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Purple People Eaters: Vikings vs Atlanta Falcons Preview & Picks! Recap Ugly Win At Chicago! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings fans, welcome back to the Purple People Leaders podcast.
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  Speaker 2: He's thereon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Chris and Weird to talk about an ugly win
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. Haven't lost in Chicago since twenty nineteen. Those
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  Speaker 1: nightmares we used to get from a couple of linebackers
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of interior defensive linemen kind of gone
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  Speaker 1: knock on wood, knock on wood. We had some nightmares
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. I will say that it was ugly,
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  Speaker 1: but it's always ugly in Chicago for the Vikings. But
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  Speaker 1: they got the dub. It was a tale of two halfs.
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  Speaker 1: Could even say that with the offensive line and the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: The running game really opened up the passing game. The
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  Speaker 1: one two punch was fun to watch, you know, Mason
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  Speaker 1: getting it in. So we're going to recap last night's
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  Speaker 1: game and that victor. Let's not forget it's a divisional game.
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  Speaker 1: And then of course you know we do have you know,
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  Speaker 1: darrisad ended up not playing, Smith ended up not traveling.
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  Speaker 1: Cashman got banged up. Sounds like he's gonna be out
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit here. So we will talk this
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  Speaker 1: next game. Another night game, Sunday night against Hot Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: at home. We're gonna preview and predict that, and then
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  Speaker 1: of course talks and go for football and they have
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and bring in Aaron. Aaron Man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like we said, hey, we said they'd win
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  Speaker 1: by three. We were a little low, but the tail
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  Speaker 1: of two halves. Luckily we had the second half because
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  Speaker 1: it was an ugly start, ugly win. But nothing comes
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  Speaker 1: pretty on the road in Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems to be the way it goes. I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing well. It wasn't doing well about eight thirty last night,
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  Speaker 3: right sitting there, he just geeked up to watch the game,
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  Speaker 3: check out how JJ's doing. And it just seemed like
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  Speaker 3: the team was flat. And you know, you mentioned last
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  Speaker 3: week about the lack of preseason reps. I think that
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  Speaker 3: was a good point. That seemed to show everybody's tight.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like and just kind of out of sorts.
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  Speaker 3: And then you go back and watch some guys on
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  Speaker 3: the internet kind of replay that first half and break
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  Speaker 3: down the plays, and you had guys running crossing patterns
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  Speaker 3: into each other and all that stuff. And JJ was
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  Speaker 3: getting a lot of pressure and couldn't get the ball out.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, first NFL start was a thing,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll get into that. I know last week I
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  Speaker 3: didn't sound that great. We're working on a new recording
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  Speaker 3: system here, so hopefully this week while you're listening right now,
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  Speaker 3: I sound a little bit better. Apologize for that, but man,
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  Speaker 3: that was a tough game to watch, especially when you
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  Speaker 3: had some expectations. I thought I had to kind of
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  Speaker 3: continue to lower them and that first happens, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: take my own advice about about taking it taking it
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  Speaker 3: slow with McCarthy and everything, and man, I was really
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  Speaker 3: impressed at the end, but I almost gave up on
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  Speaker 3: the club. Chris about what halftime about nine five, I
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  Speaker 3: was just I didn't know what was going on. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't just McCarthy, it was the offensive line,
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  Speaker 3: it was the defense. It was just a slow goal
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  Speaker 3: and kind of a slog And yeah, you're right, Chicago
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  Speaker 3: is tough, and we always do have slog fest in Chicago,
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  Speaker 3: but this one was a special kind of what it
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  Speaker 3: had that continued for the whole game. Man, would have
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  Speaker 3: show we would have had for today?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, kidd, you know, come right out three and out,
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  Speaker 1: a couple three and outs there. They had a nice
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  Speaker 1: spot almost six minute drive, ten play touchdown drive. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we did follow it up after a couple punths. You know,
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  Speaker 1: with a seven play drive almost or seven yeah, seven
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  Speaker 1: play sixty seven.
