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My 15 Years | Episode 9: Summer After Radiation · The Eye Believe Podcast

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hey everyone
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welcome back to Melody's 15 years
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we are on episode 9 and today
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we're gonna talk about what was that first summer like
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and some other fun things that are going on in summer
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so this is gonna be a very summer focused episode
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we're technically still in may
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but it's right around the corner
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it's gonna be here before we know it
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so welcome melody
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thanks
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alright so let's talk about that first summer
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you had your plaque done in
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what month
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April the end of April April 21st, 2011
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okay so by May
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how were things going
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not that great I was still having pain
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um I was still having problems sleeping
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um I was wearing an eye patch
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because the sunlight was intense
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um I hadn't noticed
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that before I was diagnosed
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I would squint a lot with my left eye
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I would keep it closed a lot when I was in the sun
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and then after the you know
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the plaque it kept going
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and I thought oh this
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maybe there's some correlation
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to light sensitivity in that eye
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so I did wear an eye patch for that reason
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but I also wore an eye patch
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because I had really bad double vision
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so it was making driving very difficult
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um I'm
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I I don't even think I had really
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started driving very far yet
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because the double vision was bad
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um but sunlight
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it was painful it wasn't just
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it wasn't just I couldn't see
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it was painful so I kept my eye closed or patched a lot
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which is um
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great timing
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and I hate to say great timing about something terrible
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but great timing because
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we're gonna talk about Eye Patch Day for just a minute
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so Eye Patch Day is in may
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it moves it's not always the same date
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um I think it's always
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what is it the third weekend
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maybe third Friday
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third Friday and into the weekend
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yeah yeah
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and it's a little confusing cause it's Eye Patch Day
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it's the third Friday but yet it kind of goes Friday
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Saturday Sunday
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it's a all weekend thing so we say Eye Patch Day
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but then we do it all weekend
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so um
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just FYI it's a all weekend thing
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so when was the first time that you heard about
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Eye Patch Day
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um 2000
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when I looked back just recently
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and then 2,014 was when we brought it over
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um I believe Christine with Ocumel UK
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did started on the 2013
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so um
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I thought it was a great thing and I thought
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why are we not doing this in the United States
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so um
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we did it in 2,013 was our first year
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and it was it was a pretty good hit people uh
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it resonated with a lot of patients
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and a lot of patient families
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because it was a way to kind of show support
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but it was a what it was meant for
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was for people
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to be challenged to wear an eye patch for a day
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and do normal activities
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to see what it's like living with just one eye
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or vision in just one eye
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because the vision changes when it's just
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when it's monocular just one eye
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so everything kind of changes then
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uh and when people wear an eyepatch and they can only
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use one eye
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they kind of get a sense of what we live with every day
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so that was the initial reasoning behind Eyepatch Day
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yeah and it is quite the experience
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um honestly
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just putting it on
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and having something uncomfortable stuck to your face
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is is annoying enough
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much less the vision issues
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I had a really hard time when I was diagnosed
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because we didn't have eye patches
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like what we order now you got them from the
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uh
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from the drugstore and they were cone shaped
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which is fine if you don't wear glasses
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but if you wear glasses and you've got a cone
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then your glasses are like this
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and then it messes up the prescription in your good eye
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that you can see out of because
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your glasses are not aligned anymore'cause
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if you move your glasses it messes up um
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it messes up where your eye is seeing
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and it messes up your vision
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so it was it was extremely difficult to find a patch
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that would fit underneath your
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your glasses that was comfortable
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and in the summertime
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they're extremely hot cause they hold all that heat in
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especially if you're trying to keep light out
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so they are not comfortable
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um
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and I don't know if you remember
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but it was I think around the first week of may
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it was right after I was diagnosed and treated
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we went to the Outer Banks for a family vacation
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with my sister and her family
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and I couldn't get in the water
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I couldn't get a lot of sand on me
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because they were worried of anything going in my eye
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cause my eye was still pretty raw
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where they had taken out the stitches
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it still was not not
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it was not attractive
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so um
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so I did wear an eye patch a lot
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which was kind of fitting
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cause we were on the Outer Banks
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which is real pirate theme
