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- 0:00Speaker 1: We talked a lot about the Eagles offense moving forward
- 0:03Speaker 1: in the future. What does the defense look like over
- 0:06Speaker 1: the next few years. We'll see right now, Adam Capelin's here.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now. This is a discussion that I think is really interesting.
- 0:13Speaker 1: We talked about this, I think last week, Adam, whether
- 0:16Speaker 1: or not this defense is better, possibly ceiling potentially than
- 0:22Speaker 1: the defense from last year as we take a look
- 0:25Speaker 1: at what they'll look like over the next few years,
- 0:27Speaker 1: a lot different than the offensive side of the ball.
- 0:29Speaker 3: What's happening, man, Yeah, I'm good to talk to you, Mike. Yeah,
- 0:32Speaker 3: just a couple of things. Did we mention last week
- 0:34Speaker 3: that it's the thirtieth anniversary of the Information of the
- 0:38Speaker 3: New World Order?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Do we talk about No, I don't think we did.
- 0:42Speaker 3: The thirtieth conniversary. Isn't it insane? Do you know where
- 0:44Speaker 3: you were when that happened?
- 0:46Speaker 2: Well?
- 0:46Speaker 1: I at that time, Why, I watched a lot of
- 0:50Speaker 1: wrestling at that time. I wasn't a big WCW guy,
- 0:53Speaker 1: so that kind of came out of right field to me.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was at my nephew's house, my nephew Sam,
- 1:00Speaker 3: and my brother Andy's house, and and my other nephew, John,
- 1:05Speaker 3: we were all trying to guess who the third man was.
- 1:07Speaker 3: We all got it wrong. Although Eric fishoffs Cent on
- 1:10Speaker 3: this podcast one of us I think guest Sting now
- 1:13Speaker 3: he was. It was actually going to be if Oogan
- 1:16Speaker 3: said no or changed his mind, it was going to
- 1:17Speaker 3: be Sting. I just for those of you like wrestling,
- 1:20Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. If not, you know,
- 1:21Speaker 3: I get why you don't care. But it was the
- 1:23Speaker 3: biggest angle in russelling history. I haven't really watched wrestling
- 1:26Speaker 3: in the last twenty five years, but I could tell
- 1:28Speaker 3: you I was blown away by that angle pretty good.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:30Speaker 1: So that that music that accompanies Adams Kaplan's entrance to
- 1:36Speaker 1: our football at for that was the NWOS music there
- 1:40Speaker 1: that we use for Adam. So let's look at this
- 1:43Speaker 1: Eagle defense.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Where are this? Where are they the next couple of years?
- 1:47Speaker 1: Because obviously Vic Fangio has got to be talked about here.
- 1:50Speaker 2: There was some thought that he might not even be
- 1:53Speaker 2: back this year.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of things. So Vic, let he breaks
- 1:57Speaker 3: his own news, as you know, his own news, defensive
- 1:59Speaker 3: news is he's great. So he said he's got past
- 2:03Speaker 3: the season at least two years left in him. That's
- 2:07Speaker 3: what he indicated. So they're run there, which means they're
- 2:11Speaker 3: gonna run their thirty four front with two overhangs. They'll
- 2:14Speaker 3: they'll do a lot of their five man front with
- 2:17Speaker 3: the three defensive tackles and the two edge rushers. But Mike,
- 2:21Speaker 3: what we're doing this week on Inside the Birds is
- 2:23Speaker 3: we're going through all our contractual challenges and issues for defense.
- 2:27Speaker 3: We did offense last week, so that's why we're talking
- 2:29Speaker 3: about this on football for today. But what we're gonna
- 2:32Speaker 3: do here is a little different. We're gonna talk about
- 2:34Speaker 3: what this defense is going to look like after the season.
- 2:36Speaker 3: He's on a contract. Who's not what this thing could
- 2:38Speaker 3: look like. So upfront, if Davis signed long term, so
- 2:41Speaker 3: he's gonna be here a long time and they can't
- 2:44Speaker 3: get out of his contract until after twenty seven anyway,
- 2:47Speaker 3: Jalen Carter, Uh, there's a there's you know, there's a
- 2:51Speaker 3: there's a move here to try to get his contract
- 2:53Speaker 3: done by training camp. We'll see if he gets done.
