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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast The Guess Who's Back Good Again. Addition,
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Speaker 1: as Joe Burrow returns to practice twelve days before the
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Speaker 1: season opener in Cleveland. Coming up, we'll hear from several
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Speaker 1: teammates on the return of Joey franchise, and I'll talk
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Speaker 1: to the newest Bengals quarterback, Will Greer, who was added
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Speaker 1: to the practice squad after an outstanding preseason with the
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Then I'll be joined by Charles Davis from
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Speaker 1: let's get to the latest news, beginning with the return
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Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow. On Wednesday afternoon, as the Bengals walk
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Speaker 1: toward the practice field, a long line of cameras waited
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Speaker 1: to see if Joe Burrow would be in uniform. Here's
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Speaker 1: rookie receiver andre Yosi Vash.
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Speaker 2: I kind of was wondering what they're out there for
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Speaker 2: that I saw Joe out there, obviously, I was like, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's out there, no sleeve, no nothing, which is really
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Speaker 2: nice to see his will throwing like he like didn't
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Speaker 2: even miss a beat. So you know, they're obviously teaming
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Speaker 2: the slow with him still, but it's nice to see
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Speaker 2: him still slinging the ball. Like like how he used to.
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Speaker 1: Burrow's return was not necessarily anticipated by his teammates, including
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase found out when.
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Speaker 3: I got on the field. Matter of fact, I found
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Speaker 3: out when I watched him put his gear on. I
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Speaker 3: was like, what's he doing?
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Speaker 1: Were you concerned that he would try to come back
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Speaker 1: too fast?
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Speaker 4: Tell?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I told him, don't come until we
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Speaker 3: fought him, Like, I don't want you back until you
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Speaker 3: know you're ready.
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Speaker 5: I mean, he looked good. You know, I didn't see
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Speaker 5: no hobble or nothing.
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Speaker 3: Only I didn't see really much. And then again I
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Speaker 3: did not paying attention to him as much. But for
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Speaker 3: what I see, you know, he looks good. He doesn't
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Speaker 3: look like he's having probaball here or nothing. So that's
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Speaker 3: a good sign.
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Speaker 1: Burrow's return brought a sigh of relief to Bengals fans
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Speaker 1: and changed the energy at practice. Here are Yo, Si
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Speaker 1: Batch and veterans safety Mike Thomas.
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Speaker 5: It was nice.
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Speaker 2: You can deminitely feel his vibe out there, and he's
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Speaker 2: already you know, not critiquing, but give you need tips.
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Speaker 2: You know, watching me, I took a go route, you know,
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Speaker 2: I thought I could win inside leverage I did, but
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Speaker 2: he's like, you know, if you go outside, there's more
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Speaker 2: places where I can.
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Speaker 5: Throw the ball. And so it's just even just little.
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Speaker 2: Things like that that you hear from the starting quarterback
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Speaker 2: make you no, I always want to play football.
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Speaker 5: He kind of gives you more energy.
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Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: It kind of brings more life to the team.
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Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna talk too much about it, but
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Speaker 6: I think it was a whole different vibe than all
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Speaker 6: the training camp. I don't think he threw an incomplete
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Speaker 6: fast today, so I mean it was fun.
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Speaker 1: Joe's return came one day shy of five weeks after
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Speaker 1: he suffered his calf strain, and while he was gone,
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Speaker 1: his teammates wanted to make sure they didn't miss a beat.
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Speaker 1: Here are Ted Karras and t Higgins.
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Speaker 7: He looks like Joe, and he's been doing a great
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Speaker 7: job in grinding camp. You know, my main goal was
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Speaker 7: just had the on line unit cleaned up and polished
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Speaker 7: and ready to go, so you can just plug himself
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Speaker 7: in and pick up right where he left off.
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Speaker 8: I definitely feel like a gay of guy some extra juice,
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Speaker 8: you know, just to go out there and just show
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Speaker 8: him that that We've been working hard, even though he's
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Speaker 8: been getting treated up. You know, he wanted to show
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Speaker 8: him that there's nothing we ain't leave off nothing. You know,
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Speaker 8: we still sat spy. We was when when he first
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Speaker 8: got hurt.
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Speaker 1: So the media was only allowed to watch the first
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Speaker 1: thirty minutes of practice, but according to Higgins and others,
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Speaker 1: Burrow's best pass was a perfectly thrown bomb to rookie
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Speaker 1: Charlie Jones.
