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The Theologies of Hate! · Bob Jeter's News and the Blues

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  Speaker 1: Imagine there's no heaven.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, how you're doing. You're Bob's blues and the news
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  Speaker 3: coming to you directly from Atlanta, Georgia. Off the cuff,
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  Speaker 3: my three cents and it's just tell your way I feel, man.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a little song of course John Lennon. Imagine, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: some people like it, some people don't like it. Some
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  Speaker 3: people say it's you know, anti traditional, it's like pie
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  Speaker 3: in the sky kind of feeling. Imagine there's no religion,
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  Speaker 3: there's no countries. We all live com ba yah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: one big happy family. You know, reality is not really
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  Speaker 3: that way. I'm not that easy. But anyway, it's a
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  Speaker 3: good lead in. I hope I don't get flagged for
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  Speaker 3: copyright infringement. But anyway, it's a good lead in for
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  Speaker 3: for what I want to talk about. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be too long today because it's tgi F day.
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  Speaker 3: Thank god it's Friday. Which a good segue. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: both the song and tgi F is a good way
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  Speaker 3: segue segue into what I want to talk about, which
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  Speaker 3: is the theologies of hate. That's that's that's my handle,
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  Speaker 3: my hook for this podcast because there's a lot going
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  Speaker 3: on with religion. Religion is behind a lot of the hate, chaos, wars,
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  Speaker 3: and everything else that's going on in the planet. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I have to tell you right off, and I say
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  Speaker 3: this often, I don't hide it. I'm Jewish. I used
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  Speaker 3: to be Christian. I converted to Judaism. I'm not getting
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  Speaker 3: into all the details why I converted, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to find is common ground. I blink.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I blink sometimes I blink when I talk.
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  Speaker 3: I think the absolute can handle this idea of a
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  Speaker 3: common ground, a place where every human being on the
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  Speaker 3: planet can find redemption without the hate. Yeah, with love. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's true, but it's more complicated just saying alwen is love,
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  Speaker 3: even though it's a good tune, Anolla Beatles tune. So
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  Speaker 3: where do I go with this? Well, if you look,
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  Speaker 3: I tell you what started me thinking. I started listening
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  Speaker 3: to a podcast last night. There was this Jewish guy,
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  Speaker 3: this orthodox Jewish guy, talking to this more or less
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  Speaker 3: Christian philosopher, and there were talking about, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitism in the world, and the different sex, the
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  Speaker 3: different denominations, the different philosophies of the Christian Church as
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  Speaker 3: opposed or as connected either way you go with Judaism. Now,
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  Speaker 3: of course Islam is out there on a different angle,
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  Speaker 3: a different perspective, and and you know, the Muslim Brotherhood
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  Speaker 3: and the Jihadist, the Islamist that's all a big problem
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  Speaker 3: because they're all nothing but hate and about taking over
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  Speaker 3: the world in the name of Muhammad's God. But right
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  Speaker 3: now I'm talking about the God of the Jews and
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  Speaker 3: the God of the Christians. So that seems like according
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  Speaker 3: to this podcast, this Christian philosopher academic was talking. I
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  Speaker 3: forget his name, but he was. And the Jewish guy
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  Speaker 3: was also knowledgeable about the Church fathers and stuff. There
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  Speaker 3: was this guy named Marcian. I think I'm pronouncing this right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: one of the church early early church fathers. He lived
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  Speaker 3: around the first second century, right after the story of Jesus,
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  Speaker 3: and his perspective was that there were like two gods.
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  Speaker 3: You had a God of the Old Testament who was vengeful, uncompassionate, etc.
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  Speaker 3: And then you had this other god of the Christians,
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  Speaker 3: which was all being compassionate about love. And of course
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  Speaker 3: when you talk about Jesus, you know, the word love
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  Speaker 3: comes up a lot about Jesus. He was spreading this
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  Speaker 3: type of love, compassion, and so the early Christians felt
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  Speaker 3: like this was a better God to worship than this
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  Speaker 3: revengeful God of the Old Testament. So there was a
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  Speaker 3: belief maybe into gods basically, you know, and you can
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  Speaker 3: see where this ideology, this philosophy wanted to break completely
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  Speaker 3: away from the Old Testament. And of course we can
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  Speaker 3: compare that to what's going on today with Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 3: kind of owens putas Nick Fouets and those guys who
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  Speaker 3: are very anti Semitic, no Christian, mel Gibson. You can
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  Speaker 3: bring into that fold other people who are anti Zionists,
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  Speaker 3: anti Jewish, and they they are Christians, but are Christians
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  Speaker 3: from the far far right, very zealout Christians who put
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  Speaker 3: down the Vatican Second Vatican Counsel. That happened I think
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  Speaker 3: in the sixties where the Pope came up and said, baby,
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  Speaker 3: you can't blame the Jews what happened two thousands of
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  Speaker 3: years ago. Give them a break. And these people like
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  Speaker 3: Candice Ones and doctor Carlson, they pooh pooh that whole idea.
