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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hello there, thank you for lending us your ears. This
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- 0:19Speaker 1: It's episode number five hundred and eighty nine that puts
- 0:24Speaker 1: us eleven away from six hundi, which would put us
- 0:27Speaker 1: two hundred and eleven away from episode eight hundred, which
- 0:33Speaker 1: ain't happening. This is the Darren Davirees debut episode. Did
- 0:41Speaker 1: I say it right? Thank so?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Think you got it.
- 0:43Speaker 1: We were kind of working through the apostrophe. Do you
- 0:46Speaker 1: put as a Darren Devirees apostrophe after the s debut?
- 0:51Speaker 1: We think it is.
- 0:52Speaker 2: We think it is because it was his debut. Possessive
- 0:54Speaker 2: of the debut.
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- 0:58Speaker 1: not too hard that listen, you can correct us. Three
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- 2:13Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in special thanks to our producer
- 2:21Speaker 1: for this episode. She's in. She's taking control, great great efficiency,
- 2:27Speaker 1: great demeanor, AND's working on her birthday. Mary Margaret Stakham.
- 2:32Speaker 1: A lot of people call her Maggie.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Thank you Maggie. So she comes in on us deep bench.
- 2:37Speaker 2: We just go into the bench, bring out an all star.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Exactly right, thank you, exactly right? All right, So the
- 2:42Speaker 1: focus of this episode is basketball related. We did not
- 2:47Speaker 1: come to you on our normal Sunday because the world
- 2:50Speaker 1: champion Mountaineers obviously had to buy. We will do this program,
- 2:55Speaker 1: talk a little football, I mean just a little bit,
- 2:58Speaker 1: because we're gonna focus on basket ball. And then Thursday
- 3:01Speaker 1: of this week, which would be seven of November, we'll
- 3:05Speaker 1: come in into our standard football preview of West Virginia
- 3:08Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bearcats and yeah, important stuff. So you
- 3:15Speaker 1: got that. And also on Thursday, and I haven't talked
- 3:18Speaker 1: to him about this yet, will you be if you
- 3:20Speaker 1: have some UMass preview notes in there as well?
- 3:23Speaker 2: Man, I will, yep, I will haven't started my deep
- 3:26Speaker 2: dive into them yet, but yeah, we'll do a little
- 3:27Speaker 2: bit of that.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:28Speaker 2: So basically that's a big one, by the way, that
- 3:31Speaker 2: that's one of those swing games. That's an important game there.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I'm anxious to watch this team play against that team.
- 3:37Speaker 1: So as we're in the month of November, November's Thanksgiving, Basically,
- 3:42Speaker 1: what we're telling you is we're about to give you
- 3:44Speaker 1: a cornucopia of information over the next month as both
- 3:48Speaker 1: basketball and football merge together, and we got WV women's
- 3:52Speaker 1: basketball nationally ranked opening up this evening, they've got the
- 3:56Speaker 1: Towsands in town and Mark Kellogg and his team getting
- 4:00Speaker 1: ready to roll. Plus as we record, this is the
- 4:03Speaker 1: night that the WV men's soccer team plays, Marshall. I mean,
- 4:08Speaker 1: just a great national match and if West Virginia can
- 4:14Speaker 1: either win or get a tie soccer, they call that draw.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I didn't know if you knew, but then West Virginia
- 4:24Speaker 1: would have the Sun Belt Conference World championship, saying, be
- 4:28Speaker 1: a big one, be kind of nice.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Some national seating at play as well.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a feeling though it won't be easy
- 4:34Speaker 1: for the for Danny Stratford's team because the last Hornet's
- 4:37Speaker 1: Nest last year Marshall came in, it was fully engaged
- 4:42Speaker 1: Hornet's Nest lined beat them lined up, and it was
- 4:45Speaker 1: spectacular for your mountaineer. So I would think, Marshall, that's
- 4:48Speaker 1: been what do they say sitting in your crawl? Is
- 4:50Speaker 1: that what they say?
- 4:51Speaker 2: Is that the phrase something like that? Yeah, so that's
- 4:54Speaker 2: what makes fun go down get it.
- 4:55Speaker 1: For a year. So now it's like, okay, let's go yeah,
- 4:57Speaker 1: let's go all right. Last night, the Mountaineer basketball team
- 5:01Speaker 1: began a.
- 5:02Speaker 2: New era, speaking of getting it single greatest debut in
- 5:06Speaker 2: the history of any coach in the history of any
- 5:08Speaker 2: sport in the world.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Give you a second on that. Let me think. Yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 1: I mean, in all seriousness, if you were to write
- 5:21Speaker 1: a script and say, okay, Chat GPT, here's my situation,
- 5:26Speaker 1: Chat GPT. The last seventeen months have been an unbelievably
- 5:33Speaker 1: unprecedented turbulent time in the history of West Virginia University basketball,
- 5:37Speaker 1: which included an interim season that basically just had to
- 5:42Speaker 1: be there, and you got through it. And now the
- 5:46Speaker 1: new coach has been hired and you need a new
- 5:51Speaker 1: momentum to begin, and you've got a completely rebuilt roster,
- 5:56Speaker 1: of completely rebuilt staff. Everything is new, Dear chat GP.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Before you got a had one more variable, and the
- 6:02Speaker 2: new head coach has brought his son with him, who was,
- 6:05Speaker 2: by most accounts, the number one transfer available in the portal.
- 6:08Speaker 2: So you've got a new head coach and his son
- 6:10Speaker 2: leading the team here, Okay, go ahead. So that's the
- 6:12Speaker 2: other variable you put in there.
- 6:12Speaker 1: So your other prompted Chad GPT would be please write
- 6:16Speaker 1: a narrative in as favorable terms as possible for West
- 6:21Speaker 1: Virginia in its season opening game against the Colonials of
- 6:25Speaker 1: Robert Morris. Please limit this narrative to less than one
- 6:30Speaker 1: hundred points score and then you just go hit that
- 6:34Speaker 1: return and then it goes The scene at the coliseum
- 6:41Speaker 1: is that the lights go dark as the Mountaineers are
- 6:43Speaker 1: introduced on a rolled out carpet. Lights flash, the game begins,
- 6:50Speaker 1: The highly touted son of the head coach immediately bangs
- 6:55Speaker 1: a deep three. Then seconds later in mid court steel
- 7:00Speaker 1: leads to a dunk boom, and then it just goes
- 7:03Speaker 1: on and it says the opposing team is victimized by
- 7:08Speaker 1: a twenty one to nothing run. And you'd go, like
- 7:11Speaker 1: in the first five minutes, in the first five minutes,
- 7:13Speaker 1: and you go, like, after you print it out, you'd go, now,
- 7:16Speaker 1: I gotta get a revision on this. There's no way
- 7:17Speaker 1: that could ever happen.
- 7:18Speaker 2: It's not believable.
- 7:19Speaker 1: That's not believable. I need to make it a little bit.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Could you write that again and be more real? But wow, yeah,
- 7:26Speaker 1: that was I didn't expect that.
- 7:28Speaker 2: One incredible start. And we'll dive into that as well
- 7:31Speaker 2: as the numbers, there are some fun numbers to look at.
- 7:34Speaker 2: I thought you said it correctly on the broadcast. You
- 7:36Speaker 2: said it was like they were shot out of a cannon.
- 7:38Speaker 2: I compared it to being like sped up in three X.
- 7:41Speaker 2: You know how sometimes people write in and say, you
- 7:44Speaker 2: can't listen to this podcast me in particular, if you
- 7:46Speaker 2: try and go at one point five speed or certainly
- 7:49Speaker 2: not two speed.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I've heard that.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I understand talk fast a lot.
- 7:52Speaker 2: I get it right now, I'm talking faster. You're on
- 7:53Speaker 2: two speed. You're gonna slowed down. That's West Virginia was
- 7:56Speaker 2: playing as if it was on two X speed while
- 7:59Speaker 2: you're listening to a podcast. And I mean that in
- 8:01Speaker 2: a good way. Sometimes you can speed teams up and
- 8:03Speaker 2: it's bad. West Virginia was locked and loaded for the
- 8:06Speaker 2: start and came out of there and that set the
- 8:09Speaker 2: tone in quite frankly, that won the game. It was ballgame.
- 8:12Speaker 2: You started, a long way to go, and a lot
- 8:14Speaker 2: of play and a lot of guys get in. We're
- 8:15Speaker 2: gona talk about a lot of individual performances. That thing
- 8:18Speaker 2: was over five minutes in. Robert Morris had to be
- 8:21Speaker 2: looking at that going, what's happening right now? Mm hmm,
- 8:24Speaker 2: Tony to the point, and we're gonna talk individually about
- 8:26Speaker 2: Sincere Harris and his defensive ability, cam Woods, high profile
- 8:31Speaker 2: transfer from NC State coming into Robert Morris is their
- 8:34Speaker 2: point guard and theoretically their best player, right, they had
- 8:38Speaker 2: to move him off the ball and bring in their
- 8:40Speaker 2: backup point guard DJ Smith within the first three and
- 8:43Speaker 2: a half minutes the first time out, they had to
- 8:45Speaker 2: get another guard in there to try and have two
- 8:48Speaker 2: point guards to try and initiate offense because Sincere Harris
- 8:51Speaker 2: was so disruptive to start on ball, yes, and that
- 8:54Speaker 2: continued all game. I'll give you some numbers to back
- 8:56Speaker 2: that up coming up, but just that right there was
- 8:58Speaker 2: an indication on their first time out they immediately went
- 9:01Speaker 2: to the bench and had to bring in a second
- 9:02Speaker 2: ball handler that could initiate offense. You thought, what's that
- 9:05Speaker 2: thing's over? That thing was over five minutes in.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Yeah, you could make that statement, you really could, and
- 9:11Speaker 1: rarely does that happen. But when it was twenty one
- 9:13Speaker 1: to nothing, like you could sit there and go like,
- 9:16Speaker 1: there's no shot, there's no chance that this team is
- 9:19Speaker 1: coming back just because of the bounce and the intensity
- 9:22Speaker 1: that West Virginia had, like it wasn't going to continue
- 9:24Speaker 1: to be just an absolute domination. But you just said, like,
- 9:28Speaker 1: this is not happening for them. To their credit, to
- 9:32Speaker 1: their credit, they finally got their sea legs. They did
- 9:35Speaker 1: because you know, that thing could have got super stupid,
- 9:38Speaker 1: like if they would have if they would have buckled
- 9:40Speaker 1: at that point, that thing could have been a fifty
- 9:43Speaker 1: to sixty point game.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Correct. I do give them credit because they they did fight,
- 9:47Speaker 2: they didn't lay down, and that was an easy position
- 9:49Speaker 2: to lay down in. But it's also one of those examples,
- 9:52Speaker 2: and I think we say it way more than it
- 9:54Speaker 2: happens like that, like you got to get off to
- 9:56Speaker 2: a fast start. The team's got to come out ready
- 9:58Speaker 2: to go. It's got to get off to a fast start.
