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- 0:58Well here now is another episode of the Lineup where they redate a previous
- 1:03program. It's Tom for the Senile Slugging case from September twelfth, nineteen fifty
- 1:11one. Ladies and gentlemen, we take you now behind the scenes of a
- 1:15police headquarters in a great American city, or into the cold glaring lights would
- 1:21pass before us. The innocent, the vagrant, the thief, the murderer.
- 1:26This is the lineup. Then. Yeah, here's mister Wiggans. Now,
- 1:59how do if you are mister Wiggans better, I feel a little better.
- 2:01Well, we can sit right here. Thank you. It's it's all
- 2:06right. I'll see you lad him. Yeah, thank you, Sergeant nice
- 2:10telling. How many people do we have to look at I think that twenty
- 2:17eight or twenty nine. You've had two other cases like yours in the past
- 2:22week, picked up a couple of guys that might be possibilities, but we
- 2:25haven't been able to get positive out. Yea, I have your attention.
- 2:28Please you people out there on the other side of the wire in the audience
- 2:31room, may I have your attention? Please? Thank you. My name
- 2:37is Grab, Sergeant Matt Grab. I'll explain the lineup for you. Each
- 2:40of the suspects you will see will be number. I'll call up a number,
- 2:44the name and charge. If you have any questions or identifications, please
- 2:49remember the number assigned to the prisoner as I call his name at the end
- 2:53of each line. When I ask for questions or identifications, call out the
- 2:55number. If you're sure enough through short of the suspect him. How the
- 3:00officers have took your name? When the sister they're seated among you, please
- 3:05be pumped with your questions or identifications. When the prisoners leave here, they
- 3:08are sent to the washroom and dress back into their jail clothes. It makes
- 3:13it quite difficult to bring them back after they leave here. The questions I
- 3:16asked these suspects so many to get a natural tone of voice, so do
- 3:21not pay too much attention to their answers as they often lie. Bring on
- 3:23the line, okay, over and over, right, on over to the
- 3:29Sander stage, Spread out the stand facing the audience, and steal size and
- 3:34keep looking straight ahead when you answer the questions. Park ups. Are the
- 3:38people out there can hear you? It's a long way to the back of
- 3:40the room, so keep your voices up. Okay. Number one William Bushman
- 3:46robbery, Take your hands out of your pockets. Where do you live with
- 3:51him? One hundred and eighth and Lincoln. Where you're from? Los Angeles?
- 3:53How long you've been in the city? About seven months? I think
- 3:57January. There's about seven months. Were you arrested with anybody with him?
- 4:01Yeah? A couple of guys. What are the names? Joe? Joe?
- 4:06I don't know his last name? Yo, Lucas number eighteen? All
- 4:14right? Who was the other boy? Call him? Twitch? Come and
- 4:16Twitchell number nineteen? Any weapons with him? No? You have a car?
- 4:23No, he was walking. They had a car. Who wouldn't be
- 4:26here? Okay? Number two Max Sloan robbery, putting Max and east side.
- 4:33You have an address Avenger or eleven orchid sound? Were you were alone
- 4:39when you were arrested? I was with the guy I was sticking up.
- 4:43Was anybody arrested with you? No, I was pulling a job. We
- 4:47weren't sticking up each other. Any weapons, Max? Do you think he
- 4:51was giving me his walnut? Because I was pointing mc thumb had him.
- 4:56You want to be funny, We've got all night, Max. You can
- 4:58just stand there and be funny all night. Were there any weapons? Yeah?
- 5:04Two? They cool playing the blue steel, blue steel, not counting
- 5:10the rust. You have a car, okay, number three? Stanley,
- 5:16None of those men don't blaze any of mine. You'll have to speak up
- 5:20standing. I said, I don't live here. I'm from out of town.
- 5:24Where out of town? Wilmington? Wilmington, Kentucky. Can you people
- 5:29hear him back there at all? Right? Now, look, I told
- 5:30you boys, you're gonna have to talk up. I don't want to have
- 5:33to repeat the question, So come on and talk up all the way to
- 5:36the back of the room. Now, where are your front standing? Wilmington,
- 5:41Kentucky? Where have you been staying here? Only one place? One
- 5:45place in a flop house, w flop powers just a flop house. I
- 5:47don't remember who remembers a flophouse. Hi, Hi, mister Wiggins didn't spot
- 6:06anybody. Huh No, these two guys that jumped and did it so quick.