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  Speaker 2: You know, at least we got something going. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, early on it really was funky.
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  Speaker 2: There was like, uh jj kind of tripped. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was gonna be a sack obviously, Well,
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  Speaker 2: he got sacked the first third, three and two, he
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  Speaker 2: got sacked, and then he got sacked. I'm third down.
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  Speaker 1: Again and I wasn't sure because he was rushed trying
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  Speaker 1: to get through the pocket and I wasn't sure if
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  Speaker 1: he was gonna run or or actually pass right there.
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  Speaker 1: But he fell and it didn't really matter. So he tripped,
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  Speaker 1: ended up, you know, getting a sack. And it was
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  Speaker 1: third and eight. We threw a short pass, uh to
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  Speaker 1: to Jenna to Jefferson. It was just just short of it.
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  Speaker 1: It was drop, but the ball was gonna be short anyway. Now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's set up a fourth and short and we
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  Speaker 1: would have went for it. But you know, they at
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  Speaker 1: least they got you know, a nice.
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  Speaker 2: Field goal there. But and then it was just you know,
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  Speaker 2: three play punt, three play punt, two play field goal.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing that stood out to me. So
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  Speaker 2: we couldn't be on that one little drive. We did
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  Speaker 2: have a turnover on downs and the defense after a while,
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  Speaker 2: they missed tackles, they missed some sacks, and then they
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  Speaker 2: tightened up for quite some time. But it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of funny how we got all these three and outs
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  Speaker 2: and then in two plays we go twenty eight yards
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  Speaker 2: in eighteen seconds. You know, it was like, well, what
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  Speaker 2: the hell are we doing here, Let's get a completion
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  Speaker 2: down the field like so that that gave me hope.
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  Speaker 2: Is like, okay, ten to six.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't thinking they were gonna score, not
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  Speaker 1: that they were gonna take a knee, but I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: thinking they were gonna score a field on that one,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously a nice long one obviously.
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  Speaker 2: But I did. At ten to six, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, dude, we played, you know, about as bad
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  Speaker 2: as we could. We We were like ohs five or
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  Speaker 2: os six at half, and I think it got oh
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  Speaker 2: eight on first down until we actually got one.
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  Speaker 1: It was zero and five at half. They were getting
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  Speaker 1: a ton of pressure, like you mentioned, and then you know, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we forced the three and out. Didn't even last a
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  Speaker 1: minute in that drive, and you're like, all right, we
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  Speaker 1: got the ball back and then it's a pick six,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that's I got, I get. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we had a we had a fifteen yard penalty. We'd
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  Speaker 1: run a little bit, but.
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  Speaker 2: When that pick six happened and it was seventeen to
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  Speaker 2: six man and then we followed up with back to
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  Speaker 2: back three and outs, you know, after.
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  Speaker 1: That pick six, like, okay, we need to go get
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  Speaker 1: a field goal here, and we need a field goal, and.
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  Speaker 2: We followed up with two three and outs.
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  Speaker 1: After that, going into that fourth quarter knowing that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the defense seems to have tightened up and at that
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  Speaker 1: point that's only ten points because you know, JJ threw
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, but really through three just not one to
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of a you know, it did kind
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  Speaker 2: of look like a zone a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I did hear a clip from the Manning Brothers when
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  Speaker 1: they do their little broadcast, and it kind of the
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  Speaker 1: coverage kind of fooled them right away a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's not excusing it, because he did look like he.
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  Speaker 2: Was owned in on it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, out of the break it looked like it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be fine, but dude broke on it. A
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  Speaker 1: former Viking, I believe now that I think about it,
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of popped in my head there. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he took.
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  Speaker 2: It to the house, and at that point, right I'm thinking, wow, dude,
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  Speaker 2: kind of like what you're saying, where you're like, okay, man,
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  Speaker 2: we got you know, one to build on, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get this stuff out. And and the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they after our two to three and outs, it's
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  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, there's an eleven play drive going on.
