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Killers Amongst Us: Florida's missing Jennifer Kesse showered and dressed for work, then vanished (part 3) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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Speaker 1: the production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. A beautiful young girl,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Kessy, beautiful, outgoing, smart, the works until one day
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Speaker 1: Jennifer doesn't show up at work. What happened to Jennifer Kessy?
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Speaker 1: Are their Killers amongst Us? On the morning of January
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, two thousand and six, none of Jennifer Kessey's friends, family,
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Speaker 1: or coal workers could locate the twenty four year old
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Speaker 1: Orlando woman. Jennifer was very habitual and didn't you didn't
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Speaker 1: do things out of the ordinary. She left for work
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Speaker 1: between seven thirty and eight in the month. It was
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Speaker 1: like clock ban Jen was kind of like my human
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Speaker 1: alarmclock because she'd always well meal, text me in the
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Speaker 1: morning and just say hey, look have a great day.
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Speaker 1: She called them every day. They talked. She talked to
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Speaker 1: her mom, she talked to her brother, she talked to
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Speaker 1: her boyfriend. I never got a text from her phone
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Speaker 1: call from her. We had started the work day, but
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Speaker 1: after about a half an hour and then an hour
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Speaker 1: we started wondering, where's Jennifer. When they called her phone
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Speaker 1: and went directly to voice now, we waited another half
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Speaker 1: hour or so and placed a phone called say Jennifer's dad.
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Speaker 1: And when we had gotten a phone call that she
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Speaker 1: didn't show up for work, Joyce immediately called her son
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Speaker 1: Logan to try and you know, she was extremely emotionable,
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Speaker 1: letting an agens on answering. She gave me the whole rundown.
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Speaker 1: She didn't show up to works, not answering her phones.
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Speaker 1: I got confirmation from a family that indeed she'd never
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Speaker 1: showed up to work and she was missing. Welcome back everyone,
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Speaker 1: you are joining us here on killers amongst us at
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Speaker 1: our home. I heart you were just hearing our friend
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Speaker 1: Gretev and Sistern and the mysterious disappearance of Jennifer Kessy
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Speaker 1: with me Joe trial lawyer Ashley Wilcott, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: State University, author Blood Beneath My Feet, Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: renowned psychoanalysts out of Beverly Hills, doctor Bethany Marshall, Ray Caputo,
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Speaker 1: lead news anchor Orlando's Morning News w DBO, and special
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Speaker 1: guest Drew and Joyce Kessie still looking for their gorgeous girl,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Kessie Drew Joyce, it means so much to us
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Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say, because you have
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Speaker 1: lived through this since day one. I want to talk
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Speaker 1: about what it means all the new construction going on
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Speaker 1: around where Jennifer lived and around where her vehicle was found.
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Speaker 1: First to you, Drew Kessie, what about it? Well, we
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Speaker 1: knew Jennifer was moving into a complex, switching over from
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Speaker 1: apartments to condo, sort of a lot of construction going on,
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Speaker 1: redoing of each unit, but it was simply gorgeous to
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Speaker 1: us and something inviting, to be quite honest with you.
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Speaker 1: Didn't turn out that way, obviously, but what we thought
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Speaker 1: Jennifer was truly making a good move. When you look
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Speaker 1: back on things, and I think, I think, Nancy, people
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Speaker 1: have to understand and remember that. I mean, we're not
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Speaker 1: criminals as people and families, and we didn't have bad
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Speaker 1: things truely happened to us in our life every day
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Speaker 1: and what have you. So we didn't think right off
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Speaker 1: the bat about, oh, there's ten thousand construction workers around
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Speaker 1: and who are they? Are they legal? Are they staying here?
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Speaker 1: Do we have every single thing of security under wraps here?
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Speaker 1: It's I mean, now we look back at it, and
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Speaker 1: we would do that seeing playing normal and yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is a logical choice and it's going to be a
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Speaker 1: great place for Jennifer to live, even though the constructions
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Speaker 1: of a while. That's what I feel as a matter
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Speaker 1: of fact. Take a listen to this. We're standing at
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Speaker 1: Jennifer's condominium, which she purchased in November of two thousand
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Speaker 1: and five. If you look around, it's a beautiful place.
