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Ep. 114: Nuremberg Them All · The Opinionated Ogre Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: I think he just likes being on camera.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think so too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good morning, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, shall we get started?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is The Opinionated Ogre podcast, your weekly rampage through current events.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you locking me?
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  SPEAKER_00: A little snark, a bit of foul language, and a lot of strong opinions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey, if you want to read the intro, go for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I was just...
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  SPEAKER_00: Mocking you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mock, mock, mock, mock.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, episode 114, Nuremberg Them All.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is The Opinionated Ogre podcast,
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  SPEAKER_01: your weekly rampage to current events with a little smirk,
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  SPEAKER_01: a bit of foul language, and a lot of strong opinions.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are new episodes every Thursday,
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  SPEAKER_01: and you're not safe for work or polite company of any kind whatsoever.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I just got to ask you,
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  SPEAKER_01: as Trump sets up a $2.8 billion sale of 2,000
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  SPEAKER_01: pound bombs to Israel using our money,
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  SPEAKER_01: by the way, that's something that the press hasn't really been talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is being paid for with a grant.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not even Israel paying for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're paying for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're giving them the money to pay for it, which is great.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are two really important things that people should remember about this.
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  SPEAKER_01: One, Biden explicitly stopped this kind of sale because they were using these bombs
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  SPEAKER_01: in Gaza and we didn't want them to do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Something the press kind of, you know, didn't really talk about.
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  SPEAKER_01: And all throughout now, I've talked about this numerous times all throughout 2024.
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  SPEAKER_01: The press wrote dozens and dozens of articles about American bombs being used
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  SPEAKER_01: in Gaza,
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  SPEAKER_01: then immediately stopped writing about that,
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  SPEAKER_01: writing those articles when Trump was sworn in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Israel didn't stop bombing Gaza, and in fact, the worst violence occurred under Trump.
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  SPEAKER_01: They absolutely used our weapons to do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think those are two very interesting facts that people should be thinking about,
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  SPEAKER_01: especially over the next year when those bombs are getting used and
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  SPEAKER_01: the press doesn't write,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, more than two or three articles about it, if that many.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just something to keep in mind as time goes on.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we wonder, whatever happened to those bombs?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where did they go?
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  SPEAKER_01: Who's using them?
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  SPEAKER_01: How are they being used?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why isn't the press talking about it anymore?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why was it such an important story in 2024
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  SPEAKER_00: and not anymore?
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  SPEAKER_00: Good to think
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  SPEAKER_01: about these things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, duh.
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  SPEAKER_00: The obvious reason is that Macklemore is way more important.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: For sure, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I am your podcast host, The Opinionated Ogre, and this is my co-host, Florida Woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello, Florida Woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: Good morning, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the recording for September 17th,
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  SPEAKER_01: 2026, and we have a lot to get to on episode 114 of the Og Pod.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are we ready to do this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Fuck yeah, we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Woo!
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's get to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's time for the Ogre Nation news updates.
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  SPEAKER_00: Roar!
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  SPEAKER_00: Roar!
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  SPEAKER_00: It kinda looks like I have a sleepy eye today, doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: So while Americans observed the 25th anniversary of
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  SPEAKER_00: the 9-11 terrorist attacks last week,
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  SPEAKER_00: the Department of Homeland Security Office of the Inspector General quietly dropped
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  SPEAKER_00: a really, really,
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  SPEAKER_00: really troubling report about the conditions at
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  SPEAKER_00: the Florida Immigration Concentration Camp, the so-called Alligator Alcatraz.
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  SPEAKER_00: The report detailed the conditions that were every bit as bad as
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  SPEAKER_00: the detained immigrants that they were.
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  SPEAKER_00: So first of all,
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  SPEAKER_00: the OIG inspectors showed up at the facility without any notice,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is exactly how you need to do it if you want to see what's really going on
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  SPEAKER_00: and not see the Trump-watched version of events.
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  SPEAKER_00: When the inspectors asked the staff members what detention facilities were,
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  SPEAKER_00: They all gave different answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means that there was no clear set of standards at the facility.
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  SPEAKER_00: And an official at the concentration camp explained that because of the lack
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  SPEAKER_00: of standards,
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  SPEAKER_00: the detainees were not given access to commissary,
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  SPEAKER_00: in-person visits with their family,
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  SPEAKER_00: or recreation like TVs, books, and even playing cards.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, the telephones weren't working.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they had no way to contact their ICE attorneys or their immigration attorneys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Detainees were not provided with adequate living space, which,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: we've all seen pictures of them crammed into cells, so that's not a big surprise.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were only given about half of the space a typical prisoner would receive.
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  SPEAKER_00: So federal standards require 75 square feet of floor space per inmate.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were given 28.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, none of the housing units had common areas like tables and chairs, etc.
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  SPEAKER_00: The only place for the inmates to sit when they were in the housing units were
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  SPEAKER_00: on their bunk beds or like on the floor by their bunk beds.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they spent most of the time in those cramped quarters
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  SPEAKER_00: because they were only given three hours of work time a week.
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  SPEAKER_00: And pictures in the report show like literal metal cages, like fences.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like they went to USA Fence and they were like,
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  SPEAKER_00: hey, build me a cage and throw some
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  SPEAKER_01: bunk beds in there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you got to build it on the cheap.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as punishment, the guards would hold the immigrants in a tiny little cage.
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  SPEAKER_00: It honestly looked like an upright coffin made of.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was in the Florida sun.
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  SPEAKER_00: And remember, the facility was in the middle of the Everglades.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the mosquitoes were undoubtedly out of control.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go to the national park that's over there and the state park of Big Cypress.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I'm there, I'm constantly swatting my arms.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I cannot imagine being stuck in that thing for hours and hours and hours.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I read somewhere that,
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  SPEAKER_01: because it's hard to tell from the pictures,
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  SPEAKER_01: that the cages weren't necessarily tall enough for someone to stand up in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: They had the dimensions in the report, and I want to say that they said it was eight feet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it didn't look that small.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if that was true or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, sorry about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Somebody was calling me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to read this quote that you...
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so this is an aide to Governor DeSantis.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was talking to NBC News about the cages.
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  SPEAKER_01: His name's Alex Lafricone.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the quote is,
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  SPEAKER_01: while it adheres to all federal standards for criminal confinement,
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  SPEAKER_01: which I'm pretty sure is not fucking true, we'd make it even smaller if we could.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually, completely untrue, as the OIG found.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, these guys are just monsters.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're fucking monsters.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely awful.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a freezer where food was being stored at unsafe temperatures.
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  SPEAKER_00: The OIG inspectors observed the freezer getting increasingly warmer during their visit.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they were taking the temperature,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it was, the freezer was supposed to be at zero degrees Fahrenheit.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was at 10 degrees when they first took it,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then it increased to 14 degrees within an hour.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, good luck keeping your food fresh in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Detainees did not have access to water or cups at the facility.
