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Johnny Gosch Is Alive... And A Gay Male Prostitute?! · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gangsta too, and it takes me to
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  Speaker 4: Time at the rodeo. Hello and welcome back to the show, everyone.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for being here. Thanks for being born. Thank you
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  Speaker 4: for being listeners and supporters of the Cosmic Peach Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Got something pretty mind-blowing on the agenda today. At least
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  Speaker 4: my mind and taint was completely blown out by the
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  Speaker 4: time I got done researching this topic. But before we
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  Speaker 4: just go tits deep into today's topic of the hour,
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  Speaker 4: have a few shout outs here. The first one is
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  Speaker 4: going to come from Heidi. What's up, girl? She said,
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  Speaker 4: your hair looks amazing. God bless you. And while you
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  Speaker 4: are beautiful, it pales in comparison to your humor and personality.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan. Well, Again, God bless you, Heidi.
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  Speaker 4: You are, you're one of the sweetest women I've ever known.
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  Speaker 4: And for that, I applaud you. And again, thank you
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  Speaker 4: so much. I like to do a little something with
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  Speaker 4: myself every now and again. Because on the days I record,
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  Speaker 4: I actually try to wash my hair and style it,
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  Speaker 4: do a little makeup. Because the next two, three days
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  Speaker 4: after that, All's I need is a paper bag and
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  Speaker 4: standing by the side of the road for people to
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  Speaker 4: throw change at me. This is all for you. Don't
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  Speaker 4: you forget it. The next shout out is to Jennifer. Jennifer,
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  Speaker 4: you know who you are. She sent me an email titled,
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  Speaker 4: Dating Sucks. And I just wanted to read it to you.
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  Speaker 4: Hope you don't mind. Jennifer, it was a good email.
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  Speaker 4: She said, Hey girl, I absolutely love your podcast and
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  Speaker 4: was catching up on an old episode. Heard your tragic
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  Speaker 4: date story on Carl and the corpse. You kill me.
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  Speaker 4: And I completely get it. Unfortunately, I've been divorced for
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  Speaker 4: years and broke off an engagement after that. Not gonna
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  Speaker 4: say I'm planning to die alone, but all signs are
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  Speaker 4: pointing that way. God bless you. Same here. I think
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  Speaker 4: the internet, online dating, then COVID destroyed the collective ability
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  Speaker 4: to create relationships. Plus, men have been emasculated and alpha females,
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  Speaker 4: which no man wants, are currently dominant in the workforce
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  Speaker 4: and society, except in positions of actual power. Abso-fucking-lutely, Jennifer,
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  Speaker 4: you nailed it. The only women who find and keep
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  Speaker 4: a man are needy, codependent, borderline personality disorder, etc. Men
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  Speaker 4: are highly attracted to this type because they can be
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  Speaker 4: Captain Save-A-Ho.
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  Speaker 5: Ha!
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  Speaker 4: Makes their penis grow one to three inches. Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: And the drama gives an adrenaline rush trauma bond. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: This is so true. Not being a hater, just my
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  Speaker 4: observations from the trenches. I'm a Detroit probation officer.
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  Speaker 5: Shh.
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  Speaker 4: Anywho, you're the best and I'm on the same page
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  Speaker 4: as you other than loving cats. LOL. Take care, Jen. Jen,
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  Speaker 4: I'd probably like your cats. But here's the thing. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like if I met you in person, Jen,
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  Speaker 4: we'd have a lifelong friendship. Because just I can tell
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  Speaker 4: by your personality in the email, your punctuation, and your
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  Speaker 4: wonderful jokes that we'd be the best of friends. Here's
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  Speaker 4: the thing. And I'm not going to tangent too far
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  Speaker 4: off or anything. I just thought it was an excellent email.
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  Speaker 4: And she makes a lot of good points. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: She says, men have been emasculated in alpha females who
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  Speaker 4: no man wants are currently dominant. Now, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't particularly, I actually don't like at
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  Speaker 4: all to be in my masculine energy. Everybody has a
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  Speaker 4: masculine and a feminine side. That's just, that's just biology.
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  Speaker 4: That's just spiritual. That's just polarity. That's just human nature.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody has a little bit of a more masculine and
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  Speaker 4: feminine side. But I actually hate to be in my
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  Speaker 4: masculine energy. It's just the type of relationships I get
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  Speaker 4: in force me into that role. Because the person I'm
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  Speaker 4: with is in their feminine energy. And I don't want to...
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  Speaker 4: There's a difference between being motherly, okay, nurturing, caring, tending
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  Speaker 4: to the needs of the home, cooking, things like this.
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  Speaker 4: I actually don't mind to do any of those, and
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  Speaker 4: I love being a mother. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 4: your mother, and I damn sure don't want to be
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  Speaker 4: outside hanging up Christmas lights. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 4: changing my own oil in my car. When I buy
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  Speaker 4: the groceries, you go out, you bring them in. don't
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  Speaker 4: be making me do hard labor, okay? Passive, super feminized
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  Speaker 4: men are the norm now, and they're letting their wives
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  Speaker 4: lead them around by the nose, because they're so feminine,
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  Speaker 4: they've pushed her into her masculine energy, and she probably
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  Speaker 4: don't want to do that, she probably don't want to
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  Speaker 4: be there, but He's so feminine, one of them had
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  Speaker 4: to step up into the masculine role, and women are
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  Speaker 4: natural-born leaders, although men really should be leading the household.