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Speaker 1: The condos are beautiful. There was so much construction going
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Speaker 1: on that there just wasn't a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: lived there. I know a couple of the workers that
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Speaker 1: were in the complex had made some cat calls at
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Speaker 1: her and you know, kind of put her out on ease.
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Speaker 1: It just made her feel uncomfortable having these strangers and
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Speaker 1: they were men, and you know, it was very apparent
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Speaker 1: that she lived there alone. But overall we thought everything
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Speaker 1: was just fine for Jennifer. In addition to her home,
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Speaker 1: she also had a new boyfriend, Englishman Rob Allen. We
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Speaker 1: had a lot in common that we were attracted to
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Speaker 1: each other. I lived in you know, full load of
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Speaker 1: ellas such, and she lived in Orlando. Obviously, distance is hard,
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Speaker 1: so that was difficult for her but she was happy
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Speaker 1: in her relationship. Rob was an awesome guy, super nice,
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Speaker 1: give you the shirt off his back. One thing was
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Speaker 1: he's a little bit older at first, so I kind
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Speaker 1: of give a little bit of craft for that. He
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Speaker 1: just saw me as you know, this is a guy,
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Speaker 1: jen started Dayton that I don't really know much about.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's foreign guy. Beautiful new condos. You're hearing
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Speaker 1: the mysterious disappearance of Jennifer Kessy to doctor Bethany Marshall,
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Speaker 1: psychoanalyst to the Stars at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, There's something so alluring, so luring about a
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Speaker 1: brand new home, a brand new condo, nobody's ever lived
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Speaker 1: there before. You don't have to get rid of all
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Speaker 1: their germs, fresh paint, newcarpet, hardwood floors. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: what everybody wants, right, that is what everybody wants. But
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Speaker 1: along with a brand new, beautiful condo comes construction. So
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Speaker 1: I have kind of a mixed image of this place. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer the Kessi family can you know, illuminate us about
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Speaker 1: what this place actually look like. But I have this
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Speaker 1: mental image of hardwood floors, raised ceilings, a beautiful view,
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Speaker 1: a lovely place for young people, where there's this illusion
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Speaker 1: of security and safety. But I also have this other
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Speaker 1: image of construction, a lot of men hanging around, a
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Speaker 1: very transient community of people coming and going, people in
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Speaker 1: the construction community. So it is a mixed bag where
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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if all of the condo units
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Speaker 1: were inhabited yet, I mean, was every unit inhabited or
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Speaker 1: were there places where people could hide or secrete themselves.
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Speaker 1: So there was an illusion of safety, but there's also
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Speaker 1: this underbelly running through this entire picture or this scenario
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Speaker 1: or situation. Joining me. Ray Caputo, lead news anchor Orlando's
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Speaker 1: morning News w DBO, Ray Capputo. Were the condos full?
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Speaker 1: Were all of them inhabited? Were they still building constructing
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Speaker 1: more condos? Like you know, you see condos and it says, oh,
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Speaker 1: phase two, Phase three, phase four? Were there workers on
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Speaker 1: her property? Yes, absolutely, Nancy behalf of the condos were
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Speaker 1: built at the time, and they were still building some
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Speaker 1: so there were tons of construction workers around. Some of
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Speaker 1: them were undocumented. And not only that, but construction workers
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Speaker 1: were actually living in some of the unoccupied units just
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Speaker 1: because they were closer to work, So not only were
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Speaker 1: they there every day, some of them were actually there
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, So there were a lot
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Speaker 1: of transient people. There are a lot of folks who
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Speaker 1: didn't have addresses there, and Jennifer was living amongst them.
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Speaker 1: As always, investigator's first question Jennifer's family and close friends
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Speaker 1: to see if any of them had a reason to
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Speaker 1: kidnap or harm her, or if they knew someone that did. Now.
