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World Series Coast to Coast · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. My name is Scott Morgan, rot the Motor
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  Speaker 1: City mad mouthed. I to have you with us tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what, we're gonna be talking World Series
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  Speaker 1: coast to coast, so we're looking forward to talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: My crew tonight is obviously Candy. I like, welcome back, Candy.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Scott, glad to be here.
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  Speaker 1: And we have Larry Bluestein, who I've known forever.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, thanks Scott, You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for being on tonight, Larry, and last but not leaves,
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  Speaker 1: George Ichorn and and I started the Sports Exchange back
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  Speaker 1: in the eighties and we get to do it again.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on tonight too.
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  Speaker 1: Just everybody know we're going to talk about the World Serias.
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  Speaker 1: The social will be dominated by the World Series. Then
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Miami Hurricanes a little bit at
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  Speaker 1: the end. So let's go ahead to the chat rooms,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Get Betty, I told people you were coming on, Larry,
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  Speaker 1: look at this stuff here, and I mentioned Larry's coming on.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Okay, they're showing up. I should let
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  Speaker 1: everybody know that. Larry and I going on, what's that?
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  Speaker 3: They said George didn't have a hat on, so now
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  Speaker 3: he put it on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, Yeah, there you go. He he
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  Speaker 1: violated a dress culture in like about ten seconds fifteen seconds,
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  Speaker 1: But that's okay. But at any rate, Larry and I
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  Speaker 1: had had the privilege of actually going to Dodger Town
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  Speaker 1: out in Vero Beach. You know, we both covered Florida
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  Speaker 1: State League games and streight training, so that was pretty interesting. Larry,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you give me some of your recollections of
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  Speaker 1: Dodger Town.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, quite a few of them, you know, watching spring
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  Speaker 3: training there. You know when that when they built that
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  Speaker 3: or when they started moving in there, there was no fence.
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  Speaker 3: It was a hill and uh, and so many times
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  Speaker 3: I remember some of the the Reggie Smiths and some
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  Speaker 3: of those during the spring training trying to climb that
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  Speaker 3: hill to prevent a home run. And they had no
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  Speaker 3: dugouts and they have no they just they had like
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  Speaker 3: a dug out with no tops on them. So it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of dangerous. But yeah, it was baseball at
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  Speaker 3: is purest. And uh, they transferred everything from Los Angeles
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  Speaker 3: right to Vero Beach, including the Dodger Dog and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know and everything that goes with it. So it
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of time, a lot of great fun
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  Speaker 3: and and and watching it. And the entire complex of
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  Speaker 3: Dodger Town of Vero that's still around, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: we I visit up there, you know, when I do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of football up in that area, I'll stop
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  Speaker 3: by there and you know, right around and see and
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  Speaker 3: it's really they've really done it well. They hold a
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  Speaker 3: lot of tournaments. Uh you know, they're for youth kids
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  Speaker 3: and also for high school level and uh yeah, in
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  Speaker 3: college even so, yeah, I mean this is you got
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  Speaker 3: to remember back in the day, you know, when Vince
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  Speaker 3: Scully was announcing his spring training games there, and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of history, you know, especially like you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a big town, but you know, they all used
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  Speaker 3: to stay on the beach side and they had you
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  Speaker 3: know a lot of restaurants and a little couple of
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  Speaker 3: watering holes that they you know, they would visit during
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  Speaker 3: spring training. And then you know, right after that, the
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  Speaker 3: Vero Beach Dodgers came in and because at the time
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  Speaker 3: Florida State League was a high Class A league. Now
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  Speaker 3: it's Class D again, but when it was Class A
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  Speaker 3: high Class A league. They used to send their top
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  Speaker 3: prospects there like Jose Offerman and you know, players who
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  Speaker 3: you would see down the line, Sid Bream and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I still remember a lot of those guys that when
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  Speaker 3: they signed them, they would bring them to to you know,
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  Speaker 3: to Rookie League and then with the Dodgers and Vero Beats,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, you got an opportunity, especially back in
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  Speaker 3: the day, Scott as you remember when you would see
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these players in the Florida State League,
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  Speaker 3: you knew that someday soon three four years down the
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  Speaker 3: road that they'd be in the Major league parks. And
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  Speaker 3: then you get to see him in spring training, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, I remember back in the day also, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you look at the Orioles and guys like Cal Ripken
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  Speaker 3: Junior and Eddie Murray who came right up their farm system.
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  Speaker 3: And that was a great thing about seeing Florida State
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  Speaker 3: League baseball. You know, as George and I were talking before,
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  Speaker 3: you get to see the Lakeland Tigers and guys like
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  Speaker 3: Larry Parrish and ro On the Floor and player Barbara Garbay,
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  Speaker 3: guys who just kind of like you know, started out
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  Speaker 3: in the Florida State League. But yeah, it was fun
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  Speaker 3: to look back on Scott, you know. I mean, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, especially because of the diet if you're a
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  Speaker 3: Dodger fan and you know, being twenty six, twenty seven
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  Speaker 3: hundred miles away, you know, I mean, it made all
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  Speaker 3: the sense in the world when they went, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to Arizona. But at the same time, it gave a
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  Speaker 3: lot of California people a chance for at least a
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  Speaker 3: month and a half to come to Florida and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and enjoy the weather and and see some
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  Speaker 3: really good you know, because back in the day you
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  Speaker 3: got to remember all basically all the big time teams
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  Speaker 3: were in Florida. Now they've relocated, you know, to the
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  Speaker 3: Cactus League. And yeah, but you know, the Yankees and
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  Speaker 3: the Orioles were always, you know, fun teams to watch, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers and the Mets. The Mets being you know,
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  Speaker 3: at a few places from Saint Petersburg and in Pompino
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  Speaker 3: Beach all the way down now to Port Saint Lucy
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  Speaker 3: for the last thirty some years.
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  Speaker 1: So uh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The one thing about minor league baseball guys that
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  Speaker 3: you see these kids when they first start and then
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  Speaker 3: follow them through their throughout their entire careers. So yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's great, you know, especially in this World Series
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  Speaker 3: is to you know, I ran a picture today of
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge when he was in Class A baseball, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and the Yankees were extremely high on him then. And
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  Speaker 3: you know that's and that's the thing about this World
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  Speaker 3: Series because you have two MVPs that were clear cut,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're obviously you know, Francisco Lindor put on
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  Speaker 3: a great year and if it wasn't for Otani, he
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  Speaker 3: probably would have won the you know, m VP. But
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  Speaker 3: you got Otani, who's a freak of nature fifty to
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  Speaker 3: fifty club and hasn't pitched in a couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: I think he'll go back to that next year as right. Well,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, that's and then you got the stars on
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  Speaker 3: each side. Garrett Cole, who obviously I remember when he
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  Speaker 3: came out of U C. L A. And Trevor Bauer
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  Speaker 3: of both teammates. Now they don't like each other, but
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  Speaker 3: but they are both teammates at UCLA. And yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he was with the Pirates and I watched
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  Speaker 3: him pitch against the Marlins and you get a chance
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  Speaker 3: to see a lot of these kids that are you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing in this world series that you know that made
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  Speaker 3: their mark, and it's you know, it's really Carlos Rodon.
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  Speaker 3: When he was drafted by the White Sox, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are saying the Marlin should have picked them up.
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  Speaker 3: He came out of n C State, and you know
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  Speaker 3: he's now he's in the rotation. And you know, you
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  Speaker 3: look at Clayton Kershaw and and you know some of
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  Speaker 3: the top players that Dodgers have a great lineup up
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  Speaker 3: and down, and so do the Yankees. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that you know, this, this has all the makings of
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  Speaker 3: a really really good uh I think seven game series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I will say this every time I
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  Speaker 1: went up to Verreau Beach, though, Larry, I never I
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  Speaker 1: always wanted to meet Vin Stowy, but he was never
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  Speaker 1: there the time that I was up there. He only
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  Speaker 1: come in for a week across LA right here, and
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  Speaker 1: I always missed them. That shame. But you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: right about the stadium. I mean, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: the dugouts were in close. I don't think the entire
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  Speaker 1: stadium was enclosed at all either, or you had protection
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  Speaker 1: from the fans against the elements. So you know, but
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  Speaker 1: other than that, if you're ever down in South Florida,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to go to Dodger Town. I mean, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: Florida State League games. I saw my fair share of them.