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Speaker 9: Just a deep ball to left us, a go ball
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Speaker 9: right on the money.
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Speaker 10: Didn't even have to adjust to it.
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Speaker 8: So it was definitely good to see him out there
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Speaker 8: and definitely good to get a replica.
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Speaker 1: Burrow was not the only Bengal who returned from injury.
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Speaker 1: Running Back Trayvon Williams was also back on the field
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Speaker 1: after missing nearly a month with an ankle spraying.
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Speaker 9: It was amazing, you know, like I said, you know,
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Speaker 9: I've been in there for thirty days, but Joe's been.
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Speaker 5: In there alongside with me.
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Speaker 9: So just being able to be alongside him to see,
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Speaker 9: you know, the path that he's taking to get to
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Speaker 9: where he's at right now as well. You know, you know,
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Speaker 9: of course, you know I was came back, but I
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Speaker 9: was excited just as much for.
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Speaker 5: Him too, because you know, he's ahead of the spirit
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Speaker 5: for us.
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Speaker 9: You know, he's an amazing guy, and he's gonna help us,
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Speaker 9: you know, make the Super Bowl push. So I'm excited
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Speaker 9: to be be back out there with him.
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Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster is announced. Practice squad players
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Speaker 1: can be elevated to the roster up to three times
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Speaker 1: during the regular season, and last year Trenton Irwin, Caladamitas
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Speaker 1: and Drew Chrisman started the season on the practice squad
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Speaker 1: and wound up playing huge roles. The practice squad can
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Speaker 1: include up to six veteran players, and for the Bengals
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Speaker 1: this year, it includes the oldest player on the team,
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Speaker 1: thirty three year old safety and special teams ACE Mike Thomas.
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Speaker 6: I appreciate the Bengals, our coaching staff. I mean, he
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Speaker 6: was just transparent and honest about the whole situation and
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Speaker 6: now understood my robe. So great to be bet. Get
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Speaker 6: to help my young dudes out, you know, continue to
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Speaker 6: in this game, and then I gotta stay ready if
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Speaker 6: opportunity to us himself. But at this point, you know,
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Speaker 6: being on a team like this, being around this locker room,
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Speaker 6: these guys, I mean to still be around and to
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Speaker 6: still be able to help.
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Speaker 5: Them out and grow.
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Speaker 6: Like that's why I want to be in.
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Speaker 1: This point in my career with standard elevations from the
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Speaker 1: practice guad. You know, at some point you're gonna play.
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Speaker 6: This shit absolutely man and uh again standard That's been
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Speaker 6: my whole career. So mentally that's that Point's fine. But
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Speaker 6: at the same time, helping these young guys understand, looking,
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Speaker 6: don't look for three one to speak. You step up,
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Speaker 6: You be a leader, even somebody you your bets, you
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Speaker 6: step up you you need.
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Speaker 5: But for me, like you.
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Speaker 6: Said, the fact that we negotiated in our CBA for
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Speaker 6: standard elevations, actually so many bits you know, around and
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Speaker 6: extending their careers. So I'll be ready whenever that comes here.
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Speaker 5: With the business.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the.
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Speaker 6: Day, the fact that they kept oh uncle Michael Brown
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Speaker 6: and I gotta roll with this to wan, I can
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Speaker 6: help these young guys, you know, like to start off
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Speaker 6: their career behind note, giving them all the game that
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Speaker 6: I can.
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a blessing for me.
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Speaker 1: I know, the organization is really hopeful that you would
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Speaker 1: accept a spot on the practice squad. Was there any
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Speaker 1: hesitation in your life here?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 6: I mean I told you they were very transparent from
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Speaker 6: me for a long time about what was gonna captain right,
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Speaker 6: and I can only appreciate them for that because a
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Speaker 6: lot of times you don't get that information right. And
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Speaker 6: I told them honestly from my standfield, unless a team
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Speaker 6: came and signed into that fifty durn Ross, I'm not
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Speaker 6: doing a lateral move to go to somebody else practice squad.
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Speaker 6: And you'll hope we get brought up. They were interests, but.
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Speaker 5: I got told everyone I'm not going to nobody else
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Speaker 5: but say this is where I want to get.
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Speaker 1: start of OTAs, but a notable exception is quarterback Will Greer.
