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Episode #3955 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive April 2006 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Hi, it's Phil Hendry with another Radio Archive Hour from
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Phil Hendry Radio Show and philhendryshow.com
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Speaker 1: and also the good people at iHeart Podcast. Now, we
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Speaker 1: have Herb Sewell with us. As you know, Herb Sewell
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Speaker 1: was inside a forensic hospital, which is essentially a hospital
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Speaker 1: for the criminally insane, and he was there for a
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Speaker 1: long time because he committed sex acts against a variety
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Speaker 1: of people, shall we say. Herb finally got out, and
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Speaker 1: with all this frustration he says he has and that
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Speaker 1: other sex offenders have, they want the right to be
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Speaker 1: able to ram the back end of people's cars or
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Speaker 1: rear end people. And when the people get out of
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Speaker 1: the car, they'll see there's a big red ball sticker
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Speaker 1: on the front of the guy's car.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a sex offender. He gets to vent.
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Speaker 1: And they apply to the state of California for the
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Speaker 1: insurance money instead of the sex offenders. So people contribute
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Speaker 1: to a fund. Sex offenders get to get their anger
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Speaker 1: out by rear ending people. And the state pays for it.
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Speaker 1: I think I got that right. Here is Herb Sewell.
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Speaker 1: He's just begging to get his ass kicked. I think
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Speaker 1: that's the best The best description. Here's the guy begging
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Speaker 1: to get his ass kicked, Herb Sewell. Herb Sewell is
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Speaker 1: joining me this hour for a discussion of people who
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Speaker 1: are released from custody as sex offenders, go to a
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Speaker 1: halfway house, and are under the constant pressure of a
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Speaker 1: society that still doesn't trust them.
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Speaker 2: How do they vent their frustration? Mr.
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Speaker 1: Sewell was involved in a meeting recently in the San
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Speaker 1: Francisco area on the idea of controlled road rage.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that in just a moment.
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Speaker 1: If you'll hang on, Herb, I know you're in the
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Speaker 1: car right now heading there.
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Speaker 3: I am, Phil. I'm probably about 40 miles south of
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Speaker 3: the San Jose metropolitan area. And we're going to be
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Speaker 3: meeting with a number of men that I had been
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Speaker 3: in a taskadero with. One was Richard Lantana. The other one,
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Speaker 3: Calvin Dokes. I don't know if these names mean anything
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Speaker 3: to you, but they are very prominent, notorious pedophiles that
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Speaker 3: were incarcerated at Tascadero the time I was there.
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Speaker 1: All right, but I want to remind people that we
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Speaker 1: are going to have a live chat, the Phil Henry
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Speaker 1: Show chat, on SweetFeatheryJesus.com. SweetFeatheryJesus.com, a live chat, Monday night,
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Speaker 1: right after the show. So that will be happening around
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Speaker 1: 10 p.m. Monday night, 10 p.m. Pacific, March 13th. And
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm giving you guys the information you need there.
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Speaker 1: It's sweetfeatheryjesus.com. A live chat following our broadcast Monday night.
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Speaker 1: That will be 10 p.m.
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Speaker 2: Pacific.
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Speaker 1: So I guess that's going to blow some people's minds, right?
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Speaker 1: If I say 1 a.m. Eastern, but then that would
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Speaker 1: be like 1 a.m.
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Speaker 3: That would be on March the 14th.
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Speaker 2: That's true. It would be March the 14th. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk here, Herb. Road rage is a
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Speaker 2: psychiatric illness as well, isn't it?
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Speaker 3: Road rage is a treatable psychiatric illness, Phil. And I
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Speaker 3: was incarcerated for some very terrible things that I did.
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Speaker 3: Some very terrible things.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's be very clear. Violence against women and children, correct?
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Speaker 3: That is correct, yes.
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Speaker 2: And including sex crimes against children.
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Speaker 3: That is correct, yes. And I was incarcerated at a
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Speaker 3: forensic hospital in a task of terror. Now, fortunately for me,
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Speaker 3: I was treated by some very good people. And I've
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Speaker 3: been able to continue my life without these criminal inclinations.
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Speaker 3: But it is not easy being a reformed sex offender.
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Speaker 3: Society at large does not recognize that a sex offender
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Speaker 3: can be reformed. And so every day, in addition to
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Speaker 3: trying to live, you are subjected to discriminatory behavior. The
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Speaker 3: lady that you were talking with earlier, Phil, She was
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Speaker 3: talking about, I believe, putting pictures of you on the Internet.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's an example of the kind of
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Speaker 3: excess that the Internet is involved in right now. We
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Speaker 3: have these websites that seem to get their jollies putting
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Speaker 3: the pictures of sex offenders on there.
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Speaker 2: Hold on for a minute, man.
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Speaker 1: Those pictures are there and those descriptions of those men
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Speaker 1: are there. so as to warn the community.
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Speaker 3: I understand that, but there's a flip side to the coin.
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Speaker 3: There's another side to what you're talking about. You know,
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Speaker 3: as they say, every dog has his day. But when
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Speaker 3: you are involved in the constant harassment of men who
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Speaker 3: have done their time in prison and are now out
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Speaker 3: trying to work their lives out in a halfway house
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Speaker 3: and you are parading up and down the street in
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Speaker 3: front of their homes and ordering them out of neighborhoods,
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Speaker 3: you are creating a level of anger in that man.
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Speaker 1: All right, now how does this controlled road rage, what
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Speaker 1: are you talking about when you say using road rage
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Speaker 1: as a way of expressing your frustration?
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't call it road rage because it's not
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Speaker 3: a rageful thing. It is venting, and that's what we've
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Speaker 3: been discussing on our Saturday meetings.
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Speaker 1: Now, these meetings, if I could ask you, are former
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Speaker 1: sex offenders?
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Speaker 3: That is correct, yes.
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Speaker 2: And they're now at a halfway house. Is there a
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Speaker 2: doctor there or a counselor there at these meetings?
