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😎 Summer House-The Aftermath: Amanda and West Finally Speak...kinda & Lindsay is Ready to Host a Reunion · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling, drama, Darling.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back in you guys. It's drama Darling, and
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: we are talking about the aftermath of Summerhouse, not the
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: after sun. It's not an after glow, and in fact,
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: it is not even after dark. Deanna and I are
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: here in regular hours. I can't believe it. So welcome in,
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Deanna Chang.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: How do you do? Oh? I do great? Great, great, great,
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: great episode. Yeah, great to see here, great to chat
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: with the darlings.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm so happy that we can, you know,
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  Speaker 2: bring this to an end with fresh faces on. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: in the daylight, you know. Yeah, where we belong, Yeah,
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: where we belong.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Welcome in. So much to discuss, and I'm happy to
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: put this aftermath, just bury it deep in the ground
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: and right and just watch it all unfold later on
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: down the line, when we all know that West and
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: Amanda will break up and then Amanda will come to
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: her well, let's just say say she comes to her
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  Speaker 2: senses and she looks back on this and realizes that
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: she was in the cult of West among many other women,
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: and is leading a recovery group, you know, for all
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: of West's girlfriends. So that's where I hope it ends up,
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: and I hope Amanda ends up finding the love for
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: herself that Lindsay was very was given her that tough
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: love pep talk that only Lindsay could do. Which let's
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: talk about the first one on one, which is Amanda
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: over Lindsay's for four bottles of Rosey.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great.
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  Speaker 2: That was great. It was It was a frank and
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  Speaker 2: honest great. Just push off to this episode, happy to
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: see Amanda was with us, with us on planet Earth
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: and had things to say and the things that she
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: said we were hoping for in the reunion right and
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: completely makes sense to me. It's what we all imagined
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: it would be. It's just the lingering question is, but
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: why did you make that decision knowing about Sierra and
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: that she doesn't have and there's no excuse other than
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: utter selfishness, which I'm glad she said.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to hear the word.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to hear that accountability just a hint of it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just a sprinkle.
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  Speaker 1: Sprinkling, a dusting. Yeah, it was dusting.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a big scoop, no double scoop, not even
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: on scoop.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't get the sort of introspection of or the
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: just not the introspection, but the you know, yes, I
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: sat with Sierra for many many moons and discussed this man,
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: and it was insane for me to make this choice.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: No way like she did. Right, she can't say that,
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: which it would be nice.
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  Speaker 2: To hear, it would be nice to hear. But in
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: her mind even right like well as we're talking about
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: then in that moment, see, she thinks that she's different
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: than everybody. And that's the problem. Is that when you
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: think that you can change somebody, it's the age old problem,
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a tale as old as time
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  Speaker 2: when men and women think that they can change someone
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  Speaker 2: because they're different from so many other people. Oh I'm different,
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  Speaker 2: And so West is clearly going to wake up, want
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: to have a relationship, commit, settle down, and have kids.
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  Speaker 2: Like she thinks that that is what is going to happen. Honestly,
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: she does think that she's the one that's going to
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  Speaker 2: change that.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: I felt like when I felt like when the question
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: was posed about like how where is this going? You know,
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: do you have you had those conversations, I felt like
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: she was sort of testing him you know, like, this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be really bad for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you better be ready to kid's marriage. Kid's married, right, right,
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: get a ring on this.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So when you do this, it's going to
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: be a joint. And then you have to be in
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  Speaker 1: the joint with me, and you have to you know,
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  Speaker 1: without the actual relationship indicating those things.
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  Speaker 2: And West does what he always does, which is what
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: we learned he with Miha, which is that he can agree.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm hearing. I'm hearing you. I'm hearing that
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  Speaker 2: that's what you want. And I'm saying that I love
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  Speaker 2: you now, so whatever that means. And also, you know,
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  Speaker 2: come Christmas time, I'm not gonna go meet your parents
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  Speaker 2: because that's not where our relationship is. So buckle up,
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  Speaker 2: that's coming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're going to understand where I am coming
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: from through the small spots where I choose to not engage,
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  Speaker 1: like going with the parents, like not bringing you back
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  Speaker 1: to my apartment one night, like you know, these are
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  Speaker 1: the ways I am shuaranting you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is how I communicate. This is
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  Speaker 2: my not love, non love language. This is the way
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  Speaker 2: I show you that it's not actual love. And in
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: that conversation with Kyle when West was there, he said
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: to answer the question do you love her? And then
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: also are you in love with her? Those being two
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  Speaker 2: very separate things, and West was very clear that he's
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: not at this point in love with her. What the
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  Speaker 2: actual was that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's he is ooh definition fuck boy, Like
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: put it in the dictionary, put his face next to it,
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: because it is hard to navigate someone that slippery. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: even within the conversation with Kyle, even with the dog,
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: I mean the dog and deserves a lot of time,
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: you know, in recap, because yes, what discuss dog.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to dog corner. I think its name is Reese.
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I think that may be right.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: What a cute little puff. But unfortunately, you know, an eyewitness,
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  Speaker 2: and it reminded.
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  Speaker 1: Me goddamn right, goddamn witness. Remember sitting there on the
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: jewey It's.
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  Speaker 2: With its belly up, you know, like come on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And it reminded me so much of the scandival situation
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  Speaker 2: because remember when Sandoval went over to Rachel's house and
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: her dog was like you know, yeah.
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: The dogs are so important. And it was second one
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: where literally one second in We see the dog's reaction
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  Speaker 1: to West, and we see a lie come out of
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  Speaker 1: his face because Kyle's like, you've been here in my
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  Speaker 1: home home.