- 2:55Speaker 3: But he's going to be here a long time and
- 2:56Speaker 3: he's signed here. Remember he had its, Remember, Mike, he's
- 3:01Speaker 3: got fifth year option year plus more. But Eagles don't
- 3:05Speaker 3: let Eagles don't let these things happen. They get these
- 3:07Speaker 3: guys done early. He's now in his fourth season. They
- 3:10Speaker 3: love them. But after this season, Ojomo's contract is up.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Moro Jomo played very well last season, really good first
- 3:18Speaker 3: step quickness, but they don't have anyone past him. In fact,
- 3:23Speaker 3: if Ojombo does not resign, Byron Young, who's been a
- 3:26Speaker 3: good backup for them, really good waiverclaim his contracts up.
- 3:30Speaker 3: If Gabe Hall has been on off Eagles roster, really
- 3:32Speaker 3: he's not contributed only he's got some upside, but he
- 3:35Speaker 3: doesn't really factor in now. Ty Robinson, Mike, this is
- 3:38Speaker 3: a big off season for him. It's a huge trading
- 3:40Speaker 3: camp for him. He's got to push for he's got
- 3:43Speaker 3: to push for a role. He doesn't have one right now.
- 3:46Speaker 3: He's definitely going to be in the roster. But really, Mike,
- 3:50Speaker 3: this is a big training camp for him. And if
- 3:52Speaker 3: Ojomo leaves Mike, which we'll see what happens, he by
- 3:55Speaker 3: the way, change representation and he's obviously looking to get
- 3:58Speaker 3: his deal done sooner rather than later. But if he leaves,
- 4:01Speaker 3: there's a major question about who will play next to
- 4:03Speaker 3: Davison Carter.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and we know the Eagles like to
- 4:07Speaker 1: draft that position and they I don't think I don't
- 4:10Speaker 1: think they took it.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Oh well, they took the guy right in this year.
- 4:15Speaker 3: But he's a major project.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah.
- 4:18Speaker 1: So do you think, uh, do you think Ojomo will
- 4:20Speaker 1: get the kind of deal that Milton Williams got?
- 4:24Speaker 3: And that's funny. We actually talked about that on Monday Show.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Milt Williams was a true run restricted free agent and was.
- 4:34Speaker 3: He's a power player. He's perfect for an odd man
- 4:38Speaker 3: front because he's so physical. He can handle two blockers
- 4:42Speaker 3: if need be. He's explosive, but he doesn't have Joba's quickness.
- 4:46Speaker 3: But he's just a better technically, a better football player.
- 4:49Speaker 3: That's the way we've seen around the league. I don't
- 4:52Speaker 3: see him getting I don't see it, Mike. He's got
- 4:54Speaker 3: pass rusher, he's a little bit better pressures to Milton Williams,
- 4:57Speaker 3: but overall, Williams is seen as a better football player. No,
- 5:00Speaker 3: I don't I see it as although the boy that
- 5:04Speaker 3: the tackle numbers are exploding, but I could see low twenties.
- 5:08Speaker 3: The Eagles, we were told they were out at around
- 5:10Speaker 3: twenty four million to bring Williams back of Washington. As
- 5:14Speaker 3: I noted, was in on Jalen Phillips, they were out
- 5:17Speaker 3: at around twenty two million. But when those are heage rushers,
- 5:22Speaker 3: when you look at Mike defensive tackles, those numbers are
- 5:27Speaker 3: going up too. We talked about Jalen Carter on the show.
- 5:30Speaker 3: You're looking at thirty three to thirty five million a year.
- 5:32Speaker 3: I mean that's if I'm Drew Rosenhals, you're probably gonna
- 5:35Speaker 3: want to You probably don't want to do a deal
- 5:38Speaker 3: for less than thirty five million that Remember, Mike, these
- 5:41Speaker 3: numbers don't go down.
- 5:41Speaker 2: They go up, always go up, They never go down.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Let's look at that edge spot where obviously the Eagles
- 5:48Speaker 1: made the trade for Jonathan Grenard. They do got two
- 5:50Speaker 1: young players there. They've got Jenson, They've got Nolan Smith.
- 5:54Speaker 2: But for how much longer?
