Latest / Eye Opener Society / Building a community through healing and meditation
Transcript
- 0:00Welcome to Without a Candle. We are your hosts. Hey guys, I'm Carla. And I'm Carly.
- 0:06Let's just jump on in, shall we? Good morning.
- 0:11Exciting. So round two with Gary. Take two.
- 0:17I'm super excited. I have no idea what we talked about the last time.
- 0:21So this is going to be fun to like just chat about all the things again and it'll be like new.
- 0:28So why don't you introduce yourself and kind of tell us who you are?
- 0:33Absolutely. My name is Gary and I run Eye Opener Society.
- 0:37This is just a show that I started four years ago and I have four years of story
- 0:43to tell you and I'll try and condense it down into one little thing.
- 0:47It started as Third Eye Meditation. That was the original show that I did.
- 0:51And that's happened because Well it started in 2022,
- 0:57And just before then I was doing well You know Typical guy from the Bronx, New York You know Solid,
- 1:05strong and whatever Never had any problems But I always practiced meditation
- 1:10But it wasn't on a spiritual level It was meditation just to calm down Because
- 1:14a lot of jobs I had Was high stress and all Yeah I had done it over 20 something years.
- 1:21And at one point during 2022, I ran into some issues, mental health,
- 1:28because we had a breakdown, my wife and I.
- 1:31I was having problems with my current job then that were very serious.
- 1:36And it was hitting at me. There was just one day, couldn't take it anymore.
- 1:41And I went home, and my wife was just inconsolably crying.
- 1:47And I've never heard a cry like that to the point where we couldn't calm her down.
- 1:52And then with every energy that I had in me, it brought up all the,
- 1:56you know, horror. Yeah, it was horror.
- 2:00And for me to experience that for the first time, it was difficult.
- 2:05I said, oh, you know, it's great to meditate. I didn't even want to meditate
- 2:10because I was afraid if I go into that meditative state,
- 2:14all of this negative energy was just going to manifest with
- 2:17me the whole time yeah i was scared and
- 2:20i just didn't want to do it so a little bit of
- 2:22a backstory um my wife she always
- 2:25makes what i call her little hex bags you know she does that for you know people
- 2:30that she's close with or they come to her and a friend of ours came you know
- 2:34to her saying hey listen i want to get pregnant and you know can you make your
- 2:37bag so we were looking for a shop a metaphysical shop in the area that was open at that time.
- 2:44So we found this little shop that the girl Jen was working from home.
- 2:50And it's Minds Eye Metaphysical.
- 2:52We went in there, and we were graced with this amazing presence. It was amazing.
- 2:59So we developed a little bit of friendship there at that time.
- 3:03But what I did see in that shop was her little flyers for all the Reiki sessions
- 3:09and all that she does and her services that she offered.
- 3:11So I always put it on the back burner because I didn't know exactly what Reiki was.
- 3:16I heard it. I knew it existed. I had no idea really what it entailed or anything.
- 3:20So i'm going through this really bad time and
- 3:24i couldn't meditate i couldn't do anything this is
- 3:272022 um so after the
- 3:30whole 2020 thing i couldn't believe how hard it
- 3:33was to find counseling therapy and it was like oh sorry we're booked for like
- 3:39the next 20 years you know sorry for your loss so i had to sit with this for
- 3:44a little while i finally found someone who was open and I started going for
- 3:47the counseling and amazingly enough, what I found out with that very first day,
- 3:52he sat me down and he's like, what I want you to do is, I forgot exactly what
- 3:55he was like, I want you to take a deep breath. I said, are you talking about meditation?
- 4:00I was like, so it hit me. So I was like, wow, so we are starting to come full
- 4:04circle with this holistic healing.
- 4:06I said, that's wonderful. I said, but I've been meditating. You don't have to
- 4:10tell me about that. I'm here for a reason.
- 4:13But it started to help. But at that same time, things were falling apart.
- 4:19And I couldn't seem to get myself out of it. And I recalled the little flyers for the Reiki.
- 4:24And I said, what is it going to hurt for me to go there? Yeah,
- 4:27and give it a shot and see what's next.
- 4:29So she had the trauma healing one. I said, we might as well go full on that.
- 4:34Rip the bandaid off. Right. So I said, let's do it. So I laid on that table.
- 4:39I had my eyes closed the whole time. I was relaxed.
- 4:44Jen did whatever Jen did. And as soon as the session was over,
- 4:49I am, I'm a living testament to the fact that I got, I just sat up and I was like, this is amazing.
- 4:57Why am I even worrying about any of these troubles? They're so small.
- 5:02And I said, you know what? I always wanted to start my own business.
- 5:06As soon as I walked out that door, I started planning. I got home.
- 5:09I started third eye meditation, which was a meditation counseling.
- 5:14And although it didn't really take off the way I wanted it to,
- 5:17the surprising little nugget with that i started
- 5:20doing a little podcast as a way
- 5:23to um promote my business without
- 5:26spending money i said this is great started on youtube and all well the podcast
- 5:31started to take all it launched and i was like i said look at all these views
- 5:36so i just started going into it and we were talking about all sorts of things
- 5:40uh mental health because uh my stepdaughter hannah I mean, she was very open with it.
- 5:44She had a very traumatic childhood, and she still suffers today from a lot of
- 5:49anxiety, depression, you know, whatever else, name it.
- 5:53But she was able to freely talk about it, which helps. And I realized that the
- 5:57more you talk and you release that energy, it helps.
- 6:01So we talked a lot about that, and then we started going down a few rabbit holes
- 6:04because I'm a huge conspiracy theorist person.
- 6:07I love that. I love going down those rabbit holes. So it was a mishmash of a
- 6:11lot of stuff With the original Eye-opener society And then after a while we had another.
- 6:19Traumatic thing We had part divorce And we had to leave that house Immediately
- 6:24which was so saddening Because we had a built-in studio So the whole eye-opener
- 6:29society Had a studio Yeah.