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  Speaker 2: This dog with knows you very well, very well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: quite well, like it new to jump up to the
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  Speaker 2: left pocket because that's where you have the treats. You're
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: cheating treats, your cheating treats.
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  Speaker 1: Cheating little mask, nasty treat dust because I know you
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: don't shower, and I know you don't clean those clothes correctly,
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: like correctly, that little ever things in there. Think you
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: want to shout anything out, He doesn't know how to
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: do that. You think you're gonna soak something please, And
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: a lie right to Kyle's face, and then the nerve
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  Speaker 1: to say, seconds later, do you want me to be
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Can you handle me being completely honest? Can you handle it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Jack Nicholson. You're not a few good men. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: you're not even a man. You're just one fucking fuck
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: boy dude who is not fighting for our country. You know,
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: well hold on, let me take that back flip side.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: I will say he's kind of fighting for our country.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: We are so entertained by this. We America right now
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  Speaker 2: all eyes are on this scandal, and so I will say,
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: you know, happy two hundred and fiftieth to our country,
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: and you know, thank you to all the reality stars
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  Speaker 2: out there, great not so great villains alike that keep
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: our eyes on the prize, because really, you know, it
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: is h Lindsay is winning from this, Carl is winning,
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  Speaker 2: Kyle is winning. Everybody, but the scandalous couple themselves is
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: winning hard.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: Sierra.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that they should, don't get me wrong,
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: they absolutely should. But let's take a moment of silence
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: for the two fallen ones in this scenario.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: The two fallen soldiers. Yeah, so they think in a moment,
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: you know, although I think Amanda's gonna be as per Lindsey,
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: like Lindsay's the producer ultimately, like she's producing the show. Hmmm.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, Can I just take piggyback on that, because
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: you just gave me such the idea, and I bet
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: you other people have had this too, where she is
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: poised for a hosting job on Bravo, Like I could
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: actually see her, you know, takeing a reunion or two
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: maybe not maybe not Housewives, No, not Housewives?
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Why not? But why not? Why not?
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: But like anything you know, southern charm. Well, no, I
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: don't want no, no, hold on, let me just take
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: this back maybe, but anything anything like below deck.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: Vander Pump rules below deck. Yes, give her Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to see it. Give her
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. Let's stir it up. Look man handled that
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: reunion at the end. She man handled it. She did.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: She's like, I didn't learn a thing, and and she
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: and she said, bring the reunion to my living room. Yeah,
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: And I stood straight in the front of my hair,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: the back curly, bring it on over. It's gonna be
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: that's mom hair, that's new baby mom hair. I couldn't
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: believe it.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: I said, Wow, you can only do so much. You know,
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: she's running around cleaning. But you know, also, I bet
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: you she probably did have something to do with the aftermath,
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: being like, this is ridiculous. We've got to get these
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: people to talk.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: So, getting back to your point, Lindsay is like the producer.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: And so Amanda's over there and she's leading her down
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  Speaker 2: the right path of you know, accountability, right.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: And I think she's opening what's in your hand? Amy?
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for asking this is a this is
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: a cat pen um dead. It's it was actually the
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: one of the prizes in my daughter's little book birthday.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Take away at that takeaways. There's another word for it
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: that we're not coming up with, gift bag, swag bag,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: gift bag party favorite. Thank you.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I just only planned the entire thing.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: But yes, isn't it adorable? It's so cute.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: I have a bunch of is that a tool? Is
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: a dental tool?
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: Sorry, fixing my glasses? Like, what's happening? Thank you for asking?
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so wait we were just saying before. Okay,
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: so I oh, this is what I wondered. If Lindsey
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: was like, listen, it will be interesting to have Amanda
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: back on Summer House because she is single. She has fallen,
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: you know, she's a fallen soldier, Like can we get
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: her back on right? And the only way to do that,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: which she said plainly, is like full accountability. And so
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Lindsay's got her eye on that. Back
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: she was about she would have given birth in the
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: house need if it need be.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: That's probably why she's even more upset now. They didn't
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: pick up cameras for that. Although wait, I'm trying to
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: think in this city, did she already had the baby
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: by then? Okay, yeah, you're not wrong about the eye
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: in the bag, because you know how everything is out
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: there right now in present time about Lindsey, you know,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: putting out on social media. West has tried to threaten
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: my career three times. And she listed the three times
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: and like, one of them was totally legit, the second
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: one was like, okay, I could see you could twist
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: it into that third one was really a reach, and
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: it just made me laugh so hard. But the point
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: of it is is that, like you said, she wants
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: this show to work, and she feels that West really
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: threatened her career because he broke up the entire friendship
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: group because of what he did, and therefore here we
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: are now. She also said that well, by the way,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: West has been fired from Summerhouse, and it's come out
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: in page six. This was all over the news yesterday
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: and basically, like people are saying, well, Lindsay is saying
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: that he threatened her in terms of like losing her job,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: and he also the rumors that he wanted to be
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: on Summer House with Amanda and then like all the
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: other people would not be on Summer House.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: What that's like the rumor to Lulu, dude, wow, to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: be a white man, you know, really and truly. So
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes that was the ruler.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: But here's what Page six is reporting, right, West Wilson
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: reportedly tried to get Lindsay Hubbard, Kyle Cook, and Carl
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Radkey fired from Summerhouse, which allegedly led to him not
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: being asked back for season eleven. However, a rep for
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Wilson told Page six that the accusation is categorically false,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: while a rep for Cook told us there is no
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: truth to the claims. Oh interesting, I'm surprised. Cooks all right, well,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: oh okay, Cooks. That's Kyle getting in there. And the
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: source claimed to US Weekly on Tuesday that the podcaster,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: meaning West, told producers that Lindsay shouldn't film pregnant and
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: being a new mom because it's a show about singles
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: and having fun in the summer. So that's where that
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: was the one where I was like, yeah, that's totally legit, and.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So but it's not your house, bro, like like you
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, just yeah, yeah, Now.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I honestly feel like him being fired is leaving money
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: on the table, and I think it's very strange that
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: they are letting him go because all we want to
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: see right now is more of the aftermath. I mean, like, although,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: you know, do does it have legs?