- 5:56Speaker 3: All right? So Grenard signed a four year extent. The
- 6:00Speaker 3: first two years are fully guarantees. He's going to be
- 6:02Speaker 3: here long time. We don't know if it will be
- 6:06Speaker 3: what he could. He seemed to think that he's going
- 6:08Speaker 3: to be a full going training camp to start when
- 6:10Speaker 3: they when they start practicing in late July. But bottom liners,
- 6:13Speaker 3: they're counting on him big time. They increase his pay
- 6:15Speaker 3: from just over nineteen million to twenty five million a year.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Actually it's more than that. If you add all the
- 6:22Speaker 3: bells and if you add the pre game roster bonuses
- 6:25Speaker 3: and what workout bonuses it it actually gets it closer
- 6:28Speaker 3: to thirty million a season. But the bottom line is
- 6:32Speaker 3: he's going to be here a while. Then the other
- 6:34Speaker 3: side this season is Jaled Sunt and Nolan Smith. Now
- 6:38Speaker 3: Jalic Sunt Mike they could extend his contract after this season.
- 6:42Speaker 3: They'll look to do that. If he kicks butt, I
- 6:44Speaker 3: mean if he that was actually on the on the
- 6:48Speaker 3: show that dropped today that that's was the big discussion
- 6:51Speaker 3: for Jeff and I What is that? What is that
- 6:53Speaker 3: contract going to look like? Well, it's going to determine.
- 6:56Speaker 3: It will be determined about how he plays. I mean,
- 6:58Speaker 3: if he if he has a major inco in sacks.
- 7:01Speaker 3: I mean, you saw the three interceptions, which is incredible
- 7:04Speaker 3: that we did play safety at Cornell. Let's not forget that.
- 7:06Speaker 3: So he knows how to drop. But if he has
- 7:08Speaker 3: a major increase in sacks, it's it's going to be interesting.
- 7:11Speaker 3: Now Nolan Smith, Mikey has fifth year option rolled over,
- 7:14Speaker 3: which is not a surprise because the Eagles would like
- 7:17Speaker 3: to have some leverage if he has a good year,
- 7:19Speaker 3: if he if they can't reach an extension, he could stay.
- 7:22Speaker 3: You know, he'd be under contract because he signed through
- 7:27Speaker 3: twenty seven now, because he's got his fifth year option.
- 7:30Speaker 3: But it's not like his fifth year option numbers a lot.
- 7:34Speaker 3: It's just over thirteen million. That's that's not that's not
- 7:37Speaker 3: prohibitive in the trade, so they'll be they'll have depth
- 7:40Speaker 3: next year. Two Ebukutty's contracts up after the season that
- 7:44Speaker 3: Panessa signed a one year deal, Joe Joe triumpha Inca
- 7:48Speaker 3: sign a one year deal with minimal guaranteed money. And
- 7:51Speaker 3: by the way, he misses two practices in the minuetury game.
- 7:55Speaker 3: That was really weird. So we'll see what happens with him.
- 7:57Speaker 3: So after the season, it's Grenard, it's Hint, it's Nolan Smith,
- 8:03Speaker 3: and then we'll see about Keishaw, James Newby, who's the
- 8:06Speaker 3: seventh round. He's a big long shot to make it,
- 8:08Speaker 3: but they'll have at least three guys, and quite frankly,
- 8:11Speaker 3: Mike Finji only plays three guys. He dresses foor but
- 8:13Speaker 3: then we play three at edge.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very interested to see what this edge rotation
- 8:18Speaker 1: looks like this year. And Nolan's Smith's future too. That's
- 8:21Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. We'll keep an eye
- 8:23Speaker 1: on that. For years, Adam, the linebacker position on this
- 8:27Speaker 1: team was a spot of almost a joke where we
- 8:29Speaker 1: would laugh they wouldn't draft one.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Where are they now?
- 8:33Speaker 3: It was like the Phillies outfield that currently Mike, that
- 8:37Speaker 3: the fact that Eagles were lucky to get T J. Edwards,
- 8:39Speaker 3: who was an undrafted free agent the Phillies at Brandon
- 8:41Speaker 3: Marshall was leading off today. It's crazy, but yeah, I
- 8:46Speaker 3: mean TG Edwards kind of was the start of them
- 8:48Speaker 3: turning it around it at linebacker overall. And then Zach
- 8:53Speaker 3: Blond came out of nowhere. Mike, you know, I like him.
