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Episode 459 - “Old Tech, New Tricks: Ham Radios, Drones & Data Recovery!" · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Al Petrelli from the Transient Orchestra.
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  Speaker 2: Normally I'm not a nerd, but I am a tech
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  Speaker 2: talk radio god bless, stay safe.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Sean de Weird. We have got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: tech to talk about today. There's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We Now we always get together like before the
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  Speaker 1: show and we talk about like some of the things
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  Speaker 1: that all what interested you and what was said, and
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  Speaker 1: we were like going over going, well, I got this, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you got this, I got this, you got this, I
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  Speaker 1: got this, you got this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I felt like we had a lot
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  Speaker 2: last week.
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  Speaker 1: We did. Actually, I gotta tell you. Last week we
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  Speaker 1: gave out a website address. And the website address I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was kind of interesting. It was cool, right,
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  Speaker 1: you were looking at it on the air and you
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  Speaker 1: were kind of surprised by it. I had already, you know,
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  Speaker 1: taken a glance at it and was looking through it,
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  Speaker 1: and I was also impressed by it. That of course
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  Speaker 1: was TV dot Garden and TV dot Garden In case
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  Speaker 1: you missed last week's show or you haven't caught up
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  Speaker 1: on a yet. Is a website where you can go
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  Speaker 1: and there's a globe and you could point anywhere on
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  Speaker 1: the globe you want, So if you point to the
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  Speaker 1: United States, it'll show you pretty much every streaming television
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  Speaker 1: channel that is available for you to watch online. Now
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  Speaker 1: I know there's more than what they actually had, but
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  Speaker 1: it still was cool. The only one I could find
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  Speaker 1: a twoson was k Gun. K Gun nine was one
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  Speaker 1: of those streaming options. But if you want to find
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  Speaker 1: obscure channels, there are small mini channels that have been
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  Speaker 1: launching out, low power TV whatnot. But also you could
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  Speaker 1: find channels from around the world, so it was cool.
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  Speaker 1: I posted that on social media and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people were loving it. Matter of fact, it's the highest
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  Speaker 1: view count of any of the videos we had done.
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  Speaker 1: But then somebody had commented in there and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know it. There's a Radio Garden as well, and Radio
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  Speaker 1: dot Garden, and if you go there, it's the same premise.
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  Speaker 1: You can listen to any radio station around the world.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to stations from England, from India, from Spain,
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  Speaker 1: from Italy, from the United States and matter of fact, KGVY,
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  Speaker 1: the station we broadcast on, has just been added because
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  Speaker 1: I found it and added our station to it by
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  Speaker 1: suggesting that we be on there, and sure enough it
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  Speaker 1: was added earlier this week. So you can listen to
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  Speaker 1: streaming channels or listen.
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  Speaker 2: To another place. You can listen to us.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Radio dot Radio.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. And so we talked about like the TV
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  Speaker 2: Garden the radio garden rate. There's I'm gonna pitch in
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  Speaker 2: one of my other another really great radio website, which
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  Speaker 2: is WebSDR dot org, which is is a ham radio.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a website for ham radio people that have
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  Speaker 2: built these web SDRs basically software defined radios that you
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  Speaker 2: can have listened to Ham radio signals from around the world.
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  Speaker 2: You can tune men, you can listen to him, so
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  Speaker 2: you could from your computer listen to Ham radio signals
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  Speaker 2: from around the world. It's pretty it's pretty cool. If
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  Speaker 2: you're into amateur radio at all, at any capacity, or
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  Speaker 2: if you're interested in it, dial this up. Webstdr out
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  Speaker 2: of org. Find a webstr somewhere, even if it's in
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  Speaker 2: your region or if it's in the if you want
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  Speaker 2: to listen to something overseas, or it's just really cool
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  Speaker 2: to tune in and hear Ham radio stuff around the world.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of cool because I have a friend
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  Speaker 1: named Fu that's from Myanmar, from Burma, and I mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that last week of the show. She has been studying
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  Speaker 1: in England and she has a boyfriend, and her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: is into picking up the radios now and doing the
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  Speaker 1: shortwave radio. So if I found out when he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be on, I'd be able to actually tune
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  Speaker 1: in and listen.
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  Speaker 2: Depending on where he's broadcasting from, you would have to
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  Speaker 2: find something probably close ish to him, depending on when
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  Speaker 2: he's broadcasting and how much power is put now, but
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  Speaker 2: you could probably listen in and he'd pick him up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. We have an amateur radio club here in Green
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  Speaker 1: Valley and I know where the show is and I've
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  Speaker 1: thought about going in because honestly, I haven't had that
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  Speaker 1: much time with my radio and I really want to.
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  Speaker 1: I want to do it more because it just seems
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  Speaker 1: like it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you remember about two years ago on
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  Speaker 2: the show, we all got our GMRS licenses right, and
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  Speaker 2: and we were participating in the MYGMRS dot net, which
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  Speaker 2: had the Internet connected repeaters all around the country. Well,
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  Speaker 2: just over a year ago, the FCC put a kebash
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  Speaker 2: on Internet connected repeaters because it violated the use like that.
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  Speaker 2: There was some some legal ease they put in there
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  Speaker 2: that said, you basically can't have a repeater connect to
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  Speaker 2: the Internet because it violates the redistribution of the signal
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  Speaker 2: or something something. So that really cut my GMRS use out.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody here locally outside of like two people were talking
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  Speaker 2: on the gm RS repeater. So the guy that I
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  Speaker 2: was talking to every day while I was driving do
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  Speaker 2: it from work or traveling, you know, from where we
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  Speaker 2: go camping. They were all connected so I could just
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  Speaker 2: keep talking to them, just picking up different repeaters along
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  Speaker 2: the way. That just cut my amateur radio stuff in half,
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  Speaker 2: which was a bummer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then that the people locally to me, there was
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  Speaker 2: one lady that was just kind of got crappy and
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like ruined it for everybody, and the
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  Speaker 2: owner of the repeater said, nah, I'm done, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: dealing with this anymore and shut the repeater down.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: So outside of two meter, the two meter repeaters in
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  Speaker 2: town and some simplex stuff like I don't do a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of ham radio stuff every day. I still
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  Speaker 2: do some HF stuff and some listen. I do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of listening.