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Speaker 3: Well, no, these are more informal groups that I've put together.
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Speaker 3: Some amazing rehabilitated people. Rich Lantana, who was a very
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Speaker 3: sick and twisted man at one time, who has been helped.
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Speaker 3: He is part of the meeting. Calvin Dopes. These names
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Speaker 3: may not mean anything, but these people are sort of.
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Speaker 3: If you'll forgive me, they're sort of superstars in the
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Speaker 3: world of pedophilia. They're really very, very, they're real different.
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Speaker 3: Calvin Dobes, Bill Danbury. Bill Danbury is probably one of
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Speaker 3: the more distinguished group of former pedophiles.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean a distinguished group of pedophiles?
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Speaker 3: No, what I'm saying is in the world of pedophilia,
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Speaker 3: these men....
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Speaker 2: You use the word superstar.
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Speaker 3: Well, they're real pedophiles. There's some very twisted behavior there.
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Speaker 2: Are these men out of prison?
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Speaker 3: No, they're rehabilitated, but at the time... At the time,
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Speaker 3: it was a fairly distinguished... Not distinguished, but they were...
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Speaker 3: They were a real pantheon, I would say. But they
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Speaker 3: are leading productive lives now.
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Speaker 2: All right, so these men are not offending anymore?
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Speaker 3: Not at all.
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Speaker 2: Now, how long have these men been out of prison?
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Speaker 3: Well, anywhere from six months to 12 months or even
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Speaker 3: a year and a half. And I brought up that
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Speaker 3: we need to be able to express our anger of
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Speaker 3: being treated badly by society. And I use the term
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Speaker 3: controlled civil disobedience.
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Speaker 1: And this takes the form of incidents in traffic or
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Speaker 1: controlled road rage.
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Speaker 3: Why? Because the highway... The roadway is a highly charged
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Speaker 3: place emotionally, and a message sent there is recorded at
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Speaker 3: a very deep level in people. If you think about it,
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Speaker 3: when you have an incident in traffic, whether it's anger
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Speaker 3: or frustration, you remember it for a long time. It
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Speaker 3: is the place in life where we come into the
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Speaker 3: most volatile contact with each other. And so what I said...
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Speaker 3: was this. You have to understand the pressure that released pedophiles,
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Speaker 3: sex offenders who are living in society are under. If
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Speaker 3: we can be allowed on some level to drive, and
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Speaker 3: this is tough for people to understand, but to drive
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Speaker 3: in a more erratic way than others, and we could
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Speaker 3: have this accomplished And I think the society would approve.
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Speaker 3: If we are given some kind of a sticker, it
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Speaker 3: doesn't say sex offender on it, but it is a
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Speaker 3: red round sticker which is placed on the front left
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Speaker 3: of the windshield. A police officer sees that and can
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Speaker 3: run a traffic brake or can otherwise clear traffic away
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Speaker 3: so that a sex offender who is having to deal
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Speaker 3: with the discrimination society can drive in a more erratic way.
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Speaker 3: and that may even involve bumping someone from behind.
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Speaker 2: What are the insurance companies going to say about that?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's not going to... I don't know. It's something
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Speaker 3: we have to work out. But if I ram a
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Speaker 3: car from behind because I've just been told I have
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Speaker 3: to move from my fifth residence after leaving prison, I'm
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Speaker 3: sure you've got to understand that I've got to do
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Speaker 3: something to vent my frustration. And I saw an elderly
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Speaker 3: woman who reminded me so much of Mother... who, as
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Speaker 3: you know, Phil, is one of the reasons why I've
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Speaker 3: had problems. I wanted to floor it right into the
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Speaker 3: back of her car, but I can't do that. Why?
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Speaker 3: Because it's against the law. If we can do some
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Speaker 3: kind of control thing, I.
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Speaker 2: Think it'd be wonderful.
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Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686. On the line with me is Herb Sewell,
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Speaker 1: a released pedophile. He's in prison eight years, is now
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Speaker 1: out at a halfway house, and wants to be able
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Speaker 1: to drive aggressively. following too close, German breaking people, flipping
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Speaker 1: them off, bumping them from behind. Herb, the question that
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Speaker 1: I have is simply this. If you see me and
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Speaker 1: you're angry at me because you are having a tough life,
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Speaker 1: being released from prison after charges of child molestation, and
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Speaker 1: you ram my car from behind, who's going.
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Speaker 2: To pay for that?
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Speaker 3: I think it can be worked out. A consortium of
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Speaker 3: insurance companies, along with some creative legislation... can create a
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Speaker 3: general fund, and that is a pool, an insurance pool,
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Speaker 3: whereby individuals who have been incarcerated for sex offenses and
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Speaker 3: are subsequent to their release involved in a minor, minor
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Speaker 3: traffic accident, the state pool then pays for it. And therefore,
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Speaker 3: the driver is not involved.
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Speaker 1: But the state money is coming from tax.
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Speaker 2: Money, right?
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Speaker 3: Well, it can be a cooperative way. You can do
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Speaker 3: a restaurant tax. You can do a hotel tax. You
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Speaker 3: can do a cigarette tax. You can do a tax
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Speaker 3: on liquor, a tax on gas. It doesn't have to
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Speaker 3: come out of income tax. And this pool of money
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Speaker 3: is then used to pay off the damages. So you say,
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Speaker 3: what happens if I'm in my car and I've just
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Speaker 3: been released from prison and I can't get a job
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Speaker 3: because I'm a sex offender and I'm angry, so I
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Speaker 3: ram the back of your car? You apply... to the
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Speaker 3: state of California in this case. to the state of
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Speaker 3: California general sex offender fund, for the money to pay
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Speaker 3: for this.
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Speaker 1: And I have to apply for it.
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Speaker 3: You would have to apply for it because it's your car.
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Speaker 3: I mean, what are you asking?
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Speaker 2: I'm asking if you ram my car.
