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- Welcome to the Drop the Needle Podcast, your backstage pass to the mystical realm. I'm your host, Jim Alstatt. And here, gifted souls step up to the mic, sharing their spiritual journey. We're hitting the high notes and the low notes of their awakening, creating a symphony of enlightenment. This isn't just another interview show. This is where divine insights are channeled and universal truths are revealed. So crank up your stereo and sit back, because who knows, this just might help you compose the next transformative chapter of your soul's purpose. Are you ready? Let's go. This is the Drop the Needle Podcast and I'm your host, Jim Alstadt. Today's guest spent more than 30 years as a magazine editor and writer building automotive enthusiast titles, Chef recipe magazines, and eventually a personal transformation magazine called Law of Attraction that sold on newsstands nationwide. And in the middle of all that very public, very professional life, she began hearing something nobody else in the room could hear. For two decades. The angels trained her to coach people in a way nobody else does by letting them ask the questions and deliver the guidance through her. She's the author of the two Time Book Fest award winning book, My Angel. Receive your divine guidance and feel the angels love. Friends, without further ado, please join me in welcoming Sue Elliot. Welcome, Sue. Thank you, Jim. It's a joy to be with you. You know, I am so happy that we were able to get this done and so quickly. I shouldn't say done. Scheduled so quickly. And I really do appreciate that. Could you do everyone a favor and maybe tell us a little bit about yourself? Sure. Well, I used to be a pretty normal person, like you said. I used to create. Right. Very. Imagine air quotes. Right. As if there's such a thing as normal. Right, Right. But I didn't always talk to angels, so I was a car magazine editor for much of my career. Before that, I'd actually been a business magazine editor. And. And I was a spokesperson for the Automotive Aftermarket. You know, I was covering drag racing and, you know. Right. Crawling around in garages telling people how to do different things to their vintage cars. So I was about, as you know, in the real world as you could get. And I was also on a parallel journey of personal development, personal growth, spiritual. Not exactly awakening. Because I never forgot, like, I came into this life knowing that we each had what I thought of as like a spark of the divine or a part of the divine inside of us. And fortunately for me, nobody talked me out of that when I was a kid. So I was able to make it through Life still believing I was connected to the divine, But I was. I was very much in cause and effect reality. Right. You do. I need to make things happen. And. And I was good at doing the magazine thing, right? Like, you did it long enough, you'd think that you had to be pretty good at that. But the last magazine I launched, the Personal Transformation magazine, really began the part of my training of doing work a different way. Like, I was always following my heart. I wasn't interested in business magazines. I was really into cars, so I started working on car magazines. And then I moved to the Napa Valley, and I was really into restaurants and chefs. And that's when Food Network was kind of new and chefs were the new rock stars. So I started creating chef recipe food magazines because I loved that. And I was on this personal transformation journey. So to be able to create a personal transformation magazine was like a dream come true. And the funny thing is, the company that I worked with changed owners and changed names many times over the years, as so many corporations do. It was Peterson Publishing. In the beginning, they launched. They launched the car magazine publishing world. They launched Hot Rod and then Motor Trend. Okay, that company. And then they were named emap, and then they were Primedia. And by the time I launched the personal transformation magazine, they were called Source Interlink Media, or Source for short. So Source was publishing the transformation magazine. That's. But it really demanded that I walk my talk all day. Like, I could get stressed out with deadlines and all that stuff that you have in magazines, doing the other magazines. But I knew if I got stressed out doing this Personal Transformation magazine, that energy was going into the magazine and these readers would feel it. And so I had to start managing my energy more as I was doing the work and being more mindful of. And I also was working with a different kind of contributor. So these were coaches, healers, you know, experts of various forms of personal transformation who weren't writers. And so it was also like, coaxing out the really good stuff from them, so going back and forth a lot of time. So it was a more collaborative part of the journey, too. Even though I worked alone at home, I felt really connected with people and connected with Source. That's very cool. That's very cool. And I can. I hear what you're saying, especially from the. Working from home. I've been doing that for a number of years myself, so I get it. And then when you have the opportunity to collaborate with somebody, it's exciting and it's fresh. I know that may be hard for some people to understand. Because you go, oh, I'm doing the same thing every day. But you're not. Because each person has a different insight or a different perspective on things. And going down those paths with people is really neat. I bet you learned a lot during that time about yourself and others. For sure. Yes, always. I mean, that's the way I'm wired. So I go through the world and I'm like, I wonder why they're like that. I wonder why they said that thing the way they said that. It's just how I'm built as. And the angels are saying, like, forever. That's the way I've always been as a soul. That's how I am. I am about understanding interpersonal dynamics and the way things influence and affect people. And so that's. It's a big part of who I am, which is why I was chosen to write this book with the angels. That's very cool. And speaking of the book, I know that you had in your book, you had mentioned that the work is subtraction, not addition. You know, spiritual growth isn't acquiring new skills or practices. It's removing what was layered on top of the real you. And the reason that resonates with me, because I had, I think from the last time we spoke, my book actually released. Did I just have a spiritual awakening or is it something I ate? It's right behind me, the picture of the book cover. And I make a very similar reference to that. But yours is probably. Well, yours isn't probably. It is different because I view it from this perspective where, for example, somebody says, well, I don't know that I like the new you. And I just said, well, here's the thing. I can appreciate your perspective or your feelings on that. However, I don't think that it is a new me. I think it's the old me that is being rediscovered, not built up. So that's interesting. I want to hear you talk about your perspective on that, please. I love this. So we do, the angels and I, we hold the book as more of a remembering and less of a learning, right? And it's because it's reconnecting you with the truth of who you are. And when we say that, we mean as a higher