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Does it? I will be honest, I'm good. I'm genuinely
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: good on West. I will never believe another word that
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: comes out of his mouth. And I think if Sierra
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: is going to be on the show one more season,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: it is cruel. Oh yeah, him there again.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: You know, I just assume Sierra was moving on to
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: like bigger and better things. But uh, but she she
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: should have the right of first refusal, that's for sure.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I'm good on him. Amy, I don't it.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: You don't want to see Amanda and West try to
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: figure this out.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Well, because they smell of pachuli, I believe, and I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: don't want to have that hit me. I just there's
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: a scent discuss that's.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Wy I dislike. I really dislike the smell of pachuli,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry to all of those who do. I've
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: never liked it and I never will.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: And they and they may not, but to me, they do,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: at least right now, they're smelling of a Petuli.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Petuli and scandal yeah and sweat, oh god, and like
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: odd buns, like the bun that's followed her to Italy.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Ooh.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: When Miha was talking with Sierra and to find out
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: where she was, when she learned that, like she the
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: reunion was happening. And then after all that they didn't
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: she didn't talk to West for a week. Then they
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: did talk and they talked for six hours, and that
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: she was even still having a difficult time disconnecting from him,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: which shows you the.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Power that he that he has, and.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: That the Italy trip was planned and she was like,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: go be with your family. And then the next thing,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you know, Amanda's on the trip and not one mentioned
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: to her that she was going. It's just so sick
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and twilted this guy.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It is. And I think that I learned some of
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: what we were feeling was for Amanda's benefit this season,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: with how he was keeping Sierra, pulling her in, pushing
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: her out, pulling her in, pushing her out, and trying
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to be like, this isn't a relationship. You know, he
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: was getting that word to others wasn't as much about
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Amanda as it was about Miha. Wow, and I needed
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that flashback because I have been thinking about that moment when.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Jesse Jesse the Jesse flashback. You remember that because I
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: didn't remember that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I did because I found it interesting and it had
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: me thinking about West. Oh wow, how he moves and
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: so and then hearing the name Miha out of Jesse.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That's a couple, like that's how long ago? I don't
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: do the math on these things, like two years ago
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: or at least yeah, two summers ago.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And West seemed very shocked and put on
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: the spot, and he was off camera, so it's unfortunately
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: because we didn't get to see his actual face, but
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: we could hear in his voice, Uh yeah, she's I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: imagine she's good. It's like, wow, you are really just
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: you were just hiding it all right. Well, Me has
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: admittance to feeling that the secret romance was something that
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: she enjoyed, and that was the tricky part that she
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: got herself into because I think that her feeling like
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it's okay to keep her a secret and she found
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that exciting is what ended up backfiring for her. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: she couldn't see the forest through the cheer, through the trees,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and she like fell for it that like she had
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to be kept a secret, which a lot of women
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: do when they're the mistress.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I wish she said it a little differently, because I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: think what she really meant was, I am not a
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: public person. I didn't want to be out in public
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: with him in magazines, and I didn't want people taking
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: pictures of us, and I didn't want to be known
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: by the general public as West's girlfriend. I don't know
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to be kept I don't know that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: their relationship was secret per se except for the Summer
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: House people Like I got the feeling, and maybe I'm wrong,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: but I got the feeling that she's not a public person.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: She would have never gone on the show. He knew that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: He knew she had no designs to be on the show,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and that's why he could keep her where she was
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and move about. Yeah, So I wonder if it was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: really secret, like a secret relationship, or just like I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: didn't want to go public to be a public.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Person right on, And that's how it was on her terms,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: is what you're saying, right but on his journey, yeah, yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. And on his terms it was secret.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And also, you know, she did say to Sierra something
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: like she had just moved to New York and she
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: didn't know a lot of people, and she wasn't going
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to go back to Philly and she needed somewhere to stay, right,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: And so he's like, well, why not stay at my
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: place while I'm at this in the summerhouse. And then
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: she was like, I love decorating. So then that's when
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: she did the furniture stuff. But I thought, what a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: perfect subject for him. Yeah, a perfect crime. She doesn't
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: know many people. You got her hold up in your apartment,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you know, whittling away you know would work or what
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: fashioning some sort of.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a bean bag, I would imagine, because that's probably
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: what you like. And then just keeping her at Bay.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and letting her believe you are in an absolutely
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: committed singular relationship.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, when he said to Kyle that he
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: was operating no, no, he said, Meha, miha was operating
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: like we had an exclusive relationship. Miha was operating like that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And then he says it was very much a relationship,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to which Kyle was like, thank you, thank you for
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: actually admitting that. He's oh yeah, one hundred percent. But
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: this guy, he can't commit to an beginning a sentence
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and ending a sentence, let alone a relationship. The way
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that he speaks is a perfect example of the way
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that he moves around in life. The way that he
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: sat there with Kyle and at the reunion, but the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: way he tried to start points. He was like, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: tried to write down his ramblings, but he's like everything
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: was like a disaster, like just like tornado and like
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: layers and just like I'm not here because because like
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I felt, you know, here's the thing like Amanda, like
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: part of why I came here, and then it just
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: being like a friendship, like steady like a friend and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: so I knew like nothing per formative, which is why
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: like I took like I'm not gonna take that, like
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I don't regret feeling, and that's where I'm gonna land.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: What did you just say, actually nothings?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's even yeah, it was really funny,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like even just trying to move around like love. He
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: was dipping and rolling and body rolling and summersault. It's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: like what right?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: He was like, question, it's not it's not a halfpipe.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: We don't need you to do flips, you know, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: like stand up. We don't need that you. Love is
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: love is love, you know, man, Love is love. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: he absolutely was in love with her on some level
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: at the beginning. In terms of why he pursued it, right,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: he had to have been. I don't know the answer
