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Episode 21: 1980's Music: Big Hair, Big Hits, and even Bigger Riffs · Bearded And Crunchy

0:01
SPEAKER_01: The hair was bigger, the guitars were louder, the synthesizers were everywhere.
0:07
SPEAKER_01: But the eighties weren't just the decade of MTV and one hit wonders.
0:12
SPEAKER_01: No.
0:13
SPEAKER_03: This was the decade where music changed how we heard it, how we saw it, and especially how we remembered it.
0:22
SPEAKER_03: MTV turned musicians into visual stars.
0:25
SPEAKER_03: Synthesis transformed pop and rock.
0:28
SPEAKER_03: Hip-hop started changing the musical landscape.
0:31
SPEAKER_03: Heavy metal got heavier, and new waves got weird.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: From Michael Jackson to Madonna, from Prince to Metallica.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: From Duran Duran to Guns N' Roses.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: From the rise of hip hop to the birth of the music video superstar.
0:49
SPEAKER_01: The eighties didn't just have a sound, it had an identity.
1:32
SPEAKER_03: The eighties.
1:33
SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
1:34
SPEAKER_03: Man, the eighties music, huh?
1:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:38
SPEAKER_03: Talk about a shift in in culture.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: Man, big time.
1:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was uh a lot started really happening.
1:44
SPEAKER_03: I know we discussed the 60s and 70s, but that the eighties really, really started expanding the way people were making music.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh audibly and visually.
1:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, big time.
1:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, so let's get to it, man.
2:04
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna get right into it today, baby.
2:05
SPEAKER_03: What's the question, baby?
2:06
SPEAKER_03: Let's do this.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: Your question.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: What made 80s music better than the 70s?
2:13
SPEAKER_01: Or was it?
2:16
SPEAKER_03: Um boy.
2:17
SPEAKER_03: Better's a tough word.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:20
SPEAKER_03: Um I I I I don't want to say better, more accessible, it was um, more variety.
2:28
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
2:28
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I think in many cases, variety does mean better.
2:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, I I will say the quality of the music got better, the recording equipment made it sound better.
2:41
SPEAKER_03: So on paper, I would say yes.
2:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:45
SPEAKER_03: Um, but we all know music isn't on paper.
2:48
SPEAKER_03: True.
2:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, these are feelings we get, these are feelings they get when they record it.
2:53
SPEAKER_03: So in my mind, I would say yes, but not for the reasons anybody else would.
2:58
SPEAKER_03: Um I just think, you know, again, um so many genres uh birthed sub-genres, and and yeah, we started getting you know new ways for people to to to make the music that they wanted, so it was a lot more diverse.
3:21
SPEAKER_03: But what about you?
3:21
SPEAKER_03: What is what are your thoughts?
3:23
SPEAKER_03: Do you feel like the 80s was quote unquote better?
3:28
SPEAKER_01: It it's uh it's kind of tough for me actually because I do love the 70s, I love 70s music.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: I was exposed to it a lot more when I was a kid uh compared to 80s, even though I was alive in the 80s and experienced part of that in the later part.
3:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have to agree with you on the fact that yes, technologically speaking, things took a dramatic step forward, although still recording analog-wise on you know actual real real tape, I I really think electronic stuff, uh, instrument-wise, microphones came a long way, things started to evolve better, synthesizers obviously, big time uh jumping making different sounds and weird shit going on.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna actually have to disagree with you on that though.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: I I I still think that I love the 70s better.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: As much as I love the 80s, because I do love me some 80s music, but I do think I like the 70s better.
4:27
SPEAKER_03: And that's and that's the beauty of of music, is it's it's subjective.
4:33
SPEAKER_03: And and again, um I I think we like the types of music that we like because of how and when and why it enters our life.
4:45
SPEAKER_03: I think we have that attachment.
4:46
SPEAKER_03: We have memories attached to it, we have feelings attached to it, we have time periods attached to it.
4:53
SPEAKER_03: So I think that's why we, you know, go that way.
4:55
SPEAKER_03: And if, you know, because I I I will say this if you take hip hop out of the equation, right?
5:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm right there with you.
5:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the golden age, and we'll get to that of hip-hop was the eighties.
5:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh and you know, obviously I've basically made that my personality over the years.
5:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
5:15
SPEAKER_03: It's saved me from a lot of things.
5:18
SPEAKER_03: Um so um, yeah, I think, you know, there's no wrong answer with that question.
5:25
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:26
SPEAKER_03: Um, it's just a matter of perspective, opinion, and and and what you have attached to that.
5:30
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, we we we love doing this.
5:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh, and and I I think we both realized this week uh how much of a task it was gonna be once we got into these decades.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: Yes, this is a lot.
5:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, we're gonna do our best to keep it as sh, and I don't mean short as a short episode, but guys, I mean we could have done this in the 80s in part.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: Three hours, four hours, eight hours, yeah.
5:56
SPEAKER_03: But um so I guess we'll I mean going right along, um why don't you hop into the brief history and and and kind of give them a little to-do of of kind of what the as as as simplified as you can make a synopsis of what 80s music was.
6:18
SPEAKER_01: I I think I did an okay job in it.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: I I I did write it down because I'm not gonna remember all of that because I'm a man of a certain age now, and that's just not possible.
6:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're not actors, we don't memorize.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: No, hell no.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: No, I I write that shit down and then I read it.
6:33
SPEAKER_03: I I mean, even if I write it down, I'll probably still forget it.
6:35
SPEAKER_03: So what the fuck.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: But so when we start talking about the eighties, you know, it it started with a sound that developed in the actual late 70s.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, you gotta think disco funk, even early new wave and the growing use of electronic instruments.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: And we would be remiss in uh not saying and mentioning this, but one of the biggest game changers in the 80s was fucking MTV, bro.
7:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: It you gotta remember it launched in 1981, and the music video became almost as important as the song itself.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: They literally were making a mini movie that helped tell the story of the song visually.
7:22
SPEAKER_03: Well, think about the first video that went popular, what the name of it was.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: Video killed the radio star.
7:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean, let's think about that.
7:29
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it kind of did.
7:31
SPEAKER_03: It did.
7:31
SPEAKER_03: And and you know what though, but that's we're visual creatures.
7:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, before we could speak, you know, there was Neanderthals that didn't speak, they just made noises.
7:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, visuals was what we had.
7:41
SPEAKER_03: So it it makes sense that it would have got that way.
7:44
SPEAKER_03: I could see why certain people wouldn't want it to go that way, but I mean we were destined to go that way.
7:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, I mean, it it was gonna happen.
7:52
SPEAKER_03: And um, yeah, I mean we discussed this, you know, should we bring up MTV?
7:58
SPEAKER_03: And we both immediately said, How can we not?
8:01
SPEAKER_03: You have to.
8:01
SPEAKER_03: Um, you have to if you think about it, it's it's kind of ironic the 180 it's taken because now it's a reality show.
8:07
SPEAKER_03: And it's all garbage now.
8:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
8:10
SPEAKER_03: But I have yeah, I mean, that's you know, synth, you know, there was synths, and and and like you said, New Wave was starting in the 70s.
8:17
SPEAKER_03: There was there were some rock bands that were getting progressive and experimental with it, but the 80s was when it really just you know, they lit the fuse in the 70s and in the nine and the eighties go boom.
8:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: And you know, we can continue a little further on here, and you gotta remember too, the 80s, you know, pop music really exploded with Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: They all became humongous stars in the 80s, right?
8:44
SPEAKER_01: And rock went in several directions with arena rock, hair metal, and my favorite in the early 80s, the birth of thrash metal, which was a mix of like new wave of British heavy metal and punk rock.
8:56
SPEAKER_03: Right.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: They fused it, it became a thing of beauty.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: It makes me happy.
