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LEBRON + JAYLEN BROWN ON THE 76ERS?! | NBA 2026-27 Season Preview · Toadstool Sports

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  Speaker 1: The Philadelphia 76ers, they're the talk of the offseason, man.
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  Speaker 1: They made the big offseason moves, made the biggest splash.
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  Speaker 1: They got Jalen Brown from my boss at Celtics. They
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  Speaker 1: signed LeBron James to, I'm assuming, somewhat of a smaller
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  Speaker 1: contract here as we thought he might retire. Are the
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  Speaker 1: 76ers actually going to be the best team in the.
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  Speaker 2: NBA this year? Are they the super team? Are they
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  Speaker 2: going to win it all? Should we hate them?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like everybody's going to hate them, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to say that the answer is yes, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be a hater as a Celtic fan, but
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  Speaker 1: just generally I don't like super teams.
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  Speaker 2: Like I hated the LeBron.
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  Speaker 1: Fiasco with the decision back in the day. Like that
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  Speaker 1: thing just, I mean, I know it pissed everybody off
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  Speaker 1: and of course it pissed me off. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: never liked LeBron anyway, but I mean, yeah, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to get mad at me, whatever. Of course, you know, I,
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  Speaker 1: I root for the Celtics, so I root against all
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  Speaker 1: the teams that he's been on.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever. I don't know where I'm even going with this, man.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I think the 76ers are going to draw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hate. Are they going to actually win
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  Speaker 1: the championship, though? Am I even able to predict things
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  Speaker 1: that far into the future? Which teams may be undervalued here?
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  Speaker 1: Which teams may be overvalued? Are the 76ers overvalued? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about it, and this is probably
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  Speaker 1: going to be a short video, but we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: what the odds are on some of these teams, who
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  Speaker 1: we think can win it all, who the contenders are,
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  Speaker 1: who maybe the pretenders are coming up after the intro.
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  Speaker 3: You got a slip in your palm and a hole
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  Speaker 3: in your chest Black coffee on the felt, man, you
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  Speaker 3: look like a mess Three-team parlay turned to dust in
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  Speaker 3: your hand Now you stare at the chips like they
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  Speaker 3: made you this man But don't you go quiet, don't
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  Speaker 3: you fade from the floor Your name still means something
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  Speaker 3: to somebody for sure Put the glass down, baby.
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  Speaker 4: Look at me now Hold on, hold on Not tonight,
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  Speaker 4: not now Hold on, hold on Let me pull you
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  Speaker 4: out That fell apart by its heart But it don't
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  Speaker 4: get the crown Hold on, hold on, stay with me now.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, stay with me now.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about the teams that are potential championship contenders and
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  Speaker 1: who may not be or maybe are going to be
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  Speaker 1: overrated coming into the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into this, man. I think I'm allowed
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  Speaker 2: to do this.
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  Speaker 1: And bring up good old DK here as long as
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  Speaker 1: I'm not actually logged in and doing whatever I might
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  Speaker 1: be doing otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: We're looking at the Eastern Conference here.
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  Speaker 1: I usually go division by division, but in the NBA, it.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like it's not as important.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go conference by conference here. We got
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  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference up, which is where the Philadelphia 76ers are.
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  Speaker 1: As I mentioned before the intro, the big news is
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  Speaker 1: they got Jalen Brown, one of the big two, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, from the Celtics.
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  Speaker 2: So they do have him. I think he's a good
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  Speaker 2: offensive player. Honestly, I think his defense can be questioned
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  Speaker 2: at times.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the Celtics in that trade, well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess I'll talk about when I get to the Celtics,
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk about who they got in that trade. The
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  Speaker 1: Sixers also did sign LeBron, but we know LeBron is,
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  Speaker 1: he's old, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still a good player.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, but we're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: peak LeBron here, obviously. I don't even think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a starter. He'll be a role player coming
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  Speaker 1: off the bench. Sure, it gives the 76ers depth. He's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of experience, obviously, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: move is also kind of overrated.
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  Speaker 2: We saw what he did with the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: In the last couple of seasons, which was Not a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot, and he occasionally wasn't playing because he's old,
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  Speaker 1: so I think that that move is going to be overvalued,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion. I actually think the Jalen Brown trade,
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  Speaker 1: which people seem to think was really lopsided in favor
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  Speaker 1: of the Sixers, I didn't like it at first, but
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it more, yeah, I mean, I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 1: I think people are overvaluing its lopsidedness. I know that
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  Speaker 1: the Celtics got draft picks with it, so they're sort
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  Speaker 1: of playing a little bit of a future game, but
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  Speaker 1: I think they're doing a little bit of both, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, whereas obviously the Sixers are trying to win
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  Speaker 1: right now. And we know they have Joel Embiid, although
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  Speaker 1: he seems to be always hurt with his bad knees.