self or a soul or the essence of who you are lifetime after lifetime. And so the subtractive part, right, the getting rid of part is what we call gunk technical terms. And go is just limiting beliefs, rules you made for yourself when you were three years old. That made perfect sense to a Three year old? Sure. You know, subconscious programming which is rampant on the planet. So each of us come in, we're this amazing little being and even before we're born, while we're in utero, we start picking up the rules to live by. Dr. Bruce Lipton talks about how, you know, we come in and for the first seven years we have no filter. We just take it all in. Right. Truth and rules. And it becomes the subconscious programming that helps run the show behind the scenes. Right. We're, we're habit making machines because there's so much information coming in every second. Yeah. Something like 2 billion bits of information come in just through our eyes every second. Right. So imagine stuff and your nose is picking filters. Yeah. So the brain has to. Right. Our brains have to discern like what's important and what's not important so that we can make it through life without being distracted by every shiny thing in Squirrel. Welcome to my Reynolds. Yeah. And one of the, the pros and cons of that is we only see what we believe. So our subconscious programming becomes the filters through which we see reality. So all of that stuff becomes, Bruce Lipton likes to say, kind of locked in at 7, 8 years old. And then we're not aware of it. It just is how the world is from our perspective. And we assume everybody else has the same perspective. Nobody has the same perspective, by the way. But. But that's a different but. So that what the angels and I do and what the book actually does for you, Unlike most self help books, the angels actually do a lot of the work through this book for you. Dissolving limiting beliefs, subconscious programming, the rules that we made for ourselves as kids that became programming or all of those belief systems that are getting in the way. So if you believe it's a cold, cruel world, it's very hard to see somebody doing an act of kindness right in front of you. And if they you do see it, you probably attribute some other motive to it. Right. Like somebody skepticism associated with it. Right. Yeah. Somebody holds the door for you because your hands are full and they're like, look at that guy checking out my ass. You know that happens to me all the time by the way. Just, I have no ass. Maybe it does. Anyway, sorry. Oh my gosh. Sorry to sidetrack you with that one. That was awesome. So you mentioned dissolving those limiting beliefs and in the book you talk about the angels being able to dissolve those things through attunements. The attunements that are said to dissolve those limiting beliefs on contact which is really a lot different than what I, I think the popular point of view is where it's, hey, it's your work, all the work is on you. You better get started. And what you're saying is that they're, like I said, they're doing the heavy lifting for you in, in this instance and they're going to take care of that for you. Is that, how does that come about? Let me, let me, let me start with that. How does that come about? That's a great question. So most of the time it is, the heavy lifting is on you, right? And most people will tell you that it's really hard to get rid of that stuff. The angels are here. The angels that I work with are here to help humanity rise up into a higher level of consciousness. And this is the work. So, you know, we're still on a free will planet. They are not going to impose even divine intent upon you. You get to choose every moment of every day. However, the minute you say angels, you know, dissolve this stuff for me or you open up the book to a page. And so these are what mean by angel attunements. They look kind of like angel cards, right? Somebody was teasing me that this looks like a magazine. And I was like, well, of course it does. I did magazines for things 30 years. But each of these combinations of words and pictures have been energetically attuned by the angels to dissolve the related programming for that. There are 63 short chapters and each one has an angel attunement to start. And so they are going to meet you where you are. So they're going to dissolve whatever is in your space that you're ready to let go of. So we're not going to say it's one and done for all of these because in most cases that would leave too big of a gap in who I am and how I, how I function in the world. And they don't like to leave chasms. They're not trying to debilitate you, they're very gentle. So sometimes it's something that you don't have a lot of gunk around and you look at it once and it really does, it is one and done. And sometimes it's a big thing that you've been, you've chosen to come into this lifetime to experience. And so maybe there are a lot more layers of that onion, but every time you go there, it's going to pull away everything that you're ready to let go of. So again, free Will Planet and angels are very loving and Kind and gentle. So they're not going to rip things out of you that you're not ready to let go. And we say that because sometimes we have some identity wrapped up in things, you know, people belong to, like, support groups of different flavors or. And so they don't want to strip you of your support system in the world if pulling everything related to that would do it. And they also don't want to strip you of your support system in the world in terms of changing you so much all in one go that all of your relationships have to fall away. Right there. You mentioned before there are people who are like, I'm not sure I like the new you. Yeah. And that, you know, everybody on a spiritual transformation experience in this lifetime gets that there's a time where we are no longer willing to contort ourselves or pretend to be or try to be who we had been trying to be before. That's exactly right. And I think that that's. Let's put it this way. I know from firsthand experience that it's. I mentioned the heavy lifting. That's heavy. And for me, it became quite literally a weight where trying to do all of these things that was not who my authentic self is or was just added layers of weight. I mean, literally got to almost £400. So I understand exactly what you're. You're saying, because that wasn't. That wasn't a metaphor for me. That was. That was lived. So I. I completely buy into to that wholeheartedly. Now, something I want to talk about, too, is you described your shift publicly as coming out of the spiritual closet. And that phrase implies years of knowing something privately before saying it out loud. So what was that like carrying that weight or that awareness through boardrooms, through editorial meetings. So it was more like a series of closets. Like nesting closets. Nesting dolls closet. Um, Go. There's another one. So, you know, the last magazine I did, it was pretty clear to everybody in the publishing company what I was about and who I was. I mean, I didn't walk around saying to everybody, hi, the angels want you to know, but. But by then. And the funny thing. Funny, not funny. Right. That was the most beloved magazine within the publishing company that I had done. Like, people were so sad when that magazine stopped. Like, people I had never met would stop me in the hallway