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Speaker 1: The former West Virginia Mountaineer Star, was the Cowboys number
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Speaker 1: three quarterback behind Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush before Dallas
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Speaker 1: made that trade with San Francisco for former number one
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Speaker 1: draft pick Trey Lance. Greer was told before the Cowboys
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Speaker 1: final preseason game that he was going to be cut,
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Speaker 1: but he decided to play anyway, and he had a
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Speaker 1: great game, passing for three hundred and five yards and
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and running for fifty three yards and two
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Speaker 1: more tds in the Cowboys thirty one to sixteen win.
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Speaker 10: At the end of the day, it was just it
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Speaker 10: came down to the one play football or not play football,
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Speaker 10: and I just said I'm gonna go play put a
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Speaker 10: lot into it, so I felt good about the offense
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Speaker 10: and knew that I could go put good tape out.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 10: At the end of the day, it just made it simple. So, yeah,
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Speaker 10: I'm gonna go play.
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Speaker 1: What appealed about this opportunity, I.
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Speaker 10: Think the just the amount of the coaches, the quarterback
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Speaker 10: experience in this building, being able to play with Joe Burrow,
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Speaker 10: some of these the weapons we have. A big part
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Speaker 10: for me was being on a team, but like a
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Speaker 10: creditive teams and somebody that you know, had talent and
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Speaker 10: was you know, a Super Bowl contender if you will,
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Speaker 10: which clearly this place is, and that's that was a
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Speaker 10: big part of the decision.
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Speaker 1: What were the last couple of days, Like, was it
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Speaker 1: a whirlwind fielding calls from a bunch of teams?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was.
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Speaker 2: It was.
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Speaker 10: It was weird you being in that position, definitely, you know,
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Speaker 10: fielding calls and just trying to find the right fit.
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Speaker 10: It was the first time I've gotten to like choose
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Speaker 10: rather than being chosen. So it's a weird process. But uh,
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Speaker 10: my agent did a great job. And at the end
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Speaker 10: of the day, like I said, I wanted to go
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Speaker 10: to a place that I had a chance to go
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Speaker 10: win it all. Coming from a place like Dallas that
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Speaker 10: we were, you know, building to go win it all,
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Speaker 10: I wanted to go somewhere else with that same vision
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Speaker 10: and same ability, and this place definitely has.
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Speaker 1: A So you had great stats passing and rushing this preseason.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are playing the best ball
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Speaker 1: of your life?
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 10: I think I got a lot more to give. But
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Speaker 10: I think as you the longer you play in the NFL,
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Speaker 10: the better you get with everything. And I definitely feel
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Speaker 10: like I'm chrending upwards and continuing to get better. And
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Speaker 10: this place was a place I felt like I was
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Speaker 10: going to continue to get pushed and developed.
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Speaker 1: We're not far from where you start in college. Is
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Speaker 1: there kind of a nice feeling to be back in
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Speaker 1: the Midwest where things went so well?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, No, it's crazy. I didn't realize how close it
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Speaker 10: was to Morgantown. It's awesome and definitely just excited.
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Speaker 6: To be here.
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm not wrong here. You look a little sleepy.
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Speaker 1: Has it been like, you know, restless, last forty eight.
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Speaker 5: Hours or whatever?
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Speaker 10: No doubt it definitely has. It was up early this
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Speaker 10: morning to get here in time to get the physicals
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Speaker 10: and all that done to be able to practice. I'll
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Speaker 10: sleep good at night.
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Speaker 2: We'll catch up.
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Speaker 6: We'll be fine here.
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Speaker 1: Greer was originally a third round draft picked by the
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Speaker 1: Panthers in twenty nineteen and started two games as a rookie,
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Speaker 1: but he suffered a foot injury in the second quarter
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Speaker 1: let's start with the Bengals leader, Joe Burrow. He was
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Speaker 1: back at practice twelve days before the season opener. In
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Speaker 1: your opinion, is that enough time for Joe to be
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Speaker 1: fully ready for that game?
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Speaker 4: Dan, you remember last year we were going through something
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Speaker 4: similar with a different type of ailment, all right, and
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Speaker 4: that ailment I felt like, said it back a little
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Speaker 4: bit more.
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Speaker 5: Even though it's legs, it's feed, it's all this.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't feel the same because that torque of throwing
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Speaker 4: when you have the epidect me and everything else that
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Speaker 4: goes along with it, and then you can't.
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Speaker 5: Do anything at all.
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Speaker 4: See I think with the leg I didn't you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, won't play one on TV. But
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Speaker 4: I think that overall he was able to get a
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Speaker 4: lot of workouts in. I think he's been moving around
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Speaker 4: more than people think. Bottom line is I just think
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Speaker 4: that everything's gonna be okay.
