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- 0:00Yeah, I got to keep it real with you going back to a narcissist,
- 0:03it does get worse. It get it, it, it it can't get
- 0:06better. It absolutely, positively will
- 0:09get worse the more you go back. Well, Lee, why is that got to
- 0:12wait till the rest of the video, right?
- 0:13Because that's what we're talking about today.
- 0:14Why you why when you go back to a narcissist, it does get worse.
- 0:18Of course, if you're new here, Lee Hammock diagnosed
- 0:20narcissist. And welcome to another episode
- 0:21of The Narcissist Code. Welcome back folks.
- 0:39Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
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- 1:02this for my Youtubers. But yes, y'all, it gets worse.
- 1:07What else can I say? I, I bet most of y'all who have
- 1:11went back into a toxic relationship will agree with me
- 1:15that you and you will say you will get behind me and saying,
- 1:18Lee, it absolutely does get worse.
- 1:24Drop it in the comment section. Drop it.
- 1:25Just give me a thumbs up or drop some type of comment in the
- 1:27section, some some type of comment in the comment section
- 1:30saying, hey, hell yeah, it gets worse and whatnot.
- 1:34And it goes on. But like I said, as you continue
- 1:36to grow, as you continue to move forward in, in any relationship
- 1:39dynamic with a narcissist, you have to understand that there
- 1:42are cycles that you go through. And when you get to that final
- 1:45cycle, that final discard cycle, the end of it, when they're done
- 1:48with you, you got to understand that once they're done or you
- 1:53done with them, once you break it with them and you go back to
- 1:55them, it will get worse. Because like, why, Lee, why in
- 1:58my mind, if I put my, let me put my narcissist hat on, right?
- 2:01If I were to put my narcissist hat on, which today it's just
- 2:04going to be my glasses, I'm put my narcissist, my narcissist
- 2:06glasses on, right? My narc vision.
- 2:08If I had to put narc vision on right, I would say this.
- 2:11You know, it's just like when you leave me, you hurt me.
- 2:18You crush my ego. When you leave me, when you
- 2:22escape me, when you get away from me, you are literally
- 2:25crushing my ego in a way that I feel like is it irreparable?
- 2:29Like I cannot repair my ego because you've done so much harm
- 2:31to it. You've done so much damage to
- 2:33it. You've caused a narcissistic
- 2:35injury here, right? How dare you reject me.
- 2:38There's so much like when you break up with me, when you leave
- 2:40me, you, you allow you bring so much, so much shame into my life
- 2:47that I, it's overwhelming. It's kind of like getting hit by
- 2:49like a damn typhoon or a tidal wave or something like that.
- 2:53It's not anything very. It's not anything small or
- 2:56minuscule. This is large.
- 2:58It's groundbreaking. It is something that really
- 3:01tears me to pieces. I cannot stand it, right?
- 3:08You've hurt me, you and you don't get away with it.
- 3:10How dare you hurt me and get away with it.
- 3:13Hell now. So in my mind, like if you do
- 3:17come back to me, that wound doesn't go away just because you
- 3:22come back to me or we start talking again and we're trying
- 3:24to make it work out. It doesn't mean that that shame
- 3:27has gone away, right? It's kind of like filling up.
- 3:30Just imagine like this right here, filling up a big ass sink
- 3:33with oil, right? The sink is full of oil because
- 3:37the and that oil is shame. Like the sink has been full of
- 3:40shame. This shame oil is filled up,
- 3:44right? You filled it up with shame oil
- 3:47just becomes, you come back and you pull out the stopper.
- 3:50You expected oil to drain out, right?
- 3:52But just imagine oil draining out.
- 3:54It takes forever. It's not like water is going to
- 3:56drain quickly. This is oil and there's there's
- 3:59sediment, there's stones in it, there's rocks, there's stuff
- 4:02inside of it. So it's going to drain even
- 4:05slower. So just because you come back
- 4:08doesn't mean the pain and the shame is going to go away
- 4:11immediately. It's draining, it's feels.
- 4:13It's going down piece by piece, little bit by little bit.
- 4:17But it's not fast enough. Hell, now, hell no.
- 4:23It's just not fast enough. He's being real.
- 4:25If I'll keep it real with you, it really is not fast enough.
- 4:28So as I continue to move on and try to make things work in my
- 4:31mind, like, and you come back into my life, now I'm angry.
- 4:34I really am angry as hell. You really have broken me and I
- 4:38have to do something about it. So in order to do something
- 4:40about it, this is how I go by doing things like, hey, it's
- 4:44going to get worse. Like in order for me to drain
- 4:47the shame out faster. It's not look, now I'm tired of
- 4:50letting it drain. Now I want to scoop it out.
- 4:53Like instead of letting it drain out, I want to scoop it out.
