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- 0:03Speaker 1: Praise God. So I'm back.
- 0:05Speaker 2: But other says, I don't have to explain the explomas.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I'm telling you my story because of the masters, the
- 0:09Speaker 2: ki the people, the souls. And that's because God has
- 0:14Speaker 2: given me a heart. Thank you God, He's given me
- 0:16Speaker 2: a heart for the people. And I believe, by the
- 0:19Speaker 2: grace of God, this a is one of the reasons
- 0:21Speaker 2: why I have the the fivefold Ministry gift. I'm not
- 0:26Speaker 2: saying that it is the only reason, but I I
- 0:29Speaker 2: was like this since I was a child. So my
- 0:32Speaker 2: thing is, people wanna try to take advantage of you
- 0:34Speaker 2: because you have a heart, but that doesn't borrow I'm
- 0:38Speaker 2: far far away from that.
- 0:39Speaker 1: That doesn't even f FaZe me.
- 0:42Speaker 2: What I'm on here is I'm always on here blowing
- 0:44Speaker 2: the trumpet to warn the people, to bring forth prophetic guidance,
- 0:48Speaker 2: to let people know, you know, the uh, what they
- 0:54Speaker 2: have done, what's not right and what's wrong? Who?
- 0:56Speaker 1: Who?
- 0:56Speaker 2: Who needs to be exposed? A clear atmosphere higher However,
- 1:01Speaker 2: the spirit comes to me, you know.
- 1:05Speaker 1: That day to.
- 1:07Speaker 2: You know, tend to the c tend to the sheep.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Because I'm a shepherd. Period, I'm a shepherd. I'm one
- 1:12Speaker 2: of those shepherd God said, uh, he will send you
- 1:15Speaker 2: shepherds after his own heart, meaning that the leaders that
- 1:18Speaker 2: you have before, they were not all of most of
- 1:21Speaker 2: them were not sent by God. They I I came
- 1:23Speaker 2: when I came on, and see it as a pri
- 1:25Speaker 2: a pastor, what I seen as them taking advantage of
- 1:31Speaker 2: other people. They believe in that the homeless is legsy,
- 1:34Speaker 2: not all the homeless, that all the homeless don't wanna work,
- 1:36Speaker 2: they don't want drugs.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Talk about them terribly.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Now you're gonna tell me all of a sudden the
- 1:40Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty six that they changed their strength. Now
- 1:45Speaker 2: they they so concerned about them. No, it's not it's
- 1:48Speaker 2: not true, because they they're the ones that caused me
- 1:52Speaker 2: to be.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Homeless.
- 1:55Speaker 2: If you haven't heard it before, you heard it now
- 1:57Speaker 2: because of the fact that they closed down the jaw.
- 2:00Speaker 2: The church is closed down the passes. The only time
- 2:03Speaker 2: you get a job is if you're in the church.
- 2:05Speaker 2: So you can fund them, f fund their evil mission.
- 2:10Speaker 2: So you can fund their evil mission and they can
- 2:13Speaker 2: get as many people. And it's why most men not
- 2:15Speaker 2: in there, cause them the men already know it's a game.
- 2:17Speaker 2: They already know it's a part of gainsaying, collect the
- 2:21Speaker 2: money and taking advantage, you know, of the women.
- 2:24Speaker 1: That's the l a lesser vessel.
- 2:26Speaker 2: But anyway, God s God l used a donkey. I
- 2:30Speaker 2: don't care nothing what these men, these prophets on here saying,
- 2:32Speaker 2: because I know how to walk in in order, I
- 2:37Speaker 2: know how to speak clearly by the grace of God,
- 2:40Speaker 2: and I definitely know how to uh discern, you know,
- 2:44Speaker 2: what's coming out of their mouths. It's one sided because
- 2:48Speaker 2: the fact you haven't talked to me. You can talk
- 2:50Speaker 2: to me all day. I'm an easy person to talk to,
- 2:52Speaker 2: but you must have done something. I'm talking about the
- 2:54Speaker 2: masses as a whole fivefold the Bible Christ.