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  Speaker 4: It's just all backwards, and I'll give you one guess
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  Speaker 4: how it got this way. That's right, it's by design, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Destruction of the nuclear family and reverse gender roles. It's all,
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  Speaker 2: it's all, that's 1,000% been the agenda for ages long.
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  Speaker 4: But I love you, Jennifer. I love you, Heidi. And
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  Speaker 4: I got one more shout-out here, and it's coming from Zach.
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  Speaker 4: He sent me a message. Zach, you know who you are.
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  Speaker 4: He says, new member here, been listening to your show
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  Speaker 4: for years and felt it was time to throw you
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  Speaker 4: some more support. I am a born again Christian and
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  Speaker 4: newer to the truth community. Thanks for continuing to expose
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  Speaker 4: the darkness and for bringing a little bit of comedic
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  Speaker 4: relief into this fucked up world. God bless. God bless you, Zach.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I can't tell from your profile picture, but
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  Speaker 4: you're probably hot. And I love you and thank you
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  Speaker 4: for being here. You know, and I saw a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of comments on the Eddie Murphy. The Eddie Murphy Murder Monday.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys were interacting with each other and talking
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  Speaker 4: about shit. And I absolutely love it when I see
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  Speaker 4: everyone interacting in the comments section. Because I feel like
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  Speaker 4: if by some crazy metaphorical situation we all... met up
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  Speaker 4: in Vegas, and we all decided to just get to
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  Speaker 4: know each other and become friends over a weekend, we'd
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  Speaker 4: all be best friends. And mostly because everyone listening to
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  Speaker 4: this right now has one very important, vital thing in common,
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  Speaker 4: and that's.
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  Speaker 5: Me.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, gosh. We'd all love each other. I swear we'd
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  Speaker 4: be the best of friends. But anyways, that's not why
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  Speaker 4: we've gathered today. And Zach, I was just kidding. Kinda.
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  Speaker 4: You probably married. You probably got somebody in your life.
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  Speaker 4: And for that, kudos. But I'm just saying anybody who
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  Speaker 4: listens to my show, probably hot, probably sexy, is definitely...
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  Speaker 4: one of the more eligible bachelors and bachelorettes out there.
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  Speaker 4: But enough of that. Let's get into the topic of
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  Speaker 4: the hour. I hope this is one that you guys
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  Speaker 4: are not very familiar with, but knowing most of you
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  Speaker 4: sleuths out there, you've probably already heard of it. But
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  Speaker 4: in the case you haven't, here we go. Let us begin.
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  Speaker 4: If you love what I do, leave a five-star review.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're new, welcome. And if you're a long
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  Speaker 4: time listener, welcome back. Today, we will be discussing a
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  Speaker 4: case that we've talked about before a long, long, long
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  Speaker 4: ass time ago. Now, I know people tend to beat
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  Speaker 4: the Johnny Gosch story to death. And much like the
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  Speaker 4: JonBenet case, there are these, in my opinion, absurd theories
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  Speaker 4: that he didn't ever even exist. But he did. And
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  Speaker 4: he might actually be a public figure that was wrapped
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  Speaker 4: up with the Bush family. But let's not put the
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  Speaker 4: cart before the horse. How about a little... Johnny Gosch
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  Speaker 4: case overview to get us going. Let's just do a
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  Speaker 4: little sum-up stuff about this case, and the small chance
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  Speaker 4: you're unfamiliar, and it's just good to refresh what we know. So,
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  Speaker 4: Johnny Gosch was a paperboy in West Des Moines, Iowa,
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  Speaker 4: who disappeared between 6 and 7 a.m. on September 5th, 1982.
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  Speaker 4: He is presumed to have been kidnapped and Gosch's picture
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  Speaker 4: was among the first to be featured on the milk
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  Speaker 4: carton as part of a campaign to find missing children. Now,
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  Speaker 4: we gotta cosmic peach this bitch up because here's a picture.
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  Speaker 4: This is the exact newspaper that he was delivering that
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  Speaker 4: Sunday morning. There's something really incredibly strange about this paper
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  Speaker 4: and the stories that it was covering that kind of
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  Speaker 4: adds another element to this whole bizarre mystery. And we
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  Speaker 4: will get into that a little bit later. But just remember,
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  Speaker 4: bookmark it, that there's something really fucking strange about this
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  Speaker 4: issue of the newspaper that Johnny Gosch just happened to
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  Speaker 4: be delivering on that fateful day. The Johnny Gosch disappearance
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  Speaker 4: really did just turn into this massive, massive, huge explosion
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  Speaker 4: of a story. The whole community got involved in trying
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  Speaker 4: to find this little boy and find out what the
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  Speaker 4: fuck happened to him. There were posters of him everywhere, buttons, pins,
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  Speaker 4: and of course, infamous milk cartons. There were... Also, all
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  Speaker 4: these mysteries and strange things about the morning that he disappeared.
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  Speaker 4: And all these reports. And there was one report of
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  Speaker 4: a blue car that pulled up to him. And the
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  Speaker 4: driver started talking with Johnny Gosch. And this happened right
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  Speaker 4: before he disappeared. So, there was this massive search for
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  Speaker 4: the blue car. And the identity of the people who
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  Speaker 4: were inside.