- 9:59Speaker 2: That that was the Encyclopedia version for our old school
- 10:03Speaker 2: listeners of that definition when we say you got to
- 10:05Speaker 2: start fast. I've not seen anything like that in a
- 10:08Speaker 2: long time, and it just set the tone right away.
- 10:11Speaker 2: So even when Robert Morris got its legs under it
- 10:14Speaker 2: and West Virginia inevitably came back to the pack and
- 10:17Speaker 2: that game in the second half, at times settled into
- 10:19Speaker 2: what you would expect from a first game of the season.
- 10:22Speaker 2: When West Virginia's throwing out how many guys to West
- 10:24Speaker 2: Virginia played? They play eleven last night, twelve. Every guy
- 10:29Speaker 2: that took the floor last night was playing in his
- 10:31Speaker 2: first regular season game in the coliseum, so you expect
- 10:34Speaker 2: there's to be some disjointedness during your first game. There
- 10:38Speaker 2: was pockets of that, but that start ensured that you
- 10:41Speaker 2: were going to really have to collapse to not win
- 10:43Speaker 2: the game, and West Virginia really just kind of cruised
- 10:45Speaker 2: from there.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Eleven guys.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Eleven guys, so every guy that stepped on the floor
- 10:49Speaker 2: was making his debut in that building, so you would
- 10:51Speaker 2: expect some rustiness or some misshots getting used to the
- 10:54Speaker 2: shooting background, and they just in that opening segment, they
- 10:57Speaker 2: just didn't. They took control of the game and said, Okay,
- 11:00Speaker 2: we're done. We'll continue to play the game out. We've
- 11:02Speaker 2: just won the game in first five minutes.
- 11:04Speaker 1: So about as good of a performance as you could
- 11:08Speaker 1: get considering all of the newness and all of the circumstances. However,
- 11:14Speaker 1: we're going to bust it down and start to take
- 11:16Speaker 1: a look at Okay, it's never as good as it looks.
- 11:20Speaker 1: It's never as bad as it looks. It's always somewhere
- 11:22Speaker 1: in the middle. We're going to get into some of
- 11:24Speaker 1: the numbers here and talk about, Okay, this could be
- 11:28Speaker 1: an issue, this is going to be a strength all season.
- 11:30Speaker 1: That isn't going to happen all the time. This may happen.
- 11:34Speaker 1: We'll get into all those numbers, and as you said,
- 11:36Speaker 1: it sets up a really fun game this coming Friday
- 11:39Speaker 1: night as U mass comes to town. Frank Martin, the
- 11:43Speaker 1: longtime coach what stops at Kansas State South Carolina now
- 11:47Speaker 1: at UMass. He coaches his teams to play extremely physical
- 11:52Speaker 1: and hard. Last year at Springfield, Massachusetts, if you recall,
- 11:57Speaker 1: West Virginia played in that they called the Hall of
- 11:59Speaker 1: Fame Game or something like that. I think it was.
- 12:04Speaker 1: I think Saint Bonnie played before us. It was one
- 12:09Speaker 1: of those Florida teams that was pretty good. Yeah, who's
- 12:13Speaker 1: the guy that got the Indiana guy got the Indiana job,
- 12:16Speaker 1: Michigan job. I'm sorry, Michigan yea yea, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 12:20Speaker 1: So his team plays Saint Bonnie. Anyway, they played the
- 12:24Speaker 1: first it was a two game deal. So West Virginia
- 12:26Speaker 1: played a second game, took a long way to get there,
- 12:29Speaker 1: and they out physicaled West Virginia and hurt Jesse Edwards.
- 12:34Speaker 1: That's how he broke his wrist. And West Virginia was
- 12:37Speaker 1: already playing without Kerk Caresa that night. He was sitting
- 12:40Speaker 1: out his self induced sell my tickets suspension, and West
- 12:47Speaker 1: Virginia got boat raced. So now none of that pertains
- 12:53Speaker 1: to this year's game, with the exception of Ofrey Nevey,
- 12:56Speaker 1: who was just there. None of that pertains to this
- 12:59Speaker 1: year's game. But you better bucket it up because these
- 13:02Speaker 1: guys win by being strong and physical. And now this
- 13:06Speaker 1: will be a different style that West Virginia will show
- 13:09Speaker 1: or not show that they're ready to do.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Ieophysical you're getting a Friday both teams. That's the identity
- 13:14Speaker 2: that they're trying to create. And I thought, that's the thing.
- 13:17Speaker 2: You know how I often say it's a week to
- 13:19Speaker 2: week business and when we talk football, and that's certainly
- 13:21Speaker 2: true in basketball. There will be peaks and valleys throughout
- 13:24Speaker 2: this long season. I thought from a game one the
- 13:27Speaker 2: things that came through from a program standpoint or a
- 13:30Speaker 2: philosophical standpoint that Darren DeVries wants to instill in his
- 13:34Speaker 2: team and his program. Thought you saw that right out
- 13:36Speaker 2: of the gate, the intensity and the defensive pressure and
- 13:39Speaker 2: then not let up. You are not going to get
- 13:41Speaker 2: caught in too many screens without getting over it. You're
- 13:44Speaker 2: gonna fight through, go right through somebody. You're gonna be
- 13:47Speaker 2: physical with the other team on defense, and you're going
- 13:49Speaker 2: to have great, great effort, or you're just coming out.
- 13:51Speaker 2: And you saw West Virginia. Every guy that played, I thought,
- 13:54Speaker 2: did that at a really high level for the majority
- 13:57Speaker 2: of the game. And then number two and we'll get
- 13:58Speaker 2: into some of this offense of stuff that's there, that
- 14:01Speaker 2: motion offense, the options that exist off of each play,
- 14:05Speaker 2: the ability to create open shots. West Virginia had a bunch,
- 14:08Speaker 2: the ability to be selfless and make that extra pass
- 14:11Speaker 2: really on display. So I thought some of those characteristics,
- 14:14Speaker 2: even though those are going to come in and out
- 14:16Speaker 2: during the season, I thought, we're right on display in
- 14:18Speaker 2: game one.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Yeah. What was encouraging is that a lot of what
- 14:22Speaker 1: you saw on the floor last night really resembled what
- 14:25Speaker 1: practice looks like. Sometimes that doesn't happen. Sometimes games start
- 14:29Speaker 1: in people's heads go like whoop right going over screens
- 14:35Speaker 1: is an absolute, non negotiable item in these practices. These guys,
- 14:42Speaker 1: whether they knew it or not, they were going to
- 14:43Speaker 1: go over screens. And when the seat, when practice started,
- 14:46Speaker 1: when they're getting together, you know, I gotta go to
- 14:48Speaker 1: the screen, and they they drill it NonStop because you
- 14:52Speaker 1: better go over the screen otherwise people will hurt you
- 14:54Speaker 1: in this league. Right, So you see these guy's fight
- 14:56Speaker 1: through that. Then ball out of bounce situations, whether be baseline,
- 15:00Speaker 1: whether it be sideline on a bounce, like actual half
- 15:04Speaker 1: court sets that lead to basketball. Right. Hey, here's a
- 15:08Speaker 1: pick and a roll, here's a cut to the basket.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Here's a great entry pass like the stuff you see
- 15:13Speaker 1: in practice sometimes just working you know, shells and then
- 15:17Speaker 1: working against each other. There it is, and it all
- 15:20Speaker 1: validates everything the coaches have been preaching.
- 15:23Speaker 2: No question. And that's going to get especially the offensive
- 15:26Speaker 2: side is going to continue to get better because if
- 15:28Speaker 2: you think about it, Darren has a ton of offensive
- 15:32Speaker 2: sets that he puts in, and that's one of the
- 15:33Speaker 2: things I've been most impressed about is the number of
- 15:36Speaker 2: players that have picked that up so quickly and go
- 15:40Speaker 2: seamlessly through those offensive sets. But that's only going to
- 15:43Speaker 2: get better and more smooth as teams adjust and you
- 15:46Speaker 2: have to go to the second option or the third option.
- 15:48Speaker 2: But I thought last night, for the very first game
- 15:51Speaker 2: in live action that counted, I thought that was tremendous.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be fun about this team is
- 15:59Speaker 1: how it evolves and changes itself. Okay, let's be really
- 16:04Speaker 1: super simple right here and just state the obvious. They're
- 16:08Speaker 1: going to play a lot of teams in the next
- 16:12Speaker 1: three to four months that quote unquote are more talented,
- 16:17Speaker 1: more more talented than them. Okay, more athletic than them.
- 16:21Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. But that is not a sentence to lose.
- 16:27Speaker 1: As we saw with John Beeline through the years, West
- 16:29Speaker 1: Virginia did not always have the most athletic team, but
- 16:33Speaker 1: they played great team basketball and you can beat people
- 16:37Speaker 1: doing that. So now, to me, the fun thing is
- 16:41Speaker 1: going to be watch. Okay, how do you hide your deficiencies?
- 16:44Speaker 1: How do you make your deficiencies a strength that the
- 16:50Speaker 1: other team has to deal with? Obviously, you know the
- 16:54Speaker 1: first one that just screams out at you is Amani
- 16:56Speaker 1: Hansbury as a five man being able to step out
- 17:00Speaker 1: out and say, okay, I mean, I'm gonna make these
- 17:02Speaker 1: shots here. Can they get two? Can they get two?
- 17:06Speaker 1: Can they get two threes out of him a game? Realistically,
- 17:08Speaker 1: if you can get two threes out of him on
- 17:10Speaker 1: average a game, it's going to force defenses to do
- 17:13Speaker 1: things that they may not be more comfortable. As a result,
- 17:16Speaker 1: it opens up the middle of the floor, allows for cuts.
- 17:18Speaker 1: You can do other things off of that. So how
- 17:20Speaker 1: do you play this cat and mouse game? That's gonna
- 17:22Speaker 1: be the biggest challenge for this coaching staff. Is in
- 17:25Speaker 1: everything in sports is smoking mirror, right, I fake, I gotta,
- 17:28Speaker 1: I gotta make the strength. That's coaching. And so to me,
- 17:31Speaker 1: that's gonna be the fun thing. May we just saw Gonzaga,
- 17:34Speaker 1: who West Virginia will see soon, maybe sooner, sooner than
- 17:38Speaker 1: you want. That was a recipe for disaster last night.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Baylor goes up there, right, West Virginia did the same.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Baylor's a legit national title content.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Top ten team. Yes, right, the same thing happened to
- 17:52Speaker 1: West Virginia. You remember, Gonzaga beat us by two hundred
- 17:55Speaker 1: and seven points, knocked us out of the NCAA tournament
- 17:58Speaker 1: up in Pittsburgh. And when okay, okay, guess what revenge
- 18:01Speaker 1: game we're gonna go up there start the season. I
- 18:04Speaker 1: remember it like yesterday, you go into Spokane, had a
- 18:08Speaker 1: light snow falling that day day of the game, had
- 18:11Speaker 1: the bing Crosby Theater there, walking downtown, a little spoke
- 18:14Speaker 1: Caan's very nice, nice little place. Then I went into
- 18:17Speaker 1: that gym that'd be the Kennel. Yeah, kind of like
- 18:20Speaker 1: Morgantown High went like it is ain't good. The people
- 18:24Speaker 1: in there tremendous support, like crazy support, Like the whole
- 18:31Speaker 1: place was a human student section. And they'll beat you
- 18:36Speaker 1: to death. That's how their fans are. Man and that's
- 18:39Speaker 1: that's a setup. And Baylor will it Still stunned me,
- 18:42Speaker 1: I thought, Baylor, you know they're not gonna win there.