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  Speaker 1: And for the most part, the rest of their team
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  Speaker 1: is staying intact. I believe they still have Maxie and whatever, right?
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  Speaker 2: Let me see. I don't want to talk out of
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  Speaker 2: my ass here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's basically going to be what their starting
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  Speaker 1: lineup is going to look like.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to have those guys in it. And they
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  Speaker 2: did add.
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  Speaker 1: Who was also on the Celtics. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: was involved in that same trade, although I could be wrong. No,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Celtics traded Simons prior to that. He's
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  Speaker 1: like a pure shooter and doesn't really play any defense. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he is what he is. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's that big of a deal. But as you can see,
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  Speaker 1: the Sixers are plus 425, so they have the second
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  Speaker 1: best odds to win the Eastern Conference. And I think
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  Speaker 1: people are going to be pretty much hammering them to
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  Speaker 1: win this conference. The Knicks still have the best odds
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  Speaker 1: to win this conference at plus 360. Obviously, the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: are coming off winning the championship. I think certain things
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  Speaker 1: honestly kind of fell their way during that run as
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  Speaker 1: far as the opponents they wound up having to face
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  Speaker 1: during the postseason.
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  Speaker 2: Run and whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they won it, and they drew a very inexperienced
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  Speaker 1: San Antonio team in the finals, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: Spurs were actually the better of the two teams, just
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  Speaker 1: Power ratings-wise, they definitely were.
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  Speaker 2: They were the favorite in that series.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, I think the inexperience really messed with the Spurs,
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  Speaker 1: and they had that game where they could have turned
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  Speaker 1: the whole series around, and they were winning by a
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  Speaker 1: blowout margin, and they wound up blowing that game.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't do it, man. You can't do it. So,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think some things fell the Knicks way, even though, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be one of the best teams again.
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  Speaker 1: They have a very similar team, I think, coming into
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  Speaker 1: this year, except they lost Mitchell Robinson to the Celtics. So...
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  Speaker 1: I think it might have been to free agency, and
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  Speaker 1: then the Celtics signed him, I believe is what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the Knicks, I don't think they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be quite as good as they were last year.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really see much value on them here
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  Speaker 1: at plus 360. I think the Sixers are overhyped, as
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of alluding to. If you're going to
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: look at the Eastern Conference winner, dude... I know I'm
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  Speaker 1: a Celtics fan, but my bias usually is a negative bias. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I always think this team fucking sucks. Like, I am
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  Speaker 1: always overly critical about my own team, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? But I actually think that the value in
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  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference is actually on the Celtics at plus 500.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like nobody thinks the Celtics are going to
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  Speaker 1: do anything. Oh, they lost Jalen Brown. Yeah, but, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they got Paul George. I know he's old, but he's
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  Speaker 1: a better defender than... than Jalen Brown. This is what
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  Speaker 1: the Celtics are trying to do. So if you look
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  Speaker 1: at what they did, they got Paul George, they got
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson. Interesting move, I think, there for the Celtics.
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  Speaker 1: And what do those two guys do? They give you
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  Speaker 1: more possessions. Paul George is a defensive master, kind of,
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  Speaker 1: and he gets a lot of steals. And Mitchell Robinson is...
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  Speaker 1: The one thing that he does excellently is offensive rebounding.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the best offensive rebounders in the league.
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  Speaker 2: So I think what the Celtics are trying.
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  Speaker 1: To do is go even crazier with what they're already doing,
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  Speaker 1: which is take as many three-pointers as possible, basically, because
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  Speaker 1: three is better than two, even though it's a lower
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  Speaker 1: percentage shot. You know this is what the Celtics do.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Joe Mazzulla thing. Just fire as many threes
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  Speaker 1: as possible. And I think what they're trying to do
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  Speaker 1: now is possession max, basically. So they're saying, well, if
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  Speaker 1: we can get more steals, like induce more turnovers with
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  Speaker 1: Paul George there, and if we can get more offensive
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  Speaker 1: rebounds and we can have this vacuum right at the
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  Speaker 1: basket in Mitchell Robinson, he can get some of these
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  Speaker 1: offensive rebounds and get guys extra looks.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the sellers are trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to try to take even more three-point attempts
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  Speaker 1: than they already were. You know, so the more attempts
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  Speaker 1: you get, theoretically, the more you're going to make as well.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what they're doing. And honestly, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure that it's a bad idea. Like I actually don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's as bad as people think that it is.