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  SPEAKER_00: When they were asked if they had clean water, they said no.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure they were lying.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't trust a detainee.
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  SPEAKER_01: Definitely trust the government.
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  SPEAKER_00: The inspector saw their cups like hanging out over by like the bathroom,
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  SPEAKER_00: like upside down on the wall for the bathrooms and like on the end of their bunks
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  SPEAKER_00: and all kinds of weird places.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure those cups were really nasty.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were only allowed to shower three times a week.
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  SPEAKER_00: The showers were infested with bugs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Disgusting.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were given toothbrushes to use each day,
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  SPEAKER_00: but if they wanted toothpaste,
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  SPEAKER_00: they had to ask a guard to apply it to their toothbrush,
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  SPEAKER_00: which seems so fucking bizarre to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are they going to do with the toothpaste?
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  SPEAKER_01: Eat it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are they going to eat it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The OIG gave DHS a list of 10 recommendations to improve the conditions at
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  SPEAKER_00: the concentration camp.
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  SPEAKER_00: But DHS claimed that Florida was in charge of maintaining the day-to-day operations.
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  SPEAKER_00: The OIG noted that there were ICE officials at the camp, ICE posters on the wall.
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  SPEAKER_00: Florida officials said in court that DHS was helping to operate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: In other words, DHS was lying and refused to take any responsibility whatsoever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shocking.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Florida's immigration detention facilities are notorious for their inhumane conditions.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've talked about this before.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've written about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: But right down the road from Alligator Alcatraz is Chrome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Chrome is one of the worst immigration detention facilities in the country.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've had multiple, multiple records of abuse long before Donald Trump was a thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's only gotten worse since he's been in office.
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  SPEAKER_00: At least four deaths have occurred at Chrome that we know of since Trump took office.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as we've said over and over again, this is all because the cruelty is the fucking point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Trump and Republicans have made it clear that they want life at these facilities
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  SPEAKER_00: to be as painful as possible.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that it forces immigrants to sign deportation orders or self-deport
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  SPEAKER_00: before they ever get to those facilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are taking a page from Joe Arpaio's book, who,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: back in the early 2000s and mid-2000s,
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  SPEAKER_00: he had like these really horrible,
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  SPEAKER_00: a really horrible prison camp in Maricopa County,
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  SPEAKER_00: Arizona, where he would force immigrants to wear like pink clothes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Prisoners of all types, but he specifically hated immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_00: He made them wear pink uniforms and live in the desert and eat ketchup packets
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  SPEAKER_00: because he said that he wanted them to leave the country.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm doing this because I want to make it horrible so they leave the country.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what the Trump regime is doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's working.
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  SPEAKER_00: My family,
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  SPEAKER_00: this is anecdotal obviously,
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  SPEAKER_00: but we know multiple people who have signed voluntary deportation orders.
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  SPEAKER_00: The father of one of our family members just left with his other kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: We know another guy who left.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had somebody who was snatched up in his house in Orlando,
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  SPEAKER_00: even though he had TPS and owns a business and has lived here for 26 years legally.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not just that people are being forced to self-deport, but they're also dying.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're dying in these facilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're dying from ICE agents.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're Dying in the fucking road because they got hit by a car because they're afraid.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just, you know, I can't, I'm as angry as my Lexapro will allow this morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I just cannot describe to you what it's like for immigrants in this country right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see it on the news,
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  SPEAKER_00: but you can't know what it's like unless you know somebody who's being impacted.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's why we always say that it's so,
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  SPEAKER_00: so important that we hold these Nazis accountable when this regime falls.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it will.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's not going to be here forever.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can never allow this to happen again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because believe me, Republicans, this is their normal now.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is how they want to treat immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_00: They will never go back to being humane to immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_00: They know that they can get away with this now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which means they'll know they can get away with it with anybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the only way that we can stop this from happening again is if we Nuremberg them all.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and remember, when the regime falls, and like we keep saying, it will.
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  SPEAKER_01: The first words out of the legacy press's mouth is,
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  SPEAKER_01: we have to come together for the good of the country.
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  SPEAKER_01: Never.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the way we come together...
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  SPEAKER_01: It can't be, we can't, we can't.
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  SPEAKER_01: We coddle them and say, no, we understand your rage.
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  SPEAKER_01: We understand your white grievance and how angry you were.
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  SPEAKER_01: We get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have to understand that your white grievance This is a cancer,
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  SPEAKER_01: and we're going to cut it out and put it in a little fucking prison cell,
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  SPEAKER_01: and you're going to fester there for 20 to 25 years.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when you get out, you'll be old, and then you can be overwhelmed.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how you can spend your old age,
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  SPEAKER_01: screaming in your shit-filled diaper at all the people that you hated so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or you can just
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  SPEAKER_01: Go live in a fucking trailer park and overdose on meth.
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  SPEAKER_01: And no one will care because nothing of value will have been lost.
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  SPEAKER_01: These people have to understand this will not happen again
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  SPEAKER_01: because we will not allow it to happen again.
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  SPEAKER_01: There has to be consequences.
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  SPEAKER_01: The reason they keep doing this and getting worse every time is
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  SPEAKER_01: because every time they're out of power, there are no fucking consequences for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I have always said,
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  SPEAKER_00: if we hadn't hung in the Confederates in 1865, this would be happening today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we'd hung the Confederates,
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  SPEAKER_01: if we'd hung the business plot,
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  SPEAKER_01: if we'd hung the fucking Nazis when they fucking were running around the country in
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  SPEAKER_01: the 1940s,
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  SPEAKER_01: if we'd gone after the Reagan administration after all of their crimes,
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  SPEAKER_01: if we'd gone after the Bush administration after all of their crimes,
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  SPEAKER_01: if the January Sixers had been in prison along with their leader,
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  SPEAKER_01: Donald Trump, none of this would be happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we keep going.
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  SPEAKER_01: Man, we just have to understand the anger of white people.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're so oppressed in America.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you just feel bad for them?
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  SPEAKER_01: Can't we just move on?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fuck these people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nuremberg them all.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nuremberg them all.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Nuremberg them all.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: We need shirts that say that.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I keep thinking about making them and selling them online.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure I would sell a gazillion of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, now let us move on to this week's SCOTUS ruling on mail-in voting.
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  SPEAKER_01: Despite Alito and Thomas dissenting,
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  SPEAKER_01: the Supreme Court,
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  SPEAKER_01: even with the six most corrupt justices in America,
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  SPEAKER_01: They're not allowing Donald Trump to use the post office to decide who gets
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  SPEAKER_01: the vote.
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  SPEAKER_01: On Monday,
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  SPEAKER_01: the justices finally decided enough is enough and ruled that Trump cannot use
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  SPEAKER_01: the post office to stop mail-in ballots from being sent out to voters for the vote.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember, Trump was desperately trying to interfere with mail-in voting.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's been doing this for years,
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  SPEAKER_01: screaming about mail-in voting,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then he decided to just go all in and have the post office literally block
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  SPEAKER_01: And even though he exclusively only votes by mail-in voting,
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  SPEAKER_01: in order to swing elections for Republicans, he wanted to tamper with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the majority wrote,
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  SPEAKER_01: and they didn't just do like a shadow docket thing where they just said no
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  SPEAKER_01: and didn't say anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were very explicit.