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  Speaker 1: Three training always used to like that trip is only
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  Speaker 1: like a two hour drive from where we're at. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you take I ninety five, especially nowadays, and back then
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  Speaker 1: the speed limits was like fifty five miles an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can get up there with your foot on
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  Speaker 1: the pedal on the middle and go a little quicker.
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  Speaker 1: And Katie's laughing at me because the way I put
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  Speaker 1: my foot on the pedal, it will definitely accelerate tack
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit. But you're right. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that we both can attest to, especially
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  Speaker 1: in the Florida State leg is I've met a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great friends in there. You know, whether there were
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  Speaker 1: players that turned into coaches. I mean, I could spend
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  Speaker 1: an entire show with you talking about that. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's start. Merrill was down here bairy Foot to this
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  Speaker 1: day is that's still good friend of mine. And I
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  Speaker 1: also mentioned the fact that not only are they good
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  Speaker 1: Kevin rand Is a very good friend of mine.
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  Speaker 3: Is no. Wow, there's a name from the past.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know, and keep in mind I covered
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  Speaker 1: the Fort Lauderdale Yankees a lot, and you were covering
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  Speaker 1: the Miami Marlins when they were with the Orioles and
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  Speaker 1: then the Podres and then Independent. So you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was unbelievable time covering Florida State League. And I learned
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  Speaker 1: a lot of great journalistic lessons covering the Florida State League.
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  Speaker 1: So with that said, Okay, we're gonna bring everybody into this.
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  Speaker 1: You and me can reminists all day. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tarn well, we always did, and no Florida State League
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  Speaker 1: situation would have ever have been the same unless we
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  Speaker 1: had our buddy, Sonny Hert. So, Sonny, if you're up
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  Speaker 1: in heaven and you're watching this broadcast, Larry and I
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  Speaker 1: love you, buddy, and that's all there is to it,
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  Speaker 1: because you're the reason that there is baseball in Miami
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  Speaker 1: in the South Florida area. Larry and I are talking
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  Speaker 1: for your son, So God bless all right with that said,
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  Speaker 1: but you were alluding to it a little bit now, Larry,
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  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get to it. The last time the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers and the Yankees met, and that was in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty one. On October twenty fifth, ninety eighty one, a
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  Speaker 1: large a loads box ticket at Dodgers Stadium costed twenty bucks.
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  Speaker 1: And this was in Gay five. All right, Candy, we'll
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  Speaker 1: bring you into it first. Twenty dollars to watch the
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  Speaker 1: World Series game. Not bad, Candy, nineteen eighty one.
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  Speaker 2: Not bad, although I mean, if you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in back in eighty one, even twenty bucks
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  Speaker 2: would have been a lot. But I can only imagine
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  Speaker 2: what the tickets are going to go for this time.
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  Speaker 3: Huh. I saw the cheapest ticket was fifteen hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: in that standing. They had them up to forty five
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars per game.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to that later in the show.
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  Speaker 3: Don't even get me started with that. Just like the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. They want you to support these teams throughout
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  Speaker 3: the year, and you know, pay high prices for football
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  Speaker 3: and baseball, but when they get into the World Series
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  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, for some reason, they kick it
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  Speaker 3: at the side, which is terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I got updated numbers on that. I'll bring
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  Speaker 1: that up a little bit later in the show. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: twenty dollars. It would have been a nice little World
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  Speaker 1: Series game at twenty bucks or zike corn not a
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  Speaker 1: bad value.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean everything has gone off. It's incredible when
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  Speaker 4: you hear those numbers though, from back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it.
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  Speaker 4: Just shows you how much inflation is captured on the
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  Speaker 4: American mind, in the American way. Yeah, but those numbers
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  Speaker 4: are just phenomenal when you think back to those lower prices.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's been a long time since these
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  Speaker 4: two proud franchises met and it's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 4: of fun.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very happy that it happened this year.
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  Speaker 4: Whether you're a Dodger fan or not, or a Yankee
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  Speaker 4: fan or not, it's good for baseball. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's something else Scott when you talk about those numbers
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  Speaker 4: for tickets and the day, right.
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  Speaker 1: Will Larry before we turn you loose later in the
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  Speaker 1: show about what they are. Now, let's at least talk
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  Speaker 1: about the old twenty dollar bill. You do you can
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  Speaker 1: get those out of the ATM, by the.
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  Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, that's yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The but like I said, you know, I mean when
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  Speaker 3: you take a look Scott, uh, you know, about a
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  Speaker 3: lot of these program a lot of these teams want
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  Speaker 3: your support during the season. And this is something that
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  Speaker 3: I really this really is is something that means a
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  Speaker 3: lot to me because you try to get a generation
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  Speaker 3: to fall in love with a game like baseball, which
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  Speaker 3: you know obviously is is far behind the interest that's football,
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  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden you showed them, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, come out, you know, like I'll use the
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  Speaker 3: Marlins for an example. You know, obviously the franchise is horrible,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, but but the thing is that
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  Speaker 3: they made it that fort to try to attract fans
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  Speaker 3: by getting giving them cheaper seeds pot plus the food.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how you have to do it. But then
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  Speaker 3: you get this group that falls in love with baseball,
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  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden you start charging these
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  Speaker 3: crazy prices for the playoffs and for the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: Same thing with the super Bowl. You know, like everybody
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  Speaker 3: box at the when they go, well, they may take
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, you know, to London or to you know, Germany,
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  Speaker 3: and but you know, when you think about it, who cares.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't go anyway, We couldn't afford to go. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, if they're going to make money. Let them
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  Speaker 3: put it in Tokyo for all I give, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but that's just it bothers them because you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: sell this, this sport of baseball. And like I said,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's really Baseball has declined in attendance and viewership
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  Speaker 3: in many areas because you know, and I'm not talking
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  Speaker 3: about LA or New York, but I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 3: smaller mark at areas. I mean, you know, you look
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  Speaker 3: at Tampa Bay and and areas like that. It's just
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  Speaker 3: tough for them to get any you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: any following. And because of the fact that you make,
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  Speaker 3: you make it what it is, and you put some
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  Speaker 3: of those ticket prices are crazy and parking and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not as bad as it is in football. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: because you take a family afford to a you know,
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  Speaker 3: to a Dolphin game or so, and that's you're talking
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  Speaker 3: six seven hundred dollars, I mean just for you know,
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  Speaker 3: a family of fourd to go with tickets and parking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and food, and and they've priced themselves out
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  Speaker 3: of you know, making you know, new fans. It's almost
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  Speaker 3: you know. And when we were kids, George, you remember
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  Speaker 3: the World Series was on at two o'clock or one o'clock. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we used to sit in our you know, sitting in
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  Speaker 3: the classroom with our transition radios. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: remember being sixty nine, you know, Mets in the Orioles.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they played two games at two forty five
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  Speaker 3: in the afternoon, so you know, you never got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to watch all the games. And then obviously money
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  Speaker 3: gotten away, and then they went to the night games,
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  Speaker 3: and then they went so late at night they were
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  Speaker 3: cutting a lot of the kids out of that too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can remember a grade school, like you said, Larry,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, growing up in Detroit when we
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  Speaker 4: had the Tigers there in sixty eight, we had to
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  Speaker 4: beg the teacher to let us watch some of the game,
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  Speaker 4: and actually actually she did. There was even back then
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  Speaker 4: there was a TV in the in the school. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was That's incredible. Everything's at night now, everything's prime time.