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  Speaker 1: And they do have some up and coming kind of
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  Speaker 1: younger players that are going to be in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they still have Jason Tatum, who is going
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  Speaker 1: to be, you know, the team's leader. And maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: actually better because I think between Tatum and Brown, it
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  Speaker 1: almost seemed like, well, we don't know which one of
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  Speaker 1: these guys is like the leader. But now with one
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  Speaker 1: of them gone, it's clearly it has to be Tatum now.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So I think that actually kind of defines his role
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  Speaker 1: more specifically. And remember, Tatum missed almost all of last
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  Speaker 1: year and the Celtics still were one of the best
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  Speaker 1: teams in the conference without him. So it's like, do
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  Speaker 1: you really think the Celtics is going to take this
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  Speaker 1: major step back without Brown when they just had a
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  Speaker 1: great season without Tatum? I don't really think so. Missoula
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  Speaker 1: is a really good regular season coach. I know I
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  Speaker 1: hate his, postseason coaching where he seems to just change
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  Speaker 1: the way that he coaches I'm spending too much time
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  Speaker 1: on the Celtics because they're my team but I just
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  Speaker 1: honestly from a betting perspective I actually think the value
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  Speaker 1: is with the Celtics in the Eastern Conference at plus
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  Speaker 1: 500 I see people out there saying they think the
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  Speaker 1: Celtics are going to win like 35 games I'm like
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  Speaker 1: that's a fucking joke dude because their.
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  Speaker 2: Their season win total line is like around 50 and
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  Speaker 2: All right, 35.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead and bet 50. Bet the under 50 and
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  Speaker 1: see what happens, man. I just don't see it. And
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  Speaker 1: the Easter Conference doesn't have that many good teams in it. Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's really, I think, kind of the... Honestly, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of the top five, maybe six, and then
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  Speaker 1: you can go from there. And I'm going to exclude
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  Speaker 1: the Raptors from that, even though they have better odds.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to see more from the Raptors, really.
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  Speaker 1: But the other team that's in the mix there is
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  Speaker 1: obviously the Cavs at plus 900. I mean, they've always been...
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  Speaker 1: Over the last few years, at least, they've been right
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  Speaker 1: near the top of the conference. They're a pretty similar
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  Speaker 1: team to what they have been in those other years.
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  Speaker 1: So I see Cleveland basically being about the same. They're
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  Speaker 1: at plus 900. They haven't been able to get over
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  Speaker 1: that hump and win the entire thing, though, win the conference.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they've kind of hit their peak
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  Speaker 1: and hit their plateau. Maybe they can do it. I
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  Speaker 1: think they just signed.
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  Speaker 1: Donovan mitchell i think they just uh gave him like
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  Speaker 1: some huge new contracts so that might get him settled
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  Speaker 1: in and have him performing a little bit better you
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  Speaker 1: know trying to earn his contract like earn his pay
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  Speaker 1: you know what i mean we'll see if that actually
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  Speaker 1: winds up being the case tower gang npc what's up
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  Speaker 1: man yes yes thank you uh yes do not support
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  Speaker 1: uh jee All right, and then we have, surprisingly, the
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  Speaker 1: Raptors are at plus 1,000 at 10-1 to win this conference.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that it surprises me to see
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  Speaker 1: them there, maybe I'm missing something, and maybe I'm undervaluing them. Like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they are a team that's on the rise again here,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong, because I was surprised to see
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  Speaker 1: them having the fifth-best odds, essentially, in the conference, tied, actually,
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  Speaker 1: with the Detroit Pistons here, if this is readable. Very
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  Speaker 1: interesting that they're considered to have the same odds to
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  Speaker 1: win the conference as the Pistons. The big news for
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  Speaker 1: the Raptors, I'm pretty sure, was that they got Kawhi
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  Speaker 1: Leonard back, and he was on their championship team way
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  Speaker 1: back when, whenever that was. It wasn't that long ago,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. But that seems like an overrated move to me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a guy that is definitely
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  Speaker 1: old at this point. He seemed to just not even
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  Speaker 1: be playing when he was on the Clippers, possibly hurt,
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  Speaker 1: possibly not wanting to play.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't consider that to be a, move that's
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  Speaker 1: going to have a ton of impact for Toronto. I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe he's trying to retire there because that's where
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: he won the championship. Well, no, you'd think he'd retire
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  Speaker 1: as a Spur, right? Actually, he won a championship with
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs. You're right, he probably did. They were winning
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  Speaker 1: all those championships back then. So yeah, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the deal is there, but he will be there.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm going to have to see more
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  Speaker 1: from the Raptors. I know they made the playoffs last year,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know. To me, I don't would think
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  Speaker 1: that they would actually be a team that might even
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  Speaker 1: take a step back from that because I thought they
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  Speaker 1: overperformed a little bit to get to the playoffs. I
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  Speaker 1: was surprised they played as well as they did against
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  Speaker 1: the Cavs in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Pistons at 10-1, they seemed like the
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  Speaker 1: team that was going to be taking that next step forward, right?
