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#44: Merz’ grades, rats in Berlin, who needs investors? · 20 Percent Berlin Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to the 20 Percent Berlin Podcast, the 20 Percent Berlin Newsletter.
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SPEAKER_01: I am co-founder, co-writer Andrew Bulkeley and I'm joined this week as always by
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SPEAKER_02: Maurice Frank.
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SPEAKER_02: How are you doing, Andrew?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm doing well, Maurice.
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SPEAKER_01: I haven't been traveling much.
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SPEAKER_01: I was in Hamburg for a day.
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SPEAKER_01: I had the jet up there really quickly.
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SPEAKER_03: You took a jet?
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SPEAKER_03: No, I went up there.
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SPEAKER_03: I took a train at the ICE.
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SPEAKER_01: It was rainy.
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SPEAKER_03: What the hell are you doing up there?
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SPEAKER_03: Comedy, what I always do, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Does anyone show up?
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't my show.
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SPEAKER_01: I was hosting a show for somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: They asked me at the last minute.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, you just talk to people for a living.
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SPEAKER_01: I talk to people and I edit video.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I do for a living.
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SPEAKER_01: But not much going on.
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SPEAKER_01: My son has had my car for two weeks, so he's bringing that back today.
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SPEAKER_01: Our car, because it's a family car.
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SPEAKER_01: It's in my wife's name, actually.
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SPEAKER_02: I have a question.
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SPEAKER_02: Where are the snacks?
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SPEAKER_01: The problem is if I have snacks, you eat all of them before I touch them.
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SPEAKER_01: And you also eat.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you know this about yourself?
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SPEAKER_01: You eat with your mouth open.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you know about this?
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SPEAKER_02: No, no.
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SPEAKER_02: I chastise other people for that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like you just sit over there going.
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SPEAKER_02: That is so untrue.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, let's move on.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You didn't ask how I'm doing.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm doing okay.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't get a chance to.
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SPEAKER_01: You asked me about the snacks.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: I've been noticing over the last week or so,
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SPEAKER_02: I've been noticing quite a few dead rats on the streets, on the pavement.
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SPEAKER_01: I actually was walking home from my little part-time gig
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SPEAKER_01: at Deutsche Welle last night,
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SPEAKER_01: and a rat was just in bedding in front of these apartments.
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SPEAKER_01: And I came around a corner, and a rat and I looked at each other.
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SPEAKER_01: Obviously, he wanted to go across my path, and I want to go across his path.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like more rats than before, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Like this month, like last month or so, it's been a lot of rats, alive and dead.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's something to do with the dryness.
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SPEAKER_02: Like they're coming out looking for food, for drink.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if there's more than there used to be.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, there probably are more per year than there used to be back in the day.
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SPEAKER_03: I just see squished rats everywhere.
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SPEAKER_03: A dead rat is the only good rat.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: There's also a drought, though.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's linked.
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SPEAKER_02: We're going through a drought.
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SPEAKER_01: Have you seen any research to prove this?
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SPEAKER_02: That's just a feeling I have.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: It's weird.
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SPEAKER_01: I see a lot of mice.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm used to seeing mice and foxes, but I don't see rats that often.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually, it was a weird thing that me and this rat communicated.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Actually,
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SPEAKER_02: I listened to a podcast about a guy that did an ultramarathon in China,
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SPEAKER_02: and a dog came up to him in China, and they fell in love.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: Wait a second.
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SPEAKER_01: So you've been listening to Phoebe Judge?
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SPEAKER_01: Phoebe?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I listened to one of those.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Phoebe Judge, and this is the 20% Berlin podcast.
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SPEAKER_03: She's got that nice, deep voice.
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SPEAKER_03: You know what?
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SPEAKER_03: She annoys the shit out of me.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, I just listened to that one podcast by her.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you listen to Heavyweight?
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SPEAKER_03: Is that why you listen to that?
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SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
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SPEAKER_02: Do we listen to the same?
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SPEAKER_02: I guess we listen to the same podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: The Heavyweight?
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SPEAKER_01: So you were listening?
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SPEAKER_02: I occasionally listen to Heavyweight.
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SPEAKER_01: Because last week there was no new Heavyweight.
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SPEAKER_01: Instead, they put the...
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SPEAKER_03: That's the one.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Fuck, this world is creepy.
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SPEAKER_03: Let's get back to Germany and Berlin.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: What were you going to say about the guy running the marathon with the go be the dog?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that it's you fell in love with a rat.
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SPEAKER_02: He fell in love with a dog.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, with a dog.
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SPEAKER_03: You connected with a rat.
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SPEAKER_01: This is Love, I think it's called.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a podcast by Phoebe Judge.
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SPEAKER_01: She used to do criminal.
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SPEAKER_01: She got known for doing criminal.
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SPEAKER_01: The podcast that we both stumbled into,
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SPEAKER_01: This is Love by Phoebe Judge,
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SPEAKER_01: was actually Heavyweight,
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SPEAKER_01: which is a podcast where if you have some
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SPEAKER_03: unresolved issue from your past,
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SPEAKER_03: he will help you resolve it.
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SPEAKER_03: But yeah, Phoebe Judge has this really velvety voice, which I kind of like.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually annoys me.
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SPEAKER_01: This week, we want to talk about Chancellor Metz.
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SPEAKER_01: Turns out was not a very good student.
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SPEAKER_01: He finally released his grades after all these years.
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SPEAKER_01: We want to talk about how investors are apparently afraid to invest in Berlin.
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SPEAKER_01: The outgoing coalition,
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SPEAKER_01: CD-led coalition,
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SPEAKER_01: approved two major construction projects because they wanted to get them approved
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SPEAKER_01: before the new coalition comes in because they fear
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SPEAKER_01: the new coalition will not approve them.
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SPEAKER_01: There's plans to tear down Hitler's bunker.
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SPEAKER_01: Everyone talks about Nazi bunker, but it's really about Hitler's bunker.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, this is not the actual Führer bunker, but we'll get to that.
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SPEAKER_03: And finally,
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SPEAKER_03: with just a funny news
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SPEAKER_01: item that apparently eight people monitored
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SPEAKER_01: the Tiergarten tunnel,
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SPEAKER_01: which pushed cars beneath the Hauptbahnhof and Potsdamer Platz.
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SPEAKER_01: And last week, three people were sick, so the tunnel had to close some.
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SPEAKER_01: So we want to talk a little bit about that.