- 4:56Now I'm going to scoop out the shame fast, like a little with a
- 4:59little ladle. So in order to scoop it out
- 5:01faster, I have to do something to you.
- 5:05I have to get you back. I have to match your energy in
- 5:08some way, shape or form. I get you have got to feel this.
- 5:13You are going to feel this because how dare you hurt me and
- 5:17think you're just going to walk away Scott free.
- 5:19That ain't how the world work, honey.
- 5:21That ain't how it is. That ain't, that is not how this
- 5:23goes down. That is not how this is going to
- 5:25go down. I'm sorry you think that, but
- 5:28hell no. You got to feel what I you, you
- 5:32got to smell. If you smell what the rock is
- 5:34cooking, right? That's how I go.
- 5:37If you smell what the rock is cooking, this is what you're
- 5:40going to be smelling because you're not, you're not getting
- 5:42away with this, right? And that's what the mind goes.
- 5:45I'm serious. That's where my mind is went to.
- 5:48Because you've broken me, because you've hurt me.
- 5:49I gotta hurt you in some way, shape or form.
- 5:52You have to feel the pain that I felt like, right?
- 5:54How you think you're gonna just walk away Scott free?
- 5:57Hell no. Hell no.
- 5:58Another reason is because, like, if you come back to me, would
- 6:02you ever weigh how it happens? I always think that you can
- 6:05leave again, right? In my mind, you've left before,
- 6:11so the possibility exists that you can just leave again.
- 6:15Why wouldn't you just leave again?
- 6:16If you decide if I did one thing wrong, would you think I did
- 6:19something wrong? You could just leave again.
- 6:21So why wouldn't you, right? That's how my mind works.
- 6:26My mind is thinking like, damn, you could you left before you
- 6:29can absolutely leave again. So that's what type of time, and
- 6:33I don't know, like you, you already left so you can
- 6:35absolutely pack up your stuff and you can leave again.
- 6:38So that's how my mind works. So I have to get you back before
- 6:41you leave again. That Yep.
- 6:45That don't sound too crazy to me, right?
- 6:47Like, because I think if you have you, if you've already left
- 6:51once before, then the possibility exists that you can
- 6:54leave again, you can hurt me again.
- 6:56You could put me through this pain again.
- 6:58You can put me through this suffering again.
- 6:59And I don't want to do that. I don't want to be have pain.
- 7:03I don't want to have suffering. I know you don't care, but
- 7:06that's how my mind works. I like you can hurt me again,
- 7:09you can leave again. So I need to do something to
- 7:11you. I'm not all in because I think
- 7:14if I look at it, if I look at this relationship and I look at
- 7:16you as having one foot in and 1 foot out, then I'm also going to
- 7:20have one foot in and 1 foot out. I'm also going to give you bare
- 7:23minimum effort now, maybe not at the beginning.
- 7:26When you come back, maybe at the beginning, I'm going to be
- 7:28showering you with things in order to get you to stay right
- 7:31at the beginning. I'm going to keep Kippy.
- 7:33I'm going to try to keep you around in order to keep you
- 7:35right where you are. I don't want you to leave now.
- 7:37I think you're going to leave doesn't necessarily mean I want
- 7:40you to leave. So I might at the beginning when
- 7:42you first come back, I might do a little extra.
- 7:44I might put a little, I might put a little extra work in.
- 7:46Why not? I might put, I might do a little
- 7:49extra stuff for you, little extra, little little extra care,
- 7:51little extra carescent, little extra affection.
- 7:54I might do that. Why not?
- 7:55I can do that. I'm fully, I'm fully capable of
- 7:59doing all of that stuff right there, right?
- 8:01I'm fully capable of doing so much in that situation that
- 8:04that's how it would go for me. So I say that to say this to
- 8:07you, this is like as you're dealing with a narcissistic
- 8:09person or talk to a person. That's why it gets worse.
- 8:11They don't trust you again, I know you don't trust them.
- 8:14You might be trauma bonded to them, you might miss them, but
- 8:17in their minds, they don't care about the trauma bond.
- 8:19Why would I care about a trauma bond?
- 8:20Like you're trauma bonded to me. Why do I care about you being
- 8:22trauma bonded to me, right? If you saying trauma bonded to
- 8:26me, that makes me feel like I'm putting you through trauma.
- 8:28That makes me, that hurts my feelings.
- 8:30So now I got a lash out again. You see, that's why it's so
- 8:32important sometimes when you're dealing with a narcissist.
- 8:34I know some of y'all won't. You want to let them know that
- 8:36they're hurting you. You want to let them know you
- 8:37want to know that you matter. So you start using this language
- 8:40in front of them was like, oh, trauma bond.
- 8:42Oh this, Oh that. They take that as offensive.
- 8:45You're trauma bonded to me, so I'm putting you through trauma.