and say, I'm really sorry about the magazine because it brought light and it brought joy and it brought more ease into people's lives because everybody in the company could get a free copy of it. So in that space, it was relatively easy. And even now when I go to a car show, I don't talk about angels because it's just not relevant. Right. Like I showed cars. So it's sort of different emphases in different spaces. But at one point along the journey, I recognized that all of the coaching clients I had were business owners or business leaders. And some of them were solopreneurs, but some of them, you know, were at Fortune 100 companies. They had lots of people that they, you know, affected every day. And for years I tried to describe what I do in non spiritual terms. And you know, eventually I got to like inspired business, you know, taking inspired action as opposed to motivated action. I started to make those distinctions, but I was really afraid to say, like on LinkedIn, let the angels guide you in your everyday work. Get it? Yeah, I get that. Because it just felt so woo woo. And the world has changed a lot. There have been a lot of people awakening. And so, you know, the experience of a Shirley MacLaine, it would be different today if she were doing what she had done, you know, in the 80s and 90s. So. But I was very aware of the experience of Shirley MacLaine because so similarities. And I didn't want to be that. It's so funny because it seemed less powerful in some ways to say, bring your divine guidance in, tune into the angels, let the angels help you. It's. And that was all programming, right? That was all the kind of programming that keeps us feeling scared and separate and not our powerful divine selves. Gotcha. So one day, and it wasn't very long ago, maybe five, six years ago, I finally went, oh, this way that I do leadership coaching, this talking to the angels part, that's my unique selling proposition. That's the actual value. That's what makes me different from every other leadership coach on the planet. Sure. And pulls from the same bucket. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, that's not something to hide. That's actually the thing to lead with. And I had been leading with it in coaching on a personal level. Right. How does that work in business though? That's a great question. So the term that I resonate with now to bring this into a workspace and which will be a book one of these years, is harmonious leadership, Vision boards affirmation still stuck. Here's what nobody tells you. It's hard to manifest from a body still stuck in survival mode. Sometimes the vision has to wait for the body to catch up. At the listening field retreat, Aug. 21 to the 23rd, at Eaglewood Resort and Spa, Julie Grant clears old family patterns. Kerry Muller uses sound to bring your body back online. And Jim Alstott shows you what it takes to turn intention into something you live. You don't need another notebook. You need to feel different. Visit thechillcrew.org the Listening Retreat welcome back, everyone. Welcome back to the Drop the Needle podcast. This is Jim Alstott, and we are back now with Sue Elliott. Hi, Sue. Hi again. Hi again. Hello again. Hello again. All right. One of the things we were just talking about was the corporate acceptance. Let's just call it acceptance to more of a spiritual type of coaching. And you said that your, your shift in, what resonates now is, and I'm going to let you take it from there, is harmonious leadership. So the last chapter in this book, which is kind of the foundational book for everything, is inner harmony. And being a music person, I know you're going to relate to harmony or disharmony, right? Like, we can all hear when things are discordant. And so as a leader in an organization or an individual moving through daily life, like, the most important thing is to notice when am I feeling inner harmony and when am I feeling turbulence? And if I'm feeling turbulence, to give myself that pause. Can't always do it at the moment, but, you know, whenever you can, as soon as you can, to recenter to be love for myself, to, you know, have a conversation with whatever emotions are arising, to do all the things, to use the tools and the techniques and the practices, to close my eyes and take three deep breaths. The best free reset we have that you can do in the middle of a business meeting is you can close your eyes and take three deep breaths and most people won't even notice you did that. But it tells your nervous system it's a false alarm, right? So if you're feeling yourself starting to go into fight or flight and you close your eyes and take three deep breaths, the ancient part of your brain knows you're not running from a saber tooth tiger because you can't close your eyes and take three deep breaths when that's happening. So it's like, oh, okay, false alarm. And it starts to reset. So if we bring this into a business space, so I'm a leader and I feel myself starting to get agitated, frustrated, I can do that. I can do whatever it takes for me to reset. If I'm leading a meeting and I notice that the team is starting to really not listen to each other, talk over each other, or you know, things are getting very tense. I can ask for a pause and a recentering of the conversation or I can suggest that we all go and like get more information and we'll reconvene tomorrow, come back at together in a new space. Right. Literally reset. I can bring this harmony or discord conversation into every aspect of business. So sometimes, for example, we hire somebody and we love this person, but they're just not gelling in this space. Right. It's not a harmonious department for them or a harmonious role for them if they're the square peg in the round hole. And so we can use that metaphor or tool. Right. Is this harmonious or not to say, well, we love this person. They'd probably be better on, you know, Bob's team. So we're going to move them over there. And so it's an easy metric that people can really relate to and viscerally feel and give themselves permission to use that to check in with others. Right. So how are you feeling right now? I noticed something just shifted in you. Are you feeling a lot of turbulence right now? Like, do you want to take a moment to reset? When we start to have conversations around that and normalize that in interactions in our family or in the workplace or at school or wherever it may be, it's super duper empowering because it brings self awareness and it brings the ability, the recognition that we can change how we're feeling and how we're interacting with each other. It can change the trajectory of every unfolding quickly too. And that's the thing. Instead of getting mired in it, you're just digging in and holding onto it. You can, you can switch, you can pivot quickly. Yes. And instead of being reactive. Right. Having that same old knee jerk response to whatever stimulus happened outside of us, it gives us our power back. And now we have a moment where we actually reflect and we can choose a different response. And the angels want to say that is one of the most powerful things you can ever do. You can change every relationship in your life. You can change your experience, workplaces just by giving yourself that power of the pause and choosing something different. And sometimes that's saying nothing or doing nothing. Yes. And I like the power of the