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  Speaker 1: But it was kind of cool because one of the
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  Speaker 1: things I remember you did, and this was a special event.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're still doing it, and there
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  Speaker 1: was somebody who was on the space station flying overhead
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  Speaker 1: and you were able to communicate or at least listen
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  Speaker 1: the way.
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  Speaker 2: So that happens all the time, right, So the space
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  Speaker 2: issue goes over all the time, right during the daytime
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  Speaker 2: when you can't see it, but you can pick up
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  Speaker 2: and listen to the VHF UHF repeater that's on the
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  Speaker 2: space station. And so I bought an arrow high game
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  Speaker 2: yaggy antenna so that I can have my radio set
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  Speaker 2: to a frequency because it's UHF up and VHF down.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to look at the sheet to remember off
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  Speaker 2: the top of my head. Can transmit on my radio
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  Speaker 2: to talk to the repeater and then listen to the
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  Speaker 2: to the other frequency on the down link. Here myself
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  Speaker 2: bounce off of that repeater and then other people hear
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  Speaker 2: it and can respond to me off that UHF repeater.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's a schedule that when some of the astronauts
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  Speaker 2: up there have their hand radio licenses, they will listen
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  Speaker 2: in and can actually respond to those calls from the
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  Speaker 2: space stations. There are specific times you can do it
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  Speaker 2: to get to get on board the space station and
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  Speaker 2: get actual contact from the space station. But yeah, I've
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  Speaker 2: got QSOs from you know, because when you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: think about it, right, it's it's way up. So when
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  Speaker 2: it's really low on the horizon and i'm i can,
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  Speaker 2: I can hit it with my antenna and talk to it.
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  Speaker 2: Those signals are being bounced over the visible curve of
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  Speaker 2: the Earth that I can see to the western part
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  Speaker 2: of the country or the eastern part, depending on which
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  Speaker 2: direction it's traveling. Right, So, yeah, I've got QSOs from
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  Speaker 2: all over the West coast and other places. I'd have
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  Speaker 2: to look at my log.
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  Speaker 1: But to anybody listening right now that has never thought
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  Speaker 1: about doing it or never, it's not an expensive hobby,
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  Speaker 1: is that? I mean? The radios they aren't too bad.
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  Speaker 2: Getting into HF can be expensive getting getting getting into
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  Speaker 2: the the HF bands can be a little bit prohibitive
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  Speaker 2: to new users. If you don't have a radio or
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  Speaker 2: have an antenna setup. You can really just build your
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  Speaker 2: own antennas, really, but each of radios. It's fun. I
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  Speaker 2: recommend listening for a while. First, right go to WebSDR
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  Speaker 2: just pull it up and see what you can tune in.
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  Speaker 2: Start it. You know, you have to get a license
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  Speaker 2: to do. You know, there's three different tiers of licensee
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  Speaker 2: of technician, general, an extra. I'm a general, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: the the second tier of the three, and that gives
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  Speaker 2: me enough privileges to do what I feel comfortable doing.
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  Speaker 2: But it's fun. You get to experiment, you get to
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  Speaker 2: play with it, and you know, you throw up a
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  Speaker 2: random piece of wire and now you're talking across the country.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. What would be a good website to
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  Speaker 1: go to to get more inful? If if somebody is
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  Speaker 1: like listening to this and I want to get into this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, like I said, the Green Valley Amateur
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  Speaker 1: Radio Club, they've got one. They do all kinds of events.
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  Speaker 1: But if they want to go to a web is
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  Speaker 1: there a website for this?
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  Speaker 2: So aid Rlso the Amateur Radio Relay League, which is
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  Speaker 2: like the kind of the catch all for the ham
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  Speaker 2: radio world. They're kind of the governing arm of Ham
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  Speaker 2: radio outside of the SEC, but find a local club.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, a lot of times your local clubs
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  Speaker 2: are gonna be the ones they are gonna be. They
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  Speaker 2: usually have monthly meetings, weekly meetings, et cetera. You'd be
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  Speaker 2: surprised how many repeaters are actually around you. So rl
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  Speaker 2: dot org. If you already have a radio and you
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  Speaker 2: want to listen, go to repeater book dot com to
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  Speaker 2: find repeaters around you. It'll give you put in your location.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you a radius of repeaters around you with
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  Speaker 2: their pl tones and whatever. Radio reference is another good one.
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  Speaker 2: That one will give you frequencies that you can listen to.
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  Speaker 2: So like it gives you your local municipality, It gives
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  Speaker 2: you your fire ems emergency stuff. It gives you local repeaters.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you other stuff like the university's public service
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  Speaker 2: stuff is on their school you know, the different schools board.
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  Speaker 2: You know the different school corporations have their stuff on there.
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  Speaker 2: The airport frequencies are on there. A lot of what
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  Speaker 2: I have fun doing with Ham radio stuff is just listening. Right,
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  Speaker 2: You can do a lot of listening, but you can
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  Speaker 2: get into it relatively inexpensively for two meter and seventy
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  Speaker 2: centimeters two meter which is UHF or VHF Yeah, VHF
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  Speaker 2: and UHF two meter, seventy centimeter which is gm RS,
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  Speaker 2: and then the lower tier of the HAM radio bands.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's fun. You gotta study a
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  Speaker 2: little bit if you're interested in taking the test, or
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking about taking the test. Hamstudy dot org. They
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  Speaker 2: have an app you can deleraate your phone take practice tests,
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  Speaker 2: is what I did.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not completely hard to get into. It
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  Speaker 2: takes a little bit of effort, just like any hobby
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  Speaker 2: to get experience on. But if you find a local club,
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  Speaker 2: you can go and ask questions, join their Facebook group,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's something to think about too. And we're
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  Speaker 1: speaking about hobbies, so we got to mention this one.
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  Speaker 1: I went out this week buddy of mine, Chuck Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: No relation is into radio. It's it's not radio controlled.