- 18:44Speaker 1: But I thought six eight six five six seven points
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- 19:49Speaker 1: I mean? How'd your numbers go? I know, you always
- 19:51Speaker 1: say that they'll refine themselves after a lot of games,
- 19:54Speaker 1: like would you would you notice here? They will?
- 19:56Speaker 2: And it's it's always it's more fun to do numbers
- 19:59Speaker 2: after wins. Of of course there's a lot more to
- 20:01Speaker 2: digest and pull up, and so I think there's some
- 20:03Speaker 2: numbers you'll find interesting. And again we'll give the standard
- 20:05Speaker 2: disclaimer here it's one game, small sample size. So yeah,
- 20:09Speaker 2: especially in basketball, these will normalize. They'll normalize more quickly
- 20:12Speaker 2: than football because the volume of games. But I think
- 20:14Speaker 2: I find some of these interesting. So your stuff here.
- 20:16Speaker 1: So you're saying you're ready to do this, let's hit it, dude,
- 20:19Speaker 1: So I check the numbers.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll just go right to the numbers.
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- 21:47Speaker 2: So we talked about that first half, those first five minutes,
- 21:49Speaker 2: in particular Western and puts up forty six points in
- 21:51Speaker 2: the first half, so you're on pace for ninety two
- 21:54Speaker 2: outstanding if you can get that each night. The second
- 21:57Speaker 2: half where it's settled in more to that game that
- 21:59Speaker 2: we talked about where was not quite as efficient, you
- 22:02Speaker 2: realize you still scored forty one points and shot fifty
- 22:04Speaker 2: seven percent from the field. That's surprised, you.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Can, I stop you there, Sure, I think you're right.
- 22:09Speaker 1: And while it was happening like you're going like West Virginia,
- 22:14Speaker 1: they're not playing well anymore. But what that was was
- 22:17Speaker 1: a mirage. It was because they played a Disney movie
- 22:23Speaker 1: in the first half. What was that basketball movie with
- 22:26Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, the cartoon space Jam. Yeah, so basically West
- 22:30Speaker 1: Virginia went space Jam on Robert Morris in the first half,
- 22:35Speaker 1: and then when it just turned into like just a
- 22:37Speaker 1: regular we just outscored you by eight and a second half,
- 22:39Speaker 1: you went like, well, I wasn't that good. They still
- 22:41Speaker 1: shot over fifty percent in both halves.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Scored forty one. I mean, you take that and a half,
- 22:45Speaker 2: you take fifty seven percent, and you take plus eight
- 22:47Speaker 2: in the second half, you take all of those, right,
- 22:49Speaker 2: And that was right on what the line was. The
- 22:51Speaker 2: line was started at sixteen, went to eighteen. So yeah,
- 22:53Speaker 2: that that surprised me, as I dug into because I'm
- 22:56Speaker 2: with you as we were watching it, I didn't feel
- 22:58Speaker 2: they were having the half like that. I think you're
- 23:00Speaker 2: exactly right how you describe it, space jam. Let's do
- 23:03Speaker 2: some overall offensive team offensive numbers. Then we'll dive into
- 23:05Speaker 2: a couple performances here. First of all, West Virginia, you
- 23:09Speaker 2: know how I like doing this. Spots on the floor
- 23:11Speaker 2: that were popular and effective for West Virginia. West Virginia
- 23:15Speaker 2: took eighteen percent of its shots from the right wing three. Okay,
- 23:20Speaker 2: here's why that's significant. That was the second most popular zone,
- 23:24Speaker 2: behind only the twenty five percent of shots that were
- 23:27Speaker 2: taken at the rim. Okay, you don't always see that.
- 23:32Speaker 2: You don't always see this happening. West Virginia took eighteen
- 23:35Speaker 2: percent of its shots from the right wing three and
- 23:37Speaker 2: made forty six percent. So what you don't always see
- 23:40Speaker 2: is a high frequency zone matching with a high percentage
- 23:45Speaker 2: of made shots. You start doing that stuff, you're really cooking.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Although I do have to question one number. I think
- 23:52Speaker 2: it missed on Tucker three hitting from the left wing three,
- 23:55Speaker 2: which is where he started the game from. So I
- 23:57Speaker 2: don't know where they clocked that. I've got to go
- 23:59Speaker 2: back and look at their play play. They might count
- 24:01Speaker 2: that as baseline, but it was clearly left.
- 24:03Speaker 1: Wing straight down to telemetry.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Just an aside, but the fact that it matched up
- 24:08Speaker 2: well with it. So they were taking the majority of
- 24:11Speaker 2: their shots from three from a spot they were also hitting,
- 24:14Speaker 2: so that was that was good. That matched up nicely.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Assist rate. You'll remember we talked about this a lot
- 24:20Speaker 2: last year. West Virginia needed to get to sixty percent
- 24:23Speaker 2: assist rate. Number of assists you have per baskets made.
- 24:26Speaker 2: When West Virginia hit sixty percent last year, it got
- 24:28Speaker 2: its wins. When it fell short of that, it did not.
- 24:32Speaker 2: So that's just a number I've tracked for the last
- 24:34Speaker 2: couple of years. I find this interesting. West Virginia was
- 24:36Speaker 2: at a forty eight percent assist rate last night. Okay,
- 24:40Speaker 2: forty eight percent. So I went back and looked at
- 24:43Speaker 2: Darren's Drake teams over the last four years. Their assist
- 24:47Speaker 2: rates for the season were, I'm working backwards from last
- 24:51Speaker 2: year to four years back fifty six percent, fifty percent,
- 24:55Speaker 2: forty three percent, forty six percent. By the way, his
- 24:59Speaker 2: Drake teams won one hundred and six games in those
- 25:01Speaker 2: four years, so that kind of fell right in the
- 25:04Speaker 2: range of what his teams usually do. Again, you're gonna
- 25:07Speaker 2: get some transition buckets, You're gonna get some buckets off
- 25:11Speaker 2: of screens that aren't necessarily assist right guys dribbling off screen.
- 25:14Speaker 2: So the number might not have to get to sixty
- 25:16Speaker 2: as evidenced by his past teams. But last night, so
- 25:20Speaker 2: we talked about did West Virginia play like he wants
- 25:22Speaker 2: you to play? It was right in that zone. Forty
- 25:24Speaker 2: eight percent of assistrate. How about their half court wester
- 25:28Speaker 2: Rings half court efficiency measured by its points per possession.
- 25:32Speaker 2: You know, I quote that number a lot. I'd like
- 25:34Speaker 2: to look at that.
- 25:34Speaker 1: You know what, if you had a tattoo, I bet
- 25:37Speaker 1: you're heavy pppp per possession.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Talk speaks to your efficiency though, right, It gives you,
- 25:42Speaker 2: It normalizes shots taken, shooting percentage, all that stuff. Westerrdinia
- 25:46Speaker 2: was one point one five just in the half court.
- 25:50Speaker 2: It was higher than that overall, offensively, closer to one
- 25:52Speaker 2: point three, but one point one five in half court.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Last year, if you were the national leader in this
- 26:00Speaker 2: it was one point h nine. Now I know you won't.
- 26:03Speaker 2: You can't pick that up and move it across thirty
- 26:04Speaker 2: some games. But that tells you how ultra efficient West
- 26:07Speaker 2: Virginia was last night, specifically in the half court. Put
- 26:10Speaker 2: up a number that, if it was by itself, would
- 26:12Speaker 2: lead the country. We said last night, Tony, watch West
- 26:16Speaker 2: Virginia's teams this season coming out of timeouts atos as
- 26:19Speaker 2: they're referred after timeouts. West Virginia last night one point
- 26:23Speaker 2: six points per possession coming out of timeouts, which, by
- 26:28Speaker 2: the way, wester Ring is fourth nationally in that category.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Now after one game, but they're very good. They get
- 26:33Speaker 2: a lot of good looks coming out of timeouts with
- 26:36Speaker 2: multiple options. So if you're watching the game, just watch
- 26:39Speaker 2: the different movement that happens there in the plays that
- 26:42Speaker 2: come out of after timeouts.
- 26:43Speaker 1: To use a soccer analogy, that would be analogous to
- 26:46Speaker 1: a direct kick right or a corner. Those are set
- 26:50Speaker 1: plays that you don't you're oftentimes not able to get
- 26:54Speaker 1: into in flow of play for various reasons. But these
- 26:56Speaker 1: are absolute static bodies. Okay, here's our play, that's what
- 27:02Speaker 1: we're running. That's a good number. Yeah, you just think
- 27:04Speaker 1: about the goes. Why is that important? So you're not
- 27:07Speaker 1: banging your head on the floor all game to have
- 27:10Speaker 1: to say, the only way we're going to score is
- 27:11Speaker 1: in half court sets. Take transition points, right, and take
- 27:16Speaker 1: those sets, add those points up in the course of
- 27:18Speaker 1: a game. If you're really good at those things, you
- 27:22Speaker 1: don't have to be so stressed that you're going to
- 27:24Speaker 1: have to score all the time in the half court.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and those are the things where if you if
- 27:27Speaker 2: you have a timeout where he can draw something up
- 27:29Speaker 2: and you can go to a play, you really like
- 27:31Speaker 2: you're in essence stealing some possessions there and becoming ultra efficient.
- 27:34Speaker 2: You were last night in that area, so watch watch
- 27:37Speaker 2: after timeouts all season?
- 27:38Speaker 1: Now does that stat include did they counted on that
- 27:42Speaker 1: the stat sheet machine you worked there on that one
- 27:45Speaker 1: underneath the basket in the first half, or Toby o'cannie
- 27:50Speaker 1: kind of kind of came in that Now would that
- 27:53Speaker 1: would that be considered a good possession?
- 27:55Speaker 2: Talk about space jam. I think his knee was above
- 27:59Speaker 2: the rim.
- 28:00Speaker 1: He was up. You said it right. He cocked his
- 28:03Speaker 1: arm because he was too high. A little delay, Yeah,
- 28:06Speaker 1: you had to like hold it back. He's still gotta
- 28:08Speaker 1: come down farther before I can put this thing through.
- 28:10Speaker 2: We'll talk about a bunch of different individual guys that
- 28:13Speaker 2: you're on him for just a second. Yeah, I think
- 28:14Speaker 2: you saw what he can provide you last night in
- 28:17Speaker 2: a couple different areas. Won that athleticism right, just the
- 28:20Speaker 2: flat explosion up the catch. Defensively, he had some really
- 28:24Speaker 2: good possessions. Gave you eleven points in there, right, your
- 28:26Speaker 2: third or fourth leading scorer. So he's an interesting guy.