pause. That's great. And you just mentioned the angels saying to you. So when you say you hear messages from the angels, walk us through what that actually is for you. A voice, a knowing words forming. Help the skeptic in my audience understand the mechanics behind that. Sure. So it's a lot of different things. When I was little, like 6, 7 years old, I used to dream things, and then that exact thing would happen the next day in school. And that freaked me out. So I turned off the like, sort of prophetic dream thing and the most of the clairvoyance, the visual part of it. Now, they will sometimes show me a little movie, like a little snippet where they'll show me. And they do this for everybody. They want to say they'll show us an image. And it. And sometimes it's. Some people are more smell oriented. They'll bring you a scent that reminds you of grandma's cookies or, you know, the smell of the earth after the rain. Something that has an emotion attached to it. So sometimes. And they want to say this for everybody receiving their guidance. If you're sitting in a conversation with a salesperson and all of a sudden you see an image of somebody who ripped you off 20 years ago, that is your divine guidance saying, no thank you to this salesperson. Like, they will do it kind of in. In symbolism, but really, because it's efficient. Right. It's so efficient to show you one image and you get like 12 years worth of information because you knew that person. So you're like, oh, great, a picture paints a thousand words type of thing. Yeah, that. It brings all the feelings, it brings everything into the frame quickly. So that's. That's awesome. Yeah. So there's some of that, and then there's. When I actually hear the angels, sometimes it's very clear, like, say this or ask that. Other times it's almost like a whole bunch of people talking at once, because there's a lot of angels who have a lot of input. And then it's. You know, I kind of take a moment to like, parse out what all that was and organize it into words. So sometimes it's chunks of information that I get to put words to, and sometimes it's, tell that story. So they say, you know, tell the story of when that happened to you. And so I do, and sometimes I don't. Sometimes I argue with them, and they're always right. Yeah, well, I think it's hard to be wrong from that position. I was going to say that perch, but I wasn't even trying to be funny with the wings and everything. But I'm serious, I was going to say perch, and I went, pull that back. Too late. I already did. Now. So the angels didn't just talk to you. You said they trained you to coach in a specific way, letting them ask the questions and deliver the guidance through you, what did that training look like? It looked like me moving to the Napa Valley when I got unmarried, and I didn't know anybody. So I would go, well, I knew one person, but I would go and sit at the bar at a restaurant because, you know, Napa Valley, great restaurants. So I go sit at the bar by myself and order an appetizer and a glass of wine. And inevitably, whoever I was sitting next to would be going through some major life decision. Do I stay in my marriage or leave my marriage? Do I stay in this job or change careers? And so we would chat, and we would share wine, food, and have a good old time. And by the end of the conversation, they would say, wow, I have so much clarity now, because the angels were giving me things to ask them, you know, questions to ask, sometimes really weird things to say. And I was like, really? Why would I say that strange thing? And every time I would say the strange thing the angels told me to say, the person would say something like, I was just wondering about that, or my dad used to always say that. Or I was like, okay, more validation and confirmation. Right? And by the end of the conversation, the person would say, wow, I have so much clarity. I know exactly what I'm going to do now. And then I would never see that person again. And, you know, years later, I was like, did the angels just invent those people to teach me how to do this work? They're testing me. Testing? No, but, like, training. It was a very gentle, like, no pressure kind of training ground because I wasn't officially a coach. I wasn't asking him for business or money. I was just having a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just having fun being me. Well, that's funny, because that also kind of makes sense from the standpoint that we always hear. In order for these downloads or information to come in, it's best to be in that relaxed state. So you being in that relaxed state, not having any expectations or intentions, having these conversations with people, that makes a lot of sense as to why it happened in that environment. To me, it does. Oh, and the angels want to jump in and add. You are getting guidance 100% of the time, every moment of every day. They're bringing you guidance. It doesn't matter if you're meditating, you're relaxed, you're stressed, you're terrified. Like, the flavor of guidance will be different if you're terrified. It's going to be more how to, you know, help you feel safe or be safe in that moment. Right. But yeah, it's always, I like that too personally, I'll take all the help I can get. So I welcome that all the time. And I want to bounce back a little bit because something that you hit on and we talked about. The book holds 63 messages and each one opens with the angel attunement words and images that you say dissolve limiting beliefs just by looking at them or even thinking about them. And that's, I gotta tell you, that is a big claim. It really is. And can you explain how that works then for everyone? Sure, sure. Well, they want to say to some degree it works differently for everyone because we're all different. The angels know exactly where we are on our journeys. They know what's getting in our way. They know what we desire better than we do. In fact, if the only thing you remember from this conversation is to, to every day say, angels, surprise and delight me. Your life will be wonderful. Like they will bring you unfoldings better than you can imagine for yourself and they will dissolve the things in the way of that. So the angels are really, really good and different angels do different things. Like I said, these angels are here specifically to help humanity rise into a higher level of consciousness. So they have billions of years of experience doing this. Right. They maybe some have fewer than that, but they have vast experience and of course all of the resources of the divine at their disposal. So they can sense what's going on in our systems. And they love us so much that they're just waiting for our invitation for them to help us. So something as simple as opening the book. Unless you're opening the book to make fun of it, but you know, they know where you're coming from if you're opening the book, that's essentially an invitation for them to help. Because it's a free will planet. There's only so much they can do unless we say help or. That's what I was going to say. I, I think the, and this is just my perception, I think the book is set up in such a way that you go, okay, this might be heavy on my heart or I'm struggling with this and this is my intention, I'd love for whatever you could. Just like you're shuffling, not shuffling a deck, but you know what I mean, like spreading that and then