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  SPEAKER_01: They wrote that Trump's attempt to implement restrictions was likely to fail,
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  SPEAKER_01: but they didn't get into the full details of why since it was an emergency order.
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  SPEAKER_01: But still, they said no.
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  SPEAKER_01: Alito and Thomas, on the other hand, ever the...
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  SPEAKER_01: We're super, super mad about this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Alito wrote to dissent and Thomas joined and claimed that
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  SPEAKER_01: the Postal Service had broad authority to regulate the mail,
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  SPEAKER_01: including mail-in voting.
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  SPEAKER_01: He also argued that some of the plaintiffs lack standing, which is absolute bullshit.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Post Office does not have the authority to regulate mail-in voting.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's insane.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to explain in any more clarity just how black and white the lettering of
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  SPEAKER_01: the Constitution is when it comes to voting.
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  SPEAKER_01: The executive branch has no authority over voting.
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  SPEAKER_01: None whatsoever.
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  SPEAKER_01: Congress does.
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  SPEAKER_01: The states do.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: The executive branch, of which the Postal is part of, does not.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: So Kavanaugh, of course, joined the majority to block the changes.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: But he said, well, that's for the midterms because it's so close.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: But he might vote in favor of his little fascist daddy if the issue comes before him again.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: This is what he wrote.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Basically telling them, try again after the midterms and maybe we'll let you do it for 2028.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Go for it.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: He lost his fucking mind over this.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: He went on possibly the longest extended rant on social or whatever.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: It was a big fucking And he also, it is explicitly clear.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: That this was a huge loss for Republicans,
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: which is a really weird thing to say that people being able to vote legally is
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: a really bad thing for Republicans.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: But of course, he's not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: But he did.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Trump.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: The thing about this is that this was his last best shot at rigging the elections
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: without doing something really, really fucking over-the-top crazy.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: His only real options left now are having the FBI show up at
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: the fucking polling stations,
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: sending ICE to the polling stations,
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: and they do not have the manpower to do this properly.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: They don't have enough agents,
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: ICE and FBI combined,
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: to show up at enough polling stations in order to really fuck with the election.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: They just don't, especially considering how large this wave election is going to be.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, they might chase away some people.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're not going to chase away enough people.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And he's not going to be able to go to court afterwards and say,
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I want to throw out all the votes in all of these different districts and all
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: of these different elections because it's true.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's too much.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's the problem with rigging the midterms, which is why they generally
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Don't bother.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's easier to rig the presidential election because you just have to focus on the president.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: You can sort of tamper with the rest of it,
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: but you just have to focus on flipping one person's votes.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Not one person, but like the one name on the ballot, right?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Flip it from Harris to Trump.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's too difficult to flip all the rest.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's too complicated.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's too messy.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it becomes too obvious if you have all of these districts that were all one.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: We always talk about it has to be plausible.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not plausible that Republicans are at their moment.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Most unpopular in over 20 years suddenly won.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: They had to lose three seats and they somehow did it in a midterm
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: where everything's going badly for Republicans,
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: but somehow they won the popular vote.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: No one's going to believe that.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's going to look at it and say, well, you fucked with the vote tallies.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: We can all tell you fucked with the vote tallies.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: Republicans won in California.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: They won in New York.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: Of course they didn't.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone knows you fucked with the vote.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: We can all see that you didn't.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: And even this Supreme Court is not going to throw out millions of votes
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: to give Republicans wins in places where everybody knows that they lost.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: If they're not willing to do this,
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: they're not going to be willing to do that because they're trying to maintain.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, good luck to them.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Whew.
• 22:07
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• 22:10
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• 22:15
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• 22:20
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• 22:23
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• 22:28
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• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: And we have two college students.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Believe me, they're so expensive.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: We do.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: Good lordy.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they need money all the time or something.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Go on.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Let us move on to scenes from a crashing economy.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't done this in a bit, but oh boy, we need to talk about it.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: So economic kaboom is back on the menu, boys.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: If you have not been following Trump's stupid war in the Middle East,
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: the Houthis have shut down the Red Sea.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: And this is really, really They've seized the coastline.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: They've seized several islands in the Red Sea.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they have closed the—I'm not even going to try to pronounce the Strait over there.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's not as easy to say as the Strait of Hormuz.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's called the Strait of Tears,
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: which, you know, considering how much pain we're all about to be in, accurate.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, a little sidebar here.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Do not cheer the fucking Houthis.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they're causing lots of headaches for the Trump regime.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: That does not make them the fucking good guys.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: I wrote an article about this two years ago when the Houthis Houthis were starting
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: to step into the whole Israel-Gaza thing.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: They were starting to launch missiles at Israeli ships and trying to launch missiles at Israel.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: And people were cheering for the Houthis because they were...
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: They were taking on the colonial power and blah, blah, blah, because Israel's the bad guys.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: And yes, Israel were the bad guys, but the Houthis are modern-day slavers.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: They kidnap children, rape them, and then sell them into fucking sexual slavery.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: They also force them into child warfare.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: They use them.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: They have child soldiers, which universally we understand is a bad thing.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: We all get that.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: There is no, well, yeah, but.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: No, there is no well, but.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's fucked up.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: We've been bitching about that for decades when we started hearing
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: about it coming out of Africa.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: We don't fucking...
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: So child soldiers, slavery, pedophilia, we don't cheer for those pedophiles.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: Even if they're doing something that we approve of, they're still monsters.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: So don't cheer for the fucking Houthis, ever, under any circumstances.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay when both sides are equal.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, back to the economic boom that's coming.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: The Strategic Petroleum Reserve is now down to its lowest level since 1983
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: and they're still draining it.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: We are now getting up to the physical limit of what we're capable of pulling out
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: before the cave starts bucking because it's in big salt caverns
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: and you can't drain them completely or these salt caverns will collapse.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: So we're starting to get to that point.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because I didn't know that you taught me that.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I knew, I mean, I knew it was in caverns.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: I just didn't know that.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just assumed it's like, well, sure, but the caverns were there before we put stuff into it.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: So why couldn't we drain it?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, nope, that's not how it works.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: Once you fill that shit up,
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: if you drain it,
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: it will fucking start to cave in,
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: which will make What's left in there,
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: impossible or just really, really hard to get to.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: And the military does not want us to do that because if we need an emergency,
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: they need to be able to get to it.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: So we're starting to get down to the physical limit of what we can get to.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: But Trump is going to keep doing it because as soon as we stop pulling from
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve,
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: there's going to be a real hard spike in gas prices.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, I think gas hit...