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  Speaker 4: But thanks for bringing that up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember those days as well too. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Delos is some pretty interesting stuff. So I want to
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  Speaker 1: go out there. I mentioned he says, rest in peace, Sonny.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's what's so funny about the fall. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure if the same Sunny, but he has good barbeque.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I can't debate that one. You know
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  Speaker 1: that restaurant is pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, Larry out here barbecue?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no it doesn't. But you know what, his
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  Speaker 1: mind is in the right place. Anyways, all right, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go on to Fernando Valenzuela, who actually pitched
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  Speaker 1: in that series. Unfortunately, they passed away yesterday at the
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  Speaker 1: age of sixty three, within two weeks of his sixty
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  Speaker 1: fourth birthday, which is gonna be November first. I remember
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  Speaker 1: Tom Ossorda raving about him at the nineteen eighty one
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  Speaker 1: Baseball Winter Meetings in Hollywood, Florida, after the Dodgers went
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  Speaker 1: out there and won that. So, you know, Fernando obviously
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  Speaker 1: created Fernando Mania. And you know, it's unfortunate that he
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  Speaker 1: had to die just a couple of days before the
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  Speaker 1: series started. But as I understand, he did have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of health problems for a while. And we can't
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  Speaker 1: predict our departure from this earth at all, Larry, but
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  Speaker 1: the timing certainly could have been a little better. Some
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  Speaker 1: talks about Fernando Valenzuelo, Larry, Well, what he.
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  Speaker 3: Did do is he brought another country into the fold,
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  Speaker 3: me bringing Mexican fans. And I thought that was really
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  Speaker 3: really good for baseball at the time. You know, just
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  Speaker 3: like Otani, you know, and some of the other Japanese
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  Speaker 3: and you know players that when you bring other countries into,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: you know, into the mix, you get new fans. And
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: that's what Fernando did. I mean, he was a novelty,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: big guy always, you know, had that crazy delivery where
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: his eyes were straight into the sky. Yeah. He and
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: he was a character. And then the whole thing is
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: is that's what you need in baseball. And we have
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: some you know, we have a lot of characters in
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: today's game, but Fernando is one of those guys.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: He may not have been a you know, a Hall
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of Fame pitcher, but he was somebody who was a
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: generational talent, uh during an era as you said, back
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: in the early eighties, you know, into the middle eighties,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: when the game really needed. You know, now it's got
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: so much influence from outside the area, you know, from
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: you know, from Dominican Republic and Venezuela and and you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: but now you're looking for just anybody who's going to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: come into the league and and you know, give it
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: a new fan base. And I think that's what Fernando did.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: And uh, great teammate and as you said, unfortunately a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, I was watching him. Uh he
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: was at a like a little league field and talking
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: to the kids, and he looked really frail. I mean
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: you remember really yeah when he was bigger and she's
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: weighed like two fifty, you know, and yeah, but uh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: you know what it's it's a shame. You know, you
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: get you get baseball players like that, and you get
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: some of these athletes and uh, you know, they become
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: iconic and uh and like I said, you know, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: mean you you know, during the off season, especially in
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: in La, it was a perfect landing spot for him
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: because you know, the heavily population, a heavy population of Mexicans,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: plus you know, it's a couple hours away and a
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: lot of fans got a chance to come up and
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: see him, and uh, yeah, it was a perfect it
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: was a perfect storm for them. So yeah, rest in peace,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: and uh, certainly we'll always remember him every time you
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: see a picture or watch a you know, a video
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: on George. You know, I mean you get people like
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: that who are iconic and like I said, may not
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: have been a Hall of Famer, but certainly somebody who
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: elevated the game.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know what, Larry, before we let George
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Tuman on this, I read that Fernando Valenzuela, albeit like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Mickey Lowell, has never gotten Hall of Fame. But the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Dodgers don't normally retire numbers unless you're in the Hall
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: of Fame. But they made an exception with Valenzuela. That
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: shows you the impact that he had with that organization.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: One can only wonder well Overseee Lowlan's number twenty nine
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: retired or we won't talk about that tonight, but at
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: least Valezuela was a broadcaster firm for quite a few
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: years and also got his number retired, just like Lou
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Whitaker did in Detroit. George, I'll make the Detroit repend
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you stay on point, okay, because it's just one of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: those types of things. And here's the other thing. We
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: talk about characters of the game. How about Mark fi
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: another white time ago as well, talking to the baseball
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and all that. So every time I think of Bernano Venezuela,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I go out there and think of Marks as well.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: All right, George, go ahead, yeah, I mean, what a
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: great character, what a great pitcher. I mean, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: when I was doing some research today on him, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: did not know he was around for seventeen seasons.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: That's a long long time.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: And you nailed it when you talked about his influence
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: on baseball. You know, the Mexican country adopted him. He's
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: a full carol there. He was called up as a
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: relief pitcher late in nineteen eighty. But then look at
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: these stats what he did. He responded with a victory
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: in his first start, two to nothing over the Astros,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: and he went on to start eight and zero, including
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: five shutouts and a zero point five zero er. I mean,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: those numbers are just off the charts. He had a tremendous,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: tremendous influence on baseball and it is sad to see
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: him go. And I don't wish that upon anybody, of course,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: you know, especially he's you know, only in his sixties,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and but he contributed a lot. He did, and like
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you guys said, he stayed focused. He was in the community,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: was helping promote baseball in Mexico and other Hispanic countries.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: And also as a broadcaster with the Spanish speaking obviously
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: that's a big thing in Los Angeles, is the is
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: the Spanish speaking play by play and colors. So yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: it's a big loss and it is unfortunate it is
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that it's happening right before the eve of the World Series.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: We'll turn over to Candy.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So wow. He let's talk about him. He won the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: He won the New York National League Cy Young Award
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and Rookie of the Year in nineteen eighty one. He
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: he was one of twelve kids from humble beginnings in Mexico,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and his feats in the mound made him hugely popular.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: He became he was dubbed one of the two icons
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: of the Dodgers and of the game. He's very well loved.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: He was an All Star selection every year from eighty
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: one to eighty six, when he recorded ninety seven victories,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: eighty four complete games, twelve hundred and fifty eight strikeouts
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a two point nine to seven era. He earned two
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Silver Slugger Awards and a Gold Glove. He actually is
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: not in the Hall of Fame, but he is not
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in as a player, but there is memorabilia from his
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: No Hitter that is actually in the Hall of Fame.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So he had a no hitter back in Oh, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: want to say, let me quick pull that up. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: just had it. In June twenty ninth of nineteen ninety,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a six to ozero victory over the Saint Louis Cardinals
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium was one of his emotional career highlights.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: He struck out seven and walked three. He is nicknamed
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: El Toro by the fans. He had an unorthodox, immemorable
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: pitching motion that it included looking skyward at the apex.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Of his wind up.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: His repertoire included a screwball, making him one of the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: few pitchers of his era who threw that pitch regularly.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And he was he wasn't known as a hard thrower,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: but he threw different pitches which made him different. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, what a career like to know that you
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: grew up in Mexico and you were one of twelve
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: kids like I can't imagine. He remains the only pitcher
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: in MLB to win the Cy Young and Rookie of
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the Year awards in the same season. The left hander
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: was a National League starting pitcher in the All Star
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Game in nineteen eighty one was the same year the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Dodgers won the World Series. He is the all time
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Major League leader and wins one hundred and seventy three
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and strikeouts to two thousand and seventy four by a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Mexican born player. During his career, he made the cover
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrated and visited the White House now for sure,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and of course and he became a broadcaster too, So
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: he's done quite a lot well.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, when we talk about players that aren't
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame where their memorabilia is in there,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I get that he can even get he rode memorabilion,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: there's not going to get him in there. And a
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: guy who I've always advocated that should be in the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: whole of it, and isn't it Dymatically the doubt will
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: get me started on that, because I really believe that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Donnie should be there. But Fernando Vealezuela, to me, was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: one of those characters that you could see out of
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: a comic book with everything that he did and eighty
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: four complete games, Larry, think about eighty four, how many
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you're not even to see that in major League Baseball
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: for two or three seasons anymore. The way this game
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: has changed.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, you don't you know the Bob Gibson's