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  Speaker 2: It's six minutes long. I did. I was thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be twenty to six at least, but they
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  Speaker 2: missed the field goal, and after that things changed. But
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  Speaker 2: that picked six man to be down like that, and
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  Speaker 2: that ugly of a game, eleven points felt like a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of points.
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  Speaker 3: Then. Yeah, I mean, so you're saying there's a chance
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  Speaker 3: center in the fourth court. Yeah, you're right, man, Like
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  Speaker 3: just a list of the possessions. It's, you know, start
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  Speaker 3: the game, sack three and out, punt, sack three and
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  Speaker 3: out punt, next possession, you get a pass interference, you know,
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  Speaker 3: jj wus her. First down, you get a field goal,
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  Speaker 3: then you get a three and out punt and a
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  Speaker 3: bad punt at that then you get a holding penalty,
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  Speaker 3: delay game punt. That's when the doors coming off as
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  Speaker 3: the delay of games and timing and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You get a nice third nailor you know, at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the half, and you're thinking, okay, ten six,
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  Speaker 3: just like you said, it's like that, you're not, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we played like crap, We're down four points, you know,
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  Speaker 3: possibly you know, rally at halftime, come out and play well,
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  Speaker 3: and you get another roughing, get a roughing call, and
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  Speaker 3: then the pick six and it's six seventeen to six
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  Speaker 3: at that point, and you're just like, okay, let's I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I can keep watching this, you know
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  Speaker 3: about how you do it? How do you keep yourself
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  Speaker 3: away from the game so you can watch it later.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. Just at that point, I'm trying to text somebody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just like, you know, trying to just relax a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And then you get to the delay of game and
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  Speaker 3: the sack and punt again, and that's all the way
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  Speaker 3: through the third Right there, you get you know, feeling
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  Speaker 3: with a drop from feeling which is odd feeling, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: breeing out punt and we're onto the fourth quarter, and
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  Speaker 3: nothing looked good at that point. You know, it's seventeen
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  Speaker 3: to six. You haven't played well, you haven't shown anything.
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  Speaker 3: The bright spot of that so far would have been
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  Speaker 3: the defense, you know, holding them only seventeen points and
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  Speaker 3: Mason running you know, Jordan, Yeah, Jordan Mason's his name,
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Ran the ball well.
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  Speaker 3: But then they kept throwing Jones in there, and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: he's not kind of you know, keep running Mason and
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  Speaker 3: see if you can, if you can get back in
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  Speaker 3: this thing. And man, I'm telling you, I store my
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  Speaker 3: hair out. It was not happy. I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 3: JJ's just got to relax, calm down, hometown, first game,
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  Speaker 3: Monday night football. You know, all the great thoughts were
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  Speaker 3: going through my head at that point. But then you know,
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  Speaker 3: and then you give a ball wong drive and they
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  Speaker 3: miss a field goal to start the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there was a point where it's one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: ninety five yards, which isn't a lot, obviously, but one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five to seventy seven, right, it was like,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: we have seventy seventy yards going in the fourth, but
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  Speaker 1: like what and.
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  Speaker 4: You can't see any hope at that point. It just
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  Speaker 4: it looked like everything was just dead. It looked like
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't any hope for this one. Like you said, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's a learning experience.
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  Speaker 3: You're going through all the thoughts of what a choco
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  Speaker 3: it up to, and then the next drive it kind
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  Speaker 3: of gets you know, it kind of gets going. Mason
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  Speaker 3: gets a couple of runs, big chunks, kind of opens
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  Speaker 3: things up a little bit. Jefferson gets catch, and you're
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  Speaker 3: down in the red zone and you're thinking, Okay, if
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  Speaker 3: you're ever gonna mount a comeback, this is the time
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  Speaker 3: to do it. JJ drops back, hits Jefferson in the middle,
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  Speaker 3: drops in the end zone. You know, now you're you know,
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  Speaker 3: twelve seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, there's a play right before that. Not to
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  Speaker 2: cut you up, but it looked like I think it
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  Speaker 2: was nailor that was coming open and the dude knocked
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  Speaker 2: it down.