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: What was it?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Diesel hits more than $6.31.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's $6.50 here.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: Naturally, it's the highest it's ever been in history.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Friday, last week, it hit $6 for the first time ever.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're up to $6.31.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just every day, it's just a new record.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're number one.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Trump is trying to blame Ukraine for that, but that's bullshit.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: That ain't That new increase didn't kick in until the Houthis shut down the Red Sea
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: because Saudi Arabia was pumping its oil.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Originally, it was sending it through the Strait of Hormuz, of course.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: But they had a pipeline built explicitly across their country so they could send it
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: through the Red Sea if the Strait of Hormuz was closed.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: They were thinking ahead.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, good for them.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: But now the Houthis have closed the other way that they could get the oil out.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: So now Saudi Arabia can't send out anything.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: And that was one of the ways that we were keeping the price of oil.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Saudi Arabia is the second or third largest population.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: So they were getting out a decent amount and enough to keep it from spiraling out of control.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now nothing's getting out.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: So now we're going to go back into that spiral.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yay.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: We're not going to run out of oil.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: We're not going to have no oil.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: We produce oil.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: And we can keep gas stations from just going dry here.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: But it is going to get increasingly more expensive.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: And now northern states are starting to run into colder weather,
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: which we talked about last week.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: The oil prices are going up, which means heating is about to go up.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, what?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: Which means people are going to die because they're not going to be able
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: to afford their gas at all.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be fucking crazy.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: And of course,
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: as Thierry points out,
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: Trump shut down all kinds of alternative energy projects already underway,
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: which means the things that we could have done to offset that problem,
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Trump got rid of them because...
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't like wind and blah, blah, blah.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: And he got paid a lot of money from fossil fuel companies to shut down green energy.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: So that means with diesel going so high, groceries are going to go up.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Everything else is going to go up because everything gets delivered on trucks
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: that run on diesel.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: Now, it's not clear that Kevin Warren...
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Warsh is going to actually obey his master or if he's going to do what Economics 101 demands.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: But either way, we're in for pain.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a matter of how much pain.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Are we going to be in interest rates going up pain,
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: which is what you have to do when inflation is up this high?
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: Or is he going to lower it because Trump told him to,
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: which is going to make things so much fucking worse?
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: And on top of all that,
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: we've got the Canadian tariffs are going to be kicking in
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: because Trump is still going after this fucking trade war with Canada because he's
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: a moron.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's just so weird to be fighting with Canada.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Now, the press keeps publishing.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: Trump says stories like Trump says the Strait of Hormuz is open and deal
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: with Iran is closed and the war is going to be over after the midterms
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: and trade deal with Canada is happening soon.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: But he says that.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: Constantly.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Non-stop.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: And nothing ever happens.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's a week later.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's still closed.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: There's no deal with Iran.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: And we're still fucking fighting with Canada.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's just market manipulation.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: Trump says he's going to give everyone $5,000 and a free unicorn and ice cream for life.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: And also, he's not a pedophile right now.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I want a free unicorn.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: I know, right?
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: We can buy it with our $5,000 check.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's coming right along with our tariff check and our...
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: The Doge check.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: The Doge are redid.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's all coming.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's all coming.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: He promises.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Only if I vote for Republicans, though.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: But only if you vote for Republicans.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, if it doesn't come, it's because the post office stopped it.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: So it's insane.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's fucking crazy.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: And he's just doing everything possible to wreck the economy.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: So good luck.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: And if you haven't been getting ready for it,
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: like we've been talking about for the last year and change,
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what to tell you.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: We told you this was coming and it's just going to get worse.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a lot to look forward to, right?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, so awesome.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, well,
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: while all that's happening,
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent continues to prove he's a clown,
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: which, you know, honestly, not hard to do.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: As the bond market repeatedly punches him in the face.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: There's a major sell-off of U.S.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: government bonds taking place that's causing borrowing costs to rise.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: And what happens when borrowing costs increase?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, that's right.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: American companies, households, financial markets, and the federal budget all feel the pain.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, on top of the gas prices and the inflation and all of the other things.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: So there was a time when foreign investors had a really big appetite for U.S. debt.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's because the bonds were considered safe.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: Not just safe, like permanent safe, like super safe.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: And while they didn't have a really large return,
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: they had a return,
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: and it was just stable,
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: and they knew that they could make money from it, so they bought it, right?
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well...
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Trump has changed all that by taking a sledgehammer to our economy and reputation.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: The massive increases in our deficit are also hurting us
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: because foreign investors are like, ooh, they have a lot of debt.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Do I really want to buy that?
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: So they're moving away from U.S. debt.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: They're also betting on the market or they're now like putting more money into
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: the stock market and into investments that are promising higher returns,
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: which is,
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: if you think about it,
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: it's interesting that they're moving away from the safe ones and putting their money
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: in stuff that could yield them nothing really in the long term, but whatever.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're less risky than the stock market now.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: How capable is that?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the shift proves that foreign investors aren't buying the bullshit that Bessett
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: and Trump have been selling the world,
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: really, about the American economy being the best in the whole wide world.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Look at it.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's growing.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's most amazing.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's the best it's ever been.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: James Turner,
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: the head of global fixed income for EMEA at BlackRock,
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: explained, quote, government bonds are not as risk-free as they used to be.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: With government deficits where they are,
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: if that was a corporate entity, you would not say that it was a risk-free situation.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you have a company that is on the verge of bankruptcy,
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: are you really going to buy their debt?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely fucking not.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: You're not going to get your money back.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: So what is Bessett's solution?
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: Lie through his teeth.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, well, kind of, that too.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: He told the press that we can just grow our way out of debt with consumer tax cuts,
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: investments in AI, and manufacturing.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: In other words,
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: he's a fucking moron who has the economic proudness of a three-year-old at
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: a candy store.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's going to be amazing.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: They're trying desperately to destroy the American dollar so they can replace it
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: with crypto, and that's not going to go the way they think it will.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: And just,
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: if you're watching us live right now,
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: sorry that my camera's off with Mr.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Florida Woman Tom, and I don't want him to wander onto the shower.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: So remember, if you haven't been paying attention, AI is going to kill us all.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're all doomed.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: The human race is going to get wiped out.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: Artificial intelligence is coming for us.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be Terminator.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: But not really.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: If you've watched or read the news at all for the last two weeks,
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: there's been a huge amount of panic in the media about this.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: But it's all bullshit.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I do think there is some reason to be concerned there.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Not the kind of hype that they're delivering.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Alright,
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: so they're talking about how AI is going to essentially become intelligent and
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: then turn on humans.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Substack, The Opinionated Ogre, opinionatedogre.com
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: Not because it's malicious or because, you know, it's like, oh, humans are a threat.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have to wipe out just because it's dumb because it's dumb.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like the fact that they want to put, you know, AI in charge of military weapons.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's insane that they're doing that because, oh,
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: I just launched a rocket at China because I malfunctioned because I'm
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: a badly programmed fucking AI.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: And now we're at war with China.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because of a badly programmed AI.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's way more likely than what they're talking about.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're also concerned because,
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: what is it,
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: Anthropic released a report that AI was being used to try
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: to develop biological weapons.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's a completely different problem.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: And they managed to stop it.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that that,
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: in concert with the other concerns is really what's caused the outrage in the media
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: or the...