9:00
SPEAKER_03: Well, and you know, like I alluded to earlier, and this this was the golden age of hip hop, like hip hop towards the late uh, and I'm gonna bring it up, towards the late 80s, um, you know, it it really started to evolve with with artists like you know uh NWA and Rockim, and and it really started to change, but we'll get into that.
9:19
SPEAKER_03: Um we obviously got to go with the most obvious one to start with, and that's Michael Jackson, guys.
9:25
SPEAKER_03: For you young people, you you can appreciate his music, but you guys didn't witness what he was to the world.
9:33
SPEAKER_03: Like you guys have seen and heard the stuff about the Beatles, but look up what Michael Jackson did.
9:41
SPEAKER_03: Like the the the the effect that he had on people and and how talented um he was um really set off um a trajectory for him that just I mean, I don't think we'll ever see anything like it again.
9:59
SPEAKER_03: We won't be as big as Willow Swift is it's still not Michael, it's not Michael, and and you know, like I said, guys, you had to be there to witness it.
10:07
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, you had alluded to as we were talking, it it really started with off the wall in the 70s.
10:13
SPEAKER_03: 79 Um he he had some bangers on there, uh can't stop till you get enough, want to be starting something.
10:18
SPEAKER_03: These are all great hits.
10:20
SPEAKER_03: Um, but it wasn't uh until 1982 when he dropped the thriller, man.
10:27
SPEAKER_03: And guys, this album literally changed the world.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: More than 67 million sold a date, and they're still not exactly 100% sure how many.
10:38
SPEAKER_03: I've heard everything from 67 to 72.
10:41
SPEAKER_03: To a hundred.
10:42
SPEAKER_03: And the next closest is like 20 to 25 million records away.
10:47
SPEAKER_03: I don't think we will ever ever um We won't.
10:50
SPEAKER_03: Uh actually it might be closer to 15 to 20 now that I'm remembering.
10:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but anyways, um, yeah, guys, it's it's it's the amount of records that it sold.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: And literally uh 30 to 40 of these was before streaming.
11:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh, so like you actually had to go to a record store and buy a physical discount.
11:07
SPEAKER_03: That was over triple diamond before downloading services even existed.
11:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
11:13
SPEAKER_03: Um and and obviously, like you go back and you look at thriller, and they're like it's it you literally could have made a greatest hits album off of just that album.
11:26
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, you had obviously your Billy Jeans, your um The Thriller, um, but beat it.
11:34
SPEAKER_03: Beat it.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: But one of my, you know, and we kind of alluded, you had brought it up about how I'm not a fan of the Beatles, but right one of my absolute favorite Michael Jackson song has Paul McCartney on it, and it is the girl is mine.
11:48
SPEAKER_03: I actually listened to it on the way to breakfast with Ty and let him hear it.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: Um what's really funny is I was listening to it on the way over here to Did a record.
11:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I I just there's something about that, you know.
12:00
SPEAKER_03: Guys, I Michael just had away with with music and and and dance, and that that's why he was the king of pop.
12:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then you know, going on, um, he ended up at the time crushing a Grammy record at the 84 Grammys, winning eight Grammys.
12:20
SPEAKER_03: Holy crap.
12:21
SPEAKER_03: Um destroyed it.
12:23
SPEAKER_03: Um and then if you want to uh talk about because I I know we both had the same, but um the Motown 25 concert.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people don't realize that's when he first did the moonwalk to Billy Jean.
12:36
SPEAKER_03: People always think it was uh Moonwalker and all of that stuff, but no.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: I I do want to go into something real quick.
12:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go ahead.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: We kind of discussed it through text last night.
12:46
SPEAKER_01: And again, we would be we would be remiss in not mentioning this guy.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: But obviously, most people know in the song Beat It.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: Eddie Van Halen did the guitar solo.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he did.
12:59
SPEAKER_03: But a little lesser known fact, unless you really dive into it, a guy by the name of Steve Lucather did guitar and bass on the question without Googling.
13:13
SPEAKER_01: Right, I'll give you a second.
13:15
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, he started career as a session musician.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: He's done we don't even have enough time to go through his list of shit that he's done.
13:25
SPEAKER_03: He's a journeyman to be sure.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: But one of the things that really made him huge, and I'm a big fan of the band, and I can't believe we're not talking about them from the 80s too, because they were 70s, 80s, but yeah, guitar player and you know, singer in Toto.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of people will not know that.
13:42
SPEAKER_03: I I think but I think that band in and of itself is like that.
13:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, there's bands that you know the band, but you don't know, like we have bands we know like Metallica, we know Kurt, we know um James, we know their names, but there's those bands that we know the band, but we just don't, you know, and I think that was one of those, even though you know, looking, we know that like you know, because a lot of people don't know, but Michael Jackson was a huge fan of guitar, like he loved it.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, it was I think that's what separated him from Prince was that Prince was so multifaceted with all the instruments that Duk played.
14:17
SPEAKER_03: He played them, he could play everything, and and and that was the thing.
14:20
SPEAKER_03: Michael could dance and sing, right?
14:23
SPEAKER_03: And and that's I think to me personally, that was their only difference.
14:27
SPEAKER_03: Yes, because they were both equally like on a magnitude higher, like people don't even realize the songs that were written by Prince.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: The I mean it it's it's right, it's insane.
14:41
SPEAKER_03: Um and and guys, like I mean, you you don't see it nowadays, but like when Michael Jackson would drop a single or or or allude to a new album, the world would stop.
14:53
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it it was just insane.
14:55
SPEAKER_03: I mean, and um, and and I wanted to bring this up because I think it was huge.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: And I I I I don't know if if you did, but there was something big that happened in the 80s that he constructed, but it in 1985 they did We Are the World.
15:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
15:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, because there was the starving kids in Africa, and there was a lot of there was a lot of shit going on in the 80s.
15:15
SPEAKER_03: We were in the Cold War, uh, there was the war on drugs in America, you know, crack cocaine, it really, really hit.
15:21
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there was a lot going on in the 80s, and he got together, and him and Lionel Ritchie got the absolute biggest stars.
15:30
SPEAKER_03: And when I and I don't mean like seven or eight, there was like 30 to 35 people, all different genres.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: Bruce Springsteen, Cindy Lauper, Lionel Ritchie, Michael Jackson.
15:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, guys, the list Huey Lewis, I mean, the list goes on and on.
15:45
SPEAKER_03: Um, I I will put uh a picture of it up, but if you guys go listen to the song, is I got goosebumps.
15:51
SPEAKER_03: When you listen to the song, it's amazing.
15:52
SPEAKER_03: They they they they poured their hearts into it, and and you could tell all the people were into it, and and but it was a big moment in music orchestrated orchestrated by him and Lionel Ritchie.
16:03
SPEAKER_03: So I I felt like that was something that we two Motown legends, too.
16:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
16:08
SPEAKER_03: And then we can we can go into the he didn't miss a beat after Thriller.
16:13
SPEAKER_03: What was his next album?
16:14
SPEAKER_01: How many millions of copies, Eric?
16:16
SPEAKER_03: Uh that I I know it's over 20.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: 45 million.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: So he literally had back-to-back bangers.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: So much for the soft so much for the sophomore jinx.
16:27
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, that wasn't really a sophomore album, but you know what I mean.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: Technically, that was what his third solo album was.
16:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it was off the wall, thriller thriller, and then and then even one of my favorite albums came out next, but it came out in 1990.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, we can talk about that next week next week.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, but guys, we had to give him his own section his own section because the 80s were his.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: Which is wild when you think about it, because still so many other genres and artists were big, and that's where music became.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: It exploded where it wasn't this band, this band, this band running it, and then there was a bunch of other good bands that were just there.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: Everybody seemed to have their 15 minutes.
17:06
SPEAKER_03: Um, I another thing that it literally just popped in my head, but I think we had the biggest, even to date and before, surgence of one-hit wonders.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
17:16
SPEAKER_03: The 80s were hubes for that.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: So, but um, you know, obviously we could have gone into an episode just where we talked about him and Prince going back and forth to what they did for music and their battle for for the supremehood of music, but he started in the 70s, Prince did, whereas Michael Jackson did, but it was the very end, and he was in Jackson 5 before that.