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: and him and all those guys who are workhorses back
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: in the day, the Denny McLean's and yeah, when they
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: used to have tons and tons of complete games. You
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: don't see it anymore because it's just it's become specialized.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a six inning world for starters,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: then you seventh and eight for the middle, and then
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: you go to your closers. So and that's how baseball's
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: evolved right now. In baseball pretty much now is all
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: about computers and algorithm and it's not so much you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, your coach through computers. And that's why you
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: get a lot of these managers who are old time managers,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you know, with the exception like Dusty Baker. So that doesn't,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: you know, always harkens themselves back to when it used
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: to be just you know, let's show up to the park.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I mean there was no video you can watch there.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: You know it was you know, you remember Sparky Anderson
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: and all, you know, those guys who would have no
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: time for this. I mean, you know they're were baseball purists.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: They go in there and make their lineup, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: based on maybe scouting the night before. And you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you don't even see the pitchers used to sit in
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the stands before the next their next start the next
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: day and chart pictures. You don't have that anymore. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that's sad because it's it's evolved, and yeah, this is
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a shame for the younger people who
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: are listening tonight. I mean, you know, I mean not
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: to say that this generation or your generation, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: is hasn't been fun and has them you know, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: that's all. You know, it's just like you know, my
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: dad used to tell me, you know, back in the
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: you know, twenties and the thirties and the forties, how
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: baseball evolved. And you know, and you see clips and
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: you know, George, you see you know, I was looking
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: at a picture today of Babe Ruth back in twenty
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: seven and he was up the bat and there were
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: these photographers, you know, with their flashballs. It must have
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: been like ten feet away.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see that anymore. And that's the thing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: You know, Baseball's you know, I mean everything, you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: it's not just baseball. It's every sport and every walk
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: of life that you know that you know things have changed,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: but you know, just as somebody who grew up and
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: like I said, I became a Met fan because back
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: in April of nineteen sixty two, we were in New
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: York visiting some relatives and my dad and my uncle
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: were supposed to go to the first game, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the Met's ever played in the Polo Grounds, and my
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: dad got sick and I had an opportunity. I think
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I was like six years old and I had an
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: opportunity to go. I really didn't know a lot about
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: baseball at the time, but just going to that game,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: and and I became a Met fan on April eleventh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty two, on that that very day. And you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: followed suit two years later and went to the opener
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: at Chase Stadium and was fortunate enough to go to
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the opener at City Field. So you know, a lot
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: of people, you know, like you guys, you know back
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: in the day, you look at Briggs State at Briggs
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Field and all these you know, these parks that you
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: know set the standards in those days, and that's why
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: you hate, you know, when people kind of knocked Wrigley
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Field or you know, or talk bad about Fenway, but
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: those are original pro stadiums where you know, when we
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: grew up, those were iconic stadiums. And yeah, that that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: kind of taken a little bit away from from the game.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: But original question was about uh complete games, and you know, yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: you're not you're you're not seeing it, you know, I mean,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: look at what how many times over the last couple
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: of years have they taken a picture out with a
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: no hitter? Yeah, only because they're on pitch counts. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: you know, and that's the thing too, if you remember
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: back a few years ago when the uh, when the
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Washington uh uh Nationals uh sidelined Steven Strasburg because you know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and and that was it. And I kept saying, you
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: know what, you know, toughen it out because you'll never
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: you may never get back to this, you know, to
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a World Series. And and he never did. And and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I just think baseball, well, just all sports, but baseball
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: we're talking to night has become so specialized. It's it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: almost it's almost cookie cutter. It's almost you know, like
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: you know, like Stepford Homes. It's everything's the same and uh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, but yeah, I'm you know, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: miss the old days of baseball, George, you know, I mean,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: those were the great days, you know. I mean, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: hate a lot of people didn't get a chance. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: if you ever get an opportunity to watch some of
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the older films and some of the older clips, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, and you appreciate some of these players back
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: in the day, like a Melot to know that he
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: was five to nine, one hundred and sixty pounds and
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: he hit five hundred and eleven home runs, you know
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: what I mean, that just doesn't happen, you know, these days,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: and you had some you know, like you talk about,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, Danny McClain, he's not gonna come close to
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: winning thirty games. I mean, they don't just have that anymore.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: And you know, I mean it's unless you have a
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: really like the Yankees and the Dodgers are at the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: place that they're at is because they've had a great
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: balance from the pitching standpoint of being able to have
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: their starters go six, have their relievers you know, go
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: seven and eight and and have like a Clay Holmes
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: or you know, somebody come in there and and mop
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: things up and win games, and the same thing, you
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: know without the day, you know, with the designated hitter too,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean in both leagues it's it has
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: given has taken strategy out the game. So you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I mean if you have you know, for every Kenny
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Holtzman you know, and somebody like a Tony Kloninger who
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: could hit, Mirick Wise who could hit, you have all
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: these guys who are like one ten hitters and struck
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: out every other time. So yeah, you know that's the
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: thing too. When the younger people listening, I mean baseball
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: back then, you could you could just picture how you
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: could strategize games, and you know, you'd have to make decisions.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Nowadays they're just kind of made for you.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the only thing else, the only thing I'll
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: say to this hang on, Katie, is this Abner double
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Day would turn over in his grave. Yeah, for two reasons.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: One he saw the bullpen games where you're putting all
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: these relievers out. And number two, the other thing that
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you just talked about would be the you know, the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: strategy of being messed around here by what we talk about,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and that's a combined no hitter. So Abner Doubleday. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: know you're not listening to this, okay, but the reality
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: is is Abner would not want to see a combine
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: no hitter, and he wouldn't want to go out and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: see seven eight bullpen guys in to complete a nine
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: inning game. All right, Katie, go ahead.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the other things you're not going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: see again from Venezuela. If you guys might not know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: he was a better than average hitter. He actually hit
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: ten career home runs. You're not going to see another
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: pitcher hit ten career home runs because they're not batting
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: at all anymore.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, he, like you said before, Candy, he won
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: two Silver Slug Awards, and for a pitcher, I mean
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I remember Rick Wise back in the day, he was
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: a really good hitting pitcher. Kenny Holtzman was a really
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: good hitting pitcher. I mean you had him obviously back
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: in the day. I mean he when before the d
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: H and that was like in the seventies and the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: early seventies, late sixties, you know where where the where
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: everybody National League didn't you know, go to the to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the d H like over to what the last ten
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: to fifteen years and then they kind of, but before then,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I still remember Richie Shine Bloom as a DH you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: got up and yeah, it's you know, it's it's great
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: to remnists, especially because this year's game represents two franchises,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: you know, Dodgers and Brooklyn Dodgers and the LA Dodgers
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: and the Yankees obviously that are storied franchises that have
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: had more than their share of great managers and great
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: players throughout the years and are often one two in attendance.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: And that's you know, I'm sure that the Major League
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Baseball wasn't crying when you know, when these two teams
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: had an opportunity to meet. It's really really good as
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: far as markets for TV markets and and press. Uh so, yeah,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: it's I'm you know, as much of a National League
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: fan as I am not a big Yankee fan, and
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys aren't either, but being Detroit guys,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: as you remember, they used to be in the same division,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: so that's right. Yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna be
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: a great series, guys, I really do. And uh, you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: as you go throughout the entire lineups of both teams,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: you got comparable people, you know, like you look like
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: at first base. And you have Freddie Freeman who's kind
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: of been hobbled, but so is Anthony Rizzo, so you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: kind of a wash there you have. Yeah, it's it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: been interesting. But to have two stars like like an
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Otani and having an Aaron Judge, who are two really
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: generational players, this.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Is going to be.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: And then you have Soto who's a beast of nature too,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: and then obviously Mookie bats who probably is as versatile
