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S7 E3 Paradise City · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. I still get excited when that intro
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  Speaker 1: comes in. It's like game day. I'm not kidding. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I've said that before, but like when
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  Speaker 1: I listen to the podcast bag Um and I hear
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  Speaker 1: that intro come in, I get hyped. You see them hyped.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think that podcast intro songs are so important.
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  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, they are because they get they do
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  Speaker 1: get you hiphed and does a really good job at it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you feel it and if it's
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  Speaker 1: ours And this is so many episodes that we've done together,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I think we're probably coming up on not now.
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  Speaker 1: It's like probably fifty sixty five now, something like five
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  Speaker 1: moments where we've gotten to talk to each other and
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  Speaker 1: in the crazy part is actually didn't really know each
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  Speaker 1: other before the podcast. Yeah, not not well, not well,
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  Speaker 1: not well enough, not well. And look at you now, Um,
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  Speaker 1: we have a huge episode for you today. But before
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  Speaker 1: we really dive into our special guest who's sitting here,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna introduce you because you're gonna freak out
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  Speaker 1: when you hear who it is. Yeah, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: freak out, Ashley. I'm in studio. It's been a while
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  Speaker 1: out here with you. When you're here, Um, you're wearing
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  Speaker 1: polka dots and and like it looks like a fuffy top,
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  Speaker 1: a fluffy crop top. Yeah yeah, is it? What kind
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  Speaker 1: of mood you going for today? Well, Amy's assistant just
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  Speaker 1: gave me a nice compliment, saying it was very clueless,
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  Speaker 1: very throwback to the nineties with a modern twist. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it with that, even though I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even sure I'm sold on my own outfit. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: very silver stone, Yeah, yeah, Oh, you had a moment
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  Speaker 1: of silver stone at the I Heart Awards last year
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  Speaker 1: of those divorced I told you there was something up there.
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  Speaker 1: She's divorced though, Yeah, I told you it felt like
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  Speaker 1: they were on the rocks. Actually, you know way too
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  Speaker 1: much about people in pop culture, way before they know
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  Speaker 1: it about themselves, or maybe they already know it. Um, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: the life for you is good, so good. What's the
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  Speaker 1: coolest update that we could share with everybody? Well, I
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  Speaker 1: did say yes to a dress. Yeah, It's like it
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  Speaker 1: was like a huge note moment. But of course now
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, not one if it's just gonna be the
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  Speaker 1: only dress because you would have multiple dresses. That seems
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  Speaker 1: very devash. It's so devash. My wedding planner insists everybody
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  Speaker 1: has two dresses these days. Yeah, shout out to Troy Williams. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But I always wasn't sure if I wanted to dresses
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  Speaker 1: or not, because you want to love the first one
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  Speaker 1: so much you don't want to take it off. But
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  Speaker 1: then today I went to another appointment where I tried
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  Speaker 1: on a reception dress. It's a little more torely, a
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  Speaker 1: little more light, and I'm like, Okay, maybe don't want
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  Speaker 1: to I don't know, we'll see that's a thing. Yeah. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: here here's my advice to you. Stop going to these appointments.
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  Speaker 1: I have to go to the appointments of my wanting
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  Speaker 1: planner plans, and you only get to try on wedding
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  Speaker 1: dresses once, like at one period of your life. You
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  Speaker 1: could try on wedding dresses for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 1: But the more and more you try on, the more
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  Speaker 1: and more you're gonna say, I don't like the first one,
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  Speaker 1: I like the second, and like the third, and then
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have five dresses. It's gonna be found in
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  Speaker 1: the corner in the fetal position, crying because his new
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  Speaker 1: wife just spent grands addressing. Yeah, well you know it's
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  Speaker 1: really but it's just one day, right, why not. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not, like, honestly, not that crazy, but Bradzilla.
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  Speaker 1: If there's anything that Jared and I have learned about
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  Speaker 1: each other in this process is that like I think
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  Speaker 1: when you hit thirty and you have a wedding, you're like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: should we get the down payment for the house from
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  Speaker 1: my parents and not spend it on a wedding? Like
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  Speaker 1: you start getting really practical because you're like, that's going
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  Speaker 1: to do us much better in the long run. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, not say I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: that route, but it's a consideration. Ashley. Let's announce our guest.
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's an it's at she's back in the
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  Speaker 1: studio again. Since you've been here, you've proven to be
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  Speaker 1: a huge role in Bachelor of Paradise. I mean you
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  Speaker 1: are one of the girls against the most screen time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how that happens, because you're so fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch, You're interesting, you're definitely unique. As a compliment,
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  Speaker 1: that's great, especially when it comes to TV and your
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  Speaker 1: love store or I guess your shirts for Love is relatable. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I've just been open and like in this experience,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just gonna go for it, put it
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  Speaker 1: all out there, take full advantage of this opportunity that
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  Speaker 1: I've been given, and not have any regrets at the
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  Speaker 1: end of it. So I feel like it's serving me
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  Speaker 1: well so far. You are a part of UM what
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  Speaker 1: we're calling on this podcast right now, crazy love dynamics
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  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. UM. They're not triangles, they're not
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  Speaker 1: trying to like dynamics pagons. Yeah, they're all over the
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  Speaker 1: place with some I can't quite capture. UM. And on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, we're gonna talk about a couple at least
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  Speaker 1: since we have you here, We're gonna let you talk
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  Speaker 1: about your own so we don't talk behind your back,
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  Speaker 1: but we want to highlight Tia, Chris Crystal. Well, you
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  Speaker 1: weren't part of that. You weren't part of that. But
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the crazy love dynamics. Let's throw a
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  Speaker 1: cold cold that's the square. That's the full on square,
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  Speaker 1: which dissolved in Monday's episode. UM and it was. It
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  Speaker 1: dissolved in the weirdest way I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Can we talk about it? Okay? So first we left
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  Speaker 1: off last week Chris uh tells Chris tells Tea that
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  Speaker 1: he's all in with her, Barty to just explore their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: An hour later makes that with Crystal that was already like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're everybody's at home yelling at their TV,
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  Speaker 1: but like also just relishing in the drama and the
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable nous of it all just jaw dropping, right, And
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  Speaker 1: then we resumed this Monday's episode with Tea confronting him
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, I am still interested in you.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, but you told me you were all in.
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  Speaker 1: Your obviously not in and he's like, well, I'm I'm in,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm also in with other people. And then she's
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  Speaker 1: unaccept We're not sure yet. That's a whole other topic.
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  Speaker 1: But then he twisted it again and she goes, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really think you like me. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: move on, and he goes, well, because I have been
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  Speaker 1: moved on since before this conversation even started. It's super bizarre, crazy,
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  Speaker 1: It's way too okay, And at least the expert. You're
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  Speaker 1: sitting there front row seat with the popcorn in hand.
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  Speaker 1: What is going on here? Honestly, I was like so
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  Speaker 1: confused because I was kind of doing my own thing
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  Speaker 1: this day, and so I was just trying to stay
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  Speaker 1: out of the drama, as you do, but you always
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  Speaker 1: get dragged into it. Um. Yeah. And when I saw
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  Speaker 1: him say that he was already out of the out
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  Speaker 1: of it, it was like it was definitely like a yeah,
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  Speaker 1: exactly wait what when I was watching it back? But
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  Speaker 1: like such good TV, Like I'm like screaming. It's like
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  Speaker 1: almost screaming in Glee because it's so mind boggling. It's
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  Speaker 1: only something you'd see on Bachelor par And this is
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  Speaker 1: the thing, Like I will defend the fact that Chris, like,
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  Speaker 1: we are there to find love and so you are.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're going to kiss a bunch of people,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't tell you don't say you're all in.
