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  Speaker 1: Our special Super Bowl sixty coverage live from Radio Row
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  Speaker 1: of Kirkland. Now from Radio Row, here's Chucking buck.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, live from Radio Row here in San Francisco
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  Speaker 3: for day number three.
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  Speaker 4: It is Chucking Buck in the Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. Great to
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  Speaker 3: have you with us, and we have a surprise guest
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  Speaker 3: right off the top of the show. We listen to
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  Speaker 3: him on the drive into work every day, trying to
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  Speaker 3: survive his co hosts every single morning. Today we got
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  Speaker 3: to put eyeballs on him and he now joins us
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  Speaker 3: here at our set. Brady Quinn, former Notre Dame quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: former Seawk quarterback, joining us right here on the program.
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  Speaker 4: How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 5: Do it?
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  Speaker 6: Chuck Buck to be with you guys. Obviously excited for
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  Speaker 6: the Seahawks, excited for the fans. I mean this is
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  Speaker 6: uh probably to me, like, I don't know that Mike
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  Speaker 6: McDonald has gotten enough credit for the job that he's
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  Speaker 6: done and turned this team into it what should be
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  Speaker 6: a super.
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  Speaker 2: Bowl winning team after this game's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think nationally he's gotten some but like not as much
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  Speaker 6: as I feel like the offensive minded head coaches get.
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  Speaker 6: I think they tend to get a little bit more praise,
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more of the credit, if you will.
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  Speaker 6: I think when they they are able to do something
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  Speaker 6: like what he's done in the past couple.
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  Speaker 5: Of years, we love him.
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  Speaker 4: I know, yeah, he's been amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And then Schneider has hit his groove with a change
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  Speaker 3: from Pete do I know, you know, to Mike and
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  Speaker 3: I know that made a lot of Seayhawk fans sad,
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  Speaker 3: but two years later it's like, man, this marriage was
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  Speaker 3: made in heaven.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think even if you look at the decision to
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  Speaker 6: move on from Gino, then you go find a way
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  Speaker 6: of bringing Sam and just how that all came together,
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  Speaker 6: or even you know, having a guy like Clint Kobiak
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  Speaker 6: in the year he's had as an offense coordinator. There's
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  Speaker 6: just there's so many things that have kind of come
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  Speaker 6: together and made this thing special and made to work.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously John's behind that, My McDonald's behind that.
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  Speaker 6: But I think at the end of the day, it's
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  Speaker 6: it gives I think a lot of other organizations hope too,
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  Speaker 6: that you can turn this thing around quicker than maybe
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  Speaker 6: you know, you tend to have thought ten years ago,
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  Speaker 6: fifteen years ago, where it's gonna be a lot you know,
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  Speaker 6: slower change, like turning a cruise ship.
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  Speaker 7: But that's not the case anymore.
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  Speaker 6: And I think with that there comes a lot of
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  Speaker 6: expectations for a lot of these new hires too in
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  Speaker 6: the NFL, to be able to turn this thing around
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  Speaker 6: quick or otherwise you're out.
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  Speaker 3: What if Signetti and McDonald done to all other brand
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  Speaker 3: new head coaches.
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  Speaker 2: It's I think it's that.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's the money too, right, Like, there's a
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  Speaker 6: lot expected out of these guys because we know how
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  Speaker 6: much they're getting paid or compensated, at least we think,
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  Speaker 6: and with that comes, you know, I guess, more pressure
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  Speaker 6: to be able to make sure they are the right guy,
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  Speaker 6: so you're not paying them that much money for longer
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  Speaker 6: than they should be. If they're proving to you in
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  Speaker 6: year one or R two to not.
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  Speaker 7: Be the guy.
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  Speaker 8: What's more impressive for a guy like you's been around
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  Speaker 8: the game and now covering the game as long as
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  Speaker 8: you have. I mean, Mike McDonald would be the first
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  Speaker 8: winning Super Bowl coach that is a defensive play caller.
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  Speaker 8: That's kind of crazy. That's a crazy stat to me.
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  Speaker 8: Or or is it the John Schneider being the first
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  Speaker 8: GM to go lead two teams with completely different coaching
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  Speaker 8: staffs and rosters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're both incredibly impressive.
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  Speaker 6: I think that'stat is wild, right, Like there has been
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  Speaker 6: a defensive minded play you know, head coach play calling
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  Speaker 6: the actual defense. I'll throw on a third one. I'm
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  Speaker 6: trying to think of other quarterbacks who have kind of
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  Speaker 6: had the journey that Sam donald has had, right, and
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  Speaker 6: if he can win it, and the fact that he
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  Speaker 6: would be the first SC quarterback to start and win
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  Speaker 6: what like their story tradition of quarterbacks and the success
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  Speaker 6: of that program, that's kind of wild to think they
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  Speaker 6: haven't had one.
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  Speaker 7: Start in a super Bowl. But going from where he
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  Speaker 7: was drafted.
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  Speaker 4: I like, how you took your little shot there aft.
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  Speaker 2: To where oh sorry, wasn't paying attention?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, we.
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  Speaker 6: Haven't play anymore, so that's how it works. But the
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  Speaker 6: journey that he's been on to get to this point
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  Speaker 6: where he's the guy and he's leading the team to win,
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  Speaker 6: you know, as a super Bowl, and if he's able
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  Speaker 6: to do.
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  Speaker 2: It, it just changes the narrative.
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  Speaker 6: I think about around so many other quarterbacks who are
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  Speaker 6: in his position that very similar to coaches, like we
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  Speaker 6: move on from so fast because we think that's not
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  Speaker 6: it and maybe they need a little more time, or
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  Speaker 6: maybe it's just not the right environment or the situation circumstance.
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  Speaker 6: Not a lot of guys are able to come back
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  Speaker 6: from that. I mean that was something where like once
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  Speaker 6: I got traded from Cleveland to Denver, You're trying to
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  Speaker 6: whatever stench comes along with you that first impression, you're
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  Speaker 6: trying to wear it off and you're trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Get rid of it. It's incredibly hard.
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  Speaker 6: Now we're seeing like Baker Mayfield's had some success, right,
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  Speaker 6: especially guys in similar draft classes, but not to the
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  Speaker 6: success of what Sam Darnold has done. And I think that,
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  Speaker 6: to me is the biggest storyline is the narrative around him.
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  Speaker 6: The narrati other quarterbacks like him completely changes, I think
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  Speaker 6: with how other teams perceive those guys in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to explore that with you because we've
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  Speaker 3: been handing out scarlet d's like a scarlet letter Nathaniel
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  Speaker 3: Hawthorne to all of the not just the doubters, because
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  Speaker 3: you understand why people might have doubted Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 4: We doubted, we weren't sure sure.
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  Speaker 3: But after two back to back seasons like he's had
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  Speaker 3: and now seventeen games plus playoffs and playing at a
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  Speaker 3: high level here, I just don't think you should still doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And I think you're the perfect person to ask this
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  Speaker 3: question too, I mean, because you're right. I mean, so
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  Speaker 3: often a quarterback gets buried and they never give that
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  Speaker 3: opportunity again. When you watch Sam, is it hard for
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  Speaker 3: you not to channel it through yourself, like your own
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  Speaker 3: personal voyage into the NFL where you didn't have as
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  Speaker 3: much success as you had as a college quarterback, and
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  Speaker 3: and kind of, I don't know, root for Sam Darnald
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  Speaker 3: or kind of wish that you would have been given
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  Speaker 3: that same opportunity at some point to show what you
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  Speaker 3: can do, especially when I was with Seattle to the super.
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  Speaker 7: Bowl that year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and like beon that roster, you're.
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  Speaker 6: Going, oh my gosh, like there's gonna be guys who
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  Speaker 6: don't make this team that are gonna be making other
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  Speaker 6: teams and startles on other teams, like, that's how good
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  Speaker 6: that twenty thirteen season Seattle Seahawks team was, which is super,
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  Speaker 6: super deep and talented. But I think you root form
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  Speaker 6: because you love a comeback. Everyone loves a comeback, and
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  Speaker 6: that's what this feels like a bit. And I know
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  Speaker 6: he had success in Minnesota, but that's that felt different
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  Speaker 6: because of how it ended. And now I think, you
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  Speaker 6: look at what he's done in Seattle, it has alleviated
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  Speaker 6: some of those concerns.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know the.
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  Speaker 7: Best way of making a comparison.
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  Speaker 6: This is just the first thing that popped in my
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  Speaker 6: head because our family we lost a couple of dogs
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  Speaker 6: in the past few years, but we're looking at getting
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  Speaker 6: another dog. And you know, dogs are like the greatest
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  Speaker 6: things in the world, right, but there's gonna be that
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  Speaker 6: times too where they're like, you remember those moments where
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  Speaker 6: they kind of nipped you or they did something they
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  Speaker 6: shouldn't have done.
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  Speaker 7: And so those games sold.
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  Speaker 5: To kids as example out that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what dogs will maybe here at San
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  Speaker 6: Francisco with their say that's a first, But I'm making
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  Speaker 6: a comparison to just his level of play and that
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  Speaker 6: that that's in him somewhere, Like you've seen some of
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  Speaker 6: those bad games where it's happened.
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  Speaker 7: You just hope it's not the super Bowl and you
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  Speaker 7: just don't.
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  Speaker 6: You hope that he's gotten kind of grown past that
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  Speaker 6: and it's calloused over some of those performances.
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  Speaker 7: But the reality is it's it's it's still there somewhere.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know that I'm like if he if
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  Speaker 6: he played poorly, I don't know that I'd sit there
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  Speaker 6: and say like, ah, this is like who he is,
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  Speaker 6: because he's overcome that too. But I do think there's
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  Speaker 6: that there, there's a low floor at times with his
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  Speaker 6: level of play, will even be put in that position,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, I think if you're Mike
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  Speaker 6: Vrabel and the Patriots, you stop Kenneth Walker on the
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  Speaker 6: run game, you say, we're not gonna let Jackson Smith
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  Speaker 6: and Jig Blood beat us on third down on the
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  Speaker 6: red zone, make everyone else beat us, and make Sam
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  Speaker 6: Darnald beat us. So that would be my defensive game
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  Speaker 6: plan against him. But I root for Sam because one,
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  Speaker 6: he's a great dude, you know, just from following him
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  Speaker 6: to college. And I think people probably don't understand it's
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  Speaker 6: the last time that school won a conference championship, right.
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  Speaker 9: That's the second time you've done well.
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  Speaker 6: But I also think like people don't realize how much
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  Speaker 6: he They like he's covered up for them and like
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  Speaker 6: how much he overcame for them. And one of the
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  Speaker 6: knocks of him coming out in the league was like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: well he's he forces things, so he turns the football
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  Speaker 6: over too much, kind of had to, and I think
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  Speaker 6: in the Jets he was thrust in that position so
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  Speaker 6: it didn't work out. Whereas now he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 6: play that way, and I think he's matured and progressed
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  Speaker 6: to the point where he could take care of the football,
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  Speaker 6: let the game come to him, and he'll be able
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  Speaker 6: to be the player.
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  Speaker 7: I think we've always thought.
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  Speaker 5: He was Brady.
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  Speaker 8: You've you kind of mentioned, you know, could be or
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  Speaker 8: should be, insinuating that they're the favorites, and understandably so.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, if if you're in that locker room, if
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  Speaker 8: you're getting ready to get these boys ready to rock
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  Speaker 8: and roll, I mean, is it just simply we're just
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  Speaker 8: just go out and do what we do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, just just don't shoot yourselves in the foot.
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  Speaker 8: Or is there still I mean, I kind of feel
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  Speaker 8: like there's some people maybe overlooking New England because they
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  Speaker 8: had an easier schedule.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, everyone's saying that until they get in the playoffs
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  Speaker 6: and then they've had obviously a much more tougher stretch
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  Speaker 6: of playing tough defenses.
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  Speaker 7: And I've been able to overcome that. And look, you
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  Speaker 7: can point to.
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  Speaker 6: The quarterback play, Stroud struggle, Jeristidom's a backup, the weather.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of different narratives that I think you
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  Speaker 6: could kind of points to to support whatever argument you want.
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  Speaker 2: I think for me, what's gonna be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 6: And some of the breakdown that's starting to become more
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  Speaker 6: to light is like the variation of coverages that you
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  Speaker 6: know you want to present to Drake May. He struggled
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  Speaker 6: working against the quarter quarter half coverage in the way
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  Speaker 6: different teams have mixed it in, and you know, well,
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  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald look at that and say, this isn't something
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  Speaker 6: that we necessarily do a ton of, but maybe we're
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  Speaker 6: gonna implement more of it in this game because it's
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  Speaker 6: been effective.
