Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 3 March
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- 0:10Speaker 1: It's the Gold Report. Tonight, Treasurer Jim Chalmers gives Ailing
- 0:16Speaker 1: Albanizi the elbow. Let me do the debates, what does
- 0:20Speaker 1: this mean? And the nasty left Former labor Minnsipeter Garrett
- 0:24Speaker 1: tells his fans a dance on the grave of a woman,
- 0:27Speaker 1: Gina her own heart, and Mega Markel uses her daughter
- 0:31Speaker 1: to flock a new lifestyle show also to note a
- 0:34Speaker 1: vicious new video from Donald Trump's national intelligence chief smears
- 0:38Speaker 1: Ukraine's president. I wonder are they after regime change? But
- 0:44Speaker 1: first time for a reality check, After all, this is
- 0:48Speaker 1: theory on the weekend over Donald Trump, that's true, Anthony
- 0:51Speaker 1: Alberanezi said exactly the right thing after the US President
- 0:54Speaker 1: attacked Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelenski. Trump abused him as a
- 0:59Speaker 1: hater in a shouting match on Friday and through him
- 1:01Speaker 1: out of the White House without signing a deal over
- 1:04Speaker 1: Ukraine's minerals that could repay America and save the rest
- 1:07Speaker 1: of Ukraine from being conquered by Russia.
- 1:10Speaker 2: And your people are very brave, but you're either going
- 1:13Speaker 2: to make a deal or we're out. And if we're out,
- 1:16Speaker 2: you'll fight it out. I don't think it's going to
- 1:19Speaker 2: be pretty, but you'll fight it out, but you don't
- 1:22Speaker 2: have the cards. But once we sign that deal, you're
- 1:25Speaker 2: in a much better position. But you're not acting at all.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Thankful, and that's not a nice thing. I'll be honest.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Threatened to Ukraine is ugly. But here's Albanezi saying, Ukraine
- 1:37Speaker 1: can at least rely on us.
- 1:40Speaker 3: We will continue to stand with Ukraine for as long
- 1:44Speaker 3: as it takes, because this is the struggle of a
- 1:48Speaker 3: democratic nation versus an authoritarian regime led by Vladimir Putin
- 1:55Speaker 3: who clearly has imperialistic designs. Not to sign Ukraine but
- 2:00Speaker 3: throughout that region.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Terrific well said, and European leaders, in an emergency meeting
- 2:07Speaker 1: in London on the weekend rushed to hand Zelenski and
- 2:11Speaker 1: promise they'd also step up. They would even pay more
- 2:14Speaker 1: themselves to guarantee Ukraine's security. British Prime Minister Keyastanma talked
- 2:19Speaker 1: very big.
- 2:21Speaker 4: We will go further develop a coalition of the willing
- 2:25Speaker 4: to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace.
- 2:29Speaker 4: The UK has prepared to back this with boots on
- 2:33Speaker 4: the ground and planes in the air, together with others
- 2:37Speaker 4: Europe must do the heavy listing. But to support peace
- 2:42Speaker 4: in our continent and to succeed this effort must have
- 2:47Speaker 4: strong US backing.
- 2:49Speaker 1: It sounds great, and in fact, Europe paying more for
- 2:52Speaker 1: Europe's own defense is exactly what Trapp has wanted all along,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and I guess you'd want us to pay more for ours.
- 3:01Speaker 1: But here is the reality check. If Australia is standing
- 3:05Speaker 1: with Ukraine, when is this government going to stop Australia
- 3:08Speaker 1: sending billions of dollars to help fund Russia's war machine
- 3:14Speaker 1: words are cheap. We are now weak underfunding our military,
- 3:19Speaker 1: gutting our industry, especially with climate change policies. All this
- 3:23Speaker 1: is embarrassingly clear from a new report from Finland Center
- 3:25Speaker 1: of Research on Energy and Clean Air. It says the
- 3:29Speaker 1: European Union is still paying more for Russian oil and
- 3:32Speaker 1: gas than it sends in aid to Ukraine to save
- 3:37Speaker 1: it from Russia. But the shocking kicker for US is
- 3:42Speaker 1: that of all the countries in this report examined, the
- 3:46Speaker 1: country is talking tough on Russia. You know, Europe, America, Japan, Canada, Australia.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Guess which one country buys the most products made from
- 3:56Speaker 1: Russian oil it's US Australia. This reports as Russia is
- 4:03Speaker 1: getting around, the West bands on buying Russian orb by
- 4:07Speaker 1: selling it instead to giant refineries in India and Turkey,
- 4:11Speaker 1: which loved this cheap oil, and they then on sell
- 4:14Speaker 1: the petrol and other other products to the West. And
- 4:17Speaker 1: it says the single biggest buyer was Australia, whose imports
- 4:23Speaker 1: from these refineries total three point three eight billion euros
- 4:26Speaker 1: that's five and a half billion dollars over the past year. Massive.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Now much of this petrol that we've bought is coming
- 4:37Speaker 1: from the world's biggest oil refinery in Jamnagar, northern India,
- 4:41Speaker 1: which now gets a third of its oil from Russia.
- 4:43Speaker 1: That's in the dark Red and their operators just signed
- 4:46Speaker 1: a massive new deal for more supplies from Rosneft, the
- 4:50Speaker 1: Russian state owned oil and giant and that's, of course,
- 4:54Speaker 1: being state owned, a big source of cash floor President
- 4:57Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin's war machine. Now, are we going to stop
- 5:03Speaker 1: paying for this petrol made from Russian oil? Would we
- 5:09Speaker 1: think of paying more for our petrol even more by
- 5:12Speaker 1: getting it somewhere else not quite so cheap as if?
- 5:18Speaker 1: And the fact is we are as dependent as hell.
- 5:22Speaker 1: A quarter of a century ago, we had eight refineries
- 5:25Speaker 1: in Australia turning oil, including our own oil, into petrol.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Now we have just two small and in trouble, and
- 5:32Speaker 1: we don't have enough oil as well at all. Ah
- 5:37Speaker 1: we are sitting ducks. I mean, China could cut our
- 5:40Speaker 1: sea lanes tomorrow, we'd be out of petrol in weeks,
- 5:43Speaker 1: and we don't have a navy strong enough to do
- 5:45Speaker 1: a thing about it. As we saw last week we
- 5:48Speaker 1: had just three Chinese warships circling Australian firing guns. Our
- 5:54Speaker 1: government needed a virgin pilot to warn it about what
- 5:58Speaker 1: was happening. And we're now going to stand with Ukraine.
- 6:03Speaker 1: We can't even stand for ourselves, as obvious they leader
- 6:06Speaker 1: Peter Dutton pointed out today.
- 6:08Speaker 5: Australia is an island nation of twenty seven million people,
- 6:12Speaker 5: effectively in the middle of nowhere, and we need to
- 6:14Speaker 5: make sure that we have strong defenses, and we need
- 6:17Speaker 5: to make sure that we have functioning relationships with allies
- 6:21Speaker 5: like the United States, because nobody can really predict what
- 6:24Speaker 5: will happen, what threats will come our way over the
- 6:26Speaker 5: next century, and that's why we need strong leadership in
- 6:28Speaker 5: this country, and it's why I think people understand that
- 6:31Speaker 5: the Prime Minister is just not up to the job.