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  Speaker 1: You can say I'm in a relationship with you, I'm
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  Speaker 1: all in with you, not exploring, then go kiss somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's what I need, clear toy. Here you say
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  Speaker 1: it's acceptable in paradise, but there's for acceptable if you
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  Speaker 1: say I'm open, okay, and okay, so is it? This
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  Speaker 1: is where I don't get it And I couldn't do
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  Speaker 1: Paradise for this, And I'm heated, I'm cringing inside because
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  Speaker 1: how I would I have to have so much confidence
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  Speaker 1: or my mind had, I would have to switch so
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  Speaker 1: much to be able to sit down with somebody I
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  Speaker 1: care about and say, yeah, but I'm open and you
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  Speaker 1: need to understand that, like that's not an easy conversation
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  Speaker 1: and how do all these people have that? And then
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  Speaker 1: it's okay then to watch the person go off and
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  Speaker 1: make out with something. Seriously, That's why Paradise, while it
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  Speaker 1: was a great growing and learning experience for me, it
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  Speaker 1: was it never the experience like where Jared and I
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  Speaker 1: could could really work. It just wasn't my natural habitat.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, it's just not his natural habitat. If you're
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  Speaker 1: somebody that goes out on dates all the time, like frivolously,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I can date a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people at once, that's one thing, but I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not wired like but I'm not like that at
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  Speaker 1: all either, And so that's why, like for me, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like my relationships were very much like I would
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  Speaker 1: like pursue something didn't work out to the next but
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  Speaker 1: I could never be juggling multiple people at a time. Never.
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  Speaker 1: But but I watched you, and this is where you're relatable.
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  Speaker 1: You are into Kenny. You're part of this crazy love
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  Speaker 1: dynamics thing we're talking about here. You're into Kinney. Kenny
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  Speaker 1: is I mean, how that dude is doing what he's
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  Speaker 1: doing and getting away with it is blows my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's telling everybody, hey, I'm very open, but you
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  Speaker 1: watch him go off another date, you're okay with it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So at that point, I Kenny was Kenny and I
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  Speaker 1: were just friends. We were completely friend zoned and we
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  Speaker 1: both knew it. And I actually was like trying to
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  Speaker 1: help other people pursue relationships with him, and in doing so,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, actually, wait, Kenny is a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: Like and I'm saying, oh, he's this, he's this, he's
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  Speaker 1: this to other people, I'm like, wait, why am I not?
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  Speaker 1: These are qualities I'm looking for. So that's why when
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  Speaker 1: he went on his date, I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta put this out there because this
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  Speaker 1: might be my only chance. So what's the difference Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: and at least about between Kenny and Kristen. I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: what is different. It's not locked it down with anyone, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Chris said, So that's the paradise switched as fans. I
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  Speaker 1: need to figure out is when you say you're all in,
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  Speaker 1: you better be in. When you say you're open, it's okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's more. That's bettering still to see who he would
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  Speaker 1: like to pursue a relationship right, Whereas I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Chris was kind of like these are the people and
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  Speaker 1: this is like the person and then wait, there's another person.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little bit more like he had already
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  Speaker 1: he had already Why and did Deem get so pummeled
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  Speaker 1: last year for what I felt like Kenny was kind
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  Speaker 1: of doing, Like what does he think? That's a great question,
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  Speaker 1: but the same thing. Calton was getting the same criticism
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  Speaker 1: during week one and last week too. So what's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: The difference, Well, there's I have no idea. It's a
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  Speaker 1: critical that's the actual thing. Like they ganged up on
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  Speaker 1: Calton for being like you can't have your options open
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  Speaker 1: because like you went on a date with Tia and
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  Speaker 1: It's like, just because Tia had or feelings doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that we can we can you know, pigeonhole Colton. We
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  Speaker 1: can't feel like him for that, be honest, you can
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  Speaker 1: speak your mind. This is a this is a safe podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a DIBs thing. Like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they like called DIBs on each other, and then
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  Speaker 1: it was like untouchable, you know, like you couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: near Colton. No, I mean I did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, you did, right. Yeah. So as hard
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  Speaker 1: as it, it's hard for me to say he's technically open,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm pained to tell Tia that it's okay for
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  Speaker 1: him to be open in that environment. You want them,
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  Speaker 1: you want everyone to be open, because otherwise they're not
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  Speaker 1: taking advantage of the experience. Yeah yeah, yeah, But you
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  Speaker 1: know what I've always had an issue with. It's like Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: just because he doesn't like he doesn't mean that you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't go explore other options. And I I feel Tia
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  Speaker 1: so hard, like Ta you are my girl, Like I
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  Speaker 1: have never related to somebody on TV as much as
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  Speaker 1: I have watching you. You just hinted at Ashley actually
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  Speaker 1: is a big fan of TA this week. We've gotten
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  Speaker 1: emails and tweets and we've talked about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: some people think Tia imploded, exploded, went crazy, and Ashley
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  Speaker 1: sitting here in studio going no, no, no, no, I've
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  Speaker 1: never related with somebody more. I am the biggest Tia fan.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna hear why Ashley is a big TA
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  Speaker 1: fan and why some of the rest of the world
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  Speaker 1: about why I well, one of the many reasons why
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  Speaker 1: I related so much of you. So people would tell
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  Speaker 1: me they'd be like, Jared's not that into you. You
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  Speaker 1: should probably move on, Like there might be somebody that
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  Speaker 1: walks down the staircase tomorrow, Or how about this guy
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  Speaker 1: he's may to be interested in you, And I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: cut him all off. If it's not him, I want
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  Speaker 1: to leave. No, Like I can't switch my brain like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like one, I'm that in deep with somebody, somebody's
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  Speaker 1: not just gonna walk in, or I'm not gonna have
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  Speaker 1: like a lovely conversation with somebody and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden and be like all right, you're right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: ready to move on. No, it's not gonna happen like that.
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  Speaker 1: I have no beef with Tia. Only liking cold. I'm
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  Speaker 1: all for that. My heartbreaks and my um body laughs
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  Speaker 1: time or Tia because she's losing it. It's like she's
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  Speaker 1: lost her like for you. She's not being Oprah about it.
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  Speaker 1: She's being pig me please please back cool, like if
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  Speaker 1: she could get her Oprah back and just be like, look, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm freaking awesome. It's so hard to do. Imagine living
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  Speaker 1: with the guy you're you want to be with. You
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  Speaker 1: can't be cool. You're like, this is me all me
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  Speaker 1: and you know what. He turned around and he said
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  Speaker 1: let's stay yeah, And I grabbed Jared and I go
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  Speaker 1: fare us happy. Sorry for this, Okay, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of episodes left, and I do not feel strong for
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  Speaker 1: their future. Nobody would have felt strong for our future
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  Speaker 1: if you'd asked them three years ago. I actually, all right,
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  Speaker 1: we started this conversation. We opened up the floodgates um
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  Speaker 1: talking about Kenny. So Kenny is open. That's we've set
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  Speaker 1: the foundation there. He is open. He's not lying to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: He's telling you to your face and at least, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're good friends. I'm interested in you, I'm in trigued
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  Speaker 1: by you. I'm going to keep dating a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And then at a Row ceremony, he confirms, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, I'm a fan. He confirms
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  Speaker 1: his interest in you by saying, sorry to these other
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  Speaker 1: great women, I want you. How does that feel? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was amazing. I was. I was so shocked that night.