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  Speaker 5: Which.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the link, actually, in this case, to the Franklin cover-up,
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  Speaker 4: the Franklin scandal, but we're not there yet. So, Noreen Gosch,
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  Speaker 4: Johnny's mom, and say what you will about this woman,
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  Speaker 4: I don't actually think she's crazy. I think she's been
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  Speaker 4: made out to be crazy by design. Now, she claimed
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  Speaker 4: that she would get photos like these in the mail
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  Speaker 4: and left on her doorstep of little boys tied up
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  Speaker 4: and bound and gagged. And she claims that Johnny was
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  Speaker 4: in a few of these photos. Just really horrible, disgusting,
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  Speaker 4: nasty stuff, people. And I actually talked about these photos
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  Speaker 4: when I covered the Johnny gosh case with my cousin Brian,
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  Speaker 4: but we're going at a different angle today. Not that
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  Speaker 4: that's a bad episode. I really liked that episode, but
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  Speaker 4: we've got bigger fish to fry. So Noreen Gosch also
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  Speaker 4: claimed that Johnny Gosch called home multiple times begging and
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  Speaker 4: pleading for his life and pleading for his mommy's help.
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  Speaker 4: And then this guy is one of the more controversial
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  Speaker 4: people involved in this case. His name is Orville Cooney.
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  Speaker 4: He was the West Des Moines police chief at the
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  Speaker 4: time that headed up the investigation into what happened to
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  Speaker 4: Johnny Gosch. And from the start, Noreen Gosch claimed that
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  Speaker 4: he was just doing an absolutely fucking terrible job of investigating,
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  Speaker 4: of communicating with her, of following up on leads that
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  Speaker 4: she was giving him. And she eventually reached the point
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  Speaker 4: where she came to believe that He was himself purposely
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  Speaker 4: doing a bad job. Purposely trying to sink the entire investigation.
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  Speaker 4: Because he was protecting someone or protecting a group of
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  Speaker 4: people who were involved in the disappearance of Johnny Gosch.
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  Speaker 4: And this guy, Orville Cooney, he's a real fucking shithead guy.
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  Speaker 4: He has this quote he said right in the heart
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  Speaker 4: of the investigation. He said, quote, I really don't give
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  Speaker 4: a damn what Noreen Gosch has to say. I really
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  Speaker 4: don't give a damn what she thinks. I'm interested in
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  Speaker 4: the boy and what we can do to find him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of sick of her. End quote. Pretty fucking
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  Speaker 4: heartless thing to say about a woman whose little boy
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  Speaker 4: was literally kidnapped off the street and vanished. But so
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  Speaker 4: this guy retired very, very shortly after Johnny Gosch went missing,
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  Speaker 4: and then this Orville Cooney guy, he got caught stealing
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  Speaker 4: from Target after he had retired from the police department.
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  Speaker 4: So he's not only a bastard, but also a hypocrite.
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  Speaker 4: The FBI also eventually got involved, and Noreen Gosch also
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  Speaker 4: claimed that The FBI were just bungling this investigation horribly.
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  Speaker 4: And she claimed that their investigation was so bad that
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  Speaker 4: she just flat out asked them, asked the fucking FBI.
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  Speaker 4: to quit investigating this, like just quit looking into this.
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  Speaker 4: She basically said, I'm going to just do this on
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  Speaker 4: my own and hire my own private investigators and try
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  Speaker 4: to find my son that way. I don't want any
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  Speaker 4: of you shitheads to keep getting in my way. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what she did. She hired a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 4: private investigators and a whole team of people who kind
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  Speaker 4: of like were just waiting in the wings and jumped
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  Speaker 4: at the opportunity to help her but um that's suspicious
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  Speaker 4: in its in and of itself and um there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of like mysteries surrounding a lot of these people
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  Speaker 4: who got involved so this guy sam soda was one
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  Speaker 4: of the private investigators she hired and eventually she started
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  Speaker 4: to believe that even he might have actually been involved
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  Speaker 4: in her son's kidnapping look at the composite sketch dude
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  Speaker 4: Of the man who was driving the blue car that
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  Speaker 4: we talked about a second ago. And then this is
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  Speaker 4: Sam Soda. So they do look alike, spookily similar. And
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  Speaker 4: so she came to believe that Sam Soda might actually
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  Speaker 4: have been involved. And he was maybe kind of planted
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  Speaker 4: near her to monitor her and.
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  Speaker 4: Monitor her progress into the investigation, which, again, Noreen's crazy. Nah.
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  Speaker 5: Nah.
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  Speaker 4: They do that stuff. So, Noreen Gosch was also contacted
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  Speaker 4: by this guy named Paul Bishop, who said he worked
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  Speaker 4: for the CIA, and he started telling her about an
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  Speaker 4: international kidnapping pornography ring that her son was now involved in.
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  Speaker 4: And this Paul Bishop CIA guy started working with her
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  Speaker 4: and feeding her information, trying to help her. And then
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  Speaker 4: one day, he just fucking vanished off the face of
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  Speaker 4: the earth. He'd even given her a phone number at
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  Speaker 4: Langley Air Force Base to contact him. And she dialed
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  Speaker 4: the phone number and it was dead. Didn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And she never did see this Paul Bishop guy again.
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  Speaker 4: and never found out what happened to him. There are
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  Speaker 4: literally so many strange things that happened during this whole debacle,
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  Speaker 4: and another one of those strange things that started happening
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  Speaker 4: was there was a whole bunch, this never gets talked
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  Speaker 4: about enough, there was a whole bunch of other paper
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  Speaker 4: boys that worked for the Des Moines Register, the same
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  Speaker 4: paper that Johnny worked for, that all started kind of
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  Speaker 4: being targeted. So this Eugene Martin kid, specifically, on August 12, 1984,
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  Speaker 4: this Eugene Martin disappeared exactly the same circumstances, same story
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  Speaker 4: as Johnny Gosch. It was an early morning newspaper run.