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  Speaker 1: It's control line airplanes model airplanes. So they have they
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  Speaker 1: sit in the circle. They stand in a circle and
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  Speaker 1: basically these airplanes with motors they go around. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they fuel him up and everything and then they go
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  Speaker 1: and they can make do effects with him. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's one of the oldest clubs in America, and
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  Speaker 1: he asked, I go out there, you know, and just
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  Speaker 1: shoot some drone footage, and I thought, wow, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: taken out the drone in months. So I went ahead
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  Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, I'll do it. So I charged
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  Speaker 1: up the batteries and everything, made sure I had all
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  Speaker 1: the cards, made sure the firmware was updated. I've got
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  Speaker 1: the DJI Mini three, and I went out there and
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  Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun, which then got me thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody the other day asked me about shooting a birthday
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  Speaker 1: party a video going in video video graphing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as a paid service. Can I come out do videos,
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  Speaker 1: take photos? And I yeah, sure, I've done that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing before. And then he wanted drone footage. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's uncomfortable because they say, well, I can't
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  Speaker 1: do the drone because if I'm charging you because I
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  Speaker 1: have I don't have a Part one oh seven license.
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  Speaker 1: So I started going online and looking at some of
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  Speaker 1: these courses where they say, hey, we can help get
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: you part one o seven. We've got all the study
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  Speaker 1: manuals and everything else. And then I thought of something.
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  Speaker 1: I I after looking at this ready to sign up
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  Speaker 1: right now. And I don't know if we never know
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  Speaker 1: when it's going to end, but right now, the government
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  Speaker 1: isn't shutdown, let's face it, right, So I looked it up.
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  Speaker 1: Not doing any drone certifications right now, matter of fact anything.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to licensing, you got.
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  Speaker 2: Hamber Ham radio licensing too, right, So you can't even
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  Speaker 2: get an FRN number. You can't get you can't apply
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  Speaker 2: for your license, et cetera. So until the shutdown gets
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  Speaker 2: taken care of, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 1: Can't even you can't even add your phone number to
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  Speaker 1: a do not call registry radio license, drone license, you
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. So you might as well wait until
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  Speaker 1: we see when this blows over, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the agencies are back together and however long that takes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Jennifer, you ended up flying I intered flying
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  Speaker 2: U and it was good.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. It was at a
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  Speaker 1: park open. There was somebody though that had that came
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  Speaker 1: out and brought their drones too, and they had the
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  Speaker 1: little mini drones. But they were sitting in their car
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  Speaker 1: like they weren't standing like I'm standing there with the
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  Speaker 1: remote control. They're sitting in their car. They're wearing a headset,
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  Speaker 1: so they've got the I guess they call them FPV Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: FPV drones, and they make a lot of noise, those
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  Speaker 1: little guys. But yet they moved pretty fast, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought that that would be kind of cool to check
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  Speaker 1: out as well. But I was just having fun with
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  Speaker 1: the controller, but it was you know, it's funny. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about you. With a hobby. You start doing
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  Speaker 1: it and then you want to just go more into it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you wanted to like do more of it.
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  Speaker 2: You guys have seen my basement. How many hobbies do
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  Speaker 2: you think I have?
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  Speaker 1: You have question?
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  Speaker 2: I have too many. And I get super invested in
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  Speaker 2: one hobby for like eight months, nine months, twelve year,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'm just like, eh, yeah, next, and then
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  Speaker 2: I get supervolved in the next hobby, and then I
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  Speaker 2: cycle back and then into the next the other hobby
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  Speaker 2: again for a long time. Yeah. No, it's uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have a problem.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I'll get into some tech stuff. Kind of
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  Speaker 1: interesting because I have seen a lot of people now
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: that are talking about and you know, some people it
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: took their their steps to get into chat, GPT, and
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: then they're trying out some of the other AI services now.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: But now a lot of people are talking about Copilot,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: which of course you know a big part of Windows
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: eleven and you know, they're really trying to get a
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: lot of people to use it and one of the
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: newest features of course voice chat on Copilot. Some people
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: have compared it to if you think about it in
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: your home, maybe you have an Alexa device, or you
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: have Siri, or you have you know, Google device, And
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: people are saying, well, you can actually have conversations. You
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: could have it do stuff for you, and you could
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: do it now if you wanted your microphone to always
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: be listening for you know, you to be able to
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: ask it something, it can do that, or you could
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  Speaker 1: turn off and there's shortcuts. But again you could be
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: sitting in your computer just hit a button and now
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: have response from Copilot. But some people are saying, well,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Copilot is a lot different than with shat, GPT or
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  Speaker 1: some of the other AI services out there. Just I
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  Speaker 1: still have not come to the idea of running it
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  Speaker 1: on my system. Have you had a chance to experiment
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  Speaker 1: with it all?
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  Speaker 2: It's immediately it turned off for me. The Windows a
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  Speaker 2: lot I just can't wrap my head around integrating an
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: AI into my machine. I just don't. I just don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's weird to think about it. I
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: understand AI's purpose, I understand it's a tool. I don't
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: know if I want it on my machine. What benefit
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: is it going to do on my machine that I
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: haven't used it? So maybe I don't know yet, But
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I just don't foresee myself. Like anything I'm doing on
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: my computer, I already know what I want to do now.
