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Codifying Heathenry: Don't Do It... · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  All right, everybody Hill and welcome back to another episode
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  time that I upload new content. Alright, so today's video,
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  today's discussion is something that has been on my mind for
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  just a little while on. Well, it's been on my mind for a
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  while, but on and off. But it's been on my mind more
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  heavily recently for like maybe the last week or two.
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  And that is the subject that I want to talk.
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  Today is that about where we see certain either organizations or
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  people taking measures to codify Heathen ring.
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  Now, some of you may be wondering what I mean by that
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  and where my stance is coming from is as may as some of you
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  may know my approach to Heathen re is not 100% hardcore, you
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  know, historical reconstruction approach.
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  I'm not a hardcore Recon. He then I've said it many times
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  on my channel but I'm also not one of these, you know, kind of
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  just neo-pagan trying to slap, you know, the Norse aesthetic on
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  to modern-day neo-pagan. Is, that's not me, and it's not
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  the way I do things. That's not how I Heaton,
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  however, you Heathen. And, however, the people, you
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  know, Heathen and then people at you, you know, kind of tie weird
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  with, and share your life with that's their business, your
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  business, you know, your hall, your call to sort of reference.
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  A very famous catchphrase from a good friend of mine.
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  Mr. Eric, shervin over at the Ravens call?
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  If you haven't yet, please check out his content.
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  Over on YouTube as well. But anyway, the thing that I
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  wanted to talk about today with regards to codifying Heathen re,
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  or any attempts to do. So is probably one of the
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  biggest and most popular attempts and and gestures to
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  codify Heathen re is the infamous, you know, nine Noble
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  virtues. I've talked a bit about my
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  opinion of the nine Noble virtues on this channel.
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  If you are watching this on YouTube, check out the annotated
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  cards that you'll see. Occasionally pop up one of those
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  will be a card to direct you to that video.
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  Where I talked about the nine Noble virtues.
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  We're going to refer to them as the nnv going forward, so make
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  sure that you, if you haven't yet already, you know, check out
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  that video. I already kind of went to what I
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  think about the nnv but to sort of summarize it here for this
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  video. I don't necessarily think that
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  they're horrible. You know, they are if you've not
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  seen them before, as you can see here on your screen, it is, you
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  know, courage, truth, honor Fidelity discipline, Hospitality
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  self-reliance, industriousness and perseverance.
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  Now, these are all great, you know, moral codes, right, or
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  things that you could apply to your life and that can be
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  applied to almost any Walk of Life.
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  Not even a heathen view or Heathen approach to living that
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  will probably make a make you look like an upstanding
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  individual and make you look pretty, you know, morally,
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  upright. But are they inherently Heathen?
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  No, no, they're not. And I've talked about that in
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  the other in. My previous video about the, the
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  nnv, what? The n?
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  N VR are a very, very modern construct, right?
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  And they are, you know, moral codes of conduct that are
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  Loosely and kind of more or less pulled from some sources, where
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  a lot of Norse heathens draw. Their information from namely,
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  the have them all and there's another poetic Edda poem in the
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  poetic Edda significant mom. So between the whole them all
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  and security from all poems, in the poetic Edda, you know,
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  somebody back in the 70s, codified this Collective I call
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  them buzzwords, you know, and they were, they were codified.
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  By the edenic, right? So there's connections to that
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  organization that have, you know, a lot of fascist and
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  racist, and bigoted, approaches to things.
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  So, the association that the nnv have to the edenic right?
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  Also, leaves a bit of a sour taste in old and many heathens
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  mouths, right? Myself included.
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  Now, again, like I said, our the nnv necessarily wrong obviously,
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  It's great to be courageous to speak the truth to maintain
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  honor Fidelity. Discipline, be hospitable hosts
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  and guests. You know, things that you can do
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  to be self-reliant. The things that you can do to be
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  industrious and to persevere. Like these are all great things,
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  they're not inherently Heathen. And the problem that I
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  particularly have is that this these moral codes or any attempt
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  to codify human re, right? And when I say, codify I am
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  talking about the attempt to You know, set up a code or a law or
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  to make a digest of and arranged in a systematic, sort of way,
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  any sort of, you know, law. Now I'm going to be talking a
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  little bit later on in this video as we as we move along
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  that there is a place for law. There is a definite place for
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  Law and hearing but I don't think that it fits into this
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  codification method that has been Very recently, by a lot of
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  us, a tour or modern-day heathens that are trying to find
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  their way in, even re it's again.