- 8:57Speaker 3: We do the show tomorrow. It's gonna drop my Mike.
- 9:00Speaker 3: I actually bring up the Christopher Sanchez trade. Who nobody
- 9:03Speaker 3: thought anything of. Christopher Sanchez trade for Curtis Meade and
- 9:08Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez met looks like plus the best starting pitchers
- 9:11Speaker 3: in baseball. You couldn't make it up. Like we talked
- 9:14Speaker 3: about Zach Bond. Zach Bond, he made about four million
- 9:18Speaker 3: his first year, but that was to be a backup
- 9:21Speaker 3: dte rusher and special teams player and VIC Fanjo Saut differently,
- 9:24Speaker 3: he saw him as a starter, who the hell knows.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Pretty amazing to me and it's one of the most
- 9:29Speaker 3: unlikely stories other than joying my lot in the last
- 9:31Speaker 3: twenty five years. So past the season, Mike, they did
- 9:36Speaker 3: a small adjustment at Bond's contract. They gave him one
- 9:40Speaker 3: more year. They added a year to it for cap purposes,
- 9:43Speaker 3: so he's now signed through twenty eight. We'll be here
- 9:46Speaker 3: for a while. Campbell, he's in the second year of
- 9:49Speaker 3: his four year deal. Plus you've got a fifth year option.
- 9:51Speaker 3: He'll be here a while. Trot Junior, this is his
- 9:54Speaker 3: third year of his four year deal. On Mandan, this
- 9:56Speaker 3: is his second year of a four year deal. So Mike,
- 9:58Speaker 3: they're stacked at inside backer. Play to you need a third,
- 10:01Speaker 3: Trot tunish your three manager four. They did sign Deontay Lawson,
- 10:07Speaker 3: who's a very tall, angular inside backer who had an
- 10:13Speaker 3: a cry at Alabama, who he'd been a mid round pick.
- 10:15Speaker 3: And also Chance Campbell, who Bobby Bobby Kingnagles linebackers coach
- 10:19Speaker 3: coach in Tennessee so they've got a good thing going
- 10:23Speaker 3: here at inside backer. Mike, You're right as you set
- 10:25Speaker 3: it up. It's really never looked as it's remarkable me.
- 10:28Speaker 3: They lose Dean, Okay, you lose, you lose to Kobe
- 10:32Speaker 3: Dean and TG Edwards, but yet you're still really good
- 10:35Speaker 3: at inside backer.
- 10:36Speaker 2: All right, let's go to uh.
- 10:38Speaker 1: This is a very interesting one because for years corner
- 10:41Speaker 1: you had all these guys, Josh Job and guys you
- 10:44Speaker 1: know that they had been you know, just taking flyers
- 10:47Speaker 1: on who had and the selling point Adam was always
- 10:50Speaker 1: well they were high prospects. You know, they were high
- 10:54Speaker 1: school all Americans or you know, they got heard and
- 10:56Speaker 1: you know, we start.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Yes, we've seen so many of them. None of them
- 11:00Speaker 2: have made it.
- 11:01Speaker 1: So where are they at corner, which is a strength
- 11:03Speaker 1: of this team, right, Mike.
- 11:05Speaker 3: But actually, you know, Josh Sua did nothing here to
- 11:08Speaker 3: play special teams like a fifth corner. He's a starting corner. Okay,
- 11:12Speaker 3: believe this or not. And this sounds ridiculous. He's a
- 11:15Speaker 3: big reason why Dreeq Wllenrik Wollen as it were, is
- 11:19Speaker 3: with the Eagles, because Josh Job came out of nowhere.
- 11:22Speaker 3: You have to give him credit. He was their dime corner,
- 11:25Speaker 3: then Nicol. Then he was the starting corner. But he
- 11:27Speaker 3: was actually a corner because when they would go to Nicol,
- 11:30Speaker 3: Witherspoon would move inside him. It's just it's hard to believe. Mike.
- 11:34Speaker 3: I actually have no problem for the Eaglesmo going from
- 11:37Speaker 3: Josh Shuelp. But he did nothing here. He showed nothing.