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  Speaker 1: That team had that young core, and now they're getting
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  Speaker 1: more experience. They've been in the playoffs multiple years in
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  Speaker 1: a row. There may be some value there with the Pistons.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe people are kind of discounting them because
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  Speaker 1: they didn't look good in the playoffs last year, really.
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  Speaker 1: But they're getting more and more experience, man. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure they have a similar team to last year or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't see the Pistons not being one of.
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  Speaker 2: The better teams.
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  Speaker 1: I think they will be one of the better teams
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  Speaker 1: in the East. The Heat, of course, they're at 11-1.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they got Giannis, so there's obviously some hype
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  Speaker 1: there because he's one of the best players in the league,
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  Speaker 1: or at least he used to be. And I believe
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  Speaker 1: they got Bobby Portis in that trade as well. But
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  Speaker 1: he did lose Tyler Hero in that trade and a
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  Speaker 1: couple other guys. I think Hero and Jaquez, I think,
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  Speaker 1: and one other guy.
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  Speaker 2: So they lost guard play. They lost basically their starting
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  Speaker 2: point guard, Hero. They lost their Hero.
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  Speaker 1: But he was the guy that kind of ran the
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  Speaker 1: offense when he was there. And I know he was
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  Speaker 1: hurt a lot, and Miami got used to playing without him.
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  Speaker 1: I still think that's a big loss, though, like maybe
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  Speaker 1: a bigger loss to people. And I think the addition
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  Speaker 1: of Giannis is going to be overrated. So like these
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  Speaker 1: teams that are getting these big name players, I think
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  Speaker 1: they get overvalued in the market. So I'm not really
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  Speaker 1: that high on the heat here, man. Like to me,
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  Speaker 1: I just think they're going to basically do what they've
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  Speaker 1: done the last few years and be one of those
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  Speaker 1: teams that gets one of those lower seeds in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: And that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: I know they made the finals a few years ago because,
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  Speaker 1: of course, they beat the Celtics. Almost blew a 3-0
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  Speaker 1: lead against the Celtics. So that, to me, seemed like
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  Speaker 1: pretty much a fluke. So, yeah, I'm not too high
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  Speaker 1: on the Heat. I think they're going to be overvalued
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  Speaker 1: because of the Giannis thing. We'll see if he can
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  Speaker 1: even stay healthy. And then the other thing I was
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: going to mention about the Sixers is when we saw
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  Speaker 1: those old LeBron super teams like.
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  Speaker 2: That, the chemistry needs to get built. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: When you get new key players like that that are
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: going to want to fulfill a big role It's almost
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  Speaker 1: like you might be, you have to be worried about
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the potential of like, there might be some ego clashing
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  Speaker 1: going on there.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? that might not necessarily be
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  Speaker 2: a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't when the Heat first formed that super
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  Speaker 1: team with Wade, LeBron, Bosh. They won a championship, or
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: did they win two? I don't know, but it took
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: them a while to get to that level. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: get there right away. They started out slow, trying to
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: figure out how to play with each other. So you
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  Speaker 1: might see that type of thing with the Sixers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: are the Sixers going to be there in the running
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  Speaker 1: to win? Yeah, they will be, just because they have
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: that amount of talent on the roster. But I think
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: they're a bit overvalued in the market, though. And then
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: we do have the Pacers at 12-1 here. You know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've had issues with injuries over the last
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: couple years. I'm assuming they still have Halliburton and whatever. Like,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: will he be able to stay healthy and whatever? I mean,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: they're only a couple years removed from making a run
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: to the finals, although that, to me, seemed like a
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: little bit of a fluke run as well, where they
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: pulled off some upsets to get there.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: We'll see if they can do it again.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: They, to me, seem like Maybe one of those teams
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: that gets into the bottom of the playoff bracket again.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: And then the Magic seem like they've really kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: fallen off at 22-1. Also, the Hawks at 22-1. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: don't know much about the Hawks. I mean, the Hawks, again,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: because there are just so many teams to make the playoffs.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: The Hawks, again, seem like maybe one of those 7-10
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: seed type of teams.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Orlando... They were.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Not healthy last year, Orlando, and then they actually were
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: kind of surprising in the playoffs. They actually played pretty well,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, and looked like they were going
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: to knock out the Pistons, if I remember, until the Pistons, like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: or did they knock out the Pistons?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Now that I'm thinking about it, did they actually knock
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: them out? I don't remember.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Because I remember Orlando was playing well in that series.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I wish I remembered, man. My memory used to be great.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Now it's like whatever. But Orlando, I mean, they should
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: be kind of there in the mix. Orlando might be
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit undervalued. to be honest, at 22-1,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: if you want a real long shot. But if you
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: do something like that and you want to play them
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: to win the conference, I think you're going to have
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to hedge, I would say, because I don't think they're
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: actually going to win the conference. But they might make
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a run, and then you can