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  Speaker 7: He's really struggled versus it for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe it's just taking you away certain players where you're
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  Speaker 6: playing cloud coverage to that side or however they go
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  Speaker 6: about doing it. But I I, you know, I look
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  Speaker 6: at it and just say, this is this is a
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  Speaker 6: game where this defense to me is as good as
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  Speaker 6: there is in the NFL. And it's gonna come down
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  Speaker 6: to if New England, because I do think Seattle's got
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  Speaker 6: the you know, they're the better team. If New England
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  Speaker 6: could put pressure on certain things like Treek Wollam. All right,
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  Speaker 6: we saw it was a bad movement in the NFC
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  Speaker 6: Championship game and a bad series of plays. Well, how
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  Speaker 6: would I attack him. I'm Josh McDaniels. If he's off,
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  Speaker 6: I'm throwing everything in front of him and then I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna get him to some point to bait into a
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  Speaker 6: double move or a few double moves, and that's where
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get him. So that's that's how i'd play.
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  Speaker 6: And I you know, I I would target him more
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  Speaker 6: than anyone else. You know, I'd get the smaller shift
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  Speaker 6: your guys on those longer like the lengthy, long legged guys,
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  Speaker 6: because they don't like covering them if they can't get
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  Speaker 6: hands on them. That's how I'd play it. And again,
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  Speaker 6: you you know, have to do different things to involve
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  Speaker 6: Drake Man the running game force. Mike McDonell Mic macdonald'
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  Speaker 6: think about him too. Uh, it is the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 6: so I think there's little things that wing we can do.
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  Speaker 6: But there's no doubt Seattle's got the advantage.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, give me your analysis of Drake May and the
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  Speaker 3: way he's playing right now, because obviously the last three
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  Speaker 3: games he hasn't exactly stuffed the stat sheet, and yet
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  Speaker 3: he's played in a blizzard and an ice storm and
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  Speaker 3: and frigid weather and everything else. So there's a there's
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  Speaker 3: sort of a belief that he's not playing well. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm as somebody that you know, played a lot of
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  Speaker 3: your games in the North, how how much that has
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  Speaker 3: weather been affecting him.
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  Speaker 6: It definitely affected him off the second half the FC
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  Speaker 6: Championship game. I mean, no one's gonna, you know, look
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  Speaker 6: at that and say it wasn't the case. He's doing
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  Speaker 6: what he needs to do to win, you know, and
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  Speaker 6: it's his first time going through this too, right, It's
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  Speaker 6: not like we've you know, had a bunch of postseason
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  Speaker 6: experience for Drake Bay. So every game I think there's
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  Speaker 6: a bit of learning too that comes along with it,
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  Speaker 6: and at the end of the day, he's obviously doing
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  Speaker 6: much enough by the end of the game to help
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  Speaker 6: his team win, which is the ultimate goal.
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  Speaker 7: So you know, is he playing some of his best football?
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  Speaker 6: No, but he's had a rough stretch two of defenses
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  Speaker 6: he's had to face along with that weather, and it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't get any.
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  Speaker 7: Easier in this matchup.
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  Speaker 6: So look, I think he again knowing Josh McDaniels, having
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  Speaker 6: played for Josh, Josh does an unbelievable job of giving
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  Speaker 6: him what's called coverage indicators. So before every snap, he's
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  Speaker 6: gonna have a really good idea of what Seattle's doing,
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  Speaker 6: whether it's man or zone. If it is zoned, like
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  Speaker 6: where the weak spots are, or what matchup they're trying
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  Speaker 6: to work if it's a man and man, which matchup
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  Speaker 6: they're working. In that regard, Josh is just an incredible
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  Speaker 6: offensive mine and play caller, and I don't think other
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  Speaker 6: than execution and the speed of things and just not
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  Speaker 6: allowing the outside noise to get to him, I don't
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  Speaker 6: think he's gonna struggle unless he presses. But I think
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  Speaker 6: this is a game too. I said it before, you
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  Speaker 6: have to get Drake Drake Man involved in the run game.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he's got to use his legs because he's
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  Speaker 6: dangerous when he can do it. And if you can
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  Speaker 6: force Seattle to have to deal with not only the
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  Speaker 6: run game but also him as a part of that,
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  Speaker 6: it just it changes the dynamics of the box count
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  Speaker 6: and what Seattle wants to.
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  Speaker 5: Do if they win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 8: The comparisons to this and the legion of Boom Days
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  Speaker 8: is going to run rampant. We're going to talk about it,
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure in Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: To talk about that very thing. And then we had
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  Speaker 4: a chance to put Brady Quinn on the area about that.
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  Speaker 6: I just think the biggest difference is the offense for
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  Speaker 6: Seattle was so much based on run game, offscript, you know,
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  Speaker 6: where like the play would break down. When I was
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  Speaker 6: there with him in twenty thirteen, like you know, we
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  Speaker 6: ran scrambled drills more than any other team I'd ever
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  Speaker 6: been with, and it was it was the play that
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  Speaker 6: starts after the play breaks down or once Russell would
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  Speaker 6: break the pocket. This is much more on script for me.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Sam Donald will improvise, we'll do some things,
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  Speaker 6: but this is like great game planning, great scheme, very
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  Speaker 6: very talented players. I mean, Jsn's making a case for
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  Speaker 6: him to be, you know, one of those gold jacket
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  Speaker 6: guys when it's all said and done. Is as how
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  Speaker 6: far as how good he's been. And obviously they have
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  Speaker 6: a nice compliment of receivers and pass catches around him.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't see the offense operating the same manner,
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  Speaker 6: you know, where Russell would make like one or two
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  Speaker 6: plays to win it, like I thought Sam Donald was,
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  Speaker 6: like it was like a heavyweight boxing match.
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  Speaker 7: He was going blow for blow with Matt Stafford the
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  Speaker 7: NFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 6: I think this game has more of a chance of
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  Speaker 6: being that than it is like defensive dominant, you know,
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  Speaker 6: things going haywire for le Broncos like they did in
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  Speaker 6: that in that Super Bowl victory, and the offense isn't
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  Speaker 6: really you know, doing as much. I think the offense
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  Speaker 6: got to play a pivotal role in this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I brought this topic up yesterday. You might be
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  Speaker 3: the perfect person to ask that twenty thirteen team that
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: had not won a Super Bowl that you know, you're
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: there versus this team that has not won a Super
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Bowl but kind of looks like they're getting ready to
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: go on a run. Which is the better team?
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: I would say, the only the only perspective I can
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: give you is I think that defense was better. I
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: thought the combination of the edge rushers, even some of
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: our interior players that Athletics says about linebacker, but the secondary.
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: I just I thought that defense.
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: I mean it changed the way I looked at throwing
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: deep balls. It changed the way I mean, granted my
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: crit and extent too much further after that, but but
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: you like you had to throw a flatter ball because
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: of how much ground Earl Thomas could cover in the
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: deep middle. You had to put balls in a perfect
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: spot outside, you know, over outside to the outside because
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: Richard Trump was.
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: So long and he would he would be able to
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: get a hand on it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: And those guys what they were super super sharp at
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: is when they would get beat with something, they'd never
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: get beat twice. I'll never forget doing something that, you know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: versus Richard on something. Next time I came back trying
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: to throw it, very similar player concept, he'd pick it off.
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: And like those guys, it was like you know, computer learning,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: like they were never like going to allow you to
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: get them twice on something. So I would say that's
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: the only difference that I could share is that I
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: thought that was a generational defense and it was rightfully
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: you know, titled as it should be, the Legion of Boom.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, obviously the players make the difference. But
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: I'm wondering, just from your perspective being a quarterback playing
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: against that defense, but now watching and analyzing this year's
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: this version of the Seahawks defense, is there anything in
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: particular that you see that is special or really different
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: about the way that Mike McDonald kind of schemes this
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: thing up.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: I think there's a much greater variety of what he
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: does as compared to those you know, the Pete Carroll
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: that that super winning team. I mean, they played some
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: variations of Cover three some man, there wasn't much split
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: safety's own mixed in like that was they.
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: Did what they did.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Everyone knew what they did, and they would just out execute.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: They play fast, out execute you, and it made it
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: extremely difficult because you knew what you were going up against.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: It was just like you weren't sure your guys could
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: beat their guys or you'd have enough time to be
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: able to beat their guys. So that that's what I
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: say is one of the biggest differences is there's just
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: there's a little more Bolittz concepts to worry about. There's
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: you know, time zone they'll pressure, there's times when it's not.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: It's a little bit more coverage and a greater variety
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: of how they mix that stuff in, which again it
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: makes game planning for it more difficult, But it doesn't
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: feel like it's as big of a mountain to climb.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Maybe from a personnel standpoint, I mean, Witherspoon's, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: one of the best cornerbacks in the league, so I
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: don't know if i'd pick on him much. But again,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: like I said, after seeing Trig Wallen and just the
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: body type and everything else, I just anytime you see
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: those tall, lengthy guys when they're playing off the ball,
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: that's the time to attack them because they're not allowing
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: their length and they're what they can how physical, they're
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: gonna be at the line of scrimmage to play their advantage.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: You know, it's like when they drop out one of
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: the better edge rushers, like thank god as a quarterback,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: like yeah, put that guy in coverage, Like don't do
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: you know don't give them ability to rush like you
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: pay him to do.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: You know, millions of dollars, Well, Seahawk fans go to
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: bed Sunday night happy.
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: I think so, Yeah, I think so.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: I think the matter The question is do they cover?
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: You know it says that's become part of the conversation
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: with the gambling, you know it sports nowadays, Like that
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: number is kind of a funky number, you know so,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: I keep seeing this replay of Madden twenty six saying, hey,
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: Seahawks win, but twenty three twenty so I believe that
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: would at least be a cover for New England and
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: with the under it's good.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: To do Madden always playing it safe, yeah, always trying
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: to keep it balanced.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Before we let you go, appreciate your time. I know
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: you just finished doing a radio show yourself.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I gotta ask, so, what does make you most uncomfortable
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: about your radio show? Is it when LeVar takes every
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: topic and turns it into Penn State football? Or is
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: it when Jonas takes every topic and turns it into
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: either race or sexual innuendo.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: That's a tough one to answer because I'll usually just
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: let LeVar go. Jonas it's hard to bring it back around,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: or if you have to lean into it just to
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: make sure, because then then LeVar gets involved that it
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: just it goes, it goes off the road. So I
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: don't know, I'm not sure which I feel more uncomfortable about,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: but it's it's probably Jonas.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Jonas makes everyone feel little uncomfortable.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: It makes me uncomfortable way over here, Yeah, him walking
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: around as he makes sure people feel uncomfortable. Uh, finally,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: would you like to take one more shot at USC
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: before we let you go? You squeeze too, and they're subtle.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Would you like to just just open open field? It's sad,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: it really is.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: It's sad.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: It's it's it's the equivalent of I thought ten years
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: ago when we were here in San Francisco and the
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: city was a much better place.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I did walking around the city last night and today
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, good God. So it's sad.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: It's sad the city like this. But you know, you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: se not having the rivalry and you know, checking out
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: of it is what it is. Yeah, let's let them
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: see if they can ever. Now, what excuses do they have?
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: Now they don't have to play Notre dame? You know
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: they're still in the Big Ten, but it's like, at
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: some point, can they get to a conference championship game?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Can they make a playoff? I mean, how many excuses
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: are they gonna have?
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: Now?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Can I just say? The sad part is I have
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: nothing to argue against that because I agree with all
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: It's like, at this point, but the problem that I
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: have with SC fans when they just buy and everything
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: Lincoln says, I'm like, dude, Clay Helton was every bit
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: is good, if not better, and you guys ran him
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: out of town, and it's like, so, why do you
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: keep defending this guy?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Help it makes sense.
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: I don't hear a lot of them defending him.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: It's like the athletic department does there's.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Other people is all in, well, it's because he's afraid,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: And this is what never makes sense. And also it's like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: it's odd to me that someone who made their legacy
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: off of that rivalry that doesn't want other players have
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: the same opportunity to do it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: It seems like a bit odd to not want that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: But also I think there's a concern that, like, well,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: if I say bad things about him, will they still
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: let me in I'm like, yeah, dude, your numbers retired
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: in the stadium. I think you've got a free ticket
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: and to always get into a game, the or whatever
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: you want.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Hey man, thank you very much.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Grevy, to meet your face to face and
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: have you on the show here again, Brady Quinn joining
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: us right, Alrock, Chuck and Buck coming out next. You
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: know what, we didn't get to what's on tap, so
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I'll do that on the other side. Set up the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: rest of the show for you here on this Wednesday,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: live from Radio Row. It's a Super Bowl sixty coverage
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: right here on Chuck and Bucksports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 3: three kh.