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SPEAKER_01: Should we start with Merz's grades?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: nothing's really happening on the national level other than,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: rising unemployment and sluggish
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SPEAKER_01: labor minister just resigned
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SPEAKER_01: because she said she was being mobbed.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, she did?
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, that's not that interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, Matz's grades.
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SPEAKER_02: So Matz,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: he was a high-flying lawyer who worked for BlackRock,
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SPEAKER_02: etc., But it turns out he was a really bad high school student.
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SPEAKER_02: He was on a podcast and somehow they got him to reveal his Abitur Norte,
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SPEAKER_02: which is sort of like your final grade for your
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SPEAKER_02: school leaving exams.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess it would be your diploma in America.
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SPEAKER_02: Your high school diploma kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, your GPA.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it was only a 3.8.
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SPEAKER_02: In Germany, the grades are backwards.
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SPEAKER_02: The best is a 1, and the worst you can get is a 5.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And you get a 3.8.
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SPEAKER_02: And basically, if you get anything higher than 4, you fail, right?
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SPEAKER_02: So a 4.1 would have been a failure.
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SPEAKER_01: What was your GPA?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like an A-, B+, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: What was yours?
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SPEAKER_03: You know what?
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SPEAKER_03: I think it was actually,
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SPEAKER_03: I think it was, now that I think about it, I think it was a 2.75 in high school.
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SPEAKER_03: What do you mean?
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SPEAKER_03: But that's, you didn't go to high school here?
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SPEAKER_03: No, in America, 2.5.
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SPEAKER_03: Have we had a number as well?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you say in letters?
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SPEAKER_01: A 2.75 would be like a C plus, a B minus.
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SPEAKER_01: Now look at us now.
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SPEAKER_03: We're not running a country.
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SPEAKER_01: College, I think I got a 3.5,
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SPEAKER_03: which was a C minus.
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SPEAKER_01: College was easy, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I should have gotten an A.
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SPEAKER_01: And we're running a media empire, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the idiocracy.
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SPEAKER_01: The morons are controlling the world.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you think that Trump actually earned any degree he ever got?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, he even started his own university.
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SPEAKER_02: It already failed, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And he started a steak brand.
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SPEAKER_02: But look at him.
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SPEAKER_02: He somehow got to where he is now anyway by being a dumbo.
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SPEAKER_01: What's incredible is what an insufferable twat Mance is.
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SPEAKER_01: Every time there's a problem where he could maybe apologize or say, we maybe are a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: He always says, we didn't do it.
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't me.
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SPEAKER_01: I have nothing.
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think the man has ever said, I'm sorry.
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SPEAKER_02: He's not known for his emotional intelligence.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's horrible.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And he's like, I don't know, he's such a goofball too.
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SPEAKER_03: How did somebody with so little charisma get to that stage?
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SPEAKER_03: I think saying goofball is too nice.
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SPEAKER_03: Like a goofball can be endearing.
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SPEAKER_03: There's nothing interesting about him.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have a certain sympathy because he's as tall as I am.
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SPEAKER_03: What's it like tall men hang out together?
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SPEAKER_03: Sort of tall solidarity, but that's about it, I guess.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you call it tall-a-darity?
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SPEAKER_02: There we go, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: and he didn't want to reveal it because he didn't want to be a bad role model
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SPEAKER_02: for his seven grandchildren or something.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't even know he had that many grandchildren.
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SPEAKER_02: He should just step back and enjoy the time he has with his grandchildren.
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SPEAKER_02: The time he has left?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I wish he would.
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SPEAKER_02: Like rente mit 63, what about that?
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SPEAKER_02: Like retirement at 63.
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SPEAKER_02: It should apply to these guys too.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know why we're still talking about this.
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SPEAKER_01: So the federal government wants to get rid of,
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SPEAKER_01: if you had paid into the retirement fund for 45 years,
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SPEAKER_01: regardless of what age,
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SPEAKER_01: basically you're 63,
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SPEAKER_01: you start at 18, then you could retire at 63 with full benefits.
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SPEAKER_01: And they want to get rid of this.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is like a huge sticking point.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
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SPEAKER_01: that should be the first thing they say,
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SPEAKER_01: all right,
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SPEAKER_03: we're not going to get rid of that.
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SPEAKER_02: And the thing is, usually it is, It's people with working class jobs.
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SPEAKER_02: They don't go to university,
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SPEAKER_02: they do an apprenticeship,
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SPEAKER_02: and then they work in a factory or a building site or some technical job
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SPEAKER_02: for like 45 years straight.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm fine with that.
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SPEAKER_02: But sort of like guys called Florian who went and studied sociology and then went
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SPEAKER_02: to South America for three years and then started working in an NGO at like 32,
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SPEAKER_02: they can work to 70.
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SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
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SPEAKER_01: That's why I don't understand why this should have been the first thing
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SPEAKER_01: when there was resistance to it.
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SPEAKER_01: They just said, all right, You know what?
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SPEAKER_01: Those guys can keep their early retirement.
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SPEAKER_01: They've worked with their backs their whole life.
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SPEAKER_01: But these are the things.
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SPEAKER_01: This is the problem where Matt doesn't get.
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SPEAKER_01: You need to make little concessions.
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SPEAKER_01: You need to listen to people when they talk in order to get the big.
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SPEAKER_01: He doesn't see the big picture.
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SPEAKER_02: But then there's also office jobs that are also kind of menial and kind
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SPEAKER_02: of like working class too, like in a
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SPEAKER_03: call center
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SPEAKER_02: or something.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you want to do that until you're 70?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: Life sucks.
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SPEAKER_03: Where do you...
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SPEAKER_02: Split it up.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, just do the 45 years.
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SPEAKER_01: If you paid 45 years in, you're out.
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SPEAKER_01: Fair enough.
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SPEAKER_01: But they're battling this.
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SPEAKER_01: We're just like, it's such a dumb thing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a dumb hill to die on, I think.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, fair enough.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, Notes is a dummy.
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SPEAKER_02: He admitted it.
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SPEAKER_01: He's a big dummy.
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SPEAKER_01: All right, good.
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SPEAKER_01: Anything else to say about Notes being stupid?
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SPEAKER_03: He's a crap politician because he doesn't know how to rally his own troops.
9:45
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
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SPEAKER_03: This is what's weird.
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SPEAKER_01: How did he get where he is?
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SPEAKER_01: But I also thought that about Mackle.
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SPEAKER_01: You never saw Mackle doing any wheeling or dealing within the party, but apparently she was.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she did it backstage.
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SPEAKER_01: And I guess Matz did too.
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SPEAKER_01: Although I kind of feel like Matz was like, everybody knew this was going to be a thankless job.