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Last week you said I don't think he loves her,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and you've got a great point.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Because I don't. Because we don't think that he knows
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: what love is.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: How could he.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: He had a full girlfriend and he was kissing Sierra
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and he was full, and he was trying to get
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: something going with Amanda. I do believe her the pursuing thing.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's talk about that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do believe that this is his juice of life.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: You know, his juice of life is lighting as many
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: girls up in the air as possible because he's juggling distance. Yes,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: he's a juggling clown, juggling clown, and he's going to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: take them to the brink. He's going to bring them
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: home to his house in the farm or wherever that is.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And that's his like his hug, which I'm happy Kyle addressed. Yeah, Yes,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's the ethel hugs, and you know that those hugs
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: have a power to them. I can feel it. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: can feel it now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I remember when you were like, I get it. When
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: he's pulling you in like that, you know he's gotcha good.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You know he's got you enveloped the hugs and bringing
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you home to mom and dad. Jesus, you got what
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: else could you make of it? And saying like we're
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in this and I love you he says, I love
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you by the way.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: He will say, yeah, I love you, I'm your best friend.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I love you. Oh, by the way. He said to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Kyle that he told Amanda that he loved her that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: night when she was lying in bed, when they had
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that when they remember when they did the flashback, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it's a week attempt at professing your love by the way.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: The woman is.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Asleep, the lights are off, and you're walking out the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: door and her husband's standing right there, like talk about
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: an uncommitted thrill seeker, you know.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, And Kyle's like, oh, so wait, you do
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: do you love her? Right? And not so fast? Yeah?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Well now, oh not so all right. I see where
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you're going with this, And let me have I said
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that my emotions have I said, I am in deep
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: love with you new but I do love her.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But are you saying and I like love, love, love
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: love her. Do you love her like like you want to,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: like you want to be in love with her? Like
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: will you will?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Will you be in love with her? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And I did save that back in the house when
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: she was sleeping. I did say, like I love you.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: My feelings have gone back a really long time, but
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: they've also only gone back since February, So there's that,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you know, would.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It be possible that you were in love with her
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and maybe now you.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Just love her? Could he say that again? Sure?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Sure, no problem, Layers. You know, is it possible that
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you were in love with her while you were in
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the summerhouse because there was no commitment.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: There, she's doing the lips. But then now since.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: It's all exploded and everybody knows that you've fallen out
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: of love with her, because now it's more real and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you would have to commit. So let me just repeat
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the question again. Were you in love with her, but
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: now since the thrill is gone, you're no longer in
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: love with her, but you love her as a friend.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. You got it. You actually landed on it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you, You're welcome. And I could see you were
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: processing that through your lips. That's very that's you're puckering. Yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And then him also, you know, this is fuck boy
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: one on one like and just behavior and know the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: second he was like, oh dongie, oh you feel my er,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and then Kyle's like, dog seems to know you real good,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and then he doesn't touch the dog again.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like women. You know, he's caught. What's your
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: what's your favorite side of the couch?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Where do you sit? Let me give you that respect?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to respect you here because you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to sit like where I fucked your wife,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: right because I have all over the game, all over
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: matter and your dog was watching. So yeah, so where
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: do you want to sit?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, probably do you want me to be honest?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Honest or like the way I was at the reunion
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: where I don't say much and and I'm not fully
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: honest and I'm completely zoned out on some sort of medication.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Amy. No, you know what, I'm starting to get real
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: mad about that question to Kyle because it's actually really
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: insulting and he came in with it. Yeah, he thought
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he was doing his big one with that question. But meanwhile,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: he never intended to be honest because it's not available.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: That's right, so many lies. Just he's such a liar
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't he lied one foot in the door.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Have you been here before? No, Well, let's just wrap
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: it up here because we're not even.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you know, he hadn't asked if Kyle
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: wanted honesty, real honesty yet, so he couldn't tell the
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: truth yet when Kyle was like trying to wrap his
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: head around when things happened, and Wes just like everybody
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: wants a timeline, and it's like timeline is sort of
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you know, what does it even do? Measures time? Like
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: who does that? You know? I mean, I don't how
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: do we What is it going to tell us?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Because things actually something really a lot of things.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: But you know what I found very interesting in this
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: episode was we did get the admittance that they had
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: kissed twice at the end of the summer.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought that. Okay, I thought he was talking
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: about Sierra, So I was off on that. I think
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you're right. I was mistaken. I didn't know who we
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: were talking about if it was Sierra or Amanda.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: But okay, and he couldn't even twice. Yeah, they kissed
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: at the end of the summer. He said, like after
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: summer they kissed twice.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Which is talking about January four.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Because that's when. Okay, So then they kissed at the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: end of summer twice. West thinks it's I think maybe twice. Oh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: you don't know, okay, because of course you don't count things.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: You don't use numbers or timelines.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, none of that applies.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: January seventh, Siera saw Amanda at his apartment and that
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: was you know, other people were there seventeenth, the seventeenth,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the split announcement was on January nineteenth, and West said
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that he had feelings, feelings. He started having feelings feelings
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: in February.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Lord of Mercy, and then he was sleeping with me
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in March.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So yes, right, And you know when when Lindsay was
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: like he cheated on you, like and her and you're
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the other woman like.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Hello, yeah, She's like mm yeah, that's right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: How about that one part when Amanda was told by
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Lindsay that West told Sierra at PJ. Clark's that Amanda
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: had a crush on him, and she was obsessed with him.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: How her demeanor changed quite a bit, like he was obsessed.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I was obsessed with him. Yeah, I'm so curious as
• 31:43
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  Speaker 2: the receipts.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know.