- 6:11Oh, this is a third slugging in a week. Somebody better come
- 6:14up with a halfway decent description. Those guys aren't stupid. Follow a pretty
- 6:18routine m O. Dark spots like an old guy like Wiggins jumping before he
- 6:24knows what's happening, beat him unconscious, and then rolling how much chances he
- 6:28got for a decent description. They're liable to kill somebody. They seemed to
- 6:31be getting rougher. Yeah, here's a list of wiggins valuables. See that
- 6:36all the pawn shops are coming. Okay, the other two victims didn't have
- 6:41much. These guys might want to hunt. Wiggins had a gold watch and
- 6:44old Stickton watch had his name and an inscription. I might try to get
- 6:48rid of him. We're in car thirteen Jade and I. Yeah, these
- 6:54boys move around, but they seemed to stay pretty much to the east side.
- 6:58We'll have the usual cause in five semalies. Walters putting about a dozen
- 7:01plain clothesman on the streets, I think if one of our boys got rolled
- 7:05and they're not old enough, these guys pick them old so they won't give
- 7:10him much trouble. Nice guys. Yeah, swell thy seven four fifteen and
- 7:30one o five North Lincoln, you get nine nine on five. Yeah,
- 7:34I have an old horner on the elm. Let's come a the Rogers and
- 7:38get a hamburger. Okay, sixty three and nine o five and seventeen sixty
- 7:42nine. He's right, man, he's seen a man bought me a hamburger
- 7:45and coffee. Would have been sure. Seventy three of already rights going well,
- 7:49license five two young seven. You know I don't two hamburger, took
- 7:56two hamburgers and two coffees. Everything on the burgers. Yep, thank you,
- 8:00m attention all you in this an area h A two four or five
- 8:05slugging an eighty seven west bullocks those handburgers eighty seven west, bully? What
- 8:13time it was slugging us? We about a block away? Ninety nine?
- 8:16You know, hold me here. It is client's already here over here.
- 8:41It's a woman pretty bad. Mm hmmm, good gosh. I've done everything
- 8:48I can. No here comes the ambulance. This is the fuller, the
- 8:52bounder. I miss it all. Yeah, this little tennant gutthree? Tell
- 8:56him about it? Oh? Yes, Well, I was walking by over
- 8:58on the side walking, tossed a cigarette over here and sauce about. Then
- 9:03I spotted this officer in this car and I yelled another slugging her. Yep,
- 9:11and she's not dead, but she's close. Get that blanket over her
- 9:13voice and all right, doctor, looks like a bad fracture. Really about
- 9:16him, lost a lot of blood. Thinks she'll making I don't know,
- 9:22keep that end up there, pretty old, lost a lot of blood.
- 9:24You're coming down with him? Hey, h we'll be done. I didn't
- 9:26have anything on her, no identifications, They got everything. Hey, you
- 9:31just found a lying here home, Yes, sir, that's right. I
- 9:35threw my cigarette over here. Wouldn't have even seen her. If I hadn't
- 9:39thrown my cigarette, it probably waited behind this hedge, grabbed her when she
- 9:43passed, slugged her and dragged him into the lapt It's a good spot for
- 9:48it, good and dark. It was a terrible thing. I still can't
- 9:52quite believe it. What are you gonna do about it? What do you
- 9:54think? Hello, lieutenant? That two forty five slugging that came in about
- 10:15a half hour ago. Who's gonna the old lady? Yeah, she's in
- 10:18surgery now the doctor Gordon support one this week, isn't it ten? Yeah?
- 10:22Your mind? If I look at your newspaper, Murph, No,
- 10:26no, no, go a here. Coffee shops closing, Yeah, well
- 10:30do you want some coffee? Could use some Wong doing down the kitchen.