- 6:33Speaker 1: As for Europe now talking tough also weak. A new
- 6:37Speaker 1: report from the think tank Brugal says if Trump does
- 6:40Speaker 1: stop defending Ukraine, then Europe, to save Ukraine from a
- 6:44Speaker 1: full out Russian attack will need more extra fighting vehicles
- 6:49Speaker 1: than it has even now, more missiles and the lot.
- 6:52Speaker 1: I mean, Europe has been weak and lazy, leaving its
- 6:56Speaker 1: defense to America, which is what Trump has been furious
- 6:59Speaker 1: about for years. And now Britain and France say they'll
- 7:03Speaker 1: defend Ukraine with what without America. I mean, It's true
- 7:09Speaker 1: that Russia in this war has been bleeding men. Its
- 7:14Speaker 1: economy is in big trouble. Inflation is nine point five percent,
- 7:18Speaker 1: supplies are running short, the economy really well. People will
- 7:21Speaker 1: say this could be the last year when Putin can
- 7:25Speaker 1: hold it together. But Putin, with our oil money as well,
- 7:29Speaker 1: with our oil money as well, has nevertheless created a
- 7:32Speaker 1: war industry that the Brugal report said made two hundred
- 7:36Speaker 1: and twenty six two hundred and twenty percent more tanks
- 7:41Speaker 1: in the past year, one hundred and fifty percent more
- 7:44Speaker 1: armored vehicles and artillery and more than four hundred percent
- 7:48Speaker 1: more long range loitering munitions, drones and things like that,
- 7:52Speaker 1: so that NATO, Germany, Poland, Denmark and the Baltic States
- 7:55Speaker 1: all think Russia will be re armed and ready to
- 7:59Speaker 1: attack again, maybe some other country next time, within three
- 8:04Speaker 1: to ten years, maybe even sooner. And it has formed
- 8:08Speaker 1: under Putin. Russia has attacked Chechia, Georgia, Ukraine first in
- 8:13Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, again three years ago. It's also propped up
- 8:17Speaker 1: the Syrian dictatorship until just this year, has sent to
- 8:20Speaker 1: troops to back dictatorships in Africa. Vladimir Putin's even poisoned
- 8:25Speaker 1: opponents in Britain and threat in nuclear war. That's how
- 8:28Speaker 1: little he cares about the European threat. Europe is not
- 8:32Speaker 1: going to be able to fight him alone, not when
- 8:34Speaker 1: it's got to fund these gigantic welfare states it's developed,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and when global warming schemes are killing its industry like
- 8:42Speaker 1: our schemes are killing ours. And with China backing Russia
- 8:46Speaker 1: and preparing for its own war over Taiwan, they'll be
- 8:50Speaker 1: bigger than Ukraine. Believe me, well, that's too big a
- 8:53Speaker 1: job even for the United States. In the end, the
- 8:57Speaker 1: US needs us too, It needs all of us to
- 9:01Speaker 1: really step up, not just with social media posts. I
- 9:05Speaker 1: stand with you. So I think Trump is going to
- 9:09Speaker 1: eventually sign this deal with Ukraine for a share in
- 9:11Speaker 1: its minerals in exchange for guaranteeing Ukraine's security and any
- 9:14Speaker 1: peace deal with Russia. So sure, stand with Ukraine, I do,
- 9:21Speaker 1: But with what? And can we even stand for ourselves?
- 9:25Speaker 1: Waving goodbye to one industry after another. It's time we
- 9:29Speaker 1: got serious, deadly serious, back home trity. Jim Chalmers yesterday
- 9:40Speaker 1: make clear he is the man to win this election
- 9:43Speaker 1: for Labor and his boss Anthony Albanezi. The implication is
- 9:48Speaker 1: is not. Albanez is probably a week away from calling
- 9:51Speaker 1: the election and is in big trouble. I mean a
- 9:54Speaker 1: new Redbridge poll shows he could lose up to eight
- 9:56Speaker 1: seats in Victoria alone. Tory has become a basket case.
- 10:02Speaker 1: I've oversedeen right over Albany's who seems to have all
- 10:05Speaker 1: the stuffing and any vision knocked out of him since
- 10:08Speaker 1: you lost the referendum for the voice, enter Jim Chalmers. Now,
- 10:13Speaker 1: there were real reports last week that nervous Labor MPs
- 10:16Speaker 1: were desperate for this ambitious treasurer to come help save
- 10:20Speaker 1: their seats. And yesterday Charmers said the election will be
- 10:23Speaker 1: fought on economics his strength and he wanted four debates,
- 10:28Speaker 1: it seemed during the election to win it for Labor.
- 10:32Speaker 6: I challenge the shadow Treasurer to a series of debates
- 10:37Speaker 6: about the economy. Now he has had almost three years
- 10:40Speaker 6: now and he still has no costed, coherent or credible
- 10:44Speaker 6: economic policies, and so I'd be happy to debate Angus
- 10:48Speaker 6: Taylor every week of the campaign frankly, So if Angus
- 10:51Speaker 6: Taylor wants people to take him seriously on the economy,
- 10:54Speaker 6: he will accept my challenge.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Today Jeremy's the panel Michael Kroger from the Victorian Liberal
- 10:59Speaker 1: Press and Steve Conroy form a Labor Senator and Cabinet Minister.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Michael for debates Anthony Albanezi. I think we'll be scared
- 11:06Speaker 1: to agree to you even two or three. Isn't this
- 11:09Speaker 1: charm saying that he can do what Albanezi cannot and
- 11:11Speaker 1: win this main argument of the election.
- 11:16Speaker 7: Well, he's trying to do that, but that ain't going
- 11:19Speaker 7: to happen. And the reason it's not going to happen
- 11:20Speaker 7: is Labor headquarters are going to say, listen, Jim, you
- 11:23Speaker 7: can't do four debates if the PM does one or
- 11:25Speaker 7: two because it looks as if we're trying to hide
- 11:28Speaker 7: Alban Easy. And the last thing you can do is
- 11:31Speaker 7: go into election with it looking as if you're trying
- 11:34Speaker 7: to hide your prime minister.
- 11:35Speaker 8: So that's not going to happen.
- 11:37Speaker 7: And Chalmers is obviously pitching for the leadership after the election,
- 11:41Speaker 7: so it's pretty clear why he's out in front. He's
- 11:45Speaker 7: going to try and get the leadership over Burke and
- 11:46Speaker 7: Plebasic and whoever else. So that's why he's thrusting himself forward.
- 11:50Speaker 7: But there's not going to be four debates because it
- 11:52Speaker 7: makes Alban Easy look terrible.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Andrew Steve Conroy Charmers seems to be a man who
- 12:00Speaker 1: thinks he can win the election, and Laboring Peace are
- 12:03Speaker 1: looking to him. What's stopping him from taking over completely
- 12:07Speaker 1: when the going is good.