- 6:32And we were so comfortable with that, but with all of the, and I call it drama now, but it's worse.
- 6:38We had to leave. We had to find a place. You know, my wife and I went and found,
- 6:42the first thing we found was a smaller apartment and no big deal.
- 6:46But because of Hannah's divorce, she couldn't talk openly on the air.
- 6:51That's not a good thing legally.
- 6:53So she stepped away. She was going through all of her traumas at the time.
- 6:57So i went back and started doing solo
- 7:00episodes again and then um once
- 7:03we moved right there around the christmas time uh my
- 7:06wife was in a car accident nothing spectacular but
- 7:09it was during a tremendous snowstorm i couldn't get to the
- 7:12hospital and i started breaking down again and
- 7:15i just don't know why uh and i
- 7:18started doing the wrong things again oh
- 7:21she's in an accident she's okay but now i'm thinking financial
- 7:25loss we just lost a card i just spent money and now we
- 7:27got to go out and get another and i started allowing these things
- 7:30and i think just because at that time where
- 7:33we were sitting new change new roof over i
- 7:36had new way of going about life it started to manifest again and i said well
- 7:41it's not going to take me over that much this time i said i know what to do
- 7:47now yeah so i started going back to my show and i started talking about it i
- 7:52went back for another therapy session,
- 7:54at least now in my current job they offer it, so it's a little bit freely accessible
- 7:58now for me, which I was like, oh, thank you so much for that.
- 8:02I went through that therapy session.
- 8:05And I started to get better. And that's when I started realizing,
- 8:07you know, the meditation, the spirituality, the metaphysics,
- 8:12this is not some phony mumbo jumbo.
- 8:16This is actual healing and it works and people need to accept it.
- 8:23And I'm not saying dump all of your medications and stop seeing your doctor.
- 8:27I mean, I'm not a doctor myself, but this is something that should be incorporated or at least tried.
- 8:32Yeah so the show started
- 8:34going on um i found a co-host
- 8:38jennifer miller she was a guest on the show way back
- 8:41when she worked at that time it was
- 8:44just a great connection yeah she helped me through that uh period and then she
- 8:49got to leave so i went back to solo again and then i don't know i was introduced
- 8:55to tiktok and i caught it right at the tail end when it was still good you know
- 9:00yeah And I just started watching this girl,
- 9:03Lizzie, and I'm watching her stuff.
- 9:05And I'm like, this girl's got something to say. And it kept popping up on my
- 9:10feed. I started listening.
- 9:12I started going into her Instagram. I said, I got to have her on the show.
- 9:16And I just thought maybe as a guest, but I said, she has more to say than just a guest.
- 9:22So I said, I'm just going to wing it. And I shot a text and I was like,
- 9:25hey, do you want to call her stuff?
- 9:27I can't ask her to make a podcast. That's awesome. Yeah. She got back to me
- 9:31so excited because she always wanted to do her own show. Yeah.
- 9:35And it worked. And we became like integrated instantly.
- 9:41She was able to see the eye opener society vision.
- 9:45She was able to give me feedback, give a little bit of what she would like and
- 9:49a little bit of, you know, I gave her what I would like. Yeah.
- 9:52And she's still on the show to this day. She's an amazing person.
- 9:56Energy.by.lizzie. L-I-Z-Z-I-E.
- 10:01And that's her TikTok handle. If anybody wants to follow her,
- 10:03she's amazing because she works with all this architecture of energy.
- 10:07And she gets downloads crazy. And
- 10:10you can tell by energy. And she tries to figure it out and interpret it.
- 10:15If anybody was to work with her, it's chaotic, but it works.
- 10:20I worked with her in two sessions.
- 10:22Very chaotic, but it breaks down. So we have this new vision of eye-opener society, all right?
- 10:30And it's spectacular because in energy work, we spoke about this.
- 10:38Words, they mean something, right?
- 10:40Every time you say something, it comes back at you.
- 10:43So I said, what's next for eye-opener society? Where are we going with this?
- 10:47I said, you know what? I don't like the word podcast anymore.
- 10:51It's So yesterday I said I want something more So I said you know what I'm just
- 10:56going to drop the word podcast And just I'm The High Opener Society show it's
- 11:01a show And since I've done that,
- 11:05Metaphysically It changes Yeah it starts to Numbers start to rise up a little
- 11:09bit more Because it's something new I mean I didn't make any changes,
- 11:13But I feel that the show is now going to go other places because I see a bigger vision.
- 11:19So I want you to use both to interview me. And then I want you to use before
- 11:24the end to ask me what direction I'm going.
- 11:27Because I got something I would like to share with you on your show.
- 11:31Okay. I'm excited. And I share a little bit of what I just mentioned to Carly
- 11:38like last week about our bigger picture.
- 11:42I don't want to say a whole lot But do you remember now? No,
- 11:45Like what if this was done in front of Oh yes I'll put it that way right Yeah,
- 11:53I feel like that kind of You know And that sparked something You got excited
- 11:57about that Yes it did Okay Yeah But I want to hear again,
- 12:03um how you guys connected
- 12:06okay and that just that organic
- 12:09conversation and yeah i'm
- 12:13just excited to if you'll rehash that for me so it started with you and i sitting
- 12:18at the kitchen table that no longer exists in here and um we were chatting about
- 12:26something like we do and you looked at me and go man that would have been good
- 12:30as like a podcast we should have recorded that or something,
- 12:33and somebody else walked in and said yeah a
- 12:36podcast would be great i think it might have been jamesa maybe maybe
- 12:39and i looked at you and i was like
- 12:42fuck no like we're not adding another thing right and then i gave it a week
- 12:47and i started thinking about it and i do my thing and i go research and i get
- 12:50on facebook i join all the groups because why not right join all the groups
- 12:55and i start going through all like the posts and the comments just to kind of
- 12:58see if My questions can be answered, right?