just stop on a page and go, okay, even if it's in the chapter, it might be exactly what you need to see in here, within that chapter. So it cuts right to it. But then you can go back to the beginning of the chapter. And read it and do the attunement and everything else. That's what I see it as being set up, which I think is genius, by the way. I really like that very much. Was that done by intention or was it. Absolutely. So the book can be played with three different ways. You can read it front to back like a normal book. Works like that. You can. A lot of people are telling me they like to keep it on their nightstand and read a chapter or two at night because it helps them sort of relax and trust and drink you a more peaceful sleep. Yeah. Or you can do exactly what you said, like use it as a divination tool. You can. And you don't have to make it sound all like airy fairy. You can ask a question and let the book open to a random page. Or if you have the digital version, you may hear a number, and you just go to that. And you'll know if you go to that chapter or that page, like, it doesn't really matter. The angels say, you could do this with the dictionary. You could do it with any book. However, this book was really set up to do it. So the messages feel like loving support. They feel nurturing. And the angels will take you to the right page and they will help you receive what you're ready to receive. And they're saying, because we're on this journey of evolving and becoming and always, you know, it's a spiral journey. So we're always moving up around the spiral. It may seem sometimes like you're going through that same thing again. Like, how can I be back at square one again? I've done all this work. And they want to say that you're never back at square one. You're like. You're higher up on the spiral. So if you gently notice. Hey, the last time, you know, it used to be when that person said that thing, I would be. I would be a wreck for a week. Right. Said that thing, and I was annoyed for 10 minutes. Big difference. Your. Your level, your baseline is at a different point or a different frequency. Now, that's the same thing using the book. So as you evolve, what you get from the book will evolve as well. So the book is kind of an evolving consciousness. I was just going to say that I think it's something that is like a travel companion. You can. You can always have it with you and keep. You can defer to it and pick up something new each time because your point of view or perspective is going to be different from wherever you are in that point in your Your life. So you. Two things that came up out of what you just said, and one of them was that you tell the readers to stop asking the big questions. Is this person the one? Is this my life's work? That sort of thing. Because angels say that those are really unanswerable. Right. And you just say, just ask for the next step. Why is the next step the only honest question? Oh, great question. I love it. And interestingly, that was the card that we went to when I just randomly opened the book earlier, was one next step step, get out. And that's, that's how angels bring us our guidance. For a lot of reasons, when people are shown their entire life journey, it's usually overwhelming and sometimes totally debilitating. So, you know, they're kind and loving and they don't want to do that to us. So they show us one next step. But the, the unanswerable questions part has to do with, first of all, how much things are changing. We know that change is happening faster and faster. So if you're trying to figure out, is this the career I'm going to do for the rest of my life? There's a very good chance that that career will not exist for the rest of your life. So it's an unanswerable question from that perspective. But also, you're going to change and you're going to evolve, and it's not wrong for you to change careers at some point. I was really fortunate that both of my parents changed careers while I was in college. And so it kind of took all that pressure off of me. I was like, oh, I don't have to figure out what I want to do for the rest of my life. I just have to figure out what I want to do right now. And so that was a much easier question to answer. So I had that experience to bring to this as well. But with like, you know, is he the one? The angels want to play with that a bit because my single girlfriends will go on, you know, one or two or three dates with somebody and be like, I can't tell if he's the one. Of course you can't, because you don't have enough information. I mean, you have enough information to know for sure if he's not the one. But you don't usually have enough information after a date or two to know if you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody. The body of work hasn't been developed yet. Yeah. And for the most part, we're on this journey of evolving and becoming so Dating is part of that journey. Right. Or anything else. Job interviews, whatever it may be, we're going to these experiences to gather more data. Right. Like, this is the person my mom and dad said I should fall in love with and marry. And you know what? It turns out that successful attorney is not really who I want to be with after all. Right. So that's super useful information. It wasn't a terrible date. It was very helpful in the journey of becoming ready to be with your ideal partner for that next journey. So sometimes we have to heal some wounds that we picked up from childhood or from other relationships where I have to learn that it's okay to be myself. Speak up. That's so hard for some people, though, to be themselves. That requires, quite honestly, requires courage. Yes. And. And the angels aren't saying that we're bad or wrong for not being there yet. Right. We're on a journey of getting there. So they'll bring us the divinely perfect and often very gentle experiences to start to get there. So they'll bring you something, somebody who, you know you're talking about something benign and they misunderstand you and you get to explain what you really meant. Yes. And so you practice the skills in a setting that's very low stakes. Right. A first date with somebody is not a high stakes setting. And, and so we get to practice all these things and shed the stuff that's in the way, and eventually we're ready for a deeper, more transformative relationship. And, and if that doesn't last forever, the angels want to say that's not a failure either. Right. Because again, you're both evolving into becoming and not everybody is on exactly the same path. In fact, most people are not on exactly. Correct. Right, Right, right. Yes. So. So the answerable question is always the instead of, is this person the one? Do I want to go on one more date with this person? And you can absolutely feel a yes or no to that question, right? Yes. That is an easier question to propose and then to answer. Yeah, you're absolutely right with that. So if it's career, you know, instead of, is this one I want to major in because I want to be an attorney? It's do I want to take one more class in this subject? Right. Am I interested enough to take one more class? And it's a really easy question to answer. And if it's a no, then you probably, probably don't want that career. Right. Like, sometimes the answerable question answers the unanswerable question for you, but it's a much Smaller bite. It's much easier