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  Speaker 3: They want to take it back to where yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: have to blame the Jew for killing Jesus, and yeah
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  Speaker 3: the Jews, the Jews are at fault. They want to
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  Speaker 3: take over the world, control everything, and they are worshipers
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  Speaker 3: of this God double himself. Of course, when they had
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  Speaker 3: the Council and back in Worth three twelve of the
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  Speaker 3: Common Era AD and they on the Constantine, and they
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  Speaker 3: came up with the whole theology of the church, making
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  Speaker 3: the Trinity every solid foundation of the church, where they
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  Speaker 3: have the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost to
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  Speaker 3: explain Jesus, etc. They sort of didn't go along with
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  Speaker 3: this extreme philosophy from this Marcian patriarch of the church,
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  Speaker 3: and so they didn't totally break away from the Old Testament.
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  Speaker 3: They included the Old Testament in with the New Testament.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why when you look at the Christian Bible today,
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  Speaker 3: you have the Old Testament and the New Testament. But
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  Speaker 3: if you listen to Tucker Carlson today or if you
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  Speaker 3: listen to Marcian back two thousand years ago, there's the
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  Speaker 3: total separation between the two churches, between the two theologies,
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  Speaker 3: and so when you have a total break like that,
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  Speaker 3: you know one side is going to hate the other side,
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  Speaker 3: and it's mainly coming from the Christian side, because the
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  Speaker 3: Jews do not hate the Christians, but the Christians. Some
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  Speaker 3: Christians and this elk like Tucker Calls and Canizians and
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  Speaker 3: Marcian do hate the Jews. And that's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Christian theologians, and even in the Protestant founders, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: the founders of the Protestant Church, Calvin and those guys
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  Speaker 3: were very anti Semitic as well as opposed to other
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  Speaker 3: fascists like the Puritans who came over here and founded
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  Speaker 3: this country. They very much appreciated the Old Testament. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of them knew Hebrew. In fact, some of the
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  Speaker 3: founding are our founding fathers of this country new Hebrew,
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  Speaker 3: knew the language, studied it. So there was a deep
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  Speaker 3: appreciation of the Old Testament from the studio Christian tradition
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  Speaker 3: that came to America at its beginning. So you see
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  Speaker 3: there's a a disagreement, a big disagreement between certain factions
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  Speaker 3: of the Church, certain factions of Christianity, and that's probably
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  Speaker 3: why you have so many sex you have so many dominions,
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  Speaker 3: the dominant nominations, etc. But this whole idea that that's
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  Speaker 3: totally separate between the Old Testament and a New Testament
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  Speaker 3: only feeds into hate. I mean, every time that Mel
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  Speaker 3: Gibson makes a movie about the passion of Christ, Christ
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  Speaker 3: gets bloodier and bloodier and bloodier. And guess who puts
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  Speaker 3: all this ketchup on the Christ. It's the Jew. The
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  Speaker 3: Jew makes the ketchup and he poured it's trying to
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  Speaker 3: make a funny joke. Uh anyway, a bad joke.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 3: But so that's that's that's the tension here. So I
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  Speaker 3: was listening also to this guy from Ethiopia who was
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  Speaker 3: an Ethiopian Christian. Now he had an interesting outlook understanding
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  Speaker 3: of Christianity. According to this guy and I what was
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  Speaker 3: his name? The Wisdom of Ohso Wisdom by O S
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  Speaker 3: h O. You can look it up on YouTube. Ethiopian
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  Speaker 3: Christian guy. And he said that the Roman Church, when
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  Speaker 3: they informed Christianity, took out a lot of the books
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  Speaker 3: that didn't include it in the Canyon canon. I guess
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  Speaker 3: you say, you say it in the official traditional text
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  Speaker 3: of the Bible. And one of these books was like
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  Speaker 3: the Book of A Knoch and a couple of other books,
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  Speaker 3: but I think about fifteen books altogether. Anyway, these books
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  Speaker 3: were sort of mystical esoteric, talked about the cosmos, about angels,
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  Speaker 3: about highly spiritual esoteric things, and it didn't really get
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  Speaker 3: down into the weeds so much about Jesus being the
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  Speaker 3: messiahor the God. In fact that these books saw Jesus
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  Speaker 3: not as a messiah figure but as a mystic, as
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  Speaker 3: a guy who wanted to continue with Judaism but bring
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  Speaker 3: Judaism more into a mystical, transcendental kind of world where
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  Speaker 3: love was definitely a big part of it. Compassion was
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  Speaker 3: definitely a big part of it. But Jesus himself did
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  Speaker 3: not call himself God. Jesus himself did not call himself
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  Speaker 3: the Messiah. These were these ideas were brought about by
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  Speaker 3: the Gospels and by people who ever wrote the Gospels.
