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Ghislaine Maxwell And Her Witness List During Her Trial · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: Every want and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Gallainne
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  Maxwell and her family are being accused of stiffing her
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  lawyers on legal bills. Now, this doesn't shock me in
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  the least. Considering who we're dealing with, the Maxwell family,
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  you're gonna be surprised that you're getting stiffed on some
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  legal bills. Let's remember what we're talking about here, the
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  family that stole from pensioneers, a family that doesn't give
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  a damn about anything but themselves. Oh and you thought
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  they were gonna pay their legal bills, Come on those
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  services they've already been rendered. They don't care about their
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  legal bills now, and especially considering old lady of complain
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  Glaine is sitting around in the pen and she's gonna
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  be rotting there for a good fifteen twenty years. Well,
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  she's an afterthought now to the rest of the family.
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  And that's just the truth of it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, you know, you hear Maxwell and the
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  family come out and they talk about, oh, we care
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  about Glaine, We're worried about Glaine. This that the other thing.
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  Where were you throughout the whole entire time period she
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  was running around with Jeffrey Epstein. You didn't pull her
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  aside at the family barbecue and say to her, hey, look,
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  this isn't a good idea. Sis. This dude's a sick motherfucker.
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  I don't want you running around with him. No, no
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  one did anything like that. And then when she gets busted,
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  it's all, oh, nobody had any idea. We weren't really
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  involved in Glaine's life. And but you're involved now, and
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  you care so much now that you're gonna go on
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  a media blitz.
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  Speaker 2: And the rest of it. Stop it.
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  Speaker 1: It was never about Glenn Maxwell, in my opinion, They
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  were always trying to save whatever sort of little bit
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  of shine was left on the Maxwell name in general,
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  the family name. So they figured they had to come
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  riding into the picture here to try and save their sister.
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  But the reality is that was never going to happen.
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  All they could hope for is to maybe save a
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  little face, and they can't even do that. So now
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  delinquent bills, you have lawyers calling, they want their dough
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  and the Maxwell family, well they're on the line now, folks,
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  for about eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Oh did
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  I even mention, did I mention Scott Borgerson yet because
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  he's on the line too, another guy who was, you know,
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  running around. I love Gallain Maxwell. She's part of my
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  children's lives. And that blew me away from the jump.
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  I mean this dude's got Borgerson left his wife two
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  children for Glen Maxwell. Really, bro, that's a quality life choice.
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  You didn't have any friends in your life to stop
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  you from making this decision. Hey, bro, look this lady.
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  I don't know about that to run around with Epstein.
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  Have you not looked at the news. So it's not
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  like he didn't know, right. He knew what she was.
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  He knew that she was a bipedal serpent. He hopped
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  right into the bed with her anyway. So now the
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  lawyers are looking to get their money back. They want
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  this dough and it's not only the Maxwell's who are
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  in the crosshairs, it's Scott borgerous In as well. So
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  let's get into this article from Courthouse News Service and
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  let's get ourselves caught up headline. Glenn Maxwell's lawyers sue
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  over unpaid legal bills and transferred assets. So she's even
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  trying to pull one over on the lawyers, right, She's
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  out here trying to pull one over on society, and
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  for so long she was able to get away with it.
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  And now well the house of cards, it certainly has imploded.
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  Glenn Maxwell's defense lawyers say she still owes them more
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  than eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars and suspects Maxwell
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  and her brother work together with her ex husband to
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  shield her assets from creditors. Boy, that should shock nobody,
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  considering who we're dealing with. Nobody should be shocked that
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  she's still up to the grift, that she's still up
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  to making moves and trying to finagele. This is who
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  she is. This article was authored by Maria Dinzio, defense
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  attorneys for erstwhile socialite, Uh what you mean, co conspirator, general,
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  all around.
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  Speaker 2: Scuzbag, fellow child abuser.
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  Speaker 1: You know that person, That's what you mean, right, Not
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  socialite and convicted sex trafficker Gallaine Maxwell are suing her
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  for one hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of unpaid
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  legal bills. Boy, how the mighty have fallen? Huh You've
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  come a long way, Glaigne Maxwell to looking for fertile
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  hunting grounds. Now you're sitting around in your prison, and
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  I don't care if there's a yoga program for you
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  to go to. You're behind bars exactly where you be long.