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  Speaker 2: How loosely fitting that is? That receipt It's a loose fits.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they were group texts. They were group fucking
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  Speaker 2: texts in the safety of other people. Was he including
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: her because he likes that kind of thrill? And he
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: wanted to be around her absolutely, and they had kissed
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: at that point. Because now they're back in town, so
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  Speaker 2: it's like he's just texting her in safety of in
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: plain sight, and she's like, no, no, no. So she
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  Speaker 2: has the ability to say that she said no to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: these group texts, but those weren't receipts of him saying
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: let's get together, Can you come over? Can I come over?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: In fact, he even said so much to Kyle that like,
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  Speaker 2: your wife asked for my address and I wouldn't give
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it to her because I'm such a stand up guy.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that parser Yeah, that was gross disgusting. So he's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: making her look bad. And when she didn't go to
• 39:01
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• 39:07
  Speaker 2: bag bad at all. In fact, she started to just
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: defend herself and say things that he was doing. She
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: probably would have never done that hadn't she heard that
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: he was talking about her, whereas West was like, I'm
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I you know a handful of times I did the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: best I could, and then I just my my peen
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: wanted what it wanted, what it needed.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: He really wants a cookie for keeping his peen in
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: his pants. On an off night. You know, it was
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a Tuesday, and my peen stayed in.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: It stayed in, so like, can I get you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: tickets and free tickets to the giants?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, is the World Cup available to right where? Now?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this this little crew of friends
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that are such a blast okay, and he has that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: are such a fun time.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, his crew like not the Summerhouse people, but
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: like his other crew of people. Yeah okay.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Where Amanda was with them and she was felt like
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: she was in her twenties and she with them and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: she felt fun and she felt cool. Now this group
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: was Miha. Hello, do they know Miha? Would she there? God?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, A great question, I don't. She
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: was certainly not there, right, I know, I don't.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Know what he's up to. He I think that he listen,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: she could have been there on a night or so
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: who freaking knows? Yeah, but probably not. Yes, But I'm
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: just like he kept Jesse, trying to keep Jesse away
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: from Miha until he was like, literally, I see her
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: name on your phone, But it wasn't like that information
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: was given to him. Yes, I'm seeing someone named Miha.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Right, He's just putting it together because he actually has.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: He mistakenly put the real person's name on his caller ID.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: He'll learn how to fix that next time. My mom exactly,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: My mom will be every girl's contact.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So is this group like, yeah, it's aware of her?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Is he also keeping keeping her really tucked away? Like
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Rapunzel in that apartment Punzel?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, he rapunzeled her. I like that term. I like
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: that term. He fucking rapunzeled her. Yeah, that's good. And
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: she didn't fully mind. She was into it. She was
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: into that kink a little bit, but not into what
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: actually was going on, which she had no clue about,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: which is she did not buy that ticket. She didn't
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: buy all those amenities. Now, sir, oh, what did you
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: think about? When Lindsay was like, have you watched the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: episodes because Andy had asked her that too, and she
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: was like no, and she hasn't, and and she's like, well,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: do you what did you think about the reunion? And
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: she's like, I don't remember much because she was dissociating,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: which is dissociating, not disassociating, just so everybody knows, so
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: they're on the same page. That's actually the term.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: But thank you.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: She she doesn't remember because she's like so many people
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: were yelling at me. And then like, I, you know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I can understand her compartmentalizing, but I think that she's
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: compartmentalizing in that habit with Kyle. I could see that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: That totally makes sense. I bet she did that with
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Kyle for sure. But also whatever medicine, special medicine that
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Mama was taken certainly helped get that as well.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it made me think back to that TikTok I
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: told you about with the friend who said she did
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: something similar to her with a boyfriend, like she was
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: she had right, and she had said that Amanda had
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of screws. She did not say what. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: have no idea if it was parent. I have no
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: idea what it was about out, but she went through
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of it in her childhood, so I think
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: that that also came up for me. I'm like, this
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: may be her coping mechanism. Just yes, with everything.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: But and it also makes sense how she came in
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: with a light energy to Lindsey's, you know, because she
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: has very interesting Yeah, I seen it all, and I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: kind of believe that, you know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do we saw it with Kyle like he
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: would be like a total shiitball and then she'd wake
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: up the next day and be in a fine mood,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: right right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: No, I think that is Oh, and it's it's an
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: there's just an immaturity there in general that you do
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: understand aligning with someone like West when you're not everything.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: She said, like, yeah, that is what most people do
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: after our long breakup, they end up going with someone
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: who's not the next real That's fun. Yeah, that's easy.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: That makes you feel good. That is a normal, normal thing.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: It's the Sierra piece that makes it horrible.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: It's everything about it makes sense, even the fact that
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: he was friends with Kyle, Like that isn't We even
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: talked about this last week where we're like I think
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: we were like, if if Sierra wasn't in the picture,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: we would not this would not be that big of
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: a deal. And you're like, we would have touched on
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: it for like a minute, you know, because it just
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be that big of a deal. Because everything that
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: she said made complete sense. She didn't recognize herself anymore.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: She's in a horrible relationship. You know, she wanted to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: have kids, She wanted to move to the suburbs. This
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: guy is like out every night, She's getting messages. Is
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: he cheating on her?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Is he not?