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  Speaker 1: For our listeners that don't want to have this, it
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  Speaker 1: can be stopped or removed. It's not yeah, or you
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  Speaker 1: have it. It's like one drive. If you don't want
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: to use one drive, you don't have to. I have
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: one computer that uses well, two computers that use one drive,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: and the rest of them don't.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. You can't completely delete copile from your computer,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: but you can disable it and prevent it from running,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: so it is possible to at least quickly. That's to
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: say a lot of people are just wanting to disable it.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: It's just like I.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Wish again, I wish Windows would just give us a
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: clean version, no bloat.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they give us without the bloat, without the having
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: to do this, having to do that. Just here, this
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: is what it can do to get stuff done. But
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: then that's when people will say, well, that's why you
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: have Linux.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Right, which is outside of So I've got this rig
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: that I'm on now which has Windows on it, which
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: is my gaming rig and my streaming ring. I have
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: a Mac which runs Mac os Tahoe now and I've
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: just been installing Linux and everything else. It's just just
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: easier to use, Easier, faster to get up and running,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: faster to install things, faster to do stuff, easier to
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: quickly do things. I just put it on a I
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: have an Aceus Rock laptop that I got from a
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: friend of mine who was getting a new one and
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: put Linux on it and it runs amazing on there.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And I've been using it for hard drive moving content
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: off hard drives into my mass and it's super quick.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: And Linux doesn't care what file format your drives are.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: It'll read NFS, it'll read or NTFS, it'll read x FAT,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: it'll read whatever. So I can copy stuff quickly that
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: way and look at drives and format them, and I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: just did. I was on a mission last night trying
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: to find I got my old this is going to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: be a little bit, a little bit of a throwback.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: This is kind of what I was getting at with
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: why I want a clean version of Windows eleven. My
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: mom gave me back a laptop that I had given
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: her for just used around the house, probably in two
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: thousand and seven. Right, it was the first laptop that
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I had bought with my own money. I bought it
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: with my high school graduation money from when I went
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to college.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It was a Toshiba Latitude or Toshiba Satellite, sorry, Toshiba Satellite,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: single core petty and four running three point four gigaherts.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: And so she gave that back to me, and I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: pulled the hard drive out of it, and I was wondering,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you know what this is when I first started playing
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: World of Warcraft on I wonder if I can recover
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: any of my old screenshots.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of cool. Yeah, So of.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Course, like I had deleted stuff, but I never formatted
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the hard drive.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Well, even if you formatted you might still be able
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to get something.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So what I did, and I haven't gone through all
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the photos yet, is I ran I looked at I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: just looked it up, but I got to look at.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Make sure I tell you guys to rate the right
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: software that I used for it was. I used the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: a data recovery utility that's free. It's called PhotoRec Photo Recovery.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Via another open source service called test disc, which is
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: kind of there's a data hoarders subreddit and a data
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: recovery subrendit that I'm on just for curiosity, which is
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: this is highly recommended in there. It took me two
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: minutes to install it. Hold the followed the instructions on
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: their website and let it scan this old hard drive
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: which was an ide A two point five inch IDE drive,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: which I have a USB to IDE adapter, so I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: just plugged it in, plugged it in a USB, let it
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: read it saw that it was an eighty eighty gig
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: hard drive and let it rip and it found I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: told it, just find any media images you can find
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and just let it let it spin for took an
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: hour and a half to do it. And now I've
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: got you know this program if free?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Just wow, sudo pseudo app to get discy too. Whatever.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: This is. This is what I use chatty bt for.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It's like, here's this program, I want, how do I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: install in? How do I run it? One of the best,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: one of the best ways to run the software, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: chatty bt does a does a really great job of
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: kind of it's not always accurate, which is unfortunate. But
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: this is what I like about Linux is that it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: all community based, right, so I can just go to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: forums and look and search and find uh ways to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: run this. I was up and running on this software
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: in a matter of minutes.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So I've used for data recovery the first time, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I've been doing data recovery for years. I've recorded recovered
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: drives that you know, they were formatted the whole bit.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: The first one I ever used was super powerful, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that was for a company called Kroll. It was held
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on track and it was a very expensive program, and
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: we had them on the show and they gave me
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a license to use and it was amazing at number one,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the speed and how it was able to recover files
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: on the whole bit. And then you know that it's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: been years, so it kind of degraded a little and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: at this point I didn't want to pay for another license.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I found another one called easy Us and they make
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: all kinds of they make backup software, they make security software,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the partition software, and of course they have a data
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: recovery software and that one works really well as well.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That one's not too expensive. Wasn't that bad, wasn't like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the other ones. But easy us works really good as well.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And again it'll do that whole bit. It'll look for
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: files that have been deleted on your current partition, even
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: look for files that have been that have just gone
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and it will find them.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this scan the whole drive, right, I told it,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I don't care about the petition, just scan the whole
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: drive bit for bit and tell me what you find.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So I was going through it now. My mom had
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: added a lot of photos to it, so it found
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of the photos my moment, but it found
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: some stuff that I even remember right from so I'm
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: still got you know. It ended up being like fifty
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: two folders worth of images or from different sectors on
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the drives, and I went through about twenty of them
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: last night before I was like, oh, it's one o'clock
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in the morning, I should probably go to bed, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: so I got to go through some more tonight after
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the show. But it's really cool because it made it
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: really easy to back up content. Right this fall, we
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: just had a yard sale where I went through I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: yard saled a ton of my old computers, a ton
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: of my old laptops that you know, had been given
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to me from fam by family members, friends, my sister
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in law, my wife, laptops that used in college that
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they didn't care about anymore, pulled out the hard drives,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: just sold the machines for petties on the dollar. But
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: then I was like, you know what, let's just back
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: up all these you know, maybe they want the pictures
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that are on here, and or maybe they want Hey, Laura,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and my sister in law, Lauren, she went to Michigan
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: State and it pulled. I was able to pull stuff
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: from when she was in colleague back in two thousand
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and five, two thousand and six, when she was in college.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So it's it's cool how easy it was to do.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Just pop the drive into this little reader and no lix,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Linux just sees it. I can mount it, I can
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: pull the copies over and.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: If you're a if you're a Windows user, you can
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you can find the same kind of hardware. I used
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Kingwin that's one of them I've used.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to confuse people to say you
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: can only do this on Linux, right. I could have
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: easily have just done this on my computer with the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: same USB drive and stuff. It's just I was having
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: issues getting it to read some of the older drives
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that may have not been Linux does a little bit
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a better job of reading drives that may be corrupt
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: or may have issues in different file formats and stuff.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So I was just playing with Linux anyways. So it