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Speaker 1: Why don't you apply to the state of California to
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Speaker 1: get the money for my car?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much to apply. It's
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Speaker 3: better taken care of by you. I'm not going to
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Speaker 3: take care of your car as well as you are.
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Speaker 3: I just rammed it. In other words, I don't care
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Speaker 3: about you or your car. I am a recently released
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Speaker 3: sex offender who is so frustrated at seeing his face
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Speaker 3: on the Internet. You know, see, why do I care
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Speaker 3: about you or your life?
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Speaker 1: Well, why do I care about you or your life, man?
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Speaker 1: You offended against society. You molested children. You went into prison.
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Speaker 3: And now I am out of prison trying to lead
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Speaker 3: a constructive life. And yet people are harassing me into
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Speaker 3: wanting to return to prison. See right there? People don't
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Speaker 3: think about that. All they think about is let's get
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Speaker 3: the pervert out of our neighborhood. Well, that's fine. But
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Speaker 3: my anger is going to cause me to want to.
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Speaker 3: Just drive right through a bus stop. Have you ever
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Speaker 3: seen people standing at a bus stop? Suppose I just,
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Speaker 3: even at eight miles an hour, you can do a
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Speaker 3: lot of damage driving just right through a bus stop.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. I want to be
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Speaker 3: able to have a general fund set up so that
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Speaker 3: if I ram someone from behind or I sideswipe someone,
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Speaker 3: you know, the state of California can take care of that.
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Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686. Herb Sewell, recently released sex offender. Jenna,
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Speaker 1: you're on The Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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Speaker 3: You know what, dude?
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Speaker 5: I think that society has given you enough of a
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Speaker 5: break by.
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Speaker 3: Letting you live. Well, first of all, justice calls for murder,
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Speaker 3: capital punishment. But I didn't commit murder. You know what?
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Speaker 6: Justice is my act.
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Speaker 5: I think your act should be getting rammed from behind
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Speaker 5: in prison.
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Speaker 7: That's right.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's very funny. The point is, if
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Speaker 3: I'm out of prison, And now they're asking me to
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Speaker 3: live a constructive life and not offend. And yet they
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Speaker 3: won't let me get a job or live in a
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Speaker 3: certain neighborhood. That's not right. That's against the Constitution of
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Speaker 3: the United States of America.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think the damage you've done to children is going.
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Speaker 3: To affect them for the rest of your life. Well,
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Speaker 3: that's what you think, but we have to deal with
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Speaker 3: the reality, not what you think, but what the world
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Speaker 3: is doing right now, too. And I'm saying that if
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Speaker 3: I'm following someone and I sideswipe someone, then I ought
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Speaker 3: to be allowed to do that.
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Speaker 7: Like you, for instance.
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Speaker 3: See, I'm angry because I can't get a job, and
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Speaker 3: I see you, and I know you're the person I
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Speaker 3: talked to on the phone who said that I should
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Speaker 3: have died. My instinct is to sideswipe you.
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Speaker 5: Well, my instinct is for people that touch small children that...
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Speaker 5: not list. That's my instinct, but those are my values.
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Speaker 3: Right, but I'm working to.
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Speaker 5: You deserve some kind.
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Speaker 4: Of cosmic reward for.
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Speaker 3: I'm working to implement my beliefs. What are you doing
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Speaker 3: to implement your beliefs? You see? They see that's the
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Speaker 3: difference between you and me.
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Speaker 1: You know what?
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Speaker 5: I'm not your judge.
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Speaker 7: I'm not your.
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Speaker 5: Judge, but I'm just saying bicycle. And if you think.
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Speaker 7: You're going to get some cosmic reward for trying to.
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Speaker 5: You're riding on a bicycle?
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Speaker 3: What did the lady say? She's riding a bicycle?
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Speaker 2: No, we didn't hear you, Jenna.
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Speaker 7: What?
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Speaker 5: Riding a bicycle. No, I don't know what he's talking about,
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Speaker 5: but I think that if you said.
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Speaker 3: That you're right now, you're riding a bicycle.
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Speaker 5: Living a better life now, then I have to wait
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Speaker 5: until I get to heaven. You know, wait until something else.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't understand the lady.
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Speaker 2: All right, Jenna, thank you for... She said that you
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Speaker 2: are going to be ultimately judged in heaven.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Jenna, I don't know that I necessarily
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Speaker 3: subscribe to the concept of God, but maybe God does exist.
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Speaker 3: But there's only one way to find out, and that's
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Speaker 3: when we die. And until then... We're on my time. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Thank you, Jenna.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449- Why the pause?
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Speaker 2: Because I heard that we're on my time. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Herb Sewell, recently released from the Atascadero Forensic Hospital for
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Speaker 1: crimes against women and children, including sex offenses. Eight years
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Speaker 1: he spent there, including electroshock, insulin shock, and a variety
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Speaker 1: of of treatments.
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Speaker 2: Mr.
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Speaker 1: Sewell is now out and in society, but he says
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Speaker 1: that it's very difficult to make it in this world.
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Speaker 1: Every ex-convict, every ex-prisoner or someone who is remanded to
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Speaker 1: the penal system is now released.
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Speaker 2: They find it hard, and Mr.
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Speaker 1: Sewell is finding it difficult, but he feels the frustration
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Speaker 1: is doubly so for sex offenders, and so they want
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Speaker 1: to create a general fund of money so that when
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Speaker 1: a sex offender, if he rams your car from behind,
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Speaker 1: sideswipes you, or otherwise does damage to your car on
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Speaker 1: the freeway, the taxpayers pay for it because his anger
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Speaker 1: is somehow the responsibility of society. There you have it
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Speaker 1: in a nutshell, folks. The Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 2: Phil Hendry Show. Pull your head out of your ass.
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Speaker 2: Plug into the world.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Herb Sewell joins us on his way to San Francisco
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Speaker 1: for a meeting of Mr.
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Speaker 2: Sewell, I've got to tell you, it disturbs me.