- 28:30Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a lot about Tobyo Cohn.
- 28:31Speaker 1: You know what I think about him. Small sample size
- 28:34Speaker 1: forty minutes. Well, actually we've seen him play twice now
- 28:37Speaker 1: with the Charleston game. I think a very large part
- 28:44Speaker 1: of your success this season will be determined by what
- 28:46Speaker 1: kind of season he had. He can't just be a guy.
- 28:50Speaker 1: He can't be just like we can't be talking about
- 28:52Speaker 1: him dunking it on an inbounds play against Robert Morris
- 28:56Speaker 1: in three weeks. He has to be every single day,
- 29:00Speaker 1: every night. He needs to be a consistent guy that
- 29:04Speaker 1: is just gonna go in there and just battle and
- 29:06Speaker 1: battle and come out of there with five to seven
- 29:09Speaker 1: rebounds in like eight to twelve points. But it has
- 29:12Speaker 1: to be like permanent. You can't have like two rebounds.
- 29:18Speaker 1: If you do, you're gonna get You're gonna get ding
- 29:20Speaker 1: donged on the boarder.
- 29:21Speaker 2: That's one you're gonna ask him to hit a three
- 29:23Speaker 2: now and then, because he's really good at getting to
- 29:25Speaker 2: the basket. But when we get into big twelve play
- 29:27Speaker 2: and the body types match him a little bit more,
- 29:29Speaker 2: he's gonna find himself with some open jump shots. He's
- 29:31Speaker 2: got to hit him. And then his biggest value is
- 29:33Speaker 2: gonna come on the defensive end, and we're gonna get
- 29:35Speaker 2: into sincere Harrison just a minute. But if you have
- 29:37Speaker 2: a guy that can lock up somebody in the back court,
- 29:39Speaker 2: and Toby has the ability to lock up a wing,
- 29:42Speaker 2: which you're gonna see every night in this league, a
- 29:44Speaker 2: wing that's a pro right, either overseas or NBA. And
- 29:48Speaker 2: if you have the ability to guard him consistently every night,
- 29:51Speaker 2: now this team has a shot to knock some people off.
- 29:53Speaker 2: I'm with you, Toby's gonna be super important. All right,
- 29:56Speaker 2: One last offensive stat team wise, then we'll get in
- 29:58Speaker 2: some individual performances offense before we moved to the defense.
- 30:02Speaker 2: I talk a lot of on guarded and guarded catch
- 30:05Speaker 2: and shoot threes, right, It's a number we went through
- 30:07Speaker 2: last year. West Virginia left too many people open, gave
- 30:11Speaker 2: up a lot of unguarded threes, and conversely, on the
- 30:13Speaker 2: offensive end, had to take a ton of guarded threes
- 30:17Speaker 2: last night. And this speaks to that extra pass ability
- 30:20Speaker 2: that West Virginia had last night. Six of eleven on
- 30:23Speaker 2: on guarded catch and threes. So you got eleven of them,
- 30:26Speaker 2: first of all, and then you hit fifty five percent
- 30:28Speaker 2: of those from three. That's a massive number. And again
- 30:31Speaker 2: I don't maybe you don't match out the rest of
- 30:33Speaker 2: the season. That's pretty incredible. But that's ballgame right there.
- 30:37Speaker 2: You get open shots and stick them at that rate
- 30:40Speaker 2: at the college level, man, that is super impressive. Jonathan Powell,
- 30:43Speaker 2: the freshman two of two on those exact situations left
- 30:46Speaker 2: him open feet, set, extra pass, bang. It massive, massive
- 30:51Speaker 2: thing to watch all year.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, maybe because they play
- 30:56Speaker 1: more in AAU now, but freshmen don't seemed to be
- 31:00Speaker 1: like freshmen used to be. Freshmen used to go on
- 31:04Speaker 1: the floor and unless they were an extremely good player
- 31:10Speaker 1: that was eventually going to be a pro. Most freshmen
- 31:14Speaker 1: that it was almost like you could see the discomfort
- 31:18Speaker 1: when they would go into a game. You could see
- 31:19Speaker 1: their mind working like I'm tense, I'm nervous. I just
- 31:23Speaker 1: if it comes to my hands, I'm getting rid of
- 31:25Speaker 1: it real quick. I don't because like completely different from
- 31:31Speaker 1: both Powell and Tenor last night.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Both were tremendous.
- 31:35Speaker 1: If you watch Powell and Tenor and someone had never
- 31:37Speaker 1: seen them play, didn't have a roster, you'd say, yeah,
- 31:40Speaker 1: the Powell kids a junior, yeah, and the Tenor kid
- 31:43Speaker 1: he prepped and then this is his third year, he's
- 31:46Speaker 1: he's a he's thirty second year. They didn't they didn't
- 31:50Speaker 1: even wink.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Totally agree.
- 31:53Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know what that is,
- 31:56Speaker 1: but I just think that's really really a positive. Totally Now, again,
- 32:01Speaker 1: you go to the Bahamas here in a couple of weeks,
- 32:05Speaker 1: and these cats are going to see something at a
- 32:07Speaker 1: different level. Sure, but it's a great start when you're
- 32:12Speaker 1: able to be able to go out there and stop.
- 32:15Speaker 1: He's already playing, is what I'm saying. I guess that
- 32:16Speaker 1: the easiest way I'm saying is this, he's already playing,
- 32:20Speaker 1: and he's not.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Thinking significant minutes two importance for both of them. And
- 32:24Speaker 2: you know the other thing that's impressed me and you
- 32:26Speaker 2: and I have talked about this at all the practices
- 32:28Speaker 2: we've been to with both of those guys. It's also
- 32:31Speaker 2: highly unusual for elite scores from the high school level
- 32:36Speaker 2: to come into a major college program and understand the
- 32:39Speaker 2: effort that's required and the defensive intensity it's required. And again,
- 32:43Speaker 2: that's what this program's about under Darren, and those two
- 32:46Speaker 2: dudes have got it right away. There isn't a moment
- 32:49Speaker 2: where Jonathan pal just says, listen, I scored thirty a
- 32:51Speaker 2: game and I go give me the ball. I'm not
- 32:53Speaker 2: playing defense. We talk about defense. I'm here to He
- 32:55Speaker 2: does not do that a lick, and kJ quite frankly
- 32:58Speaker 2: is coming in for his defense and went last night
- 33:01Speaker 2: hit those two threes, and then that was just a
- 33:04Speaker 2: really neat offensive set with him down in front of
- 33:06Speaker 2: the West Virginia bench, right in front of us, where
- 33:08Speaker 2: they ran a cutter through, which is your first option
- 33:11Speaker 2: to hit the cutter. It wasn't there. So he continues
- 33:13Speaker 2: on to the other side and he pulls the defense
- 33:15Speaker 2: with him, and now all of a sudden, Kj's alone
- 33:18Speaker 2: in an isolation with no one in front of him.
- 33:20Speaker 2: That dude's hard to guard, right, He's about as quick
- 33:22Speaker 2: as you're going to see, goes right at the basket
- 33:24Speaker 2: and gets a layup. So there's a lot of performances
- 33:26Speaker 2: to talk about coming out last night. The two freshmen
- 33:28Speaker 2: were both super impressive.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Yeah' y encouraged.
- 33:30Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going. Speaking of impressive, we've talked
- 33:34Speaker 2: about him a lot. But does it help and our
- 33:37Speaker 2: things smooth and does it run well? When Tucker Devrez
- 33:40Speaker 2: is on the floor.
- 33:40Speaker 1: He's beneficial to be on the court. Oh yeah, he's beneficial.
- 33:43Speaker 2: He I mean, really, it's taking an assistant coach and
- 33:46Speaker 2: putting him out on the floor. If you watch, he'd
- 33:49Speaker 2: such great command of this system, such great command of
- 33:52Speaker 2: things you're looking for. And it's even little things, Tony.
- 33:55Speaker 2: It's not the obvious making a shot when he's wide open.
- 33:57Speaker 2: It's the extra pass. It's the ability to pass a
- 34:00Speaker 2: completely cross court and find an open guy. It's other
- 34:03Speaker 2: things that Darren'll talk a lot about. When you have
- 34:06Speaker 2: the ball, somebody get into the space. Don't just pass
- 34:09Speaker 2: the ball lazily around the outside. Someone take it and
- 34:12Speaker 2: get into space. And Tucker just instinctively, if that offense
- 34:15Speaker 2: is a little bit slow or the easy shot hasn't come,
- 34:18Speaker 2: he forces the action and gets in there and makes
- 34:22Speaker 2: makes defenders move, which then creates space. That that's really
- 34:26Speaker 2: hard to teach. That's an instinctive guy that's played a
- 34:29Speaker 2: lot of ball and has played a lot of ball
- 34:30Speaker 2: in this system and knows exactly what to do to
- 34:32Speaker 2: keep the offense moving.
- 34:34Speaker 1: So we've struggled through the years, as you well know,
- 34:37Speaker 1: since joining the Big Twelve about these time zones, right
- 34:41Speaker 1: like East Coast, West Coast said today we had more
- 34:45Speaker 1: multi time zone passes on that floor last night, like
- 34:51Speaker 1: they did not keep it. Like, hey, from me to you,
- 34:54Speaker 1: we're still in the stations station they were going. They
- 34:56Speaker 1: were going Eastern time zone to Pacific time with regularity.
- 35:01Speaker 1: And guess what the old adage is true. The ball
- 35:05Speaker 1: moves faster than anyone's feet can possibly move. And when
- 35:09Speaker 1: we saw more swing passes, more cross court passes, and
- 35:13Speaker 1: you see, they're absolutely magical for an offense because it
- 35:19Speaker 1: forces that defense to move and shift. And if you
- 35:21Speaker 1: work the ball well, you get gold. That's why you
- 35:24Speaker 1: got eleven open three.
- 35:28Speaker 2: And Tucker wasn't doing one. Hansbury can pass out of
- 35:31Speaker 2: that extremely well. But Tucker, Tucker's ability to do things
- 35:34Speaker 2: other than just shoot are going to be so valuable
- 35:37Speaker 2: moving forward. He's a heck of a basketball player, but
- 35:39Speaker 2: he's going to have to do that, especially in Big
- 35:40Speaker 2: twelve play, because every scouting report is going to say,
- 35:43Speaker 2: all right, we got to eliminate that guy. And again
- 35:45Speaker 2: you're going to face bodies that have the athleticism to
- 35:47Speaker 2: match up. So Tucker's ability to do other things is important.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Here's a number to back this up. His net rating
- 35:54Speaker 2: from last night. So that's the net rating is the
- 35:57Speaker 2: team's point differential from point scored per one hundred possessions
- 36:01Speaker 2: when you're on the floor to points given up per
- 36:04Speaker 2: hundred possessions when you're on the floor. So his net
- 36:07Speaker 2: rating was an unbelievably massive plus fifty eight point six
- 36:11Speaker 2: points per one hundred possessions last night. We may not
- 36:16Speaker 2: see another number like that all season. It was just
- 36:19Speaker 2: through the roof. Javon Small had an unbelievable one and
- 36:23Speaker 2: it was thirty four like and it got dwarfed because
- 36:26Speaker 2: Tucker's was so unbelievable. So those two guys were really valuable.