- 8:47Wow, you must have you must really think I'm an evil bastard
- 8:50if you think I'm putting you through trauma.
- 8:52Wow, I can't believe that you see, I'm saying that's the
- 8:56mentality right there. They'll out like they can't
- 8:59believe the fact that you think that they would do this type of
- 9:01stuff. It's crazy it's absolutely mind
- 9:05boggling. It's insane, but that's how it
- 9:08works though, man, that's why it will.
- 9:10That's why like so many people just like well Lee, I want to go
- 9:11back. You think it'd get better?
- 9:13Why would it get better? It might be better for you when
- 9:15you first come like y'all might have some makeup cheek clapping
- 9:18sessions and things might get hot and heavy.
- 9:20You hot and heavy and sweaty. You might be sweating a little
- 9:22bit more, right? Y'all get that bedroom.
- 9:24Y'all get that bedroom working. You might be sweating a little
- 9:26bit more, right? But after that, after that kind
- 9:30of euphoria wears off, what is next?
- 9:33You're still going to want you, you, there's still going to be
- 9:35unanswered question, unanswered issues.
- 9:37There will be things that you've battled against with this person
- 9:40that this is going to be hard to deal with.
- 9:42There'll be situations that are very difficult to process and
- 9:45things of that nature. So when you're dealing with this
- 9:47type of person, that's where it goes.
- 9:49Like when you go, before you go back to a narcissist, you have
- 9:52to ask yourself, am I ready for this to get worse?
- 9:54Because if you're under the assumption that it's going to be
- 9:57better for a long period of time, that's going to say that's
- 9:59what so many people get set up right now.
- 10:02There are certain people in certain situations that I know
- 10:04that might have to go back into the relationship, right?
- 10:06There's people that are financially drained and don't
- 10:09have any other way, any other place to go and don't want to
- 10:11stay on the streets or whatever. Shelters are full.
- 10:13And sometimes you might have to go back.
- 10:14But ain't no situation right there play by ear, right?
- 10:17You already know it's going to get worse.
- 10:19You already know what parameters you're under.
- 10:20You already know the type of stuff you have to follow through
- 10:22it and what you have to do to survive.
- 10:24It's about survival, right? Sometimes if you have to survive
- 10:27by going back into the relationship, and this is not me
- 10:29trying to say go to it, go do it.
- 10:32No, this is me just trying to say there's no other options and
- 10:34you have kids or whatever the case may be.
- 10:36You can be on the streets, you have anywhere to go.
- 10:39I, I get it. So it's kind of it's about
- 10:41protecting yourself and being safe because you might be
- 10:43putting yourself in harm's way going back, right?
- 10:45Because sometimes if you come back, they and they have that
- 10:48mentality, if I can't have you, no one will.
- 10:51They'll take you out of here. If they've already threatened to
- 10:53harm you or hurt you, they'll take you out of here.
- 10:56Why wouldn't they? You see how that mind works
- 10:58right there? They if they already threaten
- 11:00you and putting like putting you on notice that they can hurt you
- 11:03and it will hurt you, what's stopping them from doing it
- 11:05right now? You got to think about that as
- 11:08you continue to move forward on this journey.
- 11:09Before you go back to them, ask yourself like, OK, am I ready
- 11:13for what's on the other side of this?
- 11:15Because you, that narcissist, the person, I promise you, they
- 11:17very well might be waiting on you.
- 11:19They might be waiting on you to come back so they can talk some
- 11:21shit to you, so they can put you through some pain, so they can
- 11:23hurt you or whatever the case may be.
- 11:25Sometimes they want to make you feel as much pain as they feel.
- 11:28They want to hurt your ego. They want to break you down.
- 11:30They want to embarrass you. They want you, they want you to
- 11:32beg. They're, they are suffering
- 11:34internally, so they want you to suffer internally.
- 11:36They want to match your energy. How dare you break with me?
- 11:39How, how dare you leave me? How dare, how dare, how dare, Oh
- 11:44dare, oh dare, oh dare. You know what I'm saying?
- 11:46But that's the mentality that so many narcissistic people fall
- 11:49into any types of relationship dynamics, man.
- 11:51So before you go, before you go back, answer the question right
- 11:54there. What, what am I getting myself
- 11:55into? Am I under the false expectation
- 11:58that it's going to be better? Just based on what?
- 12:02Based on their words? You don't trust their words.
- 12:04You don't trust the narcissist words of the all the other shit
- 12:06they've been doing. You don't trust their words over
- 12:08huh? You don't trust a liar.
- 12:10Come on now. Otherwise we gotta wait so a lot
- 12:12of us got to wake up. You trust a liar.
- 12:14They've been lying all the time. They're going to now that
- 12:16they've been lying this whole time.
- 12:17They don't tell the truth now. They're gonna tell the truth
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