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: He's drunk all the time. Like she is not happy
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: in this marriage, and clearly he isn't either. So now
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: she has this great distraction. And that happens when everybody
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: has an affair. That's what that is. That's the exciting.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: When she was like, I confused falling in love with
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: myself with West and and that that checks out. I mean,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: he brought out a side of her like he does
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: with everybody, which is why it's so hard to quit him,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: because it's just a fun time guy. He's a fun
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: time guy when you have him in that position, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: he has you in that position, and he's not going
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: to go any further than that fun time guy, right,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: and he chases you.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: To the brink, so the brank of everything. We are
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: every like. I think he takes women right to your
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: mind forever and we're married and we're like. I think
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: everyone gets to that point and he dangles a carrot.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: It is the especially when you're doing it to women
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: in their thirties. I think it's horrible because that's really
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like go time. You know, that's those are precious years, yeah,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and finding your partner.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And really, like I kind of go back to when
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: she's talking about how she lost herself, and I mean,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I am pro Amanda when it comes to this was
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: a horrible marriage. And Kyle is sitting here looking like,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you know, the hero, he's looking like the Disney Prince
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: in all of this, and he's just not at the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: end of the day, he unfortunately isn't.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: It doesn't need to.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: There's no space for him to take any accountability at
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: this point because that ship has sailed and we don't
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: need it. But like, he had everything to do with
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: why she got to this point, and I think that
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: takes I think there's something there to look at a
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: little harder when we can get past this at some point,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: not that we're going to be around for it, but
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: she was kind of abandoned by Kyle, and that's what
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: it seemed like to me. And so when someone was
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: giving her attention, and the big question is, well, there's
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: all these guys out there. That's a that's an easy
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: thing for someone to say, right, but it's not so easy. Sure,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: there's all those guys out there, but like she's not
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: putting herself in a position to which because she's married,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: so she's not going to be putting herself in a
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: position to where she's surrounded by guys giving her attention.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: She's not going to go on speed dating.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: She's not, you know well and in a couple of
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: months old could have though, like you know, she could
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: have waited it out. And I think that was Lindsay's point.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: It's like, just you know, yes, but like, had you
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: given yourself six.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Months but it already happened though. That's the problem. That's
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that's the problem, is that she already had feelings for
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: West when she was in Summerhouse, and she kept pursuing
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: that and wanting for it to go away. And that's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: what she's never going to admit. She's just never going
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: to admit that she's going to play stupid and say
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: it just it was like so crazy, it was such
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: a shit show, like it was a tornado, and using
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: all of these words a word salad to explain nothing
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: when you're really not being honest, which is it's pretty simple,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: while working with this person, you had such a blast,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: you couldn't deny how much fun you had and he
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: was the best relief you've ever experienced. Like, there's actually
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: nothing necessarily wrong with that, it's just obviously Sierra. But
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: you could have at least said, I couldn't even deny
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: it because how much it was filling me up. That
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: that's how I had to turn on my friend because
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I was so devoid and desperate for any kind of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: fun attention and he was there, and that's what happened.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Like wrong place, wrong time, selfish person.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he definitely saw a mark in her.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he took advantage of her big time. He didn't
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: need to put her on all those groups. See, that's
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: him protecting himself again.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: He knows Dan Welby's fish is what he's doing with
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a key because really, if he had any wherewithal of
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you know, he wouldn't have kiss her. Like that's where
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: he's just my god, you know, he is playing so
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: hard and fast with all of them, Like.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: He really would have liked to have heard why he
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: did that, Like what was did we even he's attracted
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: to her?