17:40
SPEAKER_03: So we had to give Michael Michael Jackson his due.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: And if you really, you know, for me, well, I don't know how it is for you.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: For me, when I think 80s, like big 80s pop songs and and pop acts, I really do think MJ Prince and you gotta throw Madonna in there.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: I listen, I I never, you know, I know her songs because I was a kid and heard them played.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
18:03
SPEAKER_03: Uh wasn't a fan, but again, it goes to I understand what the impact was.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
18:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, she she broke the mold as far as provocativeness.
18:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, she did a lot of things that that up to that point were taboo.
18:16
SPEAKER_03: Taboo, a hundred percent.
18:18
SPEAKER_03: And she just wanted to be herself.
18:19
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I I always applaud people who you know aren't afraid to make people a little uncomfortable, right?
18:27
SPEAKER_03: Just to get out of your your your your your pocket, your your world uh a little bit.
18:32
SPEAKER_03: Madonna was definitely doing that.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, I mean MJ, I mean, yeah, I mean you there's I I I I can tell you this if you listen to a podcast or an interview where somebody's talking the 80s and they don't bring up Michael Jackson, they're an idiot.
18:48
SPEAKER_03: Turn it off.
18:48
SPEAKER_03: You're not getting real facts because he owned the 80s.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, you gotta figure, you know, he was one of the biggest stars of that decade, and he really helped define what 80s pop culture looked and sounded like too.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: And without him, I don't think it would have been what it was.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: It could it it it it could have been grand, but it it would have never reached that level.
19:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we we talk about the the and we'll we'll get into it, but the um the the huge rock stadium tours, but I mean fuck he was doing that right as a pop star and in every country he went to.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, like guys, you can look up before you've seen you know people going crazy over Taylor Swift and and all these others in other countries and stuff like that.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: Michael Jackson was making Japanese girls out in the 80s, like it just he had that effect uh on people, and you know, his music was powerful, and he he he wasn't afraid to talk about subjects that that were, you know, you got man in the mirror.
19:50
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: Um bad.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
19:53
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm I was trying to think there was another one that was pretty big and I off of what I can't remember now.
20:00
SPEAKER_03: I should have written it down.
20:01
SPEAKER_03: But he he had a lot of songs that that were, you know, we are the like we are the world and man in the mirror.
20:06
SPEAKER_03: Like he was introspective and he was you know, he made you think and and stuff like that.
20:11
SPEAKER_03: And and you know, I you know, I I sent Bob the exact this exact message last night, but I said I celebrate that man's whole catalogue.
20:19
SPEAKER_03: Um I I I love Michael, I will always love Michael.
20:23
SPEAKER_03: Um and you know, his music, you know, as it did hip hop, helped me in a lot of ways.
20:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: Um I I remember watching Thriller, the the music video, as many times as I get my hands on.
20:37
SPEAKER_03: You gotta mention Sir Vincent Price.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: Oh, legend.
20:40
SPEAKER_03: Um horror legend.
20:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, one of the greatest to ever do it.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: And fun fact, do you know the one of the like godfathers and greatest um makeup and special effects artist, Rick Baker, who has done really every like you could pick a movie and he's done the the makeup and stuff for it, but he he did thriller?
21:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, no shit.
21:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you guys get a chance, look up Rick Baker and look at his fucking list of accomplishments, it'll blow your fucking mind.
21:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the dude's insane.
21:13
SPEAKER_03: But uh, yeah, man, we we we had to give give Michael his own his own section, man.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the guy was I mean, you couldn't I mean every every boy wanted the the the the one glove and we we all tried moonwalking and we all tried grabbing our crutches yes and we all practiced the thriller dance, tried to do it.
21:35
SPEAKER_03: Um actually in Wadsworth, if you ever get a chance, they do a Halloween parade every year where they have zombies that dance that dance thriller and walk up the street.
21:45
SPEAKER_03: It's actually really cool.
21:46
SPEAKER_03: It's always on my playlist every year.
21:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, it's gotta be, man.
21:50
SPEAKER_03: It's one of the greatest Halloween songs ever.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Between that and uh I always feel like somebody's watching me.
21:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh I actually put that down because that wasn't a Michael Jackson song.
21:59
SPEAKER_03: Right.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: But he was on it.
22:01
SPEAKER_03: I let Ty listen to that this morning as well.
22:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: And he said he he re he remembered it.
22:06
SPEAKER_03: He goes, I like this song, Pops, but it's kind of creepy.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: I said, I thought the same thing when I was a kid too.
22:11
SPEAKER_03: I said, but now that I'm older, I'm like, and fun fact, you know who Rockwell was?
22:16
SPEAKER_01: He was related to somebody at Michael.
22:17
SPEAKER_03: Barry Gordy's son.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: He was Barry Gordy's son.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: So obviously he was going to be able to get Michael Jackson.
22:23
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
22:23
SPEAKER_03: Because Michael Jackson didn't do features.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: Not that time.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: So the fact that he was on it and man, he makes that song.
22:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
22:32
SPEAKER_03: I always feel oh, it's so good.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I guess on that, we could probably move on a little bit.
22:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, where are we going next, man?
22:42
SPEAKER_03: Because this is gonna be a hell of a roller coaster.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: This is gonna be an interesting part of it.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think we're gonna go to New Wave and SynthPod.
22:48
SPEAKER_03: I think that's a good place to go.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: And you know, a lot of people get them very confused, uh, unfortunately.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I have a little bit of uh notage here to help people get through the confusion.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: So if you look at New Wave, it was the the broader broader movement, often influenced by punk, art rock, and experimental music.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Synthpop put electronic instruments much more prominently at the center.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: More keyboards.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: So if you look at it at look at it this way, right?
23:27
SPEAKER_01: New wave was the attitude, synthpop was the the synthesizer.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: So and you know, there were quite a few bands that that did kind of cross over, and there goes the air show down.
23:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, don't ignore that, guys.
23:42
SPEAKER_03: There's an air show over.
23:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we did our best, just ignore it.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: It's not as bad as it was with the jet flying over a little bit ago.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Right.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh but some of the bands that did cross over between New Wave and Synth Pop, you know, New Order, Depeche Mode, the Human League.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Aha, Tears for Fears.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: All had big hits.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what a lot of people really think about when they think of 80s outside of, you know, MJ and Prince and Madonna.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: You really think Synthpop and New Wave and, you know, some of those groups and bands are are are now getting into the rock hall.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: I think New Wave just went in.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: Or not New Wave, um New Order just went in.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Enjoy Division.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: They're like they like broke up and did their own thing, but um I don't want to sound like an idiot.
24:26
SPEAKER_03: Duran Duran's in there, I'm telling you, I'm pretty sure.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: I just don't know, but you can't go wrong with Hungry Like the Wolf.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Dude, they were good.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: I I did like me some Duran Duran and you could you think you could throw NXS in there?
24:38
SPEAKER_01: NXS is it is new.
24:40
SPEAKER_03: It was a shame what happened to um the lead singer.
24:43
SPEAKER_03: What's his name?
24:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: But anyway.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: I do not remember.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: But you can go Duran Duran the cars.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: I love the cars.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: Drive, dude, drive.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: Who's gonna drive you home?
24:54
SPEAKER_01: That's a great song.
24:55
SPEAKER_03: That's a good one.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh Talking Heads, Blondie Depeche Mode.
24:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: Dude, Depeche Mode.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: We actually well when I was in the band years ago, we actually covered a depeche mode song called Black Celebration.
25:08
SPEAKER_03: I actually never listened to Depeche Mode.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: Nah.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: Really?
25:13
SPEAKER_03: They never piqued my interest.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: Bro, personal Jesus?
25:15
SPEAKER_03: Man, good songs.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: That one's alright.
25:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, I I don't know.
25:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I always tell people, man, I have a broad variety of music, but there's some things that people don't understand.
25:24
SPEAKER_03: I just didn't like I love Duran Duran, aha, tears for fears, human.
25:28
SPEAKER_03: Flock of seagulls, flock of seagulls, all that shit.
25:31
SPEAKER_03: But for some reason, Depeche Mode just never I will tell you this.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: In doing this, uh, if you would have quizzed me, I would have thought Depeche Mode was 90s.
25:39
unknown: Really?
25:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know why I always thought that, but once I did that, I was like, damn, they were the 80s.
25:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:44
SPEAKER_03: And the cure, don't forget about the cure, but definitely they were they were impactful.
25:48
SPEAKER_03: So many songs have been redone from them.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there was one I was gonna say something about.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh, it's by New Order, it's called Blue Monday, which if you remember, in the either later part of the 90s or 2000s, there was a band called Orgy.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: That redid it.
26:02
SPEAKER_03: They covered it and it was it was a great cover.
26:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: That's I think a lot of people associate that song with them.
26:10
SPEAKER_03: And that's why you forget that it was a cover because they turned it more guitar-oriented.
26:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they still had the synthwave stuff and and everything in it, but they did a little bit more guitar work in it and yeah, and and you know, another thing that with the synths, a lot of things with New Wave was instead of live drums, drum machines were missing now too.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: And and then, you know, that that I'll get into that in a little bit, but they they they were a a heavy part of the hip-hop scene in the 80s too.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, there was a lot of things, you know, uh like really like the melodies were trying to be catchy, yeah, but they really tried to to like you, you know, the the synths, the drum machines, it really, I don't know.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: It was they were there there was, you know, people talk about experiments in the 70s, but the 80s didn't oh man they didn't back off of the experiment.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, it all you ever gotta do is look at New Wave and Synth Pop, bro.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, it'll tell you everything you need to know right there.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: You know what really helped them out though?
27:09
SPEAKER_03: MTV.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it made it accessible, people and they were doing weird shit with their clothes, their hair.
27:15
SPEAKER_03: I mean Oh, look at the aha video.
27:17
SPEAKER_03: That's one of the greatest videos of all time.
27:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was in illustration, like and like people would struggle making a video like that today.
27:25
SPEAKER_03: And they did that shit in the 80s.
27:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like it's fucked.
27:28
SPEAKER_03: They did it old school.
27:29
SPEAKER_03: Could you imagine how much that cost them to make?
27:31
SPEAKER_03: I can't.
27:31
SPEAKER_03: In the 80s, I can't.
27:33
SPEAKER_03: I don't even want to think about it.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, if you guys don't look, I I you know, I I often say that there's there's popular bands that I don't really get into, but if if you don't like take on me by aha, I don't think we can be friends.
27:44
SPEAKER_03: Right.
27:45
SPEAKER_03: I love that song, it's such a good song, it tells a story, and that video is I fucking conic.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: I I hope that people would go back and watch that video.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: For you younger crowds, man, go go watch that shit.
27:56
SPEAKER_03: Because like a lot of times, like you would hear songs on the radio, but it wasn't until you saw the video that you went, oh shit, you know, and then went back and started downloading, or not downloading, listen to me, buying the CUK, I got caught there buying the cassette, the CDs, and physical copies, yeah, getting physical copies and stuff.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: So, what else happened in the 80s, Eric?
28:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, well, uh you know what?
28:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: I mean uh uh I I I'm a lot of you guys.
28:26
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna step in real quick and start this one just because a lot of you guys are gonna go in KOTB, and don't get me wrong, I actually liked them, and they've actually made songs like within the last 15 to 20 years that are good.
28:40
SPEAKER_03: Right.
28:41
SPEAKER_03: Um but guys, the Godfathers of the boy band is new edition.
28:44
SPEAKER_03: New edition, baby.
28:45
SPEAKER_03: You guys can kiss my ass on that.
28:46
SPEAKER_03: That birthday.
28:47
SPEAKER_03: Ralph Tresvent, Bobby Brown, Johnny Gill, and Belle Biv DeVoe, which is Ricky Bivin's uh uh I can't remember that.
28:59
SPEAKER_03: But it was Belle Biv DeVoe, uh, and um it started with it started with five, then it went to six, and then because Bobby Brown was in and out.
29:10
SPEAKER_03: If you guys ever get a chance, go watch.
29:12
SPEAKER_03: They made a series on it, it's a really good series.
29:14
SPEAKER_03: Um, they were like every band, the temptations and that they broke up, came apart, whatever.
29:19
SPEAKER_03: Um, but boy bands really exploded.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: And there was actually, you know, one that that you we didn't bring up, but it was it was a Hispanic Manudo.
29:33
SPEAKER_03: And they they get they get left out.
29:36
SPEAKER_03: And we could even go the DeBarge brothers.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they they they made music.
29:41
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you ever delved into them, but they they were there was Chico and El DeBarge and all these other ones.
29:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Chico Debarge, El DeBarge.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: But Minuto was one that I think kind of gets kind of gets looked over a lot when when when they were big.
29:54
SPEAKER_03: I know they weren't your your new kids on the block and your new addition, but but they were big and and and if if you were I'd say 8, 9, 10 and up in the 80s, you know who Minuto was.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, they also had a ton of revolving members over the years, too.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they really keep them fresh and young.
30:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, somebody would kind of age out and then yeah, that was one thing NKOTB and and and New Edition stayed with with their.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, New Edition would hop in out, like I said, with Bobby and Johnny Gill, but but Ralph and and BBD, they kind of they kind of kept it alive.
30:29
SPEAKER_03: And in fun fact, uh, you know, Boys Demand was was founded by um Bivens from BBD.
30:37
SPEAKER_03: I did not know that.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, they're the one that found Boys to Men.
30:39
SPEAKER_03: I did not know that.
30:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, we we there was no way, regardless if you're a guy, put your fucking ego aside.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: Boy bands were fucking huge in the 80s.
30:48
SPEAKER_03: I mean, shit, you know, when we had our elementary school girlfriends, there's no way that one of our girlfriends did not love new kids on the black.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh you gotta think of it like this, though.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, it the 80s really paved the way and laid the groundwork for what happened in the 90s with boy bands.
31:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean it it gets lost because they became so big, but yeah, but new edition and new kids on the block were big too.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: It's just in the 90s there was more of them.
31:20
SPEAKER_03: They they became the blueprint and the um the um clone.
31:27
SPEAKER_03: Or the people became the clones of them because it worked.
31:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, hell, after that, you had so many boy bands that were manufactured.
31:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:36
SPEAKER_03: Um so but yeah, man, we we we we had to talk about boy bands because they were so big, and and I am a diehard new edition fan.
31:46
SPEAKER_03: So I are yeah, I I I I love it.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: So and then we we gotta touch on 80s soft rock, bro.
31:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we got we got some solo artists, some bands.
31:56
SPEAKER_03: There was some, you know, some really good ballads in the 80s and and whatnot.
32:04
SPEAKER_03: So break break break us into the into the soft rock.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: What do you want to know about it?
32:09
SPEAKER_03: Just just tell us, you know, because it was, you know, up to that point, rock was southern rock, it was it was Pink Floyd Led Zeppelin heavy, or it was, you know, your Crosby, but this this was different.
32:21
SPEAKER_03: Soft these were guys digging into their feelings.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it it was the tale of uh kind of on the tails of like folk songs and singer songwriters and but just with a little bit more rock yes to it, a little bit more, you know, keyboard keyboards and guitars.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: And what made it easier in the in the in the eighties FM radio became huge in the eighties.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously it was starting 60s, 70s, but it was so accessible in the eighties.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: It was like everybody had a Walkman.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: They had a car radio, they had a boom box at home, whatever.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: And it was kind of it was different than regular rock and things like that because it it was smooth, often, you know, romantic and emotional and extremely catchy.
33:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: But definitely, but it it birthed some massive stars that you know some of them did start in the 80s or in the 70s, but Yeah, but they didn't really like some of them cut their teeth in the 70s, but their hits and their and their and their lane didn't hit till the till the eighties.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people are gonna shit on it because they oh my god, you like to who gives a shit?
33:34
SPEAKER_01: No.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Some of my favorites are on uh are are are on this or were in that time.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: You gotta think Phil Collins.
33:42
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: You gotta think Chicago, Chicago, you gotta think Journey, big hits in the 80s with Journey, open arms faithfully, yeah.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: Probably the two biggest songs in the history of music, really.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: Don't stop believing.
33:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's the biggest karaoke song in history.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: So uh Ario Speedwagon, Love Me Some Speedwagon.
34:00
SPEAKER_03: You had you had some solo artists, yeah.
34:02
SPEAKER_03: Peter Sotera, Christopher Cross.
34:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh they they might have been considered more adult contemporary, but yes, we could have broke down 400 genres, so we I figure we'd but yeah, we had, I mean, guys, you know, if you don't know Peter Sotera's basically did the whole soundtrack to the karate kid movie, yeah um just guys, just power ballads, you know.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna get into a little more of that with with a different genre, but there were some power ballads that these groups came out with as well.
34:29
SPEAKER_03: And and yeah, man, you nailed it with with coming across those.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: And and you know, it's funny because I go back like like Richard Marks and like they're the you know, you say what you want.
34:41
SPEAKER_03: Just such just you want to talk about like you know, if you're into the love songs and shit like that, like that's the way to go.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Heart.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, heart, yeah.
34:49
SPEAKER_03: We can't leave them off either.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: Even though they started in the 70s with Barracuda, yeah, but but they're there, but their power ballads hit in the 80s, like and if you guys don't know, we've talked about them, but Heart was an all-female group.
35:02
SPEAKER_03: Yes, uh, and they were phenomenal, still are, uh still are, um, and they were hot back then, man.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: Anyways, uh but yeah, man, you know, the the the the so many, you know, uh artists were taking chances on the love ballads and the and the you know that that subgenre that that that these guys were were going in and I mean shit, even Brian Adams, he had a couple of those you know that could fit in that for sure.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: I would agree with you, and he's had a long ass career, but I that's one that I think would surprise people, man.
35:39
SPEAKER_03: That's another guy I celebrate his whole catalog.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: I love that guy, man.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: Brian Adams is very underrated, not the most technical guitarist, but but a hell of a uh a performer.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: And what I liked, I think, about him was in his videos and when he performs, you could see the emotion and like he really loved what he was singing and playing and and stuff like that.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: So I agree.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: And he had a string of hits in the 80s, and then really it wasn't until Robin Hood in the early 90s came out.
36:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, when um what's yeah, I know it's gonna, it's like right there.
36:12
SPEAKER_03: Escaping me.
36:13
SPEAKER_03: I would do anything for love.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
36:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh all right.
36:17
SPEAKER_01: No, that was Meatloaf.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Meatloaf's another one.
36:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but that's a he he was a 70s guy that had some hits in the 80s.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:24
SPEAKER_03: I didn't even think about it.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Bat Out of Hell?
36:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, fucking great.
36:27
SPEAKER_03: I I remember seeing that album cover in my dad's collection.
36:30
SPEAKER_03: That was a cool cover, man.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: What was the song that he did?
36:32
SPEAKER_03: Uh I can't think.
36:33
SPEAKER_03: But anyways, but yeah, but I mean he had hits in the uh uh Cuts Like a Knife, uh Heaven.
36:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Heaven's a good one.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: Uh Summer of 69, which a lot of people think has to do with the year.
36:45
SPEAKER_03: It does not.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'll let your dirty minds go where you want, but that's what the song was about.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, yes, we do our homework and we know shit.
36:54
SPEAKER_03: Um I I I think now would be a good time to probably go into hair metal.
36:58
SPEAKER_03: I know the name of the song now.
37:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, what is it?
37:00
SPEAKER_03: Everything I do.
37:01
SPEAKER_03: Do it for you.
37:03
SPEAKER_03: Everything yes.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: I had it, it was like right there while you're talking.
37:06
SPEAKER_03: But it it it you could see why I said the other one.
37:09
SPEAKER_03: They kind of sounded similar.
37:11
SPEAKER_01: That's what happens when you get old.
37:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I can't.
37:13
SPEAKER_03: That's why we had to write this shit down.
37:14
SPEAKER_03: And then we get to a point we get old and crotchy and I'm tired of writing this shit down.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm just screenshotting my notes fucking.
37:20
SPEAKER_03: But uh, yeah, I mean, we we did we went into that, we we named some artists.
37:25
SPEAKER_03: I think we could hit the hair metal because the last two we definitely want to get to our favorite genre of the decade.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: So what made hair metal hair metal?
37:35
SPEAKER_03: Uh you know, so um hold on.
37:41
SPEAKER_03: Uh a lot of people think it was just the hair, but it was more than that.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: It was androgynous, they were makeup, they were eyeliner, um spandex, spandex, fish nets.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: Um it the 80s was a weird made man in the eddies.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: That's why we just get away with it.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and and it was, you know, it it kind of mixed like hard rock with big solos and catchy hooks.
38:05
SPEAKER_03: But but ballads.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
38:08
SPEAKER_03: And and this is where the real power ballads come in.
38:11
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, I think I said this on a previous episode, but you remember in the 90s and 2000s, you'd go to sleep and at four o'clock in the morning there'd be those infomercials about 80s power ballads.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: And it would have the list of all the different songs, and you would have, you know, your motley crews, your poisons, yep.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: I think I got some names for you.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: You just alluded to Motley Crue.
38:37
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about Dr.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: Feel Good, Kickstart My Heart.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: A couple good songs.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: Bon Jovi Living on a Prayer.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh Blaze of Glory.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: Blaze of Glory.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: That was that was that 80s or I actually think that was 91 because it was a movie from a soundtrack.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: You give it of a bad name.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a good one.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: Poison.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
38:57
SPEAKER_03: Every ruse has its thumb word.
38:59
SPEAKER_03: That's a that's a that that'll be on that'll get played in every bar.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: Forever.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: Every bar I've worked at or went to, that song gets played at some point in the night.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: And then you gotta start thinking, uh, well, you mentioned Def Leopard.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: What about Cinderella?
39:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that they get there's a couple that I think people forget about when they say that.
39:17
SPEAKER_03: Cinderella is the only one.
39:18
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: Round and round.
39:21
SPEAKER_03: And and I think another one that a lot of people forget is Skid Row.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: Skid Row.
39:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh they they had a they had a couple of hits in the 80s and in and man hair metal was the thing.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give you one.
39:33
SPEAKER_03: All right.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Not to cut you off.
39:34
SPEAKER_03: No, no, absolutely not.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give you one and you're not gonna really think because it's I know that the lead singer passed away a couple years ago.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: Warrant.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
39:43
SPEAKER_03: She's my cherry pie.
39:44
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
39:45
SPEAKER_03: Dude, as a as a as a as a 10-year-old boy didn't know what that song was about.
39:50
SPEAKER_03: No, but that video made me.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: Whoo, buddy.
39:54
SPEAKER_03: Uh they couldn't make that.
39:55
SPEAKER_03: Well, no, I can't say that.
39:56
SPEAKER_03: Some of these videos nowadays.
39:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
39:57
SPEAKER_03: But um, but yeah, man, I Warrant gets gets forgotten.
40:02
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
40:02
SPEAKER_03: Twisted Sister.
40:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, twisted sister.
40:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm a big D Snyder guy, so definitely love uh love the cameo in uh Cobra Cai.
40:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, that was so good.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: It got Miguel tapping his foot again, right?
40:14
SPEAKER_01: Um one of these days we'll do a deep dive on Cobra Cag.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll get there.