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  Speaker 1: I think I went into it just being like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I put myself out there. I did everything
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I wanted to from my Paradise experience. If it ends tonight,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: so be it. I have no regrets. But I'm so
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: happy that I did stay. And I do think for Kenny,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I think we had an understanding. Really, it was like
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: we were friends. We both are older, and I think
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we both just wanted to see each other at the
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: end and in the meantime whatever that meant, like let's
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: let's see if this could be something too Okay, So
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, like a friendly way, yeah, where
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you just do you think that you like Jordan's and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Kenny just for because you wanted to like someone. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: feel like you didn't really have real feelings for either
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of the one of them. You're no, You're totally spot on.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I think I think I was trying so hard to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: be open. It actually, like hindsight, looking back at it,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I felt like this is similar to my experience on
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, because I was trying to like Ari, so
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: it was sort of a similar thing. Like I was
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: trying to be open. I was trying to see if
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: somebody would surprise me. And I mean I think I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: saw in both of them a lot of qualities that
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I liked and I was receptive to. But I yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I mean I think I think, uh, yeah, that's my
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: worst nightmare, by the way happening to the show. For me,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it's like to be open and not to have the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: immediate connection or attraction and then like trying to be like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: let's try to happen. I've actually had that happen before though,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: where I have gotten to know somebody very slowly and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: dated and it wasn't really there, and then all of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a sudden, one day clicked for me and I was
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like madly in love. So that's why I think that
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: there are times that there's that instant connection. I also
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: think there are times that it's like a slow burn
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and turns into something. It was my It was my
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: concern the whole time. Then the Bachelor that I would
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: talk to, uh, my producer Lindsay Liles, who's in the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: studio right now about and everybody else is are these
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: women There's a couple of weird concerns. This one was legitimate.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Are these women being forced to like me? No? No, seriously, Like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: just like you said, they're going into this. They're saying, Okay,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: this guy has been vetted, you know, he's shown himself
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: on TV, and maybe there's parts of him that I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: find attractive. And this can happen every season in any format.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And I was concerned I was going to fall in love.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And at the end of it, then somebody's gonna say, yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I was forced into it. I was. I was coherced this,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: this environment pushed me into it, And who knows if
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that's ended up being my story or not. I don't
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: really know, but it was my concern the whole time
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: because all I wanted was the true love. And so
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: there's something weird that I need to ask you to about.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And this is in my notes from this episode, because
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: we're touching on it right now and I don't get
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: it and and it drives me crazy as as a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: in of the show, there's a moment here where Kevin
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: is talking about Colton um no, no, no, He's talking
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: about Joe and Kendall, and the statement made I don't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: know exactly what Kevin meant by this. There wasn't any
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: more detail to it, but this is what I took
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: from him. He says, Kendall just went on a date
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: with Leo, and if she's into Leo, then Joe's got
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to figure something out because he was investing into Kindle.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And I thought that cheapened the relationship, and and I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't want to be a fan
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: of a show that cheapens relationships. I thought what was
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: being said there was in this format and paradise. If
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you have a rose to give and you're in a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: relationship and that person like somebody else, then you gotta
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: go find somebody else to like real quick that I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: can't do it. I can't do that. Maybe it cheapens
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the when I watch this and I'm cheering for the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Joe's of the world, I'm cheering for the analysis of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the world. I'm cheering for the Kidneys of the world.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And that gets said, and that kind of undertone gets
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: brought in. It makes me question every relationship there. Am
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I fair to think that? Am I wrong? I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it's the best way to say it is, well, now
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: who's your best friend? Who's going to give you a rose?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Like where's the friendships coming from? And I think that's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: exactly sort of where I was with Kenny too, is
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it was like, hey, we're friends and we both have
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: each other's back, but also, hey, we're friends. A lot
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of relationships start out of friendship. Maybe we do explore
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: this because we haven't really thought about ourselves outside of that.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So like for me, I feel like getting Kenny's rose
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: was sort of like a it was a friendship rose
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: with like a hey, let's continue to see you know, yeah, yeah, okay,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So that's maybe what was being said more than anything
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is not hey, go out and find somebody real quick.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: It's just go find a friend that you enjoy being around,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that you want to see be here because who knows
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: what happens, and if not, at least you give them
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a chance to find their love, right, And I mean,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: we're like halfway through, but but actually though it felt
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like we're still a lot of us were just like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that friend's stage. There were relationships, but it didn't really
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: feel like people were completely lied in. Yet. It happens
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: every year with Bachelor in Paradise because the entire cast
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: becomes such close friends that you are like, You're like, oh,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: which one of my friends would maybe even want to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: see or find somebody else or just like who's cool
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to hang out with a whole bunch of friends zones?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Its friend zoning that happens in Bachelor in Paradise. So okay,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is do these friends make out? Yeah? See that's where
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I like, I can't, like, I couldn't you made out
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: with Kenny being like, oh, let's give it a whirl.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But like if I wasn't like feeling romantic feelings, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: couldn't go and kiss someone. Yeah. So I'm typically like that,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like in my normal life, completely like that in this environment,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, I'm here to find somebody like I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: might kiss him and I might have feelings, like it
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: might turn ignite something for me. And so that's sort
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of where that came from. And then I was like, Oh,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: he's a good kisser, Ben, you must have kissed girls
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that you didn't have feelings for. Yeah, cute or nobody. Okay,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing nobody that goes on the show
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: is not is unattractive, right, it's your chemistry. Yeah. I mean,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I'm kissing girls on week one that I don't really
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: know yet, and there's that element of expectation, um of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: awkward silence of just let's make out, like I don't know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: but yes, a hundred percent, Like there is that level
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of kissing people that maybe you don't you just don't
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: know where you're at with it. The difference in Paradise
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: though a little bit like this in The Bachelor Bachelor,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but there's these moments where you're kissing somebody and you
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: have to walk back into the room full of the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: people that you just either kissed earlier that day maybe
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: have feelings with what's that moment? Like, I never kissed
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: multiple people in one day, so I don't know, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was weird. Kenny kissed three people
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in the same cocktail part. I did think it was weird.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I actually didn't know that that happened. What how do
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you feel about that? I mean, I was fine with it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like, like I said out, I feel like
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: at that stage, he was probably just trying to figure out,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like who do I have the most chemistry with, or
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: who do I actually want to pursue or so I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: think he was still doing. I know it is wacky,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it is, it is weird. We we go back to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the producer Amy's question earlier. This is this is something
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a phenomenon in the world that I don't get. It's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the Sean Booth thing that I talked about. Some people
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: can get away with anything and other people can't get
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: away with Well, that's Bean did the same thing. Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: My argument last week was like, how is it different
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: if Colton goes on a date with Tea and then
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: he maybe wants to go on a date with somebody else,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But then Kendall can go back and forth between kissing
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: John and Joe at the same time. Crazy, Chris, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: am just like, I don't even know what I'm gonna
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: say when I meet him, because Dean got hummel for
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: basically doing what Chris is doing where he's like, Tia,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I like you. How about the week before when he's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: like Tia, I will never hurt you. I think Chris
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: is getting pummel. Minutes ago. We also didn't expect any
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: more from Chris, like knowing what he knew from the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Bachelor at right, I was. I was doing a little
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: pre research and this is just a side comment. Um,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Chris is giving life advice on his instagram. No, no,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: if anybody out there wants to go to his instagram
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to get life advice, just to defend him really fast. Actually,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I would like to just like throw people