- 36:30Speaker 2: And I think this is one of those times I
- 36:32Speaker 2: say this a bunch. Those are simply just numbers to
- 36:35Speaker 2: back up what your eyes saw when Tucker and javan
- 36:37Speaker 2: are out there and they're playing. That's really skilled basketball
- 36:40Speaker 2: players right there. So that's pretty impressive.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. Breakdown.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Hold on, that's only offense.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Oh, I know we're going to defense.
- 36:48Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not done.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Well, I was concerned about Sincere Harris last night. Why
- 36:54Speaker 1: are you concerned halftime? I thought magistrate come down out
- 36:59Speaker 1: of the stands issue a restraining order? Is that? Who
- 37:01Speaker 1: does that? Because those poor buddies. Huh he was in
- 37:06Speaker 1: he was in their stuff, and uh, I mean really
- 37:09Speaker 1: it was. It was similar to what Javon Carter used
- 37:12Speaker 1: to do that you could just see it on the
- 37:14Speaker 1: countenance of the opposing player he was. They were just
- 37:17Speaker 1: like like, my boy woulds right?
- 37:20Speaker 2: He wont cam Woods? Cam Woods transfer from enc State.
- 37:23Speaker 1: He wanted like, who is he go away? So I
- 37:27Speaker 1: thought restraining order at halftime was going to come down for.
- 37:30Speaker 2: I don't disagree. And that's the first note I put
- 37:32Speaker 2: underneath that. And we'll we'll say this in a bunch
- 37:34Speaker 2: of games. I mean, you put you put Harris on
- 37:37Speaker 2: somebody that the team's best back court player or point
- 37:40Speaker 2: guard and just say go right, he decides to pick
- 37:44Speaker 2: him up ninety two of the ninety four feet and
- 37:46Speaker 2: just takes you. He moves laterally extremely well, and his
- 37:50Speaker 2: strength to be able to hold you off when the
- 37:52Speaker 2: game's physical, if they're letting you play, which they did
- 37:55Speaker 2: last night, that's tough to get by. And then, oh,
- 37:57Speaker 2: by the way, on the rare case, when you do
- 38:00Speaker 2: get by him, or he does get hung up in
- 38:02Speaker 2: a screen a little bit, and you saw it last night,
- 38:04Speaker 2: then he's sagabaw Kanate had three blocks last night because
- 38:08Speaker 2: his length now comes into play even if he's trailing
- 38:11Speaker 2: you by a step. Poort cam Woods got around him
- 38:12Speaker 2: a couple of times and thought, oh, I'm finally free.
- 38:14Speaker 2: I see the basket and here comes Harris from behind
- 38:17Speaker 2: with a block. He is he is a really skilled defender.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Well that was I mean, we talked with Chester Frasier,
- 38:22Speaker 1: the Mountaineer assistant head coach, last week, and he told
- 38:25Speaker 1: us so sincere Harris' nickname is Buck and so we
- 38:29Speaker 1: found out that name. The name was given to him
- 38:31Speaker 1: at a very early age because why because his family
- 38:36Speaker 1: thought he was buck Wild. So you got to consider
- 38:40Speaker 1: like a little kid just like just Mayhem, right, Havoc,
- 38:43Speaker 1: like that insurance salesman, right, that guy that's always in Mayhem. Like,
- 38:47Speaker 1: that's what this kid was as a little kid, and
- 38:49Speaker 1: it hasn't changed. He now he can chill, but on
- 38:52Speaker 1: the floor he's buck Wild.
- 38:54Speaker 2: He's also got that Javon Press Virginia mentality of he
- 38:59Speaker 2: loves defense. He so I thought two things. One his
- 39:02Speaker 2: defense was to the riff. I'm gonna give a couple
- 39:03Speaker 2: numbers here to back that up too. His defense was elite.
- 39:06Speaker 2: But then offensively he really played within himself as well, right,
- 39:09Speaker 2: didn't force any shots, didn't take any threes that he
- 39:12Speaker 2: wasn't ready to hit. I mean just I thought he
- 39:14Speaker 2: played a really good game start to finish.
- 39:16Speaker 1: Sure he controlled himself on offense.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was tremendous. So you mentioned the
- 39:20Speaker 2: Cam Woods, and we talked in the open about how
- 39:23Speaker 2: Andy Toole had to make a switch right away and
- 39:25Speaker 2: get DJ Smith in there to help run that offense
- 39:28Speaker 2: with two point guards. How about those two Smith and
- 39:30Speaker 2: Woods combined six of twenty seven from the floor, two
- 39:35Speaker 2: of twelve from three.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Yeah, that's game over.
- 39:39Speaker 2: The other part of that that Harris brings and this
- 39:42Speaker 2: team does defensively, How many times did Robert Morris not
- 39:46Speaker 2: get into its offense until there were eighteen to twenty
- 39:49Speaker 2: seconds on the shot clock. I mean they were burning
- 39:51Speaker 2: ten to twelve seconds just working to get it up
- 39:54Speaker 2: to be on the three point line. So even when
- 39:56Speaker 2: they started it, they were pushed out so far. So
- 39:58Speaker 2: I just thought you totally had them taken out of
- 40:02Speaker 2: what they wanted to do offensively. Here's one more stat
- 40:04Speaker 2: on the point guard for them. So Woods had the
- 40:07Speaker 2: highest usage rate on the team. So the percentage of
- 40:10Speaker 2: team plays that uses a particular player. Woods was one,
- 40:14Speaker 2: Smith was three, but less than one percent from being two.
- 40:17Speaker 2: So basically those were your two most used guys offensively,
- 40:21Speaker 2: they were one and two in shot percentage for Robert Morris.
- 40:24Speaker 2: So you take those guys out, there was nowhere for
- 40:27Speaker 2: Robert Morris to go to get consistent buckets. So that
- 40:30Speaker 2: backcourt the other part of that defense. Taking that backcourt out,
- 40:33Speaker 2: it was it was Harris to begin but man kJ
- 40:36Speaker 2: Tenner came in there and was a menace to those
- 40:38Speaker 2: guys and o'connie would switch off on a like. Those
- 40:41Speaker 2: guys had to get back on the bus and go
- 40:42Speaker 2: are you kidding me? I mean there was one guy
- 40:44Speaker 2: that let them breathe last night and that was it.
- 40:46Speaker 2: That's where the game was won right there. Yeah, in
- 40:48Speaker 2: my opinion.
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- 41:44Speaker 2: One other individual defensive performance and a couple last stats
- 41:47Speaker 2: will wrap up this part of the program. Tucker is
- 41:51Speaker 2: really sneaky good defensively as well. Right, you talk so
- 41:54Speaker 2: much about his offense. We've talked about his offense. He's
- 41:56Speaker 2: really good defensively, and I get watching all off the
- 42:00Speaker 2: ball defenders is kind of like trying to watch the
- 42:03Speaker 2: offensive line, like you just have a tendency to follow
- 42:05Speaker 2: the ball. But if you watch Tucker off the ball again,
- 42:09Speaker 2: the IQ comes through. He's super good at lying in
- 42:12Speaker 2: wait and then jumping the passing route, and he's really
- 42:15Speaker 2: good with quick, sneaky hands to get them in there
- 42:18Speaker 2: and knock it away. Even if he doesn't get the steal,
- 42:20Speaker 2: he leads to a lot of pokes that end up
- 42:22Speaker 2: with somebody else going the other way. So Tucker very
- 42:25Speaker 2: good and maybe a little surprising to people because he's
- 42:27Speaker 2: so good offensively, he was really good. All right, let's
- 42:29Speaker 2: go back to ketch and shoots for our last stat.
- 42:31Speaker 2: You ready for this last stat just mentioned West Virginia
- 42:34Speaker 2: last year was near the bottom of the country or top,
- 42:37Speaker 2: however you want to look at it. In the most
- 42:40Speaker 2: unguarded ketch and shoots defensively last night, thirteen thirteen catch
- 42:47Speaker 2: and shoot jump shots for Robert Morris on the game,
- 42:49Speaker 2: thirteen total. All of them came from three All were guarded. Wow,
- 42:56Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Thirteen to fifteen. I'm sorry. Fifteen overall, thirteen
- 42:59Speaker 2: of the fifteen were guarded. Two of thirteen total on
- 43:04Speaker 2: those fifteen jumps us, thirteen of the fifteen were guarded.
- 43:09Speaker 1: You think those nine second runs in practice work pretty good?
- 43:12Speaker 2: You think team defense message got through with the nines
- 43:15Speaker 2: helping nine nine.
- 43:16Speaker 1: We talked about nine before on the show, Right, nine
- 43:19Speaker 1: nine nine. They just in practice, That's what it is.
- 43:22Speaker 1: You've got no options go for a ball fake, go
- 43:24Speaker 1: for a ball fake, get on the line. Run.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Didn't see it last night. Just really good. So that
- 43:28Speaker 2: individual stopper defense mentality from a couple guys. If they're
- 43:33Speaker 2: giving you that a Harris ten are out front, Toby,
- 43:35Speaker 2: they're giving you that, then that allows every Everybody got
- 43:38Speaker 2: all excited there.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Defensive pressure on the microphone.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Just tremendous job team defense wise. That number there, I mean, heck,
- 43:45Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll be able to match out
- 43:46Speaker 2: the rest of you either. That's an incredible number. Just
- 43:48Speaker 2: two open unguarded threes last night.
- 43:52Speaker 1: Well, with all of what we just said there, as
- 43:55Speaker 1: you well know, Final four tickets are now being printed. Now,
- 43:58Speaker 1: the reality of it is this, like, obviously there are
- 44:02Speaker 1: deficiencies on this team. There's deficiencies on every team in
- 44:05Speaker 1: the country, and there's going to be I think some
- 44:07Speaker 1: long nights for this Mountaineer team this season because of
- 44:11Speaker 1: the level of competition that you're going to play. So
- 44:14Speaker 1: I'll go back to the old adage, it's not as
- 44:16Speaker 1: good as it looks, it's not as bad as it looks.
- 44:18Speaker 1: It's somewhere in the middle. The question becomes where is
- 44:21Speaker 1: the middle? But there will be some hard nights. There'll
- 44:24Speaker 1: be some hard games this season where things don't go well,
- 44:28Speaker 1: but it'll all be a process, and which you hope
- 44:30Speaker 1: is that the togetherness, the communication stays and you just
- 44:36Speaker 1: kind of get through it and you can get better
- 44:39Speaker 1: and better and better, which I think is what will happen.
- 44:42Speaker 1: But there's gonna be there're gonna be some significant tests
- 44:46Speaker 1: on this team during the season.