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: of baseball players we've had in a long long time.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: All right, well, you know, I'll add two things. Candy
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: is gonna go to a station break and a minute
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: talk about the book, and then some But think about it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Mike Hampton left the Atlanta Braves to play for the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies only because he wanted to hit it course field.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Think about that, you know, and he hit a bunch
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: of home runs. Of course, as the e r he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: went to the sky. When you go to Coursefield, I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: think they've made it a little bit picture friendly because
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of those humidifiers and humidors or whatever you call those things,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know what they are. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: have a no hitter for a while at Coursefield, but yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: there's no question about it that you know I missed
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: when a pitcher would go ahead hit it means you
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: can help your own cause, and we don't see that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: no more. All right, Well that said, let's go over
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to a station break with Candy, like, go ahead.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna quick say one things I want to type
• 36:00
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• 36:03
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• 36:08
  Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen World series so far, only forty of
• 36:12
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• 36:16
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  Speaker 1: All right, thanks Katie, all right, let's talk about Game
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: one starter. We're all to familiar with women Detroit and Larry.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I just want to mention something. You know, I really
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: have an admiration for the Yankees because I did work
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: they cover the team for a few years. So i'lt
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: being on from a Tigers who are a good rivalry
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: with the Yankees. You know what, when you cover the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yankees and you see the players that went through that system.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I developed an admiration for them as well as Sin
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Sanity Red when they were they had a farm team
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: up in Tampa's tartment. So with that said, let's talk
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: about Game one. Okay, Former Tiger Jack Clarity then named
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the starter for Game one of the World Series on
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Friday night. So what are your thoughts, George about Jack Clarity?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I liked him.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was a good pitcher here in Detroit
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: for the part of the year that he was here. Obviously,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the Tigers wanted to get some capital in return and
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: and traded him away. But he's done a good job
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: for the Dodgers. He has had a very good year
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: with both teams Detroit and LA and I like what
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: he brings. I like the he's more of a gutsy
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: kind of starting pitcher that you know, really quite frankly,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: really helped them out tremendously, to be honest with you,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: like a saving grace because you know, with all the
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: injuries the Dodgers had in that pitching staff one after
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: the other. So I'm not totally surprised. I mean, to
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: be honest with you, you know, I don't know where
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: he's gonna end up after this season. But the most
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: important thing is he helped them win that penant and
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: he deservedly as being the starting pitcher in Game one.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So I like him.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: He's a good guy, and he's got some good qualities,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: and he's a good pitcher that you know, and and
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: basically I'm happy for him as well. He's been in
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: the league quite a number of years, but he has
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: reached the World Series and that and that's got to
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: be really super exciting.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That will turn over to Larry.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt I agree with him, especially with the
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: injuries earlier in the year to Yamamoto and also Walker Bruhler,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: who you know, as you know, has come back. Both
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: of them have come back. But you know, getting somebody
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: like Jack Clarity, you know, with experience and somebody you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: he's a bulldog and you know, give me the ball,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: and you know, he was definitely a saving grace Grace
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: and you know, obviously he was right up, you know,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and in a couple of postseason games by the Padres
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and the Mets. But yeah, I you know, it's what
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: it's an honor to get the ball in Game one,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: and obviously the biggest biggest game of his career.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, o Candy.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Not only is it the biggest honorary, but it also
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: sets him up so that he could pitch more than
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: one one time start for more than one game, because
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that's what you do, is you put your you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: your heavy, your heavy pitchers in early, because then you
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: can if you need them, you can put him in
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: a second or possibly even a third because let's face it,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: after these these seven games, if it goes seven days,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: seven games, they're done, like this is it. This is
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: this is the pinnacle, this is what you have played
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: your whole career probably for. It's awesome, it's an honor.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: He's going up against, you know, a great UH pitcher
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: as well. I think this will be very interesting because
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I think and this is the first time in a
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: World Series you have two guys that have hit more
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: than fifty home runs in the season. And this is
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the sixth time where in the World Series where you
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: have you have the guys that have hit the most
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: in from each league in the World Series. So I
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of bats in this series, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be interesting to see if the bats
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: win out more than the pitching does. I think you've
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of World Series where the pitching wins
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: out more, but I think this one we might see
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: a lot more bats and a lot more runs.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: All right, well, the only I'll think about Jack flirty.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Then I'm going to get to the question about the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: series and we'll talk about ticket prices, and then Larry
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and I we can talk about Miami Florida state. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: here's what you've got here. You have a trade that
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: will ultimately be a win win situation for both teams.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: The Tigers signed Clary as a free agent one year deal, right,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: It's all they signed him for, and they got some
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: good quality work out of him up until they decided
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to trade hum and then they ended up getting prospects.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: One of the prospects that was in return with trade
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: sweety Detroit does make it to the postseason. So as
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: any good general manager say, well, you'll have a trade
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that works in your immedia passing interest short term and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: long term. And you know, I won't say that, you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: John Smolts, Okay, for Doyle Alexander to compare to it
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit, But again, Doyle got you into the postseason, right,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: and he did what he had to do for two
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: or three years, and John folthall he did was make
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: it to the Baseball Hall of Fame in naturally won
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a World Series or so out in Atlanta. So it's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a win win situation. I'm happy Jack got the honor,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and I think from what I heard, the reason why
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: he had a lackluster showing against the metses. I think
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: he was sick before the game anyways, but he didn't
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: want to mention it and decided to top it out. Unfortunately,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the Mets roughed him up pretty good, so but nevertheless,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers came away with it. So I'm happy for
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Jack that he is going to pitch Game one. And
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: you're right, Larry, Okay, it's an honor for anybody to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: pitch in Game one. Jack deserves it, and the Dodgers
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: needed an arm and this guy simply delivered. All right,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and talk about some of the things
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that we talked about throughout the show that we'll bring
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: him to the forefront. What are the most intriguing aspects
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of the World Series, and we'll talk about predictions. You
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: know what, Candy, I'm going to start off with you.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: You were talking about it a little bit earlier, So
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: give me some of the more intriguing aspects of it
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and give you your prediction there.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: One of the things that I thought was interesting is
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: with Otani, Betts, Freeman, Judge, and Stanton, there are five
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: players who have won MVP in their careers who will
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: take the field in the Fall Classic. If all five appear,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: that would be the most former MVPs to play in
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a World Series. And let's face it, Clayton Kershaw would
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: have made that six, but obviously he's not going to
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: be playing so unfortunately. But that's pretty interesting. I also
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: found some other interesting facts that said there have been
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: a hundred Wait, let me go back, let me find
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: what I was just at, because I just moved off
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: from that one. One of the other interesting facts that
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I thought was that a trio of elite hitters, like
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I was saying before, we can Soto ranked third among
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: MLB qualifying players, behind Judge and Otani. So here we
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: have the sluggers of the you know in this game,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you don't see that necessarily all the time. With the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: three of them, the Yankees have played in at least
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: thirty five percent of all World Series believe it or not.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. And the longest World Series
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: game in history took place Game three on October twenty six,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, between the Red Sox and the Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers ended up winning three to two. The game
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: took seven hours and twenty minutes. It was a marathon.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Oh all right, Candy, I'll put you on the spot.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Give me your prediction. Who's going to win the World Series?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna win it? I'm going to say, I'm gonna
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: say Yankees and seven. But that that's a tough one.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't predictions, Candy, or really never considered easy.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: But I got news for it. You've certainly given a
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: lot of facts as to why the Yankees could walk
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: out with the twenty eighth World championship, for which Joe
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Girardi was a manager of All right, George, what about you?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: The most intriguing the world serio? And a prediction?