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  It's a nice kind of think of think about when, you know about
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  these moral codes but they're there.
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  They are very, very modern taken from very, very questionable
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  characters. You know, the sources that they
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  come from, yes, they may be coming from Some places they
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  call them all and singular from all.
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  And those, you know what we would consider process, possibly
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  primary sources for for Heathen rebut their the connection that
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  they have to the organic right? And the racist connections and
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  all that. It's just, it's not great.
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  So anyway, getting away from that.
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  I think I've beat that horse to death.
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  Well enough, you understand where I'm coming from here?
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  I do want to talk about though that, you know, to have law to
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  have something. To focus on moral codes, that
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  sort of thing. It's not even so much moral
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  codes. It's the launch is something
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  that you have to have a least, a basic understanding of even
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  worldview-2 to get what it is and I'm saying and we're going
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  to take a look at that a little bit in depth.
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  Now, as we go into this further discussion, All right.
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  So now as I have, you know, talked many times on this
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  channel before, I've made reference to a book that I
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  highly recommend anybody who's wanting to get into Heathen re
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  and take it seriously. A very, very helpful book for me
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  to help develop my own worldview was a book written by are
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  quoting called. We are our Deeds, okay?
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  And what it does, is it goes over some of the moral and
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  ethics and things that existed pre-christian times.
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  Times with the Germanic people of Northern Europe.
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  So one of the things that stands out to me when we're talking
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  about codifying heathen rewrite, should we have these buzzwords?
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  We have these things that you say that everybody, no matter
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  what approach to Heathen re they have is something that they
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  should be following. Is that even a thing?
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  Can that be done with an even re?
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  And I don't think it can. I don't think that we can an
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  globalize and make even re something so generic and
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  Universal that it can be summed up into nine buzzwords or nine
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  moral codes of conduct, right? We have to understand a and have
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  an understanding of a heathen world view.
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  And Erik Walden's book, we are. These does help in educating us
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  about that, one of the things that we learn about.
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  Was the concept of things like law, but and things such as or
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  words, such as Sin. And I want to talk a bit about
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  Sin and from a heathen context because it's going to help kind
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  of bring into. It's going to help relate
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  everything, it's gonna help, correlate, everything.
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  What I'm saying about right now and where I think law fits into
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  tehillim, so sin has a place in history and for a lot of newer
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  heater That of maybe come from Christianity.
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  And they have a certain view about what sin is, you know,
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  maybe they have a pre conceived meaning of the word and maybe
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  they're reading a bunch of books now, as they're getting involved
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  in Heathen, re that have been penned by authors who really
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  have no interest in the actual truth of heathen or either.
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  Just, you know, either trying to make a buck or writing their own
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  feelings. It is something that exists and
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  has a place in Heathen re talking about Sin, right?
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  Some folks May that are new to, he there, he may perhaps be
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  dismayed to learn that, while the Heathen approach to sin,
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  kind of differs the fundamental aspects of it, and what it means
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  Remains the Same, right? Because to Sin from a human
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  perspective, it is to trans, get transgressor to go against
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  divine. Right.
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  And that's because if you are violating Divine Law, the
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  compliance with which right clients with Divine Law, is what
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  it is vital to the foundations of a healthy and long and strong
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  surviving tried. All right, we're going to get
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  into some of the dynamic of kievan reunited is tribal at its
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  core and that is the backbone of Steven Rios is tribal approach.
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  Only when a tribe really begins to fully pick up and grasp, the
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  sacred elements present in the roots of their respective inner
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  circles or enter yards, or even guarded.