- 13:00And I wasn't quite getting them. So I made a post in this group.
- 13:05I don't even remember. It's called like podcasters on Facebook or something.
- 13:09Yeah. And I made a post with me like, hey, I'm new. Where do I start?
- 13:13Like give me all the tips and tricks, right?
- 13:15Well, there's a couple comments. Gary was one of them. And something about him
- 13:19and the energy off of that comment, he was the only one I commented back to.
- 13:23And I was like, yeah, I'll email you. He dropped his email.
- 13:26He's like email me you know ask all the questions I'm
- 13:29happy to help and I think it was a couple days later
- 13:32I finally did and I emailed him and I
- 13:35was like hey you know thank you so much like this is what I'm looking
- 13:38for this is like I know nothing you know and he sent back like a story of like
- 13:44all the information and I'm like that this is fantastic and it just went from
- 13:48there like we just back and forth every couple days you know because work and
- 13:52all this stuff and um it got down to, um.
- 13:57He's like i would love to have you guys on my show and
- 14:00i'm like wonderful and i don't know i think it
- 14:03was your idea like you wanted to come down and visit like here's
- 14:07here's our date and i told carla i'm like hey there's
- 14:10this guy he's gonna come down and she's like cool let's
- 14:13do it and it went from there and that first
- 14:16time you came down you helped us with the crap soundboard that i got off fucking
- 14:21amazon i was a piece of shit i was like i don't even know why i got that um
- 14:26growing pains yeah for sure that didn't last long literally it didn't like maybe
- 14:31two episodes not even not even because we use that to record yours and here we are yeah.
- 14:37Yeah so um that's my take
- 14:40and my view on it you have anything you want to add or yeah
- 14:43i think you pretty much
- 14:46hate it i as soon as i hear somebody say hey i'm starting a
- 14:49podcast you know can you help yeah i'm always
- 14:52so scared i'm like please let me be the first one to reach the inbox because
- 14:55the worst thing I think with anybody
- 14:58starting out with podcasting is the scammers that
- 15:01come on there because even to today I
- 15:04have to block messages you know from my Facebook or anything because it's just
- 15:09overwhelming people oh I'll help you with this and you know and they're all
- 15:12from other countries and you know yeah I said please don't let it happen to
- 15:16these people I said let me get in there and just say this is the way it is yeah
- 15:20this is how you do it and I think though,
- 15:24There was more of a crazy connection that I felt for everything.
- 15:29I said, and the fact that not only is it a podcast, I said, they have this metaphysical
- 15:34shop and they have all of these services. And I love metaphysical shops.
- 15:39And I was like, this is amazing.
- 15:41I said, how great would it be for me to go down and do my first road trip and
- 15:46actually take my show on the road?
- 15:48And ever since then, like I said, the both of you became instant family.
- 15:54I can't even say friends.
- 15:55It's just you guys are family. And now I just want to expand everything with
- 16:01you guys and integrate and everything else.
- 16:04Daydream together is always a bigger dream. Yeah. And more people can see that
- 16:08vision. Yeah, for sure. And feed that vision. Yeah.
- 16:12When we were going into season two and we knew we wanted to interview our community, right?
- 16:18We had just started interviewing people on random days, you know,
- 16:23trying to work them in the schedule. And it started getting really chaotic.
- 16:26And Carla was like, Carly, we really need to do like one or two days with just
- 16:30a massive amount of people.
- 16:32And so we planned it, right? We had all the things.
- 16:35And two weeks ago, I looked at Carla. I was like, is this going to be crazy?
- 16:40Do you think Carrie will come down?
- 16:41And she's like, we can just ask.
- 16:44Well, because you just had new awareness. Yeah. And it's a more difficulty. Yeah. Right?
- 16:50Yeah. And I was going to get within an hour. You figured it out.
- 16:53You fixed it. Yeah, thank you for that question.
- 16:55But that had me in my head for like a week because I'm like,
- 16:59how am I going to figure out the sound, try to make sure that that's all good
- 17:04with back-to-back ones? And I'm like, we need Gary.
- 17:08We need Gary, help me! Going back to like the family thing, like we knew that
- 17:14even if you couldn't be here, we would have done a Zoom and you would have been
- 17:18like, this is what you need to do, right?
- 17:20Like we knew we couldn't have counted on you. And that is...
- 17:23Like amazing because we don't have that very
- 17:26often right so like having that type of support is
- 17:29invaluable so thank you first and foremost
- 17:32and even the way you guys show up right yeah you guys
- 17:36show up like when carly has family come in they understand that
- 17:39we we still have other things to do when my mom visits she knows
- 17:42that we still have things to do and i love
- 17:45that you guys um still show up
- 17:48and i appreciate that i appreciate that we have things going on yeah Even Melissa
- 17:53Give me the list I'll check everybody Right Like she's helped We have Nick out
- 17:58there Like it's Just a fellowship Yeah It's fantastic We love that so much Yeah So what have you.
- 18:06Learned The last Day Or so Well I've learned that It's great to get away And
- 18:13come help people out It's great to get away from work And take an extra day Yeah,
- 18:19But again You guys did need something.
- 18:23You needed help. As small as it was, it doesn't matter. I said,
- 18:27I'm going to make an eight-hour drive because I love going down there for first of all.
- 18:31But beyond that, it's like this is kind of what I like doing as well. But I learned that.
- 18:39It's just like an eye-opener society, and that's the word, society.
- 18:42We are all bonded together.
- 18:45And I've learned that immensely through the past few years.
- 18:49But to come and help out and sit here and see, because just so the audience
- 18:54knows, I was kind of behind the scenes doing the background,
- 18:57the actual recordings of the shows for production, basically.
- 18:59So I've seen it from a different angle.
- 19:02And the guests that you've had in here, some of them really sat as I'm sitting.