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  Speaker 4: He left to go deliver newspapers and then he just
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  Speaker 4: never returned home and has never been found to this day.
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  Speaker 4: And again, this was not even two years after Johnny
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  Speaker 4: Gosch went missing. Then in the years that followed, there
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  Speaker 4: were all these other stories about Des Moines registered newspaper
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  Speaker 4: boys who were delivering newspapers in the morning, who were assaulted, chased,
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  Speaker 4: and grabbed by people. This cannot be a fucking coincidence, people.
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  Speaker 4: And if this story couldn't get any more terrible... Paul
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  Speaker 4: Benassi comes along. And this is when the Franklin cover-up
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  Speaker 4: enters the picture. So, let's sum up the Franklin scandal
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  Speaker 4: real quick, shall we? Just in case you're unfamiliar. Now first,
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  Speaker 4: let's start with Paul. Paul Benassi came forward and he said,
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  Speaker 4: He'd been severely abused and trafficked as a child, and
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  Speaker 4: trafficked to some very powerful people, and the people who
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  Speaker 4: ran this trafficking ring had actually forced him to participate
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  Speaker 4: in the kidnapping of one Johnny Gosch. And so, according
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  Speaker 4: to him, he was a part of the kidnapping of
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  Speaker 4: Johnny Gosch, and all the things that Paul Benassi talked
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  Speaker 4: about led to what we know today And what is
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  Speaker 4: known as the Franklin coverup or the Franklin scandal. So
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  Speaker 4: the Franklin coverup or the Franklin credit union scandal. This
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  Speaker 4: is such a fucking horrible case guys. One of the
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  Speaker 4: worst things that has ever come out in conspiracy history,
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  Speaker 4: but basically. There was this credit union in Nebraska bank,
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  Speaker 4: pretty much the Franklin credit union. And it was investigated
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  Speaker 4: because there was millions of dollars like missing and being misappropriated.
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  Speaker 4: And during this investigation into the missing money, they uncovered
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  Speaker 4: links to this massive child trafficking network. That was linked
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  Speaker 4: to this Franklin Credit Union. And one of the main
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  Speaker 4: places linked to the credit union was this place called
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  Speaker 4: Boys Town. Which was a foster care home for children.
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  Speaker 4: Like an orphanage. And it was kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: community for kids who were orphans and abandoned. And what
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  Speaker 4: was really going on was that these kids who were
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  Speaker 4: at Boys Town... were being horrifically abused by priests, were
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  Speaker 4: being trafficked around the country to the highest bidder, and
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  Speaker 4: Boys Town was just a front for this horrific child
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  Speaker 4: trafficking ring. And there were more than 80 kids just
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  Speaker 4: in the Omaha Lincoln area, who came forward and told
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  Speaker 4: the same stories as Paul Benassi about being forced into prostitution.
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  Speaker 4: And they named some very, very powerful people in Omaha
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  Speaker 4: and in the Nebraska area who were a part of this.
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  Speaker 4: But don't get it twisted. This wasn't just like Omaha
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  Speaker 4: or like a Nebraska thing. there were major, major links
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  Speaker 4: to Washington, D.C., particularly at the time President Reagan and
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  Speaker 4: Vice President Bush were in office. Now, you can go
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  Speaker 4: back and listen to my Program to Kill series for
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  Speaker 4: more information and further detail on the Franklin scandal, but
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  Speaker 4: Paul Benassi said some real nasty shit, you guys, about
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  Speaker 4: people just ripping and running through his b-hole, uh, as
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  Speaker 4: a very small child, watching children get slaughtered on camera, uh,
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  Speaker 4: just bloodbath, horrific rape, torture scenes, and, um, he also had,
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  Speaker 4: had split personality disorder, he had, like, 15 different personalities.
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  Speaker 4: He had been programmed. They were using him in all
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  Speaker 4: these different unspecified capacities. He had met the Colonel Michael Aquinto.
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  Speaker 4: He saw satanic ritual abuse firsthand. He was forced to
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  Speaker 4: participate in it. I mean, just the worst shit of
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  Speaker 4: all time. Now, Paul linked all this to Johnny Gosch.