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SPEAKER_01: So everybody who might be good was like, no, you go ahead, Freddy.
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SPEAKER_02: The thing is he was in the corporate world for a long time
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SPEAKER_02: and there you can just tell people to do stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: And in politics you have to do stuff with people.
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SPEAKER_01: My part-time job at Deutsche Welle,
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SPEAKER_01: I have to tell people there's managing involved and sometimes it's just a shit show.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes people just... Whoa!
10:29
SPEAKER_01: Alexa weighing in!
10:32
SPEAKER_01: That's because she knows you hate her.
10:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do hate you, Alexa.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: I tried to man,
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SPEAKER_02: remember we worked together at a newspaper and I was supposed to be your manager
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SPEAKER_02: and you just,
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SPEAKER_02: if you didn't want to do something, you just said, well, I can just quit.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just too old, man.
10:45
SPEAKER_02: You did not like to get instructions
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SPEAKER_03: or criticism for that matter.
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SPEAKER_03: Which, would you want to talk about specific issues?
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SPEAKER_03: You want to air the dirty laundry?
10:55
SPEAKER_02: No, here we are.
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SPEAKER_02: Now we have a company, a media empire together and we are equals here.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's good.
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SPEAKER_02: So let's move on.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's not talk about awkward things, Andrew.
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SPEAKER_03: You wanted to talk about it.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't bring it up.
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SPEAKER_01: Berlin's outgoing coalition,
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SPEAKER_01: the CDU-led coalition,
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SPEAKER_01: has green-lighted two high-rise construction plans because they're afraid
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SPEAKER_01: the next coalition would not approve them.
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SPEAKER_01: The first one, I didn't even know this thing existed.
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SPEAKER_01: They want to build four skyscrapers on that piece of land.
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SPEAKER_01: When you're taking the S-Bahn into Tso, there's a circus there right now.
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SPEAKER_01: First, there's the building where the zoo prepares all their food,
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SPEAKER_01: which I think is kind of cool, and then that circus right next to it.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you want to live next to the building where the zoo prepares?
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SPEAKER_01: No, I just think it's a cool thing that there's like a zoo kitchen, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Sounds interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: That's that building.
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SPEAKER_01: But next to that is the circus that's been there forever.
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SPEAKER_01: So they want to develop that land with four skyscrapers.
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SPEAKER_01: One or two of them would be office buildings because Lord knows we don't have enough
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SPEAKER_01: of that in Berlin.
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SPEAKER_01: Another one would be a residential project with 500 student apartments
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SPEAKER_01: and 210 normal apartments.
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I said I'm in favor if they scrap the offices.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, why?
12:08
SPEAKER_02: Why, why, why?
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SPEAKER_01: The problem is on paper,
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SPEAKER_01: the offices look better because you could get twice the rent,
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SPEAKER_01: so that's where the investment money is going.
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SPEAKER_03: Right, but if nobody's renting?
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SPEAKER_01: Apparently that's not happening quite yet.
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SPEAKER_01: You would think that it's got to be softening up.
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SPEAKER_01: The fourth building will be a new building for the Technical University,
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SPEAKER_01: which is right there as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Then the other one they approved is this crazy... How high is this thing?
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SPEAKER_01: This...
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SPEAKER_01: This tower,
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SPEAKER_01: this skyscraper right by the Spree,
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SPEAKER_01: 167 meter tower east of Warschauer Brücke,
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SPEAKER_01: basically on the Spree, kind of across from the Universal Studios.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's not that tall.
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SPEAKER_03: Like the World Trade Center is what, like 500 meters?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, but Amazon is 140 meters, so
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SPEAKER_01: it definitely does not fit that neighborhood.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, there would be a thousand apartments in this thing over on Friedrichshain.
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SPEAKER_01: 300 for low, more than 300 for low income.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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SPEAKER_02: People want more apartments and then you can't complain when you,
12:57
SPEAKER_02: when somebody's saying, Hey, here's some new apartments.
13:00
SPEAKER_01: Like the problem is there's this little, and
13:01
SPEAKER_02: there's even social housing in it.
13:03
SPEAKER_02: What are you complaining about?
13:04
SPEAKER_01: There's a cute little neighborhood just like between that and what club is that?
13:07
SPEAKER_01: Sisyphus or not?
13:08
SPEAKER_01: It's not that cute.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: It's like one little block.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: It's one little nice block.
13:13
SPEAKER_01: Richard Keats?
13:15
SPEAKER_01: No, Richard Keats.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, there's one little nice neighborhood right there, and they're all complaining.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: They're like, you're going to ruin our neighborhood.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: It's great for the bars in the neighborhood.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: Any other direction you go is just urban hell.
13:29
SPEAKER_02: It's a city.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:31
SPEAKER_02: It's a city.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not, not bullaboo.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: That's what, well,
13:35
SPEAKER_02: that's what Germans say when somebody has like a utopian idea of like a,
13:39
SPEAKER_02: what a city should be.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: Like that's where, isn't that like
13:43
SPEAKER_03: where Astrid
13:45
SPEAKER_03: Lindgren characters live?
13:47
SPEAKER_02: Like Swedish fairytale land.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, live in Burlebro.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: So it's a dead neighborhood anyway.
13:53
SPEAKER_02: That will enliven the neighborhood to have a thousand more people living there.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that that...
13:58
SPEAKER_01: The problem is there's one block that's sort of... That's Burlebro.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: It's a very idyllic little neighborhood right there.
14:03
SPEAKER_01: But everywhere else is just hell.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: Waschauer Straße?
14:07
SPEAKER_03: Washoe Brücke, the S-Bahn, U-Bahn.
14:10
SPEAKER_03: It's called Monster Ronsens.
14:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Monster Ronsens.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: Like the whole neighborhood is just an urban.
14:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the Amazon Tower, the shopping center is just total hell there.
14:18
SPEAKER_03: The shopping centers already, stores are going out of it.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: Like one of the, some government agencies moving into the mall because it's like.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Are you serious?
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I read about that the other day.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: There's so much empty retail everywhere.
14:31
SPEAKER_02: Have you noticed this?
14:32
SPEAKER_01: My neighborhood's just dying out.
14:34
SPEAKER_02: There's just no, nobody wants to open a shop anymore.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, who can blame them?
14:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's
14:40
SPEAKER_03: too expensive.
14:41
SPEAKER_03: It's the same thing everywhere.