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  Speaker 9: A r f M.
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  Speaker 4: All right, seven o'clock hour, Chuck a Buck.
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  Speaker 3: In the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: r FM, live from Radio Row in San Francisco, site
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: of Super Bowl sixty.
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: And it turns out our teams in the game. It's awesome.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson with you and now we are
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: joined at our set.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: It was our surprise, Ashley and Jessmin's surprise for Bucky Jacobson.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: We tried to keep it secret.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Nice oh and he jumped out of the cake like
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: seven minutes early before we could do it live on
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the air. But joining us at our set is one
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: of buck I don't even maybe your favorite Bronco I
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, yeah, well him and John Elway obviously trilled.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: He walks away, he rucks around. He's decent. Yeah, he
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: was decent, was that guy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: But he wasn't the guy that I learned the mile
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: highs loot from. I know that that's Baby Davis. This
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: weather that's here at our set. Yeah's listen.
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: It feels good to be back at you know, every
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: time I come to Radio Row every year, it's the
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: memories just come flooding in, right because playing in two
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: Super Bowls and and then just coming out here seeing
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: some of the my former teammates, certain guys I played against.
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: Just being back in this Super Bowl vibe is uh,
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: it's cool, man. I enjoy both sides. I prefer to
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: be in a hotel preparing for a game. But you
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: know this is not too bad. Yeah, not too bad.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I prefer you being in the hotel preparing for a game.
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: Because very well, oh sorry, I mean la Yeah, probably
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: my first favorite player, but he couldn't get over the
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: hump until he could just hand the ball off to you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: We all know how that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: I think that speaks to how how we were really
• 22:55
  Speaker 11: good as a team, and we we really played off
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: each other's strengths each other weaknesses, and we had a
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: lot of unselfish players. John I mean, I give him
• 23:04
  Speaker 11: a lot of credit. He he came in, or when
• 23:07
  Speaker 11: I came in. He was a quarterback that didn't have
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: to be the main piece, and so he knew that, Hey,
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: in order to get this thing over the hump, John
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: had a but his role was significant. It wasn't like
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: he was just handing the ball off as most people think.
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: I'm like, no, you have to understand. It gave our
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: our team a right and a left hook. Right we
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: had we can we can fight with both with both arms.
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: And so in the past John would go into a
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: game or a super Bowl and it was you was
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: playing with one arm behind his back because he couldn't
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: they couldn't run the football.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: So that's that's what it did.
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: And then we had guys like Shannon Sharp, who was
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: you know, all world tight end, the glue guy, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: locker room guy, the comedian. I mean he was he
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: was instrumental and keeping our team, you know, together, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: we had a man. We had guys like Howard Griffith,
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: who was my full back. Howard was a former running
• 23:59
  Speaker 11: back at Illinois. Man broke the I think he had
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: like eight touchdowns in Illinois, and so speaking to his unselfishness,
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: he came in and converted from a half back to
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: a full back.
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: So we and then we had a bunch of as
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: we would call each other, the misfits. You know, we
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: were a bunch of late round draft picks, guys that
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: weren't supposed supposed to be there. Ed McCaffrey, Rod Smith, uh,
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: Tom Naale in our center. We had, I mean, we
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: just had a bunch of really cool guys that just
• 24:27
  Speaker 11: wanted to win and love football.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: It's Mark Schlareth, uh smaller, smaller than him he is now.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: So when you walked up just saying I could I
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: could have I was like, man, you want me the yards?
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: I could have run behind this mass body?
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: I could have been I could let you run up
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: my back now, just so I can say, TD ran
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: up my back three thousand yards season behind that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: This is the most I've ever seen him act like
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: like a little kid right now, gettarstruck. I know you
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you come across a lot of little kids and you
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: sign their autographs. Did you ever come across one six
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: foot four three twenty Yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: You'd be surprised.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It's cool.
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: You know it's cool, man. I love it. I think
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: we all have that person that, yeah that if we met,
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: we would act like a little kid. I know, this
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: is yours.
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: I met him. It was uh, it was it was
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: Denzel Washington. Oh yeah, yeah, where I was like, oh, like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: I didn't even know how to act when I met.
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: The crazy thing about it was but the crazy thing
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: about that was that Denzel had summoned me. So we
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: were ours at a Lakers game and you know, I
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: don't want to name drop here, but Magic was hosting
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: me at a Lakers game, and so then Magic brought me,
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: brought me over to meet Denzel because Denzel wanted to
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: meet me, and so I was that was pretty That
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: was pretty cool. You know, when you start seeing people
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: that you admire and they want to meet you, that's
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: when you say, okay, all right, I've made it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Michael Jordan once told me, he said, friend, don't ever
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: name drop.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, really.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Told you that you got yeah, you know, that's what
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: best friends to do.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I tried. I thought it was Paul McCartney that
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: taught you that. Okay, yeah, that's good.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: I try not the name sometimes, you know, you've got
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: to be able to put some context to the to
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: the store.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: To the idea of being summoned by a hero or
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: a guy that you you admired as much as Denzel
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: I probably as I age.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I am going to.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: Mold this story into you walking around the corner probably
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: looking to find me. Yes, absolutely, because you knew, you
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: know that there was a you know, young young man
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: that just idolized you the way that I did. But yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: I'll make it up. I'll make the story.
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: Well, the story needs to be that I was a
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: big fan of yours, okay, and so I was searching.
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: But before this, I said, listen, if this is not
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: the first stop, then we are not doing this. We're
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: not doing to I need a recording of this straight up.
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: That's that's exactly how I came. I was like, listen, man,
• 27:00
  Speaker 11: they said, yeah, we have to do all these you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: radio road due tours. I'm like, yeah, I've done that before,
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: I said, but it's buck ain't Worth Buck.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have all nine of his Major League homers
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: on watch him every night.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Drell Davis is with us here, Chuck and Buck in
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the morning, former Bronco running back Hall of Famer uh
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and one of Bucky's all time favorite athletes, and we
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: surprised him here this morning with his appearance.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: What is it like, though, I mean, you know, most
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: people out.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: There, they'll have a reunion and they'll see, you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: maybe the girl they had the crush on ten years
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: later and and still have some some sort of connection
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: there that they can't ever let go. What is it
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: like to come back to the Super Bowl and see
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: like a John Elway or a Shannon Sharp or some
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: of your teammates. What happens to you? Like the memories
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: come flooding back. What is that experience like, because that's
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: something most people can't relate to.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: Well, fortunately for us, we we get together or we've
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: like about a week ago, actually it was two weeks
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: ago when the Broncos played. You know, I had a
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: chance to sit down, you know, I said, we went
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: to dinner. So it was like Rod Smith, Ray Krockett,
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: you know, Dwayne Car as well. So a lot of
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: my buddies we just went out and we just rehashed
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: the good days. And we had some younger players who
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: had played for the Broncos years later, and we just
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: talked about our team and how we used to do
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: things and how much fun we used to have. And
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: so it was interesting for them to listen to sort
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: of how we set the culture for what the what
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: the Broncos are today. But the story's never getting old,
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: and I love it because I forget most of the
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: stuff that's happened until somebody brings it up and I'm.
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: Like, damn, I forgot all about that. I forgot about that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: But coming here, yes, I was.
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: I had to asked a gentleman because he had went
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: to three Super Bowls and he won two, And I said,
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: is it better to have went to three and one
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: two or go to two and win two?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Mm?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Well, our colleague is Mike Holngren.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you beat him? Yeah one super Bowl? Yeah,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: sorry Mike. Yeah, I think he would have taken Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: No, but that but that wasn't And so I thought
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: about that. I was like, man, think about it. I
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: I am.
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: I just I don't ever want to have that feeling.
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: I don't ever want to know what it feels like
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: to lose, to lose one. So I'd much rather go
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: to to and win to than to take a you know.
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: And but the guy who had went to three, his
• 29:30
  Speaker 11: whole thing was, well, you know, he he had a
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: chance to experience that, and you know, he still would
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: take a Super Bowl and lose one. I'm like, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: just don't know. I don't know if I believe that. Like,
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: I'm just I much rather not. You know, I don't
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: even want to go. Yeah, yeah, if you're gonna lose it, Like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: why even go?
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: What are you doing?
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Bigger pain? Sure?
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: I mean maybe if you had lost your first one,
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: it would make the winning of the second one.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Kind of did we? We kind of did?
• 30:00
  Speaker 11: We lost to Jacksonville in the divisional round in ninety six,
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: which propelled us for ninety seven ninety eight run in
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: my opinion, because it gave us that feeling.
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: Sucked. Man.
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: I hated losing and we were the favorites, we were
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: the number one seed. We lost to Jacksonville, and I
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: just remember going into the offseason and just feeling like, man,
• 30:22
  Speaker 11: I don't ever ever I'm gonna do everything in my
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: power to never feel out a game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: And that wasn't and it wasn't just me. It was
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: a collective feeling.
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: And so anytime we would practice during the week or
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: something would happen and guys are dropping balls or practice
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: just looks, you know, sluggish, we stopped practice and we
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: remind each other about that game, and so then all right,
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: let's go get it right. Yeah, And so that took
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: over as the motivation for how we set our standard.
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: And so I don't know, I don't know if we lose,
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: if we don't lose that game, I don't know if
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: we have the same results in ninety seven ninety eight.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be honest with you, it makes sense. I mean,
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: I'm a big mentality guy. Havn't been playing baseball the
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: way I was coached by my college coach. It was
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: all about what goes on between the years put you
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: in a position to be successful on the field. And so,
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, I never thought that I would have the
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: opportunity to ask you what between the years? With those
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: three years, really it was three years that you were
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: ramping up as the best running back in the game,
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: one of the best to ever do it during that stretch.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: What was it like when you were standing in the
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: backfield and you knew they were calling your number and
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: you were I mean, you're you seem very humble, but
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: I know on on the plane surface, you can't. You're
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: not humble. You're thinking about them. These these guys don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: got a chance of bringing me down. What was the
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: feeling like without I mean, I know you're not gonna
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: want to be cocky, but what what did it feel
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: like when you were on top?
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: No, that's that's how I felt, I don't you know.
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: For me, I've always felt that I was the best
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: running back and it didn't matter what anybody else thought,
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: because I wasn't trying to you know that that wasn't
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: the motivation for you to say he the best. I
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: had to believe I was the best running back, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 11: so anytime I was back there, I had to make
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: it difficult for my coaches not to give me the ball.
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: I wanted them to give me the ball, and then
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: once they gave me the ball, I had to reward
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: them for that. That was my mentality, like make myself
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: irresistible to the coaches, and not on even being irresistible
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: but being a person that can be trusted, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: for my teammates, for the coaches, and I justn't. I mean,
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: I just love competing. I love competing, I love winning,
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: I love being really good at stuff. But yeah, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: had to take on a different sort of I guess
• 32:39
  Speaker 11: you can call them, you know, avatar. I guess nowadays, right,
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: you can. You got taken on a different persona a
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: different kind of mindset when you're back there, that no
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: one can stop me. And even even if that wasn't true,
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: it didn't matter to me because that's what I believed
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: it was true.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: All Right, Well, I know you have a busy day.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: We I think we could.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Probably talk to here for about four hours here, Yeah,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: let me run through some quick things and then let's
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: get to your thing that you you came in to
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: talk about.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: Number one.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Is it weird for you to have been teammates with
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Ed McCaffrey and his son ended up playing like you?
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah? That a great story. That's that great story.
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: And you know, of course, you know, I've known Kristen
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: for a long time, and uh, I just saw Ed
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: and Lisa the last night on the airplane. We came
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: in on the same flight. But yes, it's wow. You know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: people always ask me, did you see that? I'm like, well,
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: of course I didn't see that. I mean a little kid,
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna see that. Kristen was going to be a
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: ball on when he grew up. But then watching him
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: as he went to high school and stuff like that,
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: then he went to Stafford, you could tell that he
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: was going to be a really, really good player.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: All right, your thoughts on the Super Bowl? Now, keep
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: in mind you're on Seattle stock radio right now.