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Well, uh, you know again, these teams are meeting for
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: the twelfth time. That's incredible, and but it's been a
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: long long time since they met. And that's I think
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: what God, everybody in baseball and in America excited. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: think when you look at the roster that how deep
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: some of these rosters are, especially for the Dodgers. I mean,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: it's hard not to go with them.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: As far as pitching goes, I think, you know, might
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: maybe a small edge possibly to the Yankees, but I
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: really do think that this is going to be something
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: like Candy.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Described, which is a hit fest.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: We saw large scores in the San Diego series, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: we saw large scores in the Mets series. I mean,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: and of course the Yankees against Cleveland and earlier against
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: what was at Kansas City. But you know, it always
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: comes down to pitching. But pitching isn't necessarily strong suit
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: for either one of these teams. The power is. And
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: for that reason, I am going to say the Yankees
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: will win this game in seven, but.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: It's going to go all the way.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: It's going to be an exciting series. Fox Sports is
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: lucky to have this as their defining moment, of course,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: in this year's sports calendar.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: All right, well, Noell, I'll turn it two out my
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: buddy Larry.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the way I look at it is you look
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: down the lineup at every position, you know, and I
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: think it's kind of even you know, I mean advantage
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Yankees obviously center field and right field, you know, with
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: somebody like Soto and Judge. But then you go to
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: third base, where obviously the Dodgers have an advantage. I mean,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: obviously Glieber Torres has played well at second. The catching,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I think between uh, with will and in Wells, I
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: think it's kind of like an even deal. I think
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: they're starting pitching is probably comparable to each other. I mean,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: obviously this has been a good year for Carlos Rodon,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: so they's had an opportunity, you know, coming off somebody,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: you know, like a Garrett Coles. But I think the
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: difference is going to be made is the bullpen, and
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I think the Dodgers have a slight edge, you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: you know, as far as set up and uh, you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I mean the way they pitch consistently, not you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: just in a game or two, and obviously if you
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: look back at the you know, the series and in
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, you know, from as far as uh, the
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: kid Luke Weaver had a you know, I mean, this
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: is a guy who had a kind of a tough
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: time as a starter before and he's become a reliever
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: and a really good one. But I'm gonna go the
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Dodgers in seven only because of the fact that I
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: think that they're relief pitching will probably be a little
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: bit more consistent than the Yankees. From an offensive standpoint,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the Yankees have an advantage because they've got a lot
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: of power. I mean, you know, between Soto and obviously
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Judge and Stanton, I mean, you've got well over one
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: hundred home runs just from three people, So they've got
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: the power advantage. I think defensively, I think it's kind
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: of a toss up both teams. Like I said before,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: you look at Rizzo and he's playing with broken fingers,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: and you look at Freddie Freeman and he's got a
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: bad ankle. So you know, I mean, these are guys
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: whoever's gonna gut it out more. But yeah, I see
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers winning it in seven.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know what, I got some interesting information,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And since Larry and I have connections to the Marlins,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: at least the ones in the Florida State League, and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I do cover them. Now, think about this for a second,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and Carlos Stanton's having a pretty good postseason, really hungry
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: for a ring Jazz Chisholm ended up getting out of
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: baseball purgatory, Okay, because obviously he an opportunity to play
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: in New York and Chislm was a pretty good contributor
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: for the Yankees, right. John Birdie is one of the
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: fastest guys on the team for the Marlin's and he's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: being utilized up there. And not only that, you have
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys on that roster looking for their
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: first championship ring. He got Aaron Judge, and the list
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: goes on and on. But here's the thing. You know what,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: this series reminds me of Larry This is going to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: really throw you for a loop here. This is gonna
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: remind me of nineteen seventy nine the NCAA Basketball Championship
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: when you have Magic Johnson against Larry bird Indiana State
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: versus Magic Johnson. Why am I saying that? Easy? Okay? Show?
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Hey Otani versus Aaron Judge. Yeah, George touched on it
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: for a moment. Fox will clean up with the numbers
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: with the number one and number two medium markets in
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the country. Well that said Yankees in seven, a lot
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of guys getting their first championship rings. And I always
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: like to see guys get their first championship rings. Already,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: go to the chat room, Robert Ordelli, Yankee is gonna
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: spank the LA and then the Dodgers and six BGP.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad to have you both on the broadcast tonight.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: All right, last baseball topic of the night is the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: one that Larry will probably go off on. I have
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: no problem, and then we talk about the Canes and
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the Seminoles. The cheapest seat for the World Series at
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the Yankee Stadium in New York will be sixteen hundred
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars plus. I told you these tickets
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: changed by the day, by the hour, because you never
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: know what sorts are getting them from. When I repeat
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: sixteen seventy five, the cheapest ticket at Dodger Stadium is
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: one thousand and thirty plus. So you can eat a
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: few more Dodger dogs over Dodger Stadium than you would
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: be eating Cody Islands in New York. So all right, Larry,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you got the first word on this. What do you
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: think about those ticket prices?
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I said it before. You know it's it's absurd, and
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: you know, the very fans that you want to support
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: you during the regular season and during spring training are
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: kind of out of the mix now, and that's not
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think that's a fair thing. Baseball
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: has gone the way of all the corporate sponsors, and
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: just like just like the Super Bowl, but most of
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: the seats that are purchased in the super Bowl go
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: to corporate sponsors. You know, obviously they pay billions for
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: all these different rights. But that's why I kind of
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: like get soured on sports a lot, because as I
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: said before earlier in the podcast, I think the important
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: thing is to grab fans for the next generation, to
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: keep the you know, to keep the flame alive, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: for them to you know, if you live in New
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: York or you live in anywhere, you know, and then
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're going there on special nights
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: during Tuesday and Wednesday, when like the you know, like
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I don't want to throw
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: anybody under the bus because now the Minnesotas and Kansas
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: cities are pretty good, but you know, getting like the
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Oakland A's, you know, on a Tuesday and Wednesday and
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: all these kids are going out and supporting and then
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden they become real fans and then
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: you know, then it comes to the playoffs in the
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: World Series and there's no way they'll ever be able
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: to get tickets. And that's uh, yeah, that's that's the
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: way I feel about it. I just think they've taken
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: it out of the fans. Uh, you know, their their
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: hands because you know, and I'm not you know, I mean,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I know everybody's going to make a dollar, but you know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: then don't bitch and moan when time comes and you
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: have twenty three hundred people on a Saturday or Tuesday afternoon,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you know for a game, it's just you know, I mean,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: you've created your own monster, and you know you can't
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: complain about it. And you know, like when they have
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: to getaway days during the summer, it's like ninety seven
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: degrees and you know, you're playing, like I said, you're
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: playing California Angels, playing the Marlins Miami. Don't bitch a
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: moment when you get ninety five hundred people. It's just
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: you've created this monster, and you know, And that's the
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: way it is. So that's my word on it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's not kidder. So you take the Florida Panthers
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: did a little bit of price gouging themselves, especially with
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: the parking and all what they did. Every team's gonna
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: do it what they know they can. There's a big demand,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and out of that point, when you get.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: They know you'll pay it. That's the whole thing.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: That's it, you know, That's why all the people with
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: these gas prices, you know, they're not busting their ass
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: to get it back to two twenty because they know
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: you'll pay three dollars and twenty five cents, you know.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: And that's why I'm saying, because you have to. And
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: it's unfortunate that we're in that, in that type of life,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: and I don't foresee it, you know, improving that much.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: And it's only going to get worse for the next generation.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: So just got to move on. That's all.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: No question about a well said by the way, I
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: love you, because I do believe the same thing. If
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I were going to go to a World Series or
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: any playoff game, the only way I'm going is I'm
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: either going to cover it or I'm going to stay home.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I really don't care. I have other things I want
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: to do. As we get it deeper into this thing,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's it worth to spend a couple
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: of grand to go when it's all said and done,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: or for me, is it worth taking that couple of
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: grand and putting it toward a deposit to travel to Europe?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And at this point in my life, I'm going to Europe,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's it. I haven't been across a
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: big pond anyway. But still, you know, but there are
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: other fans to say I've been to a World Series.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: In fact, you know what, the only World Series game
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I ever went to, Larry, was back in nineteen sixty
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: eight when my dad took me to the car and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Earl Wilson was on the mound.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: For the time, it is a name from the past.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is nineteen sixty My dad took me there.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Talk about the father's son connection. My
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: dad took me there and Earl Wilson was on the hill.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: So to this day I never forget. So now, if
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: they want to go there for that reason, say they
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: went to a lot, more power to them.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: All.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: It is money, you know, you can't take it with