14:42
SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I don't buy stuff in shops.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: But do we think it was Dickie of the outgoing coalition to approve these projects
14:51
SPEAKER_01: under the nose of our incoming left-wing coalition?
14:55
SPEAKER_01: No.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to vote no.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think the housing situation is so urgent.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: I think it's fine to override the local district on this kind of stuff.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: The Nimbys, the local Nimbys.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: The Nimbys, yeah.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: And you know,
15:09
SPEAKER_02: the architect,
15:09
SPEAKER_02: some Danish architect making the Tower of Oshawa, it's going to be cool.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: The thing is,
15:13
SPEAKER_01: I see these, like,
15:14
SPEAKER_01: I think the same thing when people are like, oh,
15:15
SPEAKER_01: they're going to build on Temple of Ophelfeld,
15:17
SPEAKER_01: which I am 100%,
15:17
SPEAKER_01: I could not be more against,
15:19
SPEAKER_01: but I'm like,
15:19
SPEAKER_01: if they build there, I'm going to be one of the first people buying a flat there.
15:24
SPEAKER_01: And then I looked at that tower,
15:25
SPEAKER_01: because I got curious about when I wrote about it,
15:27
SPEAKER_01: and I looked at the tower, I was like, dude, I'd rent an apartment there.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Is it cool?
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're up on the 20th floor.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: You're overlooking the Spree.
15:33
SPEAKER_01: You could see all the way to Brandenburg.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm a little scared of heights, but...
15:36
SPEAKER_01: You'd be looking down at...
15:38
SPEAKER_03: Basically, the first thing you'd probably see is Temple of.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: You can't open the windows, right?
15:42
SPEAKER_01: The balconies.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: See, a balcony on the 20th floor, I'm not going to do that.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't want any way to fall down.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: You really do have tall people problems.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: I would have to make the railing of the balcony like a foot higher just for me.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I thought I'd look, I was like, I'm going to, I'll rent over there.
16:03
SPEAKER_01: I'll move over there.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: Or maybe like a cape or a cage around the balcony.
16:07
SPEAKER_01: Problem is, this is going to be 10 years until these things are built.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: What?
16:11
SPEAKER_02: Like the Varshala-Purka one?
16:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so I'm all for it.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: Moving on.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: It's up to you now.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm also like building up.
16:21
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what we need.
16:22
SPEAKER_02: If you want to have a city and if you want to have You want to live in a city?
16:28
SPEAKER_02: There's no other way than building up.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we definitely are, though.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: Think about when we moved here and now Alexanderplatz has these two new high-rises.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: It should actually be three.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: Was it not for the war in Ukraine, for those mean Ukraine people allowing Russia to invade them?
16:42
SPEAKER_02: Come on, Andrew.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: If it wasn't for Russia invading,
16:45
SPEAKER_01: there would be three now, because the other Adler Tower would be done.
16:48
SPEAKER_01: It was Russian money.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that would be, so we would have three new high-rises.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: And that's like totally changing the face of Alexanderplatz.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: And then if you go over to Zoo, there's already two new tall ones there.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: There are hotels, Motel 1 and...
17:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm okay with it.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know a lot of Berliners are not okay.
17:04
SPEAKER_02: They want to keep the sort of cozy, small-town Keats vibe in their...
17:10
SPEAKER_01: Not going to happen.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: Speaking of, why don't you tell us about investors in Berlin?
17:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, so two little news items.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: One is the Kottbusser tour.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: Somebody sprayed in German,
17:26
SPEAKER_02: Investoren töten,
17:28
SPEAKER_02: which could be, as you pointed out, it could mean investors
17:30
SPEAKER_03: kill or kill investors.
17:33
SPEAKER_03: When I first saw it,
17:34
SPEAKER_03: because I saw it online as a discussion, I thought they were saying kill investors.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: And it was until later that I realized they could be saying investors kill.
17:43
SPEAKER_01: Right.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: Both things, valid.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, kill investors.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, in a way, everyone's an investor.
17:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't think so.
17:53
SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you have any shares?
17:55
SPEAKER_03: We're investors.
17:56
SPEAKER_03: I don't think my kids, for example, are investors.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, did they ever buy something so they could make money?
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Nothing I know of.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: Most people become an investor at some point.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: They put some money to the side and watch it grow.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: Tell me your upper marital class without telling me.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
18:19
SPEAKER_02: So kill all those people.
18:22
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, yeah.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: But then at the same time, a story or whatever, press release...
18:28
SPEAKER_02: This guy,
18:30
SPEAKER_02: Olaf Demut,
18:32
SPEAKER_02: told Tagesspiegel that because of D-Linker's plans to socialize housing,
18:40
SPEAKER_02: the actual real estate investors are getting the heebie-jeebies.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: It's having a devastating effect.
18:47
SPEAKER_02: Good, good.
18:48
SPEAKER_02: Why is that good?
18:50
SPEAKER_01: The thing is, I reported on hardcore financial investors for 15 years.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: Private equity, sovereign debt funds, that's what I wrote about.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: Who cares about these guys?
19:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, because they're the ones building those towers and stuff.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: They're the ones that caused this problem to begin with.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: And besides what, you don't need to protect them because they're all little vultures.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: They're all little cockroaches.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: And if somebody hears that Goldman Sachs isn't here,
19:16
SPEAKER_01: then that just means another fund is like, oh, Goldman Sachs is not there.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: Then I'm in that market.
19:19
SPEAKER_01: Somebody is just going to move in right behind them.
19:21
SPEAKER_01: And so what if fewer investors are here?
19:24
SPEAKER_01: That means that the property values are going to go down because people aren't going
19:27
SPEAKER_01: to be bidding for all these properties.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: And then it'll be cheaper for Berlin to build.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: And you know what will happen?
19:32
SPEAKER_01: Who's going to build the state?
19:33
SPEAKER_01: The city, the state.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: And you know what will happen is then some investor will come in and say, oh, you know what?
19:38
SPEAKER_01: Then I'll build these flats for you, Berlin.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: Why don't you pay me to build them for you?
19:41
SPEAKER_01: That's what will happen.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the city doesn't do the actual building.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, somebody has to do it for you.
19:45
SPEAKER_01: So suddenly somebody is going to come up with an idea of a fund.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: We'll put together all this money to build flats for Berlin and Berlin will pay us
19:52
SPEAKER_01: and we'll take 10%.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: Like investors,
19:54
SPEAKER_01: you don't have to worry about investors because as soon as one investor leaves,
19:57
SPEAKER_01: another investor comes in with another idea.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: That's how capitalism works.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: Right.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: But Olaf, you know, his job, he's the lobbyist of the construction industry.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's his job to complain about this stuff.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: And also, it's like, prove it to me.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: Prove it to me that you left.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, all I have to do right now is call up a real estate investor and say,
20:15
SPEAKER_01: hey, are you thinking of leaving because of Dilinka?