- 19:08I said, wow, I'm here immersed live in this, and I'm feeling the energy from
- 19:13these guests, and it's very emotional, it's very touching, it's very uplifting,
- 19:17and that too, that expands that community.
- 19:22Learning about new people, seeing new people, and being able to help friends,
- 19:26or family, I call you guys family now.
- 19:29But that's what I've learned. I've learned how much it is to actually step up
- 19:33and help and actually be there and be involved in it.
- 19:38You know, that's amazing. That's the purpose of the support.
- 19:41We love that so much. So going back to your story and your spirituality,
- 19:48how has getting into the metaphysics and getting a spiritual practice daily
- 19:54helped you through those mental challenges? How has that helped you?
- 19:59It's it's pretty amazing because.
- 20:02I've always had different views. I was raised Catholic, so, you know,
- 20:06obviously there's a story there.
- 20:08It seems like everybody raised Catholic winds up on this side of the fence.
- 20:12No offense to anybody who is Catholic, but what we have to understand,
- 20:16there's dogmas with all religions.
- 20:19Once we erase those dogmas and we really kind of break it down,
- 20:23it's all metaphysical in some way, shape, or form. And so I was always learning
- 20:29little tidbits, but nothing more than when I went through all this emotion.
- 20:35What helped me is to really open my eyes and say, wow, metaphysics,
- 20:40just from what I hear, there's so many aspects to it.
- 20:43And even all the conspiracy theories and the rabbit holes I go down to,
- 20:47I said, there's a correlation between all of this, you know.
- 20:52So once I started to figure it out in my own head, my basic modality is meditation.
- 20:59Obviously, that's where I fall back on all the time. That's what I use.
- 21:04Spiritually, it instantly grounds me. At this point in my life,
- 21:08I don't have to sit, find that quiet spot and do my meditation.
- 21:10I could remain all day in a meditative state.
- 21:14It's just a different frequency of the mind.
- 21:18And what that does, though, it's constantly telling you all that negative shit
- 21:24that's around you is not allowed in.
- 21:27Yeah. You can push it away. Yeah.
- 21:29That's the main thing that I learned. And beyond that, then I started finding
- 21:33all these other modalities. And I started getting into the oracle cards.
- 21:37And I started to get into just intuition from working with other psychics.
- 21:41And I said, this, again, is a society. And there's people out there,
- 21:46no matter what you do, whether it's a Reiki session, whether it is a,
- 21:49you know, give me any other modality. Yeah.
- 21:53Helps and it i think it helps more than modern medicine does i love that so
- 22:00as of recently we now share a study this so um has a bit a couple weeks ago when i i sent you um.
- 22:19I sent you some information on one thing and that did sit with you but being
- 22:27is just not quite right so you found I have something,
- 22:35but through that you found the university,
- 22:39that I am Sedona so how has that shifted over the last month I'm not going to
- 22:47chew too much on that simply because it mixes in with the direction you know,
- 22:50I'm going to be surprised.
- 22:52So we'll still learn. So we'll still learn. But yeah, it was interesting because
- 22:55I've always been, I hate the word certification and being certified.
- 23:01I mean, if you have, well, we all have natural gifts.
- 23:06It's just, we don't know how to sometimes bring them forward.
- 23:10People don't understand. We've been kind of deprogrammed from this.
- 23:13So let's just say you are a psychic, right?
- 23:16You have this ability, you can see, you know, into the future, whatever. may be.
- 23:22Why do you need a certification on the wall for that? That's always been my problem with that.
- 23:28But at the same time, this entire field is all about learning.
- 23:33There's a bunch of stuff I have no idea about. And I'm learning your Akashic records and all of that.
- 23:39That's amazing stuff. I said, I would love to learn this. So I said,
- 23:44let me start small before I start jumping ahead.
- 23:47And just when I was on your website, Appalachian Rootworks, Rooted and Roons,
- 23:50check them out. Thank you.
- 23:53Um, but I seen that, you know, some of your certifications came from this University
- 23:56of Sedona. So I said, I looked it up real quick.
- 23:59I said, it's affordable, which is always a big thing. I know everybody's got
- 24:03that problem financially.
- 24:04I said, let me start a base, you know, let me start getting some sort of knowledge
- 24:09and, uh, having that certificate.
- 24:11Cause I think it does help somewhat. Yeah.
- 24:15You know, a lot of people want to see that, that you are trained,
- 24:17you know, but here's the thing, cause I could get that certification and then
- 24:22I could go and teach you how I meditate not how instructors taught me how to
- 24:26meditate you know there's always,
- 24:28Because I think it becomes a business, you know, just buy that certification
- 24:32and whatnot because I could do the same thing.
- 24:34But it's good. It's a very good class. It's really giving me that foundation
- 24:40that you need to start understanding the metaphysical side of it from the view
- 24:47of a classroom rather than from just saying, hey, you just need a certification.
- 24:51It's giving you an actual structured form where I could go online.
- 24:56And it's all online. So it's at my pace. Yeah.
- 24:59And it's fantastic. It's been working. It really has.
- 25:02They have some amazing YouTube documentaries as well. So that's one of my favorite things.
- 25:09So now I am still working through that program.
- 25:15And I'll probably be a student of that program for the rest of my life.
- 25:17Right. Now, that's kind of tricky, right? I love it.
- 25:22And I still go watch, you know, all those videos and stuff repeatedly.
- 25:26But I'm not sure I'll ever be finished with it you know.
- 25:31But Carly and I also have kind of been back and forth with the certification
- 25:37thing too and it's taken a while for me to wrap my head around that some people
- 25:46just need to see that it's kind of like with our modalities does that make sense?
- 25:51Matt for example is a medium who uses tarot to help share his story but he doesn't need tarot.
- 26:01The client on the other side of the table needs him to use tarot.