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: under the bus. You really like to defend give another side.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: The girls like Analye but especially Kendall said he's super cool.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I know you one of my closest friend. But I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: know you girls say that, but like, I'd like to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: see otherwise. Then I'd like to hang out with him
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours past. What I think is
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: interesting is that Chris I don't know. Okay, so let's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: let's break it down. At least you're the perfect person
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to answer this, Why are you so forgiving of Kenny
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: in this situation? I think we were. It was just
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: because it was so new, and I mean, he he
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: was the wild card that night. He had five girls
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that he basically, we're going home. He could, I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he was really narrowing it down to three of us,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but like there was five girls who were kind of
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: who's going to stay, who's going to go? So I
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: feel like he has a pass if now, like right
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: after he gives me the rose, he's all of a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: sudden making out with somebody else. Maybe that's where I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: would feel definitely is that acceptable? Astley? I think I'm
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: trying to get a little bit annoying. I've been a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: fan for four years of this Paradise show, right, three years,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and uh, and I'm just starting to get a hang
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of it. M Ashley, Yeah, how are you sleeping at night? Um?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Pretty good? Pretty well? Jared, I officially moved in no
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: way that we weren't planning on it, But then we
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: are like looking at our calendars, were like, it's so
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: ridiculous rest to be paying for two rents when it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: just the idea that we thought we should be living
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: apart scratistically you weren't close and I know why. Oh no,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: oh no, we couldn't. And then like he was going
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to sleep over like five days a week, so it
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: just didn't make any sense. So he moved in. And
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the wedding planning is so much smoother now that you
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: can sit together at night and talk about it everything.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Color schemes, no, and we haven't done color schemes yet. No,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's flowers right now. When we came back with a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: dress the other night, after I said yes to one,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to tell you about it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you And what do you say? Well,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to know. Yeah, you know you're gonna
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: be your bridesmaids, Like I don't think mean, I like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I want to be separated from them the day of, though,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: how I can see that. That's the smartest thing I've
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: ever heard. I've been a bridesmaid like twelve times. Yeah,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: because you're so cool. Yes, actually, and actually you do.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I've noticed you do that. You take intentional time for yourself,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: which I think is really important, and so on your weddingday,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: why would't you do that? I also know why you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and Jared um moved in together because he can't stay away. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you have an amazing Sleep number bed and he can't
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: stay out of it. I get it. I do um.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I have Sleep number bed also. I enjoy it very much.
• 27:16
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• 27:18
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• 27:21
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• 27:25
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• 27:27
  Speaker 1: support that's right for you. It adjust on each side,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: so it's the perfect bed for couples. Yeah, it's really good.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: He's like down to have it a lot harder than
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: night I could have it good lord anyway, anyway, you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: can actually feel how it concours your neck, shoulders, backs
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and hips and for more proper spinal moment. And what
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Ashley is actually talking about there is Jared sleep number.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It's a lot harder than actually he's Jared sleeps at
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: what What's What's how hard? Does Jared like it? Actually?
• 28:02
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• 28:06
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• 28:10
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• 28:12
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• 28:40
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• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that was good. That was perfect. It was it was
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: very good. I remember what I was going to say earlier.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Chris made his Instagram private last night. Really yeah, all
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the hate? What do you do there? Because sorry, he
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: didn't do any like he did bad things here? Why
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: why the three of us sitting here? I I read
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I read through one of his Instagram put pictures and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it was like saying, note all the haters or something
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like that. People do that all the time, that that
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: haters thing. I'm not listening to all this, you know, critics.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Don't you think you should listen to critics a little bit?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, is anybody in here like and I'm not
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: saying just Chris specifically, all of us in this world
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: who have messed up on TV multiple times. We've we've
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: all done it. We've we've all been there. We've all
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: had things that we've said or done or whatever in
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: life that people have been like that wasn't smart, that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was weird, that rubbed me the wrong way. Don't you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: think at some level we should listen to critics. I mean,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I take it and I try to grow from it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But I also take it sometimes with a grain of salt,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and I also try to either delete those comments or whatever,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: just because I feel like you don't need to dwell
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in that like hatred and negativity. Some can be constructive
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and then some of them can just be straight evil. Yeah,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: so so then you you make it private, so like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: he does to probably just take a you know, a fresh,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: you know, deep breath and re ax and get away
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: from the critics for a little bit. Is that probably
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he's had enough? Probably? Yeah, you know him take a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: little time. Is that a smart move? I don't. I mean,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know exactly what he's thinking.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll have to contact him later, text tell him
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous Podcast is worried about him. Um, so we
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: have a couple of guests coming on analysis in studio.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Before I do that, I just want to give a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: quick segment recap, a crick recap of this week's Bachelor
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: in Paradise episodes kind of run through the couples where
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: they're at, what's going on. We have Tia, Chris Crystal
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: in this crazy love dynamic. We have Joe the grocery guy,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Kindle and Leo. That one. That one's a tough one
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: on what is she thinking? What is she thinking? We
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: have analyze with Bibiana, your arch nemesis, and Jacqueline. She's
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: just on she's waiting on the on the line. So
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a second John and Jubilee. John picks Jubilee over Caroline.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Colton comes back to life, says Tia, I want you
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: been the biggest storyline. You're clapping. You have faith in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: this couple. We'll see how this goes. Um. All right,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: let's bring uh your kissing cousin onto the podcast. Bibiana,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: are you out there? I am I'm here. I'm here, Hey, baby,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I I miss you so much and I watched this show.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Oh I missed you to last I'm you know what
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: kind of suff they left me right before you got there?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I know I was so excited to see you. I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: had when I saw you on Instagram while we weren't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: down there, I was like, no, how is she at
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: home already? So wrong? Uh? It happened so fast, Bibiana,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: we all love you. Here's She's so good, She's so good.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: You're fiery, just fiery. Um. We're just recapping this week's episodes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the dynamics in Paradise today. We also
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to somebody that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: was on Winter Games with us. Kevin gives his road
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: to Astard, which seems like a pretty legit relationship and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one of the most interesting ones that I want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: start this conversation out with since we have you and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: analyze here in studio. UM Jordan's and Jinna. Was Jordan's
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: reaction as as intense as it seemed on TV? UM,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Were you on his side or not? I want to
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: hear from the both of you. I think it was
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: as intense as you saw it play out. But I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: think what happened was I think he he sort of
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: snapped and then took it further than he even wanted
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to take it. I think he was like, oh shoot,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I just said that didn't, you know, just kind of
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: snapped and didn't say what he actually was feeling. Um,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a very mature or honorable moment. I feel like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and I think he felt bad about it and then
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, shoot, how do I fix this? But
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that's and that's exactly why I talked to him, because
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I felt like he was not He's not he's He's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a better person than that. Josh Murray had a similar
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: situation that freaked Amanda out and then she was like,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, should not be taking this relationship so
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: seriously and well, and they got engaged. So it'll be
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how Jenna does eventually probably take Jordan
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: back after that huge I'm Sorry in the beach when
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: she walked away from the I'm Sorry in the sand,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I felt like she was on her way to forgive him.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, it's a really that guy, he's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: got my heart. I feel like he's just what happens
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to Jordan when he spirals. He just keeps going and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: then there's like no coming back until I wake up
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the next day and then start fresh. Yeah, I agree,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: it's not good when you're on TV. No, No, that's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: that's that's baby. He needs he needs a baby talk