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Speaker 1: You are a sex offender now out and in society,
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Speaker 1: I understand, and you're rehabilitated. You describe these men as
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Speaker 1: a distinguished group of former pedophiles.
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Speaker 3: Now, Phil, you have to understand, and forgive me, it
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Speaker 3: was an unfortunate choice, but at the time that I
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Speaker 3: was offending, I was in touch with Calvin Doak's Bill
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Speaker 3: Danbury and this group. These people were considered... How do
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Speaker 3: I say this? They were considered to be state-of-the-art.
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Speaker 1: State-of-the-art child molesters? How could you even use a phrase
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Speaker 1: like that, a term like state-of-the-art?
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Speaker 3: You have to understand, Phil, that in the world of
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Speaker 3: the pedophile, as in every world, I don't care if
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Speaker 3: you sell ice cream, I don't care if you sell cars,
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Speaker 3: if you're a burglar. You have your megastars. Bill Danbury
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Speaker 3: is legendary. He is.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean legendary, man?
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Speaker 1: You guys get together over coffee and talk about how, wow,
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Speaker 1: this guy is just amazing?
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Speaker 3: At the time, we did. But what I'm saying to
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Speaker 3: you now is these men are out, they are rehabilitated,
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Speaker 3: leading productive lives, and we want to get together and
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Speaker 3: we want to get a working plan for this general
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Speaker 3: insurance fund so that as former sex offenders... We are
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Speaker 3: able to vent on a freeway, and if there is
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Speaker 3: damage to another car, that somehow the state of California
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Speaker 3: can pay for that. Otherwise, we are on our way
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Speaker 3: to a pedophile apocalypse, and I can tell you that.
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Speaker 2: Well, what is that supposed to mean? What is that
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Speaker 2: supposed to mean?
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Speaker 3: I'm saying it's just that the pressure we're living under
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Speaker 3: is all. We've got to vent somehow, or there may
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Speaker 3: be an explosion of... All of a sudden, just an explosion...
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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying of children being molested, but I
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Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know. I just don't know. All
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Speaker 3: I know is I'm scared. I'm scared and I want
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Speaker 3: to do something about it. You know, I just... All right,
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Speaker 3: hold on. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Let me talk to Chris. You're on the Phil Hendry
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Speaker 2: Show with Herb Sewell.
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Speaker 8: Hey, how's it going? You know, I think this guy's
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Speaker 8: got the right idea. I think he needs to have
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Speaker 8: some type of identification on the car. that lets people
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Speaker 8: know that they're a pedophile and they're upset. That way,
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Speaker 8: it gives me an opportunity to identify who I need
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Speaker 8: to eliminate with a bullet in the head. That way,
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Speaker 8: he has no worries. He has no problems. He doesn't
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Speaker 8: have to be worried about aggressive or be upset. He's dead.
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Speaker 3: You think very highly of your ability to do those
17:52
Speaker 3: types of things, do you? I know someone in prison
17:55
Speaker 3: right now. It's my friend Walter Bellinghaven. And Walter's amazing because...
17:59
Speaker 3: He killed two men who had him, they had him drawn,
18:03
Speaker 3: they had drawn guns on him. Both men died, and
18:06
Speaker 3: he killed them both with his bare hands.
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Speaker 7: Well, I tell you what, if you had selected my daughter.
18:12
Speaker 8: You probably would have never made it to trial, you know.
18:14
Speaker 8: It's not something that I can just go out and kill.
18:16
Speaker 7: A man, but if you had selected somebody in my family.
18:18
Speaker 3: I would put an RPG on him. There would be
18:21
Speaker 3: an issue.
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Speaker 2: All right, hold on, gentlemen, because you're talking over each other.
18:23
Speaker 3: No, I want to say that Walter Belhaven, a man
18:24
Speaker 3: pulled an RPG on him, and Walter... Wrapped the thing
18:27
Speaker 3: around his neck.
18:27
Speaker 1: All right, what is that supposed to mean? What are
18:30
Speaker 1: we talking about here? This man is saying you put
18:32
Speaker 1: a red ball, as you said, a sticker on your car. Oh,
18:35
Speaker 1: there's a child molester.
18:37
Speaker 3: It's not going to say, hi, I'm a child molester.
18:40
Speaker 3: It's simply an identifier for the highway patrol.
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Speaker 6: Jesus.
18:45
Speaker 3: That's good.
18:46
Speaker 8: At least they'll be able to identify your body, and
18:47
Speaker 8: they should be able to pull your records up and
18:49
Speaker 8: identify you when you're sitting off the side of the
18:51
Speaker 8: road with part of your face shot off. It'll be
18:53
Speaker 8: easy for them.
18:54
Speaker 3: To identify you. Well, you know, Chris, I'm glad you
18:55
Speaker 3: carry a gun because you probably need it, if you
18:58
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Well, yeah.
19:00
Speaker 8: Don't let me creep up behind you, though.
19:05
Speaker 3: I would need it, yes. There are people, though, who
19:07
Speaker 3: will take it away from you. You know that, don't you?
19:09
Speaker 7: Well, I wouldn't use it on everybody.
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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, thank you very much. Walter Belhaven would rip his
19:16
Speaker 3: throat out and feed it to him, and he'd smile
19:19
Speaker 3: and ask for seconds.
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Speaker 1: Okay, look, I'm sorry that that call got on, but
19:25
Speaker 1: the point is people are angry, and they don't feel
19:29
Speaker 1: that they should pay for your venting.
19:32
Speaker 2: You're upset. You need treatment.
19:35
Speaker 1: If you are a man who has received treatment and
19:37
Speaker 1: you say you're rehabilitated, Herb, which I believe you are, yeah,
19:41
Speaker 1: life is unfair. But a violent response to the discrimination
19:46
Speaker 1: that you are experiencing is only going.
19:49
Speaker 2: To to incur that in others, right?
19:51
Speaker 3: Oh, Phil, you know, you sound... Listen, when African Americans
19:56
Speaker 3: couldn't get their rights, they rioted. Why can't I?
