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- 0:29Speaker 1: today's show, we're talking about the Ohio State defense against
- 0:32Speaker 1: Indiana and they held the Hoosiers just thirteen points most weeks,
- 0:36Speaker 1: that is going to be plenty to win the game.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It was not in Indianapolis. So we're going to be
- 0:41Speaker 1: talking a little bit about some of the stuff that worked,
- 0:43Speaker 1: some of the stuff that didn't work, and maybe a
- 0:44Speaker 1: little bit about what it might mean moving forward heading
- 0:47Speaker 1: into the college football playoff. Ross, We're going to start
- 0:50Speaker 1: with the run game, and all year long we've talked
- 0:53Speaker 1: about how, you know, the good and the bad of
- 0:55Speaker 1: the Penny front. That's something we've seen a bunch this season,
- 0:58Speaker 1: talked about it plenty, and we're going to start with
- 1:00Speaker 1: one where Okay, the Penny front what it does really
- 1:03Speaker 1: well against the run?
- 1:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great against zone runs, which is you know
- 1:09Speaker 2: primarily what Indiana is a zone RPO team. Like to
- 1:13Speaker 2: back up, I guess from take it from the wide
- 1:16Speaker 2: angle first I thought on it. You know, obviously they
- 1:19Speaker 2: only gave up thirteen points on a down and down basis.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Ohio State was very good in particular, like they were
- 1:27Speaker 2: good at taking away the RPO throws, which I thought
- 1:31Speaker 2: was pretty critical. We discussed before the game. I think, like,
- 1:33Speaker 2: you know, half of Indiana's yards came on four or
- 1:36Speaker 2: five plays, so and obviously they were not particularly successful
- 1:40Speaker 2: running the football. But so you saw a lot of this.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Obviously these attached RPO on the backside with these hitches.
- 1:46Speaker 2: You know, Ohio State combination of you know, playing some
- 1:50Speaker 2: more cover four quarters looks where they could sort of
- 1:53Speaker 2: stay on top of these RPOs and you know, be
- 1:56Speaker 2: pretty sticky in coverage. You know, some cover one man
- 2:00Speaker 2: some cover three, which has been their base standard down
- 2:04Speaker 2: front or coverage look for much of the year. So
- 2:07Speaker 2: there just wasn't a lot there in that in the
- 2:09Speaker 2: RPO game, which is how Indiana's gained a lot of
- 2:12Speaker 2: you know, their yards and created explosives this year. And
- 2:15Speaker 2: then you know in the run game, as I said,
- 2:18Speaker 2: from there the penny front particular from you you see
- 2:22Speaker 2: from the backside, there's really very little in the way
- 2:24Speaker 2: of double teams. Uh, there's you know, Indiana gets one
- 2:27Speaker 2: on uh the three technique, uh malone, but you know,
- 2:32Speaker 2: uh Kate McDonald's one on one on the center. Uh,
- 2:36Speaker 2: you know he's gonna win that most times. Uh, they're
- 2:38Speaker 2: unable to get a body on Styles. And so that's
- 2:41Speaker 2: a lot of what you see, you know, in a
- 2:42Speaker 2: high stake again, these single block situations, they could win
- 2:45Speaker 2: up front a lot of the time. Obviously McDonald you know,
- 2:48Speaker 2: has been a pretty dominant force at noseguard throughout the season,
- 2:51Speaker 2: and Styles was played really well as well. So you know,
- 2:56Speaker 2: i'd say again like Downtown Basis, Ohio State was you
- 3:00Speaker 2: know winning most of the time, as you said, thirteen
- 3:03Speaker 2: points giving up despite sort of looking at some of
- 3:06Speaker 2: the problems here, like should be enough to win any game.
- 3:10Speaker 1: All right, So that was the penny front looking good
- 3:12Speaker 1: against the Indiana rush offense. Now we're going to do
- 3:15Speaker 1: one where it doesn't work quite so well. You mentioned
- 3:17Speaker 1: it's a good, you know, good look to show against
- 3:22Speaker 1: a zone based run offense. So is this Indiana going
- 3:25Speaker 1: away from the zone into more of a gap scheme here?