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  And what that means is when a beneficial relationship with the
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  sacred, or with the Divine, with our God's can be secured and
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  maintained, right? So, as order is established, As
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  things are established with a tribe of, this is what we're
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  going to do, this is how we're going to do it.
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  The anatomy of that tribal body begins to take place.
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  That is the shape and the form of the tribe is becoming evident
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  those Customs that are, you know, set up by the people that
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  are developing that tribe or how the tribes me about it.
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  Is that as those Customs begin to, you know, awesome.
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  Into the bones of Tribal Law. It's going to allow those
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  blowing in the tribe to continue forward in a harmonious sort of
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  way. Everybody is going to understand
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  that. This is how the tribe functions
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  and this is how our society, our our our Collective, our group is
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  going to function successfully, write every issue that arises
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  every problem that's encountered.
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  There's a loss that in place and if there's a law that's created
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  to address and deal with it in a good and wholesome sort of way
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  within the tribe and then the bones of the tribe will reflect
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  the structure and pattern of. And it's unrelenting nature of a
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  primal law, right? Which is where we start thinking
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  about things like order log. The things that have been laid
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  down that layer in the, Well, from our, from our ancestors
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  that were that we're pulling from Doing this.
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  The tribe is had it at its core, it's imbuing.
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  The bones or these laws as it were with some sort of with us
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  with an element of sacredness. It puts it puts them in
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  connection with the divine So law has to be developed and
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  that's where the the difference between these Buzz words.
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  These what I'm saying, codifying even re I don't mean that there
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  shouldn't be law. There shouldn't be ordered or
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  shouldn't be, you know, those sorts of things.
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  But what I'm saying is that, that law and that order is
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  developed at the tribal level, that's not something that is
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  universally spouted out with these, you know, courage, honor
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  Fidelity, you know, industriousness these just basic
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  moral codes of conduct that Nope, didn't have to exist in
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  our cheating times for society to function.
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  They just can't they just were that by doing what they did and
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  being the way they were, So when when Tribal Law is developed,
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  then we have what comes from law is through the Traditions, the
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  things that binds the tribe. It's kind of like the sinew that
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  allows the tribe to live in peace with their laws, right?
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  Those Traditions, those those things that exist and that have
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  existed for so long, if the tribe has been around for so, so
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  very long that or log again, that we were talking about
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  before that layer in the well, that is being pulled from Again,
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  the few becomes like that seen you wear that binding agent,
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  that that allows a child to live in peace with those laws without
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  breaching or breaking any. It's the custom that that is so
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  flexible that it allows the body of the tribe to not shatter,
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  right? It's not so I guess stringent or
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  or fragile that it's easily broken there.
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  There's some flexibility and the, the analogy that I'm giving
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  of like sinew, right? So when law and through take
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  form within the tribe, there's an undeniable existence.
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  You can't ignore this. These concepts of things that
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  are good and evil. So what it what would be
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  considered sin for tribe if you're committed and what would
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  be considered, right? So those things are, they did
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  just kind of get formed and become part of They become a
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  parent to everything that it's good and right.
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  And if it's what benefits, the tribe and allows the tribe to
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  thrive, then to violate anything that the anything that would
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  hurt that is consumed, be considered sin.
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  And so the law, right? Or the film is developed at the
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  tribal level. It's not again, something that
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  just is, you know, broadly universally kind of Given by,
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  you know, a nice Facebook post or a fancy you know plaque that
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  you can hang on your wall. And you know say well these are
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  the codes that I live by and it's you know you're limiting
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  yourself at that point. It's like well I would hope that
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  you as an individual are industrious enough and that it
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  you as an individual are, you know, Maintaining your honor and
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  a good reputation with your folks and that you are
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  discipline to control certain things in your life and to not,
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  you know, and then to also be, you know, hospitable guest or
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  hospitable hosts like again, these are all things that sure
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  they're great but they're not. I keep going back to this.
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  You're saying, it's all they are.
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  Is they're buzzwords, right? It's something to just make you
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  feel good about it. So when I, you know, talked
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  about in this in the title of this video that, you know,
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  codifying Heathen re don't do it, you know what I mean by that
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  is that there's there's more too.