- 10:33No, no, no, forget him, there's no truck. No,
- 10:35no thanks man, We'll get some across the street later. All right,
- 10:37hey, Ben, the tennis finals the next weekend. I want to go
- 10:43on duty. Well, they'll be praying the rest of this week. Yeah,
- 10:46i'd like to see that marine, Conny. That's pretty girl. The
- 10:48pictures in the last section is something yeah yeah in the sports section. Yeah
- 10:54right there, pretty girl. Huh yeah, I've been yeah, I want
- 11:03to go. Yeah, here comes doctor board with a doctor. I'm gut
- 11:09three doctor sixteen precinct. It was a sergeant Graham alone. How's the only
- 11:13lady? She died? Wasn't much we could do. She was pretty well
- 11:18gone when she came in. Come on, walk down with me. When
- 11:22I get out of this gun. I'm sure I'll see you later, Mark.
- 11:24Yeah, have you got an identification yet? No? Not yet?
- 11:30A finger princetal help did just about everything bad fracture, really bad one.
- 11:35When they're that bad, they don't stand much of a chance. She regained
- 11:39consciousness of any time by the looks of the wound. Whoever hit her hit
- 11:45her with something pretty heavy black jack, Oh, something like a pipe.
- 11:50Maybe really let her have it. I don't have some way these boys have
- 11:54been working. We've had three others. Not this band, cigarette, nothing,
- 12:00sangent, no, no things. I had to believe anybody would beat
- 12:05up an old woman to hit her that hid. It just doesn't make sense,
- 12:11and I guess it does. These other victims have much money on them.
- 12:16Add it all together, about twenty four dollars. I've been morning man,
- 12:41honey, No, no, just routine chef. Well, let's grab
- 12:45some coffee. Okay. Oh, I was just looking for it. Man,
- 12:56huh works on usself with fingerprints and an old lady, you gotta not
- 12:58enough. Yeah, we ran a check through and this is what we came
- 13:01up with. Woman's name is Stokes, missus Rebecca Stokes, that was of
- 13:05five eighteen Northope with the daughter Ash went over to get the daughter only the
- 13:09positive but downification. Asher was taking her right down on the morten. I
- 13:13thought maybe you'd like to talk to her first. Yeah, yeah, I
- 13:15wouldn't. Let's go. Her daughter's name is William Dunn. She was married,
- 13:20her husband killed in the war. Oh, Ashure wanting, lieutenant this
- 13:41is miss done, and this is Lieutenant Utherine insideant gret, how did it
- 13:45I mis done? Hello? We certainly wish we could eliminate all this was
- 13:50done, but it's necessary. I don't think I can go through with you.
- 13:56I don't think I can do it. Well, it's really necessary.
- 13:58She has to be identified by a relative. I just don't think I can.
- 14:03Well, it's your mother. We're sure that sooner or later you'll have
- 14:07to Well, sooner or later you'll want to see her, but not in
- 14:11here, please, not a care. We have to keep her here until
- 14:15we get a positive identification. Do you have any other family in Nevada and
- 14:20a cousin, Well, if they could get down here, they haven't seen
- 14:24marm and you. Your mother's a fourth victim in a week. We've got
- 14:28to stop these men. Well, need some information. Where was your mother
- 14:33going last night? I guess she was coming home. She went to a
- 14:37movie early one. I guess she was coming home. Did she have a
- 14:43press with her any valuable Yes, she had a purse. Can you remember
- 14:46some of the things she carried in her purse? Yes, I guess I
- 14:50can. It wasn't much, not much money, anything to identify her,
- 14:56some carts and feet. Does she have any jewelry, any rings or a
- 15:01watch? Yes? Yes, you had a wedding ring and an engagement ring.
- 15:09They worth worth a watch. I'm sorry, don't be I think miss
- 15:18Dune better go on home, Ash, you'll get a description the two rings
- 15:22and take home. She'll no, I'll do it. It's best to get
- 15:26it over with. I'll have to do it sooner or later. Well,
- 15:28look, maybe we can get some closer. No, I want to It's
- 15:35all right, okay, now look miss Dunne. If you don't want to
- 15:54go ahead, go ahead, all right, Jenny. How many times a
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- 16:48news. Keep in touch with CBS Radio News. Yeah you sure dealon king
- 17:21m hm Lovely's winning. Who do you think? No, can't use it?