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  But even behind bars, the griff still continues. Right, Oh,
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  I can't pay my legal bills.
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  Speaker 2: I have no money. You know that this.
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  Speaker 1: Lady's plotting for her time when she gets out. How
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  much money does she have stashed offshore?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? That's right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll never know because the federal government, led by the SDNY,
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  didn't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Go the reco route.
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  Speaker 1: A lawsuit file tuesday by Hadden Morgan informant says Maxwell
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  has owed the Colorado based firm eight hundred and seventy
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  eight thousand, three hundred and two dollars since June twenty seventh,
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  twenty twenty two, and that roughly eight hundred and fifty
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  thousand dollars of that amount has been due since January
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  thirty first. It claims her brother Kevin and husband Scott Borgerson,
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  also named as defendants, worked to shield Maxwell's assets from
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  being used to pay her debt, and Folks, if you
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  just look at this portion of it itself, it tells
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  you everything you need to know about the rest of
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  their money and how they shielded it. And how they
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  hit it and how it's all probably buried offshore. Now
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  can I prove that? I cannot? Okay, And there's not
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  very often that I come on this podcast and I
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  talk about things that I can't prove. But there's no
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  doubt in my mind that these people have money stashed offshore.
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  And obviously there's no way for the public to prove that.
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  That has to be dug into by a forensic accountant,
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  a team of forensic accountants, and a real investigation has
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  to be played out. But they have no desire to
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  do that because they understand where that investigation will lead them.
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  And just like I said on Tucker Carlson Show the
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  other night, it will shock the world if they ever
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  dove into this with a Rico case, because it would
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  be over.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody would be connected.
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  Speaker 1: All of these scumbags we talk about on a regular basis,
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  who even accepted ten cents from Jeffrey Epstein would have
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  to explain where that money came from. Why did you
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  accept ill gotten gains from a human trafficker, a money launderer,
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  et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And if they can't
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  explain why they were getting money from him. Well, now
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  you're part of the conspiracy. Maxwell retained HMF Lawyers in
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  twenty fifteen to represent her in lawsuits brought by women
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  accusing her former boyfriend, co conspirator partner in crime Jeffrey
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  Epstein of sexual abuse, as well as other subsequent civil litigation.
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  Jeffrey Pagliuca and Laura Meninger were also hired to defend
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  Maxwell at her criminal trial in late twenty twenty one,
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  where she was found guilty of learning vulnerable teenage girls
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  for Epstein to abuse. So what does Maxwell think? This
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  is like a car accident. We don't get paid unless
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  you win. Sorry, that's not how it works. Maxwell. You
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  owe these dudes a lot of money this law firm.
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  You better pay up. Then again, what are they going
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  to do sewer for? What?
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  Speaker 2: All that money's hidden already?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Look, we could talk about how disgusting Maxwell is
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  until the cows come home, and we'll be right every
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  single second of the conversation. But we can't dismiss the
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  fact that she's shrewd. We can't dismiss the fact that
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  she's calculating and cunning. And if you think somebody like
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  Laine Maxwell, who's been living in this world. Her whole
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  life isn't shrewd enough to have money stashed overseas, then
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  I don't know what to tell you, Her lawyers say.
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  Kevin Maxwell assured them that he would personally guarantee one
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  hundred thousand dollars Evergreen retainer so they wouldn't withdraw from
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  her case due to lack of payment. The firm accepted
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  over concerns about Maxwell's.
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  Speaker 2: Ability to pay.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, you got Kevin Maxwell out here telling this
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  law firm, Look, you're gonna get your money.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna secure that bag for you. Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one hundred thousand dollars retainer. But here's the problem.
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  Listening to a Maxwell is basically listening to like Ramsey Bolton. Right,
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  You're gonna listen to this guy and believe him, Okay,
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  I mean, if that's the route you want to go,
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  I certainly wouldn't be listening to him or believing him.
