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Does it matter if the employee looks richer than the boss? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
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  Speaker 3: Anele and the Club on 947.
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  Speaker 4: 084-000-947.
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  Speaker 1: This is where this voice note landed.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Anele and the Club. So you won't believe what
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  Speaker 5: happened today.
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  Speaker 6: I got called into my boss's office and she started
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  Speaker 6: complaining about me overdressing. But I think the actual issue
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  Speaker 6: is that I dress better than her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, mama.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it shouldn't be an issue. But if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to look like you belong on a Forbes cover every
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  Speaker 3: day at work and your boss is not on that level,
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  Speaker 3: there's going to be a little bit. It's like driving
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  Speaker 3: a better car than your boss. And now, for instance,
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  Speaker 3: or driving a car that is above the pay grade
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  Speaker 3: that your boss knows. So let's say you have a
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  Speaker 3: husband or you have a partner that affords you a
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  Speaker 3: better car than the one that the company thinks that
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  Speaker 3: you know you fall within.
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  Speaker 1: It's always going to cause problems.
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  Speaker 7: So I have never had this issue of being better
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  Speaker 7: dressed than my boss.
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  Speaker 1: This is true. Most people.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I keep it low-low. I don't want to
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  Speaker 7: run into these kinds. I have enough issues. I don't
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  Speaker 7: need these kinds of issues.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 7: Is that why, Frankie?
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  Speaker 8: This is why.
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  Speaker 1: This is why. Well done, Frankie.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so upset that we exposed your plan.
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  Speaker 1: But here we are.
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  Speaker 7: But I can see how people do catch feelings about this.
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  Speaker 7: I suppose ladies, big issue if you've got someone who's
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  Speaker 7: dressing nicer, right?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I find within the banking circles as well
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  Speaker 3: because now you are a junior banker at Standard Bank, Investec, wherever, right?
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  Speaker 1: And you put your best foot forward.
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  Speaker 3: You're younger, you're taller, you're strappier, you look like you're
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  Speaker 3: on the GQ cover.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then your older boss, I have a friend who's
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  Speaker 3: in banking and he says every day his boss will
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  Speaker 3: make a comment like.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, looking sharp. And he's like, yes, exactly. I planned
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  Speaker 1: it this way. It wasn't a mistake.
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  Speaker 7: Don't they say dress for the job you want? Isn't
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  Speaker 7: that the conversation?
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  Speaker 1: I suppose that's what scares the boss. What are you
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  Speaker 1: dressing for, Frankie? You don't want manchet?
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  Speaker 3: There are crates in the basement that you can use
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  Speaker 3: as props.
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  Speaker 8: I think for men, I think for women, it is
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  Speaker 8: if somebody dresses better than you. I think, I don't
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  Speaker 8: know why, and I don't see it being an issue
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  Speaker 8: at all because I think you should look, however you
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  Speaker 8: want to look on the day is actually up to you.
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  Speaker 8: As long as like you're not arriving in an evening
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  Speaker 8: dress that keeps getting caught in.
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  Speaker 1: Your office chair, you're fine. I think for men, it's
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  Speaker 1: a car.
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  Speaker 8: I think as soon as your employee starts driving a
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  Speaker 8: better car and you are the boss, then it's you
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  Speaker 8: subconsciously start.
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  Speaker 1: Like oh why how can he afford that car.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm the boss and I can't.
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  Speaker 8: Afford that car I'm overpaying him maybe he made really
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  Speaker 8: good financial decisions along the way maybe he inherited it
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  Speaker 8: maybe he's got a side job that you don't know
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  Speaker 8: about maybe he's got whatever but it's so funny basically.
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  Speaker 3: What you're saying is Chris Peters in trouble yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The silence is the funniest response.
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  Speaker 7: There is no way of having this conversation without ripping someone.
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  Speaker 4: Like, there's no way.
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  Speaker 1: You were first. Yeah, but that's why I went in first.
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  Speaker 1: Sacrificial lamb.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Because Chris beats, man. 011-8838-947. Have you ever.
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  Speaker 3: Found yourself in a situation where your boss feels.
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  Speaker 1: Threatened by you? That's what it boils down to, Greg.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it boils down to. That's what it is, like,
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  Speaker 1: You're looking sharper. Therefore, you are.
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  Speaker 3: And the thing is, guys, you literally dress the way
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  Speaker 3: you want to be dressed, right? People respond to you
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  Speaker 3: better if you look sharp. So now people naturally, you know,
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  Speaker 3: slant their attention to the.
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  Speaker 1: Subordinate and not the boss.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because the boss, you're out there in a check
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  Speaker 3: shirt and chinos. And this one is dressed in like
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  Speaker 3: a navy suit looking like peace.
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  Speaker 1: With a little handkerchief. And a time piece. Oh, stop it.
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  Speaker 1: How do you navigate it? Okay. What happened? Oh, you
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  Speaker 1: were driving a better car. You were going on better holidays.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get, you know, because then they'll start doing.
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  Speaker 1: A lifestyle audit.
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  Speaker 7: Let's check.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 1: What's her name, this dolly? Kay.
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  Speaker 4: Kay.