19:58
Speaker 1: Now, how dare you compare yourself to black people or
20:01
Speaker 1: any minority in gaining rights? You were a criminal. You
20:05
Speaker 1: molested children.
20:06
Speaker 3: Wait a minute. When Black Creek, didn't they riot to
20:08
Speaker 3: get their rights?
20:09
Speaker 1: There was a lot of things that a lot of
20:10
Speaker 1: people did to express frustration and dissatisfaction.
20:14
Speaker 3: I'm simply saying, that guy Chris, oh man, you know what,
20:19
Speaker 3: I think I'll put a call into Walter Belhaven. Walter
20:22
Speaker 3: has said to me, if anybody pisses you off, could
20:24
Speaker 3: you just... Hold on for a minute.
20:26
Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686, Phil Hendry Show. The Phil Hendry Show, 1-800-449-8686. Hey,
20:29
Speaker 2: Jack Ball, it's entertainment.
20:37
Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686.
20:37
Speaker 2: And now more on the Phil Hendry Show.
20:55
Speaker 1: Former sex offenders should be allowed some form of road
20:58
Speaker 1: rage to vent frustration at being discriminated against in society.
21:03
Speaker 1: What kind of road rage are we talking about? I
21:05
Speaker 1: want you to be specific. You mentioned side-swiping, and you
21:08
Speaker 1: mentioned rear-ending somebody.
21:09
Speaker 2: What else?
21:10
Speaker 3: Well, Phil, again, you have to remember that we are
21:16
Speaker 3: talking about a general pool whereby the taxpayer in the
21:20
Speaker 3: state of California or any state in the United States
21:24
Speaker 3: will put into a general pool of funds that can
21:26
Speaker 3: pay the insurance costs of any damage done to a car.
21:28
Speaker 3: But I'm talking of simply, if I come out of
21:34
Speaker 3: a job interview, and I have been told, Mr. Sewell,
21:41
Speaker 3: your name and your image appears on a website devoted
21:44
Speaker 3: to sex offenders, and he says, I can't hire you
21:48
Speaker 3: as a result of that, And I walk out of
21:51
Speaker 3: that interview into a parking lot, and there parked in
21:54
Speaker 3: front of me are the cars of people who are
21:55
Speaker 3: gainfully employed, just as I would like to be. And yet,
21:59
Speaker 3: and they're driving almost as if they're throwing it in
22:02
Speaker 3: my face, they're driving BMWs. This smartass that was out
22:08
Speaker 3: on PCH the other week, they got a Ferrari. I
22:11
Speaker 3: want to be able to do something with that anger.
22:15
Speaker 3: And a baseball bat, a crowbar, a rock, a key,
22:24
Speaker 3: to be able to damage a car, not a person,
22:29
Speaker 3: a car.
22:29
Speaker 2: So my Jaguar is sitting there, let's say.
22:32
Speaker 3: You own a Jaguar?
22:33
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, sir. Yes, I do. I own a Jaguar.
22:36
Speaker 1: I own a nice-looking Jaguar, as a matter of fact.
22:38
Speaker 1: And you come out and you bust out the front
22:41
Speaker 1: headlights of my car. Then I'm supposed to, then you say,
22:45
Speaker 1: what happens then?
22:45
Speaker 3: Well, then a police report is filed. and I identify
22:49
Speaker 3: myself as a sex offender, and the police are going
22:51
Speaker 3: to double-check that, and then the police issue you a voucher,
22:56
Speaker 3: which you take to your insurance company, and the insurance
22:59
Speaker 3: company then goes through the state of California, reimburses you,
23:01
Speaker 3: and your automobile is repaired. It's a very simple process.
23:04
Speaker 1: That's time out of my life, because you busted out
23:07
Speaker 1: the headlights on my car.
23:08
Speaker 2: I've got to go to my insurance company. I've got
23:10
Speaker 2: to walk.
23:11
Speaker 3: Phil, it is a very small price to pay for
23:14
Speaker 3: the fact that I am out... And what am I
23:18
Speaker 3: supposed to do now? I devoted a great long... It's
23:22
Speaker 3: not what I'm supposed to do now.
23:24
Speaker 2: Get a job, man. Become gainfully employed. And if you
23:27
Speaker 2: get hassled, you get hassled. It's wrong. I don't agree.
23:31
Speaker 2: But you're not going to take it out on my car.
23:33
Speaker 3: Well, it's better I take it out on your car
23:35
Speaker 3: than on your kid.
23:36
Speaker 2: And what is that supposed to mean?
23:38
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. You know, forget it. It's... You know,
23:44
Speaker 3: when I say... I was talking to Bill Danbury, who's...
23:47
Speaker 3: very highly respected and highly noted pedophile.
23:49
Speaker 2: And there you go again with that highly respected and
23:51
Speaker 2: highly noted.
23:52
Speaker 3: You know, it's a language that we speak. It doesn't
23:55
Speaker 3: mean the man's a good man. I'm just saying in
23:57
Speaker 3: the sick and twisted world of pedophiles, Bill Danbury was
24:01
Speaker 3: the paradigm. He was, he's who you would talk to.
24:05
Speaker 3: He's who you'd call if you needed advice, if you
24:08
Speaker 3: needed it.
24:09
Speaker 1: But what do you guys got, like a regular freaking
24:11
Speaker 1: support group when you were actively offending against children?
24:15
Speaker 3: No, you're not understanding me.
24:17
Speaker 1: Well, you're not putting it in a very clear way.
24:20
Speaker 1: He's the guy you went to for advice. It was
24:22
Speaker 1: almost as if the guy's a guru.
24:23
Speaker 3: Well, again, in that world, he was a guru. In
24:28
Speaker 3: that world, Bill Danbury was the man. I mean, you
24:32
Speaker 3: could talk about, well, I caught myself a 12-year-old the
24:34
Speaker 3: other day, but Danbury, I mean, that was a typical
24:36
Speaker 3: hour for him.