- 3:28Speaker 1: Is that what goes wrong or something else that's at
- 3:30Speaker 1: work here?
- 3:32Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's exactly it. So we this is sort of,
- 3:35Speaker 2: you know, a constant look that Ohio State has been
- 3:36Speaker 2: getting in the second half of the season. We saw
- 3:38Speaker 2: Michigan have some success Rutgers U c LA. You're putting
- 3:43Speaker 2: your trips or to the field and then running gap
- 3:46Speaker 2: scheme to the boundary against the penny front. Now you
- 3:50Speaker 2: know that's had some success. This actually High State's in
- 3:53Speaker 2: a four down look here and but and they were
- 3:56Speaker 2: against Michigan two on that opening run that we showed.
- 3:59Speaker 2: But similar issues apply where Ohio State is getting you know,
- 4:03Speaker 2: three over three over the trips and the way they
- 4:06Speaker 2: have the coverage set up here is you know, the
- 4:09Speaker 2: boundary corner. Davidson Ignosen is responsible for that boundary sea gap,
- 4:14Speaker 2: which obviously isn't ideal for any team. You know, if
- 4:17Speaker 2: you're going to box instead of spill to the corner,
- 4:19Speaker 2: you're you're going to end up with a defensive back there.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Sometimes Ohio State has handled that by they invert the
- 4:25Speaker 2: coverage and so they'll have the safety take that boundary
- 4:29Speaker 2: sea gap. Usually McLain and then ignosen will be like
- 4:33Speaker 2: a deep path or deep third player. But here obviously
- 4:36Speaker 2: they get caught. The other thing that the results in
- 4:38Speaker 2: an explosive here. So one thing we'll show it after this.
- 4:42Speaker 2: What Ohio State was doing in response is they're trying
- 4:45Speaker 2: to cancel gaps in the backfield. So here, like you
- 4:47Speaker 2: can see rfl re screaming down the line right because
- 4:50Speaker 2: he's going to essentially create get another body to the
- 4:55Speaker 2: other side of the center by just playing straight downhill
- 4:57Speaker 2: and you can see sunny styles actually they're gap exchanging,
- 5:00Speaker 2: and so like he's responsible for the quarterback. The problem
- 5:03Speaker 2: is like just unfortunately for our High State, uh Malone
- 5:07Speaker 2: gets blocked back and basically he knocks off the polar
- 5:10Speaker 2: but he also knocks off r VL Reese and so
- 5:13Speaker 2: you know, I guess the downside of canceling gaps in
- 5:15Speaker 2: the backfield. I suppose this could happen, but that you know,
- 5:19Speaker 2: let's Indiana get their guard onto igban Nosen and you know,
- 5:23Speaker 2: both downs and styles or to the playside or to
- 5:26Speaker 2: the field side, I should say, and that leads to
- 5:29Speaker 2: a big game.
- 5:30Speaker 1: This next one, I think is a really good example
- 5:32Speaker 1: of a really interesting idea that I think people probably
- 5:35Speaker 1: are wondering about a lot. You know, we talk all
- 5:37Speaker 1: the time about reeds and you're leaving a defender unblocked,
- 5:40Speaker 1: and this is I think a great example of Okay,
- 5:43Speaker 1: what if the unblocked defender is just really fast and
- 5:45Speaker 1: gets in there fast enough that he can blow up
- 5:47Speaker 1: the play and take away kind of both reads on it.
- 5:50Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Kayden Curry does here.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and and then that's like sort of an issue
- 5:56Speaker 2: at the higher levels of football, you know, when you
- 5:57Speaker 2: get to the NFL, when your defensive ends can be
- 5:59Speaker 2: good enough to both surf and then and then commit down.
- 6:02Speaker 2: You see Ohio State do that a lot. But you
- 6:04Speaker 2: know here, really we've got again, So Indiana going back
- 6:07Speaker 2: to the wall, right, So like after that big run,
- 6:09Speaker 2: they tried immediately again same thing like trips GT counter
- 6:13Speaker 2: to the boundary. Ohio States stopped it was with styles
- 6:16Speaker 2: flowing over the top. And here, so this is the
- 6:18Speaker 2: last drive of the game, Indiana's second down. Like obviously
- 6:21Speaker 2: they need one first down to win, so they go
- 6:23Speaker 2: back to this concept, right, and so you get the
- 6:25Speaker 2: bubble screen with GT counter to the boundary. And here
- 6:29Speaker 2: the canceling the back gap in the backfield works with
- 6:32Speaker 2: Kayden Curry obviously taking out the running back. You know,
- 6:36Speaker 2: Mendoza tries to sort of throw his body into him.