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: Well, I get it, uh, and I am routine. I'm
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: rooting for Seattle. I am I just I you know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: I don't There's nothing I can say about New England.
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: I don't want eat any AFC team winning and less
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: it's the Broncos. Okay, so get them Seahawks.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: All right, go calls, go Hawks.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: Do you think they will win? I feel like they will, Yeah,
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: I think so.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: The third thing, well, we have this thing where anytime
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Bucky meets one of his favorite athletes, he you have
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: to hold him in his arms so we can take
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: a photo.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: What you mind, would you mind like carrying him cradling?
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: That is not going to happen.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: That would be the first. I have never crawled into
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: another man's arms, but I might for you TD.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Oh uh, and then let's let's make sure we talk
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: about uh you know, it's hard for me to pronounce.
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm not familiar with this, so why don't you
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: educate us? Yes, I'm here to you know, raise it
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: wearing it's ford. They call it the other TD, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: it's not the touchdown just going football, but it's called
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: tartup discnesiak and tart of diysconesia is a chronic movement
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: disorder that's caused by taking certain prescription mental health medications,
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: uh like uh, you know, antidepressant or antipsychotic that can
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: you know, lead to uncontrollable movements and shaking of your
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: your face, your hands, your feet, and your body. Now
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: I now, while I don't have TD, I am a
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: huge uh you know, proponent and of health and so
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: I just want to be able to raise awareness with
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: people that if you're experiencing any of those symptoms, that
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: you go talk to your healthcare provider and we encourage
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: you to go to theother TD dot com for more
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: information on it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, very good, it's sleep beyond suffer from that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I think maybe I just saw that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: Uh, but one and four people who take certain prescription
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: medications may experience TD.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, all right.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Not surprised that one of my idols, actually now after
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: his playing days, is doing good stuff.
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: Trying try and listen. I'm just you're doing I'm just
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: trying to I'm just trying to above the dirt.
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: At fifty three years old, I've been actually real quick. Man.
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: I picked up snowboarding, so that's yeah. At fifty three,
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: my kids are getting older. I have a fourteen actually
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: fifteen now fifteen, thirteen, and eleven year old, so they're
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: getting really active in all these sports. And so I've
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: always said I don't want to be the dad just watching,
• 36:20
  Speaker 11: and so I'm getting involved.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to stay in shape, and well, let's
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: put it this way, it's working. You're fifty three, I'm
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: fifty four. You look twenty eight years younger than me,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: and you took up snowboarding and I take up snow coning. There,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: so yeah, that's about my the length of my athleticism. Well,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: thank you for stopping by. It was a great surprise.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: We kept it from them all week long. I mean
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I just put on our show sheet guest at seven
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: o'clock trying to keep on going.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: But it was great to meet you.
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: And I know he's over the moon. I don't think
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: I've ever seen him act like this.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: You haven't ever seen me act like that. But you
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: gentlemen out of all right, good luck, good.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Luck, all right, thank you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Terrell Davis joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: in the morning as we continue here live from a
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: radio row. Super Bowl sixty. A man that played in
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: two of them, one two of them, never lost a
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: single one of them. Terrell Davis joining us right here
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: at our set, and so I guess we can do
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: headlines here. As the photo Ashley is going down, Bucky's
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: crawling into his arms as we speak.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: He did. That's not true.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: There's no I would have I'm not talking about like
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you're hanging on him like a koala.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: I just meant like he would cradle you. Okay, you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: so he's not going to do that. And you put
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: your arm over his okay, you back and back. Yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: there's cute if you you mentioned it, and it made
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: me uncomfortable at first. Now if he would have said, yes,
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: let's do it. I would have done I would have
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: done it in a heartbeat. Yeah, and we got a
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: photo of it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I really just photoshop it. I mean, let's we don't
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: have to make it happen. We don't have to make
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you feel uncomfortable, him feel uncomfortable. But if we could
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: get you just lying across the you know, the photo
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: shop it to his arm, him posed with his arms out,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: and then photo in there.
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: I suppose it on AI. I guarante there's a lot
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: of people. Yes, I'm sure someone will. It'll be happening
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: as we speak. Yes, so you can do it with AI.
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: I prefer the both of us standing right there, put
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: our arms around each other.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: And I just got a born picture with one of
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: my idols. Thank you very much, Ashley Chuck adjustment. Thank you.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: That was he came around the corner.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: I don't really remember what we were talking about during
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: the segment, and I don't care and I don't remember
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: what we were talking about.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I was just like, TD, can we get this segment over?
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: I want to go say hi to this guy.
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: Leave.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Then he found out he was coming on your shew.
• 38:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I will go on one in the.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Morning last night, and all of a sudden, I was like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: what if Bucky has met him before and just never
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: told us and he doesn't care, And then it's not
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a surprise.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: No, And then I couldn't you have known?
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll name drop like that. I mean, I'm not
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: gonna name drop you know, Airic Jordan people like that.
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: Michael wouldn't want you to, Yeah, Michael, Yeah, yeah, Well
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: that's good, but I will. I will drop the fact
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: that I just hung out, talked to, shook hands with,
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: got a picture with.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be hanging.
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: I will get that picture and it'll be hanging at
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: my house.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: That's great stuff, great stuff, and we appreciate him stopping by.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: You never know what's gonna happen on radio roads. That's right,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: the fun of it all. Let me get to your
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: headlines here. They are brought to you by Frost Brewed
• 39:39
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• 39:42
  Speaker 3: only one we're really focused on, even though.
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: There are a lot of other monstrous stories.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Today Seahawks Patriots Sunday at three thirty Chess Serrat looks
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: like the Special Team's demon is gonna be activated. He's
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: healthy enough to go for Super Bowl sixty, so he
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: should be in uniformal. Talk more about that with Greg
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Bell coming out today at nine o'clock. We booted Greg
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: out of the seven o'clock segment for Terrell.
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: Davis here today.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: So if Craig's angry, I told him, get over it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he knows, he knows.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I love you, Greg. You ain't TD.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: The Olympics start today, that's right today, Like in a
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: couple of hours, curling. Olympic curling is going to be
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: taking place. The opening ceremonies aren't until Friday, but the
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Winter Olympics are going to get under way today, the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: actual events. We are six days away from pitchers and
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: catchers reporting to spring training, eight days away from the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Mariners pitchers and catchers.
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: Reporting to spring training.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: We don't need nearly as much.
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: Practice as everybody else this year.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: No, we don't need those two days.
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: Fine.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: NBA trading deadline is tomorrow at noon.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Four monster trades made yesterday, including James Harden to Cleveland
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: for young Darius Garland who can't stay healthy. You Dubs
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: in action on the hardwood later this evening against the
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Iowa Hawkeyes and the Kraken lost it again to Anaheim
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: four to two the final score. They've been kind of
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: hot lately, but they can't beat Anaheim for some reason,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: and it happened again last night. All right, coming up
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: next on the radio program, This is also a surprise.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: If Jackson Feltz was here, I think he'd have the
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: same reaction to the reaction Bucky had to Terrell Davis. Unfortunately,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: we're just gonna have to imagine that cherub surprised look
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: on Jackson's face when our next guest joins us on
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: the other side of Seattle Legend Sports Radio ninety three
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: point three KJRFM told you Humpday things to tend to
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: ramp up in life a much less super Bowl week.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And so it's Chuck Powell, former Mariner, Bucky Jacobson, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan with you. Bucky and I live from Radio
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Row in San Francisco as we count down the second
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: still Super Bowl sixty and joining us now on the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: radio program, Sea Hawks safety Tye Okada is our guest
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: here on the radio show.
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: Good morning to I, Good morning, appreciate you guys having
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: me on.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Well, thanks for joining us. Not like you got anything
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: to do. You're not having a busy week or anything.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Are you.
• 42:12
  Speaker 12: We're just getting wrong here?
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: No, I appreciate it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: How hard is it with all of this hype and hoopla?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I mean as coach keeping you guys grounded and making
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: sure that you're sticking to some sort of normal regiment
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to get you ready for Sunday.
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no doubt.
• 42:28
  Speaker 10: He's got a great setup for us here at the hotel,
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: trying to make it as normal as possible. I know
• 42:33
  Speaker 10: things are a little bit different, but just trying to
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: keep the same routine and it's been going well so
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: far to start the week off. So just looking forward to,
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: you know, as we progress throughout this week and get
• 42:41
  Speaker 10: into the game.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Ty, how happy are you with the way in which
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: this season has panned out?
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: I mean maybe weren't expected to be as big of
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: an influence and contributor as you were, but when you've
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: got the opportunity you've taken and ran with, how excited
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: are you about the way things are looking right now?
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: And one more game to top this off with a
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: super Bowl ring hopefully.
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt, just overall with the whole team's success
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: and then you know, just being able to play my
• 43:08
  Speaker 10: part and do my role whatever is asked of me.
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: Just being able to kind of be given opportunities and
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: knock them out of the park when I can, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: it's it's just been a blessing.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: It's been rather fascinating to watch you evolve as a player.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: You know, it just seemed like you got better every
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: single week for this football team. And so what do
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: you chalk that up to just the experience or does
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: it take a little while to understand Mike McDonald's complex defense.
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a culmination of a lot of
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: different things. I think, you know, kind of the whole
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: mentality of work while you wait, and then just gaining
• 43:46
  Speaker 10: on experience weekend and week out, and then ultimately just
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: continuing to build the trust of my teammates and the
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: coaching staff. All of that, you know, coming together has
• 43:56
  Speaker 10: really just helped tremendously in terms of my progression as
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: a player and as a person.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: What's the feel right now over there?
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, you guys are probably getting done with or
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: heading down the backstretch of kind of your media obligations
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: like this because it's a different week, super Bowl week obviously,
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: and getting ready to kind of really dial it in.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: But what's the feel?
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: Is it a kind of a calmb before the storm
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: or you know, I envision like all of you guys
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: like stalking prey like a cat sneaking up on its prey.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: What's the feeling over there?
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: For us, And we've been preaching this all year and
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: it's no different coming into this week where it's just
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: like this loose and focus mentality that we have. We
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: have such a tight knit group and you know, we
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: we have so much fun coming to work and seeing
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: each other, and so just kind of this loose and
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: focus mentality throughout the week.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Who's the most focused of your teammates and who is
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: the loosest. Who's the guy that you have the most difficulty,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: you know, stopping from horsing around?
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think we have necessarily a problem with
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: with any of that. I would say the most focused
• 45:04
  Speaker 10: is I'd have to give that one to Cooper Cup.
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: That guy is dialed in day in and day out.
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: And then I would say just a guy who brings
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: the most energy, but very focused and detail oriented as
• 45:15
  Speaker 10: well as spoon like. He's just he brings such a
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: tremendous amount of energy. I always say it's it's infectious.
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: You know, he brings energy and everybody throughout the team
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: and it's awesome. But he's also very dialed in. So
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: those two guys are a great example of you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: I've had to approach work in the day out.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I read between the lines. Sam Donald won't just stop
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you know, uh, horse playing around, you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: popping towels.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Putting undergarments in the breezer.
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: Right, he's always dialed in.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Tylecota is our guest right here on Chuck and Buck
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: in the morning. So you know, you brought up Cooper
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Kupp and I'm sitting here and I'm I'm reading over
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: your resume.
• 45:59
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I do wonder because I know Cooper Cup I'm not
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: sure he ever thought that there was a chance as
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: a young man that he'd be playing in a Super Bowl,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: much less Super Bowl MVP.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: I mean what I mean.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I know it's a dream of anybody that plays football
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: in the backyard, but when did it start to feel
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: a reality that someday tay O Kata might actually play
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl.
• 46:26
  Speaker 10: Gosh, you know, in terms of the Super Bowl, I
• 46:30
  Speaker 10: mean coming in with this team and just seeing the
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: tight knit group that we had, and just the camaraderie
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: that we built in the culture that coach Mike has
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: has built here, I felt like we definitely had something special.
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: I definitely think that it was more of a process
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: over results based approach for us, So it wasn't necessarily like, hey,
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: this is what we're looking at every single day. It's
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: more like, hey, these are things that we gotta do.
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: These are things that we got to knock out on
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: a day to day basis. And I think that this
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: team has done a tremendous, tremendous job of doing that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: But I would say in turn of like, just individually,
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: I always tell this story. The teammate of mine that
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: I think of that comes to mind as Rashid Chihat.