- 17:37No? Uh huh no, uh uh m hm uh huh jin gop
- 17:52qrying do me a favor when you dropped dead or you couldn't discard the three
- 17:55picked one? Un't No, you owe me thirty cents. Wallos got a
- 18:00exiliaries tonight, ben you a matter in thirteen jag How about the police women
- 18:03guys gets five of them, there'll be in the area from tencil to one
- 18:07card in the block of them at all times. Okay, we got a
- 18:11half an hour once some dinner. Yeah, I'm getting hungry. Okay,
- 18:17wait a minute, have what this guy's right? It had to pick a
- 18:22check? Yeah yeah, put him on any one of the nine other cards.
- 18:26Yeah, how long mister Wiggins? Yeah, yeah, I remember wat
- 18:30you didn't wear eight ninety seven South Wilson. Okay, yeah, yeah,
- 18:37we'll meet you down about ten minutes. Right, That was mister Wiggins.
- 18:41He spotted his watch in a pawn shop and watched the hold up men took
- 18:45after they slugged him. There's mister Wiggins. Hello, lieutenant, Hello,
- 19:07where's the watch? Right over here in the window? There the gold one?
- 19:12It's open. See the inscription. Okay, let's go in. Yes
- 19:22please, Yes, I want to see a watch you've got in your window?
- 19:27They sure? Sure? Which one? Uh? Is that? When
- 19:33me? The gold one? Sure? This one? Is that it?
- 19:37Mister Wiggins? Yes, yes, that's it. See the inscription to Dave
- 19:42love Alice my wife. She gave it to me hot. Yeah, remember
- 19:48when you've got him? I got a ticket? Yeah? Yeah, John
- 19:56Jones six seven one time, John Jones. That's a good name. Do
- 20:00you remember what the man looked like, the man who want to watch?
- 20:04No? Do you remember when he acted? No? Why didn't you date
- 20:07the ticket? How long have you had it? No? A week?
- 20:11Maybe? What's so important about the watch? It belongs to this gentleman,
- 20:15not to the man who hated It's okay, take it ain't worth much.
- 20:18I saw the gold, solid gold? I a dozen? What's your name?
- 20:22Wagner? George Wagner. Look, I don't know nothing about it.
- 20:26This guy came in. He hard that that song. Look, mister Wagner,
- 20:29it's very important that we got a description of this man he's stolen.
- 20:32Huh yeah, and he's got a friend. We want him both for murder.
- 20:37Murder, that's right. Do you think you might know him he became
- 20:40in again. I don't know. I don't know him. Maybe I don't
- 20:44remember. You get one of these lists lists, Yeah, one of these
- 20:51mister stolen articles like that one. Oh boy, sure, sure sure I
- 20:53got one. None of these other things in your store? No, no,
- 20:56no, you sure sure. I'm sure you didn't know about watch.
- 21:00You better check. Look, I know I ain't got none of him.
- 21:03You didn't report the watch. You better check? All right? If if
- 21:07I find something, i'll call you. We'll wait while I check the whole
- 21:11in the door. Just the tickets on the last week and a half.
- 21:14Okay, we won't take him. Look at him too, Yeah, sure,
- 21:17okay, Look, officer, Yeah, I know the man that hot
- 21:22that watch, But honest, I didn't know he killed anybody. I didn't
- 21:26know. What's his name, young, Carl Young? He's hot things before.
- 21:30He's been in a couple of times. I know him from the neighborhood.
- 21:32I didn't His name's Carl, Yeah, Car, y'all the name of
- 21:36this watch is Dave. Well, he said it belonged to his brother.
- 21:38You know his brother? No, but I know him. He seemed like
- 21:41an honest guy in the neighborhood. I bowl he's in the bowling alley a
- 21:45lot. I bowled with him last Friday. Look, honestly, does he
- 21:49hang around with another guy? I seen him with another guy sometimes? The
- 21:53guy you better come on down to the stations danger the station? Why I
- 21:57praid you're in a little trouble. Yeah, I know him, Car young
- 22:11Oh, yes, he hangs out and here lie you know where he lives.
- 22:15No, what's hegain? Does he pal around with anybody? Oh?
- 22:18Yeah, he's with one girl quite a bit. He's a fellon in.
- 22:22Let me see know what the heck was that kind of a quiet guy,
- 22:25big guy, kind of John and Joe dot Gun. I'm sorry, I
- 22:29can't remove Anything's Joe Joe. Okay, let's stick around you let us know,
- 22:33Carl Younger. Joe comes in when sure Yan says he's got a dozen
- 22:45men checking the neighborhood. Men. There are four cars in the block.