- 6:39Speaker 2: But so this is just one way. You know, Ohio
- 6:42Speaker 2: State's going to obviously continue to see uh these looks.
- 6:46Speaker 2: You know. The other thing is they put here the
- 6:49Speaker 2: formation the front into the boundary. You can see McDonald
- 6:52Speaker 2: is a one technique to the short side and Reese's
- 6:55Speaker 2: you know over there as well. And so and again
- 6:58Speaker 2: you have what I said, like so here you have
- 7:00Speaker 2: Igbanos and dropping back is a deep safety in McClain
- 7:03Speaker 2: playing that backsea gap. So there are things they can do.
- 7:07Speaker 2: This is obviously going to be an issue they have
- 7:09Speaker 2: to continue to confront. But you know, canceling gaps in
- 7:11Speaker 2: the backfield like this, you know, even when you get
- 7:14Speaker 2: three over three to take away that bubble screen can
- 7:17Speaker 2: be an effective response.
- 7:20Speaker 1: All right, and now we're moving on to the passing game,
- 7:22Speaker 1: but we're keeping it very much on the theme of
- 7:24Speaker 1: Kyd and Curry blowing stuff up in the backfield. This
- 7:27Speaker 1: is one where just a four man rush and Kayden
- 7:30Speaker 1: Curry just beats the right tackle. That was one of
- 7:32Speaker 1: those positional matchups that we had sort of highlighted as like,
- 7:35Speaker 1: I keep an eye on this matchup going into the game.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Indiana's right tackles had not been phenomenal in going into
- 7:42Speaker 1: the game, and Kyden Curry had a big, big day
- 7:44Speaker 1: against them. This is one where he gets home on
- 7:47Speaker 1: the pass rush.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of interesting, Like I don't know, I'm not
- 7:51Speaker 2: sure it was noticed during the game, but Zenwahawski started
- 7:53Speaker 2: for Indiana right tackle and after I believe after this
- 7:56Speaker 2: rap he was beat by Curry a few times and
- 7:59Speaker 2: then they put back in. They're starting right tackle from
- 8:02Speaker 2: most of the season, who had been injured, who played
- 8:04Speaker 2: the rest of the game. But Ohio State was pretty
- 8:07Speaker 2: static up front. I would say, like there were stats
- 8:10Speaker 2: going into this game that Mendoza had struggled some against pressure,
- 8:14Speaker 2: but you know, not a lot from Ohio State, I
- 8:16Speaker 2: would say beyond four man, you know, occasional sim pressure
- 8:20Speaker 2: zone pressures that didn't really get home even when they
- 8:23Speaker 2: did them, which is kind of an issue that Ohio
- 8:25Speaker 2: State is going to have to deal with going forward.
- 8:27Speaker 2: I don't think they're been particularly effective lately with their
- 8:31Speaker 2: pressure schemes getting guys free. But one thing we did see,
- 8:34Speaker 2: as I said, was more quarters from Ohio State, particularly
- 8:37Speaker 2: like in this you know, not quite to the red zone,
- 8:39Speaker 2: but getting near the goal line, red zone area, and
- 8:43Speaker 2: so you're just getting you know, you have four over
- 8:46Speaker 2: three to the field, you have three over two to
- 8:48Speaker 2: the boundary taking away you know this route, you got
- 8:52Speaker 2: like a smash concept to the boundary and double digs
- 8:55Speaker 2: to the field and nowhere really for Mento's you go
- 8:58Speaker 2: to go with the football. So Kurry got home. So
- 9:00Speaker 2: I'd say, you know, Cody Alexander had some good stats
- 9:04Speaker 2: this weekend for people interested. Like again, Ohio State's been
- 9:08Speaker 2: very much, uh single high cover three based team, but
- 9:12Speaker 2: we've seen as they get into teams that are more
- 9:15Speaker 2: capable of passing units, like mixing in more split safety concepts.