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: talk there for that. That's the crazy part. I think.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the time that I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: was maybe talking to Kenny. Can we reach what happened there? Yeah, definitely,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I think I think for the anybody else, yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it was. It's a lot going on at once. UM,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: so Jordan's Here's okay, I have so much talk about
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the chicken guy. David is one of my favorites on
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the podcast. He's one of my favorite people just in
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: life because he's so intriguing to me. He's the guy
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I just don't get him, and I love to not
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: get him. Can you believe at my times he's self
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: described on this season, it's just unbelievable that he literally
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: did the one thing that I told him not to do.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's like my son that never wants
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to listen to UM and so I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: get the quick uh play by play at least Ashley
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Baby feel free to to interrupt and to stop me
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: or correct me. But uh, David out of nowhere seems
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to get a gift for Jinna, a massive gift. It's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a dog m to just show her happy birthday, even
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: though they didn't have a relationship and they were doing
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: no backstory to it, and he just like wanted to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: get her a dog, which I think she she thought
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: it was weird. Everybody out here watching kind of things,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it's weird. So he does this, um and Jordan gets upset.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I mean he was trying to. David was one upping
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Jordan or trying to anyway. He's like this one might
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: be one of those moments when a producer work timing.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just because I don't know. I mean, where did
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: he get the dog? Then there's obviously help, there's tons
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of help, but this is this is the dog or
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the gift isn't the key point here? It's David going
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: along with so it's yeah, it's it's David agreeing to it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And then here's the thing that I think showed through it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: So just so I can get through this, David gets
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: her dog. Jordan walks up, gets upset, takes a dog,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: throws it in the ocean. That obviously is not an
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: acceptable practice, but it happened. And I think what it
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: shows at this point is that Jordan's like put out
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: his character for once, and he really cared about Jenna,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and he saw something that he cared about being disrupted
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and it was being disrupted by his arch nemesis, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: he got upset and he threw in the oceans. So
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I get it. Okay was right? Was Okay? Was throwing
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: a stuff in him on the ocean the right thing?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know he did it. He comes
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: back up. It was a reaction. He comes back up.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: And this is where I can relate with him, because
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I get the same way. If you really want to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: if I don't get very angry very often, but if
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you want to push my buttons, if you want to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: make you you bring out, you push me in a
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: time of insecurity or a time of doubt. And so
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: as he was angry and he walked up into the room,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: he felt like people were laughing at him and not
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: with him, and he and he reacted and it hurt him.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And if you want me to get fired up or
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: just insecure and react inappropriately, then it's when I am
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: so down on myself already and you want to kick
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: me while I'm down, and all I wanna do is
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: go away, and you just keep digging that knife deeper
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and deeper. That's where he was at, and so he
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: reacted by saying something to a few of the women
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in the room, pretty much in the lines of shut up,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: stop talking totally wrong to anybody. You don't say that
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: to a man, to a woman, you don't say that
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to anybody. And that's what we're speaking of, is in
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: a time that he was down and am I wrong
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: for anybody out there listening, I really accurate. I thought
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: it was funny that I don't know who it was
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that tells you to Belie like you should tell him something,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't care enough, and that's wrong.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I just like at that point it was just like
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: he's being annoying, I don't care. I like that Eric
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: stood up like Analyst did it too, but as a guy,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Eric really stood up for what was right, and that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: is impressive. He really and he calmly did it, and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: he articulately did it and and said like, hey, that
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: was not respectful. I actually it made me like Eric, Yeah,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I I think I think in situations like this, it's
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: one of those crazy moments. We we love these moments
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: on on these shows that transcend reality, right where those
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: were Some of us can sit there and say I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: relate with Jordan now that the words he said and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: how he handled it, that how I would handle a
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: situation like this. I don't think so. I mean, I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: really don't, um but maybe you know. I can't say that,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: but I know how it feels to be kicked and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to be down and to be hurt, and then to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: be kicked a little harder and to be hurt a
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: little harder, and so I know that feeling. I can
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: relate with that feeling. And we saw him in one
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of in a very real moment, and I think it
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: stems and analys I really want because you had a
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: little thing with Jordan for a while. I think it
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: stems from Jordans really like to agree. I agree. That's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: why I actually kind of felt like I mentally downplayed
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Jordan's reaction because I knew it was coming from a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: good place. Reminding right, like you see Chicken gives um
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Jenna birthday cake and then come in with a dog.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It's almost like, guy, come on, yeah, back off my girl. Yeah,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And it had to be all see how excited Jordan
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: is about Jenna, Like the guy was so giddy the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: moment she walked in, it was crazy. And it's the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: one that said it's gonna get cocon that's girl. She's
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: really She's made for Jordan's and I don't know the thing,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Like the minute she walked in, I was like, that's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: where my emotions came from because I was like, Okay,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: well obviously that's a match made in heaven match. They're
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: like bye bye to this, you know, possibility. But you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I think I think the thing is is that, like
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: you totally annailed it then is that I think he
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: it was a place of like actual hurt and it
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was like we just people kept poking, and I don't
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: think we all that's the thing. In that environment, we
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. We're like, oh my god,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: ha ha ha, we can't believe David just gave Jenna
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a dog like and we're laughing about that, and we're
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: not really understanding because we're not in that conversation. We're
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: seeing it from a different area of the beach, and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: so we're not really understanding what is happening. So when
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he came back up all angry, we're like, oh my god,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that's hilarious. And she's always the jokes, probably didn't even
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: think and then he's like dressed in that outfit exactly.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it was one of those nights
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that it was all stacked against him. It's kind of
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that thing when we we play a character in life.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You know, he is the jokester Actuley. You know, you
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: you have you know, you've been known for your emotions,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: your ability to show emotions and you're you're you're crying
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: at you know, moments that sometimes others wouldn't cry. And
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: so when we have this character that we we show
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and then we you know, portray, and Jordan does it
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: for a bunch of different reasons. I'm sure to lighten
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: up the room to be the butt of all jokes
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: because he knows when people are laughing at him than
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: people are happier, and it takes the pressure off of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: everybody else. You know, there's a thousand defense mechanisms on
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: why we we act the way we do. But you
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: pointed on something that we got to see in the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: show was that you didn't recognize because he's been the
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: character so often that he actually has a real side
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to him. Actually for you, you actually have a real
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: site to you. You can get hurt, like really actually hurt,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: not just like I'm crying because I missed, like because
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I'm dramatic. It's like, I actually feel this, and I
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: don't want anybody in this moment to question that, to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: hurt me anymore, to laugh at me anymore, because it
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: stings a lot deeper than anybody can imagine. Right. Well,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: that's why I went and talked to him, because I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: felt like I was angry with what he said to everyone.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But then at the same time, I was like I
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: got to know him a little bit on a different
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: level than everyone else, and so I wanted to be like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: what is going on, Like fill me in, but also
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you need to go and do something about that, you know.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: So I feel like it was a It was a
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: good I'm glad that I got that time with him
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that night to just to kind of be there as
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: a friend. Baby, you're out there listening, Um you have
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of things when it comes to uh
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: conversations that we got to talk to you about. You
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: might have one of the most epic speeches in Bachelor
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: in Paradise history when it comes to giving talking to Colton,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: who was so good, I mean I wanted to bust
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: through a wall of love myself. After listening to you,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Oh it was so good baby. When you said when
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you said the word, I feel like you're rejecting your
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: own feelings for her, I was like, whoa, that is