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: find an opportunity to maybe fade them in the playoffs
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: at some point or whatever. Or you might be able
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to look at the market. If there's a market to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs or something, I don't know if there is. But, yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you might be able to see what their odds are
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: on that. I don't know if it's close to 50-50
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: or what as far as the odds. But, yeah, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: mean the Magic still have some of those better players there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And they seem to just not be healthy usually, like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: fully healthy. Like last year they had injuries all over
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the place during the season. So, yeah, if they could
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: stay healthy, I think they might be undervalued. And then
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the Charlotte Hornets are down at 45-1. They– They lost
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. They traded him over to Minnesota, and they
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: got Nas Reid in that trade.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I forget who else.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Reid, you know, I mean, he's a better defensive player,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: but they lost Ball, who's a scorer, obviously. This Hornet team,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: they kind of seem like they're trying to be like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the mini Celtics because their coach is a former coach
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of the Celtics.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: They're a team that's going to be taking a shit
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: ton of threes.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Whatever, and they looked like they were a team that
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: was on the rise, right, because they made the playoffs
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: last year for the first time in a while, but
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: now that their best player has moved on, well, via
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the trade, I don't know. It looks like these odds
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: are kind of saying that that team's going to take
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: a step back, but maybe people will overvalue that aspect
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of it, right? Like, again, the key player in any trade, like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the value that that guy carries tends.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: To be overstated. So maybe there is... some form of
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: value on the Hornets.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Like, maybe to play them to make the playoffs again
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: or something like that after losing their, you know, best player.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe the Hornets will still actually be sneaky and be,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, in the running to make the playoffs.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I think they will.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, most of these teams are going to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Too many teams make the playoffs, man.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And then you got the Wizards at 75-1, which is
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: interesting that they have better odds than.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: The Bucs, the Bulls, and the Nets. I mean, the Nets.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: You figure, I mean, again, they're a bottom-tier team, whatever.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: What else is new? The Bulls also just not... not
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: considered to be there at the moment, even though I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: think they made the playoffs the last couple years, the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: play-in playoff games, just because so many teams make it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: The Wizards, it's interesting to see them being a little
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: bit on the rise there, though.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: We'll see what they can do.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I think they had a pretty high draft pick this year.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I forget who they actually drafted, though. I wish I remembered.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: NBA draft.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Hang on. Let me see here. I should know. Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the Wizards got DeBonsai. Yeah, of course they did. That's right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: From BYU. So they got, like, the best scorer in college.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And then Peterson was the number two draft pick. That's right.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I'll keep this up, Bob.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: In my other window here, just to refresh my memory
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: about the draft picks, but yeah, so DeBond's, I think,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: is kind of affecting that line a little bit, but.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: He might be overrated, too, like in the market, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? He's obviously a good player, but
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I think he has defensive shortcomings. He's a great scorer.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: We'll see what he can do in the NBA.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: He played in the Big 12 in college basketball, which
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that is a tough conference. It's way tougher than it
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: is in football. Basketball, the Big 12, is one of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the best conferences, so It's interesting. They're at 75-1, but
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: maybe that draft pick has them overvalued a little bit.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: The Bucs, of course, lost Giannis, so they've plummeted down
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to being considered to be one of the worst teams
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: as they seem to be kind of rebuilding. Maybe they're
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: getting a little bit undervalued, but I still don't expect
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a whole lot out of that team. Although, I know
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they played most of last year without Giannis, but they
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: didn't even make the playoffs. Although, I think he was
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: hurt for a large chunk of some of the prior
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: seasons where they did make the playoffs, but whatever.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And then we have the Western Conference, which is really
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: kind of a two-team conference. And it's the same two
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: teams that rose up last year, the Thunder and the Spurs.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Thunder plus 140, Spurs plus 150 to win the conference.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I would say it's almost definitive it will be one
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of those two. I would be shocked if any other.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Team won this conference. The Spurs... made, like, a really
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: meteoric rise.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: We know Wemba, Wemba Nyama, really, really good. We know
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that they got a bunch of good young players. The
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: question is, did they kind of, like, did they exceed, like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: their level last year? Like, well, I think they did
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: because that's why they lost in the finals. I think
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the Thunder, if they made the finals, I think they
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: would have won because they just had that much experience
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and that much depth. And I was kind of surprised
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: they lost to the Spurs, to be honest, because usually
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: it's an experience thing where usually the up-and-coming team like