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Speaker 5: He went through it last year.
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Speaker 4: Dan didn't feel quite himself, didn't play to his normal
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Speaker 4: level in the open against Pittsburgh. It's nothing like experience
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Speaker 4: is they're having gone through it before knowing what to expect.
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Speaker 4: I expect to see much more of the Joe Burrow
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Speaker 4: we're used to seeing come the opener at Cleveland.
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Speaker 1: What do you admire and respect about him going into
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Speaker 1: year four?
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Speaker 4: Dan, He's the same guy every time I meet him.
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Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure what your assessment would be because
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Speaker 4: you're around him even more than we are. But what
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Speaker 4: I like about him is he's very true to being
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. And when you meet people, sometimes there's one
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Speaker 4: persona versus another. After a win, after a long. Sometimes
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Speaker 4: it's depending on the time of year. Sometimes it's depending
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Speaker 4: on how they're playing. I could not tell you what
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Speaker 4: his stats were the previous week. I couldn't tell you
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Speaker 4: if they won or lost the previous week. I can't
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Speaker 4: tell you anything based on each meeting with Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure Ian Eagle and Evan Washburn would
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Speaker 4: back me up on this. You walk into the room,
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Speaker 4: or he walks in, if you're already there for your meeting.
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Speaker 5: He says hello. He's very polite.
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Speaker 4: He greets everyone that is in the room, not just
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Speaker 4: you know, the announcers, if the producers in the room,
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Speaker 4: the directors in the room, if someone else happens to
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Speaker 4: be there, he greets them with a hello. He sits
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Speaker 4: down and tell me if this is your experience, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
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Speaker 5: He sits down and that's it. That look is go yeah,
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Speaker 5: and you know, a lot of chitchat not his thing.
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Speaker 5: But he's not rude. But if you're gonna waste his
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Speaker 5: time with chitchat, he's not gonna be there that it's
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Speaker 5: going to be. Ask your questions, let's go, and again,
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Speaker 5: not rude, but very to the point. Here we go.
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Speaker 4: Off we go and then he's back to the business
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Speaker 4: to tront who win games for Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: And that is my experience as well. You described it
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Speaker 1: very well. We're chatting with Charles Davis. The Bengals have
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Speaker 1: the big three back and wide receiver, Chase Higgins and Boyd.
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Speaker 1: They've got Joe Mixon back and running back. They do
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Speaker 1: have a newcomer in the mix though, and tight end,
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Speaker 1: Irv Smith Junior. What do you think of Irv and
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Speaker 1: how important is the tight end in the Bengals offense.
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Speaker 4: Well, they've worked around the tight end to an extent
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Speaker 4: for time. C j Uzama had a big year and
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Speaker 4: parlayed that into a free agent contract with the Jets.
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Speaker 4: My experience with the Bengals and what I think about
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Speaker 4: how they want to run offense. If the tight end
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Speaker 4: is there and available, they're going to utilize it.
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Speaker 5: I thought the second.
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Speaker 4: Half of last year hayden Hurst got utilized more as
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Speaker 4: he got more comfortable and became that guy. Remember that's
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Speaker 4: why hayten Hurst was drafted in the first round in the
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Speaker 4: first place by Baltimore to catch passes and be that guy.
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Speaker 4: If they can get the earth Smith Junior that came
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Speaker 4: out of Alabama, that explosive youngster that we saw make plays.
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Speaker 4: If they're getting him in Cincinnati, Oh, he has no
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Speaker 4: worry about being utilized. Joe Burrow knows how to spread
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Speaker 4: the ball around and you want to go cover the
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Speaker 4: other three. That's cool.
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Speaker 5: I got another guy I can move the ball to.
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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of if Erthsmith stays healthy and
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Speaker 4: if he's the guy that we saw coming out of college,
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Speaker 4: because he just didn't stay healthy in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: Last year, the Bengals went into the season with four
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Speaker 1: new starting offensive linemen. This year, it's only one, and
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Speaker 1: he's a four time Pro Bowler. Orlando Brown Junior. Is
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Speaker 1: this the year that the Bengals offensive line becomes known
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Speaker 1: as his strength?
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Speaker 4: I think so, because I think that they've taken care
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Speaker 4: of all they needed to prior to this last move
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Speaker 4: you just described.
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Speaker 5: Now, the kicker to the move is Orlando Brown Junior.