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Speaker 1: Her ex boyfriend, according to reports, was recently upset and
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Speaker 1: wanted to get back together with Jennifer. He was questioned.
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Speaker 1: Her current boyfriend was also questioned. His alibi checked out,
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Speaker 1: he was eliminated as a suspect. He lived at least
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Speaker 1: an hour away from her. To Joyce, Kessie, what can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about her ex boyfriend that wanted to
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Speaker 1: get back together? We excuse me. We have known the
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Speaker 1: family for over thirty years. So the boyfriend and Jennifer
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Speaker 1: dated for a couple of years during college, and when
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Speaker 1: Jennifer broke up with him, she broke up with him
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Speaker 1: because they just didn't have the same visions for their life,
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Speaker 1: their future life, and unfortunately the boyfriend took it badly
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Speaker 1: and had been trying to get back with Jen, and
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Speaker 1: she had taken a break from relationships then met Rob
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Speaker 1: and didn't want any part of that former relationship, and
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Speaker 1: that was something that the x Jess was having some
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Speaker 1: difficult be getting over well, as is so often the case,
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Speaker 1: and this is not a good thing. The first response
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Speaker 1: from law enforcement was a response that trivialized Jennifer's disappearance. Listen,
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Speaker 1: the first response of law enforcement was while she had
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Speaker 1: a fight with her boyfriend, she'll be back. Jennifer wasn't
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Speaker 1: an adult, and at that time she was allowed to
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Speaker 1: be missing. All they had to say was this happens
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Speaker 1: all the time. We'll have her back in forty eight hours.
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Speaker 1: And we were kind of taken back by that. Told
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Speaker 1: him we didn't like that. You don't know Jen, you
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Speaker 1: don't understand. This isn't normal. It was apparent, I think
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Speaker 1: in the early evening hours that due to Jennifer's very
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Speaker 1: strong family connections and the way her family interacted, that
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Speaker 1: we were dealing with something that was suspicious and that
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Speaker 1: she was in danger. That day, when it started to
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Speaker 1: get dark and they still hadn't heard from her, it
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Speaker 1: was like it just felt like crazy, just you know
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Speaker 1: what is happening and where is she? But quickly there
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Speaker 1: was a break in the case. Her car is here,
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Speaker 1: there will at least be DNA. Is she in the trunk?
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Speaker 1: I think it's apparents for a nightmare and you don't
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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna be. The first response of law
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Speaker 1: enforcement was while she had a fight with her boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: she'll be back. Jennifer wasn't adult, and at that time
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Speaker 1: she was allowed to be missing. All they had to
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Speaker 1: say was this happens all the time. We'll have her
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Speaker 1: back in forty eight hours. And we were kind of
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Speaker 1: taken back by that. Told him we didn't like that.
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Speaker 1: You don't know, Jen, you don't understand. This isn't normal.
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Speaker 1: It was apparent I think in the early evening hours
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Speaker 1: that due to Jennifer's very strong family connections and the
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Speaker 1: way her family interacted, that we were dealing with something
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Speaker 1: that was suspicious and that she was in danger. That day,
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Speaker 1: when it started to get dark and they still hadn't
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Speaker 1: heard from her, it was like it just felt like crazy,
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Speaker 1: just you know what is happening and where is she?
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Speaker 1: But quickly there was a break in the case. Her
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Speaker 1: car is here, there will at least be DNA. Is
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Speaker 1: she in the trunk? I think it's apparents were a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna find. That's right. The
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Speaker 1: car was found, as we already know. Her home was
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Speaker 1: undisturbed or close laying out on the bed, she had
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Speaker 1: taken a shower, or everything seemed to be in place
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Speaker 1: in the home. We all agree that nothing unusual happened
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Speaker 1: inside her condo. The crime scene moves to where her
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Speaker 1: car is found. Listen, I'm serving looking for video cameras
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Speaker 1: because video cameras were becoming more and more prevalent in society.
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Speaker 1: Two surveillance cameras at the complex revealed evidence that would
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Speaker 1: become critical to the case. What does a video show?