20:17
SPEAKER_01: And they will say, yeah, of course.
20:19
SPEAKER_01: Because it doesn't hurt them to say words.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: Right.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't mean they'll actually leave either.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: And what an investor says and what he actually does are two different things.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: You have to look at what they actually do.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I think that really applies to anyone.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I guess so, but I think a politician talks a little, well, I guess not.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
20:37
SPEAKER_02: but he's saying that they are actually having trouble raising capital for plans
20:42
SPEAKER_02: to build in Berlin because even the banks are skeptical about what's happening
20:46
SPEAKER_02: in Berlin.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: Skeptical of what?
20:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe it.
20:51
SPEAKER_03: Expropriation, too much state meddling.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Good, then the prices go down and it's cheaper for the state to build.
20:57
SPEAKER_02: The prices go down, but then do new flats actually sprout out of the ground magically?
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Can the state take care of all of that?
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Can it do 20,000 a year?
21:08
SPEAKER_02: 20,000 new flats?
21:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, who's building the most flats right now anyway are the public housing companies.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
21:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: I meant to look up the figure.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: But it's like investors aren't building flats anyway, so who cares?
21:19
SPEAKER_01: All right.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: This is my opinion.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Fine, you know more about it than I do.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: I just think investors, there's always another investor.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: Somebody's always greedy enough to try it.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: So stop worrying about the investors.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm not worried about them.
21:32
SPEAKER_03: Not you, the press.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: All right.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: What's next?
21:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: It's me.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: I guess we've, I just,
21:40
SPEAKER_01: I just think this investment thing, somebody will show up to do it in any way.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: We want the government to build more flats.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: And if investors can't spend all this money on the land that they bought,
21:49
SPEAKER_01: then they'll just sell the land for cheap because they want to write it off and move
21:52
SPEAKER_01: on.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: Let him go develop another underdeveloped place.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: Just not Germany.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: I feel like the problem is this housing crisis,
22:00
SPEAKER_01: it's such a level, it's such a crisis and nobody is doing anything, nothing.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but the guy who's building the tower with a thousand flats, they're doing something.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: And they forced him to make 30% of them social housing.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: Right, but that company is an investor.
22:17
SPEAKER_03: But he's working together with the city and it'll happen.
22:19
SPEAKER_03: Right.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe more of that kind of thing is going to be good.
22:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: Like, Right, but then Fruitsche and Kreuzberg
22:27
SPEAKER_03: didn't want them to do it.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: They tried to block it.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know how we're anti-Kreuzberg, really, as a podcast, as like a family podcast.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, God.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot, like Kreuzberg as a neighborhood, they're just hypocrites.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: Do we need to go there right now?
22:46
SPEAKER_02: No, we don't have to go there right now.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: Moving on, it's up to you.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, you did investors.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: So now I can talk about the Tiergarten Tunnel.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know why every time the Tiergarten... Do you remember the Entlastungsstraße?
22:58
SPEAKER_01: It was called the Entlastung, the... How do you translate that?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: The freeing up street?
23:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: There used to be a street relief road.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Relief road.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: The relief road would go through Tiergarten.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: And the idea was it was to get traffic to go to relieve the traffic everywhere else.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: And then that road was replaced by the tunnel.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: So every time I go through the tunnel,
23:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
23:16
SPEAKER_01: oh, so the tunnel, it shuttles cars between the train station and Potsdamer Platz.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: And it was closed all last week or most of last week because there are eight people
23:25
SPEAKER_01: who monitor the traffic going through it.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: They have to watch these monitors to make sure there's no car accident.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Two of those eight people are on long-term sick leave because this is Germany.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: And then the last guy like called in sick, like he probably got COVID.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: All of my comedian friends have COVID right now.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: So I'm just guessing.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that he actually had COVID.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm just guessing.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: So then they had to close the tunnel in the afternoons.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: It could only be open in the mornings because there weren't enough people.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: I was directly affected,
23:50
SPEAKER_02: you know, because after
23:52
SPEAKER_03: all my ordeals on the S-Ban, I went ahead and got a car.
23:55
SPEAKER_03: After all you bitched about- It's an EV
23:58
SPEAKER_01: though, man, okay?
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Back when you were criticizing me for not being able to criticize it,
24:02
SPEAKER_01: you were talking about how electric cars are a farce.
24:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but they're pretty good actually.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: And now you have one.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: It was out of desperation.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: So I drive through that tunnel every morning.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: But then what would really suck was last week, I would drive through the tunnel in the morning.
24:18
SPEAKER_02: And on the way back, the tunnel was closed.
24:20
SPEAKER_02: So it would take so long to get home.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: Because all the traffic would just filter through different parts of Mitter.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: And it was just like gridlock throughout the city center.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: So your kids go to school in an undefined suburb that you prefer not to talk about.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: My kids went to school in Wilmersdorf.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: I live in Prenzlauberg.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: And one Friday I picked my kids up from school and it took us,
24:40
SPEAKER_01: I think, three hours to drive home because traffic was so bad through the town.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: And that was the day I decided we're moving to Wilmersdorf.
24:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
24:47
SPEAKER_03: So we did.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: But we're back in Prenzlauberg now.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a nightmare.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, how do you say you're upper middle class without saying it?
24:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, totally.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: And I own my flat.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: I own this flat.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: You just sort of like,
24:58
SPEAKER_02: you know,
25:00
SPEAKER_02: The difference is- Switch back from Vilmasdorf to Prince Island back at a whim.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: At will, yeah.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: Depending on which property you're in the mood for.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: Just feel like it, yeah.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: You own a place over there too, I guess.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: No, I wish that's one of my big regrets in life is when we moved over there in 2012,
25:16
SPEAKER_01: I guess,
25:17
SPEAKER_01: so that I didn't buy one of those big 170 square meter Vilmasdorf flats
25:20
SPEAKER_01: with servants' quarters.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: The apartment we rented, it had two entrances, one for the servants and one for us.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: We just don't have any servants.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: But back in the day, the servants were not allowed to use the front door.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: So I didn't.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: But the Tiergarten Tunnel,
25:36
SPEAKER_01: also the problem is when you exit onto the Ufa,
25:39
SPEAKER_01: what's the name of the street with the Ufa?
25:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh, in the south.