- 44:48Speaker 2: Yeah, and last night was we've seen this formula before,
- 44:51Speaker 2: the concern and it's been a concern. We've talked about
- 44:54Speaker 2: the concern. Darren's talked about the concern publicly. It's on
- 44:58Speaker 2: the glass, right, It's your lack of of interior size
- 45:02Speaker 2: and that's going to have to continue to be a
- 45:04Speaker 2: work in progress. His teams at Drake were very good
- 45:06Speaker 2: defensive rebounding teams, even on the years when they didn't
- 45:09Speaker 2: have great size. But that's an area. I mean, you
- 45:11Speaker 2: got beat last night sixteen to six on the offensive
- 45:13Speaker 2: glass they were plus ten. Now you combatated that by
- 45:17Speaker 2: doing what made a bunch of threes correct, so that
- 45:20Speaker 2: lessened the impact of that. There's going to be some
- 45:22Speaker 2: nights when you're not making the three that you can't
- 45:25Speaker 2: lose the offensive glass by ten or you're going to
- 45:27Speaker 2: be in some trouble. So yeah, there's certainly areas to
- 45:29Speaker 2: work on. It's going to be nearly impossible to pick
- 45:32Speaker 2: that effort up from last night and duplicate it for
- 45:34Speaker 2: the rest of the season. But I think you saw
- 45:36Speaker 2: what was capable, and I think it's what I often
- 45:39Speaker 2: say here. Winning's hard, man. So when you have wins
- 45:42Speaker 2: and you have good performances, you should celebrate and enjoy them,
- 45:45Speaker 2: and they should be thrilled with how that game went
- 45:46Speaker 2: last night.
- 45:47Speaker 1: I think from a statistical standpoint, if you want to
- 45:51Speaker 1: start to do some comparisons, we'll talk about John Beeline
- 45:55Speaker 1: a lot, because this style that he plays is similar.
- 46:00Speaker 1: There are similarities, philosophical similarities to how he plays defensively,
- 46:05Speaker 1: defensively different, defensively different. Obviously West Virginia tried to, you know,
- 46:10Speaker 1: with the one three one, try to kind of tricking
- 46:13Speaker 1: smoking mirrors some things, but there are similarities. So as
- 46:17Speaker 1: to your point the rebounding stat while it is massively
- 46:22Speaker 1: important for Darren, I think he'll also like if you
- 46:26Speaker 1: pushed him into a corner, he will admit that on
- 46:29Speaker 1: certain nights he just knows that he's probably not going
- 46:32Speaker 1: to win the battle of the boards, but you make
- 46:34Speaker 1: it up in different areas. For example, West Virginia under
- 46:38Speaker 1: John Beelin, right, they would get beaten up pretty badly
- 46:40Speaker 1: on the class, but what would they do. They would
- 46:43Speaker 1: limit the number of turnovers, which would give them more
- 46:48Speaker 1: possessions over the course of a game. So this is
- 46:50Speaker 1: it's this give and take, right, and so we'll see
- 46:54Speaker 1: exactly how this team. But to your point, there will
- 46:56Speaker 1: be some nights where you get out rebounded, and there
- 46:59Speaker 1: will be some nights at the same time simultaneously that
- 47:01Speaker 1: you won't make threes, and you know what's gonna happen.
- 47:05Speaker 1: You're gonna have a loss. That's what's gonna happen. And
- 47:08Speaker 1: then there will be some nights where you do get
- 47:10Speaker 1: beatn and go, well, gosh, look at the rebounding. But
- 47:12Speaker 1: they're gonna come up and they're gonna make twelve to
- 47:14Speaker 1: fourteen to three pointers and you go like they won
- 47:17Speaker 1: the game because threes are more than twos one percent.
- 47:20Speaker 1: So this is as much of a math equation some
- 47:23Speaker 1: nights as it's going to be.
- 47:24Speaker 2: Well, and so the other part of last night was
- 47:26Speaker 2: not just the great three point shooting, but you were
- 47:28Speaker 2: twenty five eleven in points off turnovers? Correct were they?
- 47:32Speaker 2: You were plus three in the turnover margin and you
- 47:35Speaker 2: were plus fourteen in points scored off those. So that's
- 47:38Speaker 2: part of how you overcome it. And I think the
- 47:40Speaker 2: other thing we have to remember, and I know this
- 47:43Speaker 2: is hard to do, there's very few perfect teams out there.
- 47:47Speaker 2: There's gonna be very few teams in March that we
- 47:49Speaker 2: will look at and go they do every one of
- 47:51Speaker 2: these things well. So you just have to remember that
- 47:53Speaker 2: there's some teams are gonna have deficiencies and the job
- 47:56Speaker 2: of the staff is to overcome those efficiencies on certain nights.
- 48:00Speaker 2: And I think that's where there's some comfort here that
- 48:02Speaker 2: you've got a coaching staff that understands how to do
- 48:05Speaker 2: That won't work every night, but I think you've got
- 48:07Speaker 2: some guys that understand what they're doing, They understand their personnel,
- 48:10Speaker 2: and they understand how to minimize their their things that
- 48:14Speaker 2: they're going to have to minimize. That makes sense.
- 48:16Speaker 1: You're ready to you're ready to get healed. As Ernest
- 48:19Speaker 1: Dangeley used to say, you're healed three guys on tonight.
- 48:31Speaker 1: That the wrong song. I just Gotta write.
- 48:41Speaker 2: Has a similar thib.
- 48:43Speaker 1: This is this is Angela Petrie. Remember one hundred years
- 48:48Speaker 1: ago she sent us this one in first remember.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Yeah, when I guess that, I remember Correctice she was
- 49:04Speaker 3: out in Martinsburg.
- 49:04Speaker 1: I think that was a long time ago. So the
- 49:10Speaker 1: reason I played that was because someone took all the
- 49:13Speaker 1: music off the desktop here.
- 49:14Speaker 2: Oh they did. Well, it's it's needed to be cleaned up.
- 49:17Speaker 1: Well look at it.
- 49:17Speaker 2: See what they needed to be cleaned up.
- 49:19Speaker 1: But they cleaned it. So I just put in a
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- 49:45Speaker 1: custom made popcorn from the folks at Mountaineer Popcorn out
- 49:52Speaker 1: there in eastern Panhandle. So that's kind of nice, I think.
- 49:58Speaker 1: All right, let me that's jumping. This goes back to
- 50:04Speaker 1: last episode we were talking about if Tutor's biscuits, proud
- 50:10Speaker 1: sponsor on this program. If they were to create a
- 50:15Speaker 1: three guys biscuit, what would it have on it? Remember
- 50:18Speaker 1: that was the question. Yeah, and this person says, definitely
- 50:22Speaker 1: needs a generous serving of ham, remember last time. Yeah.
- 50:30Speaker 1: Another one says, Brad, you always give Tony a hard
- 50:34Speaker 1: time about food shaming. Now Hoppy suggests that Swiss cheese
- 50:38Speaker 1: on a biscuit, which is a very good option. You
- 50:40Speaker 1: immediately shut it down, attacked him. Come on, you're better
- 50:44Speaker 1: than that AJ in South Park.
- 50:45Speaker 2: Solid point, AJ, fair point. I did do that. Here's
- 50:48Speaker 2: my here's my defense of that. Although I take I
- 50:51Speaker 2: take the attack by you and understand the only thing
- 50:56Speaker 2: I would say though, Aj, I wasn't telling Hoppy he
- 50:58Speaker 2: couldn't enjoy Swiss on his biscuit. It was a discussion
- 51:02Speaker 2: about what would be involved in a three guys biscuit
- 51:05Speaker 2: where we need a consensus. That's my only just point
- 51:08Speaker 2: of clarification there. He's free to enjoy Swiss cheese on
- 51:10Speaker 2: a biscuit. I would not. But you're right, Age, I
- 51:13Speaker 2: would not shame him if he personally wanted that. I
- 51:15Speaker 2: just didn't want my name attached.
- 51:17Speaker 1: To that last episode we did our first ever gender
- 51:20Speaker 1: reveal for the Brinkley family. Joey came in afterward. That's
- 51:24Speaker 1: the dad. Appreciate you, guys. That was one hell of
- 51:27Speaker 1: a surprise. Not in your nation will grow by one
- 51:29Speaker 1: in the month of May. Thank you for doing that.
- 51:31Speaker 1: I had no clue that she had set that up.
- 51:34Speaker 1: We're glad to let you know that you're having a
- 51:36Speaker 1: baby boy, Joey.
- 51:36Speaker 2: Congratulations again.
- 51:38Speaker 1: That's awesome, Texter. Happy Halloween, guys. Just saying hm attention,
- 51:46Speaker 1: there's been a major recall on Rec's peanut buttercups. Please
- 51:49Speaker 1: bring them to my house and I will properly dispose
- 51:51Speaker 1: of them for you. That's very cute.
- 51:53Speaker 2: I've been in the process of doing just that.
- 51:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Texter, I enjoyed the three guys reminiscing on your
- 51:59Speaker 1: last episode about the twenty twelve Cincinnata football game in particular,
- 52:04Speaker 1: and in the twenty twelve season in general. With your indulgence,
- 52:07Speaker 1: please allow me to give you a Paul Harvey the
- 52:10Speaker 1: rest of the story moment about the twelve season. October one,
- 52:14Speaker 1: twenty twelve. This beauty was rescued from the depopulation list
- 52:19Speaker 1: at the local Humane Society two days earlier. On September nine,
- 52:23Speaker 1: twenty nine, Steedman Bailey caught five touchdown passes against the
- 52:28Speaker 1: Baylor Bears, so the new poppy had to be named Stedman.
- 52:31Speaker 1: He's doing extremely well at age twelve, when the average
- 52:35Speaker 1: life expectancy for the breed is eight to ten, and
- 52:38Speaker 1: he's been at the stadium every Friday since I got him.
- 52:41Speaker 1: Steedman loves the Mountaineers signed by Pat in Parkersburg.
- 52:46Speaker 2: Those are beautiful dogs, great dogs.
- 52:48Speaker 1: Hey little puppy, Hey, little puppy. Texter Edmond Stedman, Steedman Stedman,
- 52:53Speaker 1: fine looking dog. Steven and Eleanor writes, Guys, I love
- 52:59Speaker 1: the what if discussion about the twenty eleven Cincinnati game.
- 53:02Speaker 1: You could make a case that Bruce Irvin, who caused
- 53:04Speaker 1: the Cholaros injury, should be inducted into the Clemson Hall
- 53:07Speaker 1: of Fame. I think you should add this segment to
- 53:10Speaker 1: weekly shows. Before spreads on stats, your next topic should
- 53:13Speaker 1: be what if rich rod took the Alabama job in
- 53:16Speaker 1: two thousand and six? What if? Oh, it would we'll
- 53:21Speaker 1: just do a little bit on this. It would have
- 53:24Speaker 1: changed the entire generation of college football.
- 53:30Speaker 2: And you're not overstating it. You might be understating it.
- 53:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the entire game of college football was
- 53:37Speaker 1: changed by that decision. Rich doesn't take it. Nick Saban
- 53:41Speaker 1: does becomes the winningest World champion coach of all time.