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: I had the opportunity to play against him in college
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: my junior year, his senior year, and then just to
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: see the success that he had his rookie season in
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: the league. I think for me that was very eye opening, like, Okay,
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: you know what, you know, I competed against this guy,
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: He's an amazing player, and we had some great battles
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: in college. I think, you know, I could go out
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: and do this.
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: Is there any part of you guys, maybe the we
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: just had Terrell Davis on he was talking about back
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: in his day. There's a group of them call themselves
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: the Misfits. They were the late draft picks and from
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: smaller schools some of them. Is there any is it
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: do you guys kind of gang up together, band together
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: some of you guys, you and Cooper and Rashid like that,
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: where it's just you know that you're coming from a
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: little bit more of an underdog situation.
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: No doubt.
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: We actually have a group here. We call ourselves the
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: Breakfast Club because we're typically the first in the building.
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: It's Pat, Drake and I and we just we get
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: breakfast together super early in the morning around five forty
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: five six at the facility every day and we talk shop,
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: you know, whether it's football or just life. And it's
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: fun kind of reflecting on our stories, all three undrafted
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: guys and just you know what it took to get
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: here in the work that still needs to be done,
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: but it's it's been a blasketting to go through that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: With that group.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Well, that movie was made long before you were born,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm not even sure if you've seen it. I
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: don't know maybe you just thought Breakfast Club was a
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: cute little nickname. You didn't even know it was a movie.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna risk asking it anyway. Of that group,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: are you Emilio Estevez of that group? Are you the
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Anthony Michael Hall or are you the Judd Nelson.
• 48:45
  Speaker 12: Whoever?
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: I Okay, so I think I've seen like bits and
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: pieces of it. I'm definitely not the bad boy guy.
• 48:51
  Speaker 10: Whoever the dude is that does more even heel on
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: there the job.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Anthony Michael Hall is the nerd. So which one are
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: you the jock? The nerd or the rebel rouser?
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: Oh, I'm definitely I'm definitely going with the nerd. That
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: that's more nice.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Seed Tye okada, our guest here, I gotta mention this
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: before we close out. You and I have the same birthday,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: June fourth birthday. Yeah, yeah, we gotta go celebrate.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah you me?
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, practically twins. I think you're a couple of years
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: younger young, is that right?
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: You?
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Angelina, Joe Lee uh Noah, Wiley Young and me, we're
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: all gonna go on a road trip on Yeah, I know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: me and Angelina that is where I was going, all right,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: so I mean, have the nerves kicked in? Where last question,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: where's ty Okada on the Wednesday before his first Super Bowl?
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: How are you mentally, emotionally, physically Where are you at
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 50:11
  Speaker 12: Really good?
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: I mean before I got it on the phone call,
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: was just going over some special teams zone and getting
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: breakfast and some coffee right before these meetings start up here,
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: So it's really good. Just trying to stick to my
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: process and yeah, just being very excited the opportunity to
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: get out there for our first practice on a Wednesday
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: before the Super Bowl is I'm super special, So I'm
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: also trying to recognize that and kind of soak it
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: all in at the same time.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, salo to the Breakfast Club members. For us,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I'll call Angelina and Noah and try to put together
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: plans for this year and we'll see if we can't
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: work something else. So best of luck on Sunday, and congratulations.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, what a wonderful individual, righte. It's been for
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: tye Okada this year, and obviously you're part of some
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: sort of magic carpet ride with this team, so congratulations
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: on just getting here.
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: That means a lot. Thanks so much for having me
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: on you guys, all.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Right, Tyle coott at joining us right here on Chuck
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: and Buck in the morning.
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: I can't believe you got born just to be like me.
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: That's you think he was in there and it's like
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: I could come out today, but I'm waiting till tomorrow
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: because Chuck Powell and Angeline and Joe Lee I want.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: To share a birth date with them.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, thanks time. I don't know for sure if
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: you can put in for a change of birth dates.
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: You know, you can change your name. But he might
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: be on the horn right now, I'm going to miss
• 51:37
  Speaker 8: the meeting. I need to change my bath.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: See how excited he was, How excited he was. They
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: were in the same birthday club. That's amazing.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, excited about that than the game on Sunday.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: He is all right, you.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Guys right, he wasn't even nervous until he found out
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: the lofty heights he's got to measure.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: Up to now.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. I mean you've done a lot more. Yeah,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: you've had a lot longer to do.
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Angelina as one in Oscar I mean the pressure she.
• 52:07
  Speaker 9: Feels to live up to me.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, still to this day.
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I like, yeah, they all.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I liked what I was saying by to him on
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: the phone.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, have a great day, have a great
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: rest of your week, and kick some ass on Sunday.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: He said, thanks you too. I was like, you know what,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I think, I will kick some ass on getting some.
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: Ass Ashley on on Sunday.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: By the way, Noah Wiley won Best Actor Emmy this year.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: You started that show.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we are just it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we've gumed forth people. Yeah, wonderful, wonderful group.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Wonderful group. Great to have you a board, ty all right.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Coming up next on the radio program, Matt Hasselbeck is
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: going to join us live at our set. It's number
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: eight almost at eight on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: three KJRFM.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: To our live coverage from Radio Row in San Francisco,
• 52:53
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• 52:57
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• 53:01
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• 53:09
  Speaker 13: Sam has got to this point. We were we're there
• 53:11
  Speaker 13: to help as of the aller players. But I think
• 53:15
  Speaker 13: you know Sam's story is a little bit more in
• 53:16
  Speaker 13: the lime light than all of our all of our
• 53:18
  Speaker 13: all of our stories. But that's that's made him who
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: he is today. And I think he would share the
• 53:22
  Speaker 13: same sentiment with you. I think our role in the
• 53:25
  Speaker 13: whole thing is to be supportive, you know, don't believe
• 53:28
  Speaker 13: in him. There's a lot of things that we saw
• 53:30
  Speaker 13: in Sam that that we loved, and he's lived up
• 53:34
  Speaker 13: to those things. And then some.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Oh chuckingbock. Oh, there's a lot going on today.
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: This is I mean, this is radio row for you
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: here today.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've got our next guest coming on here
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: in a matter of seconds. Uh, and we're meeting him
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: for the first time face to face and he's talking
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: to Frank Alliendo.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Right before we come on the that was Frank Kelly. Yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it was John Madden. Wait, I thought that
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: was Grudin What the the first time I ever did
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: an interview that he was on. He was on, but
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: they didn't tell me that it wasn't really I think
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: they told me it was John Madden. Hey, coach Madden
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: wants to talk to you. And so I'm doing this interview.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I'm at Northwest University in Kirkland, Washington. I'm on the
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: phone in the hallway. My teammates are kind of, you know,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: making faces and trying to get me to laugh, and
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to this interview and I think it's coach Madden,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: but it's Frank Caliendo. And the questions he's asking me,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, Coach Madden, like have you
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: been like drinking today? Like you because I know John
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Madden a little bit, and like, that's not what you
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: would normally say in person. Now you're gonna say this
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: on the radio. And they were like punking me.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: Basically, this is.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: When Ashton Kutcher and Punks was out, and I just
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: they never told me, and it's it was radio on
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: the phone. There was no like visual so I don't know.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Even when I just saw him there, I was kind
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: of like, this guy's like, you know, a man of
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: many disguises with his in person nations.
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I was there with him.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: He used he and I used to do a podcast
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: together for a little short period of time, and I
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: was there when he really started to nail the spider
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: three wide banana man.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: I was there when he was developing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I'd like to hear him do.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: You he can actually, and it's not very flattering.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's Chuck buck Ashley with you and joining us
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: number eight at eight ish. It's Matt Hasselbeck joining us
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: right here on radio row. Great to see you eight ish,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Ching Chang. That's like, you know fine, you know, like
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: they get your money out like that's it. Like whenever
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: anyone would come in late to a team meeting, everyone
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: would like make the money sign. They go like get
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: your get your coins out like you owe, you owe money,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: you're late.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: So I'm Tom Coughlin was our program director. We'd get fined.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin was my coach my freshman year at BC.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: There you go, wait a minute, what we did?
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: We jump offut from it?
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Yep, we're back.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, just got ten seconds in a minor heart attack
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: But all right, yeah, well.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Well I actually started panicking, Matt.
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: That means we all panic at that stair.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Pressure player. Pressure player, Actually a good job. Way to
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: keep your eye on the prize.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Do you know that freak up there on the stage, Gronkowski?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I think McKay Adams.
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: I do know Gronk.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: He's the best, you know, he played for like the
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: evil Empire and the Patriots and the heyday when everyone
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to hate him. But I just got to say, like,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: when you study film as an NFL football player, the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: way they tell you to do it is nameless faces.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: So as an example, we're watching the Patriots, We're looking
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: at number eighty seven. We're not saying Gronk, We're not
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: saying Rod. We're just saying eighty seven for the Patriots.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: And it's impossible not to respect the way that guy
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: played like he was everything you looking for. My dad
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: was a tight end, and you know he played with
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: some great tight ends in his career, from Todd Christiansen
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: with the Raiders and Russ Francis and the Patriots, and
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Steve Jordan with the Vikings and Mark you know with
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the Giants. And I think that Mark Bavarro and Rob
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Gronkowski are very similar type players.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people forget about Mark Bavarro in the all time
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: tight ends conversation because he had a shorter career.
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: He was unbelievable.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he didn't and he didn't put himself out
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: there very much. He didn't want to talk, he didn't.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: He kind of had a Marshawn Lynch quality. The old
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch when he was still playing, when he was
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: there just so he didn't get fined. Now Marshan's everywhere
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: and wants to talk to everybody.
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: What does you feel like coming back to these things
• 57:30
  Speaker 8: after having been through it but not on this side.
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: I mean, you've been on this side for a while,
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: but still just the idea of being a player and
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: now you're getting to do the side of it.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: There's incredible energy at a super Bowl, just incredible energy.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: And so there's there's almost like two events. There's the
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. There's the you know, the game that you're
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: playing in, and as a player, that's a whole other experience.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: You know, the players are down in San Jose, Santa Clara,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: They're way down there, and it's almost like an hour away.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: So and then there's the experience of everybody else that
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: goes through the week of the Super Bowl. Most of
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: the people here don't even stay for the game, they
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: go they go home. Casey Keller goal goaltender. I think
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I'm working on my peripheral vision.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Is that who that was?
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: You never know. So, uh So there's that experience and
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: and honestly, I would say my advice to to you
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: guys and anybody I would see, I would say, pace yourselves.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a long week, it's late nights, it's
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: early morning, and it's a lot of excitement because of
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: things just like that. You see these people that you
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: really respect and admire, who are at the top of
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: their profession in all different ways. It's a it's a
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: lot of fun.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: What do you go through as a quarterback? It's Wednesday
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: right now, you're playing the Super Bowl this Sunday. You
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: don't know yet, Matt Hasselbeck, that the Refts are going
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: to screw you on Sunday.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: You don't even have that in your uh, in your
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: you know mirror.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: At this stage.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: So Sam's getting ready for his first Super Bowl. Uh,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: he didn't know what's gonna happen on Wednesday. Where would
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: you advise him to be?
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: Right now? Mentally fine?
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Downtime fine, down time, Like you know, Coach Holmgren was
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: great about giving us great advice about, like for me,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: saving my voice, getting my energy level down. One thing
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I did. I checked into my hotel, I took the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: remote control on my television. Okay, I'm kind of dating
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: myself because the kind of television it was. And I
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: took it and I put it. I dropped it behind
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: the dresser. I was there for the week. I dropped
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: it behind the dresser, so I couldn't sit there and
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: just scroll through the TV the whole time. I literally,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: if I wanted to change the channel, I had to
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: get myself up out of bed and like manually change
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: the channel like I did when I was a kid.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: And it just for me, it was just like I
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: didn't waste any time sitting there, just like you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: if there's forty four channels on your TV in a
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: hotel room, just like go around like five times and
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: watch a little of this and watch a little of that.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: And the other thing they do is they show all
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the They show all the Super Bowls, you know, like
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: on the NFL network or whatever, they just show all
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowls. And so that was the channel that
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I left it on, and I just kind of looked
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: for common themes that I saw from the teams that
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: won and the quarterbacks that won, and like what were
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: some common themes. And I think the main common theme
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: for me was they didn't play not to lose. They
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: cut it loose from the get go, and that was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: that was that was a good thing for me to
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  Speaker 2: kind of decompress and also at the same time learn.