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so people just thought I was being funny
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wearing a pirate eye patch on my eye
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cause I was in the Outer Banks
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but I was really wearing it because the sand
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I had to keep sand out I had to keep the light out
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my eye was still not doing well
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it was still healing and it
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it was a different experience
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um cause I'm not
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that's not usually who I am at the beach
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I'm usually in the water walking on the beach
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I'm I'm not just sitting under an umbrella
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observing so it was a
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it was kind of hard to get used to doing it differently
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so what you're saying is
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eye patches have come a long way
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they have come a long way yes
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yeah they're a lot more comfortable now
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yeah definitely
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so that's very cool
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it's cool to see progress being made in
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in research and all of that
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but even
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just something that sounds simple
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to someone who's not wearing the eye patch
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but that all the you know
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ingenuity they're putting into eye patches cause
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it is really a big deal when you're the one wearing it
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there's a bunch of people that are making them
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hand making them and they make them out of leather
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and they make them really small
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and they really there's a lot of people
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doing a lot of things with eye patches
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right now where you can get them decorated
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um I
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and I don't mean like how we decorate for Eye Patch Day
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but I mean very nicely
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like leather tooled and painted or
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or some some other kind of a
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artwork on them where they're really very pretty
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and there's a lot of people um
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we've had her on our podcast
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Carrie Younger-Howard
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she does she has a
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her TikTok thing is Eye Patch Proudly
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and she does not cover her eye
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she does not wear a prosthetic
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she wears eye patches
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and she coordinates them with her outfit
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so it it's become much more acceptable
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maybe is even the right word
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where people don't just think you're being silly
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they think oh
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you've got a problem with your eye
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um when I did it
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people thought I was just being funny
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and trying to make fun of pirates
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right so for that first summer
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you had to wear an eye patch
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what about let's talk about sunglasses too
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um sunglasses were a big help um
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as far as keeping the light out
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um but for me
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sunglasses and I have a hard time
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because if they're very dark
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I can't see cause my eyes don't
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don't see in the dark
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so I have some kind of a pupil reaction thing
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so
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it's very difficult for me to wear sunglasses and see
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but I had to wear sunglasses
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cause the light was so strong
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even my good eye that was not affected would tear
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I would get tears steaming down my face from the sun
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so I had to wear sunglasses
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so it was a kind of a love hate relationship with it
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but I needed them
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or else I just look like I was crying all the time
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and I couldn't see or I had to have sunglasses on
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and then I really I couldn't really see
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so it was just kind of a big mess
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but I needed to have sunglasses on to protect my eyes
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but also to um
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to shield the light cause
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the light sensitivity was ridiculous
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and if nobody has had light sensitivity
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it's painful it's not just annoying
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I mean some people will put on sunglasses
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I can't stand the sunlight
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it hurts my eyes but there's a different level of hurt
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and coming out of having plaque radiation
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it was a painful
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someone stabbing me with a fork in the eye pain
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and and it was not
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it was not tolerable
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so sunglasses were an absolute must
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how long did that last
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probably three months for me
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it lasted about three months
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and then I slowly kind of weaned myself and um
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I still had light sensitivity for quite a few years
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and I
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I think about it
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I think I was probably around four or five years out
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when I finally could just
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not have to wear sunglasses outside anymore
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mm hmm
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yeah so we talked about Eye Patch Day
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so let's talk real quick about Sunglasses Day
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because that's coming up in June
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that's next month
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so we are gonna do a sunglasses contest
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because our um
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tagline for Sunglasses Day this year is
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awareness looks good on everyone
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so tell us a little bit about
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what is the point of Sunglasses Day
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where where did that come from
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Sunglasses Day is a national day that
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um we just found
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it wasn't anything that we made
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it was something that the eye industry made
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and it's a day to promote sunglasses awareness
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why you need sunglasses why you should wear them
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why children should wear them
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um
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growing up in Arizona
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we use sunglasses for fashion statements
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not for actual shielding our eyes from the sun
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which is kind of silly
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but I didn't grow up wearing sunglasses
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um it just wasn't a thing that we did
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you know if we wanted to look cool for a day
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we might put on some sunglasses
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but it was not it was not something that was common um