- 2:56Speaker 1: They have done something.
- 2:57Speaker 2: They're guilty, so they don't wanna sit on these for
- 3:00Speaker 2: you so that they can be sequestered about what they've done.
- 3:04Speaker 2: So you know what what I see is it would
- 3:07Speaker 2: it have been better for them to have done that
- 3:09Speaker 2: than where they are right now, which is nowhere, Brothers,
- 3:11Speaker 2: which is I don't care about how many memories. It's
- 3:13Speaker 2: not about to me, it's never been by how many
- 3:15Speaker 2: members I have. It's about seeing a demonstration in God's kingdom.
- 3:19Speaker 2: It's always been about kingdom, you know, true prophety. God's
- 3:22Speaker 2: always about kingdom. It's not about no, oh, you came
- 3:25Speaker 2: to church today. No, the church should be in you.
- 3:28Speaker 2: The men in the countries in South America and went
- 3:32Speaker 2: with me, they didn't have the Kingdom within them. They
- 3:35Speaker 2: weren't willing to suffer go through nothing, you know, didn't
- 3:38Speaker 2: want to leave my pastor that I was underneath of.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Like I said, Pastor Waii he could have he could
- 3:43Speaker 2: have caused me to lose my faith in God. He
- 3:46Speaker 2: was not walking in the kingdom. Kingdom was not in
- 3:48Speaker 2: him brother than as sisters, because he would have never
- 3:52Speaker 2: did what he done.
- 3:55Speaker 1: I start the slandering and all that.
- 3:57Speaker 2: But the reason and I'm on here is because of
- 4:01Speaker 2: the fact that they try to set it up to
- 4:04Speaker 2: make it look like you know, or a prophet. You know,
- 4:08Speaker 2: I know that nobody's supposed to be nicely. I am
- 4:11Speaker 2: not stupid by any means, by the grace of God,
- 4:14Speaker 2: but I know when I was, like I said, I
- 4:16Speaker 2: went out there as early as January of last year,
- 4:21Speaker 2: I mean December last year. And when I say that,
- 4:24Speaker 2: there's no resources if you're a god for being a
- 4:27Speaker 2: single woman or a mother you know, have children. I
- 4:29Speaker 2: feel I feel sorry for you. You better lay before God
- 4:33Speaker 2: and you better know God in this hour because I'm
- 4:35Speaker 2: telling you any help coming. Whatever they're doing, the same
- 4:38Speaker 2: people getting their resources, they're using for theirself. Do you
- 4:41Speaker 2: know they take that they need to shut They need
- 4:44Speaker 2: to shut most of these shelters down, these nonprofits down.
- 4:48Speaker 2: God needs to shut these nonprofit down. So I've talked
- 4:51Speaker 2: to him, you know about the ones that I've been in,
- 4:55Speaker 2: because they're getting money, you know, and they're getting donations.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Do you know they selling them donations that they get
- 5:02Speaker 2: like just like Salvation army, you know, just like what
- 5:06Speaker 2: do you call they're getting and that's that's illegal. That
- 5:10Speaker 2: should be illegal because the fact of the matter is
- 5:12Speaker 2: it's a gift to that company and the people that's
- 5:16Speaker 2: coming in there. We got to pay for something that
- 5:18Speaker 2: was given. But I'm not even gonna go through that.
- 5:22Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that these people that have these
- 5:26Speaker 2: places are filthy rich and then God's children, you know,
- 5:30Speaker 2: they don't have what they supposed to have. So when
- 5:32Speaker 2: I go to these different states, like I said, or
- 5:35Speaker 2: mind you, I'm driving, you know, I'm doing my pilgrim journey.
- 5:38Speaker 2: That's a pilgrim journey, not you know what I'm saying
- 5:41Speaker 2: getting on a plane and you having a.
- 5:42Speaker 1: First class seat. I'm doing it.