- 9:21Speaker 2: You know, Cover two's cover six. You know we're talking
- 9:24Speaker 2: about or cover eight. We're talking about like cover two
- 9:26Speaker 2: to one side, covered four the other and here playing
- 9:28Speaker 2: just some some standard quarters. So I think that's probably
- 9:32Speaker 2: something to look forward look at going forward. But I
- 9:35Speaker 2: do think broadly speaking, there's a need for you know,
- 9:41Speaker 2: I think mixing up the pressures more honestly, like mixing
- 9:44Speaker 2: up you know, we saw how effective Indiana was on
- 9:46Speaker 2: the flip side using simulated pressures. I just didn't think
- 9:49Speaker 2: there was like a lot of that in the game
- 9:51Speaker 2: plan at what little there was. It was, you know,
- 9:54Speaker 2: I didn't think Ohio State was very effective executing it. So,
- 9:58Speaker 2: you know, I do think if there's anything I was
- 10:00Speaker 2: gonna I would critique from Ohio State in this game.
- 10:02Speaker 2: We'll talk about that here a little bit more with
- 10:04Speaker 2: these two plays coming up, But was you know, mixing
- 10:08Speaker 2: up the simulated pressures and using a little bit more
- 10:11Speaker 2: fire zones.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Yeah, And this next one is another example of them
- 10:15Speaker 1: showing simulated pressure and then the pressure that does come
- 10:18Speaker 1: not getting home. This was on the very opening drive
- 10:21Speaker 1: of the game, and it was that long shot down
- 10:23Speaker 1: the field to Omar Cooper where Lorenzo styles Junior. It
- 10:26Speaker 1: felt like it it made a really nice play in
- 10:28Speaker 1: the ball to break up what could have been a
- 10:30Speaker 1: huge play early on for Indiana.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Yeah, again, you saw Indiana early and often attacking the
- 10:36Speaker 2: seams and so obviously like that is a game plan
- 10:40Speaker 2: that works against Cover three. But it actually was a
- 10:45Speaker 2: good response for Indiana to variety of Ohio State was
- 10:48Speaker 2: showing and now you know Ohio State was carrying rats
- 10:53Speaker 2: and so like this is as you said, so this
- 10:56Speaker 2: is a Cover two pressure, Like this is exactly what
- 10:58Speaker 2: we showed Indiana run uh on the interception gets at
- 11:03Speaker 2: Julian sand Or Actually, well, actually this is a fire zone,
- 11:05Speaker 2: I should say. So they're they're bringing five uh, and
- 11:08Speaker 2: you're they're gonna play Cover two too deep with the
- 11:11Speaker 2: Tampa pole runner and four under and uh, as I said,
- 11:14Speaker 2: they're going to carry that seam. So it's a nice
- 11:16Speaker 2: play by Lorenzo Styles. But yeah, I just think so
- 11:20Speaker 2: they It's not to say they did not bring pressures,
- 11:23Speaker 2: but it just it was because here they're bringing uh
- 11:28Speaker 2: Sunny Styles are dropping uh Kenyata Jackson. So sorry I
- 11:31Speaker 2: misspoke again, this is in fact a sin Melia pressure
- 11:34Speaker 2: or they're just bringing four and they're you know, kind
- 11:35Speaker 2: of using RVL Reese the whole game as that spy
- 11:38Speaker 2: like to mirror Mendoza or some you know, some combination
- 11:41Speaker 2: of styles or Reese. But as I said, like they
- 11:45Speaker 2: don't get enough pressure here, and so I think there's
- 11:49Speaker 2: you know, they just were not particularly effective when they
- 11:52Speaker 2: did bring these sim pressures. A lot of like interior
- 11:55Speaker 2: sim pressures that didn't get home. And you know, this
- 11:59Speaker 2: is obviously the makes it difficult when you're doing these
- 12:01Speaker 2: cover two concepts to cover the scene, which is you know,
- 12:06Speaker 2: part of what we were talking about on the High
- 12:08Speaker 2: State offensive side, like they needed to attack that pole
- 12:10Speaker 2: runner and the scene more when they were getting all
- 12:12Speaker 2: those cover two looks. So we that we showed and
- 12:15Speaker 2: conversely like Indiana was going after that here.