- 26:05So I kind of see the certifications like that too. Um,
- 26:11But, you know, there's things that I do that I don't have a certificate for.
- 26:15And when I share that kind of perspective is if I had to choose someone with
- 26:22a certification or if I had to choose someone with six years experience,
- 26:26give me the experience. Yeah. Right. You're sure.
- 26:30I do like some of these classes because what I'm finding is that even though
- 26:36I know it, sometimes it's tricky to articulate it. and it's tricky to share
- 26:42and tricky to teach, right?
- 26:43So I really appreciate being able to hear all the different variations of verbiage
- 26:49and explanation. Explanation is Reiki.
- 26:52I think Carly was shocked this year when I took another Reiki class.
- 26:55She's like, you still, you know, you're like, what? Yeah.
- 26:58But it's kind of cool. So, but I can't lie, you know, since you keep secrets really well, damn it.
- 27:08But um i kind of
- 27:10can't think about think of anything else because i
- 27:14just want to know what you're up to no do you
- 27:17have any other questions or do you have anything else you want to share i want
- 27:21to dig in um i want to know more about your meditations are you still offering
- 27:26that are you still um is that still part of the show is it separate like yeah
- 27:32very good question because I still offer it,
- 27:35and it's non-monetary.
- 27:37I'm still dealing with that because I actually did an episode,
- 27:41a solo episode, because I've seen a Facebook post and I read comments.
- 27:45Never do that. Negative energy.
- 27:48However, it did make me realize there's something going on where I feel it should be a show.
- 27:54Should spirit workers, light workers, whomever it may be, anybody in the metaphysical,
- 27:59should they charge for their work?
- 28:00And I was like, well, why shouldn't they?
- 28:03And I heard all the arguments. Well, if you're a true healer,
- 28:06you want to do it? Jesus never did.
- 28:08Jesus didn't have car insurance. Jesus didn't have a roof over his head where he needed it.
- 28:13There's a whole world now where, unfortunately, this day and age,
- 28:17we're in a 3D world. And unfortunately, money makes it go.
- 28:21Most of these holistic healers Most of these people All have shops like you
- 28:26guys You gotta pay rent, you gotta pay the electric You can't do everything For free,
- 28:32And then I say most of the light workers Most of the spiritual healers If you follow them on any.
- 28:39Social media They do a lot of sessions For free,
- 28:43well they'll sit there But now if you want
- 28:46to say Wow I'm really touched by that and I want something more personal well
- 28:50pay for it yeah that's in time it's just an exchange
- 28:53of energy many of them if you talk to them say
- 28:56i really can't afford it can work something out oh yeah use the barter system
- 29:00right the time it's it's nothing wrong with it so going back to your question
- 29:04i am working with and i work with energy right now because a lot of times if
- 29:10i go out there and i say come to me for meditation you know where i like to do something more,
- 29:16specific to the individual where i can say you
- 29:19know give me your insight what it is you're trying to achieve
- 29:22and make it much more personal rather than just a random guided
- 29:25meditation yeah reach out to me at
- 29:27eos meditation at gmail.com and i will work with you uh right now i have a few
- 29:34clients and they came to me just by chance actually so i work both a frequency
- 29:40yeah and and i found that so much better than trying to do it business-wise. Yes.
- 29:47Down the line, I would love to get that out there. I would love to start doing
- 29:50meditation classes and teaching people different ways to meditate,
- 29:55teaching the way I meditate, because that's the thing.
- 29:58You could come up with something yourself and teach it.
- 30:02Meditation is not as hard as you think. There's a lot of myths about it.
- 30:06So yeah, if I work with anybody, it's going to be more spiritually connected
- 30:10right now. But if you want to reach out to me, email me and we can do something.
- 30:14Absolutely. That's awesome.
- 30:17Do you have one to add to that? I'm just excited for that because that also
- 30:23allows organic growth of word of mouth and refills. Yeah.
- 30:29And that is long-term the best kind of growth.
- 30:36Oh, 100%. I feel like that is what kind of.
- 30:41Makes the long-term clients not the one-time
- 30:44sessions you know what i mean right like when you really
- 30:47have that testimony from you know auntie and she's like you need to go to this
- 30:52and she full-on like this has helped me all the things and now she's sending
- 30:57her friends and she's sending her her family to you and they're gonna take her
- 31:02testimony into account being like Because it's exhausting for a long time.
- 31:06We spent so much energy trying to convince others that they needed us. Yeah, right.
- 31:13And that doesn't always work because they may not know that they need something. Yeah.
- 31:19Does that make sense? It does. Yeah. So I'm sure you have seen the structure
- 31:23of how we make our Facebook posts.
- 31:25It's just day-to-day posts now, like trying to just show people the everyday
- 31:30stuff, not trying to sell them something.
- 31:32Yeah we'll mention like hey we've got this new thing
- 31:35or hey you know we have a service day but we do
- 31:38have to you know remind people of those things sometimes but
- 31:41it's not a hard stuff almost go up
- 31:45before they're published right um because
- 31:48we we are working on a wait list often you know
- 31:51um and the other commitment so i have a there's
- 31:54a question after this but one of our commitments to ourselves
- 31:57in 2026 was allowing ourselves
- 32:01more time and honoring our
- 32:04value right because in years past we would fill the schedule so full for everyone
- 32:11else but we didn't put ourselves on the schedule right so that shifted and so
- 32:16how in the last you know uh with new awareness, how are you finding.
- 32:24And being reminded of your value?
- 32:27I, just through my show alone, a lot of it,
- 32:31Everything is energy. And just like I said, even with the meditation,
- 32:36clients, getting people in, you're working with people. You're working with those energies.
- 32:41You have to understand. And I am a living witness because my wife,
- 32:46Melissa, who's here, she has these amazing gifts.
- 32:51And she's so powerful.
- 32:54But she's trying to understand them. And if she tries to work,
- 32:57it depletes her entire system.