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: But what they're doing right now is they're begging the government for regulations.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, please make us stop.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty please.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: We, an industry literally run by people famous for embracing fascism because we're
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: so violently opposed to the rule of law, suddenly want government oversight.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Honest.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: We really want that.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is bullshit.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: There's two things going on here.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: One, they want control of the government oversight.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want actual government oversight because
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: if there's actual government oversight,
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: the government will tell them to stop doing things they don't want to stop doing.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: So they want to be in control.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: If you look at the things that they're proposing,
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: it's third party regulation, but they're in control of the third party.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not really third party.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's them being, they want to regulate.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: That always works.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: And make believe it's the government regulating them.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: And what they also want is they want antitrust regulation so they can conspire
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: among themselves in order to basically run the market and
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: then make themselves all very, very rich and even more powerful.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: But what they really want is full government buy it.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because their entire business model is a Ponzi scheme.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: We've talked about this.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: They're spending trillions of dollars and they're only making billions in revenue.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: And we're not talking hundreds of billions.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking tens of billions.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: And they're spending trillions on hardware.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: And there's no possibility of them making this money back,
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: which means the bubble's going to pop.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: And what they want is full government buy-in.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: So when the bubble pops, the government will say, oh, man, it's just too big to fail.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: And now we have to have a trillion dollar bailout for the AI companies.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: It just,
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: if you think about it, really, that's how Republicans operate at every single level.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Trump building the White House ballroom.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, let's build it until they can't.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: They have to let it continue.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: It can't fail, right?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: The banks, fucking AI.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's what they do every time.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's just they destroy everything.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then, well...
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Man, we wish we could just not have to do it, but we need all of your money.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: Give it to us now.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right, because as we've talked about on this podcast before,
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: AI is what's artificially propping up the economy right now,
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: so that's what they'll use.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's really important to understand that Trump has hundreds of millions,
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: if not millions, Literally billions of dollars of his money tied up in AI.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't he call him Golden Goose?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's why he's out there screaming that we don't need regulation.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's why data centers are awesome and he's pro-flock cameras.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: And no, AI isn't dangerous.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's all a hoax.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: His stock portfolio is 30% to 35% AI,
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: and he stands to lose a ton of fucking money if that stock
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: and his crypto become worthless.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: So he's getting in the way of anything right now.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: And this is why presidents and congresspeople shouldn't have stock in
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: the companies they're supposed to regulate by.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: Don't worry.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure the Supreme Court will say this.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm personally looking forward to when they pass regulation and then
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: the Supreme Court says, well, actually, we understand AI better than Congress does.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: So we're going to say no to every regulation because our billionaire owners told us no.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Ugh.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Just, just incredible.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, which, well,
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: Timmy says the increase in the stock market is based
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: on extremely over-leveraged AI industry.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, we are.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to end up bailing out the motherfucking billionaires.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what they're trying to do.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be, wow.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's going to be good times for us.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, very exciting.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, on to headlines for short attention spans.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: Headlines for short attention spans.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: So guess what, guys?
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: You're going to be totally shocked to learn that the very,
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: very rich Donald Trump Jr.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: and his equally rich new wife,
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: whose name I can't remember or care to learn,
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: had their post-wedding celebrations paid for by a very dear friend
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: of Vladimir Putin's, Russian oligarch, Umar Kremlin.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: His name sounds like Kremlin.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Jesus Christ, could you think it's any more fucking obvious stuff?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: And when I say that Donald Trump Jr.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: is very rich, I mean that his net worth is upwards of $200 million.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: So this is not a person who needs anything paid for.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: ProPublica is the ones who let the cat out of the bag this week.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: Jr.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: later confirmed the reporting by thanking the Russian oligarch for hosting two days
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: of partying that spanned multiple islands in the Bahamas.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Daddy Trump's response was basically, who cares?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: My baby boy can accept all the gifts he wants from foreign billionaires.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's totally ethical.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: And the Russians weren't trying to buy access at all.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: They already own me.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: But in all seriousness,
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: he did really say he was just getting a gift and he's not in the government.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: So the media is reporting this news,
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: but with none of the enthusiasm that it reported the unfounded allegations
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: against Hunter Biden.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I would have checked to see what Hunter Biden is saying about all this.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure he's got some spicy retorts there.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because Hunter Biden has called out the little boy Trumps before because they have
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: a club in Washington,
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: D.C. where you have to pay like $100,000 to be a member of the club.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: And they literally advertise being close to the Trump regime with this membership.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I remember he had shit to say about that.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they're actually selling access all the time.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: Republicans in Congress have not launched investigations.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: And in fact,
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: when Bug Eyes was asked about it yesterday,
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: Ricky was like,
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: oh, we're going to do what the FBI always does when it gets information.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: We will analyze it.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sure you will.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: And Todd Blanchard's like, what am I supposed to investigate?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Investigate what?
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: And nobody's trying to arrest Junior and his new wife.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing to see here.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: Totally normal.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: You'll also be shocked to learn that Daddy Donald is now calling on Ukraine
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: to stop bombing Russian oil refineries.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: We're pretty sure it has nothing to do with the untold amount of money
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: that his family has received from the Russian oligarch and Putin.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: And, of course, the media is not trying to connect those dots either.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because if your name's not Biden, who cares, right?
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: They're un-fucking-believable.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Un-fucking-believable.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: For years,
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: for years,
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: it was nothing but Hunter Biden's laptop,
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: Hunter Biden's laptop, Hunter Biden's laptop.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just the appearance, the appearance of impropriety for Hunter Biden.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: And they did the same thing with Clinton.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: Just the appearance of impropriety.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Just the appearance of, you know, just something untoward.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: Just the appearance was enough to hang out.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: And now they're like, well, what are you going to do?
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's not in the...