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  But guess what, that's why you're some big shot lawyer
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  and I'm some knucklehead sitting in his homemade studio. Kevin
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  Maxwell wired the first one hundred thousand dollars payment to
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  HMF in August of twenty twenty, but by November the
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  funds were exhausted, and by January fourth, twenty twenty one,
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  Maxwell owed the firm roughly one hundred and forty one
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  thousand dollars. Now, look, money doesn't go long when you
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  have a trial like this, especially federal. And I've seen
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  people personally in my own life get absolutely just destroyed
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  by trying to defend themselves in a federal case. And
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  they have like a conviction rate federal court of like
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  ninety eight percent.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a reason.
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  Speaker 1: Why, right, because they have the full power of the
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  American government behind them, and when they're litigating against you,
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  they have all the money in the world, whereas most
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  people they don't. And it cost a lot of money
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  to hire lawyers like this. So Maxwell out here stiffened
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  people now. And it just makes me shake my head.
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  How many people out there wish they had legal advice
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  or a legal team like this and couldn't even get
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  through the front door. But Maxwell a known grifter, a
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  known liar, and they just accept her with open arms,
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  like she she's gonna pay them. You might as well
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  have taken someone else's case who matters, someone who's actually
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  innocent on pro bono. I mean, you're gonna get the
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  same amount of money that you're getting from the Maxwell's.
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  According to their complaint, Kevin Maxwell told HMF that he
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  would replenish the account. As twenty twenty one progressed, Miss
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  Maxwell fell consistently behind on her obligations to HMF. When
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  HMF raised concerns, Miss Maxwell, excuse me, mister Maxwell routinely
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  assured the firm that he would satisfy the outstanding invoices.
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  The lawyers say, adding Maxwell made a handful of sporadic
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  payments to keep the account current, but it was never
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  enough to fully cover her mounting legal bills. And this
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  is what grifters do, right, They paid just enough to
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  keep the charade going. They'll give you just enough dough
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  to make you say, all right, well, maybe Moore's coming
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  down the pipe. But the reality is they never plan
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  on paying, and that's all part of the grift. HMF
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  says that again, Warren Maxwell that that it intended to withdraw,
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  requiring a one million dollar retainer to stay on through
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  her trial. One million dollars as a retainer. Boy, your
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  stupidity sure can be costly, can it? Mister Maxwell spent
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  the weeks and days leading up to the trial assuring
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  HMF that he was on the verge of obtaining financing
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  on miss Maxwell's properties that would result in more than
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  enough cash to settle the amount ode to HMF and
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  satisfy the retainer. Their complain states that money never came. Now,
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  if you're a lawyer out there and Maxwell's looking to
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  retain you for her appeal, why would you even get
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  on board? What do you have to gain? How funny
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  would it be if Glen Maxwell ended up with a
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  public defendant, boy, old boy? Would that be ironic? Instead,
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  the firm claims Glenn Maxwell's estranged husband, Scott Borgerson, formed
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  two limited liability companies and used Maxwell's money to buy
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  two high end condos in Boston and other properties in
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  Massachusetts and New Hampshire in an attempt to shelter her assets. Look,
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  this web is tangled, there is no doubt about it.
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  And I don't know how anyone who's looking at this
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  with a clear and concise mind can't see that this
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  needed further investigation from the authorities. This needed to be
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  absolutely robust, and it was not. These guys were still
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  out here making up all these companies limited liability companies
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  stash money here, stash money there. The real question is
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  how much of that money was made via ill gotten
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  gains and financial malfeasance. My guess a lot of it.