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but
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so it's to promote wearing sunglasses for eye safety
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eye health um
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people have gotten their eye
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the surface of their eyes sunburned
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it's very painful um
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if you get have ever gotten your eyelid sunburned
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that's also very painful um
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and and it does happen um
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there was a Anderson Cooper a few years ago
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was talking about having um
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getting his eye his eyeball sunburned
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I believe it was Anderson Cooper
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and people started talking about getting
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skin cancer on your eye
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it's like you can't get skin cancer on your eye
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it's completely it's a
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two different things but you can
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you can get ocular melanoma on your
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the surface of your eye which is conjunctival melanoma
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and that is known to be caused by sunlight
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so you wanna protect your eyes because
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you know not only could you get cancer
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on the surface of your eye
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but on your eyelids
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there's a lot of people get squamous or basal cell
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not to mention melanoma on their eyelids
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and that's some painful surgery
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to get that taken care of
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it's not it's not fun um
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and I don't think there's enough awareness about that
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about how sun damages your eyes
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people think oh
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it only damages and gives me wrinkles
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it's so much it's so much more than that
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it's a
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it you need to shield your eye from the sun rays
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because it's not good for your eyes
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sunlight also causes cataract
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so anything you can do to cover your eyes
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you're better off
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yeah and sometimes it's hard when it's so hot
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I feel like when I put sunglasses on
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my nose start like
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the bridge of my nose starts sweating
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and then I just wanna take them off
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and it's
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it's a commitment to wear those things sometimes
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and I know people that are like just
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they live in them and they're like oh
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I can't take them off and I'm not that person
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I have a very hard time cause I feel like you
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I'm in the dark and I can't see
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and then I feel like my face is sweating
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and I'm like I hate it
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whoa it's terrible
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and for those of us that can't
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that sunglasses are hard
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you can get a UV coating on your regular lenses
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my lenses have a UV coating
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so I feel like I've at least done a little bit
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or something
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but sunglasses are hard and I wish
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I wish I could be that person
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that could wear them all the time
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and I encourage you start young
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if you have children get them started young
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because everything
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that you grow up with becomes normal
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you know way
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way back in the day sunscreen wasn't normal either
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and we all had glowing tans
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and we thought we were so healthy
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and we didn't realize what we were doing then
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but we have awareness now
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so now
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we know that
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you need to protect your eyes from the sun
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that's true and just to add real quick
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you can also get the UV tint in contacts
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good I did not know that
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that's great yes yeah
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you gotta gotta protect them
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mm hmm absolutely
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and I do try to stay in the shade
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and wear hats when I'm not wearing sunglasses
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so there's also the other layers that we can do
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in addition to our sunglasses
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um you know
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hats and sunglasses and shade
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obviously would be the best scenario
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that's not always possible
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yeah not always
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but um yeah
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staying out of the sun as much as possible
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is the best thing to do
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but it's just not practical for a lot of people
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and there's a lot of people that are very sports minded
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outdoor activities are a big thing
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and sunglasses um
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it's kind of hard to play football in sunglasses
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you know but they're coming out with
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you know they're giving them goggles now
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and all kinds of things that are like wow
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this is crazy but I think more people are taking eye health
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and eye safety more seriously
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which is a really good thing
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and it's just another layer of sunglasses day
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adds to it is to remind people
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that sunglasses aren't just a fashion statement
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that sunglasses have a function
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but you have to make sure you have the proper
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polarized sunglasses
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and you have to have a sufficient UV rating on them
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a coating keep the sun out
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wearing the you know
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three dollar glasses that you get from um
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the grocery store
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probably aren't gonna give you the best Protection
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yes you want UVA and UVB
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and I know that because
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I just recorded a podcast with Doctor Kristie Nguyen
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that'll be out the first week of June
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where we talk all about sun safety for eyes
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and that was one of the things she said
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spoiler you want UVA and UVB on your sunglasses
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and polarized if you can have all three of those
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that's your perfect combination
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which I didn't know I thought
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I thought that polarized just made it like look better
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but it doesn't well
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it does do that but it does other things too right
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it's strange it keeps eye strain too
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because things are crisper
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you don't strain your eyes