24:40
Speaker 2: And this guy went to a psychiatric hospital and got out?
24:44
Speaker 3: He was rehabilitated.
24:48
Speaker 2: 1-800-44... I wish you would do me a favor, Mr. Sewell,
24:51
Speaker 2: if you don't mind.
24:53
Speaker 1: I would like you not to refer to these people
24:57
Speaker 1: as you did this guy, Calvin Dukes, as a distinguished pedophile.
25:04
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
25:07
Speaker 2: Here is Amber. Amber, go ahead.
25:09
Speaker 7: I guess, sir, if I'd like to, I was just wondering,
25:13
Speaker 7: didn't you know the consequences of your actions when you
25:17
Speaker 7: molested this child or children, and you knew when you
25:21
Speaker 7: got out of prison that your face would be on
25:24
Speaker 7: the Internet or on mailings?
25:26
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know there'd be people standing out in
25:28
Speaker 3: front of my house demanding that I move. And I
25:34
Speaker 3: can't get out of my driveway because some fat housewife
25:37
Speaker 3: who's bored with her life, decides she's going to stand
25:39
Speaker 3: in front of my driveway with a sign that says,
25:41
Speaker 3: sex offender out. Well, that's good for her.
25:43
Speaker 7: So just because you molested a child, you are now
25:46
Speaker 7: rewarded with the fact that you get to rear in
25:49
Speaker 7: people because you're angry?
25:50
Speaker 3: Please understand.
25:51
Speaker 7: I'm angry.
25:52
Speaker 3: I didn't molest just a child. I committed acts of
25:54
Speaker 3: violence against over 150 women and children. And you sound proud.
25:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you proud of that?
25:59
Speaker 3: No, but I mean, I want the lady to understand
26:01
Speaker 3: what she's dealing with here. I'm not just some fruit
26:04
Speaker 3: standing at a newsstand. And what makes you.
26:07
Speaker 7: Say you're not going to take your anger out on.
26:09
Speaker 3: A child later on? Walter Belhaven, they haven't found the
26:13
Speaker 3: people that Walter Belhaven killed. I don't even know who
26:16
Speaker 3: you're talking about. Walter Belhaven is a serial murderer who
26:20
Speaker 3: is now incarcerated for life. And they still haven't found
26:24
Speaker 3: the bones. They haven't found all the pieces of one
26:27
Speaker 3: of his victims.
26:28
Speaker 2: Will you let this lady finish, please, Herb?
26:30
Speaker 3: Forgive me, but the lady asked me a question.
26:32
Speaker 2: I know, but you're dominating the conversation. Go ahead, Amber.
26:36
Speaker 7: Okay, what.
26:37
Speaker 3: In 1963, what were you just.
26:40
Speaker 7: What makes you say that you will not take your
26:42
Speaker 7: anger out on a child ten years down the road
26:45
Speaker 7: after you get tired of rear-ending these people, this special
26:49
Speaker 7: privilege that you get all of a sudden?
26:51
Speaker 3: Well, it's not something you get tired of. You're just
26:53
Speaker 3: not going to get tired of that. Had I been able...
26:58
Speaker 3: And I realize that it is an unusual solution, but
27:01
Speaker 3: had I been able.
27:02
Speaker 7: There should be no solution to it at all.
27:05
Speaker 3: Had I been able to.
27:06
Speaker 7: You should deal with the consequences for the rest of
27:09
Speaker 7: your life.
27:10
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, Amber. Let me ask you.
27:12
Speaker 3: This is a very good question. If it's the difference
27:15
Speaker 3: between me molesting a child or slapping you around for
27:17
Speaker 3: an hour, which would you choose?
27:19
Speaker 7: You go to a therapist and talk your anger out?
27:22
Speaker 3: I'm asking her. If it came down to that, what
27:25
Speaker 3: would she choose?
27:26
Speaker 7: Well, of course, logic would say I'd rather you slap me,
27:29
Speaker 7: but you have a third option.
27:30
Speaker 3: For a solid hour?
27:31
Speaker 7: You've got to talk to a therapist and talk your
27:33
Speaker 7: anger out.
27:33
Speaker 2: See, Herb, you're angry right now, aren't you?
27:36
Speaker 7: Well, I'm very angry, and I'm driving, but I'm not
27:39
Speaker 7: rear-ending people.
27:40
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking to Herb. You're angry right now, talking
27:42
Speaker 1: about slapping this lady around.
27:44
Speaker 3: I don't want to slap her around. I want to
27:45
Speaker 3: do something to vet my frustration. I'd rather take... I'd
27:49
Speaker 3: rather take a 2x4 and push it through the driver's
27:54
Speaker 3: side window. Anything.
27:56
Speaker 7: Why would you even want to do that?
27:58
Speaker 3: Because I can't get a job. I can't live anywhere
28:00
Speaker 3: for more than two weeks. No, it's against the law
28:03
Speaker 3: to harass a man.
28:03
Speaker 7: It was against the law to molest a child.
28:05
Speaker 3: And I went to jail for it. Now, who puts
28:08
Speaker 3: a person in jail that is harassing me out of
28:10
Speaker 3: my home every two weeks? Who puts that? Who puts
28:12
Speaker 3: the fat housewife in flip-flops, in the flip-flops and.
28:16
Speaker 7: The sweatpants and the curlers?
28:18
Speaker 3: You just put a label.
28:20
Speaker 7: On a fat housewife. We put labels on you, child molester.
28:23
Speaker 3: All right, fine. I paid my... When is the fat
28:26
Speaker 3: housewife going to pay her dues? When is society finally
28:29
Speaker 3: going to look at her?
28:30
Speaker 7: He pays her dues every day by somebody calling her
28:31
Speaker 7: a fat housewife.
28:32
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. That's not even close to the
28:34
Speaker 3: dues she's paying.
28:35
Speaker 7: Yes, it is.
28:35
Speaker 3: When is society going to... He labeled her with labeled Jews.