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was just a piece to play with.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So I know that sand Disk. They put out a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: drive and actually gave me a recovery software that came
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: with the drive when I bought it, and ISD.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a big promotion for a long time
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: where it was like, by the way, you buy your
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: your SD card, here's some photo recovery software. Now it's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: either could be two things. Either they really want you
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to have the software, or you're buying a bad batch
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and you need the software. So here's here's the drive.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: By the way, here's the recovery software you're gonna need
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: six months down of the road in the drive fails. Boy,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: which if you said SanDisk.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, So do you remember Ocean Gate, Yes, yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: The Titan submercible that that imploded.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll tell you what. We are up against the clock.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So we got to take a break. You've got more
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: info on this uce gate and this is recent, so
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we come back. We will talk more about that with
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• 25:08
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• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Right before the break, we were talking about sand disk
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and some file recovery software and stuff. Well, I think
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: this tops the list in terms of photo recovery.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: All right, photo recovery, and it has something to do
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: with Oceangate. If for our listeners don't remember, do you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: want to explain with that?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So ocean Gate is the is the submersible that
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the billionaire from overseas built and kept going to the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Titanic and took a bunch of people down and then
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it imploded and killed the people on board.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Stuff everybody.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the depth of the ocean, right at that depth,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it's like this ridiculous pressure and all stuff. So they
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: ended up finding some They found the wreckage right by
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: going down with robotics submersibles and finding it, and they
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: found that one of their underwater cameras was discovered largely intact,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and it contained a sand disc memory card that they
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: were able to recover twelve stills and nine videos from
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: my so if you go, if you just go to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a tech tech spot has this on there on their blog.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: But there's this whole investigation's happening, so it's all being
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: very very thoroughly investigated, and there's a really good write
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: up on here's what the camera was, Here's what they
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: did to clean it, Here's what they found, really detailed
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: images of the circuit board and the memory card and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: like the actual camera that was damaged, and it's pretty oppressive,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: but that's pretty cool for them to be able to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: get down in there. The card was still encrypted, so
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: it must have been a proprietary camera platform they were using.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: But like they were able to be able to they
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: were able to remove the env ramchip and copy it
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to a surrogate card it was crazy what they had
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to do, but it's suppressive that this little piece of
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: flash memory survived.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: And we're talking it's been underwater for a while. I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: mean yeah, almost two years ago and we're just hearing
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: about that. I don't know if they recovered it right
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: away or if they just recovered it recently, but wow,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. None of none of the photos or videos were
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: from from the final dive, unfortunately, well fortunately, I guess
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want to stand fortunately, but.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so be interesting though, maybe if it'll give
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: them any insight as to what really happened, what was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the situation that could have caused it. I think they
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: know anyways, but it's still that could be something else.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Wowty crazy SD cards still forget it's.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: A pretty good uh pr for sand disk.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like their I like their backup drives of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: use there there. I have had a couple of thumb
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: drives go south and where suddenly you can't write to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: them anymore. That's happened.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: But other than that, no, I mean they have a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: pretty cool PRK now, right, there's nothing more crushing than
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: losing your memories.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, right, It's true. Man, boy, are you.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: We were talking about something else too that you want.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You wanted to mention this website that I thought was
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: actually kind of cool. I've got another one for you
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to mention as well that you want to check out.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: So I thought about this the other night because I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: was going through that old hard drive, right, and because
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I still had the Windows the Windows file structure, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was able to see some of the older software that
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I had on there, like Ventrillo and team Speak, Wow
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: and MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger and the software that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I used in college, which to this would have been
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: two thousand and five, two thousand and six, two thousand
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and seven. And so then I was like, man, where
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I where can I even I even get these files,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: these softwares anymore? And I was like, there's this website
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: that I remember, so I just google it during the break.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's called old version dot com because new wor's not
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: always better old rights, right. So we were just talking
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: about how Andy was editing the show and his drive
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: footage in premiere and was having issues with the four
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: K footage having the wrong codec. He wasn't playing right,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: ended up putting it into black Magic. DaVinci Resolve, which
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: is free for their base version.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: And completely handled it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And it completely handled it a problem. So what is
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: he getting out of premiere? He couldn't because he only
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: had this. He would have to pay for the newest version.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: He would have to pay for the subscription. So sometimes
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: new work isn't always better because to pay for that
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: subscription before. It's like if you wanted an older version
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of something, like if you upgraded to a new version
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of a messenger platform or something, how do you go backwards?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Because a lot of places don't want you to go
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: backwards because they're updating bugs, security issues, et cetera. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you can go back and there's just tons of different
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's hundreds of softwares on here that you
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: can go back and find.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You actually a download these and use them.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: They have they have the old versions of them still
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to go all the way back, like
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: MSN Messenger probably the number one messaging platform that I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: used since I started using the internet. I MEANAI it's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: a well messenger, right, you can go and they it
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: looks like they have I don't know, they've got a
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: ton they have seven different builds. It looks like that
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you can go all the way back. It doesn't tell
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: me when they were built, right, MSID Messenger seven point five.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Will you have to be careful though about where you're
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: getting these from.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure everybody take this with a grain of salt.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Don't go here and just start downloading old files and
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: start installing them, right, do little research. This is just
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: me saying I like the site because I found one
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: old version of a software that I needed one time.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't gone on here and downloaded a ton of these.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: They could be malicious. They could have torrents, they could
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: have trojans whatever.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Practice safe browsing, yeah, exactly, use common sense.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Don't just click because like this is gonna be one
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: of those websites that you click on the download link.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It's gonna pop up and say click this to download now, right,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: But it really is the link to pages down that
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you need to click on to download it. It's they
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: try and trick you. But if you are in search
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of an old version of software that you know you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: had or you know you need because you're running Windows X,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: if you're running a legacy system that's running Windows ninety eight,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Windows XP, whatever, offline, I hope go here old old
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: version dot com, play out with it, see what works
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: for you. Maybe you can find the version of software
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you're looking for.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: My daughter asked me the other day, the one that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: lives in Phoenix that likes she likes you remembers the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: old school video games. And I know that there's you
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: know what, what is it galic? Is it Galaxy at
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Games or gog?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Good old games.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Good Old Games is a website where you can find
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: some of the older games, whether it be tomb Raider