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't work for the government.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: Of course,
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: when Jerry Kushner worked for the government and he got billions of dollars
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: in contracts with foreign nations, that didn't matter either.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_01: They do not hold Republicans to a lower set of standards.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: No standards whatsoever.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot happening outside of your house right now.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's weird.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's lawnmowers having a gang fight out there.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: So Joe Manchin has endorsed Susan Collins,
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: thus confirming our opinion that he is a piece of shit.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: The spineless former Democrat called Maine's Republican Senate candidate the soul of the Senate.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess that's true if soul means voting against And continuing today's theme
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: of Democrats licking the boots of Republicans,
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: John Fetterman recorded a video to be played
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: at Trump's fascist kickstop convention last week,
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: thus guaranteeing he is going to be primary.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: And let's be super fucking clear about this.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: When Republicans lose control of the Senate next year and Fetterman leaves
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_01: the party, first,
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: fuck him,
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: because we're going to have at least a 52-seat majority,
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: so nothing of value will be lost.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: And second, he should be investigated.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: And when they find the bribes,
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: because there's definitely fucking bribes involved, he should be fucking arrested.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: Because the Supreme Court hasn't made it that legal yet.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yet the Oh,
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: and also I found out last night,
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: I've been putting notes, but Fetterman went off to a Fox News retreat in Colorado.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he went and hung out with the Fox News guy.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_01: So clearly, you know, he's going
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: to be.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: I am shocked.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: After he leaves the Senate in two years, you know where he's going to end up.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: He'll be on there.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: He'll be on Fox News going, oh, I didn't leave the left.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: The left left me.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: That sort of bullshit.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: I really do
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: think the stroke
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: fucked up his brain.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure they're going to milk that for everything they can.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_01: He'll just be out there bashing Democrats for years.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's unfortunate, too.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: So the Kennedy Center is almost certainly closing.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: Trump and his flunkies have completely looted it.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: Fired everyone that actually gave a fuck about it and then drove away all of
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: the acts and donors and theater patrons who weren't MAGA fuckstick.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: Now the world-famous Center for Performing Arts is bankrupt and the regime is
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_00: so very sad that they'll have to close it down.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Unless Donald Trump is allowed to put his name on it.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yes, Trump's gonna swing to the rescue.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: Which bitch?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: By the way,
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: Kennedy Center was totally healthy and financially stable in 2023,
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: but now all of a sudden it is not financially stable.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so she's muted at the moment, so I'm going to keep going.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: So no more Kennedy Center until the fascists are gone
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: because what fascists cannot control, they destroy.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: We just have to hope they don't level the fucking building or deliberately do
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: And honestly,
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_01: we're going to bet you a shiny nickel that it won't matter what they do to it
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: because artists and millionaires who are fascist fucksticks are going
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: to come crawling out of the woodwork to raise as much money as needed to restore it.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: The Kennedy Center is beloved and people are going to want it back at the very least
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: as a fuck you to Trump and the fascist.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: Can I just say that I got muted because I was trying to wipe cat hair off of
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: the keyboard and apparently I hit the M.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was wondering, I guess something happened.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: So Trump's big,
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: important and very serious conspiracy probe is falling apart
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: because he can't find anything and their lead investigator quit.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_01: This is from CNN.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't remember that this whole big conspiracy probe is going That's
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: because nothing's happening.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was all bullshit in the first place.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: The Justice Department's push to pursue a sweeping conspiracy probe
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: into former officials
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: behind investigations targeting President Donald Trump has ascended into turmoil,
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: shocking,
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: and possibly new to blaze following the abrupt resignation of
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: the top prosecutor overseeing the probe.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: Remember,
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: this is the thing where they were trying to invent a grand conspiracy
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: where everyone was out to get Donald Trump.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: They were fabricating evidence and yada,
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: yada, yada because Trump had committed all these crimes.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: And he was being prosecuted for them.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: So therefore, it was a huge conspiracy.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: Joe DiGenova,
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: the Washington lawyer and former top prosecutor leading
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: the South Florida-based investigation.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: The final clash centered on DeGenova's effort to block lawyers dispatched
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: by Justice Department headquarters from assisting the
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: According to the report,
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: one of the issues is that DeGenova expects the federal government to build a skit
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: for him at his office.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: The DOJ told him to take his lazy ass to an FBI office a few miles away.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's basically what Trump never bothered.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: He also claimed he needed more attorneys, but had his request denied.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: With D. Genova gone, Trump officials concerned there could be more delays.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile,
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: career prosecutors are concerned about a lack of evidence
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: against Trump's political enemies.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: They can't find anything.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason they're trying to make this into a conspiracy is because it extends
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: the statute of limitations when it's a conspiracy,
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: because it's way past five years at this point,
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: and they're not going to find anything because they're It's not a conspiracy
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: when your president is a fucking criminal and he was charged with crimes of
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: which there is a pile of evidence literally 10 feet tall from the box he had stashed
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: in his goddamn bathroom.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let us wrap up headlines with some good news here.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: Democrats are planning to train almost 100,000 volunteers to watch
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: and document Republican election interference.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: The initiative is called the New Battlefield Project.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: It will be run by the Associates The volunteers will wear blue vests,
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: so voters will be able to distinguish them from the ones wearing camouflage
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: and carrying guns.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, seriously.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: They'll be able to distinguish them from the other poll watchers and federal agents, which
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_01: FBI and ICE are not allowed to be there,
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: but the people running those organizations,
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Mark Wayne Mullen and Kash Patel,
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: won't rule out sending agents into the polling system.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, in case they have to do their jobs there, which is bullshit.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: They know they won't have to do that.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: But they're threatening to do it anyway because the goal is to disrupt voting.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: We've already had complaints from Republicans.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was in Nebraska.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: That Trump had poll watchers,
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: poll watchers,
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: and they were harassing people,
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: and they were harassing people so aggressively
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: that Republicans were getting pissed off
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: because state Republicans don't like having their decisions.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: The results of their elections question.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, we're doing our jobs.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, this is a red state.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want someone coming in there telling them you're fucking around
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: with your elections because
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: that makes them look like they're rigging their elections and they don't like that.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: And this is really important that we have our people there watching,
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: like being very, very obvious that they're watching because Republicans are cowards.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: If they know someone is documenting their lawlessness, they're less like I don't know.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: So, if they know people are watching that and taking pictures of them
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: and definitely fucking taking video of them harassing them,
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: they're not going to be the same.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're not going to be the same.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: Harassing people.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: These are state crimes.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: Trump can't pardon them.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: They're not protected.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: So they're going to be much more likely to keep their shit under control and not be
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: the lawless fucking fascists they desperately want to be.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: Now, the downside of this is that Democrats should have started doing this months ago.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: They should have started this like five months ago, minimum, and had this ready to go.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully they'll meet their goal.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: You want to take the next one since I took yours?
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: Not really.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, because you know that one.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even bother to read it earlier.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Trump continues to work extra hard to make sure Democrats are going to win
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: the midterms by pissing off literally everyone.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mentioned this earlier,
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: but in addition to fully supporting Having data centers,
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: something his base deeply opposes, Trump is now a huge fan of clock cameras.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's so weird.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: It is, but it's something else his base deeply opposes.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: Quote, I sort of like him because of that,
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: you know, because of law enforcement, Trump said, but some people don't.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: They think it's an infringement.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: Trump supports them because it's an AI billionaire company
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_01: and they're paying him fucking money.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'll bet you money he's got fucking stock in it.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Of course he supports it.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: Also, hasn't immigration been using flat cameras to target immigrants across the country?