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  Speaker 2: Kay.
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  Speaker 1: Kay has an issue.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever run into a situation like this in
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  Speaker 3: your workplace?
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Anela in the club. So you won't believe what
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  Speaker 5: happened today.
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  Speaker 6: I got called into my boss's office and she started
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  Speaker 6: complaining about me overdressing.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the actual issue is that I dress
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  Speaker 5: better than her. Hey, Anela in the club.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, girl.
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  Speaker 5: So you won't believe what happened today.
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  Speaker 6: I got called into my boss's office and she started
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  Speaker 6: complaining about me overdressing. But I think the actual issue
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  Speaker 6: is that I dress better than her.
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  Speaker 1: I was a full-time waitress.
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  Speaker 9: I was 21 years old and my boss's wife, who
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  Speaker 9: was the manageress, said to me that I must stop
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  Speaker 9: wearing different coloured mascaras.
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  Speaker 8: My boss is exactly like that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my boss is so terrible.
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  Speaker 3: Very toxic and Whenever you do anything better than her,
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  Speaker 3: you will become a target and a victim.
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  Speaker 5: And in meetings, you'd be subtweeted.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: I have this issue all the time.
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  Speaker 7: And so I'm generally the younger one in the office.
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  Speaker 3: So... It irritates me so much because everyone's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: she dresses so well because she has no kids and
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  Speaker 3: she has no real responsibilities. No, it's because you've got
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  Speaker 3: no style, Cheryl. Because dressing well has got nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do about money. It's about being able to put things
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  Speaker 3: together and making them look good.
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  Speaker 1: Tepo, you're in Rodeport. Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Annelene, the club. How are you guys?
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  Speaker 1: We are great.
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  Speaker 3: Tepo, did we scratch a little bit of a wound there?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you guys did. I'm actually triggered right
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  Speaker 4: now because what do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Tell us.
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  Speaker 4: So, all right. So, I recently just changed jobs, right? So,
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  Speaker 4: with my previous employer, I used to report directly to
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  Speaker 4: the CEO and I was the youngest amongst all the
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  Speaker 4: managers in the company, right? So, we used to do
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  Speaker 4: off-service to the mining and engineering industry and And I
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  Speaker 4: was client-facing because I was handling all the major accounts
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  Speaker 4: in mining and engineering. So seeing that I'm working for
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  Speaker 4: the corporate office, I'm like, you know what, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to dress up because I love dressing up.
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  Speaker 5: I would rock a.
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  Speaker 4: Good suit, a tie, because I'm client-facing, right?
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  Speaker 8: Agreed.
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  Speaker 4: So this one time, I got called into my manager's office,
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  Speaker 4: which is the CEO. And he's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I don't like your dress code. I'm like, what do
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  Speaker 4: you mean? He's like, no, you need to tone it
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  Speaker 4: down a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Because?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what's the reason behind you saying that? He's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: you're a bit too corporate for the environment. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: this is a corporate office and I'm client-facing and I'm
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  Speaker 4: seeing people in St. Lynn, Rosebeck, and therefore I have
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  Speaker 4: to look the part. And after that, I went to
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  Speaker 4: the bathroom, right? I called my best friend. I'm like, friend.
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  Speaker 4: Not this nigga calling me out on my dress code. Like,
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  Speaker 4: what are you wearing? I take a picture. I send
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  Speaker 4: it to her. I'm like, look at my outfit. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: he's crazy. He's jealous of you. Now that's the first instance.
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  Speaker 4: Then second time I got called out because of the
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  Speaker 4: way I produce reports. They're like, no, they are higher grade.
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  Speaker 4: And therefore the operations team is unable to comprehend. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: it's not my business that they didn't go to school.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know what? This is my cue
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  Speaker 4: to live. It's been good. I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 1: And you were out of there?
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  Speaker 4: Listen, honey, I'm out of there. And right now I'm
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  Speaker 4: wearing suits every day and I'm loving it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: The boss that said you dress too corporate.
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  Speaker 1: What did he wear every day? Chinos and a check shirt, ne?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did. And safety boots to work. And you
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  Speaker 4: know what? I didn't have a tip. I'm like, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 4: It's whatever. And guess what? I continued to be the
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  Speaker 4: best dressed in the office.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We can hear it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We can definitely hear it. Jerry O, I was so
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  Speaker 3: hoping he was not going to drop another. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: he's like, that's the first instance.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, don't tell me.
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  Speaker 3: There's another chance for you to drop a slur on
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  Speaker 3: this year's show. Apologies to anybody who was offended by that.
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  Speaker 3: We are really, really sorry. We cannot control what people say.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, it's all good, right?
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  Speaker 1: Shansi, you and Midran, talk to us.
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  Speaker 6: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: This is my second time on the radio, but I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I didn't get justice when I called into
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  Speaker 2: Tando's show. So can I get a round of applause? Welcome.
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  Speaker 4: We got you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Shansi, talk to us.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So I was an analyst at the company
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  Speaker 2: that I was working at. And I sort of kept
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  Speaker 2: to myself, you know, I don't interact. When I get
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  Speaker 2: to the office, I duck out of the parking lot
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  Speaker 2: real quick, go in, do my work. And I did
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  Speaker 2: a really good job, if I do.