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Speaker 4: Coming in at left tackle, and Jonah Williams said, hold
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Speaker 4: on a second, that's my spot. And of course there's
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Speaker 4: a little bit of a how do we say it,
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Speaker 4: kerf fluffel in the beginning, and you remember Jonah Williams
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Speaker 4: hurt feelings, wanted to stay at left tackle. There's a
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Speaker 4: pride factor in that. You know, that's where he's played
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Speaker 4: his entire career. Very few times I think Dan to
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Speaker 4: actually get one right. But when it first happened and
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Speaker 4: Jonah said, well I want to be traded, get me
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Speaker 4: out of here, I never bought into it.
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Speaker 5: I never once did. I just said, he's got hurt feelings.
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Speaker 4: I get it he wants to stay where he is,
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Speaker 4: but I think he's going to look around and realize
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Speaker 4: just moving to right tackle, even though it's tough playing
16:39
Speaker 4: on this team, in this offense, with this group, with
16:41
Speaker 4: a chance to go to the super Bowl, I think
16:43
Speaker 4: over time it will it will dissipate, and it has
16:46
Speaker 4: and that's been a good thing for them.
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Speaker 1: Let's turn the defense with Charles Davis. You played safety
16:52
Speaker 1: in the SEC at Tennessee. How big of a deal
16:55
Speaker 1: is the loss of Jesse Bates and Von Bell, particularly
16:59
Speaker 1: early in this season.
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Speaker 5: It's a big loss.
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Speaker 4: I don't think we can downplay it, and you're right
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Speaker 4: about particularly early, because once it's for real and everything
17:08
Speaker 4: starts to move really fast, that one adjustment that's not
17:12
Speaker 4: made in the back end of the secondary that Jesse
17:14
Speaker 4: Bates or von Bell would have made with the rest
17:16
Speaker 4: of the secondary also turns into a big play because
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Speaker 4: someone runs free. That tackling that von Bell provided in
17:24
Speaker 4: the middle of that defense, or coming up off the
17:26
Speaker 4: edge when he dropped down the ball. Howking that Jesse
17:29
Speaker 4: Bates provided as being a center field type of a
17:32
Speaker 4: free safety back there in full experience, it's a.
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Speaker 5: Big deal early. Now do they have people.
17:37
Speaker 4: Athletically that can replace them, certainly, but it's also the
17:42
Speaker 4: leadership aspect, the tone von Bell set, the moment he
17:46
Speaker 4: got to Cincinnati where everybody's ended up buying in pretty quickly.
17:50
Speaker 4: All those things have to be replaced as well. And
17:53
Speaker 4: lou Annarumo is the defensive mastermind. He needs these guys
17:57
Speaker 4: on point. He may have to be a little more
18:00
Speaker 4: vanilla early just to make sure they have their feet
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Speaker 4: under them.
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Speaker 1: The illusions, as we say, with lou Ana Roumo Charles,
18:08
Speaker 1: a lot of us thought he'd be gone, thought he
18:10
Speaker 1: would get a head coaching job this offseason. Did you
18:12
Speaker 1: think that was going to happen? And what is it
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Speaker 1: about lou that makes him one of the best defensive
18:17
Speaker 1: coordinators in the league.
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Speaker 4: One I thought it should have happened. Okay, and it
18:22
Speaker 4: should have happened a couple of years ago. But every
18:25
Speaker 4: time he doesn't get one of these jobs short of
18:29
Speaker 4: him saying that's not the job for me, I'm wondering
18:33
Speaker 4: what's going on with those organizations. And I know this
18:36
Speaker 4: scene seems really strong to say, but I wonder about
18:40
Speaker 4: hiring around the league, and I would sit with anyone
18:43
Speaker 4: and happily have them educate me on what they're looking
18:46
Speaker 4: for in a head coach.
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Speaker 5: Are you looking listen? We went the Oh Wow, he
18:50
Speaker 5: calls really good ball.
18:51
Speaker 4: Plays with Cliff Kingsbury and Arizona, and I like Cliff.
18:55
Speaker 4: I covered him in college. I would hope that he
18:58
Speaker 4: would consider me a friendly person with him, whether he
19:01
Speaker 4: considered me a friend or not. But I questioned it
19:03
Speaker 4: from day one, and I'd be happy to say it,
19:06
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 5: This is why we're hiring him? That makes no sense
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Speaker 5: to me.