to feel and sense. The other ones have so many moving parts and pieces. Yeah, it's really hard to see from where we stand right now. No, I get that. I get that. And that's a, that's a great way to frame that. Thank you so much. The angels say that their love is constant, always present, unconditional, and yet. And this kind of feeds into the question, you know, is this person the one? A lot of people out there just walking around today feel profoundly alone or lonely. How do you explain that gap? Where does all that love go? Thank you for asking this. I'm getting a huge wave of goosebumps. So if the angels want to start with, they are always with you. And not just one angel. You don't just have one angel with you, you have legions of angels with you. And angels are infinite beings. They can be with everyone simultaneously. So they want to reassure those people who think if I ask, I'm going to deprive somebody else of the angels. Say that again because I think there's a, a misperception of that out there. What you just said about the, the angels, infinite beings. Yes. They can help everyone simultaneously. The exact same angels can help everyone simultaneously. So they really want us to ask about everything because when we ask, we're not depriving anybody else. It's not like there's only, you know, 27 angel tickets available and you can only, you know, you have the little coupon book and you can only use that many. If you use yours, then they can't be helping anybody else. No, they're helping everyone. And they can help you with everything. Perfect. But the loneliness thing is partly created in order to control people. Right. We want to separate people from each other and from their connection to the divine because they're much easier to manipulate and control. Some that's not always malicious. You know, sometimes the marketing machine just wants you to buy something that you don't really need. Yeah, but the loneliness thing comes from a lot of programming that's out there. So there's a lot of programming, especially in America, we have this, this myth of the self made millionaire, the self made man. Right. We have this. It's like a big cultural thing that I have to be independent, self sufficient. Well, independent self sufficient cuts you off from resources, Right. It cuts you off from connection and comrades, collaboration. At that point, you know, we say resources, it's just from source and from others who really want to help. Right. So. So I'm guessing that most of the people listening to this podcast are over givers. And we have tons of programming that says it's better to give than to receive. Right. Be a giver, not a taker. Right. However, in order for someone to give, someone has to receive. There's a reciprocity in this sort of process. And so the angels would love for us to practice receiving, even if it's something as simple as receiving a compliment, which is hard for a lot of us. You know, people who are like, oh, those are great shoes. You're like, oh, these old things, right? Like, I've had these for 20 years. I talk about that with people a lot where I still struggle with it, honestly. I still struggle with the fact that if someone gives me a compliment, you know, well, you know what it's like to write a book. And so it says, well, oh, I really loved your book. Yeah, it was great. How long did it must have taken you? A long time. Ah, no, it was easy. And it was like going, why? Why did you say that? You know, it was nothing. Nothing really. It wasn't. Was no big deal. I don't know why we're programmed that way. Yeah, we are programmed that way. So there are other programs around Pride, right. And they want to say that a lot of that ties into being programmed to need external validation and approval. So when we need external validation and approval, and it happens from the earliest stages because your parents want you to, you know, do what they want you to do and not run out in the street and get run over by a car and not burn the house down. And, you know, they have some valid reasons for wanting you to want. Exactly, yes. And we get trained out of listening to our guidance, knowing our truth. Right. Your mom is cold while she's sitting on the bench watching you run around. So she makes you put on a sweater, even though you're warm enough because you're running around. So we start to not listen and not trust our own knowing. And so there's all of this subconscious programming in the collective. There's the stuff we got individually. It's this collective soup of energy that we're in. And a lot of that separates us from each other. Again, that makes us much easier to control. When we all feel connected to one another and to the divine, we recognize how powerful we are. And so the journey now is just learning to. Maybe when somebody offers to help you with something, let them. You know, maybe when somebody gives you a compliment, like, let them see you, but even more, what makes that easier and more possible, both for them and for you? Is when we become self seeing and self approving. So the, the cure for all of that gunk, besides letting the angels dissolve the gunk for you, is to really practice. And maybe this is a morning or an evening ritual where you write down one thing you see and appreciate about yourself. Right? So I managed to write this book and that wasn't ideal or something simple like, I have a gift for picking the perfect greeting card. People always tell me, wow, this was like the perfect card. It's silly and it's mundane, but it's also kind of meaningful. It's a connection thing. So it doesn't matter if you write down something ginormous or something little and tiny, like, I complimented that person at the bank and it seemed to really shift her mood. Right. You could just write down one thing you see and appreciate about yourself or five or whatever. If you're on a roll, you know, have. Have at it. Do it. Yeah, go. Yeah, go, go, go. As we do this, as we see and appreciate ourselves, we no longer need it from others. And neediness is a repelling energy. So neediness, clinginess, right? That starts with our romantic and other relationships. When you're the person at work who constantly needs positive feedback. Your boss is like, but you stop, close again. Yeah, right, right, right. Close the door quick. Right? Yeah. If we give it to ourselves, we don't need it from other people. And that lets them off the hook. It lets us, you know, it takes back our power because they may not be in the mood to give it to us. They may not be able to see us. They may be in the middle of all their own gunk, right? They're going through their horrible whatever it was that just happened and walk in there needing whatever we need. And they're like, like, please, just leave me alone. It's all I can do not to cry, scream, throw things, Right? Yeah. So we walk into the middle of their gunk, and then we feel even worse. And so the more we start to become self seeing, self appreciating, self validating, self loving, the more we can move through the world and be impervious to the gunk. So is that then what you talk about with restoring people to their original factory settings? This. This type of work, you're not adding anything. It's removing some of those things. So, yes, we come in. Well, think of a little toddler, right? Everything is new, everything is interesting. Bugs are interesting. Snakes are