28:38
Speaker 3: I would like to know, Amber. When is society finally
28:40
Speaker 3: going to deal with these fat women who ignore their
28:43
Speaker 3: heaviness by standing in front of my house?
28:47
Speaker 2: What are you kidding, right?
28:47
Speaker 7: When is this society... We are dealing with the child molesters.
28:51
Speaker 3: Right, and I'm dealing... And I'm dealing with... Right, and
28:55
Speaker 3: I'm dealing with a lard-ass standing in front of my
28:57
Speaker 3: driveway with a sign that says, child molester out.
28:59
Speaker 7: Well, then that's just what you're going to have to
29:01
Speaker 7: deal with. It's like what we have to deal with
29:03
Speaker 7: with child molesters when.
29:04
Speaker 3: It comes to our children.
29:06
Speaker 7: Did you expect to get a job at a daycare
29:08
Speaker 7: when you got out of prison?
29:09
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, Amber. This is a
29:10
Speaker 3: fair question. How about if you put my face on
29:12
Speaker 3: the Internet, why don't I put your big, fat, dimpled
29:15
Speaker 3: ass on the Internet? What do you think of that?
29:17
Speaker 2: Well, would you please talk with a little bit of
29:18
Speaker 2: respect to my callers?
29:20
Speaker 3: I'm the one.
29:20
Speaker 7: I'm the one who said one cuss word.
29:22
Speaker 3: I'm the one who's being nasty. And I got plenty.
29:24
Speaker 7: In my opinion, they should have chopped your shit off and.
29:27
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, we just see
29:29
Speaker 2: she just said the S word.
29:30
Speaker 3: Well, you're not blaming me for that, are you? You know,
29:33
Speaker 3: she's the one.
29:34
Speaker 2: You said, how about we put your fat, dimpled ass
29:36
Speaker 2: on the Internet?
29:37
Speaker 3: Well, they got my face on the Internet. Why can't
29:39
Speaker 3: I put... Why is it that I have to... Forget it.
29:42
Speaker 3: You know, I am so frustrated.
29:45
Speaker 1: Your frustration comes from your inability to articulate logically this
29:49
Speaker 1: jackass idea of getting an insurance fund... so that if
29:53
Speaker 1: I'm a pederast and I'm upset, I can go out
29:55
Speaker 1: and I can bang somebody's car up with a freaking
29:57
Speaker 1: crowbar and have him pay for it through a... And
30:00
Speaker 1: that lady was saying she's angry.
30:02
Speaker 3: Well, she may be angry, but she can vent it
30:05
Speaker 3: by eating, and no one says anything about it. You
30:08
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying? You see the difference? She goes
30:11
Speaker 3: out and buys box after box after box of Bisquick.
30:16
Speaker 3: She goes home with a couple of gallons of milk.
30:18
Speaker 3: All right, enough said. She sits down and begins to prepare...
30:22
Speaker 3: Endless supplies of waffle mix. And from 10 o'clock in
30:26
Speaker 3: the morning until probably about 2.45, before she has to
30:28
Speaker 3: go pick the children up from school, she is working
30:31
Speaker 3: that waffle iron as if she is pulling down the
30:34
Speaker 3: handle on a slot machine. Just one waffle after the next.
30:38
Speaker 3: And now a man comes home, a man who works hard.
30:41
Speaker 3: And what does he find when he comes home? A
30:44
Speaker 3: woman laying on a couch with residual syrup on each
30:47
Speaker 3: side of her face and a fork in her hand.
30:51
Speaker 3: And I find it wrong. And I'm here to say
30:54
Speaker 3: something about it.
30:57
Speaker 1: Herb, if that woman's eating too much, she's doing it
31:00
Speaker 1: to herself. She's not smashing up somebody's car. Take a
31:03
Speaker 1: break and get back to more of your phone calls.
31:04
Speaker 3: Oh, so you get the last word, is that it?
31:07
Speaker 3: I like that.
31:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. They're good. Good boy, you got it.
31:09
Speaker 2: I get the last word right. I'm the host.
31:12
Speaker 1: I get the last word, baby. Back with Herb Sewell,
31:15
Speaker 1: a woman works a waffle iron like she's pulling the
31:18
Speaker 1: handle on a slot machine.
31:21
Speaker 2: It's a Phil Hendry show.
31:23
Speaker 3: Phil Hendry.
31:23
Speaker 6: 1-800-449-8686.
31:23
Speaker 2: Show me where it.
31:25
Speaker 3: Says bone smoker in the Constitution.
31:30
Speaker 6: 1-800-449-8686.
31:31
Speaker 2: The Phil Hendry show is back. You threatened that guy.
31:33
Speaker 3: I did not threaten him. He threatened me.
31:35
Speaker 1: Well, that caller we had last half hour, we're back
31:37
Speaker 1: on the Phil Hendry show with Herb Sewell.
31:39
Speaker 2: Mr.
31:39
Speaker 1: Sewell spent eight years in a psychiatric forensic hospital because
31:46
Speaker 1: of sex crimes.
31:48
Speaker 2: The gentleman said that he'd shoot you. You're right. The
31:50
Speaker 2: caller last half hour?
31:51
Speaker 3: He said that he would blow half of my head off. Now,
31:54
Speaker 3: let me explain something, Phil, if I could. You know,
31:59
Speaker 3: when you threaten someone with violence, remember that I was
32:02
Speaker 3: in prison because of violent acts. And I have nothing,
32:07
Speaker 3: at that time in my life, I had nothing to lose. Now,
32:09
Speaker 3: I've got everything to lose. But if someone's going to
32:13
Speaker 3: threaten me with violence, you know, I certainly have to.
32:17
Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt anyone.
32:20
Speaker 2: If that man pulls a gun on you, how are
32:21
Speaker 2: you going to stop that?