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: so profound and something that Jared and I related to
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah. I mean that tequila was definitely pouring,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it gave me liquid courage um
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: where I could just talk to people. I didn't realize
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: until like, well, when I watched it last night, how
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: much of you know how everybody's saying like I'm Camp
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Paradise counselor um. But really, because like I sat with
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Colton and he's talking about how, you know, I don't
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: want to see her get hurt because of Chris, And
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: then we all know Tia not really into Chris. It's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: just about proving a point, like don't treat women this way.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna say something, do it, you know
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: um and Chris going back and forth. It's just not
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a good look for him. But I'm sitting there talking
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to Colton. He's saying all these things, and I'm like, dude,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you'd like her. You are full of wisdom you always
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: have been. We gotta break down and talk to you
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: about this wisdom that you portray on everybody. I mean,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: there's a moment that you and I had at Winter
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Games that I'll never forget. Ashley has had these moments.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: You had an epic moment with Colton last night. Um.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: But before we break down where your little nuggets come from,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: we first have to say goodbye to one of the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: most consistent special guests ever on the podcast, Annaly's. Thanks
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: for coming in, Thanks for talking to us. Hey, good
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: luck on this journey. I wish you were here in studios.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I could give you a hug. All right, guys, bye, Thanks, Okay,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: maybe your skin is incredible. You basically aren't wearing makeup
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: out on that beach. I am astonished. Actually, I kept thinking,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: how in the world is actually ever put on makeup here?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like you, Antia, you guys just look so
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: good without makeup down there. It was too hot. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: gave up. Well, he wrote Ceremonies. I made an effort,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: but it was a struggle. You looked so j low, glowing.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like so jealous of what you look like, just
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: like with some slip back watered hair and clean back.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: You look just as you always look while it's in
• 44:07
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• 44:10
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• 45:49
  Speaker 1: if you're just in your regular day life speaking. Okay,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I have to get something off my chest real quick. Okay, Baby,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I I can I. You and I have had some
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: great conversations as we're going to talk about Ashley. I
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: know you've had them with Baby before. We've seen him
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: on this and so I feel like we we've for
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: anybodout there listening, we we've crossed a level of friendship
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: where I could ask this question, and I can ask
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it to anybody out there listening. There was something that
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: was said on this week's episode that, uh, I can't
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: in today's world, I can't tell if it's inappropriate or not.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: And Baby, I need your and I need your opinions. Right,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I think we can transcend um this podcast for a
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: second actually talked about it. So I'm I'm I'm in
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: a place where I'm asking this question often. Uh, what
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: is inappropriate when you're hitting on somebody or flirting with somebody?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And what's not? You know, as you know, when you're
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: not in a relationship, when you're kind of strangers, what
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: can be said and what's not? Chicken tells Bibby that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: she's got a big butt. Oh, it's such a good compliment.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Is that a good company? Does it make you feel weird?
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: He say that? Kenny says that, yeah, okay, But but
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: just for anybody out there listening, let's give a little
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: context baby to it, and then explain your feelings after
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: do you feel like it was appropriate or was it not?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: And then anybody out there listening email us and tweet us.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Email us at Ben and Ashley iHeart media dot com.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: With your comments on it was this appropriate not is
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff cool or not? Or tweet us,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: you know, answering the same question. But baby, tell us
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: your perspective. So, um, it's just I guess it depends, right,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: because if you know someone long enough where you know
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: they're paying it as like a compliment, like oh, you
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: have such tonight but like what do you do to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: work out kind of thing, then it's not. But then
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: when it's just used as like, you know, maybe it
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is just my ties. You know, you have the big booty,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: which is something that you know had been you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: everybody was talking about it. And I think because we're
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: all in bikini that's one you know, you don't make
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: a connection out in paradise. That's when that that stuff
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: kind of gets to you. It kind of gets you
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: in a bad way or a good way. Yeah, No,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in a bad way where it's just like, well, like,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: but why that's about my body. I wouldn't want somebody
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to be into me just because of that, Ashley, what's
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: your take? Okay, So I would think it was a compliment.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But now listening to Bibby, understand in the context that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: it was said, where it was like, this guy likes
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: you because look at your booty Like that makes you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: feel objectified. And I know the difference between thirty year
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: olds and forty four year old Oh no, there's a
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: total difference, Like my dad, please bring it. I hope
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you only like me for my body. Oh my god,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a million percent, because it's like I think at my age,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I'm smart, whatever, please just like
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: me because I'm hot. Like literally, that would be so
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: to me if somebody was like, oh, she's hot. See
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know this line anymore. Guy this, I mean,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I totally understand what you're talking about. You're talking about
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it as a criteria in order for him to like you,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: like a reason that he likes you. But it's not
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: as if it's just a complement. Because if a guy
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: was like if a guy in Paradise I go to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: my guy friends or hopefully my love interests would have
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: been like, your booty looks fine in that outfit. I
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: would be like, thanks. My mom and I were just
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: talking about I was just in the end of this week.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I just flew in the today and um, we're talking
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: about this because we've had we were we were able
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: to be around a bunch of great women leaders at
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a conference this week, and then we're hearing them talk,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and she asked me, like, what where is the line now?
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Like what can you say and what can't you say?
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't really know anymore, Mom, like,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: not that I've never known. I I guess I've never
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: really known. I've never been very good at hitting on people.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: But but it's a great question because she was just
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: trying to, as a mother, guide me in an appropriate fashion. Um.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: And also you know, for anybody out there that she mentors,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: UH be able to help them out. But I find
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: it if if I were okay, so just say this.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: We don't know each other. I come up to you
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: at a bar and we're talking, and a couple of
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: minutes in the conversation, I'm like, you have an amazing body.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Is that weird? Weird saying I'm weird if you're a stranger. Yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: if you compliment the face, you can compliment the face,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: then you can't compliment her body. The first eight meter vibe.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like it depends on how you connect me.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Like what if it I don't know, what if you're
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: talking to a trainer and you compliment her body. She
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: spends obviously a trainer spends a lot of time working
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: on their body, or you know, it could be somebody
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: that's been working out and all of a sudden, like
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: somebody notices, like, your body is incredible. I just think
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: it depends and just your approach versus if you're just
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: going into it and be like, damn, girl, look at that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: You know it's weird. That's it's Can I tell you
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: something with someone and you know it's kind of like
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you're paying a compliment. I think the way you deliver
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: it can change everything, can make a big difference. Thank
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you for leading me in with that. Okay, so there's
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: a compliment that I got I don't know, six years ago,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and they'll stay with me for the rest of my life.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: It was the greatest I was. I was in New
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: York City and I was just walking through like the
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Times Square area, and this guy turns around and like
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: looks at me. He goes, oh, he didn't turn around now,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: he was looking at me coming straight and he goes, yo, girl,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: where's your stomach? At where's your where's your stomach? Because
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: like I had a crop top on and like obviously
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I have a tiny stomach. And then he walks by
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: me double takes and then goes, oh, I see, I
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: see it's in your hips. And I was like, yes,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: thank you, but of course that was like a passer by.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you something, Ben, and then get
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the ladies take on it. Would you rather hot girl,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: well maybe that's inappropriate to say, but like a cool,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: smart hot girl, thank you? Like, oh, Ben, you're so
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: smart and funny, or would you rather than say like
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: you're so handsome and sexy? I don't know. I mean
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I think like I think I handsome and sexy. Yeah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I do. I mean because the thing is like, like
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you kind of said Amy, Well, and I know I'm