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  Speaker 8: Did you have moments of like the back and forth
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  Speaker 8: emotionally where you're like, I am I feel completely prepared
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  Speaker 8: and then other times of oh man, I need to
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  Speaker 8: I need to study more on that. Did you go
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: back and forth on that or was it one way.
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  Speaker 5: Or the other?
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  Speaker 2: Great question. No, it is two weeks to prepare, and
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  Speaker 2: by Saturday, I would even say Friday of that first week,
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  Speaker 2: I was ready to roll. In fact, the harder thing
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: was when Sunday came around. It was like Pavlov's dog,
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  Speaker 2: like my mouth was watering. I knew it was seven
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: days they rang the bell. I was ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: And so the harder thing was kind of like the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Mike Hongren advice, which was great advice, like hey, you
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: need to like calm yourself, pace yourself, like slow this,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: slow this down. And then the other thing the danger
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: for coaches because they're excited. They got two weeks to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: put in two game plans essentially, and Mike home Gren
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: was really really good at saying, Okay, if you guys
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: want to put in a new play something's got to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: come out. You know, I don't want to. You know,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: we go into a game plan with you know, call
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: it two hundred and twenty one plays that I want
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: these guys to know inside and out. We're not going
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: into a game with four hundred plays, right, you know.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: So we're sticking to our process. We're sticking to like,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna all of a sudden have a three
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  Speaker 2: hour practice because we didn't play a game on Sunday.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Our practices, if they're an hour and fifty five, they're
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be an hour fifty five. You know, all that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Try to stay normal as much as possible.
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  Speaker 3: Number eight at eight twenty, Matt hasselbeckis with us here
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: at Radio Row Chuck and Buck in the morning Sports
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  Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. Well, what is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: it about New England that maybe because a lot of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: people are starting to think maybe a seahawk runaway and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: all of this stuff because of the way the Patriots
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: have looked offensively in bad weather the last three games?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: What is it about New England that Mike McDonald shouldn't
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: be and isn't sleeping.
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  Speaker 2: On They're a good team, Like, let's just be real,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a good team. I don't think people watch them. I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: don't think people watch them this year. I know on
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the national scale. I listen to people talk about them.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Even today. I might walk over here. I'm listening to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: people I respect talk about them, and I'm like, you
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: haven't watched this team some leus know, like I'm just
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: some stat guy is telling you stats. They do the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: same thing for the Seahawks people. I mean literally, I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: might walk over here people are like, oh, the Seahawks
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: suck at running the football, they're the worst. But I'm like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: you know what, some some stat dude just gave you
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: a stat they average two point eight yo, whatever, Like
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: that's not true. These are two good football teams. And
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: the Patriots what what their kryptonite is is they they
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: have no depth at certain positions. They have no depth,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Like if one O lineman goes down there in a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: world hurt, they're not. They're not that dissimilar from what
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks were coming into the like they're just like
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: a year behind in a sense. No, they're a good
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: team and you gotta be careful and the other thing, like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I just Josh McDaniels knows that he might be over
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: matched with this defense, Like the defense of Seattle is
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: probably a good amount better than the offense for the Patriots,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: So he's gonna have to manufacture offense. Smoke in mirrors.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: He has all kinds of great trick plays in his bag.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: What are you saving them for? You've been practicing them
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: all week, like empty it, like let it go, Philly Special,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: the Hines Ward Antoine randalll double revert like this is
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the week to do it. So that's what you better
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: watch out for. You might outplay them in every way,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and you have a silly fumble here and a couple
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: penalties there, and then some New England Patriots trick plays
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: and you could be severely disappointed if you're not careful.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, the Patriots have, I mean most teams now have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 8: the two headed monster in the backfield. And yet throughout
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: the playoffs, probably because of the weather, Stevenson's been getting
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: more touches than Henderson, even though Henderson I think probably
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: brings more to the table home run hitter wise. Are
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: you expecting them to maybe, you know, go towards him
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: a little bit? Morganst this years defense?
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  Speaker 5: Is that a good call?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So let me give you the history on that Remandre
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Stevenson led the NFL and fumbles last year. It was
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: all anybody was talking about. And there's kind of a
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: saying in the NFL like once a fumbler, always a fumbler.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: It's hard to shake it. And so Mike Vrabel and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: everyone they were like just gassing him up the whole offseason. No, no, no, no,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: those fumbles weren't all on you. You got to do
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: your part. But you're our guy. You are our guy.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: And you know their their backup running back got hurt
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: and Remandre, you're our guy. Well guess what in the preseason,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: re Remandre was fumbling and like some of them like
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: maybe weren't his fault all the way, but he was
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: a fumbler. And the whole world Patriots, like the whole
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Patriots Nation was calling for Traveon Henderson, who looked amazing
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: in the preseason and he's gonna be an amazing player.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: So they got this weird thing where Travion's this amazing
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: receiver out of the backfield, Remandre is the best pass
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: protector and so, and he's also more of the first
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: second down type back. Travion's more the third Town third
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: down back. But Travion to me, is a lot like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. He can be an all day. So you know,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: some of it is a big unknown, and I think
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: it makes it a little tougher. I think you might
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: be able to get a key from them, like what
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: kind of runs it is when this back's in and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: what kind of runs with the other back? What kind
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: of screenplays? But I think the Patriots look at both
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: those guys as starters. That fumbling issue has been a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: thing though, and I promise you that Mike McDonald and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: company they're aware of it. It's going to be an
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: emphasis for them, you know, punching the ball out.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: So what is the difference then, because Sam can't live
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: down this reputation as turning the ball over either, and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: yet we in Seattle are trying to preach the word
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: it's not an issue.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: You know, he's aggressive.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: We don't want to We would rather be aggressive than
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: careful out on the football field, even if.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: It means a turnover or two.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: So Ramandre Stevenson has a fumble issue that he can't
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: live down, and that's still an issue going into the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. How should we feel about Sam and his turnound.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I think they feel pretty good about Romandre until he
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: fumbles again, and I think it was Sam. I think
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: there's great Eviace and some guys that are, you know,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: gunslinger types, cut it lose. Eli Manning won a Super Bowl.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I think maybe led the league in interceptions that same season.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, you know, he was known to throw amazing
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: touchdown passes, but he'd also throw it into a defensive
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: team meeting at times, like you know, it just it
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: just it's the mindset. He's like, yeah, it's okay, I'm
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: gonna play aggressive and over the long haul, I'm gonna
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have more success than than failure.
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  Speaker 8: When you're talking about the Patriots have to do some
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: things with smoking mirrors because they maybe are talent wise
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: a bit overmatched. I think there's a lot of people
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: that sleep on the wide receivers for the Patriots. I mean,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: who's a guy that Stephan Diggs is probably the biggest name,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: and yet I don't know for sure if he's the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: Stephan Diggs that everybody thinks necessarily, who's the guy that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks defense has to watch out for.
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  Speaker 2: It's good that you brought that up because the Patriots
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: wide receiver group in the Seahawks wide receiver group is
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: really similar. It gets a lot of hate because it's
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: kind of wide receiver by committee. Everybody shares the load,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: you know, And so with the Patriots in particular, Stefan Diggs,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right, he's the guy. There's other guys, they're slot,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: they're Julian Edelman so to speak, is Pop Douglas. They've
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: got Kayshawn Boody who's kind of there, you know. They're
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: they're young guy that they're hoping to be a number
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: one receiver someday. But the guy to me that's like,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, unsung hero is MATC Collins. He was Josh
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen's, you know, kind of one of his favorite
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: guys in Buffalo. He's amazing in the run game. He
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: makes some big, big catches. He's a monster of a dude.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: He's really big. He's tough guy. He doesn't wear shoes
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: anywhere he goes, right, it doesn't matter if he's in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: the snow. But another one, I'll give you another one
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: that hasn't really shown up yet. But if I'm the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: quarterback and he's one on one and it's a deep ball.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I'm cutting it loose. Kyle Williams, I think he played
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: at Washington State. In fact, he's he's a baller and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: in the preseason he beat out some really good players
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to make that team. And if he gets out there
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: and so, like I think with both quarterbacks, one of
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the great things is they're not afraid to spread it around.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: And Drake may especially spread it around. It's not just
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: we're trying to just get it to Stefan Diggs. It's
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: not that kind of on offense.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 9: Matt has is with us.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: He's all decked out.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: And his uh look like I looked at our blitz
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: or something. I'm like the mascot here I got like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I mean even even my undergarments. I got Seahawks. It's uh,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: you know, like I'm representing. Though. Let's go in San France.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of San fran like bartenders, waiters, like valet people,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: they'll see my Seahawks stuff and they'll be like, uh,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: go Niners. I'm like, oh really, because, like I saw
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: this tweet, in medieval times, when you would conquer a castle,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: you would fly your flag instead of theirs. And so
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: when I drive by the Niners Stadium. Now you know
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: what banner is up? I think it's a twelve banner.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: So sorry, I got right, that's right. I forget who
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: did that tweet. It was like John Boyl or somewhere
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: It was.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: It was so good though, and so true. Yeah, our
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: colors have taken over your town. Our sigil is flying
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: above your airwaves. At this point, Matt Hasselback joining us
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: here at the at the set.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: So so what what was Matt Hasselback?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 12: Uh?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 10: What?
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  Speaker 3: I know you have memories of the Super Bowl, but
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: what good things do you recall from that experience.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I think as a player, you just remember the missed opportunity,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Like you remember the bad plays more than the good plays.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's just everybody a little bit. So there
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: was some awesome stuff, awesome stuff, and like, you know,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the thing that comes to mind the most is, you know,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Jim's worn was my quarterback coach, and the night before
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: the game at our like team chapel, the families are
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: all invited there. It's usually just players and coaches, but
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: it was all the families and Jim called us up
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: as a quarterback group and he was like, you know,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: this has been an amazing journey. Winner lose, This has
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: been an amazing journey. And we're like, yeah, man, this
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: has been incredible. And he was like, hey, tomorrow, like
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: at the fifty yard line after the game, we're gonna
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: take any with you know, with the Steelers. Both teams
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: are gonna take me, and we're gonna say a prayer
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: for like just how grateful we are for the journey
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: and what this has been, win or lose. And I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, absolutely, yes, amen, brother, you know, kind
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: of that mindset, and uh and we lost, and you
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: know it, it was like this moment of like, am
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I gonna sit there and take a knee and really
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: pray with these guys like they don't want to pray,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: They're celebrating, they're looking for their kids in the stands,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: and I'm ready to go like throw up, you know,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm I'm kind of mad, you know, right, very mad,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, in that moment of like in
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: their Confeederi coming down, it was also a time for me.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there with Sean Alexander and a couple of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: other my teammates, it was like, you know what, this sucks,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Like this sucks but just remembering what Jim Zorn had
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: said basically like less than twenty four hours earlier, like
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: be grateful for this moment, and you know, be grateful
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: for all of it, even the bad. And I fully
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: expected to be back there the next year. And then
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: we had you know, we lost Steve Hutchinson and there
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: was a lot of other things that went on. But
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: that is a memory that I'll that I won't ever
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever lose that memory because it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: was an incredible journey.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, to get there is an accomplishment. Obviously,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: to win it is what you want, but you can't
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: necessarily look at that. I have one just for the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: basically the preparation as a quarterback. If you were in
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: Sam Darnold's position, you were talking about the numbers or
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: you don't think of the names. Is numbers zero? Christian Gonzalez?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: Is that a guy that you have to watch out for?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: Is there someone on that defense that you better that
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: you'd maybe not go towards a Champ Bailey or somebody
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: like that back in the day.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: It's a great it's a great call because they've got
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: two great corners. I mean, the new England Patriots spent
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: so much money on their defense. Up front, their D line.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: They got Robert Spiline their middle linebacker, who may or
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: may not play. He's wearing Steve Grogan's number fourteen. He
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: might wear a neck collar too, I don't know. But
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: they also spent money on Christian Goanzalez. They're great all
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Pro corner and then their new player is Carlton Davis,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: the third on the other side, so they feel the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Patriots feel really good about the matchups with those guys.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: I would say this though, we have as a Seahawks group,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: we have wide receivers with different body types. We got
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: the speedsters, we also got the bigger guys, you know,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: so sometimes it doesn't matter if you're a speedster. If
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: you're a Jake Bobo type as an example, you know,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: we saw what he did in the last game, you're
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I don't know, like a little bit
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: more hirky jerky, and maybe you don't run a great
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: forty time, but you have length. That's what the Patriots have,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and guys like Matt Collins versus some smaller guys. So
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: getting the right guy on the right guy is the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: matchup that I think Sam Donold's gonna try will he
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: go after Christiganzalz. Yeah, because you got JSN and even
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: last week the Denver Broncos hit a big win on
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Christian Zalz. He's a great player, but you can still
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: with the right person in the right route, these guys
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: can definitely be beat. Feeling to win, I am yeah,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm cautious to say that because not always
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the best with predictions, and you know, but and I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: would just you know, like this game, I don't think
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: it will be, but this game could turn into a blowout, right,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: it's possible. There's only one team that's capable of doing
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: that are in my mind. Yeah, So that's why I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: feel like it's the safer bet. But you know, just
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: being in Boston and understanding, like knowing that a lot
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: of those people had they had they lost in the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, they would have been like, you know,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: standing ovation, way to go, Rabes, way to go, Drake,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: you're our future, We're back, We're on the way. Like
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: they're happy. So this is house money to them. This
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: is like they feel like they've had a good season.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: That's where my fear comes in because if they want
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: to run some trick plays and like, oh man, come on, dude,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: that doesn't count on set. You know, you can't kick anymore,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: but like all the trick stuff. So I want to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: be surprised to see that. And that's what that's what
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: I worry about a little bit.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Well, we bought this football because Carell Davis was coming
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: and that's one of Bucky's favorite players growing up.