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Speaker 1: It shows someone pulling into a parking spot very visible,
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Speaker 1: and the guess parking spot by the pull that correctly
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Speaker 1: parked the car, sat in the car for thirty two
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Speaker 1: seconds blocked out. The video recorded the car arriving at
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Speaker 1: twelve new on Tuesday the twenty fourth, the day Jennifer disappeared.
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Speaker 1: And when we see it in the surveillance footage that
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Speaker 1: we have, you're basically watching the person walk around the
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Speaker 1: outside of the fencing of the pool area. That's the
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Speaker 1: fencing you see in that film footage. It's incredibly grainy
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Speaker 1: that shot of the Carban park could have been anybody.
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Speaker 1: But in fact, we do have video. You're hearing our
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Speaker 1: friend greta ancestor and speaking to Joyce Cassie, this is
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Speaker 1: Jennifer's mom. We have video taken outside Jennifer's condo, bad luck,
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Speaker 1: that the person walked past a post and a fence,
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Speaker 1: a break and run armed fence and you couldn't see
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Speaker 1: the face. And we also have video from the car
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Speaker 1: where you see a person get out of the car.
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Speaker 1: Very grainy, now, isn't it true? Joyce Cassie, This Jennifer's mom.
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Speaker 1: Nothing is stolen from the car. There's a brand new
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Speaker 1: DVD player in there. And police came up with one
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Speaker 1: latent print and one piece a very tiny fiber DNA.
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Speaker 1: Is that right, Joyce? That's correct. There was a latent
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Speaker 1: fingerprint that didn't match anybody. But what we have since
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Speaker 1: found out after obtaining the police records is it was
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Speaker 1: Jennifer's latent print, and there is a fiber in the
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Speaker 1: car that they haven't done anything really with. So the
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Speaker 1: only thing that we do have is a piece of fiber.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Joyce, where was the print
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Speaker 1: found in the car? It's location could be significant. Where
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Speaker 1: was the print? Nancy? I don't know, Jue. Do you
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Speaker 1: know where the print was in the car? Yeah? I
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Speaker 1: believe it was on the dash, like the console. So
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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, So I'll tell you why I'm saying that,
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, Because let's just say, if the print
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Speaker 1: was upside down, if it was at an uptuse angle,
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Speaker 1: that would tell me, for instance, that there have been
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Speaker 1: a struggle in the car. That's why I'm asking about
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Speaker 1: the location in the direction of the print. See where
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Speaker 1: I'm going, Joe Scott, Yeah, dude, Nancy. And if in
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Speaker 1: fact it is some type of struggle, for instance, it
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Speaker 1: may or interaction that anyone had a very dynamic event.
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Speaker 1: You might have these in odd positions, you know, these
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Speaker 1: latent prints that are left behind. One other thing that
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Speaker 1: people really need to consider here, if they'll just think
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Speaker 1: for a moment, all of the actions you have to
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Speaker 1: go through in order just to enter a car opening
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Speaker 1: the door. Some people grab the outer frame, some people
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Speaker 1: grab the frame of the car, some people grab the
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Speaker 1: steering wheel to literally leverage themselves into the car. So
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Speaker 1: not only might you leave latent prints on the surfaces,
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Speaker 1: you could very well leave touch DNA. And that's why
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Speaker 1: I'm hopeful in regards to this case, if they picked
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Speaker 1: up something else that can be in the future, in
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Speaker 1: the very near future, maybe even the present. Now, they
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Speaker 1: could take the evidence they have, go over it again
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Speaker 1: and examine it very carefully for something that in the past. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're right about that, just scot because its got to
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Speaker 1: be evidence they already have because that car is gone now, Drew.