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yeah and she was talking about how it reduces glare
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which is helpful too
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so it there
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it actually is a healthy thing to have it polarized
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where I just thought it was like oh it looks prettier
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so you learn something new every day
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yeah no
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that's why we do a Sunglasses Day campaign
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to tell people this stuff
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because you just don't know
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you say oh
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these are cool they're $5
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and they go buy them I mean yeah
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that was my that was me
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that's what I did oh
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I'm gonna lose them anyway
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so I'm just gonna pay $5 yeah
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so that's me yeah
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I buy the cheap ones
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because I'm gonna scratch them or lose them
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or as girls I don't know if guys do this
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but girls we like to match our clothes
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so we need like
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10 pairs in all the colors
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so you know
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maybe we just splurge on some nice black ones
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and we get a nice case
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and we just be a little more careful
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yeah well
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and for people who wear glasses
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and don't wanna constantly change them
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there are transitions that
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the way the lens darken and lighten
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that some people do like that
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but they're not usually effective in driving
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because
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the windshield of your car has a UV protector on it so
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your sunglasses your transistion or whatever brand name those would be
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don't change
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yeah in the car
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which I didn't know that until I was with somebody
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that was complaining
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that their glasses wouldn't change in the car and
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yeah I wouldn't have known that either
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that's interesting okay
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so we got a lot of new options in eye patches
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we got a lot of new options in sunglasses
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and sun Protection I also like
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speaking of sun Protection
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umbrellas are getting more popular for UV
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you know they have the specific UV umbrellas
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and they're smaller they're not the huge rain ones
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I got one of those
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when we went on a trip to Disney and universal
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with the kids and it was really nice
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when you're standing those long lines
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to just pop up an umbrella
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and we would all huddle under that thing
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and it was it was so nice
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so I like that
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that's not weird to have an umbrella in the sun
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like more people are doing it
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I think it's not just eye safety
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but skin safety you know
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there's a lot of research about
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about skin cancer that they're telling people
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stay out of the sun don't
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don't be a sun worshipper
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um I don't sit out in the sun like I used to
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um
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I do think that with the push for good sunscreen
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good moisturizers
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good practices of staying out of the sun
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is a good thing because it causes so much damage
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just with squamous cell basil cell
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I mean that's
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those are still tough skin cancers to mess with
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and then you add the melanoma layer on top of it
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and then the aging layer on top of that
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and it just the best thing to do
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is try to stay as protected from the sun as possible
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for all parts of your body
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they say that for men um
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melanoma on their scalp is the most um
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their scalp on their
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I think their back
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are the two places that they get it the most
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and people don't usually think about getting um
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skin cancer on your scalp
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yeah that makes a lot of sense
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alright so
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we've talked a lot about sun Protection and what to do
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but for those who are just diagnosed or just treated
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and summer's looking a little different
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what do you say to them
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Different is good it might be different
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but still go do it because you don't want to
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you don't want to let this disease
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take so much from you
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so I can't enjoy the beach like I used to
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but I still go and I still enjoy the beach in a new way
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and I still it's still my place
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it's still something I love to do
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um my eye is healed
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it doesn't matter but this
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the sun is hard and maneuvering when you have one eye
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walking in sand is a challenge for me
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so sometimes that is um
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I don't do the long walks on the beach like I used to
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uh
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but find something that is still a part of what it is
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you used to enjoy you know
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if maybe you can't run anymore
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well maybe you
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you walk but don't let it take precious things from you
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go out make memories
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they're just gonna be a little bit different
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you just alter it so that you're still
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you're still doing what you have always loved to do
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you're just finding a new way to maybe enjoy it
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in a way that might fit you your lifestyle right now
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that's so important I think
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in so many aspects of life
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even just aging we have to find new ways to do things
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and I think you're spot on
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it's important to remember to find the joy
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and find the things you love
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and if you have to tweak it
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you tweak it
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and if you have to do it a little differently
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it's better than to not do it at all
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yeah cause you
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I mean
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just the world in general anymore is hard
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um if you don't have your joy we