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  Maxwell's brother Kevin allegedly told the firm that he could
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  fund Gallan's defense with equity from the properties. He blamed
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  any hold up on Borgerson, who reportedly dumped Maxwell while
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  she was in jail and sold some of the homes
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  while claiming Maxwell had no ownership stake. So Borgerson pulled
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  the old Oakie dookie on them right, got some of
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  Maxwell's money, then sold these properties and claimed Maxwell had
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  no stake in it. So I don't know why anyone
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  should be shocked about that with borgerous in either. Anyone
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  who's leaving their family for Gallaine Maxwell, a known human trafficker,
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  is right automatically catapulted right into the stratosphere with the
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  rest of the scumbags. If you're capable of leaving your
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  children and your wife for Gallaine Maxwell, I don't know
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  what you're not capable of. The firm says that by
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  January third, twenty twenty two, Maxwell's balance had grown the
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  more than nine hundred and fifty six thousand dollars, but
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  Kevin Maxwell nonetheless asked HMF to handle POLST trial briefings,
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  scrounging up one hundred and forty three thousand, five hundred
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  dollars as a down payment. Why would the law firm
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  continue to work with this guy. I just don't understand.
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  If I was the legal team here and my bills
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  hadn't been paid in months, you could kick rocks ONMI.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing this is in charity.
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  Speaker 1: My charities for the working class poor, not for scumbags
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  like Maxwell. He did so for the purpose of inducing
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  the firm into continuing to work on post conviction issues,
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  even though he had he had no present intention of
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  paying past due fees or those incurred in the future.
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  The firm claims, so it was all one big rift
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  like usual, one big scam. Oh, I'll give you just
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  enough money to keep shit going, but I have no
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  plans on paying you the rest of the dough That's
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  what the law firm's alleging here. On January fourteenth, twenty
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  twenty two, mister Maxwell falsely assured the firm that he
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  would bring it current no later than February twenty eighth,
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  twenty twenty two. In reality, mister Maxwell would never again
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  make a payment to HMF toward Miss Maxwell's balance, which
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  still exceeded eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You know,
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  he talks all this shit about, oh, I love my sister.
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  We were the family, and we love our If you did,
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  these bills would be right. You'd have all these SE's
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  doubt and all these bills would be paid. Let me
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  tell you something right now, if it was my sister
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  and I had their kind of money, believe me, all
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  of these bills would be paid and this conversation wouldn't
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  be happening. But it's just in their nature, right. It's
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  like the scorpion and the frog. Scorpion asked the frog
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  to take them across the lake. The frog says, well, look,
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  you know I can't do that. You're gonna sting me.
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  Scorpion says, why would I do that? We'll both drowned. Well,
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  frog says that you got a good point. All right,
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  Hop on my back, bro, let's go. So they get
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  out into the lake. Scorpion stings the frog. The frog says, dude,
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  what are you doing? We're both gonna die scorpion goes, well,
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  it's just in my nature, and it's basically the same
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  thing with the Maxwell's here. Right In the months after
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  Maxwell's conviction, the firm says her brother continued to string
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  them along, promising he had wired money that never arrived. Yo,
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  it's in the mail, it'll be there tomorrow. HMF leaves
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  her brother worked in concert with Borgisen to protect Glen
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  Maxwell's assets from creditors. HMF wants a judgment for one
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  and a half times the value of the transferred assets
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  or one and a half times the amount necessary to
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  satisfy her outstanding bills, whichever is less. HMF attorney Christopher Montville,
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  who represents the firm in the case, did not return
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  phone calls seeking comment on Tuesday. Yo.
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  Speaker 2: This is like ironic as hell, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: We're sitting here talking about how this family's full of
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  grifters and cheats and liars and the rest of it,
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  and here we are getting a report that they're not
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  paying their bills. So it just shows you once again,
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  everything that we've been talking about here, everything other people
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  have been talking about, spot on about these people, and
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  no matter how many stupid websites they make or how
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  many ridiculous knucklehead wanna be journalists from places like the
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  UK try and refurbish their reputation.
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  Speaker 2: The facts are.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna remain the facts, and people are tired of being bullshitted.
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  You folks out there are done with it. You don't
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  want to sit there and be gas lit all day.
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  You want the facts and then you want to make
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  the decisions yourself. And that's what we do here on
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  this podcast. We're gonna lay that shit out for you
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  and then it's up to you what you do with it.
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  But the Maxwell family, in my opinion anyway, this is
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  just the icing on the cake and it just goes
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  to show you that the grift is still strong and
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  the klan known as the Maxwells. All right, everyone, that's
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  gonna do it for this episode. If you'd like to
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