- 5:45Speaker 2: I'm driving to these different states and cities and you know,
- 5:50Speaker 2: calling for natural pentans preaching, you know, a witnessing to
- 5:53Speaker 2: the people. So a lot of the people are already
- 5:59Speaker 2: turned off from the church. People who have been you know, kind,
- 6:03Speaker 2: they haven't been you know, beligient or anything like that.
- 6:05Speaker 2: But I haven't been totally isolated.
- 6:08Speaker 1: This is what you This is what I'm saying.
- 6:10Speaker 2: I know and discern as a prophet that a person
- 6:12Speaker 2: want me or want to be around me or minister
- 6:16Speaker 2: or accepting this gift. They have not celebrated me in
- 6:19Speaker 2: this state. All the elevation and a sentence that God
- 6:23Speaker 2: has done and the glory not only just them, but
- 6:26Speaker 2: people and passing the churches that's seen the glory, like
- 6:28Speaker 2: I said before, on the platforms, cause the glory is
- 6:32Speaker 2: not just coming down everywhere, Holly, nowhere, but the glory
- 6:36Speaker 2: has come down on this ministry and the water, the
- 6:42Speaker 2: rivers of living water as well. When God gave me
- 6:47Speaker 2: a place over there. At the matter of fact of
- 6:49Speaker 2: the airport. So I was over there at the airport
- 6:51Speaker 2: in Kellington, you know, and went to the different you
- 6:55Speaker 2: know projects and stuff like that ministry and giving out
- 6:57Speaker 2: you know flyers, you know when the feed do this,
- 7:01Speaker 2: do that, and stuff like that.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And it's just a setup.
- 7:06Speaker 2: It's a complete setup here in the state of Jordan,
- 7:09Speaker 2: and a network where the people are serving false prophets
- 7:13Speaker 2: and they love to feed from false prophet's tables, or
- 7:16Speaker 2: they just don't want God at all. Like I said,
- 7:20Speaker 2: majority of the people when the Loryd first sent this
- 7:23Speaker 2: ministry here and nobody really speaking against it. Not really
- 7:26Speaker 2: these pastors that's on here now prophets and stuff trying
- 7:30Speaker 2: to talk, they weren't speaking against saying that this is
- 7:34Speaker 2: a godless nat this is godless place. These people, very
- 7:37Speaker 2: few people have got in them. It's like they have
- 7:39Speaker 2: to be taught back from birth about Jesus. You know
- 7:43Speaker 2: that they had lost it because they were sitting underneath
- 7:46Speaker 2: for up Apamite's spirit, a feminine spirit Tdj's all these
- 7:50Speaker 2: churches wasn't connected to him. Did anybody go up to
- 7:53Speaker 2: him as a man or, as a fivefol ministry leader
- 7:56Speaker 2: and eject him from where he was he was there
- 7:58Speaker 2: for twenty years or more, I don't even know. Just
- 8:00Speaker 2: too long, too much evil, so they don't want to
- 8:06Speaker 2: get on there and talk about him or Eddie Long.
- 8:11Speaker 2: So I'm not of course, I'm not gonna accept what
- 8:13Speaker 2: you're saying because you're not for me, and I can
- 8:16Speaker 2: like I said, you can call me up. No one
- 8:18Speaker 2: has called. No one has invited me to sit down
- 8:21Speaker 2: and talk to me, because they have stolen and they
- 8:24Speaker 2: know the FBI investigation, the smear campaign. Oh yeah, FBI
- 8:28Speaker 2: does all of that. They look into all of that.
- 8:31Speaker 2: So they're not safe. They're definitely not safe, and they're
- 8:35Speaker 2: definitely not supposed to go with me since they've tricking you,
- 8:38Speaker 2: but they ain't tricking me. God placed me here as
- 8:41Speaker 2: the leader, you know, over leaders, So if you can't
- 8:46Speaker 2: figure that out, there's something's wrong with you. Leader over leaders,
- 8:48Speaker 2: not leader me sitting under leaders. So therefore I have
- 8:52Speaker 2: the information, you know what I'm saying, I have the
- 8:54Speaker 2: gifting what they need. It's supposed to be connected to them.