- 33:00That's where valuing yourself comes in. You have to, in this type of field,
- 33:06understand you are the healer.
- 33:09You're the most important person. But if you're healing through any modality, that is important.
- 33:15You're expending so much energy that you do need that time to step back and
- 33:20say, I need time for me so I can heal me before I can heal others.
- 33:27That's what I've learned. I've learned through my job, my regular nine to five,
- 33:31where I'm working all the time. I need time for myself.
- 33:34Because if I'm doing that all the time, I can't explore all these other fun
- 33:38things that I really want to do.
- 33:39So I'm learning that. And that's what I've learned about valuing myself.
- 33:43And we've been more forward, right?
- 33:45Like when someone comes in for a Reiki session or an attunement or,
- 33:50you know, a reading with Carly, there's more sacrifice that we choose to do
- 33:56before the client even wants it.
- 33:59So if we have an energy work day, most of the time we're fasting, right? Right.
- 34:03And if we're not on full fast, then we're definitely fasting from low vibration
- 34:08consumptions, right? Right.
- 34:10So physically, that's different kinds of food. So meat free. Right.
- 34:16And then, you know, energetically, I'm not listening. I don't listen to the
- 34:19radio or watch TV much anyway.
- 34:22But I'm definitely, you know, listening to those audio books or my mantra music,
- 34:28you know, that kind of stuff.
- 34:30And so there's more sacrifice before people show up. Going out to dinner.
- 34:36So that's family time sacrifice that we do for our clients as well.
- 34:42So it's not just a day of services. And you have the same concepts, right?
- 34:46So to get into that mindset, to be prepared, to offer a practice.
- 34:55There are sacrifices yeah absolutely they're wrong
- 34:58and that's it's great that you bring that up because a
- 35:01lot of people don't realize that if you go into a practitioner say oh let's just
- 35:04use reiki i'm gonna go in that and that practitioner has just been sucking up
- 35:09all the low vibrations and all day long saying well i'm just gonna do the session
- 35:12eight yeah that's being placed back now on the client and people don't realize
- 35:16that and even a client of mine like a guy in touch with me at night oh please
- 35:21i need a oracle reading i need enough,
- 35:24and I sat I was like I was not in any space to pull those cards out and I just
- 35:29had to say I'll get you first thing in the morning it'll be a lot different I could do,
- 35:33for me it's great when they understand that
- 35:36because I don't want to just pull a card with some
- 35:39weak reading or something that's probably not going to be
- 35:42related because my energies are now going into that
- 35:45card so you're absolutely right there is a lot of sacrifice that's
- 35:48got to go on for even the smallest things and so there's uh
- 35:51and then aftercare right yeah so um energetic
- 35:54hygiene yeah is a thing yeah right so
- 35:57doing our clearings for ourselves doing our meditations for ourselves um uh
- 36:03yeah yes there's aftercare as well yeah uh so when you get an hour session or
- 36:08an hour meditation you don't just get an hour oh you don't get a day before
- 36:13you usually get a day after of what we.
- 36:18Have to offer. Yeah. And for me, if I do stuff at home, I do extra because I have a child in my home.
- 36:27You know, I have a very small house. I don't have a dedicated space that I can
- 36:31go in where he's not, you know, so I take extra precautions on top of that.
- 36:36And thankfully, I do have a couple clients that do readings with me from a Facebook
- 36:42group that are just regulars now.
- 36:44And they understand like if they message me at any
- 36:47point in the day they know I'm they're not getting a
- 36:50reading from me right away most of the time it's going to be the next day when
- 36:53I have time to prepare so um something I would suggest for you going forward
- 36:57with your practice is just because you work from home um or remotely wherever
- 37:02you decide because I know you want to travel office hours are important and
- 37:07setting those boundaries right setting those boundaries and
- 37:09those office hours um and if that's just saturday
- 37:12evening from six until you know
- 37:15nine then you're either on
- 37:18my appointment list or you're on the wait list like you
- 37:21do not get full access
- 37:24to me 24 7 no
- 37:28and if it's emergency maybe there's an
- 37:30exception but it comes with an emergency cost right if
- 37:33you call emergency hg repair what happens right
- 37:37you need to be a little boy the cry wolf actually yeah
- 37:39so and that also helps the
- 37:43client um understand not just
- 37:46the value um but they
- 37:50may boundaries and that they may need um to also learn to write self-regulate
- 37:56right right so with meditation that is another good point like yes if you need
- 38:02me i am here during my business hours or at an emergency cost.
- 38:09But so we don't have this again. Let me teach you a self-regulation session first.
- 38:16And that might even be a go-to for your clients before they become a bigger
- 38:24part of your energy work clientele.
- 38:26So moving forward, Carly and I had talked about with our long-term ranking clients,
- 38:33I may request that they have a clearing first.
- 38:38Because if we are spending our, even if it's just an hour a week,
- 38:43which is pretty typical, a weekly session,
- 38:46if we're spending an hour a week and we're not making amazing progress,
- 38:51or we're not having amazing results, then there's probably a reason why.
- 38:55Right so let's clear some of the stagnant energy let's clear some of the attachments
- 39:01and let's work on the essence of you right um,
- 39:09Yeah, because, you know, it's just, it's a lot more than that.
- 39:13It is. It's a lot more than that. It is.
- 39:15I mean, even meditation is supposed to calm everything. Like,
- 39:18my problem with it, I could go into a deep meditative state.
- 39:22People don't realize, at some point, I've got to go back to the 3D world.
- 39:25And I take so much energy, and you're getting forward to making that transformation.
- 39:30There's ways around it. Like, I like to stay in my 3D, you know,
- 39:33in my meditative state in the 3D world.
- 39:36But sometimes that's not very realistic. I do that with the Akashic Records
- 39:40sometimes and depending on the workload of the mundane life that,
- 39:46being in my records bogs me down by the end of the day I'm like I should have
- 39:51only done like an hour you know half day,
- 39:55fuck you know.