25:42
SPEAKER_03: Is that where you get out to go?
25:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: And it's on the hill.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: It's going to be pretty good to clutch on the brake there.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: It's an electric car.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: It has a thing where it just sticks.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: My first car I ever had Subaru was called the Hill Hold.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there was a trademark sign behind it.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: I love this electric car.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: It's so cheap too.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: You can go to Lidl and tank up on electricity for half the price of anywhere else
26:12
SPEAKER_02: while you shop.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
26:15
SPEAKER_03: You drive to Lidl?
26:17
SPEAKER_03: There's one down the road for me.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: All right.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so this back to the Tiergarten tunnel thing.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: I feel like you could sort of start to feel that there are not enough workers in Germany.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: Can you just get AI to watch the tunnel?
26:31
SPEAKER_01: I actually wanted to write that.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: I thought like this seems like something that AI could do.
26:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't even think AI.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: I think computers generally could do it even before AI.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: Like can't they just see like cars are apparently standing still?
26:42
SPEAKER_01: Like that's what we're basically looking for.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: Why do they need eight people to stare
26:47
SPEAKER_03: at screens of cars?
26:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: No, but have you ever tried to fill a shift
26:52
SPEAKER_01: plan like 24 hours a day?
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Right, but you could have one person doing it or maybe two and then they just,
26:56
SPEAKER_02: the AI just alerts them to problems.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: This is what I think.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, it probably has to be that way now, doesn't it?
27:00
SPEAKER_01: The computer.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: I guess so.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, because Joanna wrote in the messages when she's like, you don't need AI for that.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: Computers can do it.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: So I would think, whatever the argument, a computer AI, but I would think so.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, because the traffic is like, it's either moving or it's not.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: And when it's not moving is when it's a problem.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: But I would think actually the person is looking at like 10 tunnels.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing it's not just one tunnel.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
27:23
SPEAKER_02: what's interesting is that until a couple of years ago,
27:26
SPEAKER_02: the tunnel was managed by the federal government.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: And then they handed it over to Berlin and then it's been downhill since.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: Berlin is like your undependable friend.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: We have one friend,
27:40
SPEAKER_01: like anytime there's a group outing and she's coming,
27:43
SPEAKER_01: you just know she's going to show up three hours late.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: She's the Berlin of our group.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: The funny thing is she never cancels, but she just shows up three hours late.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: People will be packing up a picnic.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: She's like, oh, I just got here.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, what were you doing?
27:55
SPEAKER_01: That's the Berlin.
27:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: But I feel like sometimes I was somewhere, oh,
27:59
SPEAKER_01: I was at BO company the other day buying,
28:01
SPEAKER_01: and there were four people behind the counter,
28:02
SPEAKER_01: like where you buy Birchen, four people, because three of them were being trained.
28:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: And I thought this is just, I thought of the Tiergott and I'm like, this is the same thing.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: They have no workers.
28:12
SPEAKER_03: Huh.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: So like the one guy who couldn't, and you could tell he just, he started about a week ago.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: So now he's training the three new people.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: It's not badly paid.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: It's like four or five grand just to sit there.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: But I think there's just not people.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: I think there's just not bodies.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe they need to advertise.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: That's the feeling I get.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: I might be wrong.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you need some kind of like German qualification.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: You have to have a departure qualification.
28:39
SPEAKER_03: No, I meant for the tunnel watching.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: Like what's the qualification?
28:42
SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you ever worry like we're getting older, you
28:44
SPEAKER_01: won't be able to get a job?
28:44
SPEAKER_01: Like what are you going to do?
28:46
SPEAKER_02: How are you going
28:47
SPEAKER_01: to pay the bills?
28:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm growing their media empire.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: Because my plan was always Deutsche Welle.
28:52
SPEAKER_01: I used to joke like if nothing else, then I'm there.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what if I just, what if I have to leave there?
28:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go drive a tram.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: That's my plan.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: Do you have the eyesight for that?
29:06
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to have good eyesight to drive a tram, do you?
29:08
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: You have to have nerves of steel.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: I did think about it.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: What if I accidentally run over a kid or something?
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, God.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: The tram problem.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: You know about the tram
29:17
SPEAKER_03: problem?
29:17
SPEAKER_02: Everybody knows about the tram problem.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: Do they teach you about the tram problem at tram driving school?
29:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, what if they do?
29:24
SPEAKER_02: There's a kid here and a grandmother here.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Which one do you hit?
29:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: As a tram driver, you don't actually get to...
29:31
SPEAKER_02: Like move the switch.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: You know what happened this morning?
29:34
SPEAKER_01: Do you?
29:34
SPEAKER_01: My wife and I had to go to Friedrichstein this morning.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: On the way back,
29:37
SPEAKER_01: the tram driver had to get out to move the switch, locked his keys in the cockpit.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: He locked himself out.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: Luckily, it was on Dansegerstrasse where there's all this construction right now.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: And he had his little window open.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: So he went over to the construction guys.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: He's like, hey, can I borrow a thing so I can get my keys?
29:52
SPEAKER_01: Like a wrench?
29:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: So the guy just came over and like reached in with the pliers and grabbed his keys.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: But he locked himself out.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: Do they always have to change
30:01
SPEAKER_03: the switches themselves?
30:02
SPEAKER_03: Isn't there somebody in a central office?
30:05
SPEAKER_03: But I have seen them do it a lot recently.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: But I stand there sometimes at the intersection and see them change automatically.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: So apparently sometimes they still do, sometimes they don't.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: We're on to the Nazi bunker now.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so this is one of those classic Berlin stories.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we haven't been talking much about Hitler recently,
30:26
SPEAKER_02: but, um, there's a dispute going on about a large Nazi bunker near Potsdamer Platz.
30:34
SPEAKER_03: It's not It's actually the so-called Führerbunker,
30:39
SPEAKER_03: which is like the actual bunker where Hitler spent his final hours.
30:42
SPEAKER_03: But it's a giant bunker, which was beneath his
30:47
SPEAKER_02: Reichskanzlei, which was his sort of White House.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: And it was, yeah,
30:53
SPEAKER_02: it's this huge bunker and it's on a vacant lot and somebody wants to build something
30:56
SPEAKER_02: on it.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: They want to build like a mixed use building, residential units, offices for some reason.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: Berliner Unterwelten, this sort of non-profit that preserves old bunkers.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: They're like, we cannot just demolish this bunker.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: It's an incredible piece of history.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: Berlin-Onteville also has in the past given guided
31:24
SPEAKER_03: tours to the actual Hitler bunker.