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: you when you're not around no more so, all right, George.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean you know it's called the entertainment business,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: and baseball is a big business. I checked out one
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: of the sites today and it's called vivid Seats. The
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: lowest price ticket they had available was one twenty eight dollars, okay,
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: and the highest price they had was ridiculously.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Forty two thousand.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. So yeah, And I agree with all
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: the things that have been said Larry, you know, and
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: the fans are the ones that are the true fans
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: are the ones that get screwed. Unfortunately, in a situation
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: like this, the market bears the pricing and if people
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: in corporations want to pay those prices, I don't see
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: anything going down in the future. I mean, I would
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: just be probably unexpected, totally. I mean, so yeah, the
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: fans that have to sit home or go to their
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: favored watering hole or restaurant to watch it, or some
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: sort of block party or whatever, they'll still have fun,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: but unfortunately they will not be able to afford to
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: get into Dodgers Stadium or Yankee Stadium. And that's sad,
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: that really is. And the high ticket gouging just continues
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: to go on. I'm not a fan of that either.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's crazy and I feel for those true
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: fans out there.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, back to the chat room, Okay, B,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: G ANDP says the Dodgers and six the Dodgers of
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the hard on our team right now, no question about
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are playing good ball and film. Hell yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: it should be a great chair. He's no questioning that
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: at all. Thanks a lot of guys for your contributions
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: as well, And of course Robert Ordell mentioned the Yankees
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: gonna spank La. So with that said, Candy, let's talk
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: about ticket prices.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Let's face it, it's become a who's who can afford
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: to go to these So it's the who's who is
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: gonna be in the stands. It's gonna be oh, this
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: movie star or this person, and you're gonna see, oh
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: he's there, and she's there, and you know you're gonna
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: have your Lebron Lebron James I'm sure will show up.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: And all the different stars that are making lots of
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: money because they're the ones that can afford those. Ticket
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: prices for these events especially have gone through the way
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: so through you're not gonna see a typical fan or
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: a typical family, families can't afford that anymore. There's no way.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Prices have gotten way out of whack. And one, I
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: just I was doing research looking at this earlier today,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if do you guys know how
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: much show hey Otani's ball went for his fiftieth home run.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: We're at auction three million dollars or something four.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Point three nine to two million dollars. It was the
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: highest spot price for any ball of any sport in history.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: So just like that has gone astronomical, so have these
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: ticket prices. These ticket prices are not for the average
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: fan for us to We're gonna sit there and watch
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: it on TV.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wonder if his former interpreter bought it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, well that's a good one, Larry. Well.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: You know what, though, he should get part of the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: proceeds of Skip Shoemacker because number one, Skip Shoemacker wasn't
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: going to intentionally walk him anyways. It's attack with it.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go out there and pitch to him. Anyways.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I think, what did he have like ten rby ice
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that days.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: In any baseball history of one single player?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah right. Skip Schumacher, the former Marlin's manager, had a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: hand in at He's and I'm not going to be
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: here next year. I'm going to watch history, right, but
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: and he let him get it over with great insight
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: all the way around. For you, I know that they're
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: pretty high, but you know what, if fans are willing
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: to pay it, so be it all right, Larry, And.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: On one last prediction. My prediction is is this will
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: be one of the highest watched world series that has
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: ever been partly because of the foreign aspect as well,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: not just the coast to coast and the two big
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: highest markets, but I think because of show Hay as well.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Let's not kid yourself, you know, ger Pant's gonna watch it.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: In fact, when Candy and I were out in the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Cactus League covering the Angels, I don't remember who they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: were playing, but it was interesting. I think it was
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: at the Oakland Age, I believe. I don't remember, but
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: it was one of those teams on Mates. I believe
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: it was Oakland. You know what, Tim Mead, I'm sure Larry,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you know who he is, right, one of my good friends.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: We were Candy and I had a chance to cover.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: She was taking pictures and I was out there you know,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: getting interviews, and it was just unbelievable when you think
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: about the Japanese media that went out there and covered them.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: But Tim took care of me. Anyways, you know what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: it is, what it is, and credentially in that that So, yeah,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you're right, Candy, the Japanese contingent is just going to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: be unbelievable in addition to what we're already looking at
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: now with the national media. But at least Dodger Stadium
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: can hold that extra media. Anyways, I believe it seams
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: like fifty eight thousand to the beginning. See, you know
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers p R people in Major League Baseball media,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: well a comedy as much of the demand that they
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: can all right, well, you know what on Saturday were
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: changed the subject to a little bit of college football.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Larry and I Candy will be over at hard Rock Stadium,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Miami Hurricane six wins, one loss, and the Florida State
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Seminoles won at six.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Now Mimmy hasn't lost. There's seven and oh, don't give
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: a don't give him a loss.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's right, well then seven and oh excuse me,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: but I'm glad you went out there and corrected me,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: seven and o versus one in six seminoles, Larry, what
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: do you think about this one? We all thought it
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: was gonna be a much better game than it would
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: turn out to be, And now I have a feeling
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: it could be one sided and Mike Marvel will be
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: looking at the sky wondering what the heck happened this year? So, yeah,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: seven and oh and one in six top.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Larry, Well, I'm not one of them that thinks it's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: going to be a runaway. It's a it's a heated rivalry,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: is a you're gonna have over three hundred recruits on hand.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: If you look back, there's a couple of games that
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Florida State has played this year that would signal that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: they have the ability to keep the game close. Miami
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: led up six hundred and five yards of offense against California,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Florida State beat them fourteen to nine, and they're for
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: their only wins. So you take a look at that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: game alone. And then last week against Duke, Florida State
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: held Duke the one hundred and sixty yards of total offense.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: So they're gonna come and play I mean, you know,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of those Red River shootouts
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: like Texas and Oklahoma. Florida Florida State nineteen eighty eight.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Florida State came in number one in the nation, returned
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: seventeen of twenty two starters. They were favored by six
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: points at the Orange Bowl and the Hurricanes shut them
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: out thirty one nothing, so anything could happen in this game.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: I'm never gonna say that, you know, you could sweep
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: a team like Florida State under the rug. Sure on
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: the surface, Scott, I mean, there are sixteen to nineteen
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: point underdog, and you know the average person that say, yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: this isn't gonna be much of a game. But Miami's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: been making a lot of mistakes. Their defense has been horrible,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: just horrible over the last three games. I mean, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: they could have easily lost in California they were down
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: by twenty five. They could have easily lost a Virginia
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: Tech where Virginia Tech really outplayed them. And then last
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: week against Louisville, I mean, there was a couple of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: plays here and there. Cam Ward has bailed them out
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: the entire game, the entire season, during these tough games,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think that Florida State has the offensive personnel
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: that of Louisville or a California or a Virginia Tech does.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: But they're you mentioned, Mike Norvell is a really good coach,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: and they want to come in and there's gonna be
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: plenty of Florida State fans there. They know that this
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: game could be their entire season if they upset Miami.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, they may finish two and eight
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: or two and ten. But this game right here, and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Florida State's gonna win, but you
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: just can't come in the game thinking that it's just
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: going to be a runaway. And I just don't think
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: it will be. I think Miami wins the game, but
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be a runaway. I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: think Florida State has too much pride. This game has
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: always been too big, and like I said, there's gonna
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: be a whole lot of Florida State fans in at
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Well, let me piggyback off of what you're saying, Larry, Okay,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: and that's this non conference Miami had their way with
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: every opponent, including the Florida Gators conference. Like you just
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: pointed out, these games have been challenging. Cam Ward has
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: had to play in the entire fourth quarter, wherein it
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: before it was about when Mario Cristoval would take him out,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the third or the beginning of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So anytime you get into the ACC
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and you start playing conference fos, then things start to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: tighten up a little bit. And yes, the fact that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: this is a rivalry game has a lot to do
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: with the motivation. You know, people can say all day
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: long when you're dealing with in state rivalries that you know,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Michigan State, you know what. You can lose other opponents,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: but you need to be at Ohio State or in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: that case Michigan State. Well you know here. But that's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: what you've got here. Okay, this is a season saver
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: if you're a head coach, is what it is. In
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: most cases, the fan base will look the other way.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: But this is my aunt. But again, you're right, cam
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Ward was unbelievable. And you know the Miami. Miami has
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of great receivers that Xavier or Streppo is
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: going to play on Sunday. I know he will. This guy,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: all he does is just keep climbing the ladder. In
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: terms of receiving yards and the list goes on and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I don't have to reiterate all the other receivers. But
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: cam Ward's been proven that he can run with his legs,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Florida State does. I've seen I haven't seen as many
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: of these games as you have, but we did make