- 12:11Speaker 9: Look, it's great that despite Michael saying that Jim Charles
- 12:16Speaker 9: was treasurer that we've ever seen training Wheels no idea
- 12:21Speaker 9: commentator for three years, he's one of the dominant figures
- 12:25Speaker 9: coming into this election. He is absolutely the Peter Costello
- 12:30Speaker 9: support and very strong debate, and Angus Taylor will run
- 12:38Speaker 9: a million miles from four debates because there is no
- 12:41Speaker 9: policy agenda on the table that Angus Taylor has put
- 12:45Speaker 9: forward at this stage. And we are maybe five weeks
- 12:49Speaker 9: from election day, five and a half weeks, so Angus
- 12:53Speaker 9: Taylor is not going to agree to four. Although I'm
- 12:55Speaker 9: sure we'll do the two usual ones, maybe an ABC
- 13:00Speaker 9: National Press Club debate and he'll do I'm sure he'll
- 13:02Speaker 9: do a Sky debate as usual. So Albo will do
- 13:06Speaker 9: the absolute usual amount. It's Angus Taylor that doesn't want
- 13:10Speaker 9: to front up for that amount of debates with Jim
- 13:12Speaker 9: Chalmers because the economic sorry for labor continues to be strong.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Surpluses the two things that the first time in years
- 13:25Speaker 1: you've really seen it. Albert's will agree that's the normal case.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Charmers saying we'll agree to four. So already we see,
- 13:31Speaker 1: already we see one goes challenge of it is not
- 13:34Speaker 1: and if it's such a great treacher, I have to say,
- 13:37Speaker 1: way of living standards gone back four quarter seven quarters
- 13:40Speaker 1: in a row. So I agree, it's amazing he's got
- 13:43Speaker 1: this great era of capability. But you look at the
- 13:46Speaker 1: economy and think, what have you done? Jim? Anyway? Look
- 13:51Speaker 1: for me though, back in Black Michael Anthony, what is
- 13:53Speaker 1: he's saying he now stands with Ukraine exposes how weak
- 13:58Speaker 1: we really are when last week the government couldn't even
- 14:01Speaker 1: handle three Chinese ships circling our coast firing their guns.
- 14:05Speaker 1: What is standing with Ukraine look like? What should it
- 14:08Speaker 1: look like?
- 14:11Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, he's saying what he should say, which is
- 14:16Speaker 7: that we're standing in support of another democracy, but doesn't
- 14:21Speaker 7: mean much. It means, you know, a billion dollars worth
- 14:23Speaker 7: of support that the Albanese has government's given to the Ukraine,
- 14:27Speaker 7: which is very welcome and we've agreed with and that
- 14:30Speaker 7: support should continue. The big problem with all of this
- 14:33Speaker 7: is that the Europeans have had no hope of reaching
- 14:38Speaker 7: any kind of resolution on this war with the Russians.
- 14:41Speaker 7: It's gone on for three years, which is why Trump's
- 14:43Speaker 7: now coming and said, well, first of all, you people
- 14:46Speaker 7: should fund your own defense fair enough. And secondly, you
- 14:49Speaker 7: people have had no serious discussions with the Russians about
- 14:53Speaker 7: resolving this dispute, so I'm going to come in and
- 14:55Speaker 7: try and resolve it. So you can understand why Trump
- 14:58Speaker 7: is doing what he's doing, even though we quite rightly
- 15:00Speaker 7: stand with the Ukraine and other democracies. I think this
- 15:03Speaker 7: guy Volensky, by the way, is an international hero. I mean,
- 15:07Speaker 7: I think he's been utterly magnificent during this crisis, so,
- 15:11Speaker 7: you know, all strength of his arm and let's hope
- 15:13Speaker 7: the Ukraine succeeds.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Stephen, What do you think Donald Trump is up to?
- 15:19Speaker 1: I'm going to play later in this show an absolutely
- 15:21Speaker 1: disgusting video from his top national intelligence advisor. I've played
- 15:26Speaker 1: it after the break, but really closing up to Putin,
- 15:30Speaker 1: like his critics say, closing up to a Russian war criminal?
- 15:34Speaker 1: Or is he just trying to get Europe to pay
- 15:36Speaker 1: more for its own defense.
- 15:40Speaker 9: Look, there are ways to try and get Europe to
- 15:43Speaker 9: pay more for Insta fans, but making Ukraine the price
- 15:47Speaker 9: is not an acceptable position.
- 15:50Speaker 1: I agree with you.
- 15:50Speaker 9: Some of his appointments are disturbingly pro Russian, as well
- 15:54Speaker 9: as his own pre elections and his own sycophancy towards Putin,
- 16:00Speaker 9: which has been on display. I mean just reading out
- 16:02Speaker 9: Russian talking points. You know, Putin's a dictator. You don't
- 16:08Speaker 9: get to sort of go oh, I didn't mean.
- 16:10Speaker 1: No dictator say that, so the dictator.
- 16:14Speaker 9: Sorry, that's what when he said, Zelenski is a dictator. Okay,
- 16:17Speaker 9: you don't get to say that. And it's a bloke
- 16:20Speaker 9: that refused. Was offered we can fly you out, you
- 16:23Speaker 9: can run the opposition from outside the country. He turned
- 16:26Speaker 9: it down, said, I'm staying and fighting with my people.
- 16:29Speaker 9: Being lectured by a draft dodger in Donald Trump is
- 16:33Speaker 9: really hard to stomach. So seriously, yes, Europeans, and they're
- 16:40Speaker 9: being forced to the table to put more money on
- 16:43Speaker 9: the table. But the key premise for successful peace is
- 16:49Speaker 9: that Ukraine have to have security guarantees, whether it's formally
- 16:52Speaker 9: inside NATO, whether it's with a NATO peacekeeping force with
- 16:56Speaker 9: American backing. That has to be a precondition has to
- 17:00Speaker 9: be made to understand by Trump that you get to
- 17:04Speaker 9: keep this area. People are going to be unhappy, but
- 17:07Speaker 9: that's where the line is now, and I'm personally dictating
- 17:10Speaker 9: the line, but there's a line both sides. It'll be policed,
- 17:13Speaker 9: it'll be looked after, but there has to be security guarantees.
- 17:17Speaker 9: That is the actual at the end, after all huffing
- 17:20Speaker 9: and puffing the theater that will take place. That has
- 17:23Speaker 9: to be a precondition for a successful peace going forward.
- 17:29Speaker 1: I think so too, But you know, Trump is making
- 17:33Speaker 1: all the signs that he might not even want to
- 17:36Speaker 1: do that, but I hope that it's just blustering negotiating tactic. Michael,
- 17:43Speaker 1: let me just switch back here because there's something disgusting.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I'll do more on Ukraine after the break, a really
- 17:49Speaker 1: important fact check and that video talked about, But back
- 17:52Speaker 1: here something really appalled me. You've got Peter Garrett, former
- 17:57Speaker 1: Labor Environments Midnight or Rocker, giving a in Perth on Friday,
- 18:02Speaker 1: tells the audience to pretend they're dancing on the grave
- 18:06Speaker 1: of a woman moaning billionaire Gina Reinhardt. Pretend you're dancing
- 18:10Speaker 1: on her grave. The West Australian Labor premier accused Garrett
- 18:12Speaker 1: is something the seeds of hate. Shouldn't he apologize for
- 18:15Speaker 1: this absolute barbarity? Well he should. I mean that guy.
- 18:21Speaker 7: Marty Sheergell, the Triple M host Tom Elliott on three
- 18:26Speaker 7: at W mentioned this this morning on Melbourne Radio. He
- 18:29Speaker 7: got sacked for criticizing the Matildas by saying, you know
- 18:34Speaker 7: they weren't he good blah blah blah, reminded him of
- 18:36Speaker 7: school children. Now he got sacked. There was a massive
- 18:38Speaker 7: pilon against him by everybody. Where's the pilon against against
- 18:43Speaker 7: Garrett for these disgusting comments about Gena Reinhardt. I mean,
- 18:47Speaker 7: Gena Hinhart's done more for this country, Peter Garrett, than
- 18:50Speaker 7: you've ever done, my friend, ever done. And she's employed
- 18:54Speaker 7: thousands of people, contributed massively to the national wealth of
- 18:57Speaker 7: this country, taking massive risks as her father did generations ago,
- 19:02Speaker 7: a generation before her. You know, the Hancock family have
- 19:06Speaker 7: made an enormous contribution to this to this country. And
- 19:10Speaker 7: for this grub Garrett to say this about her, well,
- 19:14Speaker 7: shame on him and well under the western Stonian premier
- 19:16Speaker 7: for and opposition leader for criticizing Garrett. What a disgrace.