40:20
SPEAKER_03: We did it for music, we will do it for everything else.
40:22
SPEAKER_03: Fuck it.
40:23
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I mean, you the again, everything we mentioned is is we tried to narrow it down to things we knew we couldn't leave out.
40:32
SPEAKER_03: And you can't leave out hair metal.
40:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, and you know, plus these guys were like the 80s were also the more outgoing substance abusers, so to speak.
40:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, big alcoholics, big time drugs, abusers, heroin.
40:50
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, like these dudes, you know, there's a joke.
40:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, I know you know who Nick Schwertson is.
40:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh he's been in all Adam Sandler movies.
40:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
40:59
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay, okay.
41:00
SPEAKER_03: Did you ever see okay?
41:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh he makes a joke in one of his stand-ups.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: He goes, You guys ever see that behind the music of like poison or Motley Crue?
41:07
SPEAKER_03: It's like Nikki Six almost died after taking heroin from a fire hose.
41:12
SPEAKER_03: Like right.
41:12
SPEAKER_03: Those were the types of shit that was going on.
41:14
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, these guys always I mean, and you could go watch them live and they wouldn't miss a beat.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: It it's amazing more of them didn't die for that.
41:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude.
41:22
SPEAKER_03: The fact that most of them are I mean, some of them succumbed to the way of life, but the majority of them have stayed alive.
41:29
SPEAKER_03: But if you go and look at Vince Neal, he looks like his shit's caught up to his ass.
41:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: Um they all do.
41:35
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, um, you know, uh they they made party anthems.
41:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like power ballads and party anthems, and and it and it got, you know, it it was it was what you call stadium rock.
41:49
SPEAKER_03: They got really like, you know, and these guys were you know going out like before that you would you would see places in amphitheaters and and in and small venues, and then the late 70s and then the 80s really exploded into the fucking arena stadiums.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, I didn't get to go to a lot of them as a kid, but my dad would tell me mad stories of seeing the Rolling Stones and Journey and Pink Floyd and and and Led Zeppelin.
42:14
SPEAKER_03: Like he told me a time when he went and seen uh, and you're gonna love this.
42:19
SPEAKER_03: Uh he took my brothers um uh to see Black Sabbath.
42:25
SPEAKER_03: And guess who opened for him?
42:26
SPEAKER_03: Who Metallica?
42:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was that '85 tour and Master of Party.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh he took my brothers uh to see them.
42:33
SPEAKER_03: I don't know that.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: Why would I know that?
42:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, because of Metallica.
42:35
SPEAKER_03: Because you're a Metallica fan dumb shit.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: Uh and we both love Black Sabbath.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: I mean, how would we not?
42:42
SPEAKER_03: But the fact that you knew that is crazy because but yeah, he took them to to to to see that.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh which uh excuse me.
42:52
SPEAKER_03: Um where uh you know what what do we what do you what do you think we should we should delve into next?
42:59
SPEAKER_01: I think that's gonna segue into uh some heavy metal.
43:02
SPEAKER_03: Alright, alright.
43:03
SPEAKER_03: And because that changed a lot too.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: That changed a lot too.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: In in the beginning of the 80s, tail end of the 70s, you did have you know big names that were starting to find their footing, and we like to say new wave of British heavy metal, which was like Iron Maiden Priest, well Judas Priest.
43:23
SPEAKER_01: Ozzy, because at that point he was already out of the house.
43:27
SPEAKER_01: And then Dio.
43:29
SPEAKER_03: Ronnie James Dio.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: And there was more.
43:31
SPEAKER_03: There there was a few.
43:33
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm trying to think.
43:35
SPEAKER_03: I I had I thought I had more of that of the of the metal, but I think I um Yeah, yeah, but you mentioned all the we we forgot Motorhead, A C D C Even though those were kinda out in the seventies, but A C D C's hits were in the eighties though.
43:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but Unfortunately when when Brian Johnson, you know, after the original lead singer died, but
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Bon Scott after he aspirated on his own vomit after a night of drinking in his car.
44:04
SPEAKER_03: Boy, you're starting to notice a pattern in real life.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: But see, for me, I like some of that early 80s metal stuff.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm not the biggest priest and maiden fans.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I never listened to them.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: But unfortunately for me, it's it's the operatic style of metal singing that I don't care for.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: And you know, I think you had that going on, you had hair metal, glam metal going on, and you had a bunch of guys that said, we've had enough of this kind of shit.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: We want it to be raw in your face, we want to wear jeans and t-shirts, and we just want to kick your ass with our music, and that birth thrash metal and the big four, which are Metallica Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax.
44:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a big fan of Anthrax, never have been.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: That's where Dave Mustaine started, right?
44:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh Megadeth.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, he started in Metallica and then kicked him out for being alcoholic.
45:00
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
45:01
SPEAKER_03: But didn't he actually play with Anthrax at 1.2?
45:04
SPEAKER_03: No.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: Who am I thinking of that was in Anthrax that I'm missing?
45:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know because that's uh I don't know.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: But anyways, yeah, the big four were birthed in the uh in the early part of the 80s, 80, 82, 83, 81, somewhere in there.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: And you know, uh Metallica Slayer, Megadeth were all California-based, anthrax, New York-based.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh kind of really defined and and rewrote that kind of that genre, that that part of it.
45:32
SPEAKER_01: That's what I've flocked to and and still enjoy to this day.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: And I think it really did kind of evolve heavy metal through the eighties into you know, because with Metallica, it started with Kill Em All.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: It was real raw, real, you know, thrashy, speedy, punky.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: And then you get towards the end of the the eighties with Puppets and you know, Justice.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: And Justice for all.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: And they're totally different albums compared to the beginning.
46:00
SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's more progressive, it's more harder rock, it's you know still heavy metal, but I I can remember a time when I was in my twenties when when an artist would come out with something and it would sound different than a last album.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: Like, well, man, like that's weird.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: But now that I'm older, I realize if you want to hear that sound from them, go back and listen to those albums.
46:21
SPEAKER_03: They have to evolve.
46:22
SPEAKER_03: As we've said before, you know, and and and you're not gonna like every evolution.
46:25
SPEAKER_03: Like I mean, I you know, as a fan, I I've said this multiple times.
46:30
SPEAKER_03: I hate early Pink Floyd.
46:32
SPEAKER_03: Right.
46:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, I I just didn't like it.
46:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, but again, they evolved, they changed their style, and a lot of bands do that.
46:39
SPEAKER_03: And they have to, and not only that, guitarists leave, lead singers leave, new ones come in, the sound is gonna change, and that's okay.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:49
SPEAKER_01: And you know, that for me, like I said, it I'm not the biggest fan of Kill Em All.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: I'll listen to Kill Em All if I if it's on, you know, if I have it in the playlist and it's playing.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: I really start my fandom with Ride to Lightning and then Puppets and then Justice, and then we get into the 90s.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: But I I love Ride to Lightning.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: It's got Fade to Black on it.
47:19
SPEAKER_01: Fade to Black is such a good song.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it I've heard it live.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: It's uh one of the first few songs I learned how to play by them when I was first learning.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: Just the acoustic intro and things like that.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: I just I love that kind of shit.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: And you know, Master of Puppets followed in 85, another massive hit for them that i i and honestly it it didn't come until later because in the in the 80s like that, they weren't getting played on the radio.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: No hell because they were eight-minute songs.
47:49
SPEAKER_03: Well, that and you know, it was the devil's music and all that bullshit that the religious people tried to put into it, and it's like, you know what?
47:58
SPEAKER_01: But you also got pigeonholed into the fact that you had hair and glam metal that were out, and you were getting bumped by poison, motley crew, you know, shit like that, and that's why they rebelled.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: They had their own rebellion and started their own movement, and that's why I love that shit.
48:16
SPEAKER_03: So and and that can, you know, really push us into into the the hip-hop category because that's when rock and and and rap started to to mold together.
48:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, you had uh Beastie Boys who had a very, very big rock influence.
48:38
SPEAKER_03: You had Run DMC and Aerosmith breaking boundaries with Walk This Way.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: And then towards the end, you had the heavier stuff with Body Count, and then um I always forget about those guys.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: And then there was um there was a group called Biohazard.
48:54
SPEAKER_03: I remember Biohazard.
48:55
SPEAKER_03: Um they did a uh collab.
48:58
SPEAKER_03: It's escaping me.
48:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna have to look it up again.
49:01
SPEAKER_03: But um, but I that gets me into you know my my favorite.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: Um this was when I discovered hip hop, and this is the considered the golden age of hip-hop because we went from a hip hop, a hippie to the hip, to LL Cool J and run DMC, you know, it's tricky to rock around to rock, you know what I mean?
49:23
SPEAKER_03: And then LL Cool J with songs like I'm bad, you know, no rapper can rap quite like I can.
49:30
SPEAKER_03: I take a muscle bowel man and put his face in the sand.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: So I could go on for days, but right um I wanted to get, you know, this is when hip hop really defined and it started changing because you went from that old school and and and then then they were branching out, and and you had Runde MC.
49:47
SPEAKER_03: If you guys haven't ever go watch the video and and listen to the the walk this way with Runde MC.
49:51
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, and Aerosmith, guys.
49:53
SPEAKER_03: It is it is it is a it is uh the perfect um example of how rock and rap can meet and make something beautiful.
50:02
SPEAKER_03: Um but I wanted to jump into you know just a couple of the defining artists.
50:07
SPEAKER_03: You know, I talked about Beastie Boys, but yeah, you had Runde MC who and L Kool J who really broke into mainstream, um, and they were part of a record label called Def Jam, which at the time was the biggest and best, you know, yeah uh one you know label uh uh of all time.
50:26
SPEAKER_03: But but but again, as we've said many a times, the subgenres came off.
50:31
SPEAKER_03: You had your political rap with Public Enemy and Chuck D, um, where you know it was all about you know, like an one of their albums, It Takes a Nation, uh a nation of millions to hold us back.
50:41
SPEAKER_03: And you know, they had one called Fight the Power, and you know, they were real political.
50:46
SPEAKER_03: And then you had ones like KRS One, who he started in a group called Um Oh, I'm gonna get drugged for this.
50:54
SPEAKER_03: Um Boogie Down Productions, uh, him and a guy named Scott LaRock.
50:58
SPEAKER_03: Scott LaRoc ended up dying, it was his DJ.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh damn.
51:01
SPEAKER_03: Um, but he's considered he he has the title of the teacher.
51:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
51:06
SPEAKER_03: Um he he's lived and breathed hip-hop.
51:09
SPEAKER_03: Um, he was he was a very, very integral part to hip-hop.
51:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then like I said, I mentioned it.
51:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool J.
51:16
SPEAKER_03: He he really started to bring in the the you know, he had a song called I Need Love.
51:21
SPEAKER_03: So he he kind of brought that into hip hop.
51:23
SPEAKER_03: And then you had people like Big Daddy Kane who were who were making songs for the ladies and stuff like that.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, but what I really wanted to, you know, uh get into as far as the landscape of hip-hop changing was Eric being Rakim.
51:37
SPEAKER_03: Um Rakim really uh changed hip-hop with his rhyme patterns and his rhyme schemes and how he constructed the way you would rap.
51:48
SPEAKER_03: Um it's it's it's widely accepted as the single man who changed hip-hop because of his approach.
51:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like LL Run, Big Daddy Kane, all these other guys, Coogee Rap.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: Um, I could keep going on, NWA.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: These guys were integral in parts, but but Rock Kim really started bringing the verbal like when you think of Eminem and you think of these guys like this.
52:12
SPEAKER_03: The lyricism, yes, thank you.
52:13
SPEAKER_03: The lyricism, he's the godfather of it.
52:16
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I'll let you hear some songs after here, and and you'll see, dude.
52:19
SPEAKER_03: This dude, there's a reason why they call him the godfather.
52:21
SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
52:22
SPEAKER_03: Um, but also one that I I wanted to get into um is the 80s brought into we we talked about a little bit last week the elements of hip-hop.
52:31
SPEAKER_03: Because you didn't just have the rap, right?
52:32
SPEAKER_03: You had DJing, you had guys, this is where scratching was invented.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: Right.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: And guys, no, it doesn't fuck up the record.
52:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh eventually, in the beginning it did, but eventually they were able to get needles that didn't scratch the record where they could use it.
52:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, but then there was there was breakdancing, um, which I was never able to do very well.
52:51
SPEAKER_03: Uh tried uh but wasn't good at it, and then you had your graffiti artists, and this was what you know hip-hop was.
52:59
SPEAKER_03: And uh again, this is when I, you know, I I fell in love with it, and and um I I I still to this day, and we'll get into it in future episodes, but again, the fusion of heavy metal and hard rock and rock and rap eventually learned, you know, got to a point where there were just groups that made music like that.
53:21
SPEAKER_03: And and we'll jump into that at a later date, but um, I I definitely wanted to bring up hip-hop and how it started changing.
53:29
SPEAKER_03: And and you know, you had and and and there was there was some, you know, you had some, you know, and and you'll know this name, but you had Uncle Luke.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: Um, he started in the 80s, his big stuff was in the early 90s, but he was controversial because he talked about a lot of sexually explicit things, okay, yeah, and he was pretty um um vulgar and and and x-rated, and so you you had different you know, different uh genres of hip-hop that were starting to form.
54:01
SPEAKER_03: Again, I I would be remiss.
54:03
SPEAKER_03: Gangster rap was born, I have to bring that up.
54:05
SPEAKER_03: You had your your NWAs, the ghetto boys, um cool G rap to an extent.
54:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, gangster rap was really iced tea.
54:15
SPEAKER_03: Ice tea.
54:15
SPEAKER_03: Definitely ice tea.
54:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he had six in the morning police at Mondo, you know, like you're right, you you can't forget that.
54:21
SPEAKER_03: And and and that started in NWA um with fuck the police.
54:27
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that that that that was a thing.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: Um thanks.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: Now we're gonna get pulled over on the way home.
54:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no shit.
54:32
SPEAKER_03: No, kidding.
54:32
SPEAKER_03: Um but I mean, you know, these are all intrical.
54:36
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this is the birth of many consider the greatest producer in hip-hop with Dr.
54:40
SPEAKER_03: Dre.
54:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then you have Ice Cube, who's who's one of the godfathers of of gangster rap, who has had an insane career.
54:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, all NWA.
54:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and these are all NWA guys.
54:50
SPEAKER_03: Easy, yeah, easy, uh RIP who found one of the biggest artists of all time who was from our our home state, and that's Bone, Tungs, and Harmony.
54:59
SPEAKER_03: He found Bone.
55:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
55:01
SPEAKER_03: Um, but we can get into that into the next episode.
55:03
SPEAKER_03: Next episode.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: But yes.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I definitely wanted to to to delve into the to the to the the way hip-hop had come a hell yeah, man.
55:11
SPEAKER_03: The golden age of it, and how it was it was the golden it, dude.
55:14
SPEAKER_03: The parallels between you and my life, like like think about it, man.
55:18
SPEAKER_03: Heavy metal really started to take off and and the kind that you like, the thread of the hip hop that I came into was really 80s and and flowing into the 90s, and it you know, it was it was for our young minds, because minds nowadays, these kids can do 18 different things at the same time.
55:37
SPEAKER_03: There was so much and so many different things you never knew what you wanted to listen to.
55:42
SPEAKER_03: Right today, you had, oh, I want to listen to Mr.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: Big to be with you, and then I'm going to listen to New Edition Candy Girl, and then I'm going over to listen to ACDC Back in Black, and then I'm listening to NWA straight out of Compton.
55:57
SPEAKER_03: It was you were all over the place, and it and it was it was just uh it you had so many options and to go.