interesting. Blades of grass are fascinating. Right? Like, foods are really, like, they want to try everything. Mom and dad are Eating. Everything is fresh and new and interesting. And they have questions, and that's how we're meant to function. Receptive. They don't say, oh, no, I. You know, you say they're adorable, and they don't say, no, I'm not. No, thank you for noticing. Right. They just keep being adorable. So that's our natural state. That's our original factory setting. And that term comes from all those years as a car magazine. Sure. Yes. Like when you. When you buy a car, a truck, these days, they have all these computers in them, and if you want to modify it to make it perform better, you have to change from the original factory settings. So that's super fun for cars and trucks, but not so fun for people. So what modifies us is the gunk, the belief that I'm too much of this and I'm not enough of that. And that starts right around that time of being a toddler. Right. Why can't you be more like your sister? Why are you so loud all the time? You're, you know. Or speak up, I can't hear you. Like, you're too much of this and you're not enough. So then what's the very first layer? Most of us need to let go of all that gunk. They want to say it's mostly different. May we dissolve some? Can we dive right in and do it? Okay. Please? All right. So the angels want to dissolve all of the ways that we tell ourselves that we're not okay. The. It doesn't matter where those beliefs came from. It doesn't matter if that was mom or your second grade teacher. It really doesn't matter. The angels want to go in and begin to restore you to your original factory settings. And it's not going to happen overnight. That would be debilitating for most of us, but it will start to unfold over the coming days and weeks. So just gently notice. If you feel less needing to seem a certain way, that's a sure sign. If you feel more comfortable with who you are, less trying to hide aspects of yourself, that's a sure sign. The angels want you to know that you are unique in all of the cosmos. There is nobody else exactly like you, not just on this planet, but anywhere. And you were made that way on purpose by the divine. So you have a unique combination or constellation of likes and dislikes, preferences of gifts and talents and abilities, superpowers. You have had a unique combination of experiences in this lifetime that have brought you insights and awareness and empathy. And throughout all of this, You are well, they want to say that our definition of oneness, or what some people are talking about now is unity, is imagining the Divine as this giant jewel, like the biggest sparkly diamond you could imagine. And we are each a different facet on that one jewel. And so, you know, a facet of a diamond is a diamond, right? Like, we just know that that's kind of a dumb thing to what we're wonder about. Well, a facet of the divine is divine. You are divine, I am divine. We are all equally divine. And we each are at a slightly different vantage point, right? Some facets of the diamond are right next to each other and some facets are on opposite sides of the jewel. So we have very different perspectives on reality. It doesn't mean that one of us is right and one of us is wrong. It means that we're probably not very resonant with one another. So, you know, we may not love hanging out, but that's okay. They want us to know that as an aspect of the Divine, you were created that way by the Divine. That's why you're totally unique, for the joy, the pleasure of experiencing life as you. So the Divine gets to experience life through your unique perspective. And that's so valuable and delicious. And so they want you to know there's nothing wrong with you. You were made the way you were on purpose by the Divine. Now, maybe your parents had a hard time with it, or your third grade teacher had a hard time with it, or your sibling had a hard time with it, but that doesn't mean that you were wrong. It meant that they had some stuff going on in their life that made it hard to be with you. Maybe they were on the opposite side of the jewel and you were just too different from them and they didn't get you. A lot of us have that experience. So the angels want to reassure you and comfort you because the angels love for you and the Divine's love for you is completely unconditional. And they want to say that again, it's unconditional. Which is very different from most of the love on this planet, which says, you know, if you do this, I will love you, and if you do that, I will punish you and I will withdraw my love from you forever. The angels, there's nothing you could have done or not done, said or not said that would stop them from loving you. They love you. Well, I can tell you this, that attunement was very timely. So I appreciate you, you doing that. That was needed and appreciated. So I thank you. Thank you for that. If. If you're okay with this, I'd like to go ahead and get started with the section that we do with every episode, which is the musical section where I have the opportunity to ask you some questions. Yes. You ready? All right. Yay. All right, so let's get ready to go here. So what was the first song that you fell in love with on the radio and one you can remember thinking, I can't wait to hear that one again. So I remember this actually as being on the jukebox in my next door neighbor's house. So they had a cool old seabird in the den, and we could play the songs on it without needing quarters or dimes or whatever it was, which made it even cooler. Yeah. And so the song that I always wanted to play was the bird. Turn, turn, turn. Ooh. Okay. And I had no idea it came from the Bible at the time. I'm not sure when I figured that out, but I just love the. You know, to everything there is a season. Okay. That's very cool. Yeah. Kind of unusual for maybe a five year old. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that song really resonates with me. Did your family have a song that everyone would belt out on road trips or vacations growing up? Or it could have been when you started your own family or with your friends. It doesn't. Doesn't really matter. Okay. So with my girlfriends, I remember singing in the car. Joan Jett. I love rock and roll. Oh, yeah, that was. Yeah, that was fun. And we would go cruising in my car. You know, we'd cruise mostly Westwood to meet the UCLA boys. Listen, going trolling. Yeah, we look great. Roll down the window. So what was the song that you and your friends would belt out in your senior year of high school? Journey. Don't Stop Believing. Love that. Yeah. Which is so appropriate looking back. Don't stop believing. Yeah. Thanks, Angels. Good message also. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it absolutely is you just when you said that, I was like, yeah, yeah, right. Connect, connect. Yeah. All the dots are connecting. So did your musical taste change after high school when you were in college? Really? I mean, when I was. So when I was young, I took like disco dance lessons in, like, elementary school and junior high, so I love dancing. It was different dance music in college, it was more like Madonna. Okay. Yeah. And I loved rock and roll, like acdc, hard rock. It was more like Def Leppard in college because hair bands were starting to be big, so. Yeah. And I, like, I used to go to a new wave dance club when I was 16. It was like an underage dance club. Oh, wow. Okay. So, you know, at that age, it was probably more like Jim Carroll and XTC Generals and Majors, but then in college, it was more Depeche Mode, so. Yeah. Yeah. So that's funny. I think we probably went to college about the same time. And that's where I got turned on to Echo and the Bunnyman, xtc, Depeche Mode, the Smiths, House Martins, all of those. Actually, U2 is. That's when I got turned on to U2. Saw Joshua Tree, which was pretty cool. Anyway, so do you have any particular songs in that. That time frame or just the artists. Oh, wow. So. Because that's cool too, by the way, puts me into a category, right? Like, I am one of those women who, if I hear Def Leppard pour sugar on me, I have to get up and dance. Okay, well, well, so lucky for you if you didn't tell me that that was going to be the song. There's so many, though. I'm. I'm a Def Leppard fan, too. And Rush. And speaking of Rush, you know the. The new drummer, Anika. Annika, is it Neelys or Niels, I think is her name. And she kicks ass. Holy shit. Is she good? Anyway. Well, you have to be to be in Rush. I mean. Yeah, she's so good. I mean, just so freaking good. Okay, so what song that gets the positive juices flowing? Or one that makes you want to go out and crush your day? Oh, gosh. So this was hard because it's kind of different day by day, but I can relate. Yeah. I love Gimme that wink by Neil McCoy. And it's a twangy country song. Yeah. And I love Triumph. Magic power. That's a good one, too. Yeah. I think Triumph is highly underrated. They're an amazing band. Yeah. And the fact that you mentioned Neil McCoy, very few people know who he is, and I think he's quite good. By the way, I'm a fan of his. It goes back to my. I used to see him in concert a few years ago, and I wanted to learn more of his music. Right. Because I knew his few big hits. Yeah. And he was so funny. He's like. He spaced them out. And he literally said when somebody shouted out the name of one, this is Where Forever Begins was his big one. I don't know if I know the one. I bet you do. I bet you do. This is where forever begin. Yeah, it's. You have a gorgeous voice. Oh, thanks. He's really good. He's super, super good. So that's change. That's. That's cool. You're. You're like, quite honestly, the only other person that I've ever met that knows who Neil McCoy is. And this is no slight on Neil McCoy. I think he's incredibly talented. I just think, unfortunately, at the time where he was coming in, there were so many. I mean, that's when Alan Jackson was really hitting his stride and Joe Diffie and all those guys came in in the country scene. Garth, for that matter. Travis Tritt, Marty Stewart, all those guys. And it was like hit after hit after hit. So you start getting buried, you know? But he was so good. Or he is so good. I shouldn't say that. Do you have a guilty pleasure song right now or one that you say? I don't want anybody to hear that. So you're gonna laugh. It's more about the artist than the song. But while we're talking country music, Billy Ray Cyrus. And the song is real gone, which is an amazing song. And the video has all these cars at the drag strip. It's super cool, and it's a rock and roll song. But when you say Billy Ray Cyrus to people, they kind of roll their eyes and go icky breaky, break your heart. Well, you know what? He. He's another one that was pretty darn talented as a songwriter, believe it or not. And that didn't get wasted on his daughter either. She's a. She's a hell of a songwriter. You know, she kind of gets crapped on for her antics, but she's an authentic. You know, this is who I am. Hit the road if you don't like it. So I appreciate that. What about this one? What's a song you believe could positively change the way people think or feel about the world around them if they just listen to the lyrics. Tim McGraw live like you were dying. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, it's a really good check in. Even without listening to the song. Right. If I were gonna die in a month, what would I do right now? What would I not bother doing? Yeah. You know, that's a home run right there, in my opinion. I love that one. Now, see, this is my favorite question that I asked. This next one is the favorite question of mine that I get to ask my guests. And oftentimes they'll be like, oh, Jim, that made me. You really thinking. And I broke down and. And. And that's not necessarily the intention behind it, but that's. I hear that a lot. Sometimes a. A song rings so true it stops you in your tracks. And the lyrics sound like they were either written specifically for you or by you. What's that song? Clint Black. No Time. There's no time to kill. Between the cradle and the grave. One of the. The first line that really hooked me was, the grass is green on both sides of the hill. Ooh. I was like. And I just got a wave of goosebumps. I was like, oh, it's not really about changing my circumstances. Huh. Wow, that's something. That's a well done, well done. Thank you. I appreciate that so much. That's good. I'll ask you one more and then we'll wrap it up. Do you happen to have an all time favorite song you can share with me? So different from all of this. Okay, well, I have two all time favorite songs. I can't choose just one. It's like choosing a favorite song. I was gonna say give them both. Heaven and Hell by Black Sabbath from the Ronnie James Dio era, because I'm more of a Dio fan. Holy Diver. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And Bruce Springsteen. Thunder Road. Oh, my goodness. Okay, so no one has done either one. Well, no Time to Kill was never mentioned ever before. Heaven and hell never mentioned. And Thunder Road never mentioned. Wow, that's. That's. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. Drop the mic. Drop the mic and drop the needle right there. There you go. Love it. In case, you know, people didn't think we're all unique, you just proved everyone wrong. Well, it's just about time for me to cue the music for today's episode. And around here, that's my favorite part of the job. I'm Jim Alstott. And before we drop the needle, two quick things first, Sue Elliot, thank you for being here today. And could you let our listeners know the best way to get in touch with you? Sure. Come to the website. It's myangelcoach.com and we actually have a gift for you. We have an 8 minute audio called soothing Energy from the Angels and it's@myangelcoach.com soothing. So come if you like this, you know, get the audio, listen to it before an important meeting or before you have to go deal with your in laws or, or when you just need a little tune up or pick me up. It's. It's very soothing and gentle and, and a great reset. Well, I'm going to say thank you for everyone with that and that's perfect. And you're going to find all of that plus a link link to today's playlist right in the show notes. Second, if this episode found you at the right moment, the best thank you. Is really simple, like comment and subscribe so you never miss. What's next. All right, my drop the needle posse. Like Billy Joel, we've gone from the highs to the lows. And that brings us to the end of the show. Until next time. Time. This is Jim Alstatt wishing you infinite health, infinite happiness, and the perfect playlist for your life. Thank you again for being the best part of us. Catch you next time.