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the trip to Tallahassee last year. It was fun to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: watch the game over until Campbell Stateium. I really enjoyed it,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe how much the Seminole fans get
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: into it. But when you go to a venue for
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: the first time like we did, you know, Tallahassee is
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: a pretty good football time. It really is. With the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: history behind it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this would just be Miami's biggest attendance
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: of the year. And obviously, you know, you know an
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: other place you talk about the Big House in Michigan
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: and you talk about all the SEC schools where they
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: look at Florida State the week that Miami left and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: they had ninety something thousand. You guys were there. It
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: was the week after against Samford where they had the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: same ninety thousand. See, Miami will Miami will play in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: front of sixty sixty five thousand for Florida State, but
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: when they play Duke next week, they could have thirty
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: five thousand, And that's you know, and that's what I'm
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: trying to say. So, Miami has never been a college
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: football town. They've always had really good programs. But you
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: know where everybody now is coming out and saying that
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Miami's getting calls and the referees want them to win.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: No way, Miami's been irrelevant for the last twenty three years.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: They've been a five hundred team for the last four
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: or five years. So to me, what's happening now is
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: like I said before, last year and the year before,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Miami would have lost the last three games they would have.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: It's just you know, but you see the makeup on
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: this team right now, and you know obviously, but like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I said, this is a game just like you said,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Ohio State, Michigan, this is a game based on recruiting.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of these high profile kids
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: who will be at the game, and certainly Florida State
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: knows that, and they want to come out and play
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: as good as they can play. And that's you know,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: when that's you know, I know all the Miami fans
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: and oh, you know, we're gonna kill them. Yeah, you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: know what you could. But here's the thing. The reality
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: of it is that this is a different type of game.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: I've seen many Oklahoma Texas games where one team is
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: you know, huge favorite, but the other team ends up winning.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: So we'll see, we'll see what happens that. You know,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm still kind of those skeptical guy. You know,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: even though Miami's seven, and I'm kind of still thinking
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: about Tennessee Middle Tennessee State and the games against Western
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Michigan and you know, games like where Miami should have
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: never lost them, even been at Southern Mississippi two years ago.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Miami should have just blown them away, but they didn't.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: So you know it. You know, Mario Crestoball has done
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: a great job. He changed the roster around. I think
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: this is one of those games where you know, I mean,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: and here's the thing too, even though Florida State's one
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: and six, doesn't don't you think that, you know, because
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: I kind of made a joke after they lost last week,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: before I knew the game time that this would be
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: at nine o'clock in the morning, on Home Shopping Network,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, rather than seven o'clock on ESPN,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: So somebody knows something. It's an entertaining game, and I
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: think that everybody understands. You know, Florida State's on a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: three game winning streak, Miami owns a series thirty five
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: thirty three, and you know, it's been a competitive you know,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: you remember two years ago right here at the hard
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Rock Stadium, Florida's they crushed them forty five to three.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's in the back of Miami's mind too. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one other thing I should mention about that Louisville
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  Speaker 1: game now that we talked about it, is if Mario
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  Speaker 1: Chris Wall had not won a game after a bye
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  Speaker 1: week up until last week is the Miami Hurricanes. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, but so but obviously he got that demon
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  Speaker 1: out of his pocket. So you know, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think the score is going to be seven or
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  Speaker 1: less than that, you know, but we'll see. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: in the business to make prognostication. We're in the business
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  Speaker 1: to go out there and talk about the facts that
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  Speaker 1: left pants for their own conclusion. Candy, really quickly, is
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  Speaker 1: there anything that you want to add to it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think I've said enough on all fronts tonight. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no problem. I'm asking Candy as she has any think.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry that you were asking me.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay. The one thing I think we also
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  Speaker 2: should remember though, Florida State is without their number one quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: He injured his hand. He's expected he possibly would be
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  Speaker 2: out for the season. That makes a difference. Now the
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  Speaker 2: question will be will Miami's running game set up enough
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  Speaker 2: for cam Ward or will cam Ward have to be
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  Speaker 2: throwing it all the time to like he has the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of games at the end to come up
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  Speaker 2: and win at the end of the game. So I
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  Speaker 2: think some of those will be kind of the tough
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  Speaker 2: keys to the game running game. Will our offensive line
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  Speaker 2: hold their defense so that we can open up holes
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  Speaker 2: for our running game? And then what will their quarterback
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  Speaker 2: do as well?
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  Speaker 1: I know, George, obviously this is a topic that you're
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  Speaker 1: not as familiar with, but I just will say this,
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  Speaker 1: I Corn will have his own in state rivalry to
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  Speaker 1: deal with on Saturday night. He's going to have Michigan
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  Speaker 1: and Michigan State and Michigan have be at a tough
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  Speaker 1: year because they can't identify a quarterback as Sharon or over.
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  Speaker 1: Those will the questions that will probably be answered over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. So with that said, you know what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do now is what we always do at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the show. We're gonna let everybody know how
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  Speaker 1: they can get a hold of you, and Larry, I
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  Speaker 1: certainly want you to do everything in your power to
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  Speaker 1: promote what you do and off ken once again, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing you on Saturday, as I
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  Speaker 1: always do when we get together, and I still have
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to the day that you and I can
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: just sit there and watch a baseball game together and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: reminisce about what we've done. But that said, Larry, let
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  Speaker 1: everybody know how they can get a hold of you.
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  Speaker 1: I know you do some great work cover and prep sports.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, well, Trep Red Zone, Florida, fl on my
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  Speaker 3: as you can see on my name right there, you
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  Speaker 3: know a lot of around the state football Larry bluestein
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  Speaker 3: dot com as where we have a lot of South
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  Speaker 3: Florida stuff. Our radio show every Monday night on WQAM
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  Speaker 3: here in Miami, which is you know, the flagship station
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  Speaker 3: for the heat and the Panthers and the hurricanes, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just we have a podcast every Monday evening called The
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  Speaker 3: Six Ring Canes and I'm just, you know, doing what
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  Speaker 3: I can do. You know, I'm still on this side
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  Speaker 3: of the dirt, and you know, as long as I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing that, I'll be fine.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Like I said, Larry, there aren't a lot
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: of people I can say I've known over forty years.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just glad that you are one of those.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Of course, you're sitting alongside of George Iikorn, who's known
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  Speaker 1: me that much time. So I got to talk about
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: two individuals on the show I've known for a combined
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: total of like eighty four or eighty five years. To me,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: that shows the relationships and friendship.
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  Speaker 3: All this means we're all getting old, Scott, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're all getting old. But you know what, Larry, I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you one thing. When you and I started working
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: together many years ago, in the eighties, yeah I was
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I had hair then too, you know, so well I'm
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: covering my head up. Okay, I have my hair, but
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: it's on my face, not on the top of my head.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: And we're a coconut so but yeah, we all did.
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  Speaker 1: But you know one thing about us is we may
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: have less hair, but we got more stories. And believe me, tonight,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: for those folks that had opportunity to watch and listen
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: to this show that you've definitely got a lot of
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: history with not only baseball, but at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the Canes and the Seminoles. No dabt, George. Let everybody
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  Speaker 1: know how they can get a hold of you. I
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  Speaker 1: know your wrote a book as well. George.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can reach me at GI Corner Yahoo dot com,
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  Speaker 4: There's a copy of my book at the end of
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• 1:14:40
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• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: And Scott's in the book. I'm in the book, and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: so many of our dear friends, including the late Ernie Harwell,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: the late Paul Carey, and the late Bob Reynolds. I mean,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: there's so many great people and uh, it's a great
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  Speaker 4: it was a labor of love. But thank you all
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  Speaker 4: for beautiful listening and follow and look forward to next
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Larry, you'll be getting your copy on Saturday, so
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  Speaker 1: there you go. Just make sure I have a big
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  Speaker 1: enough freecase. We'll put it in there. I'll even offer it.
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  Speaker 1: But thanks a lot for drawing guys. I'll see you
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night, Buddy, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, thanks all right, George, thank you, Candy. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, all right, Katie, take us home.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Candy, and I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: Larry Bluestein for joining us tonight. Also hope to have
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  Speaker 1: j B Ellis back next Wednesday night. I know JB's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: been taking care of some family business in New York City,
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  Speaker 1: So Jab, you know you're always in my heart and prayers.
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  Speaker 1: You're a good friend of mine, like a brother, and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: of course Candy, thanks the world of you and George
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: as well. So meanwhile, you know glad that Larry came on.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: We will come up with a better person than that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Words series and Larry Bluestein himself,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: him and I covered a lot of baseball back in
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: the days in the nineteen eighties. George Nikkrny, it would
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: have been interesting if you would have been around to
• 1:18:48
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• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: were doing. But real a good show tonight and if
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  Speaker 1: you've missed anything, you can always watch it again. So meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: on behalf of Larry Bluestein, Candy Havelink, har DRAYCRN. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Scott Morgan at the Motor City man Mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this edition of the
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• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: good night everybody, and a good week by now enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the World Series.
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