- 39:59But sometimes it's just nice because to me being in my records is kind of being
- 40:05in a meditative state as well it's a very soft.
- 40:08It's very loving. It's very just,
- 40:11I don't, it's not really you work, but it does give me an uplifted feeling, right? Right.
- 40:17So, yeah, I totally get wanting to be in that all the time.
- 40:21So, I just heard you transcendental. Let me, am I saying that right?
- 40:28We'll come back to that. Transcendent? No.
- 40:32Transdental? It sounded different in my head. Okay. Well, we'll circle back.
- 40:36Transdental meditation. Yeah.
- 40:37That's more of the Hollywood. That's more of the expensive meditation. where
- 40:41it's mantra based um i don't teach it i don't know much of it yeah uh i have
- 40:46my own ways of doing things everybody's going to develop their own way of doing
- 40:50a meditative state that state of like blissness yeah yeah right yeah yeah you
- 40:56could get that any form of meditations yeah,
- 40:59man so do you want to share a little bit about your conspiracy theories like what's your favorite,
- 41:05my biggest like when it comes to going down rabbit holes
- 41:08i've always been fascinated with outer space and
- 41:12so obviously all the aliens and ufos and
- 41:15stuff from an early age i always looked up in the skies oh what is that oh i
- 41:18saw something that just didn't fit right so but it was normal childhood curiosity
- 41:25basically until i witnessed my first actual ufo encounter um in upstate new york and.
- 41:34And to see this thing, to witness it, and when you take everybody else's stories
- 41:40and you start piecing it together, and there was a dog that was involved,
- 41:44and the dog's barking like crazy up at the sky.
- 41:47And to witness this huge craft that is obviously not made with human.
- 41:54You know, within our terrestrial, you know, earth, and the way it moves and
- 41:59other people seeing it with you.
- 42:01I became so fascinated and
- 42:05i fell down so many rabbit holes and now here we
- 42:08are in 2026 and there's uh congressional
- 42:11hearings from whistleblowers saying we have
- 42:14alien bodies we have alien craft we reverse
- 42:18engineered a lot of this stuff so now when you're looking up you're.
- 42:21Probably seeing something that it was made by us but it
- 42:24was reverse engineered so yeah that's one of my
- 42:26biggest uh conspiracies and at
- 42:29this point conspiracy theory is just a word it's i don't
- 42:32like it but i like to use it because i throw it back at every time
- 42:35i like the word concept like it's a concept right
- 42:38yeah i don't have concepts in reality so um
- 42:42andy palmer and john l webster um
- 42:46of the um spirit yes
- 42:49spirit release academy and their founder um terrence
- 42:52palmer thank you carly sometimes i
- 42:55get so excited i lose all things i'm just like how can i share this
- 42:58um they talk about um dark
- 43:02energy attachments that have never been human
- 43:05right so what does that mean though you know what i mean right and this group
- 43:12has thousands of documented um Cases That they pulled from And it's just Adding to that Yeah.
- 43:25It's cases done by a certified protocol, okay, with an 80% success rate.
- 43:34Yes, and I've actually seen that YouTube video. And that was good.
- 43:37Like, when we're looking at it, when you're actually taking statistics and tying
- 43:42it all into, like, medical field almost.
- 43:44Yeah, it makes the reality of paranormal, whatever you want to call it, more of a reality.
- 43:50Yeah. And it's just the way we live.
- 43:53Yeah. You know, we are living in a 3D, but there's a whole bunch of other stuff
- 43:57going on around us from all different dimensions.
- 44:01You know, science can prove some things, but can't prove others.
- 44:05But my experience with a UFO, even if nobody believed me, I know that was a personal experience.
- 44:12I felt everything there. People that see ghosts, they know what they witnessed.
- 44:18Everybody has a story. Yeah. Speaking of stories, before we go any further.
- 44:22I did not throw in because i wanted to when
- 44:24it comes to eye-opener society and the word society meant
- 44:28a lot to me uh so people know i'm
- 44:31not the only show on my show that i do want to give them a lot of credit because
- 44:36they really work hard and just the paranormal sparked it um i started with ann
- 44:42lund who does haunted and waiting and she's a childhood friend uh back in high
- 44:47school she lived in a haunted house,
- 44:49and I was there. I experienced it. I'm glad you do.
- 44:53I just came to her with the idea of saying, you need to do something.
- 44:55But you can check her out at hauntedandwaiting.blog because she's an inspiring writer.
- 45:00She does her own paranormal hunts, especially in the outdoors.
- 45:04She goes to all these abandoned places.
- 45:06She's full of fantastic true stories.
- 45:10And I'm sure the blog goes on. She should. And you could probably have her on
- 45:14the show, too. I highly recommend her. She's really...
- 45:18And her storytelling is fantastic. And, you know, just the way she, her words flow.
- 45:23So, Hilton and Waiting is one podcast that's on Eye Opener Society.
- 45:29And I have Elaine R. King.
- 45:32She's been with me since Spudder Eye Meditation. She's always been quietly in the background.
- 45:36And I always had a link to her because, and she just, she does tarot readings and astrology.
- 45:41Her astrology readings are so fascinating. Yeah.
- 45:45My childhood friend Ashley She's big in astrology And every time her new episode
- 45:51comes I always send it to Ashley I'm like listen And then we go back and forth
- 45:55for like hours About how like accurate it is And our lives are It's funny That's
- 45:59great Because she I feel she is extremely accurate So where is she located?
- 46:04She is in Indiana She can be found She does all of her work Where in Indiana?
- 46:10Oh, I forgot the town. We're like how far away?
- 46:13Do you want to take a ride now? Maybe. Yeah. I will get the actual location.
- 46:20But visit our website, elainesarcanetarot.com.