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: or Pack or whatever. You could find these tigns. And
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: she was asking if I could build a Windows an
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: old Windows computer, an xpeak computer with need for Speed
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: road Rash, the one with the motorcycles that you would
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: raise Redneck gram Page some of those games she would
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: play because I had them on my machine. And I'm like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I think maybe it could happen. Just don't connect it
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to the net. I wouldn't recommend that, but you could
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: have fun playing the local games yourself. That would be
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: something that would be kind of cool, and then maybe
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: have some fun with these these programs as well. Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yah, there's a there's always going to be a community
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: built around vintage gaming, classic gaming. There's a great suburb
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: that's just called Windows XP or wind XP. It's all
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: about building machines that are xpeak kept compatible and it's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: fun because that community. What they do is they push
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the boundaries of what Windows XP can run. So there's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a running list of what's the current generation of something
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that Windows XP can run on. And I think they're
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: up into like some core to duo stuff. You can
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: run a GTX six sixty. There's very specific hardware requirements
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: for Windows XP that they're pushing the boundaries on for
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: custom drivers that are made for nvidio cards or AmfD
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: cards or certain hardware to push the boundaries of what
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: can be run on Windows XP, which is pretty cool.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really cool. All right, I've got a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: website to mention now. We already mentioned radio dot Garden.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: You can find radio stations from around the country. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: were just talking about video editing. I want to make
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a point. While I have not been wanting to, I've
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: been upset because Adobe of course went the route of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: subscription based. Heather row local reporter had commented. She showed
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a picture She said, I wish I missed the days
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: of being able to own software that you could download
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: or you could you know, install and run on your computer.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And it was a picture of Creative Suite five to five,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: which is the suite that I've had as well in
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the past. And you know, the thing is, the new
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Adobe software is powerful. Don't get me wrong. While I
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: maybe have not the idea of spending seventy dollars a
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: month on software that I may be able to use,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you know, at this point, it's just not beneficial for
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: me to eat that subscription costs. I am familiar with
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the older software. It does what I needed to do,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you know, except in the case of the drone footage
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: where it couldn't handle the higher resolutions. But the new
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: software from Adobe is great. They can do some things
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in Photoshop and stuff in Premiere after Effects that it's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: just mind boggling. Right, Well, there's another site. While I'm
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: using Da Vinci Resolve now and I love it. I'm
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: now getting the flow of it. Oh, here's how you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: do a fade. And I'm finding a lot of extras
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that are a part of it that weren't a part
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of the suite that I had with Premiere pro So
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Graphics and some other effects. I'm like okay, cool, I'm
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: finding these out. But there's another one. It's called OpenShot now.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: OpenShot dot org is a website for open shot. It's
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: a open source video editor that could be used for Linux,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: mac Os, and Windows. It can be it's really designed
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: for you if you're like a beginner and you're getting
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: into it that you could do trimming, scaling, You could
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: do transitions, so if you have a couple of scenes
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: back to back, you can have you know, a wipe
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: or a fade or dissolve. It also could do audio mixing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: You could download it from their website safely. Also offers
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a cloud API if you want to integrate video editing
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and your own application. But again it's open source and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it's free, so again you can take a look at
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: OpenShot dot org and see if something that maybe could
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: work for you.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta remember open source stuff. It gets
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: built by the community, it get supported by the community,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: it gets great ideas from the community. So it's like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you got it. You can take a risk and try
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: it and it's not gonna hurt anything. And it's if
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: it does what you need to do are the open
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: source community.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's certainly worth it. All right, I'll tell you
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: what we have listener questions standing by. Let me this
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: is this. This is one of the questions that we got.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So I have an Android device and I'm sick of
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the spam calls. Trust me, I feel that pain. I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: get him too. Uh, she's some Sometimes I block them
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and the next day, different number, same recorded message. How
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: can I block these? All right, So we're gonna give
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: a solution to you. If you've been looking to try
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and block spam calls on your smartphone, It's actually not
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that difficult to do. You'll still have to deal with voicemail,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: but we'll do that when we come back. I'm Andy Taylor,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I'm Shonda Ward.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Find us on the web at TikTok radio dot com.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Hold you rebec and now back to tech Talk Radio.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So spam a lot of people get them. Whether you're
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: getting spam mail, that's one thing, but if you're getting
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: spam voice calls and voice messages, it could be really frustrating.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I've talked to other business owners that tell me they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: get the same thing, whether it be somebody saying we
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: need to verify your Yelp account and they get two
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: or three of those A day, or they get them
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that hey we're finalizing the loan deal. You feel like
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: you haven't applied for a loan or anything. So if
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you want to block calls, you just don't want to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: have to deal with them. Here's one of the things
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you do. You could set your phone to ring only
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: for people on your contact lists. Now, that could be
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: difficult if you're running a business. However, it will allow
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: people to leave a message, and of course the spam
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: calls can still leave a message, but you don't have
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to deal with it interrupting your day. So if you
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: have an Android phone, one of the things you could
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: do is use the do not disturb mode. Then you
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: could set an exception to allow calls from contacts only,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: or even just favorite contacts like finally want to let
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Sean get you know in touch or you know Gloria
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: or my boss. Those are the only three that can
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: get through. Everybody else goes to voicemail. It'll do the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: same for messages as well, so somebody wants to text you,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: it's not going to bother you. On an iPhone, Now
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you go to settings, your phone enables silence unknown colors.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: You can also use do not Disturb and set it
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to allow calls only from your contacts.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: So I've got I've got mindset to silence unknown callers, right.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: But I was just telling Andy during the break we
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: were talking about this segment. I got one that it
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: just came up. They can spoof the iOS contact cards,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: so it just said healthcare and then the phone number underneath,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: so it looked like a contact was calling me, but
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: it's AID Healthcare. And I was like, I don't even
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: have a contact called healthcare. So they were able to
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: spoof a contact card and it just had Healthcare. So
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: it's like a little freaked out of all that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, and somebody, somebody said, we'll just
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: change your number.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, because that's a paid of the rear end, and then.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: You might change it to a number that's been getting spam,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: so you know, that's that's one of the things. It's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: really weird though, because we move moved a number that
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: we had originally as our Skype number, we moved it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to the iPhone. We never got spam ever on the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Skype number, but we do on the iPhone now, and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: it's the same YELP calls that's not really Yelp.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: The listener that said, just change your phone number like that,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: think about it twenty years ago, twenty years ago. All right,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that's I've had that same phone number twenty years I
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: think thirty years ago. Just back a over for there,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: every ala line you could couldn't change your number without
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: paying a big fee.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: And then even then, when you got a cell phone number,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: it was still kind of a pain in the around
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: to change it because you had to tell you had
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to tell everybody to get rid of your own contact
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: phone number, new phone who dis right? So the question