- 22:49Nobody does anything unless you give the word. Okay, Well they both come
- 22:53in. We'll take him one of him. We'll tell him. Okay,
- 22:57that's three thirty. Now see that guy down there second alley? Yeah,
- 23:04what about he's both six strikes? M okay, oh fair one fifty so
- 23:23far you need a few strikes friends, Yeah, all right, try to
- 23:34pick up that sprint. Yeah, I will, Tenny, Yeah, what
- 23:38is it? That's so? I just came in there. Which one?
- 23:41That big one? There? I said to him, I said, there,
- 23:44Hello, Joe, he's sitting Hello, his name must be Joe.
- 23:48Where is he? He's upstairs THEO Come on, pony, mom, yeah
- 23:52up here, it's right up. Wait a minute, wait minute, hello
- 24:02jah? Yeah, how are you? That's him? Yeah, come on,
- 24:07man, he's out the street. Hold it. He's getting into a
- 24:18car, all right, come on. Here he goes and I stay with
- 24:26him. Thirteen J Code two suspect proceeding east on Fountain, license number eight
- 24:34oh Roger one one three five profession All units code to suspect pramling east on
- 24:42license number eight Old Roger one one three five. He's swinging limp thurteen J
- 24:48suspect turning north on Lincoln. All units an area B code two suspect proceeding
- 24:56north on Lincoln and don't get too close. He's stopping and pull up thirteen
- 25:04j suspect that three thousand block Lincoln. He's getting up in. All right,
- 25:08let's go going into that building. Hold it, We'll wait a little
- 25:18rest. The boys get here and there's Quine. Now he's in the building.
- 25:25Quine, you got to take it around back in the alley and there's
- 25:33ashe. Quine's taking the back Asher. We'll go in. You wait here
- 25:37for the rest. Spread him out, right, Lieutenant, all right,
- 25:38let's go man. Okay, how do we do it when we find out
- 25:41what apart when he went in, clear out the building and take him.
- 25:45Wait a minute, tail boxes. Uh yeah, let's ski busher writing see
- 25:51young two or eight. But if they're in the room, we can just
- 25:55clear out the rooms on both sides. We got the rest of the building.
- 25:57I'll take two or six. I'll take two ten, two four,
- 26:11two six, Okay, yes, sure, sure. So what I tell
- 26:21you, Carl, I tell you I know what I'm talking about. It's
- 26:26Damian, the dumbest no world. You'll be Ben. Yeah, that's Carl.
- 26:33You'll with the big boy here. Come on, it's better that way.
- 26:36I'll take him on the street. They're climbing into a car, holder,
- 26:42young Carlt's carl, watch it, Ben me sure? Oh a light
- 26:48way get down between us. Give it up, young budget. Ye'll bring
- 26:56it for the alley, Ben stop take this one. Are the Wine's tackled
- 27:08him all right? Quiney, Yeah, big boy wasn't as tough as he
- 27:21looked. Ah, he's been fighting no lace too long? The line up?
- 27:44Where before you passed the innocent, the vagran, the thief, the
- 27:48murderer. Listen next Wednesday when we again bring you the line up. May
- 27:53I have your people out there on the other side of the wire in the
- 27:59audience room. I have your attention to me. Thank you. My name
- 28:03is GREB Sergeant Matt Grabb. I'll explain the lineup from you. Each of
- 28:07the suspects you will see will be numbered. I'll call up a number,
- 28:11the name and charge. If you have any questions or identifications, please remember
- 28:15the number a sign of the prisoner and my coll The line up, starring
- 28:30Bill Johnstone as Lieutenant Ben Guthrie and Wally Mayer as Sergeant Matt Grabb, is
- 28:33written by Blake Edwards but music by Eddie Dunsteader featured in Tonight's cast were high
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- 28:42Virginia Gregg, Sidney Miller, and Bill Bouchet. The lineup is produced and
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- 29:41more intense and emotional episodes with that entire scene with the identification of the body
- 29:52and overall pretty uh good and well deserved captured to wrap up the show.
- 30:00All right, Well, that will do it for today. We'll be off
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