- 46:24Yeah, look it up. Because she just works so often. You can even text her.
- 46:28And I think for her accuracy, she really does not charge what she should be
- 46:34charging. She's undervaluing.
- 46:37Yes, she is completely undervaluing herself. So I've had that conversation with
- 46:41her, but this is how her energy works. And she's amazing.
- 46:44So Elaine's Arcane Oracle is the other one.
- 46:48And since Anne Lund wanted in waiting, she got me back in touch with another
- 46:54old friend, Sunset Child.
- 46:57Sunset Child opened up so many doorways for me when I had a quick phone interview with her.
- 47:02I was like, okay, just stop talking. Stop, stop, stop, stop recording.
- 47:06I said, this is where we could get the show on the air. she lives
- 47:09spiritually in a fifth dimension six seven
- 47:12day why limit yourself to dimension absolutely yeah
- 47:15so everything she hears sees feels
- 47:19her theory she develops sometimes you gotta listen to the show twice because
- 47:24she's just talking and you're not understanding yeah but after a couple days
- 47:29it starts to come together somehow like wait a minute i just experienced something
- 47:33in life and I could apply to what sunset child had said.
- 47:37So sunset child's out there podcast, another amazing. Okay. And then, um.
- 47:43More recent, I fell into another TikTok host, Hannah Rose.
- 47:47She does sound therapy where sound bowls and all the sound healing.
- 47:52And she was just doing it on TikTok. And I said, wow, you got something too.
- 47:57She's co-hosted a few of our shows, but she does the sound within.
- 48:01And she does her own podcast where she just has her thoughts,
- 48:04her feelings, very soft-spoken, very relaxing.
- 48:07And now she's starting to do her sound bowl. But like full 30 minutes of her
- 48:11just working the sound bowls, which is amazing because I'm still in tune with sound.
- 48:17So those that sound within, Haunted and Waiting, Elaine's Arcane Oracle.
- 48:23Don't forget to check them all out because they're amazing. And Sunset Child's Out There podcast.
- 48:28So the tag team meditation and sound baths. Because currently,
- 48:32before my meditation, they offer a little bit of a journey for closure.
- 48:38And then we do the sound bath. And then I do not play. Not play. Fucking shit.
- 48:44See, we don't filter. I do an audio of another meditation just to wrap up. Right.
- 48:52So I'm like, yeah, maybe sometime we can tag team some of that. I'd love to.
- 48:56I think they're all open to coming on and cross-referencing and cross-podcasts.
- 49:02I think that would be fantastic.
- 49:03I just envisioned, like, a whole, like,
- 49:09everybody in the society coming here for some type of retreat.
- 49:15It's like, I don't know. That would be a workshop.
- 49:19That's a workshop. That would be so cool.
- 49:23Could you imagine how... Anyway, before we wrap up, share our surprise.
- 49:29I got a surprise for everybody.
- 49:31Yeah, exactly. That wasn't a surprise? No. No, that wasn't a surprise.
- 49:35What's your surprise? Well, with all of the learning, that I've been doing.
- 49:40There's a reason, too. I went to University of Sedona, and I'm getting the accreditation.
- 49:46Between Lizzie and I, we've been talking about it. We're sharing ideas.
- 49:50So just what I have now is still basic. And remember, words mean something.
- 49:54Way back in third-eye meditation, third-eye meditation, I had this joke,
- 49:59and that's why it never worked out that I was going to be a church.
- 50:03So because I fiddled around with it, I'm not going to do it.
- 50:07I'm doing it. I am opening a church.
- 50:11And it's going to be a spiritual, no dogmas, non-denominational. Anybody can attend.
- 50:19How it starts, whether we're going to start online and then go for a physical
- 50:22location, yet to be seen.
- 50:25I mean, this is all thoughts. So, again, this is podcast time.
- 50:28My announcement now, I may have already started the church. We don't know.
- 50:33But that's what I'm doing. It's something I've been so passionate about because,
- 50:37again, all this talk about healing people and bringing folk.
- 50:40The only way really to do it is sometimes not everybody's going to hear your show.
- 50:44Not everybody's going to have access to it. But when you have a church and you
- 50:46bring that community together and you can start doing your teachings and I can
- 50:50have different practitioners in there teaching their ways together.
- 50:54I'm ready for it. And that's what we're doing. And of course,
- 50:57you guys can be involved in any way, shape, or form. Yeah.
- 51:01And if you need, I'm sure you've got resources already for like, I'm an accountant.
- 51:06That can kind of help you along with the nonprofit. Build a block.
- 51:11Yeah, the nonprofit 501.
- 51:12Yeah, that's going to be somebody else's thing. That's in place.
- 51:15I'm basically ready to fly out. We love that so much.
- 51:19So 2021, everybody's like, you just need to have a nonprofit.
- 51:24And not having a nonprofit this year has hindered us.
- 51:28There were some opportunities that we could have had if we were a nonprofit.
- 51:33There's some organizations out there that only work with nonprofits.
- 51:39And that's really limited us to what we have access to.
- 51:44Because accessibility is a huge thing with us, right? So when it comes to planning
- 51:49retreats and destinations like that, it doesn't need to cost something.
- 51:56Right. But it's not supposed to be only accessible to the most fortunate.
- 52:03Yeah. Right, exactly. And so that's a passion.
- 52:06And I am so happy that someone else, because that's part of what we share too,
- 52:12is that as a community, we want these things.
- 52:16But we don't always have to be the one to do
- 52:18those things and that's an amazing gift yeah just to
- 52:22know um that's that's one last
- 52:25thing we don't have to do we should be a part of
- 52:27it in the community and it's
- 52:30going to be such a valuable resource for the people all right guys so i guess
- 52:36next time we'll see you we see you all right um and bye y'all yeah right guys
- 52:41so that wraps up another the episode of without a candle with carly and carla
- 52:45we appreciate you and we'll see you next time.