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: not the smartest tool in the shed, like I I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: know him. I know I can function. You just got
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the saying wrong. It's the sharpest tool in the shop,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the shiniest, he said, the smartest. That's terrific. I love
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: so like, I get it, and I can. But I'm functional,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Like I can function, and I can I can operate
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: in the world. And I try really hard to continue
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: to educate myself, you know, like I try to stay
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: up on on my studies, and I try to stay educated,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I try to stay engage in the world, and I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: try to ask questions like this to stay up to
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: date on what's appropriate and what's not. Like I know, I,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I know, I care to be intelligent, like I care
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: like being sexy and smart, like I feel that most
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: of my days. But if somebody were to say it,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: like I feel really good, like i'm i'm, i'm, i'm,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling confident. So yeah, I think that that's the thing.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: But then again, here's a double standard. And we can
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: go down a rabbit trail with this, and we're gonna
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: keep touching on this for a couple more podcasts. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: think when I feel like it's more appropriate for a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: woman to say that to me than it is for
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: me to say that to a woman, why do you
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: think that the woman already knows? No, I I see
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: for some reason, like when I don't like they need
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the validation. Maybe I don't know. That's such a good question.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Think it over tonight. We got to talk about this.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: This is a big Maybe you've got a ton of wisdom, um,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep grilling you with questions so much
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of a question as it is, just thanking you for
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: your perception, because first you said that whole you're rejecting
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: your own feelings saying to Colton and yes, I'm revisiting
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the Colton and Tea thing again. But what Colton says
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: that I just love to hear um was that he
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: said that, well, you can see that the friendship is
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: so strong, but he said, it's so easy being with her.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: And that's that's why I feel such a soft spot
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: for them, because well, Jared didn't have like intense romantic
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: feelings for me back back then. Um, he always said
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: that he loved our friendship. He always knew we would
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: be friends outside of Paradise, and he always said it
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: was so easy, like that quote, it's so easy with her.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: So that was nice. And then what I loved is
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that they kind of agreed that you you said it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: You were like, this doesn't have to be a lifelong thing.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Stop thinking of it as a lifelong thing. Just have
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: fun and give it a good chance, right, because I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: think Paradise puts a lot of pressure on everyone just
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: thinking about that final row ceremony and then thinking about,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: holy crap, we could be engaged at the end of this.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: And you know what sucks about the guys is they
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: don't have any time on They go from i know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: from Betist season straight into Paradise, so you don't even
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: get a breather to kind of just think about where
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you're really at as much as you try to write.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: And then Colton makes it all the way to Final four,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: he really is ready to propose at that point, You're
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: ready to propose Tobecca right right when you're going into
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: another scenerror where you have to like shift everything and
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: now you have to think about marriage again. It's the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: exact same thing because Jared was fourth on Caitlin season.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: He went in really probably not ready to date again,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: and then he was like, Oh, I like this girl.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I think she's pretty, she's fun. We have
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a great relationship. It's easy, but I don't feel these
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: intense romantic feelings the way I did for Caitlin or
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Becca a couple of weeks ago. And it's just such
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a direct parallel, like you have to compare like Tilla,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Tobecca and Me to Caitlin, like in that moment, and
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: those guys go in because they came from such a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: serious environment and they're going to more fun, lighthearted environment
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: and they kind of forget like, oh, this can just
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: be fun for a while, right, we could just figure
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: this out. We can date. Yes, people leave Paradise as
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: couples and don't end up engaged. Yep, I don't know.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: That's why can't you do that? It's not as fun
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: it's fun, it's not as fun to watch, you know.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: And I think t was also frustrated too, because there's
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: a part where she's just like, I don't want to
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: date him, and then now we all know she's always
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to say him. But as a woman, you never
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: really want to put yourself in a situation where like,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: well this guy is not really into me, Like how
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: do I just keep waiting for him? Right? Okay, but Bibby,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I gotta cut I gotta cut you off and ask
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: you this then, because you're a supporter of Colton TIA's relationship,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and so I know when I talked to people that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: were on the beach with Jared Nashley, the connection was tangible.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: You could cut it with a knife. It was thick.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people will say otherwise, but most
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: people would say, like Jared and Ashley. There was something there.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: You supported Colton and Tilla because when you were there
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: on the beach with them, that could you feel the
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: chemistry because I, here's my opinion, I haven't felt it
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: yet watching it. You haven't really not once. Oh my god.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: So Jared and I watch it and we like turned
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: to each other last week at the end. It was
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: when Colton went up to Tea to talk about how
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Chris had kissed Cristal the night before, and we were like, oh,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: we feel it. We feel that they have a very
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: strong foundation. Is there romantic right now? Maybe not, but
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: they really care about each other. I don't feel it
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: might be one of those Jared and nasty situations where
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: he is just having a hard time being it is more.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: We'll see you know. It took three years. It's so crazy,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: all right, baby? This week you went home, Caroline, Jacqueline, Bibiana,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: go home, baby. We're gonna miss We're gonna miss watching you. Babby.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: There is a moment we got to talk about on
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the Winter Games when you looked at me and you
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: spoke truth into my life in a way nobody ever
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: has before. And I will never forget it. You look
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: like you're tearing up now. I love this girl. She's incredible.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I text her last night I was was watching this episode.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I said, maybe you're you're a special person. She is,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: She's just she's just a special person. And you have
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: a gift to speak truth in the people in a
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: way that nobody's ever spoke to them before. So maybe
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this before I say goodbye to you,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: because I don't get a lot of opportunities to do it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Don't stop speaking, don't stop speaking truth into people's lives,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: because it affects them in a way that you can
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: never possibly understand or they could never communicate back to you.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: So thank you, Bibby for being you. I'm gonna miss
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: watching you. But you're so sweet. You have a talent
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: for being vulnerable, like so vulnerable, like even more vulnerable
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: than I feel like I can get. Really Yeah, you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: leaving Paradise, I thought, well, like did I talk too much? Right? Like?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Did I say too much? Did I? You know? And Tia,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: what did I do wrong? And I took a couple
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: of days, but just you know, you come back into
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: this and you come back home and it's weird and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I was really sad because I put all my eggs
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: in that basket. Um, But then I remember everybody like
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I got along with Crystal and Colton and Tia. You know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we're a match. Kevin was hitting it off with Ostrich
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: And then I thought, okay, well, I've always wanted to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: have a big group of guy friends. For some reason,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I've never had the chance to have guy friends. And
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: now I have a bunch of guy friends can comes
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: to me and they can talk to me. So as
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: sad as it was leading single, just because you just
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: see your friends hitting it off and having a relationship
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: at the same time, I can't be that mad because
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I have a whole new family. That's right. Maybe you're loved.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: You're the heart and soul a lot of people's lives.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: So baby Anna, thank you for coming onto the Almost
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Famous podcast. As Lee and I and the rest of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: our half million listeners love you, We love you, love
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: you guys. Thanks by Actually the close out to recap,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable talking about it. I was gonna say,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: we need to talk about this. Yeah, we got to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: talk about it. I want to hear your opinion. I'm
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: make an appearance. Yeah you do I flew all the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: way to Mexico for this thing. Who was your character's name, um,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: bred Bred? Oh, and then who is Amanda's name? Uh? Well, anyway,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, gracious, you guys were sexy. You guys
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: were so hot. I got to hear your opinion. I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: want you to break this down because this is my
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: one moment, and so I feel I feel like I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: made to Mexico. I've been a big fan of Paradise
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: for a while. I wanted to see what was all
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: about down there. I want to see Yuki, which I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: got to see. I want to see Wells, who I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: got to see. Um, I got to see Amanda, who
