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EP 11: The Person You Love Most Is Built to Trigger You the Most — Guest Rory Kilmartin

Two people meet. They're kind. They love each other. They wake up every morning genuinely wanting the best for one another. On paper, it should be Disney. So why do so many of them end up taking each other into a private hell?

That question has consumed Rory Kilmartin for the better part of 40 years, and the answer he's spent two decades excavating is not the one you'll hear from most relationship coaches. It's darker, stranger, and — once you sit with it — far more useful.

This is the episode that, as Paul puts it, this whole podcast wouldn't exist without. It was Rory who first connected…

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