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Speaker 1: You know where the car is. You know the people
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Speaker 1: that have the car. But aren't they asking an arm
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Speaker 1: and a leg for the car. They weren't. At the beginning,
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Speaker 1: I had or people reach out to see exactly what
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Speaker 1: they would want for the car, and after they realized
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Speaker 1: whose care it was, it pretty much doubled. Not a
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Speaker 1: lot of money. I mean it went up to like
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Speaker 1: thirty five hundred dollars. But then we did research on
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Speaker 1: there was no GPS within the car. There was only
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Speaker 1: a black box, and we did the research if there's
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Speaker 1: any value within a black box to do what we
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Speaker 1: needed to do, and it came up as there's nothing
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Speaker 1: that would be able to be told to give us
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Speaker 1: information to move anything forward from a black box within
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Speaker 1: a car, and the car had no value to us.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're paying a car. So you know the
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Speaker 1: car is still out there, it's still in the state.
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Speaker 1: We know where it is. But we still have well
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Speaker 1: Orlando police departments still have nine canisters of what they
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Speaker 1: actually processed and vacuum data that car, so you know
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Speaker 1: there is still viable evidence within the police department. We
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Speaker 1: are not privy to that, which seems so unfair. And
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to your lawsuit in just a moment,
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan. If the car was properly processed in
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Speaker 1: other words, vacuumed, tell me what we could do now
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Speaker 1: with that evidence, if Orlando PDCs fit to do it,
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Speaker 1: if they'll just get off their ear end and do it.
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Speaker 1: If they processed this car correctly, and hopefully they did
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Speaker 1: back in time, that evidence could be taken now and reanalyzed,
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Speaker 1: say with the technology we have today as opposed to
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Speaker 1: the mid two thousands. This is the key though, and
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Speaker 1: we have to keep this in mind. This evidence, all
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Speaker 1: of it is very very fragile. So what is going
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Speaker 1: to be very important is how well have the Orlando
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Speaker 1: Police Department preserved that evidence in their evidence room? Is
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Speaker 1: it still viable? And that's you know, that's the big
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Speaker 1: question at this point, you know, when you consider kind
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Speaker 1: of how they've shut everything down in the face of
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Speaker 1: this investigation, and you know, the family is having to
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Speaker 1: do this all on their own. I just hope that
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Speaker 1: Orlando will have the good sense to come back to
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Speaker 1: this and revisit it with the technology that exists in
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Speaker 1: the present. Let me ask you a question, did Drew
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Speaker 1: Kessie what happened with the police? I mean, how did
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Speaker 1: this go so sideways? Do you have any idea if
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Speaker 1: they are test retesting the evidence with new DNA technique? No,
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Speaker 1: we don't, unfortunately, I guess you know two and a
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Speaker 1: half years ago now, it just got to the point
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Speaker 1: where we knew they weren't working on Jennifer's case and
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Speaker 1: we asked them to please make it a cold case
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Speaker 1: so we can get different resources and more money, to
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Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, and specialization of members. And
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Speaker 1: they said, no, no, no, open active, We're not doing anything.
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Speaker 1: And it probably got to the point for a year
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Speaker 1: we actually as a family were asking them formally and
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Speaker 1: writing please do this, please give us case files. We
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Speaker 1: don't want to go to court, but it's time and
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Speaker 1: they've refused us, and we just looked at them in
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Speaker 1: the ice that we're going to sue you and take
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Speaker 1: you to court for access to the files, and they said,
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Speaker 1: we'll do what you want, and they were very surprised
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Speaker 1: the day we did, but that was to us, if
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Speaker 1: you're going to sit there, then please step aside. We
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Speaker 1: personally care about our daughter, even if it's twelve years
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Speaker 1: later and now fourteen years later, which we're still in
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Speaker 1: court and we are not out of getting all the files,
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Speaker 1: and in fact they found files after they said they
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Speaker 1: gave us all the files recently and we're still working