- 11:40Speaker 3: That's the thing sports, Mike. People like to get on.
- 11:43Speaker 3: It's certain things, certain general managers when I think sometimes
- 11:48Speaker 3: they don't keep guys a shot. But Josh shup was
- 11:50Speaker 3: giving a shot here. Fansho kind of called him out.
- 11:52Speaker 3: He he just played with enough discipline with his hands
- 11:56Speaker 3: and he got beaten. He didn't play well here. I mean,
- 11:58Speaker 3: I don't want else to tell people, but it's right now.
- 12:01Speaker 3: For the future, obviously, it's Mitchell Corner at left corner now.
- 12:06Speaker 3: Riekwallan's contracts up after the season. Ringo doesn't play, He's
- 12:09Speaker 3: not in the rotation, but he's up after the season.
- 12:11Speaker 3: He only plays special teams. Jacquarin Bettett, Mike. He's the
- 12:15Speaker 3: forgotten man of this group. Mike. He's also who they
- 12:18Speaker 3: gave him two draft picks for. He's on the final
- 12:20Speaker 3: of his rookie deal. Jonathan Jones is on a one
- 12:23Speaker 3: year deal. Mac McWilliams is in the second year of
- 12:27Speaker 3: a four year deal. Dejeane doesn't he's not a corner anymore, Mike,
- 12:31Speaker 3: he doesn't count. They are super light at corner, Mike.
- 12:34Speaker 3: After the season, I mean, those are the really right now.
- 12:39Speaker 3: And MacWilliams did nothing. He was mostly inactive. That's a
- 12:42Speaker 3: problem past the season, Mike, they just don't have much.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Mitchell's a stud. He's one of the best corners in
- 12:48Speaker 3: the National Football League. So after that, they've got to
- 12:50Speaker 3: kind of figure it out, all right.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Adam Cavill's with US Football on four.
- 12:53Speaker 1: We're looking at the future of the Eagles defense over
- 12:56Speaker 1: the next couple of years with what they have contracts
- 12:59Speaker 1: and all that stuff.
- 13:00Speaker 2: What about safety?
- 13:02Speaker 3: All right? So Macova is in year two of a
- 13:05Speaker 3: four year deal. Second, second through seven rounds get four
- 13:10Speaker 3: year deals. First rounders get four years with a fifth
- 13:14Speaker 3: year option. Although for many years until the I gotta
- 13:20Speaker 3: say that the eleventh CBA or I can't remember, it
- 13:25Speaker 3: was twenty CB at eleven, but the first round picks
- 13:30Speaker 3: passed from fifteen to thirty two all became four years
- 13:34Speaker 3: with a fifth year option, and that was that's that
- 13:37Speaker 3: was really important for clubs. They really wanted that. But
- 13:41Speaker 3: when you look at this situation, Mike gets safety, it's
- 13:45Speaker 3: Macouba and it's Cooper Degene. Those are your safeties. Okay,
- 13:49Speaker 3: past that, Michael Carter is under contract, Mike. You know
- 13:54Speaker 3: they redid his deal. He's here, he got a salary
- 13:58Speaker 3: cut down a two point five million, but he's up
- 14:01Speaker 3: after the season. And Cole was Newski. Now he was
- 14:05Speaker 3: only a seventh front pick. Mike, He's got to prove
- 14:09Speaker 3: himself to make the team. See they we're going to eventually.
- 14:12Speaker 3: I know Andrew did his too early fifty three men roster,
- 14:17Speaker 3: but I did one just very loosely about a month ago.
- 14:21Speaker 3: I had a problem get under sixty players. It's tough.
- 14:26Speaker 3: What you struggle with when you're trying to do this
- 14:28Speaker 3: is you see a lot of guys who have upsided
- 14:31Speaker 3: his backups and that that's you know, that becomes a problem.