31:27
SPEAKER_03: I didn't know they did that.
31:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to have to go look that up.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know if they're doing it anymore.
31:31
SPEAKER_02: Because there's this whole fear that if you made publicize Hitler's bunker too much,
31:38
SPEAKER_03: all every neo-Nazi around the world would come there and lay flowers there.
31:42
SPEAKER_03: It becomes a pilgrimage.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: So anyway,
31:44
SPEAKER_02: so now they're talking about a compromise between the developer
31:50
SPEAKER_02: and Berliner Unterwelt where they would keep the bunker beneath the building
31:56
SPEAKER_02: and have a documentation center.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: 100%, I think so.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think the developer likes it because it messes up their plans.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: So the Berlin authorities have to look at this plan and figure it out.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
32:09
SPEAKER_02: Keep it?
32:10
SPEAKER_02: Keep it.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: I think you've got to keep some of these things.
32:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's just a dank, disgusting basement,
32:15
SPEAKER_03: but it is,
32:16
SPEAKER_02: you know, it's like the last remnant of Hitler's office, basically.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: Remember when I moved here at the end of the 90s?
32:24
SPEAKER_01: People were like mad that the wall, they said, oh, there's no more pieces of the wall.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: It's all gone.
32:29
SPEAKER_01: If you lived here, you knew that was a lie.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: There were pieces left.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: And now they're memorial sites.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: But back at the end of the 90s, they were just there.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: People were just stealing them too.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: And so I think it's a little bit of like that.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Like you need to, all right, there's plenty of things left from the Nazis.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: Like there's nothing left from them.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: Like there's nothing left to the wall.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: But I think you've got to keep what's there and just kind of,
32:48
SPEAKER_01: especially this thing, You're going to build around it.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, maybe you can't have parking garages below what you're going to do, but so what?
32:55
SPEAKER_02: It's also such a dull neighborhood, like a Nazi bunker would really spice it up.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think,
33:03
SPEAKER_01: I just don't see how you can,
33:04
SPEAKER_01: it's like,
33:06
SPEAKER_01: Taguspiel had a piece about they found the basis of the guardhouse
33:10
SPEAKER_01: at Checkpoint Charlie.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't care about that.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, Checkpoint Charlie is so done.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: They just saw it some pieces of wood.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: No, it was like, it's cement.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: Of course, they dug a foundation.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't really care about the guard houses at Checkpoint Charlie,
33:22
SPEAKER_01: but I think a Nazi bunker,
33:24
SPEAKER_01: especially one that closely related to Hitler, you've got to kind of keep it.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: Hey, I have a question.
33:32
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
33:32
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you can answer this.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: You know,
33:33
SPEAKER_02: there's always been this rumor that in the subway stop near there,
33:40
SPEAKER_02: it used to
33:42
SPEAKER_03: be called Morgenstahl, so now it's called something else.
33:44
SPEAKER_03: Anton, I went through that.
33:45
SPEAKER_03: I was on YouTube the other day.
33:46
SPEAKER_03: I was like, what the hell is this stop?
33:48
SPEAKER_03: Anton, yeah.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Forget his name.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, but the stone on the wall is supposed to be from the Reichskanzlei,
33:56
SPEAKER_02: from Hitler's old office.
33:58
SPEAKER_03: It's not.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: It's a Okay.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: There's not enough.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: There would not have been enough marble.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Because the two myths are that the Russian memorial out in Treptower Park,
34:08
SPEAKER_01: they used the marble from the Reichskanzlei and Morenstrasse.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: So where did they get the marble?
34:13
SPEAKER_01: It's like from Brandenburg.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Really?
34:17
SPEAKER_01: You can look it up.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: There's no marble in Brandenburg.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: There wasn't enough.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's from Italy somewhere.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: But there wasn't enough in the Reichskanzlei to actually do what they did in Morenstrasse.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: No, because I was in there the other day and there was this sort of group
34:29
SPEAKER_02: of British tourists just talking about it.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is like Hitler's marble or something.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: No.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: All right, glad we cleared that up.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a myth.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, keep the Nazi bunker, guided tours, documentation center.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: And actually, we got a comment about this, which I think was kind of relevant.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: Where is it?
34:53
SPEAKER_01: I didn't know you
34:53
SPEAKER_03: could take a tour of Hitler's bunkers.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: How have I lived here all these years and I couldn't, never took a tour of Hitler's bunker?
34:59
SPEAKER_01: I've been to raves and other bunkers.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Really?
35:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, back in, it's funny.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: You've been to raves?
35:03
SPEAKER_02: Which one?
35:04
SPEAKER_01: There was, there's the bunker at Alexanderplatz.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: Really?
35:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: Where's their bunker at Alexanderplatz?
35:09
SPEAKER_01: There's so many entrances.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: It's just one of those entrances.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: It's the one over by Hausneslerus, Satuan.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: Go down in there.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: There's a bunker in there.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: It's a, it's a Cold Warrior bunker, not a World War II bunker.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: I also would like to go down in the bunker below Tempelhof,
35:24
SPEAKER_01: like where they built submarines or whatever they built down there,
35:27
SPEAKER_01: or missiles, I don't know.
35:30
SPEAKER_01: There's like a big,
35:31
SPEAKER_01: the myth is there was a highway from Tempelhof to Tegel, but that's not true.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: No, so one of our readers, Ursus Arctus, commented on my post about the bunker.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: If Braunau can preserve his effing birthplace,
35:49
SPEAKER_02: surely Berlin can preserve the bunkers and use them to help tell the story that AFD
35:53
SPEAKER_02: and its fellow travelers
35:55
SPEAKER_03: are trying so hard to rewrite.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: That's a lot in there.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: So they have kept, they bought his house, right?
36:03
SPEAKER_02: They bought Hitler's house, like a birthplace, to prevent Nazis.
36:08
SPEAKER_01: Wasn't it a police station?
36:10
SPEAKER_01: Was it?
36:10
SPEAKER_01: I think it was a police station.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: Weird.
36:15
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36:16
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36:17
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36:20
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36:22
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36:23
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36:24
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36:31
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36:33
SPEAKER_02: Andrew, this week my Bear's Knees is a classic.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: It's the W Imbiss with the upside down McDonald's logo on Castagne in LA.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know why it's called W Imbiss?
36:50
SPEAKER_02: No.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Because the guy that used to run, I don't think he's there anymore, was Walt.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Wasn't he Canadian?