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  Speaker 4: And up until about four or five days ago, I
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  Speaker 4: thought that's where the story ended. Paul Bonassi, along with
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: some other shitheads in a blue car, apparently stopped along
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the side of the road, started talking to Johnny. Paul
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: participated in the kidnapping. They loaded him up. He got
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: his b-hole raped and ran through. They took pictures of him,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: sent him to Noreen. And he got dismembered and discarded
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: along with the rest of the kids that got roped
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: into all this shit. But no. I was wrong. And,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: you know, I was just so certain, even the first
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: time me and my cousin Brian covered this topic, that
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: when children are kidnapped and involved in these rings, they're
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: most likely trafficked, used, abused, tortured, mutilated, and sacrificed in
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: snuff films. But with Paul Benassi and so many other
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: survivors of this coming forward after, and we've seen all
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: type of SRA survivors and their testimonies. What if I
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: was wrong? A lot of these kids, I'm sure, get used, abused, trafficked, tortured, mutilated, brutalated,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: and then sacrificed in a snuff film. But what if
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: they choose certain kids to repurpose in some way, keep
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: them around for future use, or somebody in the coven
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: or the clan takes these kids in and raises them
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: and shit? Well, That's where this guy comes in. In 2005,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: there was this reporter who appeared who was constantly attending
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: like White House press conferences and shit and he was always,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and I mean always, getting called on by George W. Bush.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: And this guy's name was Jeff Gannon. He would always
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: ask these really really easy softball questions to George Bush,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: like what toppings he liked on his wiener dog and
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: stuff like that. I mean, just ridiculously soft questions to
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: the point people started to suspect he was like a
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: plant being placed there by the Bush administration to tee
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: up these softball questions so George could answer them. And
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: the other thing was like, No one really knew who
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: he was or where he came from. He didn't work
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: for like a major newspaper or a major network or
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: anything like that. He seemingly came out of nowhere. People
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: had never talked to him or been familiar with him.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: So people be peopling. And a little search party was
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: launched to look into this guy. He was asking George Debbia.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: what toppings he likes on his wiener dog. So what
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: they found out was he supposedly worked at this just
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: totally random news site called Talon News, which wasn't big
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: at all. No one had actually ever heard of it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: And it got even more suspicious when people found out
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Talon News didn't even exist when Jeff Gannon initially started
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: appearing at these White House press conferences. and asking George
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Bush all these questions about his wiener dog. So even
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: though he claimed he was working for this Talon news site,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: when he started attending the press conferences, the site didn't exist,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: the fucking network, whatever he said, the paper, newspaper didn't exist.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: So he didn't work for them at all, but where
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: it gets really interesting and really wild was people kept
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: looking into, um, kind of like his background and stuff,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and trying to figure out who this guy was, showing
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: up asking George Bush all these softball questions about his
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: wiener dog, and they found out that Jeff Gannon used
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: to go by the name of Jeff Guckert, and he
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: was a male prostitute on sites like workingboy.net and meetlocalmen.com.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: He was a gay male prostitute, And he went by
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: the name of Bulldog. And he listed his age as
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: 32 years old. That is significant. We'll talk about that
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: in a minute. But on his profiles, I guess is
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: what they're called, which were from the early 2000s, he
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: listed his age as 32 years old. And as people
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: looked into this, the hot rumor that really started spreading
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: around the internet, but I guess I was out of
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: the loop, was that this Jeff Gannon was actually Johnny Gosch. Now,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I know what you're thinking, because I thought this too,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: when I found the theory and all. How the fuck
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: did they come to this? Just because some guys out
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: there perusing gay prostitution websites, and like, where, how, like, how, why?
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys on the male prostitution, websites,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: but here's some examples. This Jeff Gannon guy went by
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: a bunch of different names over the course of his life.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: He was once known as Jeff Guckert. Then he was
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: known as James Guckert. Then he was known as Jeff Gannon.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: And then people started putting the pieces together that every
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: name he ever used was J.G. Jeff Gannon, James Guckert,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Jeff Guckert, Johnny Gosch, perhaps? So this Jeff Gannon guy
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: who had a previous secret life as a gay male
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: prostitute and who was now a fake reporter asking George
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Bush questions about his wiener dog at the White House...
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Could this actually be Johnny Gosch? But wait, there's more.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: There's this guy, Ted Gunderson, who comes into the picture.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Ted had pretty much devoted his life after he retired
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: from the FBI to the Franklin child trafficking scandal. I mean,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: he was blood, sweat, and tears into this shit, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: He got heavily involved and worked constantly with Noreen Gosch.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: And Ted Gunderson said he was 99% sure that Jeff
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Gannon was indeed Johnny Gosch. So, Ted Gunderson was in
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: constant contact with a lot of the children who'd been
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: a part of the Franklin trafficking ring. And a lot
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: of those children Children who had been a part of
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the Franklin trafficking ring claimed that Johnny Gosch was indeed
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: a part of it too. And he claimed that a
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: lot of these kids still kept in contact with each other.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And amongst these kids who'd been trafficked and abused, it
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: was kind of common knowledge that Johnny Gosch had moved
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: on and was now in Washington, D.C. and went by
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the name Jeff Gannon. There were some media articles about
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: these really strange similarities between Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: but what really takes the cake is there was, um,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: there was one really interesting interview that Jeff Gannon gave,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: and he was kind of grilled, but not really, um,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: a little bit about the similarities between himself and Johnny Gosch,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: but it's just probably the strangest interview I've ever seen
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: in my life. There's a lot of just really bizarre
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: aspects to it. I'll go ahead and play a few
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: clips from the interview right now. And just brace yourselves, people,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: because it's so obvious what they're doing here. It's ridiculous,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: but I'll play you a couple clips, and then we'll
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: talk about it right after. Roll on one.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: And wanted to come on and chat, and we appreciate that, sir. So, Jeff,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: here's what Noreen Gosch said on our last show. Let's listen,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: and then I'm going to ask you to react. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: do not know if Gannon is Johnny or not. Only
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: a DNA test would provide that information inclusively. Jeff, one
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: question for you. Let's get right to the point. Are
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you willing to take a DNA test and settle the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: controversy once and for all?
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: Yes or no? Absolutely, I would definitely take a DNA test,
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: but that isn't even necessary because there's so much evidence
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: available to disprove these accusations. That's a yes, then.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Well, he's saying yes. My friend Jeff is saying yes. No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: You got to understand something. My friend here, Jeff, who's
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: come on our show today, didn't do anybody else's show.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: He's going to tell us the fact. Jeff, how old
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: are you?
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: First off, I'm 48 years.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Old, 48 years old. My man, Johnny, gosh, he there
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: would be 35 years old.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Lisa, why are you avoiding the question?