- 19:20Speaker 7: Peter Garrett, you should you should apologize. You're a former
- 19:23Speaker 7: federal cabinet minister. You should apologize, my friend because you
- 19:28Speaker 7: you had, you put in a shock of my friend.
- 19:30Speaker 7: You put in a shaka and you're in disgrace. And
- 19:33Speaker 7: the quicker you apologize, the better for you and your
- 19:35Speaker 7: rock bands.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Well, I think Garrett's bed is burning here. Stephen, you
- 19:41Speaker 1: serve with this guy as a Christian is supposed to
- 19:43Speaker 1: be for the cuddly, you know, social welfare, you know,
- 19:48Speaker 1: hag a hoody kind of generation. What does it say
- 19:53Speaker 1: about where does this come from? Do you know this
- 19:55Speaker 1: kind of Peter Garrett that says this kind of thing?
- 20:00Speaker 1: Look to be honest.
- 20:01Speaker 9: I mean I served in cabinet with him for six years,
- 20:03Speaker 9: in Parliament with him for probably ten, and I hadn't
- 20:07Speaker 9: seen in temperate remarks like that from Peter. I think
- 20:12Speaker 9: it is deeply unhelpful to the West Australian election. West
- 20:15Speaker 9: Australian is a minimal resources state. They're a valuable part
- 20:17Speaker 9: of our national economy. Gena Wrighthart's played a role. You
- 20:22Speaker 9: don't have to like her where you don't have to
- 20:25Speaker 9: respect her. But I would think if I was Roger Cork,
- 20:28Speaker 9: I'd be beside myself, you know, a week out from
- 20:30Speaker 9: election someone from the East coming in and trying to
- 20:33Speaker 9: give a lecture and use that sort of intemperate language
- 20:38Speaker 9: would have been unhelpful to the West Astralian Labour's chances.
- 20:41Speaker 1: I think Peter, I've invested in many years. We reassure you, Steven.
- 20:48Speaker 1: I hate to see you in discomfort here. I think
- 20:51Speaker 1: Labour's going to win. Will Mark cost them a couple
- 20:54Speaker 1: of seas. Michael Kroeger, Stephen Conroy, thank you very much
- 20:58Speaker 1: to you both. After the break, Trump's top intelligence advisor,
- 21:05Speaker 1: she releases a video spearing Ukraine's president with Russian lies.
- 21:09Speaker 1: It's just extraordinary and it makes me wonder our Trump
- 21:14Speaker 1: officials now trying to topple Zelenski to a very disturbing
- 21:23Speaker 1: video put out by Donald Trump's Director of National Intelligence
- 21:26Speaker 1: Tulsey Gabbard and promoted by Elon Musk. And this is frightening.
- 21:30Speaker 1: It's the US. Makes you wonder if the US is
- 21:33Speaker 1: trying to topple a foreign leader, Ukraine's elected president. I
- 21:39Speaker 1: think good people can disagree about what a piece steal
- 21:42Speaker 1: between Ukraine and Russia wood or should look like, and
- 21:45Speaker 1: even disagree about who started that terrible shouting match last
- 21:48Speaker 1: Friday between Donald Trump and Ukrainian President VOLTIMD Zelensky. To me,
- 21:52Speaker 1: there was fault on both sides. But now we're also
- 21:55Speaker 1: seeing filthy attacks on Zelenski personally Russian propaganda and to
- 22:00Speaker 1: repeat it, you know, Zelensky's a dictator, Zelensky's a crook.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Even Zelensky is Jewish and is banning churches in look
- 22:08Speaker 1: candas owns for that of Tucker Carlson. But to hear
- 22:11Speaker 1: some of these attacks repeated now by Tulsey Gabbard, a
- 22:14Speaker 1: top Trump security official who was already accused of being
- 22:18Speaker 1: too much of a fan of letting me putin, is shocking.
- 22:22Speaker 1: This TikTok video by Gabbard is clearly meant to destroy
- 22:26Speaker 1: Zelensky's credibility, even to get rid of him.
- 22:29Speaker 10: Ukraine's President Zelensky has just banned yet another political opposition party,
- 22:33Speaker 10: one that questioned his legitimacy as president. He began banning
- 22:38Speaker 10: major political opposition parties in twenty twenty two, when he
- 22:42Speaker 10: also started banning TV channels that were associated with his
- 22:46Speaker 10: political opponents. He counseled elections in the name of martial law,
- 22:50Speaker 10: suspending Ukraine's constitution so that he could stay in power.
- 22:55Speaker 1: And then that was followed up by Trump's national security
- 23:00Speaker 1: advisor with a hint that Zelenski should go.
- 23:04Speaker 10: Are you suggesting that President Trump wants Zelensky to resign?
- 23:09Speaker 11: We need a leader that can deal with us, eventually
- 23:14Speaker 11: deal with the Russians and end this war. Uh And
- 23:18Speaker 11: if it becomes apparent the President Zelenski's either personal motivations
- 23:23Speaker 11: or political motivations are divergent from ending the fighting in
- 23:26Speaker 11: his country, then I think we have a real issue
- 23:30Speaker 11: on our hand.
- 23:32Speaker 1: Joining from Ukraine to put the facts. Is Ilia Uponomarenko,
- 23:35Speaker 1: a brilliant journaist I have followed on social media, an
- 23:38Speaker 1: analyst with a Kiev independent, brilliant publication, an author of
- 23:42Speaker 1: I will show you how it was the story of
- 23:45Speaker 1: wartime Kiev. Ilia Ponomarenko, thank you so much for your time.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Donald Trump himself has called your president the dictator, although
- 23:54Speaker 1: it did seem last week that he was backing down
- 23:57Speaker 1: here he is.
- 23:57Speaker 8: Then, what is the thing that Lensky is Did I
- 24:05Speaker 8: say that?
- 24:06Speaker 12: I can't believe I said that?
- 24:08Speaker 1: Next version, can you tell me is your president a dictator?
- 24:15Speaker 8: Well?
- 24:16Speaker 13: President Znansky could be accused of a lot of things,
- 24:19Speaker 13: especially when it comes to his domestic policies, because we
- 24:22Speaker 13: live with him in this country and we have somewhat
- 24:26Speaker 13: less idealized view of him because of a lot of
- 24:29Speaker 13: his decisions, chaotic decision making, the way he positions himself
- 24:36Speaker 13: among institutions. But of course that's fiercely a galaxy away
- 24:42Speaker 13: from being a dictator in this country, and for good reason,
- 24:45Speaker 13: because Ukraine is a kind of country where it's extremely
- 24:48Speaker 13: hard to be a dictator and to grow up the
- 24:51Speaker 13: dictatorial power, because Ukraine is the kind of country who
- 24:54Speaker 13: had two revolutions, major revolutions within ten years against the tictorial.