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Speaker 1: on redactive files. So we're not out of court. Over
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Speaker 1: a year on a four month agreement. We're not out
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Speaker 1: of court yet. And the car was in process properly
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Speaker 1: because we do know of one instance where it looks
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Speaker 1: like there's a struggle on the hood of her car
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Speaker 1: and it was never processed. Explain to me about that,
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Speaker 1: Drew Cassey, and the bootprint as well. Well. We received
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Speaker 1: the files and within the files there's pictures of Jennifer's car,
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Speaker 1: and we had probably received four five pictures over the
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Speaker 1: years of Jennifer's car, but there's well over one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty pictures of Jennifer's car within the files, and
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Speaker 1: just looking through it one day when we first got them,
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Speaker 1: my investigative team as well as myself almost at the
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Speaker 1: same time, said, what's on the front of the car
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Speaker 1: that we've never seen before? And when you really look
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Speaker 1: at it, it looks like someone on the driver's front
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Speaker 1: side of the hood was slammed down chest first with
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Speaker 1: arms with almost like fingers dragging on the hood of
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Speaker 1: her car. And we're having a really hard time right now,
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Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, verifying if that is
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Speaker 1: really what we're seeing. Most people have said, yeah, there
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Speaker 1: was a struggle. On top of that, we have it
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Speaker 1: within the file that the detectives asked the processors to
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Speaker 1: It seems as though something happened down the hood of
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Speaker 1: the car process that within the files. There is nothing
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Speaker 1: I've read, as well as our investigative team and legal
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Speaker 1: team that it was processed, so nothing was done with that,
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Speaker 1: and it's there blatantly in a picture now as well.
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Speaker 1: We have a what I consider a pretty clear bootprint
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Speaker 1: at the bottom of Jennifer's gas pedal in the rug
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Speaker 1: that is obviously not Jennifer's, and it would, in my
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Speaker 1: eye almost have to be the last person in that car,
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Speaker 1: who was driving that car. And you know, we're just
21:26
Speaker 1: trying to work with that too. But again we're fourteen
21:30
Speaker 1: years down the road and money got and we try
21:36
Speaker 1: and raise what we can to move forward, but we're
21:39
Speaker 1: we're in a hard place right now. Nancy, what do
21:42
Speaker 1: you make of the video where the person is walking
21:45
Speaker 1: and they are obscured by the gate place, Well, we
21:48
Speaker 1: do know that that person is a perstitute. Drove Jennifer's car,
21:51
Speaker 1: pulled into a visitor's parking space, actually backed up to
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Speaker 1: straighten out within the space, sat in it for thirty
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Speaker 1: two seconds, presumably wiping it down, got out, walked away,
22:05
Speaker 1: never look back. And we know that there's other people
22:08
Speaker 1: in that film. But you know, if someone just pulls
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Speaker 1: into a parking space in a condo complex and someone
22:15
Speaker 1: gets out, mostly you don't pay attention to what have you.
22:18
Speaker 1: But there are other people in that film, but we
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Speaker 1: have never been able to identify that person whatsoever. Period.
22:26
Speaker 1: Justin Bush's Jennifer has disappeared. That person has disappeared. Also
22:34
Speaker 1: to Ashley Wilcot, judge, trial lawyer or anchor court TV
22:38
Speaker 1: at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Ashley, what can be done,
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Speaker 1: if anything, for the cassies to get the evidence and
22:49
Speaker 1: have it tested. There are experts all over the country
22:53
Speaker 1: that would for free test the evidence. Ashley. Oh. First
22:58
Speaker 1: of all, I think they've done the right thing. Regrettably,
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Speaker 1: they have a file of lawsuits. That was the right
23:03
Speaker 1: thing to do in my opinion. Get the judicial system
23:05
Speaker 1: involved when law enforcement twelve fourteen years down the road
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Speaker 1: is refusing to give you any information to conduct your
23:12
Speaker 1: own investigation. Second, I'm really hopeful, parful that the court
23:17
Speaker 1: is going to say, listen, whether law enforcement wants to
23:21
Speaker 1: call it an active investigation or not. And I know
23:24
Speaker 1: they're not doing anything, but that's how law enforcement protects
23:27
Speaker 1: records right to a court. They say, well, it's an
23:29
Speaker 1: active investigation, we cannot release details. So the court has
23:33
Speaker 1: to be convinced they've done nothing on the case, it's
23:35
Speaker 1: not active and it's in the public's interest for this
23:38
Speaker 1: file to be released. I'm fearful that happens, not just
23:41
Speaker 1: the file, but all the evidence, so that they can
23:44
Speaker 1: then test it. They've got to continue that battle because
23:48
Speaker 1: there's no legal reason I can think of that a
23:51
Speaker 1: court could not choose to order the police to release
23:55
Speaker 1: the evidence forward testing to the family to throw Joyce,
24:00
Speaker 1: so that say the case. Now. The sad part to me,
24:02
Speaker 1: Nancy is this should be investigated by police and the
24:06
Speaker 1: way that the family's investigating. But obviously that's not happening,
24:10
Speaker 1: so they need to continue to do that. The other
24:12
Speaker 1: thing that I wonder, realizing it was fourteen years ago,
24:16
Speaker 1: were there any traffic cameras, any surveillance videos. You know,
24:22
Speaker 1: a lot of times the reason as a parent, you
24:24
Speaker 1: want your to move into a new condominium is because
24:28
Speaker 1: it has the most up to date security in place.