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: He just said he just said, hey, Jeff, you said
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: you would take your DNA. I could set this whole
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: thing up. But let's get to the point. Let's get
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: to the point. The point is, by giving a DNA sample,
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: there could be opening up some other avenues of things
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: that I kind of know that you possibly could be involved.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And I don't knock it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Again, if you want to go suck on a Johnny
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Pump or whatever you want to do, whatever you want
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: to do, you could do in this world. But the
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: point is, all we're here for is to show that
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: my friend Jeff is not Johnny Gush.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: All right, so I'm going to ask you a question,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: not Bo. Jeff, are you willing to take a DNA test?
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: Yes or no?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Yes or no?
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: Yes. When I cut my finger yesterday, there was plenty
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: of DNA available. You should have stopped by.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: What else do you want, Lisa?
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Are you his lawyer?
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: No, excuse me. He's my friend, my friend Jeff down there. Jeff,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: thank you for coming on the show again.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You know what we're doing here?
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: All this conspiracy stuff on the blogs, on all these internets,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: what we're doing is we're cutting to the chase. Again, again,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why, you know, and you've said it
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: to me over the phone. You said that you feel
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: sorry for Noreen You feel sorry for her missing her son,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and you wouldn't put her through if you were her son.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: You said you're 40. He says he's 40.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Let's hear from him. Here's my question. Jeff, have you
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: reached out to Noreen? What have you told her?
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: I have not been in communication with this woman because
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: I can't determine whether some of the emails I'm getting
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: are actually this woman or not. There are hundreds of
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: people that are contacting me about this story. I have
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: no idea who they are. Nameless, faceless people making wild accusations.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Do you have a pen and paper? Because I can
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: give you her phone number right after the show.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: Bo, are you on a payroll? No, I'm not on
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: a payroll. But when a guy is falsely accused, you've
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: got to stand up for innocent people. You're an attorney.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: You understand that, too. The man is going to give
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: his DNA. The man is 48 years old. Johnny Gosch
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: would be 35 years old. He looks 48 years old.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I'm 54 years old. He looks 48 years old. Why
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: can't the guy be telling the truth? So.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Clearly, that was probably the worst interview of all time.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: That's probably the worst interview that's ever been conducted, ever.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: And what was with the pompous b-hole guy just basically
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: taking over the entire fucking interview, screaming at the top
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: of his lungs, and was putting words into this Jeff
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: guy's mouth? Just totally ruined the whole fucking interview. And
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: it's blatantly, clearly obvious that this guy was told to
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: just make this whole thing seem like it was crazy
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: or seem like it was just, it had been debunked
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: and that there was nothing to it at all. The
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: lady that was trying to ask decent questions, she looked
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: like she was going to strangle the motherfucker. He was
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: absolutely absurd, his behavior. And he keeps referring to Jeff
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Gannon as my friend, my friend, my friend, Jeff Gannon,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: my friend, my friend, my friend, Jeff. Uh, nobody's your
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: fucking friend. I, these, these, oh God, what a disgusting
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: human being. But so the age thing is always brought
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: up as like something that debunks this whole notion of
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Jeff Gannon being Johnny gosh, because Jeff Gannon claimed that
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: he was 48 in the interview and elsewhere, and that's
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: way older than Johnny Gosch would be. But if we
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: go back and look at his gay male prostitution profiles, Bulldog,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Bulldog's profiles from 2002, and again, Bulldog was Jeff Gannon.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Bulldog was 32 years old in 2002, which we talked
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: about earlier. which meant that he would be either 35
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: or 36 in 2005 when this interview happened. And 35
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: or 36 in 2005 is the exact age that Johnny
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Gosch would have been. So the ages actually do match up, people.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: And if you go by what Jeff Gannon or Jeff
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Guckert or Johnny Gosch, whatever the fuck his name is,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: if you go by what he put on his online
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: male prostitution profile and use common sense and both of
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: your eyeballs and look at this guy, Jeff Gannon, he
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: absolutely does not, never could have looked 48 at all. Um,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: he looks way the fuck closer to 35 or 36.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Any sane human being would agree. Uh, just cause And,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like they tried to disguise how young
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: he was by shaving his head and whatever. You could
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: tell there were attempts to conceal his identity. But in
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: this whole notion of him having to take a DNA
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: test became kind of a hot topic for a while.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Ted Gunderson, again, the guy who devoted his life to
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: the Franklin scandal, always said that he was 99% sure
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: that Jeff Gannon was Johnny Gosch. But the only way
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: he'd be 100% sure is if he took a DNA test.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: In the interview that we just watched, the lady asked
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: him point blank, are you going to take a DNA test?
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Test?