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  Speaker 4: Say so myself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And then the one day, my manager saw me in
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  Speaker 2: the parking lot with the car I was driving. And
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  Speaker 2: it just happened to.
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  Speaker 4: Be a Porsche Boxster.
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  Speaker 2: And from that day, it all just went downhill. And also,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't even a disrespect thing. So, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I know my stuff. So when they say something that
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  Speaker 2: is incorrect, I would immediately push back. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it came through as an attitude, but it just,
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  Speaker 2: things were not sitting well.
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  Speaker 7: Chansey, I've got so many, we've got so many questions.
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  Speaker 7: It's just, I've taken up my pen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to have a statement and then Frankie will
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  Speaker 3: do the questions.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My angel, pushing back in a Yaris and pushing back
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  Speaker 3: in a Porsche Boxster, those are two different pushbacks.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying for now, Frankie.
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  Speaker 7: All right, Chansey.
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  Speaker 1: So were you a junior?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: At that time.
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  Speaker 7: When we talk junior, what are we talking? Like just
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  Speaker 7: out of varsity?
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  Speaker 2: No no no i just started in the company okay
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  Speaker 2: okay person was my senior.
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  Speaker 3: Okay okay how were you driving a porsche.
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  Speaker 2: Boxer my partner so he's okay.
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  Speaker 7: You're hot and and Okay, so just on your partner,
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  Speaker 7: is he named at the Mdlangakun mission or is he?
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  Speaker 4: No, he's not.
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  Speaker 7: He's not, okay.
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  Speaker 5: It's all legit.
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  Speaker 1: It's all legit, okay. And he's still your partner, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he is.
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  Speaker 2: We're engaged now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, good girl.
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  Speaker 2: You're still in the Porsche? I, well, interchangeably, I drive
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  Speaker 2: the Range Rover and the Porsche.
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  Speaker 1: I like the fact that you still want to work, right?
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  Speaker 1: But let me tell you a story. Let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you a story.
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  Speaker 3: That will explain the psychology of what happened to you.
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  Speaker 3: When Steve Jobs had started Apple, the guy started Apple
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  Speaker 3: with two of them. I don't remember the other one.
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  Speaker 1: But let's say Steve Jobs and partner.
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  Speaker 3: Things were good enough for them at Apple that they
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  Speaker 3: both drove 911s, Porsches, right? But then they were applying
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  Speaker 3: for funding. to expand Apple, to be the Apple that
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  Speaker 3: we know today. I'm pretty sure that you are well
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  Speaker 3: acquainted with how big.
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  Speaker 1: Apple is as a company today.
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  Speaker 3: So they were acquiring funding and then the funders were
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  Speaker 3: going to come and visit them at their office to
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  Speaker 3: ask the final round of questions and pretty much sign
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  Speaker 3: off to.
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  Speaker 1: Put them where they are.
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  Speaker 3: And Steve Jobs... I'm paraphrasing a bit of the story,
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  Speaker 3: but it's got the same punchline. So Steve Jobs comes
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  Speaker 3: back quickly and he says to his partner, yay, quickly,
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  Speaker 3: let's take the Porsches and let's go park them at
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  Speaker 3: another field.
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  Speaker 7: Down the street.
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  Speaker 1: Down the street.
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  Speaker 3: Then they take the Porsches and they go park them
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  Speaker 3: down the street and then they walk back to their offices.
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  Speaker 3: And the partner's like, why? Why must we? He's like,
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  Speaker 3: my friend, you always hide the Porsche.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I knew that sooner. But in my defense,
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  Speaker 2: I would duck out of the parking lot real quick.
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  Speaker 2: They just happened to catch me that day.
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  Speaker 1: My angel, you always hide the Porsche.
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  Speaker 7: The problem is, Chelsea, you can't be shy of the
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  Speaker 7: car you're driving. So I never want that for you, right?
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  Speaker 7: So I never want you to feel shy that you
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  Speaker 7: drive a Porsche, which is why you change it up
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  Speaker 7: and then you just go for something mid-level so that
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  Speaker 7: you never have to have that issue.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Range Rover is more discreet.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, can I tell you in a way?
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  Speaker 7: What color?
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  Speaker 2: It's like a champagne.
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  Speaker 3: Does it like go.
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  Speaker 4: No, luckily it doesn't.
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  Speaker 7: Sport or a Vogue?
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  Speaker 4: It's an Evoque.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. Go with the Evoque, babes.
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  Speaker 2: But also, I resigned from the company, right? I think
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  Speaker 2: it's been like two months now. And one of my
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  Speaker 2: ex-colleagues was just giving me the Hawaiian wine. And she's like, hey, so...
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  Speaker 2: Our manager asked about you the other day and she's like.
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  Speaker 4: How's Chancey?
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  Speaker 2: Is she happy? And I'm like, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in Maldives.
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  Speaker 7: It's really tough for her to cry in the Porsche.
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  Speaker 7: But if she has to, she does.
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  Speaker 3: The aircon is just so strong that it just dries
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  Speaker 3: the tears.