24:32
Speaker 1: So I would also want to know is there any
24:35
Speaker 1: video from any person, or any facility, or any traffic
24:39
Speaker 1: cam that has more evidence of this far? You know?
24:42
Speaker 1: To Joe Scott Morgan, I can't help but go back
24:45
Speaker 1: over what Drew and Joyce Kessie are telling me about
24:48
Speaker 1: the bootprint and a struggle they believe happened on the
24:51
Speaker 1: hood of Jennifer's car. What can we do with that now? Well,
24:57
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that if the photographs that were taken at
25:00
Speaker 1: that time were of sufficient quality. And what I mean
25:04
Speaker 1: by that that the lighting was accurate, that the technology
25:08
Speaker 1: or that the technique that was used by the crime
25:10
Speaker 1: scene photographer was sufficient. It may, it may could be
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Speaker 1: enhanced to a certain degree to give a let's see
25:20
Speaker 1: a more solid picture of what's going on. Say, if
25:23
Speaker 1: you can use alternative light sources for the photography, enhance
25:28
Speaker 1: it to a certain degree to give you an idea
25:30
Speaker 1: of what kind of activity. Now, wait a minute, slowdown, slowdown,
25:33
Speaker 1: what do you mean put alternative light sources on the photo? Now?
25:38
Speaker 1: I mean I know that that works at a real
25:40
Speaker 1: crime scene. But we'll first of all explain to people
25:43
Speaker 1: listening what you mean by alternative light source and how
25:46
Speaker 1: would that work on a photo. Well, let me let
25:49
Speaker 1: me kind of rephrase that the technology that is used
25:52
Speaker 1: in order to enhance the photograph that already exists did
25:57
Speaker 1: not exist back then, And a lot of this is
26:00
Speaker 1: going to go to recapturing the image in real time.
26:05
Speaker 1: If you will, using the technology they have, and that's
26:08
Speaker 1: going to be enhanced lighting and highlighting on the photograph
26:13
Speaker 1: that they have, you can raise images up that otherwise
26:16
Speaker 1: would not have previously been visible, and we're talking about
26:20
Speaker 1: this from a high tech, from a computer enhancement perspective,
26:24
Speaker 1: as opposed to alternative light sources like ultra violet and
26:27
Speaker 1: those sorts of things that we employed at the scene
26:29
Speaker 1: at the time. Too. Ray Kaputo joining me Lee news
26:32
Speaker 1: anchor Orlando's Morning News WDBO Ray, does the city or
26:38
Speaker 1: Orlando and the surrounding area Metro Orlando. Do they remember
26:43
Speaker 1: the Jennifer Kessey case? Is it out front and center?
26:47
Speaker 1: Is it still discussed? Is it on anybody's mind? Nancy?