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  Speaker 3: And you can say whether they really were written by
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  Speaker 3: you know, Matthew, Mark Luke, and John, but I mean
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  Speaker 3: the Rosicurians also, which is a big group of knights
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  Speaker 3: in the Middle Ages. They also believed in Jesus being
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  Speaker 3: a human being who tried to bring a spiritual dimension
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  Speaker 3: and to Judaism. In fact, they even believed that Jesus
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  Speaker 3: was married and the Uh, the children of that marriage,
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  Speaker 3: formed the first royalty in France, became the first kings
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  Speaker 3: in France. If you read the da Vinci Code, it
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  Speaker 3: goes with vetrine of thinking. So they're all kinds of
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  Speaker 3: way to approach this Jewish Christian conflict. But wouldn't it
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  Speaker 3: be nice if we had a way to find common ground?
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  Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson, Ganantsons, Nick Truentes and not the ones finding
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  Speaker 3: common ground here, they're the haters. And now we got
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  Speaker 3: the haters on the right, which is a religious asspect
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  Speaker 3: to it, very much so. And then we have the
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  Speaker 3: haters on the left, the socialists, the communists, and the
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  Speaker 3: gih Hottists who have aligned with you know, the far left,
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  Speaker 3: basically the far left and the and the Gihattists have
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  Speaker 3: aligned there only for now though, because once if they
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  Speaker 3: win the war, if they win the battle, they'll be
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  Speaker 3: fighting among themselves as well, because it doesn't really mesh
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  Speaker 3: traditionally wise, authentically wise. But you see all these forces
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  Speaker 3: at play on a religious plane, and most of it
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  Speaker 3: is against the jew. So the jew Is standing up
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  Speaker 3: for high morals, high values on a religious perspective, and
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  Speaker 3: that's why there's not genocide in the Middle East. There's
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  Speaker 3: salvation redim for the Jews and for those who want
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  Speaker 3: peace in the Middle East. You know, there are Muslims
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  Speaker 3: who do not want the Muslim brotherhood around who do
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  Speaker 3: want peace and tranquility, like Bahrain, the UAE, Saudi Arabia,
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  Speaker 3: but not Turkey, not Katar. They're on the other side,
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  Speaker 3: the Muslim brotherhood side. So all these forces are at
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  Speaker 3: play and we're all battling each other. Interesting world we
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  Speaker 3: live in, right, So anyway, I thought I would just
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  Speaker 3: tell you my three four cents how I'm thinking about
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  Speaker 3: this whole idea. Maybe I'll come up with my theology.
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  Speaker 3: We'll call it Bob's theology. I'm not starting my own church,
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  Speaker 3: don't worry about it. But anyway, have a good TGIF day, guys,
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  Speaker 3: and have a good weekend. Be safe out there because
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  Speaker 3: it's getting weirder all the time. Love you all again.
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  Speaker 3: This is Bob on Bob's Blues and the News. I
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  Speaker 3: can feel the highway under my seed, Hey, Simmer's bearing,
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  Speaker 3: I can feel the.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a dashous.
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  Speaker 2: Walk on my top is down.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a path to the bell by high ground. When
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting in the cross walls, I won't at the
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  Speaker 3: father blies now alive.
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  Speaker 2: The four angels step inside.
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  Speaker 3: Take a rise to the other side. Yeah, I broke
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  Speaker 3: down into the sea. Its fact to George's even death
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  Speaker 3: of me when I was paying by the Laga's hand.
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  Speaker 2: Don't promise a bell wn road is playing.
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  Speaker 1: There on that highway. I work finding by the lane.
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  Speaker 3: Said the salvashion was, I'm a head inside you.
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  Speaker 2: It was paid shining through the day. I'm on the
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  Speaker 2: highway of redeem shun.
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  Speaker 3: There's must be living where I'm fountain.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on a road that has no wind.
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  Speaker 3: But first you late, you should get shown in shape
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  Speaker 3: to God.
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  Speaker 1: Wem sign my coffee.
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  Speaker 3: Water to fly to the other side the slide. There
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  Speaker 3: on that crossroads, I worked by the body lane that
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  Speaker 3: the salvation was, I'm ahead inside It was prad shining
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  Speaker 3: through the day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the highway.
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  Speaker 3: Everything show there's must be living where I'm bound. H