- 25:02Speaker 8: Tendencies in those times, and Ukraine has.
- 25:07Speaker 13: Peers and extremely brutal political life, and in general, Ukraine
- 25:12Speaker 13: is a country that has a very strong culture of
- 25:18Speaker 13: being oppositional to any kind of authority.
- 25:20Speaker 8: That's that is there. We extremely antagonistic.
- 25:25Speaker 13: Average Ukrainian is extremely antagonistic and extremely critical towards whoever.
- 25:30Speaker 8: Is in charge.
- 25:31Speaker 13: So even if Dnansky wanted to impose some sort of
- 25:36Speaker 13: dictatorial power, there were a lot of people who tried
- 25:39Speaker 13: to do this and ended up being disposed and flee
- 25:42Speaker 13: into Russia. So the answer is, of course know, and
- 25:46Speaker 13: of course we must understand that with this back and
- 25:50Speaker 13: forth on whether he is dictator or not, with many
- 25:53Speaker 13: other things, but with the elections, it's not really about
- 25:57Speaker 13: Zansky being a dictator. It's about Ukraine, and it's about
- 26:03Speaker 13: finding finding an excuse to usk him and remove him
- 26:06Speaker 13: from this equation of trying to make a great surrender.
- 26:10Speaker 13: It's about him and Ukraine, not about whether his dictator
- 26:14Speaker 13: or not.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I noticed that the Ukrainian partner are the unanimously, at
- 26:19Speaker 1: least the politicians who were there. I think it was
- 26:21Speaker 1: about a week or two ago to confirm that Vladimir,
- 26:26Speaker 1: that Voladimira Zelensky was acting lawfully under the constitution. But
- 26:31Speaker 1: why did Ukraine cancel elections? Tell us that.
- 26:36Speaker 13: They didn't cancel elections, and you know what Deparliament did
- 26:39Speaker 13: in terms of your confirming the legistency of his actions.
- 26:44Speaker 13: It was more and more of a public move for
- 26:47Speaker 13: you know, people outside Ukraine to see that, you know,
- 26:49Speaker 13: Zelensky is acting lawfully in a in full of callings
- 26:53Speaker 13: with constitution, with the law, because in what the Ukraine,
- 26:59Speaker 13: it's a non issue that Ukraine simply cannot have elections
- 27:02Speaker 13: during wartime. And we're not even talking about the constitution
- 27:06Speaker 13: because constitution and the specific legislation on elections, they have
- 27:11Speaker 13: the direct ban on presidential and parliamentary elections during wartime.
- 27:15Speaker 8: So Derensky didn't cancel them.
- 27:17Speaker 13: The actual situation is that as presidents during wartime acts
- 27:24Speaker 13: as long as we as we dropped the martial law
- 27:29Speaker 13: and hold another elections and elect another president. So he
- 27:33Speaker 13: didn't cancel it because we can't have them during wartime.
- 27:37Speaker 13: But just putting legal things aside, there's a consensus with
- 27:43Speaker 13: the Ukraine that you know, with millions of people brought,
- 27:46Speaker 13: up to ten millions brought to the refugees, with over
- 27:49Speaker 13: a million people in the military, with twenty percent of
- 27:53Speaker 13: the country occupied on the Russian occupation, but the active hostilities,
- 27:58Speaker 13: brutal or hostilities and will missile to acted happening daily
- 28:02Speaker 13: on the daily basis. It's going to be a very unrepresentative.
- 28:07Speaker 13: It's going to be a very competitive elections. And I
- 28:16Speaker 13: can tell you that, uh, we have the consensus within
- 28:19Speaker 13: the society from the reaction of Zensky's opposition and I'm
- 28:24Speaker 13: believe me when I tell you Zanski's opposition is feerce.
- 28:27Speaker 13: You know, public figures like former President Petro Parashenka, if
- 28:31Speaker 13: they had a chance, if they knew, if from their
- 28:35Speaker 13: own polls and posters, that there is a public demand
- 28:39Speaker 13: for you know, voting Lansky out, they will simply go
- 28:43Speaker 13: high hell of high water to run another elections because
- 28:47Speaker 13: you know, the position is brutal. You can have got
- 28:50Speaker 13: a brutal political life. So by the time knowing that now.
- 28:58Speaker 1: When when you say this, right, all the critics trying
- 29:02Speaker 1: to make this out like there's a coup and all
- 29:04Speaker 1: that going on, Why aren't they look at Vladimir Putin.
- 29:07Speaker 1: He actually murders his opponents, even opponents in Britain he murders,
- 29:12Speaker 1: and in Russian jails he murders. If you're worried about
- 29:17Speaker 1: lack of democracy, look at Russia. But then this was
- 29:19Speaker 1: this really cheap shot attack of President Zelenski's clothes on
- 29:23Speaker 1: Friday by a fire right journalist relatively close to Donald Trump,
- 29:27Speaker 1: repeating something that's infuriated the conspiracy right for years that
- 29:31Speaker 1: Zelenski dresses like a man. This country really is at war.
- 29:35Speaker 1: I have a look at this, do you ever, why don't.
- 29:38Speaker 8: You wear a suit?
- 29:40Speaker 1: Why don't you wear a suit?
- 29:41Speaker 13: You're the highest level in this country's office and you
- 29:44Speaker 13: refuse to wear a suit.
- 29:45Speaker 1: I just want to see if you do own a suit.
- 29:48Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, problem.
- 29:50Speaker 7: A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting
- 29:52Speaker 7: the dangy in his office.
- 29:54Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I find this a taxo hypocritical from Trump fans to
- 29:58Speaker 1: say absolutely nothing when trumpel Elo mass the boss of it,
- 30:02Speaker 1: turns up in the White House in even sloppier clothes
- 30:05Speaker 1: with his Fidgiti sun wiping his nose on the president's desk,
- 30:09Speaker 1: holds the media spotlight with the president just sitting there.
- 30:13Speaker 1: Tell us about your president's refusal to wear a suit?
- 30:16Speaker 1: What's that about?
- 30:19Speaker 8: What I told it on social media?
- 30:20Speaker 13: Trying to explain this is that you know there in
- 30:23Speaker 13: the tactical sema military outfits is a very important part
- 30:28Speaker 13: of Ukrainian life right now amid war. We have a
- 30:31Speaker 13: very developed culture of you know, military critiques, semi military
- 30:35Speaker 13: tactical gear, things like that. It's it's about the military,
- 30:39Speaker 13: it's about the people who are at some extent a
- 30:45Speaker 13: tributal to war and you know Ukrainian national defense, such
- 30:49Speaker 13: as journalists, such as volunteers. So it's a very important
- 30:53Speaker 13: aspect of life amid war in Ukraine. There's entire culture,
- 30:58Speaker 13: a domain of culture in this and it's also a message.
- 31:02Speaker 13: You may not be a soldier, but at the same
- 31:03Speaker 13: time you know you are working for this country, you
- 31:06Speaker 13: are adjacent to hostilities.
- 31:08Speaker 8: You work as a journalists for instance, and this is
- 31:11Speaker 8: the message.
- 31:12Speaker 13: I may not be a soldier, but I support my
- 31:14Speaker 13: country's defense and I contribute to my part into this,
- 31:18Speaker 13: so Zenansky actually represents this spirit and this nature, and
- 31:23Speaker 13: it's to me it's very important that he does not
- 31:25Speaker 13: wear like camouflage, fatigues like a soldier or military uniform
- 31:28Speaker 13: because frankly, he's not a soldier. He presents the country
- 31:32Speaker 13: at war, but he's not a soldier, and he treats
- 31:35Speaker 13: the fighting soldiers with respect. So this is the message.