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Speaker 4: I want to know that you're hiring someone who can
19:13
Speaker 4: command the room, command the respect of the ball club,
19:16
Speaker 4: follow what you're trying to get done, and be there
19:19
Speaker 4: to handle all the adult decisions that have to be made.
19:22
Speaker 4: If that's not Louanna Room, I don't know who else
19:24
Speaker 4: that is as soon as he walks in the room.
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Speaker 5: The respect is there. The guys want to play for him.
19:31
Speaker 4: I've not met anyone that doesn't enjoy ultimately playing for Louanna.
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Speaker 5: Room. Are there some tough moments? Well?
19:37
Speaker 4: When are there? Not the guy who has his name
19:40
Speaker 4: on the trophy that they all play for, Lobardi Trophy.
19:44
Speaker 4: He was not exactly a shrinking violet and what exactly? Hey,
19:47
Speaker 4: come give me a hug every day. But guess what
19:50
Speaker 4: those guys would have killed for him and those who
19:53
Speaker 4: remain on this earth.
19:55
Speaker 5: I met one of them. You know what he told me, Dan, I.
19:58
Speaker 4: Don't think of my father every day, who's been on
20:00
Speaker 4: twenty five years, but I think of Lombardi every single.
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Speaker 5: One in my life.
20:04
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. So the season begins in Cleveland against
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Speaker 1: the Browns, and Browns went seven and ten last year,
20:11
Speaker 1: but they didn't have Deshaun Watson for the first eleven
20:13
Speaker 1: games of the season. What are your expectations for the
20:17
Speaker 1: Browns quarterback now that he's had a normal training camp
20:20
Speaker 1: and gets to start from week one.
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Speaker 4: My expectations are exactly what the Browns are and what
20:25
Speaker 4: the Browns actually expect. Twenty twenty Deshaun Watson. That's what
20:31
Speaker 4: they have to have because that's who they signed. That's
20:33
Speaker 4: who they they they brought in. That's who they said, Okay,
20:37
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty six million dollars guaranteed, that's the
20:39
Speaker 4: guy we're getting.
20:40
Speaker 5: Well, we all know what has happened since that time frame.
20:43
Speaker 5: We've had the holdout, we've had the.
20:45
Speaker 4: Off field issues, the legal issues, the suspension for eleven
20:49
Speaker 4: games last year, which made their season a rap before
20:51
Speaker 4: they ever kicked the football off, even though they played
20:53
Speaker 4: hard and did the best they could for Jacoby Brissett,
20:56
Speaker 4: it's not the three and three Deshaun Watson. And I
20:59
Speaker 4: hate doing that by record. If like starting pitchers is
21:02
Speaker 4: not the same for quarterbacks. But still they went three
21:05
Speaker 4: and three with him down to stretch. But he wasn't
21:06
Speaker 4: the Deshaun Watson that we expected. Well, Danny, when you're
21:10
Speaker 4: suspended eleven games, you can't be around the facility. What
21:13
Speaker 4: in the first ten weeks of the season. Yeah, I
21:15
Speaker 4: mean you can't be around you can't build anything. He's
21:18
Speaker 4: had a off season now, he's had OTA's mini camps,
21:24
Speaker 4: summer training. He's spending that time. The receivers are spending
21:29
Speaker 4: time with him. I think now it's a reasonable expectation
21:34
Speaker 4: to think that we start to see more of the
21:36
Speaker 4: twenty twenty Deshaun Watson, especially with that offensive line, because
21:39
Speaker 4: that's a good offensive line. And I think now this
21:43
Speaker 4: is a roster that for once we're looking at Cleveland
21:47
Speaker 4: and probably more of what we say twice in the
21:49
Speaker 4: last three years that we think, huh, better be careful
21:53
Speaker 4: with these Browns.
21:54
Speaker 5: This is a good ball club.
21:55
Speaker 4: When people are picking Pittsburgh to finish behind them, that
21:59
Speaker 4: tells you to respect They're starting to engender there.
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Speaker 5: Plus, it feels like there's an urgency in Cleveland.
22:04
Speaker 4: Did they guy to get back to the playoffs, which
22:06
Speaker 4: they did during the COVID year of twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: Charles, Bengals fans love it when you and Ian call
22:12
Speaker 1: Cincinnati games. We look forward to seeing you in Cleveland
22:15
Speaker 1: and hopefully many times throughout the course of this season.
22:17
Speaker 6: Thanks for your time.
22:19
Speaker 5: Can't wait to see you in Cleveland. Dan, you take
22:21
Speaker 5: care of yourself and travel safely.
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