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  Speaker 1: But I was like, shit, that was our touchdown chance.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great throat by JJ though tight window, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 3: And then there was one in there also where Jefferson
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  Speaker 3: could have caught it. It was a high ball, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hands to her, you know, but catchable, but a tough catch, right, ye.
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  Speaker 3: But you get the Jeff Jefferson touchdown. A little bit
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  Speaker 3: of life read a little bit of life. You fail
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  Speaker 3: the two point conversion, Okay, you know, so so it goes.
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  Speaker 3: But to that point, Chris, then it's up to the
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  Speaker 3: defense to start this thing. Start the ball roll and
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  Speaker 3: they get a sack, get a three and out punt,
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  Speaker 3: and now you think, you're starting to think if you
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: can get this thing keep going and you can still
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  Speaker 3: maybe get another touchdown, you're in this game with the lead.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, that's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that like an eighteen yard run, seven
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  Speaker 2: yard run, like Mason really like he does have that
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  Speaker 2: speed and he can juke you out a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's hard to find. And he's what twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: twenty six something like that. He's right in his prime.
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  Speaker 2: So when we made that, you know, he made that trade.
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  Speaker 2: I liked it a lot. But now that you see.
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  Speaker 1: Him, you know, change the pace, but also just what
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  Speaker 1: fifteen twenty pounds bigger and just fresher legs or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and almost put some pressure on Jones because then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden he started producing some runs, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, here we go, Like I
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  Speaker 1: like this little one two punch. I liked it, you
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  Speaker 1: know earlier, but because he came right out after that
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  Speaker 1: three plays negative nine yards for them to make it
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: twenty to seven or twenty to seventeen on that drive
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  Speaker 1: that touchdown. Only three plays but nine yard run right
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  Speaker 1: out the gate. You know we did get well we went. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was that pass where I went through his hands,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, the deep pass the Jones and I
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: know JJ quarterbacks are always like this where he's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I would have loved to put that out there for
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  Speaker 1: him so he could make it easy catch, but he
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  Speaker 1: came back for it. And Jones, you know, he is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that coming out of the backfield, man, he
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  Speaker 1: can really you know, he's done that a couple of times,
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  Speaker 1: not always for touchdowns, but just in general. He's really
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  Speaker 1: good out of the backfield. So you can kind of
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  Speaker 1: pick and choose when he's got it going. And then obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, knock on wood. You know, more than likely
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  Speaker 1: he'll get banged up. He's a running back, he's older.
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  Speaker 1: But that was a great just a great play. Puts
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on that linebacker, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen that in years past. I remember back in
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the day, people getting all mad at bar playing the
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Rams on the road. It's like, dude, you can't ask
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  Speaker 1: a guy all day long, no matter who it is.
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  Speaker 1: Ray Lewis included at times that you know that that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Something you're gonna you know, actually like depend on and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But we did kind of get lucky
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  Speaker 2: on that PI. It did look like Naylor fell down,
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  Speaker 2: but that's the way it goes. The two point conversion
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  Speaker 2: was good with Theling. It was nice to see Thling, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, like you said, thelan had that that catch where
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  Speaker 1: he grabbed it and the dude just ripped it out
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  Speaker 1: of it. And to me, you know, some of that
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  Speaker 1: is just the fine tuning, and maybe Jefferson not you know,
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  Speaker 1: practicing that much during camp, maybe he needed to get
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: some of that stuff out in that next drive. So
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  Speaker 1: it's twenty to seventeen to the next drive. Five plays, eight yards.