- 8:59Speaker 2: I ain't sposed to be straddling behind them in thirty
- 9:02Speaker 2: something years, straddling behind them because they wanted to take
- 9:05Speaker 2: a license. The devil was a liar, and I didn't
- 9:07Speaker 2: give it. I didn't give it during I let him
- 9:08Speaker 2: go right ahead and do what they doing, showing they
- 9:11Speaker 2: tell in front of God's face, because I know what
- 9:13Speaker 2: God's word stands, and I know that they still I
- 9:17Speaker 2: know they gonna get and I know they gonna continue
- 9:19Speaker 2: to get dealt with until He shut this mess down,
- 9:22Speaker 2: cause it's nothing but a mess. You're still coming back
- 9:25Speaker 2: trying to make excuses as to what I'm not doing,
- 9:29Speaker 2: And uh, how you know a woman ain't suposed to preach?
- 9:31Speaker 2: How woman, I ain't put myself in no position to
- 9:34Speaker 2: to to elevate the Lord has done this great thing
- 9:37Speaker 2: in my life. God's glory will not be on my
- 9:38Speaker 2: life the standard his name will not be on this ministry.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Not knowing I ain't make not saying I ain't make
- 9:43Speaker 2: no mistakes. But God's seeing people set you up for
- 9:47Speaker 2: a fall. He see, he's seeing people put the Devil
- 9:51Speaker 2: put people in my life that wasn't supposed to be
- 9:53Speaker 2: in there to try to throw me out. He's seen
- 9:55Speaker 2: all that for I was even born. But at the
- 9:58Speaker 2: end of the game, I win because the back of
- 10:00Speaker 2: the matter is I chose in my heart to serve God.
- 10:04Speaker 2: I didn't choose to make mistakes that some people make
- 10:06Speaker 2: mistakes intentionally. I didn't choose to make a mistakes. I
- 10:09Speaker 2: didn't choose to. But my thing is, if you see
- 10:14Speaker 2: and were supposed to be brothers, right I was to
- 10:16Speaker 2: one another, that's out, that's out the window.
- 10:18Speaker 1: That don't happen no more.
- 10:19Speaker 2: If you see a person, you know what I'm saying,
- 10:22Speaker 2: in danger, Why didn't you say something and speak about
- 10:24Speaker 2: that over ten years ago? Why would you wait now
- 10:28Speaker 2: and then talk about over? The devil put people in
- 10:30Speaker 2: your life because they want to keep on getting money.
- 10:33Speaker 2: But that character and and TABI cannot stand before God.
- 10:37Speaker 2: These men character and type cannot stand before God because
- 10:41Speaker 2: look at how long ATY I mean TDJ stood in
- 10:47Speaker 2: position and all these men that's talking now were right
- 10:50Speaker 2: there and they saw it and they said nothing. So
- 10:54Speaker 2: the respect is really not there anyway like it should
- 10:57Speaker 2: be now. People that come that I don't know, they
- 11:01Speaker 2: have opportunities to do this and that and everything else.
- 11:04Speaker 2: But the ones that I know that's done is that
- 11:06Speaker 2: have opportunities to repent and apologize if it didn't but
- 11:11Speaker 2: keep on, you know, keep stuff going and being sarcastic
- 11:15Speaker 2: and you know, not making itself accountable.
- 11:17Speaker 1: I don't have work with you. I'm not working with you. You
- 11:20Speaker 1: want to bring all these people.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Together, talk about some unity church when y'are the one
- 11:24Speaker 2: that's wrong and you're thinking that I didn't have a
- 11:26Speaker 2: choice but to come back unneath you. But I'm the
- 11:29Speaker 2: one that God gave the fivefold ministry, started church wherever
- 11:32Speaker 2: I want to, by the grace of God, wherever he
- 11:34Speaker 2: wants to. So I'm not confused. I'm not confused about
- 11:39Speaker 2: who I am. I'm not confused about what God has
- 11:42Speaker 2: placed in me and saying that most prophets, I'm not
- 11:47Speaker 2: just a prophet. Get it, get it straight. I don't
- 11:51Speaker 2: care what you what you think. I'm not just a prophet.