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  Speaker 7: One of we have.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna have him sign it. And then we're like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you're can have people sign on radio row.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's allowed. So that we now have
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  Speaker 3: a ball, do you want the ball? And do you
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  Speaker 3: want to score?
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  Speaker 2: I definitely want to score, you know, and they want
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  Speaker 2: the ball. And for the record, I always want the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: ball and I don't and I don't don't regret saying
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: it for a second, don't regret it at all. There's
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  Speaker 2: some things I do regret, but you know, even on
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: that play as an example too, I was telling somebody
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  Speaker 2: this the other day. We lost. That was our last
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: play wildcard. We're kind of happy to be there, to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: be honest, but like we lost in the last play
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs in O three and then we lost
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: again on the last play against the Rams. We really
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: struggled getting over the Rams. Won the division, but lost
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  Speaker 2: to them in the wild card on the last play.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Those two losses, like the crushing, crushing blow of those losses,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I believe strongly propelled us propelled me to the success
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  Speaker 2: we had in O five. It was like, enough's enough.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to do what we've always done, or
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be what we've always been. We're making changes,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: and we got rid of some people with great potential
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: and replacing them with people that were just accountable and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: dependable and and a little maybe a little more gritty
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: and blue collar. And I think for me, I changed
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  Speaker 2: a lot in what I did and how I kind
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: of played the position because of those two things. So
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: even that I'm sort of grateful for the fact that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: it happened, and everybody is, you know, and here we are,
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  Speaker 2: ye moving on TikTok maybe.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, everybody, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he knew for sure what happened.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I came over to the sidelines and he gave me this, like,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: what did you just do? Because like I kind of
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: heard it, but not really, So you put it on
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: the list of things that I did to annoy him.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize, coach my it's a long last.
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  Speaker 4: How many hasslebacks made it to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter Annabelle is here for Sports Spectrum. She also
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: has a Seahawks show on YouTube called The Seahawks Collective,
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  Speaker 2: usually on Tuesday nights. It's on YouTube that it's a
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  Speaker 2: great show, one of my favorite shows. And she also
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  Speaker 2: is the host of Foxborough Rush for Nessen that covers
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots. So this is like, I mean, it's yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's my old team gets my dad's all team. But
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  Speaker 2: this is like, this is like kind of the the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Annabelle Bowl. But she's diehard Seattle. She worked for the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks her first job out of college. And yeah, she's
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: fired up. Well enjoy heanks, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Great to meet you face to face. It's been awesome having.
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  Speaker 5: You on and we'll do it again.
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  Speaker 2: I can get John Elway over here, if you guys
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: want him to sign your boy, that would great.
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  Speaker 9: You know, yeah, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 3: insider from the News Tribune, Greg Bell. Good morning, Greg,
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Bucky.
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  Speaker 12: I'm sorry I'm not more Terrell Davis. That sounded really cool.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I do love my time with UG, you know that.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 8: But I haven't ever bought war and cherished a Greg
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: Bell jersey up, not up to this point. So it
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 8: was it was different. Meeting an idol was different, But
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  Speaker 8: I still love my time with UG.
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  Speaker 12: There's an old Greg Bell rams or Buffalo Bill's jersey
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: or even notating jersey from really sing single g running
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  Speaker 12: back from the nineteen eighties. Yeah, the Terrell Davis. I
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: was in on that secret last night and I was
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: pretty excited. And then I thought, you should have brought
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: a football or a sharpee. I know you're not supposed
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 12: to get agress in the media, but they're usually pretty
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 12: wax on that on media rooms.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could have pulled up.
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  Speaker 5: We did.
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  Speaker 3: Jessonn did buy a football, and then she got cold
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  Speaker 3: feet about asking.
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  Speaker 5: For an all.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, Leman is professional to the end, as you should be.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe TD is still around here somewhere. I think the
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  Speaker 3: Bucky made an impression on him. I think he's going
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  Speaker 3: I think he's gonna forget.
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  Speaker 5: About I hope so again that might stop you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's great that we're having you on
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: at different times this week. I mean, yeah, the nine
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: o'clock audience never gets your reports, and here we sit
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: on Wednesday of Super Bowl week and we got to
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: find out the latest and the greatest from our Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: insider Greg Bell. So, Mike McDonald, he has several press
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: conferences this week, but he had one yesterday what stood
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: out to you about his comments.
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  Speaker 12: He was asked about the ownership change and the fact
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 12: that the Seahawks are going to be on for sale soon,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 12: whether the spring or soon after Super Bowl at some point,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 12: and he used that question to stump for how great
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 12: Judy Allen has been. He has said that during the season,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 12: he said that even last year when he got here.
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  Speaker 12: But yesterday he described that. He said when he was
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  Speaker 12: a rookie head coach, his first season twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 12: was in a fog, and that Jody Allen provided the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 12: clarity for him and got him through that fog. Basically,
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  Speaker 12: a lot of people in Seattle in the Northwest believe
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 12: that Jody Allen as the chair of the team is
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 12: pretty detached and just lets the football run football. And
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 12: she is certainly less visible than Paul Allen was. Paul
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  Speaker 12: Allen used to be in the locker rooms after games.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 12: He would fly on his airplanes and helicopters do a
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 12: boat off shore of a game at Carolina. In the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 12: computer game against the Panthers and Charlotte, he was more visible.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 12: He wasn't. He didn't talk to him or quote him,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 12: but we saw him. We'd never see Jody Allen. She
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 12: comes maybe once twice. I've seen her training camps and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 12: that's about it. But Mike McDonald explained to us Lasswick
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 12: back in Rentin they meet every Monday, Jody Allen and
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 12: Paul excuse me, Jody Allen John Schneider. But Mike McDonald
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 12: meets with the owner usually by his the day after
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  Speaker 12: every game, and he said, Mike McDonald said that Jody
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  Speaker 12: Allen is very critical, very incisive, and very direct with
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 12: pointed questions about the game the day before and not
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  Speaker 12: always are they good. She criticized them and she sees
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 12: something that stud like and he says that she is
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 12: very piercing questions, is the way he phrased it. But
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  Speaker 12: yes yesterday he said, Jody Allen has been nothing but
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  Speaker 12: a fantastic steward. And when I was hearing him talk,
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  Speaker 12: he didn't say this, but he sounded a little bit wistful,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 12: like what's going to happen and I'm going to miss
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  Speaker 12: what I've got right now in ownership if you do
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  Speaker 12: sell the team, and it's going to be a change
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  Speaker 12: for him.
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  Speaker 8: To Yeah, obviously it would be a change, But I
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  Speaker 8: mean for those that this causes worry, about. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: a change is a change, and they're not always for
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  Speaker 8: the better, But would you say qualm your fears? Twelves,
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  Speaker 8: whoever comes in would be silly to make any changes
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  Speaker 8: to the football operations, and therefore things could and should
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  Speaker 8: stay status quo.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I've said this written. Is the people who are
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  Speaker 12: rich enough to buy an NFL football team, which are
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 12: like twenty people in the world. They're billionaires and they'll
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 12: have billionaire friends with them. Carver, the Heather group of investors.
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  Speaker 12: They're not billionaires because they're just stupid. And you'd have
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  Speaker 12: to be absolutely stupid to change the football operations of
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  Speaker 12: the Seahawks. They're in the Super Bowl. Mike McDonald's won
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  Speaker 12: twenty six of thirty six games they've had the sixteen
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 12: years under John Schnider, the most six same sustained success
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  Speaker 12: they've ever had, the third Super Bowl of the four
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 12: in franchise history under his watch. They damn well better
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  Speaker 12: not change the football operations. And I don't see anybody
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  Speaker 12: that's you know, Jody Allen isn't obligated to sell it
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  Speaker 12: to just anybody who offers. She can pick, because she
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  Speaker 12: will pick, and she on behalf of to you. Paul
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  Speaker 12: Island of State will get to choose who she sells
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  Speaker 12: it to, and if these that there's some yahoos that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 12: are rich billionaires that would want to change the football
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  Speaker 12: operations even.
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  Speaker 9: If the hell no.
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  Speaker 12: Same with people that might say they wouldn't want the
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  Speaker 12: team in the Pacific Northwest, which there's zero chance of
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 12: that happening. She didn't have to sell it to just anybody.
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  Speaker 12: So yeah, it's going to be status quo from a
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  Speaker 12: fans perspective. It won't be status quo for the people
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  Speaker 12: who work in that building. I'm not talking about the
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  Speaker 12: locker room first floor. I'm talking about upstairs and the
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  Speaker 12: business side and the marketing side and all of the
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  Speaker 12: things that are the support side of the football operation.
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  Speaker 12: That could change because people that are in businesses that
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 12: make money enough to buy an NFL team usually have
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 12: their own people that do that that could possibly going too.
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  Speaker 12: So there definitely will be changes and ownership changes, but
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 12: not to the football side.
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  Speaker 3: Are our inside of Greg Bell joining us at a
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  Speaker 3: special time today on this Wednesday before the Super Bowl
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: normally joins us at seven oh five, but we got
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: him here at nine o'clock to get the latest information
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: as we get ready for Super Sunday. I've been kicking
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: this topic around a little bit, and I think I
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: finally arrived at how I want to ask this question
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: of you. You've been covering this team for over twenty years,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: so you were here twenty thirteen when the Seahawks were
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: returning to the Super Bowl. But that group under Pete
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Carroll had not won one yet, and yet there was
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: this feeling that, man, they got something.
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  Speaker 9: Special going on there in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: That is a great young team with a you know,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: generational defense and a young rookie, you know.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: A young franchise quarterback to build around.
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  Speaker 3: As you compare the two, this Mike McDonald John Schneider
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: version of the Seahawks that's getting ready to go to
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl has yet to win one. What are
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: the similarities between the two teams? And what are the
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: stark differences between the two?
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  Speaker 12: Well, the biggest similarity is that they're both young. The
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 12: Seahawks are the third youngest team. As they weigh it
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 12: by snaps, the number of young players who played the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 12: most snaps, the Seahawks are the youngest team, the third
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 12: youngest team, just behind the Packers who are the youngest.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 12: So that's the way. That's exactly how Pete Carroll rebuilt
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 12: their defense. They're led by their defense. They have a
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 12: defensive first head coach. That's also how the Seahawks were
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 12: built under Pete Carroll and the Legion of Boom, the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 12: opposite ends of the coaching spectrum. Carol, of course, seventy
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 12: plus years old at the end of his career, and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 12: Mike McDonald the youngest coaching the NFL when he got
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 12: hired at thirty six at the start of his But
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 12: they built the same way from the defense first. They
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 12: hit big on the draft. This year's draft, even Worry
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 12: Gray's able, even Tory Horton before he got injured, compared
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 12: to the Legion of Boom and Richard Sherman in the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 12: fifth round and Cam Chansen in the fifth round and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 12: Russell Wilson the third round. Those are the similarities. The
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 12: differences are as I've said, on the field, they play
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 12: now much more multiple, varied and tricky and disguising. On defense,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 12: Mark McDonald does than Pete Carroll did. Carroll was just
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 12: four to three cover three. We're lining up. We're not changing.
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  Speaker 9: You know what we're in.