56:05
SPEAKER_03: Like I used to go to the grocery store with my mom would take my grandmother every Saturday they would go, which is ironic that I have the same schedule now, but my mom would I didn't put that together.
56:15
SPEAKER_03: Uh my mom would take my grandma every uh Sunday and we would go to the grocery store.
56:19
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
56:20
SPEAKER_03: And once I got my um my Walkman that you talked about at the beginning of the episode, yeah.
56:25
SPEAKER_03: It would, I'd walk around the store with it.
56:26
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
56:27
SPEAKER_03: I was it never it was I'm I was like Johnny in Cobra Kai.
56:31
SPEAKER_03: I go back to when he was young.
56:32
SPEAKER_03: He always it was the same with that was me.
56:35
SPEAKER_03: I was you know, sometimes the radio would be on, sometimes I'd have my cassette set in it, it just depends.
56:39
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, yep.
56:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, my batteries died.
56:45
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
56:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh but yeah, it uh man the 80s was the 80s was was very integral and like we we talked good and we talked up to 70s, and we both kind of agreed if we take hip-hop out of it, the 70s were a better decade.
56:58
SPEAKER_03: But the 80s were the reason why music made it global.
57:02
SPEAKER_03: Right.
57:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh it was always global, but American music wasn't global yet.
57:06
SPEAKER_03: Um we had had their invasion, but they hadn't really had our invasion yet.
57:11
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, the 80s really stepped that up, and and and you know, now think about it, man.
57:17
SPEAKER_03: Your your favorite band now became the only band to perform on all seven continents.
57:22
SPEAKER_01: And they're rock and roll hall of famers, too.
57:24
SPEAKER_03: And as well they should be.
57:25
SPEAKER_03: And I've seen them live.
57:27
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I feel like if you just say rock and roll and you had to put them up much more, if you don't put them on there, we can't talk.
57:34
SPEAKER_03: We can't talk.
57:34
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, man.
57:35
SPEAKER_03: I mean, am I as big a fan as you as no, but I know what they were to music.
57:40
SPEAKER_03: Right.
57:40
SPEAKER_03: You have to put them on that list, you just have to.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, I mean, where where where else do you want to what do you what do you want to touch on?
57:49
SPEAKER_03: You want to go a little little freestyle for a minute and talk about some things or I don't know.
57:55
SPEAKER_03: That's up to you.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: I think we've kind of hit on everything.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: Unless you have something else you want to hit on.
57:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, not really, man.
57:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this went I I I really truly thought we could we would talk about it for two hours, but God, we're getting so good at this that we've really learned how to to to to get to what we want to and keep it moving.
58:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think we've kind of consolidated our notes and really hit on what we wanted to hit on, and I'm I'm fine with how we're gonna.
58:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's because we're the shit.
58:18
SPEAKER_03: We've tried.
58:19
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no more saying that's why you guys don't listen.
58:22
SPEAKER_03: You guys don't listen because you don't have good ears.
58:26
SPEAKER_03: It's your fault now, not ours.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I said, I think we really we really hit on everything.
58:30
SPEAKER_03: I I I I think we nailed it.
58:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you're I'm good with where we're at.
58:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:34
SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, then we know is it is it 80 shuffle it?
58:38
SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
58:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is 80 shuffle it.
58:41
SPEAKER_03: I guess we gotta do it.
58:42
SPEAKER_03: Shit, I forgot about it.
58:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:44
SPEAKER_00: We were just going on and on, it was great.
58:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:48
SPEAKER_00: Hell damn balls.
58:50
SPEAKER_00: Hell damn balls.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: We'll have to yeah.
58:54
SPEAKER_01: Damn it.
58:59
SPEAKER_01: We we were such in good conversation that I was just like, oh man.
59:03
SPEAKER_03: Uh it literally just popped in my head, so you want me to go first this year.
59:12
SPEAKER_03: Go first.
59:12
SPEAKER_03: I went first on the bowl sessions this year.
59:14
SPEAKER_03: Alright, uh, here we go with 80s from my oh god.
59:20
SPEAKER_03: So my first is walk like an Egyptian from the bangles.
59:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the bangles, nice, bro.
59:25
SPEAKER_03: We didn't even talk about you know what?
59:28
SPEAKER_03: To all the ladies out there, I apologize for not bringing up.
59:31
SPEAKER_03: There was a lot of of 80s girls' bands, the bangles, Cindy Lauper, Hart, that we that we didn't talk about where we could have.
59:38
SPEAKER_03: Uh, and I apologize for that.
59:40
SPEAKER_03: But I I assure you the 90s and 2000s will really start having that.
59:45
SPEAKER_03: You misogynistic.
59:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm a piece of shit.
59:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but I have walked like an Egyptian because I don't care who you are, that song's catchy as well.
59:53
SPEAKER_03: Uh uh next is a song that a lot of people don't know he actually wrote, but it's nothing compares to you by Prince.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_03: Um, obviously, um Sinead O'Connor made it famous, but he wrote and originally recorded that.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I'm gonna go Come on Eileen.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_03: Okay, um, which is a good song.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh uh a very big hit in bars.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_03: I can tell you some work in there.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_03: I can imagine.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_03: Next is Love is a Battlefield by Pat Benitar.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_01: Pat Benitar.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_01: That's the first time she's come up.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and uh that that's that's rounding up my top five.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, one more.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, and this is perfect.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_03: Sweet child of mine, Guns and Roses.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_03: Guns and Roses, yeah.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_03: Such a good yeah, bro.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_01: That's a good rounded list, man.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_03: That fucking, yeah, that little riff that he does in the beginning of that.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh yes.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_03: All right, on to Bob's.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_03: I always feel like Bob's will be a little more eclectic because the 80s, I got hip-hop in there, but again, it they didn't have the hits that they started in the 90s, so it's not it's not gonna trickle its way in.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_01: And we didn't really talk about this guy either.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_01: Jack and Diane by John Hill.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I I thought about him the other day, you know why the song came on mind?
1:01:11
SPEAKER_03: Remember the song he did in the 90s with him and uh Michelle and Degiocello?
1:01:15
SPEAKER_03: I love that song, and I that popped up on my list the other day, and I was like, oh shit, can't talk about it because it was a 90s song.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he was huge in the in the in the 80s, Jack and Diane and put me in coach.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_01: And we talked about this one a little bit ago.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_01: You did.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh Heaven, Brian Adams.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that song.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_01: Great song.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_01: That's a great song.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_01: Number three.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: Hungry like the wolf, Duran Duran.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_01: Talked about that one too.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: Great, great song.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh, here's an overlooked one, because I don't like the movie.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_01: Footloose.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_01: Kenny Loggins.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_01: Footloose.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_01: How many is that?
1:01:53
SPEAKER_01: Four?
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: That's four.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_01: All right, here's number five.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_01: We built the city by Starship.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: Started off as Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship, Starship.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_01: Good song.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: It's a good song.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, those are great, great choices.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_03: The 80s had so many fucking hits and shit though, it wasn't gonna go bad.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_03: Alright, it's on, it's it's it's on to to Big E's favorite part of this.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_03: I need to hear this dad joke.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you ready?
1:02:23
SPEAKER_03: You ready for the dad joke?
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: I need my freaking, I need more them dad jokes.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_01: Y'all got any more of them dad jokes over there?
1:02:29
SPEAKER_01: I do have a good one.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_01: This this one might uh this one might break you.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_01: I hope.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_01: Alright, I'm gonna try to do this with a straight face because I found it and just oh my wife was like, what are you laughing at?
1:02:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this is the dad joke I found.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm over here dying.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: Why is it impossible to break up with a band from the 80s?
1:02:58
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_01: Because they're never gonna give you up.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_01: Never gonna let you down.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_03: You had controllers, didn't you?
1:03:09
SPEAKER_01: I rig rolled you guys.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_01: And on that note, we'll see you next week.