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: So that is that what he said? Did did we
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: even talk about that? But I mean, like he wants
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: everything and he thinks he's slick enough, and he has
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: been pretty slick, you know, he's been It's like it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: like watching Mafia, Like you get away with the crimes
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: for a really long time until they do, you know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the Rico case on you, and then you're screwed. Like
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: it's just.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're going down for all the crimes. Absolutely,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and there are many here.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: By the way, just we never talked about this and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the reunion, and from what I understand, if they did
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: talk about it, I think they did talk about it,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: but it was cut out. And that is that there
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: was a video of Amanda and west together, remember that,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and that that's why the statement came out because there
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: was a rumor that there was this somebody leaked a
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: video to Sierra and it was West End Amanda together
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: and she was like, you know, they were in an
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: intimate situation. And the question was was this a private
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: investigator that took this video that Sierra because there were
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: all these rumors that like Page and Sierra decided to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: hire a private investigator, but see none of that came up.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Kind of don't believe that. I don't.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I do, And actually I think that at that point
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: they that was this if she did hire a private investigator. Shit,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I think that that would have been the smartest thing
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: to do, because none of these they wouldn't have come out,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't have been smoked. They needed to be smoked
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: out of their hole. And I think that's what happened.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I think this video.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: So George Bush smoke them, smoke them out of their holes. Wow,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: okay them out George w today. That's yeah, get him
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: out of there. Wow. Well, and that would make sense
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: that they would like not want to say, and that
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: would make sense that Page has been very quiet. She's like, well,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I did fund this.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I would think that that would be the perfect thing
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: for Page to do, right, She'd be like, we're hiring
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: a private investigator.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Don't worry.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Your fingerprints aren't on then I'm hiring though, Yeah.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I'm hiring you continue to pay for your parents' house,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: your childhood home, your grandfather's home. I got it. I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: have a couple of great deals going on right now,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: and it would be my pleasure because I when I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: go back, I don't like how she moved with Craig,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and we're going to get to the bottom.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and by the way, let's also consider that
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Page used that same private investigator to find out whether
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: or not Craig actually bought a ring, and the answer
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: was no.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Right. She was like, while you're at it, I'm going
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: to keep you on retainer because I feel we're going
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to need you next year.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Lindsay saying to Amanda. When Amanda would try to
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: explain herself, She's like, I'm feeling it and Lindsay's like, no,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: you're not, You're you are not feeling this, and she's right.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I appreciate everything that Lindsay said. That felt like she
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: was speaking for us.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Didn't you feel him? Yes, she you know, curls on
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the back, straight in the front. She was there to
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: take care of things and her hair. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: well was yeah, no, she really listen. This is where
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: her pr training, her New York sensibility, her I'm gonna
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: get it done attitude. Yea. I would love her to
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: work with me, you know what I mean, Like that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: who I want. I'm sorry, take me to the top, baby,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, like she's gonna like she's just.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Sheeah and we want one on one consulting, Yes, we don't.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe would have to do a group package. I would
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: imagine that she would be a pricey okay, and I
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: think we could really benefit from that life coaching, career
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: coaching anything.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: We're open, yeah, open, yeah. I'm just seeing here when
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: she was like, you know, he fucked mih in March,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and Amanda.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Was like like out what out babe, await up, bah,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you know what's happening.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that me I got some camera time. Very
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: interesting situation, right, like for her to now be coming
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: out of the woodwork literally the woodworking furniture that she
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: was doing in his house. I don't know what materials
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: she was using, but that she was there and Sierra.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: She and Sierra sat down and Sierra's like, I'm sorry
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you had to see that kissing us kissing, and then
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: they are going to have a friendship. Now it's wild.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a West Club.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I would have loved and this wasn't gonna happen, but
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I would have loved Sierra to ask, so how much
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: shit did Wes talk about me in your time with him?
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Because I'm sure, oh.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: My god, yeah that he was like she thinks did this?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Did that absolutely turned America again? It's me yep, yep.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: And now I have to go back there, and I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: do need to like figure out how to make it
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: right with her because I won't be on the show
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: like I wanted to totally.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's such a good question. And I
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: bet you if West were saying to Miha, you know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I had to kiss her because like I had to
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: shut her up, you know, because like I just have
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to save my reputation. You just see like.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: The pucker lips, asshole lips, little asshole lips.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little punch. I mean, Kyle, I don't
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: know if I should like punch you. I don't know
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: what to do here. That was so awkward. I mean,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: it's just so weird.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: He's a weirdo, Like goodbye, I'm good to say, Sayinara,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to look at you anymore. I want
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: you to take a shower and get out of my life. Okay.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I'd love for him to do a couple cameos on
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: in the City next season, just to great, you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: spice it up job and oh wait, real real quick
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: before we hang up, when West said, you know, I
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: know they won't they won't leave this part in. But
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I just want you to know, Kyle, like I'm not
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: talking to you for camera time or all that stuff
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: that seemed.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: See, you can't trust a word, he says, no, But
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: it was he's calculated, he's cringe. He's cringe and he's
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: calculated and everything that's going on behind the scenes about
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the show, and you know, the the rumor I was
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: on the nastiness about trying.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: To get Kyle and everybody fired. But I'm like, well,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: they're not going to be on the Summer House anyway.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: They're on in the city, So that doesn't even make
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: sense to me. To be honest, it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Made sense to me in that listen, the one piece
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: of clarity and the clean sentence he got out. I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: was like, I, you know, I didn't perform well during
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: the reunion, even right phrasing, wow, he only has his
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: on himself, Like obviously he's messy and it didn't work out,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: so like maybe he's just not that great at it.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: But we can't forget he is a sports reporter. We
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: can't forget that he did find his way over to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: that New York magazine to say his side of the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: story after Sierra, And we can't forget that he like
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: got Sierra back very intentionally and you know, didn't want
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the relationship, but like he is moving these pieces around
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: for his comfort and for his progress, you know, so
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: right he could have. Yeah, like I just don't buy well,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you can't buy any of it because he lied minute one.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Through the door, minute one, can't buy any of it
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: in every in minute one through every door. This guy
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: has got he's just putting it on. You know, what
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: a fast rise and what a quick fall. It hasn't
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: been that long. And I honestly, as we wrap this up,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I truly am still so surprised that this even happened
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: on our timeline in terms of like the shows that
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: we're watching. You think that that nothing like this could
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: ever happen again after Scandaval, and yet here we are.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't. It's obviously not as big, however,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: it's it's up there. It's definitely up there, and.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's different. But I think Amanda and Sierra that
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: is almost like that is the big story. That's the explosion. Yeah,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: and especially how they were supporting her and all season
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: like me and Siara like it just yeah, that is
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that is the the dues, and it is I think comparable.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's comparable because like Kyle and Amanda breaking up,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: it's just months, it's such a fine like quite frankly
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Arianna and what's is not we're sort of in a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: similar position.