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  Speaker 12: You know what our scheme is. Because our gimmis and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 12: joes are better than your ex'es and o's. That's the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 12: biggest difference that I see every Super Bowl team. Chuck thinks, man,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 12: we're gonna be here forever, right, We'll be back here
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  Speaker 12: next year next every the Raiders that covered in two
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 12: thousand and two, even though they were really old at
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 12: rich Gannon and Garner and Bryce and Brown, they all
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 12: thought that and they won four and twelve the next year.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 12: The league is the league is parodied with free agency,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 12: the salary cap, in the draft order, and the scheduling
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 12: to keep teams from coming back. Right. They want different
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 12: teams than every years of different fans get fired up,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 12: different teams get motivated, and different interests in markets. This
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 12: is hard to do once, it's doubly triply hard to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 12: do twice. So I as well, as they're so young,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 12: and Mike McDonald's so young, and they had the number
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 12: one defense in the league and a quarterback it's only
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 12: twenty eight years old, and all the cap space they
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 12: had next year third most in the league. I pumped
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 12: the brakes on saying we're going to be back here
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 12: next here, because it's pretty damn hard to do twice,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 12: let alone once.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, that's really well said.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean you get that target on your back,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: everything becomes exponentially more difficult, and it's difficult to without
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 8: the target on your back. I mean, what say you about?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 8: This could possibly be the first ever defensive head and
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: obviously a defensive minded coach, but he calls the defensive
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: plays to win the Super Bowl. When I heard that,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: that seemed outlandish to me and yet understandably. So how
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: do they figure out a way to where he can
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 8: do that and still basically have all the responsibility of
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: the head coach as well?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 12: Our buddy, my friend and predecessor A Neuster being Mike
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 12: Sando is the one who first trumpeted out and came
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 12: up with that and been talking about that down here.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 12: It is difficult, and some criticized McDonald for not having
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 12: some awareness in game situations clock management because of that,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 12: because he's moving on to the next play, or he's
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 12: looking at his play sheet, or he's barking into the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 12: helmet speaker of Ernest Jones the next play call before
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 12: the play clockers gets to fifteen and the speaker shuts up.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 12: So and then when the offense is on the field.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 12: He's preparing in his mind for what the defense is
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 12: going to do for the next series of what adjustments
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 12: he needs to make on what he just saw. Other
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 12: coaches that allow the gordonators to call the plays can
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 12: be more overarching in the play calling. Mike Vrabel, for
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 12: the instance, for the Patriots is that way he lets
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 12: his community as coordinators make the calls so he verbel
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 12: has the ability. I was reading the story yesterday that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 12: one of the New England writers wrote the thing is
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 12: a New England writer, Boston writer about how Mike Rabel
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 12: was able to massage and use and tweak the game
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 12: clock with substitutions in the AFC Championship game against Denver
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 12: because he wasn't calling plays. And when Denver the rule
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 12: of course is at the offense substitute, the defense allowed
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  Speaker 12: to substitute as well, and the umpire stands over the
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  Speaker 12: ball and leaves the play clock out while the defense
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  Speaker 12: subject well, the defense when they substitute like that, they
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  Speaker 12: just walk off the field. They take their time, especially
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  Speaker 12: at the end of a play clock, and that caused
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 12: an interception by Stidham in the AFC title game on
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 12: a rushed overthrow, So that's something McDonald doesn't have the
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  Speaker 12: luxury doing. Now he has Brian Ayres up in the
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  Speaker 12: press box advising him to like take three times mounts
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  Speaker 12: at midfield against the colts Men left when nobody else
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  Speaker 12: in the league would have done that. And McDonald's smart
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  Speaker 12: enough to listen to his guys on the head sets
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  Speaker 12: it to it. But the defensive play calling and how
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  Speaker 12: intricately he is involved in it does come at a
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  Speaker 12: practical cost somewhat.
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  Speaker 3: Greg Bell are Seahawks insider with us right here on
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  Speaker 3: Chuck and Buck in the Morning Live from Radio Row. Well,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about some specific things about the game coming
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  Speaker 3: up on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Significant, insignificant. So where does the Chez.
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  Speaker 3: Serat being activated to the special teams group rank in
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  Speaker 3: terms of importance for this game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 12: I don't think huge, because the Seahawks special teams have
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  Speaker 12: been really good even without him playing since the end
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  Speaker 12: of November. But he is a great special teams player, blocking, tackling,
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  Speaker 12: done it in his higher career with the Jets. Mostly
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  Speaker 12: that it will only help. I think good gets better
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  Speaker 12: and the Seahawks Special teams is one of the best
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  Speaker 12: parts of it. The Seahawks have two decisive advantages in
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  Speaker 12: the super Bowl to me, their defense against the Patriots
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  Speaker 12: offense and their special teams. And if you're better, far
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  Speaker 12: superior to me, and two of the three facets of
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  Speaker 12: the game are gonna win. That's where I think the
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  Speaker 12: Seattle's advantage. People forget about the special teams, just as
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  Speaker 12: people in the Seahawks locker room about Michael Dixon and
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  Speaker 12: his punts. The special teams are a big, big part
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  Speaker 12: of this game, and the Seahawks are a huge advantage
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  Speaker 12: of it.
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  Speaker 8: Adds to that, could that possibly lead to maybe an
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  Speaker 8: unsung hero in in this game? I think, Chuck, I think,
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  Speaker 8: didn't you throw out.
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  Speaker 3: Told me he's gonna have a huge game before this
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  Speaker 3: season comes to a close, And I think it's in
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  Speaker 3: the Supermowl.
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  Speaker 8: The'd been another big game because he had one couple
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  Speaker 8: of weeks ago too. Would you would you think he
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  Speaker 8: could possibly be the unsung hero because of maybe what
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  Speaker 8: he does in special teams?
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  Speaker 12: Well, they sing him in the Seahawks locker room. He's
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  Speaker 12: not unsung and there the way he's slipped the change
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  Speaker 12: field positions one game. They would not I still say this,
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  Speaker 12: They would not have won a division, which means they
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  Speaker 12: would not have had home playoff games. They wouldn't have
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  Speaker 12: had the first namby, they would have had to gone
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  Speaker 12: the Rams route through Carolina, through Chicago, through San Francisco
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  Speaker 12: or La had Rashid Chi he not returned that punt
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  Speaker 12: for a touchdown with ten minutes left when they were
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  Speaker 12: down sixteen to the Rams in December, that changed everything.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 12: And sure they may have won three road playoff games
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 12: still be in the Super Bowl, but boy did they
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 12: take the better route. And that was because of Rashid Shaheed.
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  Speaker 12: I've talked to some neat Weaver State people about him
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 12: and him about his love for Weaver State and how
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 12: it got him here. And to write a story inting
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 12: about him unsung might be charitable because he is really
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 12: revered for what he's done in this half season. Inside
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 12: that locker room, he's played the last game of his contract.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 12: They're going to resign him. He's a big, big deal.
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  Speaker 3: Greg Bell with us here on this Friday, just days
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  Speaker 3: before Super Bowl sixty. And if you know Greg and
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: his writing, it's more than about football. It's also about family, friends, community, love,
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  Speaker 3: and you wrap that into one giant story yesterday about
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: Ernest Jones, tell us about the connection that you made
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  Speaker 3: with our linebacker yesterday.
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  Speaker 12: Well, this was from the heart. This was not an
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  Speaker 12: easy story to write, but one I really wanted to.
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  Speaker 12: Ernest Jones and I have been talking since the summer
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  Speaker 12: since his father passed away, actually before that, in the spring,
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  Speaker 12: when his father was filled with the rare farm of
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 12: cancer be in sarcoma. He was fifty three years old
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  Speaker 12: when he died. I can't even imagine that I'm fifty five.
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  Speaker 12: I can't imagine. My kids helped me go through that.
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  Speaker 12: I lost my father in March, and Ernest Jones and
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  Speaker 12: I talked about that back in July before his father
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 12: passed away. At the end of July passed away. He
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 12: went away for twelve days in middle training camp and
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 12: came back at the funeral. We talked again and he
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  Speaker 12: remembered that, And yesterday I was asking him question. I
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  Speaker 12: hated to ask him in that setting because a press
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  Speaker 12: conference with a bunch of fou saskin showing him highlights
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 12: of basketball video dunks and just such an odd tableau.
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  Speaker 12: It's not the place to talk about what I wanted
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 12: to talk. But that was my only chance to talk
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 12: to He's preparing for the Super Bowl. It's not like
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 12: we're going to go down to Starbucks and hang out
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 12: for a couple of hours and talk about this. So
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 12: we talked about it and I went up. Actually, Ian
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  Speaker 12: Farnessa's producer Andrews called me right when his Jones's availability
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  Speaker 12: was ending, and the phone rang. I was going right
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  Speaker 12: away with Ian, but I really wanted to say I
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  Speaker 12: was sorry to Jones for bringing it up in that
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  Speaker 12: setting about his father, and I asked him in the
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 12: interview of the podium, just to confirm you got there
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  Speaker 12: before your father died. Right, those of us listening that
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 12: have lost their fathers and parents, how important that is.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 12: I left the combine, I dropped everything in Indianapolis and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 12: drove to Detroit to see my father pass away. And
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 12: I never forget that, and it was so important to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 12: me to be there, especially because I live across the country.
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  Speaker 12: Ernest Jones lives in Seattle now with his young family,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 12: nineteen month old, with his son and a wife. But
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 12: his family and his father was in a way across Georgia,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 12: and he got home in time to see his father
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  Speaker 12: pass away, and I wanted to say to Ernest Jones.
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  Speaker 12: I was really sorry for bringing that up in that setting.
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  Speaker 12: So I got on the floe with Ian. I started
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  Speaker 12: talking and we're having an interview live on the radio.
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  Speaker 12: And then Jones walked by me in the middle of
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  Speaker 12: room and I just put the phone down, and I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 12: walked up to Ernest Jones and said, I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 12: didn't mean to ask it in that setting, but I
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  Speaker 12: didn't know when i'd get to talk to again. He said, gee,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 12: were cool, He said, I remember this, as you know.
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  Speaker 12: I remember you know, we've talked about this. He gave
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 12: me a big hug in the center of the convention
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 12: for and then I supposed to go back on the
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 12: live radio. I couldn't even see straight for Ian and
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 12: that interview is terrible. But these people are people there.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 12: I've said this, I've written this. We all lowed them
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 12: for their how great they are at football. He gets
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 12: paid thirty three million dollars because of how good he is.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 12: But he's a person like you and me and you
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 12: that are driving to work right now. He has a father,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 12: he has a mother, he has kids, he has a wife.
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  Speaker 12: He has the things in life we all have, and
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 12: we all experience shared experiences. It's hard to be because
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 12: of their widgets and they're fantasy football players and people
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 12: just bet on them and we forget that they're people too.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 12: And that was trying to convey that in my story
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  Speaker 12: to the News Tribune right now. And thanks for bringing
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 12: that up just because it's important for me. I guess
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 12: it's a little closure for myself to write that. But
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  Speaker 12: great on Ernest Johns. I appreciated him for doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it is so it is so strange.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you don't have the personal connection like
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: Ernest Jones the RAM, you just looked at him as, man,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: this guy's a pain in our ass, and you just kind.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: Of assume like he's probably a jerk in real life.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: Since he's become a seahawksusly, I don't want to imagine
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: this team without him on it, you know, going forward,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: Like he has just checked every box that you want
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: to see out of a professional athlete. I mean, I've
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: just become such a big fan of him since he's
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: come over to the Seahawks. And I never knew the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: layers to Ernest Jones, and man, have we seen them.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: You've seen them up close and personal. I mean you've
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: written about him. I've lived it through your writing to
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: see the layers to Ernest Jones and what makes him
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: so special. It's been pretty cool.
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  Speaker 12: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: Check.
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  Speaker 12: And he wants to retire here. He's only twenty six
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  Speaker 12: years old. He wants could I don't know if he
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 12: wants to, but he could play another ten years clause.
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  Speaker 12: And he wants them all to be in Seattle. He
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 12: loves it here about a house here with his family
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 12: and young son, and he is he is quite quite
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 12: an interesting person.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Greg, Well, thanks for making time for
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  Speaker 3: us today, and then we'll do roundtable tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to see you tomorrow down here a radio
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: row by chance.
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  Speaker 12: Not tomorrow again tomorrow, you'll see me Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, sounds great. We'll talk to you soon,
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insigner, joining us right
• 1:38:34
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• 1:38:37
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