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the Spurs, it's like they kind of do it step-by-step,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and the Spurs kind of leapfrogged that one step and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: made it to the final.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Will they be able to make it back there? I mean, maybe.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: They do have experience now.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I'd still be kind of leaning towards the Thunder to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: win this conference again. I think people might kind of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: discount them a little bit because they did lose to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the Spurs last year, and the Spurs looked awesome and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: got to the final. It's going to be one of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: those two teams, highly likely, I would say. Again, I'd
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: be shocked if it's not one of those two teams.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: If it's either one of those, it wouldn't surprise me, though, obviously.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But I'd lean a little bit towards the Thunder. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: think the public might have a tendency to maybe lean
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the other way there. given that it's almost a toss
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: up between those two teams. Uh, but the thunder are
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: considered to have the slightly better odds to win the conference.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: At least then we have the Minnesota T wolves at
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: 14 to one coming in as the third best odds
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to win the West. As I said, they got a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: ball in that trade with the Hornets.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That was their big trade.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: They lost Nas Reed in that trade, which I think
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: is not great. I mean, I think he's an underrated
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: player to be honest.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Um, Like a good defensive player.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Ball will give them more offense, of course. But I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think that type of move is actually a little bit overrated. So,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Minnesota's a team that's always there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Like the last few years, they will be again. I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: just don't think they're going to reach that next level
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: where they're going to be able to somehow get through
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: either the Thunder or the Spurs.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think it'll happen. I thought they would actually
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: beat the Spurs. I think it was the Spurs.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I thought they might be able to knock the Spurs
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: out last year because Minnesota had that experience last Didn't
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: actually happen.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Minnesota does have a similar roster.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: To that, though, except for the change that I mentioned there,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I believe. Then the Houston Rockets are actually next at 15-1.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: They're actually tied with the Nuggets at 15-1.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets, I mean, we know. They're a team that's
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: kind of always there in the running, too.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: They got Jokic. They're getting older and older, though. They're
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a team that won the championship, I think, not too
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: long ago. That was the year the Heat beat the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Celtics and made the finals. The Nuggets won that championship.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So the Nuggets, I mean, they got experience. They fired
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: their coach that was their winning coach, I'm pretty sure,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: at some point after that last year, I think they
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: fired him.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets should be there again. I mean, as long
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: as Jokic is.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Healthy, and they got Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray, I think, right?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: They still have kind of their big three there. Maybe
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: they're a little bit thin roster-wise, and if one of
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: those guys goes down again, they seem to not ever
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: have their big three all healthy at the same time.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: If they do, the Nuggets are definitely going to be
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a threat here, at least. And then it is interesting
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that the Rockets have the same odds. The Rockets, yeah,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: there might be some value on the Rockets if you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: want a little bit of a longer shot there. 15-1,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't look great in the playoffs last year.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: They were the home favorite, I believe. Oh, no, they
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: were a road favorite, if I remember correctly, in their
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: series against the Lakers, and that did not pan out
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: for them. But the Rockets were considered to be the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: better team then, and maybe they'll be able to get there.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: more experience uh coming into this year for the uh
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the Rockets they got some young guys that are sort
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of uh on the rise a little bit and people
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like the Rockets I think they get overvalued in the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: eyes of the public because they don't have that like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: real star presence there on the team but that's a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: team that's the type of team that might have some
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: value on them you know a team that plays good
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: basketball team basketball doesn't really have that star player there
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and if they can play really good defense or whatever. So, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: there might be some value on the Rockets. And then
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the Lakers are at 20-1.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, Lakers, they got Luka still and whatever. They
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: lost LeBron, obviously, but I still don't think that's that
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: big of a loss.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: The Lakers still have Luka, Reeves.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: We'll see what their white guy roster can do this year. Surprisingly,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: we've reached the point, though, where I think even as
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a Celtics fan, I'm supposed to hate the Lakers the most.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I think this year I might hate the 76ers more
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: than I hate the Lakers.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It is what it is.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Lakers seem almost slightly pitiable with the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: way things have gone for them recently, but we'll see.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be able to go a little bit further
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: this year again, but I don't know, man. It remains
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to be seen. Then the Warriors are below that at 40-1.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: which I believe they still have Steph Curry and whatever,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: but it's an aging Warriors team, an aged Warriors.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Team at this point. They've been old for a while.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Probably a playoff team again and not much more, just