26:50
Speaker 1: Fourteen years later, this is still probably the most important
26:53
Speaker 1: missing person case in town. You know, no more than
26:56
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, was driving near my home
26:58
Speaker 1: and I got to an intersection, was at a red light,
27:00
Speaker 1: and I looked on the other side of the street,
27:01
Speaker 1: in a large transformer box on the corner, there is
27:04
Speaker 1: a big picture of Jennifer. We still see her picture
27:07
Speaker 1: up at grocery stores, bus stations, anywhere you go where
27:11
Speaker 1: they would put pictures of missing people. Jennifer's the first one.
27:14
Speaker 1: It's absolutely a case that's perplexed our talent, and people
27:18
Speaker 1: still care about this because when you see Jennifer, you see,
27:21
Speaker 1: you know, an everyday, young woman not doing anything wrong,
27:24
Speaker 1: doing everything right in her life, and it scares people.
27:27
Speaker 1: If this person is still out there, they can do
27:29
Speaker 1: somebody else to doctor Bethany Marshall, psycholeist joining me out
27:32
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills, Doctor Bethany something rageous. Said Ray Kaputo
27:37
Speaker 1: that when people see Jennifer's photo it makes them afraid.
27:42
Speaker 1: Why because in the face of the unknown, we project
27:46
Speaker 1: or imagine our worst possible fears. There are so many
27:49
Speaker 1: unknowns in this case, Nancy. If a body was slammed
27:54
Speaker 1: on the hood of that car, under what circumstances did
27:58
Speaker 1: that take place? If there is a heel of a
28:00
Speaker 1: boot that was not Jennifer Kessey's boot on the gas pedal,
28:05
Speaker 1: whose boot was it? If she was living somewhere, and
28:10
Speaker 1: you know there were construction workers, and the way the
28:14
Speaker 1: condo was when her parents entered it that morning, you know,
28:17
Speaker 1: there was a damp towel and clothing like she was
28:20
Speaker 1: just leaving for work like any other day, and then poof,
28:23
Speaker 1: she just disappears. There are so many unknown variables, and
28:28
Speaker 1: the fact is the police are holding onto the files
28:30
Speaker 1: to protect themselves and what they the police are perpetrating
28:34
Speaker 1: on the community. Is a story where there's lack of sunshine,
28:38
Speaker 1: there's lack of data, there's lack of knowledge about the
28:41
Speaker 1: specificity of what happened. You know, it's rooted deep in
28:45
Speaker 1: our evolutionary biological heritage that we are more afraid of
28:49
Speaker 1: things that we don't know than things that we do know.
28:53
Speaker 1: Meaning is something. Look, if somebody doesn't call you for
28:56
Speaker 1: three days, like let's say Lucy went to school, you tech,
29:00
Speaker 1: could you called, you couldn't get hold of her, You
29:02
Speaker 1: would be much more frightened with the unknown than if
29:06
Speaker 1: a teacher said, look, we're going to go on a
29:08
Speaker 1: field trip and you won't hear from her for three hours.
29:10
Speaker 1: That's known, So that I think that's what we're doing.
29:13
Speaker 1: This whole show is dedicated to, is turning the unknown
29:17
Speaker 1: into the known so people can be less afraid, and
29:20
Speaker 1: so Jennifer Cassie's parents can be you know, put their
29:23
Speaker 1: minds at rest and know the facts of what happened
29:26
Speaker 1: to her. Take a listen to this police press conference.
29:29
Speaker 1: We'll never stop looking for Jennifer. I was working the
29:32
Speaker 1: night she went missing. I remember to talking to Drew
29:36
Speaker 1: on the phone, and I remember hearing the voice of
29:40
Speaker 1: a very concerned and upset father, and I'll never forget it.
29:44
Speaker 1: Her parents, all those who love her deserve answers, and
29:48
Speaker 1: we will continue to work hard to provide those answers.
29:51
Speaker 1: You're hearing police as they address the case of Jennifer Cassie,
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Speaker 1: that mother, Joyce Kessie, that father j Kessie with us
29:59
Speaker 1: right now, still searching for answers, Nancy Grace Killers amongst us.
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,