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: is how long have you had your current phone number.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I've had the same phone number the entirety of my
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: cell phone existence. And it's interesting to think back. Okay,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: well we got those phones because I had to share
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: a phone with my brother when I was in high school.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: This would have been two thousand and two thousand and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: one maybe, and we were on US Cellular. US Cellular
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: got bought by all Tel, all Tail, God Bob by.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Veracids, right, all of it. And the thing about it
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the numbers floating around there. When there's a hack your
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: numbers out there, you know the number has.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Been out there for who knows how long now, But
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: you know, there's some protections for consumers in place, but
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: it's still it just feels like it comes in waves. Right,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: It'll be no spam calls for a while, and then
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: something will change in the law or somebody will figure
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: something out, and then all of a sudden, you're just
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: getting inundated with phone calls. And it's interesting because if
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you're at work and you start getting spam calls, it's
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: kind of freaky when other people around you also get
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: spam calls at the same time, at the stay or
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: around the same time, or within the same time period.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I'm getting a spam call. Five minutes
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: say hey, I'm geting a spam call. It's like they're
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: in some sort of algorithm that's like tracking us down.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if forwarding your your call, if you you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: have you have a Google Voice number, just forward everything
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: to a Google Voice number. But you're still dealing with
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the same thing.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so screening your calls.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Speaking of hacks, and there's a big story about Gmail
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: passwords about one hundred and eighty three million accounts apparently
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: could have been leaked. And while Google is saying that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: it's really not. You know, that's not it's not a
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: big issue. It's not as it's inaccurate. Others are saying, no,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it is. And there's a website. If you've never checked
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the website, have I been poned? It is one to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: take a look at. Uh, and it's have I Been
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: pw nd D? Is it dot com or dot or
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: dot com? Yeah? Dot com. So if you go to that,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you can enter your information safely. Don't do a password,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: but you could do your email and it will tell
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you if your email is flowing out there in the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: wild as being one that was recently leaked, and could
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: even tell you if your password could be one of
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: those that piece of information that's out there.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: So my Gmail's fine. There are two breaches, one from
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: December of twenty eighteen and one from August of twenty thirteen.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So my Gmail, my Gmail counts pretty good. Let's see.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Let's see my hotmail.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: It's my hot mail been okay, Yeah, you still use hotmail.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: That's my primary I've had that. Yeah, I still Yeah,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: so I everybody, everybody, They they keep trying so hard. Microsoft,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: just trying so hard to get me to switch it
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: to an outlook.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, nah, this is I created this. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: don't know why I decided to just pick Sean de
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Weird at hotmail dot com back back. But this is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: the same email address I've had, literally as I've had
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: an email address.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would have been nineteen ninety eight, maybe
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: even earlier. It's like, I can't get it up. Sorry,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't even exist. Yeah, twenty one.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Data breaches for hot mil oh ouch ouch. Alright, So
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: hot Topic advanced, autoparts, hot topictt.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Park, Mobile, Drive, sure Start, Tribune, zinga Store, Envy World,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: twenty fifty, p X, live Journal, God live Journal.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're got.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Split Adobe, Tumblr, Dropbox, there's a there's a couple of the.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: You know, they got more techie as as the years
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: from hot Topic to Dropbox. Yes, that's buddy, all right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I went through I don't want to call it like
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a EMO phase. I I bought man. Well, so hot
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Topic was the only place like this is back when
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: you actually had to go to stores to buy stuff.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: For those people who are listening that don't buy stuff
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: from actually brick and more stores anymore. They were the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: only place that was a legitimate place to buy gaming
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: T shirts. Right, because like you couldn't buy I bought. Yeah,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: they were kind of like the off the cuff store,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the the rebellious store, right, so you could go buy
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: your Halo two T shirts or you know, your gaming
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: T shirts that were a little more violent than what
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Jac Pennies would sell. Now you can just buy it
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: all online, right whatever. But hot topic was where I
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: bought a lot of my T shirts because I liked
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: you know, I had a super Mario Brothers T shirt,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I had a duck On T shirt, and I had
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a bunch of retro gaming T shirts that you couldn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: get anywhere else. Success hot topic.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool though. Yeah, hot topic. That
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: brings back some memories though. All right, so you can
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: look this stuff up yourself. Have I been pooned? Ponned,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: p a w poned p A p w just PWND
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: So have I been pwn d? Dot com? You can
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: type in that email address and see if that has
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: been the subject of a data More than more than
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: likely it had. But it gives you something to be
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: concerned with when that information is out there, what other
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: information goes along with it? Now, for anybody who has Gmail, Okay,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you want to be safe, change your password and use
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a password manager. Don't use the same password. We see
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: this too often where somebody just says, I'll just use
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the same password, use the same password for this and
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: that and that and that, and a lot of the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: people out there that want to get into your accounts
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and want to see what you they know that and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: if they're able to hack one, they could possibly hack
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the elbow.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And that question comes up too, right. We've talked about
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: this on the show with Justin and Matt too. It's
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: like password managers, are they worth it? Yes, they are,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: just there's one specific one I would highly tell you
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: to avoid, and this Last Pass, right because they got
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: hacked more than once and it's just been a nightmare
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: for Last Pass and if you go to their website
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you would never know they got hacked, and it's just
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: kind of a shady thing. But the Apple pastor Manager
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and one Pass are my two recommendations for people if
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you're on a Mac and you want to stay in
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the macworld. The Apple password manager across all your iclod
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: accounts that are super easy to.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Use, haven't they They've just updated that too with the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: new iOS, haven't they.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I believe. So I don't use it. It's just recommend
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: it because it's part of the Apple ecosystem and becomes
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: highly recommended across the Mac platform.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: One pass is phenomenal.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: One pass is phenomenal. I use it personally and then
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: we use it at the enterprise level at work, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: it's just it's it's great. It's super easy to use.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Caitlin and I have both have it on your phones.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: You can sync it to your biometrics. You can use
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: it for your face ID, so if you have passwords
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: staved in it, you can set one password to do
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: face ID. You can have it to use the fingerprint
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: scanner like on my MacBook or you know. So it's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: one password is by far, I think the best, the
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: best password manager that is out there right now.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the bio keys, Like I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: have a Ubi key and you know, you plug it
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: into the USB port and your thumb can then set
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like a biometrics can do that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So you're talking like a biometrics two factor Yeah. I mean,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: if you're really concerned about security, sure, I think an
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: actual physical biometric security could be beneficial. I don't think
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: it's necessary. I think if you're if you're practicing and
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: using safe passwords and not using duplicates and not you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: using your dog's name is your password or password one two, three,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: four five or password or yeah, or filling out a
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: survey at Facebook that's the top ten targets for password
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: fishing is like what streets you grew up a what
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: was your first car? What was your pet's name? Every
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: survey that I ever filled out as a teenager on
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the internet.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the when's your birthday? I've seen?