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: I will not doubt it.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_01: I will not fucking
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: doubt it.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's been a huge, huge,
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: huge problem that they're using the license plates readers across the country
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: to target immigrants.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: But they've also been abusing the shit out of it.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean,
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: the cops have been using it to spy on girlfriends and to spy on women
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: because they're creeps.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_01: But so they've been abusing the absolute fucking shit out of it.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it's no one likes them.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: The left doesn't like them because privacy.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: The right doesn't like them because privacy.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is one of those few things that we both sides don't like it for literally
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: the exact same reason.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: Data centers and flop cameras.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: We're together here.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're united.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's weird because we all hate them for mostly the same exact reasons.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: Even right-wing people will be like,
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: They'll tell you it's really bad for the environment,
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: but not in a big global climate change sort of way,
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: but in a local, I have to breathe this fucking air that this shit is polluting.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's sucking up all the water that I use in my fucking home.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's loud.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it's noise pollution, too.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's literally we're all talking about the same thing in the same way.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, well, yeah, they're right.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: Those guys over there, they're right, too.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter if they're fucking hippies.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, it doesn't matter if they're MAGA.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: We're all complaining about the same fucking thing in the same way.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: But that's why Trump is starting to talk about it.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: And you see the right wing trying to sell data centers to people because,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: I've talked about this before,
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: but I worked for a conservative and bipartisan news site during COVID.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: And at first they were all very like, Oh, you know, spray your groceries, do all of this.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_00: They were telling people to do things that are,
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: the conservative sites were telling people to do things to keep safe.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_00: But then as soon as the right-wing talking heads started,
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: like, pushing the anti-COVID message, everybody followed.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody started pushing it.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then you saw the base go, oh, oh, this is nothing to be scared of.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: Let's take ivermectin.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know that's going to work with this, though.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_00: You would have thought that it wouldn't have worked with a global pandemic
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: that was killing 100,000 people.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they already distrust large companies and AI is fucking,
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_01: AI is taking away jobs and AI is fucking, like,
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: you can go into a community and say,
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: yeah, this fucking data set is fucking up my home.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be hard to convince people that AI is good for their home.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: I guess, but their family was dying.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: I guess,
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: but their family members were literally dying and they were able to be convinced
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_00: that COVID was not as bad as we said it was.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_01: So we're going
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: to see.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: We'll have to see.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: I have no faith in that.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_01: And definitely the privacy thing is like,
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_01: it's like, yeah,
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: what happens if a Democrat's in office and they have access to all
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_01: the flat cameras now?
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_01: Are you still going to be in favor of that?
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_01: Of course not.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: Neither would we, right?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_01: But Trump is just out there going,
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_01: oh, no, I love this stuff, while his base is really fucking mad about it.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: There's Republicans, elected officials right now.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: Florida and Texas are like, hey, maybe let's dial it back a bit with the flock cameras.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, my county banned them.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, Greg Abbott came out.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_01: Was it Greg Abbott or was it Ken Paxton?
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_01: It might have been both of them were like, hey, maybe block cameras aren't such a great thing.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's how big of a deal it is on the right at the moment.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_01: And Trump is still out there going, woo, block cameras.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: I love them.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: what's also funny is that Byron Donald,
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: the guy who's running for governor in Florida, is a big pro data center guy.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody is talking about how we don't want Byron Donald's a New Yorker
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: because he likes data centers.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_00: Both sides of the aisle are calling him data center Donald.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Political savants.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_01: They're just political savants, man.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: They're right on the pulse.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right on the pulse of the people.
• 59:01
  It is crazy.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: There was something, there was something, oh, you know what it was?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Just really quickly.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I was in the, this is totally like just a funny story about my area.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_00: I was just scrolling on Facebook this morning when I woke up and I saw a post
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: from like a veteran.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, oh,
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was driving through such and such mobile home park and I saw this flag upside down
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: and, oh, fuck.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't like it, get out.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: We're not in distress and everybody in the comments,
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean like there might have been like three and there was
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: a hundred comments talking about how our country is in distress.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: I have never seen so many people in my life.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_00: I am the
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_00: first to tell you that anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything,
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: but I have never seen so many people in my community unite together and be like,
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: hey, no, this really sucks.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_00: Have you seen the state of America?
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, Trump has completely lost the confidence of his own base.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: They don't think the economy is doing well.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: And when Republicans look at the economy under a Republican president and say,
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: no, the economy sucks, that's a problem.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because as long as it's a Democrat in office, Republicans think the economy is terrible.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_01: But as soon as the president,
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: Republicans in office, they're like, no, the economy is the best it's ever been.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: If they're saying now the economy is terrible, that's a really fucking bad sign for Republicans.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: So good luck.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if Trump is invested in flat cameras.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't doubt it.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: Anything,
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: anything that,
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: especially if there's like federal contracts involved,
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_01: he's putting money into it because he knows there's going to be a federal contract
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: because he'll just tell them to do it.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, on to self-care of the week.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: On Sunday, my best friend came over and we watched the Bills beat the Texans.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is because I believed.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like all Bills games,
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_00: my mental health was questionable throughout the first, well, all the quarters.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: How many quarters are there in a football game?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's so funny because I text him and I said, what did I say?
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love it when the game comes down to 16 seconds.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's do or die in the last 16 seconds.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then she didn't tell me how it ended because I didn't look it up.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I was just like, I wonder how that game ended.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't send me a text back going, no.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I don't know.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: I guess it didn't end badly.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was just,
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: I was pacing the living room watching the last drive and then I started screaming.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: So that was fun.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_00: On Thursday is our first home game at our new stadium that cost New York taxpayers
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: a billion dollars.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: But guys, it's a nice stadium.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's got to be if it's brand new.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_00: Did they build it so that there's literally staircases blocking the view of some of the seats?
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_00: I guess.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully they fix it.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_00: But we're playing the Lions and fingers crossed that we're going to whoop Eminem's ass.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's his team.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: I also said goodbye to my friend Jennifer this week.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_00: She, I mean, I guess I'll see you later.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_00: She's moving up to New York to like the Buffalo area.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like I'm never going to see her because obviously I go up there.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: But it is very sad for me.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_00: I am as sad as my Lexapro will allow me to be.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because she has been with me for every single major life,
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_00: from my father being murdered to my last child being born.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, everything in between, she's been there still.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was pretty sad for me.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, I'm dealing with it.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_00: So anyways, what have you been up to?
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: My week's been less stressful than yours, apparently.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_01: So Anastasia's decided that in December she wants to see Avengers Doomsday.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: But she has not watched any of the Marvel movies.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_01: Except for the Spider-Man movies.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: She's watched the Spider-Man movies.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_01: So now she's working her way through almost 20 years of Marvel movies.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: And we've watched Iron Man, Captain America, and Incredible Hulk.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: My son did that, like the big one.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: Not this, like two summers ago, he did it.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: They watched all of the Marvel movies.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember why, something was coming out.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what we're doing now.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: So next up is Iron Man 2 and then Thor.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: We're making slow progress because we don't watch them every day.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I think we'll make it through Endgame by Thanksgiving.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then we just need to watch a handful of movies because you don't have
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: to watch everything in the next set, like the multiverse stuff.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to watch all of those.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me, what are the Marvel movies?