- 11:54Speaker 2: And you got to sit up under apostle in order
- 11:56Speaker 2: for you to be able to, you know, get stronger.
- 11:59Speaker 2: I done done all that I was supposed to do
- 12:01Speaker 2: by the grace of God, and continually in my training
- 12:04Speaker 2: for the Lord. I'm not like my finished training. I'm
- 12:06Speaker 2: just saying that God has specific people that he has
- 12:09Speaker 2: for me to be with, because you don't own these
- 12:12Speaker 2: all these people. God has specific nations and nationalities that
- 12:20Speaker 2: he will that He has assigned to me. My people
- 12:24Speaker 2: is not the ones they are not able to repent.
- 12:28Speaker 2: I don't care if we are the same color. It
- 12:30Speaker 2: does not matter, does kindred spirit of God, the love
- 12:33Speaker 2: of God, that God be.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Loved is the fruits of the spirit.
- 12:36Speaker 2: The people are the way they are because of people
- 12:39Speaker 2: that a lot of these men coming against me do
- 12:43Speaker 2: not have the fruits of the spirit, do not have
- 12:45Speaker 2: the full Gospel, you know. And when I sent annoying
- 12:49Speaker 2: to do what they do, that's why the people haven't
- 12:51Speaker 2: brought forth their memories, haven't brought forth no real fruit.
- 12:55Speaker 1: And they haven't brought forth no real fruit. So yeah,
- 13:01Speaker 1: you know.
- 13:02Speaker 2: And the thing of it is is that God's ministry
- 13:04Speaker 2: ain't flashy and all that prosperity and all that stuff
- 13:07Speaker 2: that was going on.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Where were they then? You know what I'm saying. I
- 13:10Speaker 1: don't care.
- 13:11Speaker 2: They're gonna talk, Let them talk. But I'm gonna tell
- 13:14Speaker 2: you one thing that it ain't over to God says over.
- 13:18Speaker 2: He don't put me in the front for a reason.
- 13:23Speaker 2: And I came this fall, and he'dn't rescue me over
- 13:28Speaker 2: and over again from all the onslaught and all the
- 13:31Speaker 2: evil God don't make no mistakes. He always throughout the
- 13:36Speaker 2: Bible just use about one man and one woman. So
- 13:39Speaker 2: what is his unity of these churches all about? Is
- 13:42Speaker 2: about stealing, stealing God's money and stealing salvation from God's
- 13:47Speaker 2: people in Jesus Mighty name. So you might as well
- 13:51Speaker 2: smart enough, because Lord can come back any day. We
- 13:55Speaker 2: don't have that much longer left. But they want me
- 14:00Speaker 2: to let me tell you something dis anointing all my life.
- 14:04Speaker 2: It came with a price. People weren't willing to pay
- 14:07Speaker 2: the price. People weren't willing to be humble. People had
- 14:09Speaker 2: to be seen, you know, people have to be have
- 14:13Speaker 2: all all these titles, you know what I'm saying. And
- 14:16Speaker 2: the Lord explained them to me. Holy Spirit explained to me,
- 14:19Speaker 2: uh what I have. Them pastors couldn't help me. They
- 14:22Speaker 2: were so bit of tryna diminish me and so jealous
- 14:25Speaker 2: of of the gifts you know, and the prophetic that they.
- 14:31Speaker 1: You know, they try to set you up f to fall.
- 14:34Speaker 2: They try to set you up to go backwards every
- 14:36Speaker 2: anything and everything, rather than says, but I'm still on
- 14:39Speaker 2: the Lord's side.
- 14:40Speaker 1: You know, God's fires still burning deep within me.
- 14:43Speaker 2: And like I said God's people, those one that truly
- 14:47Speaker 2: love God, those are the ones you like. I said
- 14:49Speaker 2: that I'm with. I'm not with traders. I'm not with betrayers.
- 14:52Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not even thinking about tryna go back
- 14:55Speaker 2: with nothing like that.
- 14:56Speaker 1: From Jesus' name a man