- 53:45Speaker 1: Just amazing. Of course he had a.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Western and if I mean, if you want to play further,
- 53:50Speaker 2: think with that, how that how much that helped the
- 53:51Speaker 2: SEC brand sure at that point to have a dynasty
- 53:54Speaker 2: like Alabama.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Alabama wasn't quite Alabama when Mike Shula was there.
- 53:59Speaker 1: They were not no Texter. My wife and I met
- 54:02Speaker 1: the neighbors and handed out candy for trick or treat.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Houston is a lot bigger than Morgantown. I think that's
- 54:08Speaker 1: the first time that sentence has ever been read here.
- 54:10Speaker 1: So we got to see quite a few more kids
- 54:12Speaker 1: in costumes who made it an event. We popped open
- 54:15Speaker 1: a bottle of wine and my wife made one of
- 54:16Speaker 1: her favorite party dishes, Skyline Skyline Chili Dip. We must
- 54:22Speaker 1: have seen hundreds of kids over the course of a
- 54:24Speaker 1: few hours, But gentlemen, I've got to say one costume
- 54:27Speaker 1: really stood out. Approximately seven to twenty two PM, I
- 54:31Speaker 1: confirm a mothman sighting in League City Texas.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Excuse me.
- 54:35Speaker 1: I can say for certain the Mothman was quite a
- 54:38Speaker 1: bit shorter than the previous reports, and the statue seemed
- 54:41Speaker 1: to imply definitely an unexpected but welcome Halloween surprise. Josh
- 54:44Speaker 1: from the Space City, So I had a kid dress
- 54:46Speaker 1: up as Mothman. It really wasn't the Mothman. I can
- 54:49Speaker 1: tell you that because you know I, I know the Mothman. Texter.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Big props to my aunt Mary, the mother of the
- 54:58Speaker 1: bride in her pajamas, remember that picture for delivering the
- 55:01Speaker 1: Clark bars to your game last night. Hoops looked great,
- 55:04Speaker 1: Tucker Derez can really score the basketball, and we took
- 55:08Speaker 1: a picture with her. Nice selfie, Tony and Brad looking sharp.
- 55:11Speaker 1: Almost a perfect photo. There we are right there, except
- 55:14Speaker 1: for the random guy and the bow tie photo bombing
- 55:17Speaker 1: in the background. I wonder who that is. As for
- 55:20Speaker 1: those Clark bars, odds are slim. They made it back
- 55:23Speaker 1: to the studio for Hoppy, but not to worry, he'll
- 55:25Speaker 1: probably be too busy covering election days to miss them.
- 55:28Speaker 1: Signed by Brian and Chandler by way of weird. Yeah,
- 55:32Speaker 1: so we got them here. They made it back to
- 55:37Speaker 1: the studio and I've never seen these before, and this
- 55:42Speaker 1: is what they're talking about. These are Clark Bar peanut
- 55:45Speaker 1: butter cups with Clark Crunch.
- 55:48Speaker 2: I bet those are awesome. Nighty one of those a minute.
- 55:50Speaker 1: I'm starving.
- 55:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very nice. Thank you for bringing those over.
- 55:55Speaker 1: That's terrific. Amy and New Martinsville writes, the Saturday after
- 56:02Speaker 1: Black Friday is small Business Saturday. They can see the
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- 56:09Speaker 1: ask the people to support small businesses the following day.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Support those businesses that support your community. Joe Schmoe's Shop
- 56:15Speaker 1: on the Corner sponsors youth sports. Support them. That concludes
- 56:19Speaker 1: my public service announcement, signed by Amy in New Martinsville.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I received this information. I'm going
- 56:31Speaker 1: off script, clearly.
- 56:33Speaker 2: Shock.
- 56:35Speaker 1: So two shows ago, Ted in Warrenton, Virginia. Who is Ted?
- 56:40Speaker 2: The train guys.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Bigger than trains. He jumped all over me when I
- 56:44Speaker 1: said that the United States should have better train service
- 56:47Speaker 1: like Europe. Yeah, they attacked me. So since then we've
- 56:51Speaker 1: got a friendship going. In fact, he's got my cell
- 56:53Speaker 1: numbers so he'll randomly text me.
- 56:55Speaker 2: But anyway, is it always about trains? Or other stuff, other.
- 56:58Speaker 1: Stuff, and one this one is this one is more significant.
- 57:01Speaker 1: So he texted me and I needed to get information
- 57:04Speaker 1: about this before I used it because I wanted to
- 57:06Speaker 1: put my hand around it. But in essence, when I
- 57:08Speaker 1: was thinking about this, this is the this is the
- 57:12Speaker 1: true value, one of the true great values of this
- 57:14Speaker 1: show when we talk about West Virginia connections, and what
- 57:19Speaker 1: we do is we try to use this platform just
- 57:22Speaker 1: to alert you or expose you to the things that
- 57:25Speaker 1: you may not be aware of. And if you want
- 57:27Speaker 1: to indulge or if you'd like to get involved, then
- 57:29Speaker 1: you can do that. So there is a foundation called
- 57:33Speaker 1: the Sweet Julia Grace Foundation and it has a West
- 57:37Speaker 1: Virginia connection to it. There was a young lady who
- 57:41Speaker 1: passed away. Her name was Julia Grace, and this foundation
- 57:47Speaker 1: was created after her passing. It supports children who are
- 57:51Speaker 1: enduring terminal illnesses and other major challenges. And they call
- 57:55Speaker 1: these kids rain dancers because these kids find a way
- 57:59Speaker 1: to dance in the rain despite their challenge. So here's
- 58:05Speaker 1: the West Virginia angle to this. The foundation is located
- 58:11Speaker 1: in Bristow, Virginia and the surrounding areas of Hurricane West
- 58:15Speaker 1: Virginia because although Julia Grace lived most of her twelve
- 58:19Speaker 1: years in Virginia her family where her family currently resides,
- 58:22Speaker 1: she was born in West Virginia. Both of her parents
- 58:24Speaker 1: born and raised Hurricane Area, and so the Night family
- 58:28Speaker 1: considers both West Virginia and in Virginia home and the
- 58:34Speaker 1: Sweet Julia Grace Foundation helps kids in both states. And
- 58:39Speaker 1: so I didn't know anything about this. There was recently
- 58:43Speaker 1: a young lady that passed away in Virginia. That's why
- 58:46Speaker 1: Ted let me know about it. So if by some
- 58:50Speaker 1: chance that hits a spot for you and you'd like
- 58:52Speaker 1: to learn more about it, it's called the Sweet Julia
- 58:56Speaker 1: Grace Foundation. It's Sweet Julia Grace dot org. Find it.
- 59:00Speaker 1: But I just thought there's something that might be hitting
- 59:04Speaker 1: you and you might say I want to know more
- 59:06Speaker 1: or get involved. There you go. Texter Happy, as you know,
- 59:13Speaker 1: isn't here because he is probably has like cucumbers over
- 59:17Speaker 1: his eyes getting ready for the election coverage tonight. Hoppy
- 59:21Speaker 1: big picture thought, all this nil and football funding talk,
- 59:25Speaker 1: isn't it ultimately a state government decision? WVU president Board
- 59:30Speaker 1: of Trustees report up to in a sense, if the
- 59:33Speaker 1: governor and the state agree that the football program is
- 59:36Speaker 1: a net positive impact on the state budget, state tourism,
- 59:39Speaker 1: or state economy. Aren't funds almost unlimited? A one percent
- 59:44Speaker 1: sales tax to fund the program? Let's go. So I'm
- 59:51Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, because this is what I
- 59:54Speaker 1: have noticed, really in the last two to three days.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: This House decision, which is going to lead to revenue
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: sharing starting this coming July, continues to be planned. Conversations
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: are NonStop, and all of the schools that are involved
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: are asking themselves this question, where are we going to
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: come up with these millions of dollars to pay our
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: share to these student athletes? And let's face it, if
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: you're just going to do it solely by going to businesses, corporations, fans,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: it's not going to work over the long term. Simply
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: not going to work. And so I think this not
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: only at West Virginia, but across the country. There need
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: to be some fundamental decisions made by universities as to
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: whether or not they are willing to fund athletics. As
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: the Texter just wrote, there is there a VA tell
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: you to an institution of higher learning to have successful
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: sports programs? Does that in turn lead to a benefit
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: for everyone involved. You could certainly make the case that
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: West Virginia's enrollment skyrocketed in the late nineteen eighties when
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: the Mountaineers went undefeated, and it has been something that
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: the university has used. Okay, Alabama as an institution, as
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: a school, would anyone have the top of mind awareness
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: of Alabama, the University of Alabama had they not had
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: this most recent unprecedented football success. Short answer, No, it's
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: coming and the West Virginias of the world are going
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: to be asked this question. And as he said, it's
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: going to come down to the universities, and it could
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: come down to state government at some point, come to
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: state government at some point. If you want to be
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: good in this new world, if you want to be
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: competitive in this new world, you got to come up
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: with some money. Otherwise you won't be competitive, plain and simple. Now,
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: that's going to ruffle some feathers for the academics, that's
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: going to ruffle some feathers. But that's the reality of it.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: And other activities, right, I mean, that's what you're dealing with.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: It's an easy answer for those that follow sports, and
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: I don't think you're you'd have to twist too many
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: arms to say. The benefit to the university that comes in, sure,
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: but it's the political part of internal operations of a
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: university that MUCKs those things up.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: I'll just jump ahead fifty two steps, and it's going
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: to come down to this. If you want to be
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: viable going forward in collegiate athletics, then you better create
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: a new blueprint of how you're going to fund it.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: And the current system isn't going to work. Right. You
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: can only mac so much MAC, you can only milk
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: so much from the corporations.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: In TV money and TV they're pretty much max in
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: that stuff out.
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Your MAC you're going to be maxed out. So, with
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: all that being said from a sports standpoint, from an
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: athletics standpoint, the hiring of the next president at West
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: Virginia University will be immassively important to the future of athletics.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: If someone comes in that is not a strong advocate
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: of athletics and doesn't understand what it means at WVU
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: and how there needs to be you know, funding, you're
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: not going to become competitive. You're going to lose your
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: competition right now. And I talked about this a couple
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: of shows ago. West Virginia is in the bottom half
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: of the sixteen schools in NIL funding in the Big
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: twelve Conference budget wise, among the lowest overall athletic department
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: budget wise, among the power for schools. So if you
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: really really really want to look into the forward future
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: of what this thing is going to be, there is
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: a that we have reached a seminal moment in college
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: athletics that have gone from amateur status to pay for play,
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: and the West Virginia's, the Pitts, the Virginia Techs, all
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: of these schools now need to make really super hard
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: decisions is how they're going to start funding next July
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: for WVU upwards of over twenty million dollars that we'll
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: go to the student athletes. Historic Now, I don't think
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: that Texter thought he was going to get all that,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: but I'm just noticing that nationally, you're starting to see
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: people put that out there now because.