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't really seen a lot since you know the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: show Um and our in Lauren in their new relationship,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: and then the staff I got along Ago. So there's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: so many people I wanted to see. So there's a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: thousand reasons I went down. I don't know really why
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I was going down. I show up and we were
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: told were re enacting a book that is actually has
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: been written um for this show. Well, it was led
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: by Jorge the Bartender. He was the writer of the novella.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just came up with that. Uh,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: and you were the wholesome, wonderful husband who had a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: great relationship, right. No, you had on the Rocks relationship
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: with Amanda, and then um Ari and Lauren, they had
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a wonderful relationship. However, something happened. He just wanted to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: kiss Amanda, so he did, and then you and Amanda
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: kind of were squat at the end of all of it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But Ari and Lauren returned together happily ever after. I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: was just disappointed that you didn't get to interact with
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Kendall and Leo on the day. I thought that you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: guys were gonna come in and then you were going
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to show them how to really pose. I think they
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: trust like those dates are pretty sacred. I don't think
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: they trust a guy like me in a Mariachi suit
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: floating around a date being like, hey, this is what
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: you should do. But I would have loved Tom was shot.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: That was an amazing shot. I think that they made
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the entire storyline just so that you could say that
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding it was. It was my moment. They
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: really pumped me up for it, and they're like, this
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: is your moment to speak from the heart and yell,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: shamption shot so skill one to tend How great was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: that a little segment that we did? It was a ten. Oh,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: it was fantastic And I like that it's been in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: a teaser ever since the beginning, so like people are
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: so like, why is he there? So people thought you
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: were in the cast, and so many people have tweeted
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and emailed me saying, hey, just let you know, like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you're not in Liva and like at this point in
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: my life, I'm working through it. But like it's so
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: sweet because people are like, I hear you went to Paradise.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It didn't obviously work out for you, but just know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: like we're still rooting for you. So it's people have
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: been great and they're gonna be so disappointed when they
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: find out that it was like a four minute just
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: a scene scene. Hey, if you know, Hey, I'm a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: big fan. It was fun to be down. It was
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: great to see Uki and all those people. Um, Paradise
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: is a beautiful place. I will say that that's my takeaway.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Paradise is a beautiful place. Paradise is a beautiful place.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: There's one thing we didn't hit in this episode of
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Recaping Paradise that was the whole Kendall and Leo and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Joe drama. There's a reason that we didn't recap it.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Is it because it hurts me. I don't like it.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: He's so Joe is so great because he doesn't sugarcoat it.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: He doesn't. He's not like, Okay, well, I hope you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: have a great day today. He's just like, I hope
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you have a horrible time, and I hope he's a dick. Yeah,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: and he's great about it. I love that. That's his response,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: is like, I don't like this moment. I'm hurt by
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: this moment. What's about to happen is something I'm not
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: in favor of, and I hope you have a terrible time.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: He's simple and straight up. More people to be like this.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Joe just continues, no matter what he does, to bring
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the fans in. This is his moment. Okay. So Jared
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: watched the episode before I did, and then he was like,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I want Joe to be the next Bachelor, And I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: was like, Jared, no, I don't think. I don't think
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: we were like we want Kendall and Joe together. Why
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: would I you know, why would I not want that?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: And then I watched it and I was like, Okay,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I'd be more on the Joe train. Okay, if you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: had to rank right now, Actually you have Colton, Jason, Blake,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Joe the Grocer. Yeah, how do you rank them in order?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: From Okay, let's go least your least favorite to be
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: the bachelor to top top choice. Well, I like to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: think of myself as being like, you know, friends with
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Colton and friendly with Jason, and I've never met personal
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: hard feelings here. Well, I mean that is it personal
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: favorites or is it like who I think is going
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: to make the most entertaining season. Let's add them all
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: up into one and just say who would you like
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: to see? Um? Okay, I think that Jason's number one.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Colton let's revisit in a year because he's still pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: and he's like all wrapped up in the current drama. Um,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Blake is probably number two? And who is my who
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: is my foe the Grocer? Oh? Joe? So I guess
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Joe could be three. I don't know, It's tough. We
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: got four good choices right now. I mean, those are
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: those are people that I think would make good bachelors.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: But if I wanted to be entertained and like just
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  Speaker 1: all all the time. All. But I do have a
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  Speaker 1: poll that I made last night, two nights ago. I said,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks removed from the season finale of
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette, who do you want to be the next Bachelor?
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  Speaker 1: Jason one? It was just Jason up against Blake and
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  Speaker 1: Jason one with fifty nine percent of the vote. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious who the fan favorite is.
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  Speaker 1: I do, and I get it when I when I
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  Speaker 1: talk to people and listen to people, I think Jason
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  Speaker 1: is the fan favorite. I think he will be the
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  Speaker 1: next Bachelor. But my second choice would be Blake. I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: love I love Joe the grocer. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: has it to carry a full sea is in converse
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  Speaker 1: with that many people and keep it, keep you manage it.
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  Speaker 1: Just on the podcast, Okay, he is a little hard
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  Speaker 1: to interview, but when he's in an actual, like social environment,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: he seems better. Um. But that that whole moment to
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  Speaker 1: close this out was hard for me because I was
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  Speaker 1: really rooting for Kendle and Joe. I thought they were
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  Speaker 1: the one couple that I was like, this has something here,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: this could actually be a marriage and an engagement. Um,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting from both because I like him both a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: lots as people, and that I thought they were staying
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  Speaker 1: away from the gritty details. And then Leo comes in,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and there's just something about that scenario, Leo especially coming
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  Speaker 1: in that made me not thrilled that it was him
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  Speaker 1: taking him because I feel like, maybe because I just
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  Speaker 1: make all this stuff up in my head, but I
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  Speaker 1: feel like Leo was, um kind of excited about the
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  Speaker 1: idea that he could be Mr Steel a girl. Okay, well,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: they go on a date together, it goes fabulous. Kendall
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  Speaker 1: even says that she sees a more long term future
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  Speaker 1: with Leo. But then this ame night that he gets
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: back from the date with Kendall, he's making out with
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Chelsea in the hot tub. This proves my point Bell
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Leo maybe isn't the better man. But we'll see, We'll
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: have to watch it. That's that's a storyline to follow.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: As Paradise continues, Um, Ashley to close it out, We've
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: been a great podcast. It's been a lot of fun.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this because I thought the same thing.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: This is an email from one of our favorites Becky.
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  Speaker 1: She says, I observed something on last Tuesday's episode of
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Paradise that caught me by surprise, and I was wondering
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: if you could provide some behind the scenes intel. After
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Becca gave Colton his little pick me up and she
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: was walking away, she said, I'll tell you say I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell Garrett. You say Hi. Yes. By now we all
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: know she chose Garrett, but her season was still airing
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: when Paradise was filmed. I know that contestants are sworn
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: to secrecy regarding the final outcome the show, but does
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: that not only apply to people outside of the franchise? Phillison,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I I was interested by this as well. I thought
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: it was shocking that she sat down with the women
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: when I was there and said I picked Garrett because
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: we knew they were having a few more weeks in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: the public when they came back. I've never seen the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: show release a name to that many people before the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: season the Bachelor It's over? Is that uncommon? Ish? I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: think the girl I think the girl the Bachelor at
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  Speaker 1: usually tells her friends some real season who she hands
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  Speaker 1: up picking. Okay, but but did you not tell the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: guys who you picked? No? I did, but it was
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: all kind of like behind the curtain, like text messages
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and like private. This was on TV, so she was
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: telling a bunch of people she didn't know even on
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  Speaker 1: like on the show. She was like, hey, guys, sit
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  Speaker 1: around the circle here, let's have a power I picked Garrett.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I guess it is a little weird. It's a little weird.
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  Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I don't think it happens often, but
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: it happened, and and I was shocked by it too,
• 1:08:43
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