36:55
SPEAKER_01: Schmatzwald, those guys.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, anyway, it's still around.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: This is amazing.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: It's sort of a tiki
37:02
SPEAKER_03: vibe in there.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: It's been around forever.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: They've got It's kind of fusion-y, Asian, whatever, but it kind of holds together.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: I went there the other day for lunch.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: They had a thing called a curry in the hurry for 10 euros.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: A bowl chock full of stuff.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: It's just really good.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: You know what I want to try there was that there used to be
37:29
SPEAKER_01: a Durner place two doors down from it and now it's like a fast food Indian place.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: I want to try that out.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: That's pretty good.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: I think it's connected to WMS.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: Ah, okay.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: They're always running back and forth and they have the same tables outside.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: They was like running back and forth borrowing stuff from each other.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: And they are kind of suffering right now because the...
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Because the tram lines are being completely redone.
37:53
SPEAKER_02: So the sidewalks are only like two meters wide.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: So I think they deserve our custom.
38:00
SPEAKER_02: Our custom.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: Morris, the British person.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: Customer.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: Comes from custom.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: I totally.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: Wimbus.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Or as the Germans say, Wimbus.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: It's because Walt from White Drafts, Fast Food, Schmatzwald, that whole clique back in the day.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if he said he might even be a reader.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: I run into them every now and then.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to recommend a cafe in Friedrichshain where I just happened to be this morning.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: Blauabona.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: They like roast their own coffee.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: It's all a bit... Friedrichshain is just kind of grubby.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: I will never...
38:36
SPEAKER_02: So you're recommending a random grubby cafe?
38:39
SPEAKER_03: I like that.
38:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's not... Like I like it.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: Like it kind of feels...
38:41
SPEAKER_01: And their coffee tastes like the coffee in Portland,
38:43
SPEAKER_01: Oregon where I lived for a while.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know how to describe this taste, but it has like this...
38:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how to describe it.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I like that taste of coffee.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: Third wave.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Is it sort of like an anti-lab...
38:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if there's like, I think everything that's, everything's anti-lap.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't think we even have to bring up lap every time we talk about coffee.
39:00
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: It's just, it's like what, it's a classic third wave coffee place.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: What street is it on?
39:08
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I just was looking that up.
39:09
SPEAKER_01: It is on, what do you think it would be?
39:15
SPEAKER_01: Like a block with that block east of Boxy.
39:20
SPEAKER_03: Is it sort of a gentrified kind of place?
39:25
SPEAKER_03: It's not.
39:25
SPEAKER_03: That's what I was trying to say.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: Friedrichstein feels kind of grubby.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: This feels like they just kind of moved in there.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: They put the counter up and they're selling coffee.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: Does it have that sort of Airbnb Instagram look with macrame?
39:35
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: Exactly not.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: Things?
39:39
SPEAKER_01: That I talked about when we were in Paris and we saw those things in Paris
39:40
SPEAKER_01: and we're like, no, we don't like this.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: No, exactly not.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: It's like, it's like just, they opened a cafe in an existing space.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: And then because they were doing well at roasting coffee,
39:50
SPEAKER_01: they had to rent the existing space next door.
39:53
SPEAKER_03: And a flat white is under seven euros?
39:55
SPEAKER_03: I think it was, I didn't even look at the prices actually.
39:57
SPEAKER_03: This is the problem.
39:58
SPEAKER_03: I don't look at when I just want something, I just
39:59
SPEAKER_01: buy it.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: But I don't think it was that expensive.
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SPEAKER_03: I was in an Irish pub two nights ago and a Guinness was
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SPEAKER_02: six euros.
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SPEAKER_01: Every time I want to get upset about beer, I remember that in America, that's like a beer is $9.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Plus tax and tip.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it was $9 even.
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SPEAKER_01: And then you, the idea was it's nine, then you tip a dollar per beer.
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SPEAKER_02: Is it just a dollar per beer?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what I do.
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SPEAKER_01: If I walk up to the bar.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought the tips would have gone up with the prices.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it's not like I live in America now.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't really know what's happening day to day.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm going to America a year from now.
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SPEAKER_03: That's very long planning.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for my mother's 80th birthday.
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SPEAKER_03: You are German.
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SPEAKER_03: Are you going to Santa Fe?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, with my mother and my brother.
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SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jesus indeed.
40:46
SPEAKER_01: You know what's weird?
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SPEAKER_01: There's this guy on Instagram who's posting stuff from Denver in the 80s when I went
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SPEAKER_01: to high school and like the high school stuff from the 80s.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't think it's good for me.
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SPEAKER_01: What does it do to you?
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SPEAKER_03: It just like throws you back to that era, to that time.
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SPEAKER_03: Get nostalgic?
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SPEAKER_01: Your first girlfriend?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm all about sentimentality, but it's like an uncomfortable nostalgic.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know why.
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SPEAKER_02: Were you a jock or a nerd?
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SPEAKER_02: I was a nerd.
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SPEAKER_01: I was actually an athlete.
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SPEAKER_01: I was going to be a professional cyclist.
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SPEAKER_01: I was actually an athlete, but I was a nerd.
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SPEAKER_01: I was also in the theater, so we called ourselves something else, a word we can't use now.
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SPEAKER_02: What character would you be in The Breakfast Club?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I was definitely Anthony.
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SPEAKER_01: We were Anthony Michael Hall.
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SPEAKER_01: That's we.
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SPEAKER_03: The king of the dipshits.
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SPEAKER_03: It's like really going off topic.
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SPEAKER_03: The king of the dipshits, man.
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SPEAKER_01: You?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
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SPEAKER_02: What are you talking about?
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SPEAKER_01: You were Anthony Michael Hall too.
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SPEAKER_01: I guess so.
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SPEAKER_01: Because then you only had the jock and then you had, what's his name?
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SPEAKER_01: The rebel dude.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, there was, were there two jocks?
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SPEAKER_01: Why does Andrew get to get up?
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SPEAKER_01: If Andrew gets up, we'll all get up.
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SPEAKER_01: It'll be anarchic.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can do the whole movie.
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SPEAKER_03: Andrew, thank you for letting me join you at your kitchen table.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Maurice.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll have snacks next week.
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SPEAKER_03: I feel bad now.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, last week I brought Liebkuchen.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought you were going to bring Liebkuchen again today.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: When is your next comedy?
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SPEAKER_01: 27th of October, Downstairs Comedy Club.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'll be out of town, I'm afraid.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: I got a bunch of Germans doing comedy this time.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: In English.
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SPEAKER_03: In English.
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SPEAKER_03: Should be interesting.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, be good.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: Have a good one.
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