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: You're trying to find new funding sources. It's part of
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: why the discussion with venture capitalists has.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Come in correct.
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: Right, if you're in charge of coming up with this money,
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: you're having to look around, going all, right, our TV
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: deals locked in, we've got as much as we can
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: there the private fundraising, Yeah, you can always go more,
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: and you can try and get more. But I've mentioned
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: this many times in West Virginia. The number that it
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: was in ninety six when I first started in the
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: athletic department to what it is now, it's an unbelievable
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: jump at that hasn't necessarily grown with all kinds of
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: influx of fortune. Five hundred companies. It's amazing what people
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: have done. From a giving standpoint, what's the next source
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: of income? Where's it come from? And or is it
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: forgiveness of some payments? We talk a lot about scholarships.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: It'd be a massive payment. Does that go away at
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: some point? That's been talked about for thirty plus years
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: ever since the scholarship started having to be paid for?
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: That's a discussion. Where is that? Is that ever going
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: to come back? University going to forgive those scholarship costs?
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: That would be a big bucket.
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: Right Well, the thirteen million dollars big bucket is what they
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: pay you.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: If you're trying to get to get to twenty.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: By that, I mean athletics pays the university twelve to
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars a year in scholarships.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: Yeah so, but that's coming in a time when this
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: particular university is also worrying about its enrollment and its staff. Right,
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: there's a lot of issues on campus, not just in
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: athletics too.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: I bring here's why I think it's starting to be
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: spit out a little bit nationally. I think they're at
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: these point in these meetings of how they're gonna fund
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: these things. Across the board. Athletic directors are constantly talking,
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: commissioners are constantly talking to media members, the national media,
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: and I think they've come to the point go like this,
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: how are you guys gonna do this funding thing? Hey?
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: How you going to do with it? And I think
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: athletic directors are telling these people off the record, we
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: got we have to get help, like what we've done
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: after doing our due diligence on this, Like the university
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: has to help us otherwise we can't hit this number.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: And we're gonna go when it comes to overall come
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: competitiveness anyway, that is huge. I know it's not sexy.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: It's not like the Tobyo Kannie ball out of bounds dunk.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: It's not sexy, but it's like super important, real uh, texter.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Big game last week was Bridgeport against Fairmont Senior. Doug
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: writes in from Bridgeport, beautiful night for an Indians win.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Look at that picture, great picture East West Stadium.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Historically that looks that looks gorgeous.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: Bridgeport played pretty well.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: Huh they did those teams. Prib me again coming up.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Uh. Lewis from Savannah, Georgia. Longtime listener, first time texter.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Not really related but on bye weeks like this weekend,
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: this was last weekend. Curious what games do you three
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: tend to gravitate too and watch? Also noting Cincinnata is
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: also on a buy so I can't watch them, but
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: I watched.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: Uh you watch Penn State, Ohio State.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: You know what, I was shopping. But that YouTube TV's nice,
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: That's really nice. You still you still got like a
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: wire to your house or something.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: My setups okay, but.
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: That YouTube TV put that on my phone. Let's just
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: say hypothetically that your wife was frontiture shopping. You put
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: that YouTube TV on your phone. You got that multi screen.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: You can watch four games at the same time while
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: you sit in a chair that you're not going to buy.
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: That's a pretty good deal. Then night, I got home
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: and I watched the South Carolina Texas Tech at Texas
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: A and M game.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: You did watch the one I gravitate towards the Big
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Twelve games, like I watched Penn State, Ohio State. Then
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: I tried checking on those Big Twelve games.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: Yeah, they were pretty much over by that time. Houston
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: had already won in Kansas, Stated already lost the end
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: of the night.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: So I watched a little Tennessee that night. What IOWA
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: was on that night?
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Buddy of mine was doing the game, the Texas A
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: and M South Carolina game, so I turned that up
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: because I wanted to hear him. Mike Alco, fine job,
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: I was just shortly Texter. What are the chances all
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: four of the teams that beat West Virginia this year
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: all lose on the same day? Who had a combined
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: twenty eight and one record each to a lower ranked
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: or unranked team, two at home, two on the road. Yeah,
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: it was pretty wild.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Twelve.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: This next text is a bit concerning Mike and Wheeling.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: I must say watching your podcast is like watching the
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: Three Stooges dismantle a pipe bomb. You know it's probably
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: going to explode. But you just don't know which knucklehead
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: is gonna suddenly stick his finger where he shouldn't and
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: then boom Mike and wheeling. Thank you, Mike. I hope
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: the coaching change, he says, improves the situation at West Virginia.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Wish you all the best. I ran my first and
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: last marathon today. When deciding what to wear, I knew
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: there was only one choice, the efforting T shirt.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: When I finished, I said, thanks for having me. I
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: lost track of how many compliments and laughs I got
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: on that shirt. Hopefully you get some new listeners. Thanks
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: for all you do in a great gear. Tyler Gordon
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: from Beckley. There he is, man, well done. Tyler ran
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: himself a marathon.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: I just impressed.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: So Marshall had a marathon, Huh, I didn't even know that.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: Isn't Maggie, our producer, big Runner. She's gonna run a marathon? Yeah,
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: I tell you it's a bird one huge, I can
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: boss or something like that. Tanzania probably win the thing, France, Paris,
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: New York might be the Olympic.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: Mari Munich World Trials.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: Texter. I just wanted to report that I just completed
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: a sixteen day family trip through Italy, Croatia and Montenegro
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: as the good mountaineer family that we are representing the
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: old gold and blue. We wore it everywhere we went,
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: ran into mountaineers on the cruise ship every city we visited. Also,
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: a huge thank you to you guys because of this podcast.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: I impressed my tour guide with my knowledge of when
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: I should and should not enjoy cappuccino never after eleven
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: am and my extensive knowledge of San Marzano tomatoes. Yeah,
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: good picture. Look at that. That's a great family. Now
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: see that picture there that's in Triass, Italy. That's a
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: war monument, World War one, World War one war monument.
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: So thanks for all you guys do. Here's yeah, a
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: couple of pictures. Now, look at that, Sarah wrote in there.
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: Every city we visited people say hey, we're from West Virginia.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: They all said mountain mamad take me home.
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: Sixteen day trip too.
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: That's nice. That's a good way to do that. Look
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: at that.
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: That's great shot.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: I don't think that's the Man River. I don't think
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: it is Texter. Oh lah trace muchachos. I suppose I
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: could dive into the seemingly perpetual unrest with Mountainer Nation.
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: But I'm not going to because, to be honest, I'm
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: tired of it and I wanted to stop. Nevertheless, life
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: moves on. While we're at the grocery store of the weekend,
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: I was marveling at the speed of the Holloway to
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Halloween to Christmas transition, and I saw this thing on
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: the shelves, Recee's answer to the fly rod, slim jow
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: that's got seventeen bars, seventeen bars, cups, Yeah, seventeen cups, bars,
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: whatever it takes, that's all. Texter George A. P One
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: from Fayettville, West Virginia. My wife Laurie and I are
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: the duo that brought you guys the Tutors chicken wraps.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Of course, Oh they were great, terrific, you know. Uh.
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: The wife Laurie, she's in charge of franchise opportunities for
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: Tudor's Biscuit World. They've got over seventy locations and they're
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: currently you know, opening up opportunities for franchisees. So, if
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: you're a business owner, entrepreneur and you'd like to have
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: yourself forty years brand equity and top of mind awareness,
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: as who is the greatest biscuit in the state of
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: West Virginia. They are doing franchises for tutors Biscuit.
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: World, so you can talk to Laurie if you want to.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: Just contact your sitter's Biscuit World. You know, they won
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: that world championship, got a medal for the Mountaineer biscuit.
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: Of course they did awesome anyway, George Wrights. This past
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, my coworkers scheduled a meeting for us in Toledo, Ohio.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: This is the furthest distance of my geographic territory, at
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: six hour drive. I reluctant agreed because we had never
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: secured a meeting at this place. We're meeting with doctors
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: at the medical center and in the small conference room
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: there's six of the finest physicians in their department. We
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: do the introductions. I make about a forty five minute presentation.
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: As we are wrapping up, the folks are leaving the room,
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: one of the physicians comes up to me to say,
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: you're from West Virginia. I say, yeah, fayefl. The guy says,
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: my dad's from Morgantown. He goes on to say how
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: he would routinely visit and attend Mountaineer games as a
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: kid and a young adult. He goes on to say
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: his grandparents attended West Virginia as well. Of course, casually
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: says Casually, He says his grandfather did some coaching at
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: the university. Turns out, I'm speaking with Paul Romanowski, the
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: grandson of WVU Hall of Fame track and cross country
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: coach stand Romanowski. I'm looking forward to hearing more stories
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: from his grandson about coach Romanowski, and he adds just
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: goes to show you can always find a West Virginia
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: connection wherever you may be.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: Always.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember Stan and when I first got here,
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: absolutely do remember him.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: Thanks George.
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Texter logan from Mannington midgame text, I love that
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: we have so many guys who can shoot. I know
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: it's too early to tell, but WVU men's basketball looks good.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Hopefully this stock can stay strong throughout the season. He
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: comes back later and says, can West Virginia invest in
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: some shot clocks that work? It's been a reoccurring issue
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: for several seasons now. Probably not a great moment for Daktronics, right.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Yeah, things happened first game, Yeah.
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: I'd rather have that maybe at like a practice or
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: something like that. You can't.
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: It happens, like, get a lot of people in the building,
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: things happen.
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, all right. So we've expended our
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: time and the uh, this studio is going to be
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: used tonight for the election coverage and historic Night right
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: the Dean.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: Are we allowed to do sports lining in here? Do
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: we have to go somewhere else because they take it
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: over all day?
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: Like?
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: Are are there people waiting outside the door right now
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: to get in? And no change the whole thing. So
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: we're allowed to do the show tonight.
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: And I will tell you this, dude, when we do
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: sports line tonight in this studio, about six point fifty seven,
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: you're gonna see that door start to crack just a
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: little bit and you'll just start to see a nose
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: come out of it, you know, like a dog going
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: after like a biscuit or something like that. It'll be curtiable.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: He'll be jonesing to get in here, and he'll be like, hey,
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: we're on the seven six, honest something, We're gonna be
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: out here. Gonna be out here, That's what's gonna be.
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: They're gonna take my time. I'm gonna lounge around, put
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: my feet up here, make them go absolutely crazy. Hey listen,
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: seven oh six, seven ten, whatever it is, hoppy. I'll
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: I'll be out here in a bit.
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: Have you confirmed we can do the show in here?
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: Are you just saying no? They're saying that that's true. Yeah,
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: they're saying that we can. Yeah, we're back in just
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: a couple of days to preview Connecticut and Connecticut chies
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: to preview Cincinnati. That's who it is, Cincinnati, not Connecticut.
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: Although I wouldn't mind playing Connecticut, would you that? I'd
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: take them on a Saturday share, bring them in.
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: I'll due respective.
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Coach Moore doing a great job. I think
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: they're Bowl eligible. I think they are unbelievable. I'd still
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