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  Speaker 2: True, But we just didn't know it though, because they
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: didn't really share that. Yeah, I mean we did think
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: it was kind of weird, but we did think that
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: they were fine for the most part. Whereas Kyle and Amanda,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: we just all we saw summer after summer was them
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: drunk and fighting and like her going to bed and
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: him being out. So we knew that this was ultimately
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: going to end. It's true, true, true, I suppose.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. It's like there's differences, but it's
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: not all that different.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Well, uh, holy smokes, I'm ready to put this behind us. Yeah,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: and you know, move on. We've got plenty of other shows.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: McBee Dynasty is starting. I don't know if you watch that,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: but I love that show. Still have the Valley to
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: wrap up, Atlanta is still going, and Rhode Island Reunion
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: is coming. Love Island, which I have not started yet.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Oh it's fun, I mean, is it good? It's so
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: hard to say. I don't know, but like I'm watching,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: do you know what, okay, And like I'm in I'm
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: watching great watching. I would think I would be behind,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: but guess what, I'm not.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I know because you've learned from the past that you
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: can't let it get too far behind you or ahead
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: of you.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Gotta Yeah, well, if you are going to watch, I
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: do urge you to get on at Amy because now
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: you are. I'm waving.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say. What I'm gonna do is I'm
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: gonna watch the first episode because I love to watch
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: that really obnoxiously long video where they're dancing and stuff.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite part of everything. And then and then
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and watch the after suns and then
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: pick up where you guys are.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: This is quite a technique.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Wow, I have no choice because you know, end of
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: the school year, Mattie's birthday, my parents being in town,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: my brother and sister and Laura coming in to tomorrow,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and then her real birthday is like Friday, so we're
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: all going to go out. So it's a whole thing.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: So until like I get into next week, I'm I'm
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: pretty doomed for you know, getting my eyes on Love
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Island at this point. So I've got to make some strides.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I got to do the cheats.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I understand, do the cheats. Maybe get tuck one actual
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: episode in instead of an after son. Okay, do you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? I do just take a middle up. Okay,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Like seven, Like I'm gonna go like first, yeah, after sun,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: after Sun, seven after Sun, and then pick up like ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: wherever the hell you guys are.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wherever we are, well listen, I am enjoying Sierra
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: on the after Sun. I have only won. Wow. One episode.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: It was the one with Tink tink and tink No, Tink,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Tink's out of there. It's another goal. And I don't
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: know who this other goal is. I'm sure I should know,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: but they are. They have a really fun dynamic. And
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: this one girl came on and she was like, she said,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you'll die. She was like listen because the guy had
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: a kid, and she said, I did not escape teen
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: pregnancy just to be a stepmom. And they two of
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: them fell out like cards over your face dead and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: it was just so funny, like I'm enjoying them as ghosts. Yeah,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: good stuff. It was. I watched it twice. I was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: like they're killing me right now, that's their reactions.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when you're not watching Love Island or your
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Bravo shows, and even simultaneously, you got to tune into
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Deanna Chang's incredible content. She has a great substack. It's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: also a podcast. It's called How to Be Less Old,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: and you learn a lot about what the kids are saying,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. And quite honestly, I can't live without
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: it because I need the information. And let's all figure
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: out what kind of montage is we want to give
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: to our loved ones and friends. Because the Montage Queen
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: is so gracious that they gave me my own code
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: for drama Darling, Deanna, what is the percentage off?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And what is at any point you can say, Amy Phillips,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: you can say drama Darling, you can say welcome in,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: you can jot down you know any of those great
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: little bitch wife you know what you want, I'll know, Yeah,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you'll know where they're coming from. Yeah yeah, And I'll
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: go ahead and I will give you that five percent off.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: And if I can give I just posted yesterday hot
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: off the press. You guys, I know, Amy said, like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: we have these shows right to like calm our minds
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: and take our head out of things. I just had
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: a post on substack how to be less old at
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: substack dot com, and since I did it yesterday, there's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: so much more content. But America is getting there is
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: a trend happening right now with the World Cup, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I America has gotten the biggest glow up of our lives,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: like the way we needed this. All these different countries
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: showing up in these cities and their reactions to us, Oh,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: really is so incredible. The friendliness, the food they're taken
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: in Costco. They are Scotland and Boston. I can't explain
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: what's going on there. Oh wow. Mexico and Korea are
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: also having a LoveFest, the likes of which it is
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: the most. We are getting so gassed up any rate.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I had no idea so good, and I just can't
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: urge you all enough. First of all, go check out
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: the post that'll get you started on your on the substack.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Got the post on the substack, because that will prime
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: your algorithm, okay, and then your algorithm on TikTok will
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: be ready to go. And you just can't get enough
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: of it. It is the best. They are loving the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: United States of America so hard and wow, and these
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: states have been so beautifully welcoming to the countries who
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: are playing there, like learning their national anthem, welcome them, welcome,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: welcoming them, in caring them. It's just been extra Yeah,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: it's the best.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: That is so great. Thank you for sharing that. Okay,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I can't get over it. And it's like this morning,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I you know, you know, I get up at the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: krack of dawn, but you do. I Pete in the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: middle of the night and my friends here had sent
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: me another great post and then I was off to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the night. I was got. I did a good hour
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: on there. I enjoying the goddamn hell out of the content.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Wow, did you get any Jordan in Austria content? Because
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I was watching that game last night. They're in the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Bay Area, Is that right? Yeah, that's where I.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Think, Jordan. I'm not. I don't know. I don't know
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: where they are, but it's the Jordan Content's fantastic. Kansas
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: is coming coming all the way through, Like, please just
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: go enjoy I will. Wow.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Great tips, Deanna Chang. I love it. I love you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: and I really do. I love you and I'm in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: love with you, and I love you just as much
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: now as I did then, if not more, And I
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: just love you every day. However, you know I'm not
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like date anybody or like love anybody.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: So I like you a lot. And you are seeing
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: other hosts, yes,