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: And he said he would. Noreen Gosch at the time
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: said that she had no idea if this was actually Johnny,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: but she thought there were definite similarities between And again,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: would need a DNA test to be 100% sure. And
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: even though Jeff Gannon did agree to take the DNA
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: test in that interview, he never did. And that's always
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: kind of been one of the other mysteries to all
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: this because he could have very, very, very the fuck
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: easily cleared this whole thing up right away if he
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: would have just taken the DNA test like he said
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: he was going to, but he never did. And what
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: really happened with it is just that the major news
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: media really ignored it for the most part. That interview
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: was one of the very few times where they actually
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: talked about or asked this Jeff Gannon about the whole
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Johnny Gosch situation. Most of the heavy media coverage and
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: articles about Jeff Gannon just focused on the fact that
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: he was a former male prostitute and how did he
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: get White House press access and how did he get
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: his press pass? And was this like an issue of
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: national security that it had been so easy for him
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: to use a fake name and have no one look
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: into his pass and still get a press pass? And
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: there were articles like, is this a, a issue of
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: national security? But nobody was talking about this Johnny gosh stuff.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: But the ones that were, some of the alternative newspapers,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: some of them did feature it. But one of the
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: most interesting things that happened with that was this City
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: View newspaper, the alternative newspaper for Des Moines, Iowa, which
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: was really popular and had a pretty big audience. They
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: went hard on this Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch stuff pretty heavily.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: And what happened with City View was the day after
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: they published this Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch piece, they
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: were bought out by these two rich guys named Michael
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Gartner and Gary Gerlach. And Michael Gartner just happened to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: be the former editor of the Des Moines Register, the
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: paper Johnny Gosch worked for and was delivering today. the
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: day he disappeared. And Gary Gerlach, he was the publisher
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: of the Des Moines Register. So, these two people with
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: connections to the Des Moines Register, after the City View
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Alternative newspaper went pretty heavily into looking into and publicizing
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: this Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch stuff, these two people, Michael
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Gartner and Gary Gerlach, they just bought the newspaper, fired
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: practically everyone, and just shut it down completely. Literally brought
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: the whole bitch down. So these two fucksticks literally bought
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: City View, totally shut the bitch down, after it started
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: looking into Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch. Could it really
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: just be a coincidence that Michael Gardner and Gary Gerlach
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Who have connections to the Des Moines Register. The same
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Des Moines Register Johnny Gosch worked for. And all these
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: other paperboys who went missing worked for. And again, a
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: lot of these other paperboys we talked about earlier. Who
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: almost got taken. And were harassed and molested and whatever.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: They also worked for the Des Moines Register.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: So.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Is it all just a big coincidence that these two guys,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the editor and the, what was it, the publisher of
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the Register, they buy this alternative newspaper and shut it
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: the fuck down for talking about Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: And that brings us to the apex of crazy shit
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: with this case. And it has to do with this
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: issue of the Des Moines Register. This is the Sunday edition.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: that Johnny Gosch was delivering on the day he was taken.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: And as I mentioned earlier, there's something really bizarre about
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: this issue and the stories that are featured within. Right
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: here in the corner, one of the main stories on
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: the front page, is that this guy, James Gannon, was
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: named the editor, the head dude, of the Register. I'll
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: say that again. This guy, James Gannon, was named the
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: editor and head of the Register newspaper. Is it not
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: strange to you that the name Jeff Gannon is supposedly...
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: What Johnny Gosch changed his name to. And then this
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: guy who just happens to take over the Des Moines
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Register where Johnny Gosch worked. His name is James Gannon.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: And Jeff Gannon's character also went on to work for
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: a newspaper.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: A fake newspaper.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: A fake newspaper. And it just so happens that the
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: day Johnny Gosh was taken is the day announcing right
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: here on the front page that this guy, James Gannon,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: is now the new editor. People. People. Come on now, people.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: And also, interestingly, there's another connection. Because there's something else
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: that was mentioned in this article. And that's that this guy,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Gary Gerlach, the one who bought the paper and shut
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: it down for talking about the story, he had became
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: the publisher. So again, Gary Gerlach was the guy who,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: along with Michael Gardner, bought out the City View Alternative
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: newspaper that was looking into Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: similarities and fired everyone and shut the bitch down completely.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: They're mentioning him becoming the publisher and the other guy,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: what was his name? James Gannon becoming the editor on
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: the article Johnny Gosch was delivering. So it's really strange,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: these various links of the Des Moines Register to this
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: whole entire fucking trafficking, kidnapping thing. Name changing. You know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: and remember how Noreen Gosch always complained about how unfair
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: the local media coverage was to the case. And the newspapers,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: they printed horrible articles about her. And she really thought
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  Speaker 4: they did just a terrible job of giving her a
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  Speaker 4: fair shake of portraying her in any type of a
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: good light. And she has this quote about just how
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: bad she felt the media coverage was. And she said, quote,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I was afraid to open the newspaper each morning because
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't know who would be attacking us next, nor
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: could I understand why. I kept asking this question daily.
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  Speaker 4: How could they do this and what was their motive?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: End quote. Why would Gannon, the editor of the Des
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Moines Register, encourage and assist in the attacks against parents
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: to find their children? End this is going to again
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: tie in the Franklin scandal. So this whole thing is
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: pretty strange. And if you go back and look at
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: the Franklin scandal and look at how the editor of
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: the Omaha newspaper was one of the people who was benefiting,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: if you will, from this trafficking ring. And then there
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: was also this reporter, his name was Peter Catron or
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: something like that, who many children identified as well as
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: benefiting from the child trafficking services, the similarities and connections
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: are staggering between the Des Moines Register Johnny Gosch child
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  Speaker 4: trafficking ring and the Franklin Scandal Nebraska child sex trafficking ring. So, again,
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  Speaker 4: these editors and these reporters of these newspapers, especially back
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: in the 80s, They had so much power. They could
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: just report on certain facts and ignore other facts. It
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: was how most people got their news, especially their local news.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: And so the editors of these papers were the ones