- 12:20Speaker 1: All right, This next one a very similar look where
- 12:22Speaker 1: Ohoistate ends up bringing four and the running back does
- 12:25Speaker 1: a really nice job picking up Sunny styles coming right
- 12:27Speaker 1: up the middle. He would have had a clear shot
- 12:29Speaker 1: on the quarterback Mendoza if he had not. And this
- 12:32Speaker 1: is another long shot down the middle of the field.
- 12:34Speaker 1: This one is completed. This was the one one of
- 12:36Speaker 1: the first ones, uh, the first long one to Charlie Becker.
- 12:40Speaker 2: We will get to the.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Other one in just a minute. But another this is
- 12:43Speaker 1: this is in Indiana once again trying to stretch the
- 12:45Speaker 1: field the NCA Ohio state.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Ums. Yeah, exactly so, same same principle, right, like attacking
- 12:50Speaker 2: the seam in these cover two zones. And this again
- 12:55Speaker 2: another same basically same concept right like another sim pressure
- 12:59Speaker 2: or your job up in the boundary end. You're rolling
- 13:01Speaker 2: the coverage. So Lorenzo Styles has to play and you know,
- 13:05Speaker 2: part of it. This is what we talk about like disguise, right,
- 13:08Speaker 2: like the good and the bad disguise, Like they're they're
- 13:09Speaker 2: trying to show cover one here and then drop to
- 13:13Speaker 2: cover two. So Lorenzo Styles has to go from being
- 13:16Speaker 2: over the number two receiver and trips to being the
- 13:19Speaker 2: deep half player. He probably does not need to like
- 13:22Speaker 2: open himself up like to get this with instead like
- 13:26Speaker 2: to stay with it. And I would also say, like,
- 13:29Speaker 2: you know, as good as Caleb Downs is, like nothing's perfect,
- 13:33Speaker 2: he probably could have carried more, got get more depth
- 13:36Speaker 2: of those guys, he kind of gets himself stuck in
- 13:38Speaker 2: no man's lamb. And so they hit this one. So
- 13:41Speaker 2: obviously they were as I said, like you want to
- 13:43Speaker 2: take these these when teams are trying to roll these coverages,
- 13:47Speaker 2: like Indiana is showing a good way to target that
- 13:49Speaker 2: cover two concepts going over the pole runner in Tampa
- 13:54Speaker 2: and uh so they get this one. So as I said,
- 13:56Speaker 2: like you know, it was really just a handful of
- 13:58Speaker 2: place that led to a lot of Indiana's offense and
- 14:03Speaker 2: you know, taking advantage of Ohio States disguise here.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Next one is something we talked about a bunch in
- 14:10Speaker 1: the week leading up to the game, which is watched
- 14:12Speaker 1: those back shoulder throws to Alijah Surat. That was something
- 14:15Speaker 1: that Indiana had really made a lot of hay with
- 14:18Speaker 1: over the course of the of the year, and it
- 14:20Speaker 1: felt like you didn't see it. And I didn't think
- 14:23Speaker 1: you saw as many back shoulder throws as you did
- 14:26Speaker 1: in a lot of other you know, sort of high
- 14:27Speaker 1: profile close games that Indiana had over the course of
- 14:30Speaker 1: the year. But this was a big one. This is
- 14:32Speaker 1: a very high stakes one. This was the only touchdown
- 14:33Speaker 1: of the game for India.