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like they have been.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I don't really see it for them.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: The Trailblazers, of course, because they blazed their way into
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, and they got some key young
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: players there, and they looked pretty good in their run
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: last year and got a little bit of experience making
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the playoffs there. Yeah, I mean, they're the next team,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: as far as the odds are concerned, at 40-1. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I guess the question is, did they overperform a little
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: bit to do what they did last year? I think yes,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: but they also got experience at the same time. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I think as far as how overvalued or undervalued they are,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I think maybe the line is about right on them.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I think they might be one of those teams, they're
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: going to be one of those bottom teams to make
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the playoffs again, probably. And then the Suns are at 70-1.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, if the Suns still have Booker and who
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: else do they have? If they still have those top
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: guys there that seem to be just injured all the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: time last year, I think there might be some value
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: for a real, real long shot. Maybe there's some value
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: taking the Suns and then hedging later on at 70-1.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: The Jazz at 80-1, because the Jazz have been hitting
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the draft board, man. They had the second pick in
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the draft this year, and they drafted... Peterson out of Kansas.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: It was considered, like, you know, which one of these
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: guys is going to go first between DeBansa and.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Or DeBansa, I mean. DePants.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe his pants will fall down on the court.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: These guys wear baggy shorts now. Between him and Darren Peterson,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and DeBansa went first. Peterson... I don't know, man. He
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: seems to have spurts where he just has mental lapses
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and seems like he doesn't want to play. We'll see
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: if maybe the right coach can help him out.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: We'll see. But one of the top draft picks, at least.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: He's a talented player. He'll be on the Jazz.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: And the Jazz had one of the top draft picks
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the previous year with Ace Bailey.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: He looked like he was starting to come around, too.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I like him.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I liked what he did in college at Rutgers, even
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: though it wasn't a good team.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this Jazz team... they're, you know, building their
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: way back up. They're at 80 to one.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I think the jazz might be a team that gets
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: into one of those seven through 10 playoff spots this year.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And they aren't like a complete doormat this year. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the odds makers are kind of telling you that will
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: be the case. Then after that, we have the Dallas
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Mavericks at 120 to one, um, you know, whatever they
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: got Cooper flag there. I mean, I don't know if
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I see a whole lot coming from the, from the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Mavs here. Uh, I thought people maybe have overrated that
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Luka trade, but still, I mean, the Mavs have not
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: been a great team, and I'm not expecting a whole
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: lot from them. And then we have the Grizzlies, 200-1.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: The Grizzlies had one of the top draft picks as well.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: They got Boozer, Cameron Boozer, the bigger Boozer brother out
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of Duke. So we'll see what he's going to look
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like with the Memphis Grizzlies on the interior. The Grizzlies
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: seem to have, do they even still have John Morant?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Because that guy's like a total head case. I think
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: he kind of ruins chemistry wherever he goes. Do they
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: still have him?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Where is he at now?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I should know because I handicapped this stuff, but you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: know me. I do scheduling dynamics play-by-play. He's on the Trailblazers, actually.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I think I knew that because I was like, they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: recreating the Jailblazers. If you remember back in the day
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: when they had Rasheed Wallace and whatever, and their moniker
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: was the Jailblazers because they had... like criminals on their
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: team whatever most of it was like pot though like
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: come on man that's that was wallace's thing and a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: couple other guys they did have a couple of actual
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: like real criminals on that team too though um which
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous but yeah the grizzlies may be adding by
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: subtraction by not having moranth though and maybe that should
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: make me like the portland trailblazers a little bit less
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: i don't know uh and then the pelicans 250 to
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: one Zion, I don't even know where he is now.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, he just hasn't stayed healthy. Is he even
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: still there? I have no idea.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: He seems, unfortunately, like he's kind of a bust. I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: think he is still there. I still have his Pelicans jersey.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I like Zion, but he just has never panned out, man.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And then the Clippers at 300-1, and then the poor
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Kings at 700-1. Kings considered to be one of the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: absolute worst teams in the league. Not really seeing a
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: whole lot from any of those teams there, of course.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Clippers lost Kawhi Leonard, whatever. But, yeah, I mean, you
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: got my thoughts, though, as far as the conferences. I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: think the value in the East is actually on the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Celtics as a team that can legitimately win that conference.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And I like the Thunder in the West to actually
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: get it back again over the Spurs. So that would
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: be where I think the value is line-wise. to win
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, to win the championship, the Spurs and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the Thunder are both at plus 270. So they have