- 31:39Speaker 13: It's the message, and it's just a reflection of the
- 31:42Speaker 13: country that Zenski represents. And frankly, speaking of this suit issue,
- 31:49Speaker 13: it's it's not really about suits, it's about much more
- 31:52Speaker 13: fundamental things. It was this confrontation over petty things like
- 31:57Speaker 13: suits and this disregard. It simply simply a clash between
- 32:02Speaker 13: two worlds in the new situation.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Yeah, well look, Eliah, what I think is going on, Well,
- 32:09Speaker 1: like I said before, the conspiracy cooks there hate and
- 32:14Speaker 1: Putin hates Pete Vladimir of Vladimir is Zelenski turning up,
- 32:20Speaker 1: reminding people that this country is in partial occupation and
- 32:23Speaker 1: farding for its survival. They don't like that, reminder that
- 32:26Speaker 1: this is series, it's not a game. Ilia Panamarenko, you
- 32:30Speaker 1: did a brilliant post on this. I recommend people go
- 32:32Speaker 1: to your account on x and read it for themselves
- 32:35Speaker 1: and follow your journalism. Thank you so much, indeed, and
- 32:38Speaker 1: good luck with your book. Are you so many people
- 32:42Speaker 1: who really should know better joining some of these attacks
- 32:45Speaker 1: on Zelenski? I get it. You know, there's a huge
- 32:49Speaker 1: audience for it. On x ex owner Elon Musk is
- 32:52Speaker 1: repeating some of it. They retweeted from him. Well, that
- 32:54Speaker 1: could make you a star. So they're playing to this crowd.
- 32:57Speaker 1: But this is not a joke. This is not someone's
- 33:00Speaker 1: ratings battle.
- 33:02Speaker 2: This is going to have been a great television I
- 33:04Speaker 2: will say that.
- 33:07Speaker 1: No, this is really about people in Ukraine fighting for
- 33:10Speaker 1: their freedom. This is about stopping the Russia China alliance
- 33:14Speaker 1: from starting yet another war, and a bigger one this time,
- 33:17Speaker 1: say Taiwan. So while I thought the Ukrainian president should
- 33:21Speaker 1: have acted more gratefulness meeting with Trump that went so
- 33:23Speaker 1: hire And while you heard Elia Panamarenko just say there
- 33:27Speaker 1: are decisions Zelenski has made that are wrong whatever, who
- 33:32Speaker 1: knows mistakes get made? I feel very much his frustration
- 33:36Speaker 1: afterwards when he was explaining what went wrong in that
- 33:39Speaker 1: White House meeting.
- 33:41Speaker 15: Well, they for example, said that Ukraine is almost destroyed,
- 33:47Speaker 15: that our soldiers run away, that they are not heroes,
- 33:52Speaker 15: that Ukraine lost million of civilians, that his president is dictator.
- 33:58Speaker 15: You know what is the reaction. It's not funny, you know,
- 34:02Speaker 15: or fairy tale. This is real live.
- 34:05Speaker 1: I think the people who are joining this baiting and
- 34:08Speaker 1: mocking of Zelenski, they are signing with thugs and bullies,
- 34:12Speaker 1: and only because they seen these thugs and bullies seem
- 34:15Speaker 1: to be strong and winning, winning, winning. This is what
- 34:18Speaker 1: coward's do, Pandera's lickspittles for dictators. Freedom should have better
- 34:24Speaker 1: friends and on sky I hope it does. After the break,
- 34:31Speaker 1: talking about smearing, how about spearing Australia. The Human Rights
- 34:34Speaker 1: Commission and Anthony Albnezi both caught out. We have institutions,
- 34:43Speaker 1: many of them taxpayer funded, who seem desperate to teach
- 34:46Speaker 1: as strands. This is a terrible country, so racist. Take
- 34:52Speaker 1: our Human Rights Commission. It's now upset that Australia's school
- 34:55Speaker 1: celebrate something these days called Harmony Day. It says that
- 34:59Speaker 1: name actually hides to suppose long standing systemic racial discrimination
- 35:03Speaker 1: many people have faced in Australia, and it wants the
- 35:05Speaker 1: name changed back to the International day for the elimination
- 35:09Speaker 1: of racial discrimination. Now, this Human Rights Commission should be
- 35:14Speaker 1: defunded for causing harm to the nation, for always assuming
- 35:17Speaker 1: the worst of us. Take the latest example a case
- 35:22Speaker 1: going through the courts right now. Two and a half
- 35:25Speaker 1: years ago, an Aboriginal fifteen year old Cassius Turvy, an
- 35:29Speaker 1: apparently kind and bright boy, was killed in what a
- 35:32Speaker 1: prosecutor has now told the trial was a vengeful act
- 35:35Speaker 1: of vigilante violence after Carver's damage, apparently by others. Now
- 35:40Speaker 1: the time, though, the Human Rights Commission jumped on this
- 35:43Speaker 1: strategy is somehow race based, saying the violence that has
- 35:46Speaker 1: killed Cassius Turvy is structural and the solution is indigenous
- 35:51Speaker 1: self determination. And it blamed colonization and history of discriminatory
- 35:57Speaker 1: laws and policies which it said were fundamental in justice
- 36:00Speaker 1: that echo through the lives of First Nations people's and
- 36:03Speaker 1: all Australians are They similarly weighed in activist groups, churches,
- 36:10Speaker 1: the Prime Minister all blaming racist Australia.
- 36:13Speaker 3: This attack that clearly is racially motivated, just breaks your heart.
- 36:20Speaker 8: We've seen what it's been like to be a blackfellow.
- 36:23Speaker 12: We will be seeing.
- 36:23Speaker 16: People turning out and record numbers across Australia because we
- 36:30Speaker 16: want an end to violence, We want an end to
- 36:34Speaker 16: the alleged racism that allegedly murdered Cassius and we need
- 36:41Speaker 16: allies to stand up.
- 36:43Speaker 1: And indeed more than forty rallies were held around Australia,
- 36:47Speaker 1: often by socialist groups attacking our racism. One was even
- 36:51Speaker 1: held in Los Angeles. Now, I make no comment on
- 36:54Speaker 1: guilt or innocence or even motive in this case, and
- 36:56Speaker 1: talking about people leaping to the worst conclusions about their
- 37:01Speaker 1: own country before a word of evidence was heard, and
- 37:05Speaker 1: I'm talking about the court has now actually been told
- 37:07Speaker 1: so far. The prosecutor said, in fact, there was not
- 37:10Speaker 1: a shred of evidence that the alleged murder was racially motivated.
- 37:15Speaker 1: One of the defense barrises agreed, saying anyone who said
- 37:18Speaker 1: racism was behind this was misinformed, ill advised and misguarded.
- 37:23Speaker 1: So any apology from all those people who exploited this
- 37:27Speaker 1: tragedy to scream racist joinings the panel. This story of
- 37:31Speaker 1: the late debate here on Sky Weekdays at ten pm
- 37:34Speaker 1: and Stephen Trevura, an author and senior lecture and history
- 37:37Speaker 1: at Campion College. As Stephen again I don't want any
- 37:41Speaker 1: of us to comment at all about this case. But
- 37:44Speaker 1: here is the Human Rights Council, which gets thirty million
- 37:47Speaker 1: dollars a year from taxpayers, now saying don't call it
- 37:51Speaker 1: Harmony Day because kids will think we're not that racist.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Why do we fund this.