- 14:36Speaker 2: I agree you didn't see as many. And part of
- 14:37Speaker 2: that it's because Ohio State, like you know, does a
- 14:40Speaker 2: good job changing up coverages and you know, are like
- 14:43Speaker 2: pretty effective. And there are various zones except as good
- 14:47Speaker 2: as High State was, and the defense was and has
- 14:51Speaker 2: been as good as a job as Matt Patricia has done.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Like these next two calls I kind of find infuriating
- 14:57Speaker 2: to be honest, Like, for as much as the sky
- 15:00Speaker 2: things and play different zones, like these two are just
- 15:03Speaker 2: like very obvious Cover one, like they're showing Cover one
- 15:08Speaker 2: pre snap, they're running Cover one. Indiana obviously put Sarrat
- 15:12Speaker 2: in the slot, so you got the tach or the
- 15:14Speaker 2: tight end as your number one receiver outside, so you're
- 15:16Speaker 2: trying to get him the slot. And I State does
- 15:18Speaker 2: match personnel wise with Matthews. But I just think it
- 15:23Speaker 2: was just an interesting call. You know, it was more
- 15:26Speaker 2: reminiscent of a Jim Knowles defensive call, to be honest,
- 15:29Speaker 2: like like we saw against Notre Dame last year in
- 15:31Speaker 2: the National Championship game, than what we've seen much from
- 15:33Speaker 2: Matt Patricia this year. So you know, Mendo's at the
- 15:36Speaker 2: snap like he knows he's getting Cover one there, and
- 15:39Speaker 2: so that's why you get that back shoulder throw that
- 15:41Speaker 2: that they had largely prevented. You know, I'm not sure
- 15:43Speaker 2: how much it would have helped, but like it's also
- 15:45Speaker 2: kind of interesting the downs is the is the robber here,
- 15:48Speaker 2: and he's to the single side of the field, like,
- 15:50Speaker 2: not in the middle. So it just sort of, you know,
- 15:55Speaker 2: the better, better offensive call than defensive call here, you know,
- 15:59Speaker 2: with the slot fade to your best receiver with when
- 16:03Speaker 2: you're getting obvious cover one. But it just was an
- 16:05Speaker 2: interesting choice and what it was third and eight here
- 16:07Speaker 2: for a High State to be in that call it again,
- 16:10Speaker 2: like you know, and they only brought three. Obviously they're
- 16:13Speaker 2: doing sort of a double mirror. So those two linebackers,
- 16:16Speaker 2: like I talked about earlier, just just kind of spine.
- 16:20Speaker 2: So like once Mendoza commits, they will but you know,
- 16:22Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard to get pressure anyways when your
- 16:25Speaker 2: quarterback knows he's getting cover one and can throw that
- 16:28Speaker 2: slot fade. But again, it just I thought it was
- 16:31Speaker 2: kind of a curious call and it hasn't really been
- 16:33Speaker 2: at High State's m this year.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And the last one. This is the play that sort
- 16:38Speaker 1: of clinched the game. Didn't exactly clinch game was not
- 16:41Speaker 1: exactly the third and Jeremiah play from the National Championship
- 16:44Speaker 1: Game last year, but it was pretty close. Third and two,
- 16:47Speaker 1: Indiana takes a long shot down the field to Charlie
- 16:50Speaker 1: Becker and just gets just gets a step on Jermaine
- 16:54Speaker 1: Matthews and that was enough.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing right, Like third and six again, this
- 16:59Speaker 2: is like an obvious cover one. Look, they actually have
- 17:02Speaker 2: Caleb Downs as a bracket, so really it's almost cover zero.
- 17:06Speaker 2: You know, they do bring the linebacker and drop k
- 17:11Speaker 2: and Curry out, so you're still only bringing four. Again,
- 17:16Speaker 2: like maybe it's because they weren't particularly effective getting pressure home.
- 17:20Speaker 2: I think styles does almost get there here, you know,
- 17:24Speaker 2: I just think it's harder to ever to get pressure
- 17:26Speaker 2: when you're like obvious in what you're coverage you're gonna
- 17:29Speaker 2: get is And again like in this situation, like I
- 17:32Speaker 2: would have liked to see them either like bring cover zero,
- 17:35Speaker 2: like bring six and force the football out right away
- 17:37Speaker 2: if you're gonna play man or because they don't really
- 17:40Speaker 2: show that at all, or play zone like which has
- 17:42Speaker 2: kind of been their bread and butter, like disguise and zone.
- 17:44Speaker 2: And so again, I just these calls sort of left
- 17:48Speaker 2: me scratching my head. I'm not sure that'll be particularly
- 17:52Speaker 2: representive going forward because and again, like you know, not
- 17:55Speaker 2: to obviously, as we said, when you hold someone the
- 17:57Speaker 2: thirteen points, you should be able to win a football games.