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  Moral code, if there's more to it than just those, those
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  individual words, right? And I don't care really how it
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  gets change and others. I've seen some things online
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  going around where you know people want to take away from
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  the nnv or will get away from the nnv because of its, you
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  know, connections with the oh zdenek, right?
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  And that's where they were codified.
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  And that's the connection that they have.
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  They want to get away from that. And yet, They come up with a
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  whole new set of nine virtues or nine you know things to live by
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  codes of conduct moral codes or whatever.
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  It's like so you're not you're not you're exchanging one for
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  something that really doesn't have any greater or better or
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  better value, you know. All right so cool.
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  You get a neat little picture to hang on your wall and point out
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  to people and say yeah that's what I live by.
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  Okay, well, what do you need a plaque on that on the wall to
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  say that? And you know, without naming
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  names or calling anybody out if it works for you?
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  If if that's what works for your tribe for your group, for your
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  organization, for whatever than great, if that's what works for
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  you. It doesn't, it doesn't sit with
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  me as being an effective approach to Heathen ring because
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  I my particular view in the way I approach Heathen, Rihanna Some
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  of the other people around and in my life that approach even
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  realize that it's delving deeper into a world view, it's not just
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  yeah, I'm going to be courageous, I'm going to be
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  disciplined, I'm going to be self-reliant, I'm going to be,
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  you know, hospitable. It's those are all things that
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  become part of who we are, as we cultivate and develop and
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  nourish our worldview. So, When I say in the tile
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  again, when I say in this video that it's, you know, don't don't
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  codify even, we shouldn't be codifying even right to that
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  end. I would say that if it, you
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  know, again, if it works for you and if it fits your approach,
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  hey, who am I to say? It's wrong?
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  You know, it's your haul, your call, not my haul, not my call,
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  but for me, and for those around me who I share anti weird with
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  it goes, It goes Way Beyond. Just those simple words.
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  I hope that this has given a lot of people, some things to think
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  about and I hope that you are considering if you haven't yet
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  already getting a copy of, we are our Deeds by are quoting
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  yourself. I've recommended it a number of
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  times in a lot of videos. and I've You know, I'm not a door
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  store, anything by, you know, the publisher or anything like
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  that. So don't get me wrong.
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  It's not like I'm seeing any sort of kick back for
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  recommending. It is just, I think it really
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  does help with people's approach to Heathen rien as they come
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  into. Even as they start learning
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  things. It's more than just You know,
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  fancy graphics on your wall or on your timeline or on social
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  media. It's more than just these words
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  that make you feel good. It's way more complex than that.
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  And I think that if people take that approach, not to say that,
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  you know, you have to go full 100% historically
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  Reconstructionist with your Heathen re, but that, if you
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  delve a bit into it, and if you take some time to learn about
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  the way, Things were done by our ancestors and to use it to, you
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  know, try to think of a good word.
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  But if you take historical heat and refuting, if you approach
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  Heathen re from a historically based approach, you know,
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  concept, you're going to see a lot of things that if it worked
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  back, then it can work now and you can apply it to a modern or
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  add a modern twist to it. What I've tried to do, you know?
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  Taking historical even practices and making, you know, adding
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  some Modern and taking the modern inventions and applying
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  it there so it works, it has worked for me, maybe it works
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  for you. But I am curious to know what
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  your thoughts and what your approaches to all this.
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  Hopefully the ramblings that I've gone on for, you know, in
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  the last 20-30 minutes or whatever.
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  It's been have really you know, shed some light on things.
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  Again, I'm not knocking anybody or putting anybody, or their
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  organizations, or their groups, or anything down.
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  If that's what you, that's what makes it work for you.
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  If your tribe has certain words that you have have built into
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  your tribal through great. That's what makes the tribe work
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  but it's more than that it's yes, there's there's words to it
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  but it's more than just those singular words and things behind
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  them. It's it goes deeper than that in
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  my opinion. So, Anyways, that's today's
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