32:23
Speaker 3: Well, there comes a point, because of the kind of
32:26
Speaker 3: person I am, I don't really care. See, if you
32:31
Speaker 3: don't have any real concern for your own well-being, and
32:34
Speaker 3: you become quite mad, you know, and I am, on
32:37
Speaker 3: some level, quite mad, then it doesn't matter to me
32:41
Speaker 3: whether he has a gun or not. I'm going to
32:43
Speaker 3: have to deal with him, you know. And I can
32:47
Speaker 3: tell you this much, Phil, when I deal with someone,
32:49
Speaker 3: It's years before they find the body. When Walter Belhaven
32:53
Speaker 3: deals with someone, it's years before they find the body.
32:56
Speaker 3: When Randall Toomey deals with someone, they never find the
33:00
Speaker 3: body because it's generally fed to the fish.
33:03
Speaker 1: All right, I know all about you sick and twisted bastards.
33:05
Speaker 1: I got your whole resume here. The man was angry
33:09
Speaker 1: because a child molester going down the road with a
33:11
Speaker 1: red ball sticker on the front of his car, which
33:13
Speaker 1: means he gets to rear-end people.
33:16
Speaker 2: It's just about the living end, man.
33:19
Speaker 1: Now you're going to get to smash my car up,
33:21
Speaker 1: and the state of California pays for it because you're frustrated.
33:24
Speaker 1: Some fat woman with a dimpled ass is in front
33:26
Speaker 1: of your driveway with a sign that says, Child molester, leave.
33:29
Speaker 3: You got it. There you go. You just summed the
33:30
Speaker 3: whole thing up. I needn't say anything more. You're right.
33:33
Speaker 3: Nothing is more infuriating to me than a woman in
33:36
Speaker 3: hot pink sweatpants, flip-flops, and a T-shirt that says the
33:39
Speaker 3: Bob and Tom show on it. And she's got a
33:42
Speaker 3: sign that says, Child molester, out. And all I want
33:45
Speaker 3: to do is look around for my barbecue fork. And
33:48
Speaker 3: that's all I'm going to say about that.
33:51
Speaker 2: So violence is not too far from your reality. Okay.
33:54
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
33:54
Speaker 2: No, you did. You said that.
33:56
Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686.
33:56
Speaker 2: Here is Sarah. Go ahead, Sarah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wanted to say something. What about all those victims?
34:06
Speaker 6: What about the people and those women and those children
34:09
Speaker 6: that were victimized and harassed? by this man, shouldn't they.
34:14
Speaker 3: I went to prison for it.
34:15
Speaker 7: I've already been in prison for it.
34:17
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, that's fine, whatever, but shouldn't they get a special...
34:22
Speaker 6: Shouldn't they get a special treatment, too? Shouldn't they get
34:25
Speaker 6: some type of fund so they could also.
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Speaker 7: Rear-end... Because they're angry, too.
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Speaker 3: Because they're angry, too. No, no, no, no. What special
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Speaker 3: treatment are you getting? They were harassed by people like you.
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Speaker 3: They get to go on Good Morning America.
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Speaker 6: But disgusting people like you.
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Speaker 3: Now, you have to understand. Don't you get to go
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Speaker 3: on Good Morning America, too?
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Speaker 6: Don't you get to go?
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Speaker 7: I don't get to go on, no.
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Speaker 6: Those people.
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Speaker 3: Are you trying to tell me that the Phil Henry
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Speaker 3: show is the same as Good Morning America? I'd rather
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Speaker 3: be on Good Morning America. Those people.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean, Good Morning America?
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Speaker 6: Who cares about being... Why would.
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Speaker 7: I don't want to be.
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Speaker 3: Do you want to be on Good Morning America?
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Speaker 6: I would rather lead a normal life without being harassed.
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Speaker 3: And those people be.
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Speaker 6: More deserving of having such a fun to rear-end others
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Speaker 6: because they're so mad. I would rather have them rear-end
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Speaker 6: me than a disgusting child molester like you.
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Speaker 3: You want to be rear-ended, huh?
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Speaker 6: No, I don't, but if I were to be rear-ended,
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Speaker 6: I would rather be rear-ended by a victim than by
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Speaker 6: somebody like you. So I think that those people.
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Speaker 3: Deserve more than you. If you get rear-ended by someone.
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Speaker 6: What are you wearing?
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Speaker 3: When you get rear-ended by someone, what are you generally wearing?
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Speaker 2: The lady has her radio turned up.
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Speaker 3: God dang it.
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Speaker 2: I got to take a break.
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Speaker 6: What am I normally wearing? What kind of stupid question
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Speaker 6: is that?
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Speaker 3: Well, you're the one with your radio turned up when
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Speaker 3: the guy told you to turn it down. Ooh, three points,
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Speaker 3: top of the arc. We'll take this break for Budweiser Lite. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'll run the show, not you.
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Speaker 3: She's got her radio turned up. Why don't you tell
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Speaker 3: her to turn it down, the dumb B-I-T-C?
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Speaker 2: All right, hold on.
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Speaker 3: Phil henry show the phil henry show stepping over the
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Speaker 3: line naked but sean astin's turned.
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Speaker 1: Into a fat slob all right let me take one
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Speaker 1: more call that's got nothing to do with anything laurie
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Speaker 1: go ahead you're on the phil.
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Speaker 2: Henry show.
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Speaker 4: Laurie yes i'd like to say that rehabilitation involves remorse
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Speaker 4: and humility and you keep saying that you're rehabilitated but
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Speaker 4: i i see none of this or hear none of
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Speaker 4: this in your.
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Speaker 3: Voice what do you mean uh remorse.
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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you be saying on air how sorry that
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Speaker 4: you are for the people that you've harmed?
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Speaker 3: I did it years in air. I have electroshock, insulin shock.
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Speaker 3: I was subjected to... You know, there are other people
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Speaker 3: that ought to apologize. Sean Astin for his fat ass
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Speaker 3: on TV.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mr. Astin's our union president. Shut up, Herb.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, the world-famous Phil Henry Show is executive produced by
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Speaker 3: You talking to me?
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Speaker 7: Yes.