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: who oversaw everything and they could pick and choose what
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: details to include, pick and choose what details to ignore.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: They really did have a tremendous amount of power. And
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: that brings us to the final strange aspect of this
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: whole goddamn thing, and clenched b-holes at the ready people
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: it has to do with the famous writer Hunter S.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Thompson you may be familiar with him and his connection
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: to the Franklin scandal but it goes a little further
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: here so how he gets kind of roped into all
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: this is that Paul Benassi when he was given his
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: testimony he claimed that in Las Vegas they once picked
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: up a man who identified himself as Hunter S. Thompson,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: and this Hunter Thompson filmed a snuff film for them
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  Speaker 4: in the presence of Paul Benassi. Then there was this
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: other guy, his name was Rusty Nelson, and he was
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: the personal photographer for a man named Larry King, who
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: was basically the central character in the whole Franklin Union
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: scandal story. Franklin child prostitution ring stuff. So, Rusty Nelson
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: was his personal photographer for a while, and he claimed
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: that in 1988, Hunter S. Thompson offered him $ 100, 000 to
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: shoot a snuff film involving a child. And this Rusty
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Nelson guy turned down the offer. So there's more than
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: one source connecting Hunter Thompson to the Franklin Child sex
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: trafficking ring. But what's very interesting is right around the
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: whole time that this Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch thing surfaced
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: in 2005, Hunter S. Thompson killed himself. Committed suicide, supposedly.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: And the timing is just really suspicious. If you look
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: into the fact that multiple people said Hunter S. Thompson
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: was kind of involved in this type of stuff. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: then the late 2005 Jeff Gannon Johnny Gosch thing happened.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Let me break this down. On February 8th, Jeff Gannon
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: resigned from the fake newspaper. And pretty much after that,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: he just kind of disappeared. And we'll talk about that
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: more in a minute. But then on February 20th, just
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: a few weeks after the whole Gannon thing broke wide open,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: and people were talking about that he was actually Johnny Gosch,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: that da-da-da-da. On February 20th, just a few weeks later,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Hunter S. Thompson killed himself, quote-unquote. If you look into this,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: it's a really bizarre fucking... Suicided quote-unquote type of deal
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: because supposedly he was on the phone with his wife
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: and then while he was on the phone with his wife,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: he just picked up a gun and shot himself in
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: the fucking face or whatever he did and The only
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: thing was she claimed she never heard a gunshot So
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: that doesn't make much sense and um after he died
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: This lady who used to be his former personal assistant,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Nicole Brown, not Simpson. She kind of wrote like this
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: little memoir of like her experiences working with him and
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: shit like that. And she says one time he threw
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: her out of the house for refusing to watch a
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: snuff film with him. So that's awesome. Now, Hunter S. Thompson.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: did have this quote the night before his death that
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: he told a good friend of his. He said, and
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: you know, I guess he was pretty paranoid towards the
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: end of his life and whatever, but he told a
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: friend the night before his death, quote, they're going to
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: make it look like a suicide. I know how those
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: bastards think, end quote. So again, the question is, who
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: are those bastards? And why did they want him dead?
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Why did they want him silenced? Was it tied to
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: this whole resurfacing of the Johnny Gosch disappearance and the
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: entire Franklin scandal child pornography ring? Because Jeff Gannon also
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: just fell off the face of the fucking earth just
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: a few weeks before they may have killed Hunter S. Thompson.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: There was something about about Jeff Gannon like supposedly I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: think it was like maybe 2007 that he published a
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: book um but I I couldn't find any type of
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: book or anything like that um and even if there
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: was a book it doesn't mean he wrote it they
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: could have just floated it out there I don't know
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: so he never resurfaced after the whole is Jeff Gannon
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Johnny Gosch thing happened which again was in 2005 just
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: a few weeks before Hunter S Thompson was killed And yeah,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: he just, he just entirely and utterly vanished off the
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: face of the fucking earth. And, you know, I don't understand.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: I really don't understand. And it's always been a huge
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: question on my mind, how Paul Benassi has survived all this.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, with his coming forward and, you know, they
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: probably let him. It's one of those things where they
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: let certain individuals come forward and because it's the age old,
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: we got to tell you what we're doing. So if
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: you don't do anything about it, you're given your consent.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: They sailed Paul Benassi out there for all of us
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: to weep and mourn and bathe in sorrow at the
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: thought that this could actually be our reality. And that
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: was probably one of his assignments.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: And Up until this point, like I said, I always
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: thought that after a child's been kidnapped, they're as good
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: as dead within probably a few days to a week
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: or so. But what if they keep some of these
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: shitheads around and repurpose them? Because if you endure that
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: type of sexual abuse and trauma, what do you do
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: with your life as an adult? Well, you probably become
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: a gay male prostitute named Bulldog who... later gets repurposed
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: as a fake newspaper reporter asking George W. Bush about
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: his wiener dogs. So, yeah, I just... This whole thing,
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, comments, your thoughts, your feelings, your opinions on this, people.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: I gotta know. Do you think Jeff Gannon, who... You know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: the bridge of the nose is.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: They could have done a face job on him. They
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: shaved his head. Johnny Gosch in his child pictures, and
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: this really doesn't mean jack shit, but he has a
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: little bit of a wider bridged nose. And Jeff Gannon
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: blinks a lot. He's like one of those weird blinker
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: people that just blinks like all the time while they're talking,
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: just blinking, blinking, blinking, blinking. So I feel like as
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: a mother, that'd be something you'd remember. if your kid
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: did that all the time. But, you know, all the
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: horrific b-hole rapes could have caused him a tick like that,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: where he just blinks.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: All the time.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Who knows? But I want to know from you people
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: out there, what do you think? Is Jeff Gannon Johnny Goshen?
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: And could Hunter S. Thompson be wrapped up in all this?
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Is that one of the reasons they snuffed him out?
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: If you enjoyed today's episode, along with your thoughts, feelings,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: and opinions, go ahead and comment. Bush's Wiener Dog in
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: the comments section. Again, that's Bush's Wiener Dog in the
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: comments section. Thanks for hanging with me for another one, folks.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I love each and every one of you. Take care
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: of yourselves out there, and I will catch you on
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: the next one.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: Her name is Rio and she dances like that river
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: twisting through dusty land and when she shines