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we get depressed and it's sad
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and you sit in the house and that's no fun
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go out go do things
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even though you're outside
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you know if you
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if you don't want to be in the sun
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or the sun hurts your eyes
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walk in the morning walk in the evening
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you know if you
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if you love to swim you can swim at night
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you can swim indoors
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there's things you can still do to still enjoy that
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and still make memories with your family
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still go on vacation vacation's really good
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but you just might have to tweak what you do
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like you carry an umbrella
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wear a hat I've never been a hat person
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but now when I'm at the beach
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I wear a hat um
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a big old floppy hat the biggest hat I can find
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and I might look silly but I wear a big old hat
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because that's important to me now
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but I also it's not about what other people think of me
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it's about making sure that I'm comfortable
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and that I'm safe
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and I'm doing all the right things for me
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but
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I'm still enjoying the activity that I've always loved
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and you know what's funny
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we've talked about this before
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I'm sure um
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about how you know
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when you feel like people are judging you
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they're not they don't even care about you
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it's probably when you're wearing that giant floppy hat
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and you feel silly
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I bet you there's 10 women looking at you going
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god I wish I could pull that hat off like her
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and every single one of you could
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you just think you can't
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but then when you see someone else do it
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you think wow
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look at her in that big hat
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I wanna be like that but you know
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then we get self conscious and nervous and so yeah
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just do it wear the big hat
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wear the eye patch wear the crazy colors
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wear whatever you want and yeah
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live and don't worry about what people are thinking
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cause they they're either admiring you
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or they're worried about their own insecurities
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I find that is true
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yeah
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and if people are confident in what they're doing
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nobody pays any attention to them
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and even if you're not so confident
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you can fake it for a day
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I'm not a bathing suit person
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but I still
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if I'm at the beach and the waves aren't too big and
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you know I'm still comfortable
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I'll go in like
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you know up to my
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between my ankle and my knee
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um but I have since
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since my diagnosis
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I have gotten knocked down by a wave or two and
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and I think oh
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my god here this
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you know old fat lady is tumbling around in the surf
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and nobody is even paying a bit of attention to me
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and I'm like I could have drowned
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nobody would have known cause nobody's cared
23:16
that I was tumbling in the surf
23:18
you know they just thought
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you were living your best life over there
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right right
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it's like you know
23:23
I could use some help
23:25
but they don't they didn't care
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and that was fine and it worked out
23:30
and it's fun
23:31
and I don't care that I got knocked down in the surf
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it was great but um
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I try to avoid that as much as possible
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but sometimes sometimes stuff just happens
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so give yourself some Grace
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right
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and a tip for anyone who gets knocked down in the waves
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don't fight it just float on your back
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just starfish and go straight on your back
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it'll carry you up where you need to go
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but if you fight it
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you're gonna go down again and again and again
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and you're gonna look silly
23:57
so float on your back
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sometimes
24:00
you gotta roll a few minutes to get to the back
24:02
but that's okay that's true
24:04
that's true but when you try to stand up
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and it keeps knocking you down
24:07
just go flat on your back
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it'll wash you right up to shore
24:11
don't ask me how I know
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yeah
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well I have
24:18
I have to say that those reels on social media
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where they show the people getting going
24:24
falling back down getting up
24:25
falling back down
24:26
I do laugh at those because they are funny and
24:29
and I know that if I fall down
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people are probably laughing at me
24:33
and that's okay
24:34
cause I don't care if people laugh at me anymore
24:36
cause I'm laughing at myself
24:37
so you know
24:38
laugh along well
24:39
you're just bringing someone some joy
24:41
and there's nothing wrong with that
24:45
yeah well
24:46
you know I fall down a lot
24:47
so it's kind of funny I don't get worried about it
24:49
just like oh
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there's something there I go again
24:52
you know yeah
24:54
and keep going better to fall into the water
24:56
at least it's a softer landing
24:58
yeah for sure
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but I I just think that sometimes
25:02
we take ourselves too seriously
25:04
I know looking back over 15 years
25:07
I took myself way too seriously for way too long
25:12
I even took this eye cancer
25:14
you know ocular melanoma
25:15
so seriously it's a very serious disease
25:18
I don't mean to make light of it
25:19
but it no longer defines me and what I do
25:23
and my day to day life it's a
25:27
it's just a kind of a a
25:29
something I live with a chronic thing that I have
25:32
but
25:33
I can't let it take any more from me than it's taken
25:38
you know I had to I had to realize
25:42
enough is enough and you have a life to live
25:45
and nobody owes you anything
25:49
don't you can't rely on your family and friends for
25:52
for only so long because it's not fair to them
25:55
they didn't ask for it and
25:57
when you're not brave enough
25:58
to do something for yourself
26:00
or you're not able to do something for yourself
26:03
when you constantly rely on somebody else that you're
26:07
you're taking their joy away from them
26:08
if you won't go on a vacation
26:10
or go do something fun outside
26:12
because you're afraid
26:14
you're taking that away from your family
26:16
and your friends that are around you
26:17
that want to go do fun things with you
26:19
so don't let it take more than it's already taken
26:23
because
26:26
it's just not it's not fair to you
26:28
your friends and your family
26:32
that's kind of my mantra lately is
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you know don't
26:35
you know you're you're
26:36
you can do it you can do anything
26:38
absolutely I agree
26:40
you can do anything
26:41
and as long as you have that attitude
26:43
you will find a way to do it
26:44
so I think that's a great way to end this episode
26:48
we've talked a lot about summer
26:50
so we hope you guys have a wonderful summer
26:52
I hope you have big vacation plans
26:54
even if that just means
26:57
um you know
26:58
having a barbecue in your backyard
27:00
if it's something exciting that's gonna bring you joy
27:02
I hope that you have something
27:05
wonderful to look forward to
27:06
and you have a fantastic summer
27:08
and we will see you guys all next episode