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the best odds to win. Of course, they're both underdogs
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: against the whole field. To me, I do think that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: one of them is actually probably going to be the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: winner of it, though. I think that might still be
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: where the value lies there. And because I liked the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Thunder before, I probably like them to win the championship
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: as well, plus 270, to get that championship back again.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So I that would be kind of the way I'd
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: be looking is maybe to, uh, take the thunder at
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: plus two 70, the Sixers at plus 900. Like I said,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be a little bit overvalued
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in markets like this. The Knicks are also plus 900
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to win the whole thing, but because they did it
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: last year, they might be a little bit overhyped as well. Again,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I think there might be a little bit of value
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: on the Celtics at 13 to one, uh, just because
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I think people are overrating that trade and they're not
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: really understanding what the Celtics are actually trying to do here. Um, So, yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: there might be some value there. Cavs are at 22-1.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, we just haven't seen it from them.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: What can I say?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: They haven't even made it. They've fallen short of the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: conference final every single year. Or, no, they made the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: conference final this past year, right, and they lost to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the Knicks.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah, I think so.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Is James Harden still there, though? Because as long as
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he's still there, I just don't see it, man. Harden,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: notorious for never winning a championship. Yeah, he is still
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: there on the Cavs. And the fans are trying to
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: get him to shave his beard. I would say don't
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: do that. I think he looks really weird without a beard.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Weird without a beard.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Grew up watching him in college, kind of. So I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: pretty much just have that image of him with the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: beard the whole time. I think he has shaved it
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: off before, and it does not look right. So, no,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I think he should.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Keep the beard.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And then the Raptors and the T-Wolves are both a 25-1.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Actually, the Pistons and Nuggets... as well.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: All four of those teams are 25-1 to win the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: whole thing. You know, at that price, I don't really
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: see the Raptors doing it. I just don't really understand
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the pricing on them. But T-Wolves, Pistons, and Nuggets to
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: me all seem like maybe there's a little bit of value.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: The T-Wolves, again, the ball trade maybe overrates them a
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: There might be some value looking towards Pistons and Nuggets, though.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Pistons, remember, they were the top seed
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference last year So, you know, in
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: another year of experience, the Pistons might be somewhere in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: there in the mix. And then the Nuggets, you know, again,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: if they stay healthy with all that experience, they're a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: potential threat. The Heat are 30-1. I think they're a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: little bit overvalued with the Giannis move. Like, I don't
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: really see a whole lot there as far as them
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: actually getting that far and being able to win the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: whole thing, even at that price. And then Pacers, Rockets
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: are both 35-1. You know, I've already kind of talked
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: about where I think the value is with these teams.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: or isn't uh you know i think the rockets um
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: may get overlooked a little bit pacers may as well
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: this year just because they have dealt with injuries and
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: haven't looked good uh haven't looked good since they made
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that finals run the lakers are at what is that
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: 40 to 1 to win the championship i mean They
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: are the Lakers.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Luka with the Lakers. I mean, I don't know.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're getting a little bit undervalued there, but I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, because they are the Lakers and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: they have that name, maybe not really. Warriors are at 60-1.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Hawks at 70-1. And then the Blazers and Magic, 80-1.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: And then after that, once it gets to 101, I'm like, whatever.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: The Hornets are at 100-1.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Suns, 120-1.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: And then all the rest of these teams, I mean, yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: forget about that. Just too much youth and or not
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: good enough rosters there. But, yeah, I mean, I think
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the value might lie here, again, with.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Thunder, Celtics. You know, as extreme long.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Shots here, I'd say maybe the Nuggets, again, to be honest,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and the Rockets, just because of the composition of the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: team without star players, but a solid team, typically, they
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: get overlooked, so. Those are my thoughts on the NBA
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: season as.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Far as where the value lies. That's going to do it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Targeting NPC. Thanks for hanging out, man. A little bit
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of a bonus episode here. Figured I would do it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'll probably have a college basketball season preview. I really
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what the college basketball personnel looks like, man.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: With all the transfers and the NIL stuff, I can't
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: keep track of any of it. So for me, that
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: would just be going based on the odds and Maybe
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I could bring up a thing like which teams have
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a bunch of returning starters, but I seem to overrate
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: that because with the transfers, you can get some really
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: solid transfers, so it's not all about the continuity anymore.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: It's about that plus the amount of talent you're bringing
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: in as well.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: It's the transfer age, man. So that's going to do it, though,
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