- 18:00Speaker 2: So it's pointing out some of the flaws. But obviously
- 18:03Speaker 2: on a downtown basis, they played well. But I just
- 18:06Speaker 2: I don't think we'll see like this kind of you know,
- 18:08Speaker 2: transparent cover one and third down going forward. Haven't up
- 18:12Speaker 2: to this point.
- 18:13Speaker 1: And then of course this weekend we got Texas A
- 18:15Speaker 1: and M and Miami playing in College Station. I don't
- 18:19Speaker 1: think we've done any kind of a deep dive on
- 18:21Speaker 1: either of those teams just yet. But do you have
- 18:24Speaker 1: any sort of broad thoughts from just whatever you've seen
- 18:27Speaker 1: or whatever you've you know, whatever you've read about about
- 18:30Speaker 1: those two teams, about is one of those maybe a
- 18:33Speaker 1: better matchup for Ohio State than the other? Or is
- 18:36Speaker 1: it is it a little bit, you know, a little
- 18:39Speaker 1: bit situational. I always look at these as you know,
- 18:43Speaker 1: when I went and looked at statistically, there's a lot
- 18:47Speaker 1: of stuff that Miami does that seems like they might
- 18:49Speaker 1: be a more dangerous opponent for Ohio State just than
- 18:52Speaker 1: than Texas A and m is just because their defense
- 18:55Speaker 1: is a little better, their pass rush is better. But
- 18:58Speaker 1: do you look at these two teams and think Ohio
- 19:01Speaker 1: State should really be hoping that they get this team
- 19:03Speaker 1: instead of the other one.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Not yet. I mean I kind of like to see
- 19:08Speaker 2: see how it goes between them. I mean, I agree
- 19:11Speaker 2: with you. Obviously, Miami has two good defensive ends. You know,
- 19:15Speaker 2: we see in Ohio State have some struggles. Although that's
- 19:17Speaker 2: like it's been less with you know, one on one
- 19:20Speaker 2: matchups and more as we said, with like sim pressures
- 19:23Speaker 2: and movement up front. You know, it's even sp plus
- 19:27Speaker 2: and FBI kind of disagree on both of these teams
- 19:30Speaker 2: and like what they're good at or not. You know,
- 19:33Speaker 2: there's quite a bit of discrepancy with particularly with A
- 19:35Speaker 2: and M like how the two those two computers rank them.
- 19:39Speaker 2: But you know, and then I guess you have just
- 19:41Speaker 2: sort of the extraneous factor, which is like the next
- 19:45Speaker 2: you'll be playing in Dallas, and so I guess objectively,
- 19:50Speaker 2: like if those two teams are equal, I'd rather play
- 19:52Speaker 2: if I'm Ohio State, play Miami in Dallas and Texas
- 19:54Speaker 2: A and M in Dallas. You know, we saw the
- 19:56Speaker 2: difficulties with the Silent count having to play Indiana and Indianapolis,
- 20:00Speaker 2: and they had that last year with Texas in Dallas.
- 20:03Speaker 2: So you know, I do think that's kind of a factor.
- 20:06Speaker 2: But both those teams, like, they both have some really
- 20:09Speaker 2: good players, and they've both been pretty inconsistent at times
- 20:14Speaker 2: offensively for sure, So I think, yeah, I can't say
- 20:18Speaker 2: there's like a super strong lean at the moment other
- 20:21Speaker 2: than the home crowd factor might sort of tip I
- 20:24Speaker 2: guess maybe you want to play Miami.
- 20:27Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. We will be watching
- 20:29Speaker 1: that game all this weekend, watching the Aggies and the
- 20:32Speaker 1: Hurricanes playing Saturday at noon, and then once that game
- 20:37Speaker 1: is over, we will know who house date's playing in
- 20:39Speaker 1: the Fiesta bo I'm sorry, in the Cotton Bowl on
- 20:41Speaker 1: New Year's Eve in prime time. And then the winner
- 20:46Speaker 1: of that game, of course then does go on to
- 20:48Speaker 1: the Fiesta Bowl. So we watching that all week long
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