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think that's the franchise that I like.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_00: Is that what X-Men is in?
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_00: X-Men?
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yes, X-Men is Marvel, but it's not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, but so I've seen
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_00: Iron Man.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_00: I really like Iron Man.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: Iron Man's good, but I don't think I've seen the last one because doesn't he die?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was Avengers.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: That was the Avengers endgame.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: He dies in that one.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so yes, Iron Man dies in that one, right?
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I haven't seen.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I really like Iron Man.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think Captain America was good.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think I saw the first Incredible Hulk.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's only been one.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's been two Hulk movies.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: There was one, like, I don't know, early 2000s, and it was terrible.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then there was the Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I think I saw the one in the early 2000s.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: Who was in that?
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_01: Did it have...
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't tell you.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: Was he fighting tanks in the desert?
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember, to be honest with you, but it was a long time ago, but my kid is a Marvel kid.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_00: I have pictures of him when he was little wearing the costumes.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_00: So he's always him.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's always been into that.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so that's really exciting because I actually like all of those movies.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know that I tease you for being a nerd, but all of those are so fucking good.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm having a great time re-watching them with her because,
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: we talk about it and I tell her this and the other and I keep telling her,
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: it's like,
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_01: you have to keep that in mind,
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_01: keep this in mind because they're going to get back to it in like six movies.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_00: I guess I just didn't understand that there's like a Marvel universe
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: that didn't include the one of those certain...
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the X-Men movie.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't realize that it was...
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_00: So when I thought of the Marvel Universe, I thought it was just all of the Marvel movies.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they...
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_01: The specific number of Marvel movies?
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_01: They're part of it now.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to be in the Doomsday.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: Those X-Men will be in Doomsday.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so they kind of like...
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like all the separate movies, and then eventually they mix them together.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because now Disney... Because they're part of the universe, I get it.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right, Disney owns the rights to all of that now, so they bought them in.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: Man, I fucking love the X-Men movies.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were fun.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: They were a lot of fun.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_01: Now, in other family news, Lila was in again this weekend.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yay!
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_01: They were supposed to go to the Renaissance Fair,
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_01: but Claudia hurt her foot,
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_01: and a Renaissance Fair is all walking,
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_01: and it's not flat in the evening ground,
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_01: so she was like, yeah, we're not doing that.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, how'd she hurt her foot?
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, she's having foot problems,
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_01: and she kind of not exactly twisted her ankle at work,
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_01: which just made it worse,
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_01: but she did something at work,
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_01: and she was like, yeah, I'm not going to be able to walk
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: around a fret bear all day.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: That sucks.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she passed.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_01: But we did get to,
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_01: me and Mrs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ogre made breakfast to everyone on Sunday, bacon,
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  SPEAKER_01: sausage,
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  SPEAKER_01: fully loaded scrambled eggs and chocolate pancakes or chocolate chip pancakes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we all sat around as a family and we ate and chatted for about 90 minutes.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it was nice because we haven't been able to get together as a family for a while.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Mrs. Ogre had minor surgery on Tuesday, so it was nice for her to have the family together.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_01: So that helped.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_01: But she's home for the next three weeks,
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: so I'm not going to be writing as much while she's recovering.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't anything serious,
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  SPEAKER_01: and she's fine,
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: but she's home,
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  SPEAKER_01: so I'm going to be spending time with her instead of writing and posting all day.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_01: We're still going to be doing the podcast,
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_01: but I'll be back to my regular schedule in early October.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_01: But otherwise, everything is hunky-dory and everything's fine.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's nice for you guys to spend
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_01: some quality time together.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're binge-watching Heroes on Netflix.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we've seen it, but now we're going to watch the entire thing back-to-back.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know,
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: I watched that show when it came out,
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_00: so that's why it was so sad when Hayden...
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, that's the only thing I know her from.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't watch any of the other shows she was on.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, you know what?
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck it.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's time to re-watch this.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I listened to her last interview with Jay Shetty.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know who Jay Shetty is.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_00: He's a podcast host.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was just so sad.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you could tell like that her mental health just was so bad.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: we haven't talked about this on the show,
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: but Hayden talked a lot about postpartum depression.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: And we haven't talked about like the Lindsay Glancy trial on our show.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I really do think that People need to start paying more attention to
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_00: the mental health of women post-pregnancy.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of people think that you have a baby and then six weeks later, you're fine.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_00: But sometimes people are depressed for years.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_00: I was never depressed.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you that I was never depressed.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_00: I never suffered depression in my life until after I had my second son.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_00: And now, seven years later, I'm still fighting it.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a rant for another day, but do better, people.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's not like...
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_01: The thing that always struck me about that,
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: once I understood that depression was not necessarily a,
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: things are bad in my life and I feel bad, it was a chemical imbalance.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_01: Once I understood that, it was like, Why are people such dicks about it?
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_01: Why are people like, oh, just shrug it off.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: But it's a chemical imbalance.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like, oh, I just have to work my way through it.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, no.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's different That was situational depression.
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  SPEAKER_01: As opposed to the chemical imbalance kind where it's like, it doesn't matter.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like everything in your life could be perfectly normal and great even.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you're still going to be depressed because your brain is chemically imbalanced.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's not a you think.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_01: A literal chemical imbalance.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_01: If you had low blood pressure or high blood pressure,
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: no one's going to look at you and say, well, just change your blood pressure.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, that's not how that fucking works.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_01: You can't just alter your body chemistry.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's not how it works.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: I really think that as people start to learn more about health...
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully that'll break through more because like I said,
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_00: I never suffered depression in my life.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even think that I was depressed last year when I was diagnosed.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that I just had anxiety.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then I scored really high on the depression test that you have to take.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, I never even considered depression.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was just anxiety, that I was just anxious about immigration and
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_00: And moving to my mom's, my uncle having cancer and everybody in my life dying.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_01: I thought I was just
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: anxious.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: But now that I think about it,
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know, I suffered from postpartum depression after Nathan was born.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that it was a result of my birth control.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_00: I had a neck split on implant.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: I had my doctor take out my implant and then I seemed fine.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_00: But as I think back and I'm like, was I really fine?
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you just think
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_01: you were.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_01: So you were ignoring the symptoms.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think I was just ignoring the symptoms.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_00: So...
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know,
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_00: people think that, like,
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: when we have children,
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_00: that we can just snap out of it if you deal with postpartum depression.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I really do think that it becomes chronic depression in a lot of cases.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't talk about it enough.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's because it affects women.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_01: If it affected men, then we will.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm such a happy, like, person in general.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm always making jokes and whatever.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: And women are like that.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: We mask it well.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like cats.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_00: But you're right,
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: I just never,
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: if I never thought about that,
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_00: you know, imagine how many people also don't see it, so.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_00: LaFlex approach.
• 1:11:44
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