- 14:35Speaker 3: So it's it's really not easy to do it. But
- 14:37Speaker 3: at safety, and Marcus EPs, by the way, is up
- 14:40Speaker 3: after the season. J T. Gray will only play special team.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Andre SAMs are for safety. So really, when you look
- 14:47Speaker 3: at it past the season, it's de Gene. If Vic
- 14:50Speaker 3: Fangio Mike wants to keep him there after the season,
- 14:52Speaker 3: well we'll see. It depends on how he plays. If
- 14:56Speaker 3: he's comfortable at it, and he plays great, he'll be
- 14:58Speaker 3: safe as safety, mainly with Macouba and then lastly Mike
- 15:03Speaker 3: at nickel, it's gonna be We're still gonna see Degene
- 15:06Speaker 3: there off and on. Michael Carter can play it, Jonathan
- 15:10Speaker 3: Jones could play it. This season. They'll be fine there.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Nichol's gonna be fine, but after the season you really
- 15:18Speaker 3: have Cooper jene Is. Maybe mac McWilliams not safe, but
- 15:23Speaker 3: he also could play nickel, so he could factor an
- 15:25Speaker 3: Alle this season is a backup, but in future seasons.
- 15:28Speaker 1: That will be interesting to see if how long Fangio
- 15:33Speaker 1: like feels like he has to move to Gene around
- 15:35Speaker 1: does you know what I mean? Like, does he feel
- 15:36Speaker 1: comfortable enough that somebody else can handle that nickel spot
- 15:40Speaker 1: and then does have to keep using him there and just.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Sticks with him at safety. Did they feel like they
- 15:44Speaker 2: have enough depth at safety? It'll be very interesting to
- 15:46Speaker 2: see where his future is after this year.
- 15:49Speaker 3: It is, but we've said for months and now we're
- 15:53Speaker 3: not convinced that Fangio sees Degene as a corner. And
- 15:56Speaker 3: you know, as we mentioned when Degene was drafted, there
- 15:59Speaker 3: are a lot of teams that not think Cooper Degen
- 16:02Speaker 3: would be a quality starting corner. Now he's look, he's
- 16:06Speaker 3: showing he can play it at a solid level. He's
- 16:09Speaker 3: a lade as a nickel. It's it's gonna be interesting.
- 16:12Speaker 3: As we've talked about also on our show lastly, Mike,
- 16:16Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be tough for Coop when it comes
- 16:18Speaker 3: to be to extend his contract. Eagles are willing to
- 16:22Speaker 3: pay a buff market for an elite player, but how
- 16:25Speaker 3: do you pay him? Like what is he? That's you
- 16:29Speaker 3: have to figure out what he is going forward that
- 16:31Speaker 3: will determine what his salary is going to look like.
- 16:33Speaker 1: All right, football four, Adam Kaplan here the Eagles. You
- 16:37Speaker 1: said it on Friday, I think five weeks to training
- 16:40Speaker 1: camp and that kind of that did something for me.
- 16:42Speaker 2: It warmed my heart.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I know, because you love doing the countdown,
- 16:46Speaker 3: but it is, you know what, it's kind of like
- 16:48Speaker 3: spring training when pictures and catchers report. We know it's
- 16:51Speaker 3: only spring training, but The difference here is Mike, training
- 16:56Speaker 3: camp is way more competitive than spring training. It just
- 17:00Speaker 3: is like OTAs, this is spring training to me, it's
- 17:03Speaker 3: so soft and you don't read into anything. You just
- 17:07Speaker 3: it's just there's a lot of experimentation that there's some
- 17:10Speaker 3: things that happen to g moon to safety and we're
- 17:13Speaker 3: looking at the Tanner mckething that that sings bizarre. But overall,
- 17:16Speaker 3: it's all about training camp and yes, we look forward.
- 17:18Speaker 1: To it five weeks away. We'll be talking about it
- 17:20Speaker 1: all summer long right here on Football four. Check out
- 17:23Speaker 1: the Inside the Birds podcast on all podcasting platforms. Adam,
- 17:27Speaker 1: thanks man, thank you. He's back on Friday right here.
- 17:30Speaker 1: As we continue to count down the off season and
- 17:33Speaker 1: get you ready, we're going to have our division previews
- 17:36Speaker 1: starting with Andrew Tocheko in a couple of weeks. We'll
- 17:39Speaker 1: go through all the divisions and get his takeaways on
- 17:42Speaker 1: all the teams, and uh yeah, we're counting down to
- 17:45Speaker 1: training camp, which is in mid July right here on
- 17:48Speaker 1: the Sports Past Live on ninety seven three ESP