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I think if you're just
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: being safe and you're not and you're using good passwords
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: with a capital letter, a symbol, well you know, more
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: than twelve characters, et cetera, you're gonna be just fine.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: All right, I've got another website link to share with you.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I showed this on television this past week and I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: thought it was pretty cool. It's called remove dot BG,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: which stands for remove background. If you've scanned photos in
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: and you have a background you don't like and you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: think that I want to change that, or maybe it's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: like your old school photo that had that canvas background
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that didn't look that good, you can upload your photo
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to remove dot B you could change, you could choose
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: your background, or you could just use one of the
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: predetermined ones that they have and you know, have a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: little fun with your photos. It's fun to do anyways,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It's fun to upload, take a look at it. It's safe,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you know, and then you can even download the photo
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: in like low resolution. If you want to pay for
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a higher resolution you can. But it's one of the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: many tools that are out there that if you want
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to have some fun, it's remove dot BG. And it's
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: super easy to use, right because you.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Can get it. You can downlo as p andgs, you
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: can donald with JPEGs. It's it's very easy to use.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I used it for when my d D player would
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: create minis right for using in our virtual tabletop. They
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: would just send it to me. I would just drop
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: it in room and beg and then it's perfect, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: then I have an actual, an actual mini looking token
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: on our virtual tabletop platform. Is very easy to use.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: All right, we go to take another quick break. We
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: come back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I'm Seanda Weird and now fact to tech Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a parent, you know, sometimes finding the right
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  Speaker 1: programming for your kid to watch or for you to
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  Speaker 1: watch with them can be a challenge. Scholastic has launched
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  Speaker 1: its first branded streaming app featuring Clifford, Goosebumps and other
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  Speaker 1: kinds of shows, Big Red, The Magic school Bus.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Miss Frezzo Man, that was my jam back to.
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  Speaker 1: The Magic school Bus. Did you like that? Well?
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  Speaker 2: I loved that show. It actually is probably one of
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  Speaker 2: the like the most engaging video games ever played was
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  Speaker 2: the Magic school Bus video game.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool and a lot of kids will look
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  Speaker 1: at you know, you want you want your kids to
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  Speaker 1: have good stuff. Miss Rachel is great. You know, there's
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  Speaker 1: Lucas is great, but this is for kids two through
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  Speaker 1: twelve and their families can watch along with them. They
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  Speaker 1: got four hundred hours of premium content and it's free,
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  Speaker 1: which is that makes it That makes it even better.
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  Speaker 1: You can watch it on Roku devices if you've got
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  Speaker 1: a Roku Amazon fire Stick. But you want to look
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  Speaker 1: for Scholastic and you know, we've trusted them with some
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  Speaker 1: of their content for years, and some of this video content.
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  Speaker 2: And I always loved going to the Scholastic book fairs
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  Speaker 2: growing up. Well yeah, and you know, coming home with
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  Speaker 2: a sheet and begging my parents to spend one hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars on books.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you remember there? Didn't they put out highlights?
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  Speaker 1: Was that Scholastic?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was because I if you go to
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  Speaker 1: the doctor's office, so we don't us.
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  Speaker 2: First Galantis, Goophus and Glantis or whatever it's called, always
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  Speaker 2: love that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They also have like Barney and Friends, Garfield, this something
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  Speaker 1: to watch. So again look for that scholastic and you
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  Speaker 1: know whether the grand kids coming over, the kids they
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  Speaker 1: can enjoy that. And you you got something a little
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  Speaker 1: more technical though you want to share.
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  Speaker 2: So we talked a little bit about AI, and I
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  Speaker 2: was struggling to find an article that I had read
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  Speaker 2: recently about AI and Linux, but I did end up
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  Speaker 2: finding it. So Fedora, which is one of the leading
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  Speaker 2: distributions of Linux for the for a kernel level, they
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  Speaker 2: the Fedora's Governing Council, so they have an overarching government
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  Speaker 2: council on how the development of Linux goes forward. They've
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  Speaker 2: approved it an AI Assistant Contributions Policy, which officially allowing
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  Speaker 2: responsible use of AI tools and project development. Supporters are
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  Speaker 2: saying that it's going to keep Fedora relevant in a
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  Speaker 2: rapidly shifting landscape acknowledging that AI is now a core
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  Speaker 2: part of Linux development.
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  Speaker 1: But don't you think like some people are moving away
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  Speaker 1: from some of the other OS's and going to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: something like Linux because it doesn't have the AI. They're
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  Speaker 1: getting away from it.
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  Speaker 2: But that's part of the reason why I was going
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  Speaker 2: away from it to get rid of the blow. This
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  Speaker 2: isn't necessarily meaning that AI is going to be used
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  Speaker 2: in your face, right, It's just meaning they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be using it to help develop Linux on the back end.
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  Speaker 2: That this is my take on it, right, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to use AI to help develop tools to make Linux better.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see you can talk more about it next week
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