- 37:57Speaker 17: It should be absolutely defunded. And as you say, it
- 37:59Speaker 17: is actually a harmful organization for Australia because it teaches
- 38:03Speaker 17: children to hate this country. But it also teaches children
- 38:08Speaker 17: to hate one another, because when you teach children that
- 38:11Speaker 17: Australia is racist against them, that teaches them that their
- 38:15Speaker 17: fellow Australians are actually their enemies. So it's actually sowing
- 38:18Speaker 17: the seeds of division. We actually know statistically and via
- 38:22Speaker 17: studies done by the Washington Post and the World Population Review,
- 38:26Speaker 17: that Australia is actually one of the least racist countries
- 38:29Speaker 17: in the world. The most racist countries are countries like India, Lebanon, Egypt.
- 38:35Speaker 17: Many countries in Asia, Africa, the Middle East are much
- 38:39Speaker 17: more racist than Australia. In fact, immigrants who come to
- 38:42Speaker 17: Australia are far more likely to be coming from a
- 38:45Speaker 17: much more racist country than any racism in Australia. They'll
- 38:49Speaker 17: experience and the Human Rights Commission is absolutely trashing this country,
- 38:54Speaker 17: and it is simply teaching people to hate this country
- 38:58Speaker 17: and really just sort of creating more work for itself
- 39:02Speaker 17: because they're never going to say Australia is fine, and
- 39:05Speaker 17: say Australia it's fine, that's exactly right.
- 39:08Speaker 1: They're out of a job. They're out of a job,
- 39:10Speaker 1: exactly This is what do you make of this? I mean,
- 39:12Speaker 1: shouldn't be funding this crowd, of.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Course, not.
- 39:15Speaker 18: What they're trying to do here Andrew is enforced. They're
- 39:19Speaker 18: trying to enforce critical race theory in our schools. It's
- 39:24Speaker 18: as simple as that. I love what the Trump administration
- 39:26Speaker 18: has done recently about this. In America. They gave schools
- 39:30Speaker 18: until February twenty eight to get rid of all DEI,
- 39:33Speaker 18: all critical race theory out of the classroom. They're sick
- 39:36Speaker 18: of the indoctrination. They recognize it as a cancer upon
- 39:40Speaker 18: their nation. They said, get rid of it by the
- 39:42Speaker 18: twenty eighth of February or lose your federal funding. And
- 39:46Speaker 18: what school is going to risk that Now that the
- 39:49Speaker 18: date has passed, They've sent up a porthole online for
- 39:53Speaker 18: parents and teachers to access to Dobbs schools. In so
- 39:58Speaker 18: those schools, those teachers. Do you think they can still
- 40:01Speaker 18: get away with it? All parents have to do is
- 40:03Speaker 18: jump online and say hey, this is going on in
- 40:06Speaker 18: this school. This is their address, this is the name
- 40:08Speaker 18: of the teacher.
- 40:09Speaker 7: Go get them.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Well, I think the problem is the Human Rights Commission
- 40:13Speaker 1: set up to be funded for the problems. It finds
- 40:16Speaker 1: if it was funded for the good, it finds we'd
- 40:19Speaker 1: have a very different organization. And meanwhile, Stephen, why do
- 40:23Speaker 1: we let some people into this country or back into it?
- 40:27Speaker 1: I'm thinking of here now this time Asala Sayara, she
- 40:31Speaker 1: helped launch the Muslim Vote, which is a movement now
- 40:35Speaker 1: to get more Muslims the parliament of this election. She
- 40:37Speaker 1: also helped organize the ugly pro Palacinian Opera House protests
- 40:41Speaker 1: on October nine, just after the massacre of twelve hundred
- 40:44Speaker 1: Jews by Hamas, and now as photographed herself add a
- 40:48Speaker 1: rally in Jordan in December last year to celebrate that
- 40:52Speaker 1: same Hamas theist group. She joined in the chants there listen, Stephen,
- 41:05Speaker 1: I'm not saying she supports terrorist acts, but I'm saying
- 41:08Speaker 1: this footage suggests she supports alliced terrorist group and we
- 41:13Speaker 1: took her in from the Palasinian West Bank. What did
- 41:15Speaker 1: you say about our immigration system.
- 41:17Speaker 17: That it's a form of national suicide. Our immigration system
- 41:21Speaker 17: after World War II was absolutely fantastic. We focused on
- 41:25Speaker 17: people from cultures and regions which were very conducive, very
- 41:30Speaker 17: compatible with our British heritage.
- 41:33Speaker 8: We knew who we were back then.
- 41:35Speaker 17: With the policy of multiculturalism that largely came in in
- 41:39Speaker 17: the nineteen seventies, we refuse to acknowledge who we are
- 41:43Speaker 17: that is a British based nation, and that meant we
- 41:46Speaker 17: just started bringing in tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands
- 41:50Speaker 17: of people from cultures that just do not sit easily
- 41:53Speaker 17: with our culture. Now in Australia, we have thousands of
- 41:57Speaker 17: people who hate Australia, who hate jew who's who love
- 42:01Speaker 17: who love terrorist organizations. And again, Peter Dutton would be
- 42:05Speaker 17: on to a winner if he said he's just going
- 42:07Speaker 17: to deport all the people that he can deport who
- 42:11Speaker 17: are openly praising a terrorist organization.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Our immigration policy is just extraordinary to me. Where's the gratitude?
- 42:20Speaker 1: I mean, Liz, what do you make of this?
- 42:23Speaker 18: More of the same, isn't it? Andrew and doctor Fusheviro
- 42:27Speaker 18: is absolutely right there.
- 42:29Speaker 10: It's our fault.
- 42:30Speaker 18: We have imported I'd say up to a million people
- 42:34Speaker 18: now that we know that's how many people who look
- 42:37Speaker 18: not all Muslims are going to be of a worldview
- 42:40Speaker 18: that they do support Hamas or any other terrorist group.
- 42:43Speaker 18: But we know that we have masses of numbers here
- 42:46Speaker 18: from cultures that are not compatible with our own. Who
- 42:50Speaker 18: among us is enjoying this cultural enrichment, Absolutely no one.
- 42:54Speaker 18: But this is the lie, Andrew, that people throughout the
- 42:57Speaker 18: West have been sold wonder of multiculturalism, and it's no
- 43:03Speaker 18: coincidence that that has been done at the same time
- 43:06Speaker 18: that our countries have been absolutely flooded with people from
- 43:11Speaker 18: incompatible cultures, incompatible religions, and incompatible deeply held value.
- 43:17Speaker 1: They might not be incompatible cultures, but I tell you what,
- 43:20Speaker 1: and a significant number of people are trying to prove it.
- 43:22Speaker 1: Seem to be determined to prove that they are. And
- 43:26Speaker 1: that is my issue here is Liz Storo, Stephen Javera,
- 43:29Speaker 1: thank you very much to you both. After the break
- 43:31Speaker 1: the King to the rescue of Ukraine, while son while
- 43:36Speaker 1: the King's son and Mega Markel used their daughter to
- 43:39Speaker 1: flog Michael's lifestyle show. What happens to their desire for privacy?
- 43:47Speaker 1: Is Britain great again or kidding itself? We saw early
- 43:50Speaker 1: in the show the British Prime Minister is saying, don't worry.
- 43:52Speaker 1: If the US won't, we will put boots on the
- 43:55Speaker 1: ground in Ukraine to guarantee it's security from Russia in
- 43:58Speaker 1: any piece deal. There's even be talking Britain and France
- 44:00Speaker 1: protecting Europe from Russia. Within nuclear weapons of the works,
- 44:04Speaker 1: we say, hang on, you need at least another one
- 44:06Speaker 1: thousand nuclear bombs to match what Russia has. Journally from
- 44:09Speaker 1: London is author, commentator and presenter is the who is
- 44:12Speaker 1: the great to see you again? Oh this sounds great? Yeah,
- 44:15Speaker 1: great Britain again? Or is this just talk to mask
- 44:19Speaker 1: Europe's crippling weakness without the US to back it up.
- 44:25Speaker 14: Well, if you can see through it quite clearly, I
- 44:26Speaker 14: think you can guess the mood here in Britain, which
- 44:29Speaker 14: is one of utter despair and bewilderment.
- 44:32Speaker 12: I mean, just to put.
- 44:33Speaker 14: Into context the dire state of Britain's armed forces. By
- 44:36Speaker 14: the end of this year, we're expected to have less
- 44:38Speaker 14: than seventy thousand seven zero thousand trained soldiers in the
- 44:41Speaker 14: British Army.
- 44:42Speaker 12: That's not enough to fill Wembley's stadium.
- 44:44Speaker 14: We've had more people coming across the channel illegally in
- 44:47Speaker 14: the last few years than we have soldiers standing in
- 44:49Speaker 14: the British Army. And yet kirstarm Our Prime Minister prematurely
- 44:53Speaker 14: committed our troops to the Ukraine.
- 44:55Speaker 12: Border without approval from.
- 44:56Speaker 14: Parliament, without even running it by any other politician, and
- 44:58Speaker 14: without actually understanding the legit six of how underfunded our
- 45:01Speaker 14: military is. I mean, he decided to extend olive branch
- 45:04Speaker 14: to Donald Trump by saying that we're going to increase
- 45:07Speaker 14: military spending as the presensus of GDP by zero point
- 45:10Speaker 14: two percent, which is about thirteen billion pounds.
- 45:13Speaker 12: Where that money will come from, we don't know.
- 45:15Speaker 14: We can't keep our pension as warm for the winter,
- 45:17Speaker 14: but somehow they can conjure up money for our defense
- 45:19Speaker 14: forces that have been severely underfunded.
- 45:22Speaker 12: Over the last thirty years. I mean, it's almost embarrassing.
- 45:25Speaker 14: I don't think they understand the severity of this and
- 45:27Speaker 14: all the anger that's being thrown at Donald Trump for
- 45:30Speaker 14: somehow not wanting the US to continue to bankroll Europe's security.
- 45:34Speaker 14: It's completely missing the point. How have European leaders failed
- 45:37Speaker 14: in their most basic duty to protect their.
- 45:39Speaker 12: Citizens over decade?
- 45:40Speaker 14: Instead, they've been pilfering wealth, tax money on welfare, spending
- 45:45Speaker 14: on vanity projects like net zero and all of this,
- 45:48Speaker 14: and now you know, the chickens have come home to roost.
- 45:50Speaker 14: The fact that Germany and other European countries were happy
- 45:53Speaker 14: to take Russian gas and make it the base for
- 45:56Speaker 14: the industrial capacity for years just shows how so they
- 46:00Speaker 14: had paid attention to the threat of Russia. But unfortunately
- 46:02Speaker 14: they can't do that anymore.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Yes, that you put it so well, I mean you'd
- 46:08Speaker 1: laugh if it wasn't so tragic and one day potentially
- 46:12Speaker 1: very very serious. I think King Charles has been brought out,
- 46:17Speaker 1: brought out to side with Zelenski or that was meant
- 46:20Speaker 1: to stay out of politics. Well good on him, But
- 46:24Speaker 1: what do you make of that.
- 46:26Speaker 12: I don't envy King Charles.
- 46:28Speaker 14: I mean, if you think Kisal is doing a lot
- 46:29Speaker 14: of the heavy lifting, then King Charles must must have
- 46:32Speaker 14: a second career as a bodybuilder, because to be honest,
- 46:35Speaker 14: it's only King Charles and the royal family that has
- 46:37Speaker 14: basically smooth over the relationship between Trump and and Starmer's.
- 46:40Speaker 12: He's the only real reason why.
- 46:42Speaker 14: Why Trump's team is even tolerating him, because we know
- 46:44Speaker 14: that President Trump has a ponesce for the Royal family.
- 46:48Speaker 14: You know, Kiss was trying to make his position clear
- 46:50Speaker 14: and his you know, his support for the Ukraine cause clear,
- 46:53Speaker 14: while also not trying to ruffle Donald Trump's feathers. He's
- 46:56Speaker 14: been very complimentary, saying, you know, Donald Trump wants peace,
- 46:58Speaker 14: he wants what's best for everyone, and his handlers are
- 47:01Speaker 14: working over time to make him seem like a centrist,
- 47:03Speaker 14: sensible leader, when really Trump is just steamrolling all over
- 47:07Speaker 14: all these European leaders who really have to look at
- 47:09Speaker 14: themselves and how much they've disappointed and let down their
- 47:12Speaker 14: own populations over decades. And unfortunately that's that they can't
- 47:15Speaker 14: run away from that anymore.
- 47:18Speaker 1: No, no, no, that is so true. Sticking with the
- 47:21Speaker 1: Royals to see that Megan Michael has use their daughter
- 47:22Speaker 1: Princess a Lily Bit to promote a new lifestyle show
- 47:26Speaker 1: coming up. Playing a game with Markel and Tens champions
- 47:30Speaker 1: Serenda Williams is supposed And I thought they wanted Harry,
- 47:33Speaker 1: Meghan wanted ultimate privacy, especially for the children.
- 47:37Speaker 14: Yes, well, with that privacy only extends to when they
- 47:40Speaker 14: don't have something to flog. That doesn't that doesn't extend
- 47:44Speaker 14: so much when there's money to be made.
- 47:46Speaker 1: You know.
- 47:46Speaker 12: The series is coming out tomorrow.
- 47:48Speaker 14: And the US Megamarkels new series of Netflix, and really
- 47:50Speaker 14: it's kind of the last ditch effort to make sure
- 47:53Speaker 14: the Netflix has some bang for their buck.
- 47:54Speaker 12: So we'll see how it turns out.
- 47:56Speaker 14: Everyone is waiting with bated breath to see what this
- 47:58Speaker 14: you know, closet mother Stewart has for the rest of
- 48:01Speaker 14: the world.
- 48:04Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I thought it was you know, what a
- 48:07Speaker 1: coincidence that the one person that she's seen playing a
- 48:11Speaker 1: game with apart from her mother, is a famous world
- 48:14Speaker 1: champion tennis star, Like you know, I mean, seriously, can't
- 48:18Speaker 1: they just have Mazie from down the road or a
- 48:21Speaker 1: real aunt. I don't get it. It's the correctly, Thank
- 48:23Speaker 1: you so much, indeed for your time. That's it from
- 48:27Speaker 1: me with the world going to hell now. Coming up
- 48:30Speaker 1: is Sherry Markson Good Night