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  Speaker 2: That's that play that we talked about before we hit
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  Speaker 2: record where million Williams Caleb Williams stepped out of bounce
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  Speaker 2: so counted as a sack and Theo Jackson put a
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  Speaker 2: nice hit on to make it third and fourteen, and
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  Speaker 2: then oh Man we're gonna talk Wilson. Our special teams
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  Speaker 2: was phenomenal yesterday we did. You know, Wilson got the
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  Speaker 2: block on that.
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  Speaker 5: On that punt and then you know, you got the
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  Speaker 5: lead all of a sudden, you got a lot of momentum,
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  Speaker 5: and you know seven twenty four left up three Mason
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  Speaker 5: breaks another twenty yard run and whether he's quick or
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: he's breaking tackles, and also the old line, it was
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  Speaker 5: coming together.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: You know, no Darrisaw and also you know some of
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: those at least our center, I think took a little
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: while to get back from his injury last year, Like
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: they all haven't really played together all that much, especially
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: live reps, but just in general, you know last time
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: or last last episode, we thought Dearrisaw was gonna play
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and then he didn't play. So it did take a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: little I still think they're gonna mesh here in the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: coming weeks.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of a theme of what we were
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: talking about with the record, how we could be a
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: better team going to the playoffs once we get it
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: all together and JJ getting it all together. But you know,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Hawk made a nice little uh short, you know catch
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: for a first down and he blocked that's one of
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the best blocking games I've seen out of Hockinson.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's kind of hit or miss with that, but
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to you know, to have a nineteen yard run, nine
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: yard pass, another good little run. You know, Jones got
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: another pass for eleven yards, and Jefferson got us really
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: close on a third and one at the fourteen and
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: then the ideal.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Time for ko C to call that play.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: And one thing that we've talked about JJ he's not
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a guy that's.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Gonna run, run, run, run, run, but he's more than
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: capable of doing it. That's something he did at Michigan
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and something we talked about, you know, the third down
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: in either manageable or long. He was really good at
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that at Michigan.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Another thing he was great at was timely runs, whether
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: it comes off of hey, they're leaving it open, I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: gonna go, or a full on, hey you're gonna have
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: an option here, run pass option. It was a airin
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: a perfect time to call that play.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And the second I saw that and hesitate, you knew
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and how Hockinson was already up at that second level,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you basically knew he was getting in.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as Hackinson could hold the block, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: like you said, he had been blocking fairly well throughout
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the night. But you're right about the offensive line as well.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I mean there's essentially four new guys. He had Skulls
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: left tackle filling in for Darsop, and then you had
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the rookie Donovan Jackson at the guard position, you had
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Kelly at center, and Fry's at the other guard. That's
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: four new faces on the off offensive line saving you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Brian O'Neil there. So, yeah, it's gonna take a little
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: bit of time for that to gel and and it
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: certainly haddened up until right around this time in the fourth.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, may that drive there was kind of the
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: one that you're like, Okay, this is what it's supposed
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to look like. Mason with the runs, Hockinson with the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: ketch Jones out of the backfield. That seems like everybody
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: was in the places that they needed to be. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: then you get down to the in the red and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: you write about that play. I guess he had run
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: it at Michigan and run it a bunch of times,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: so it's probably one of his favorite plays. And the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: read option you right as soon as you saw the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: end crash New he's gonna get yardage, and as long
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: as Hockinson made that block, you know, he could get
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: in the end zone. So it was you know, as
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: you're watching that play, it's like, okay, you got through
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that first level.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Now that it's in and he.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Just beat a linebacker into the end zone and then
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you're like twenty seven seventeen. You know, I don't There
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't much time left to think six minutes or something,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: so there was time, but the momentum was clearly in
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: our favor at that point. Surprisingly enough, after sitting through
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: that first half, and you're starting to see, Okay, this
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: is the kind of JJ stuff that we're talking about.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: You know, Grid being able to not go in the dumps,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and you know, I was really watching his demeanor in
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that first half, just going, Okay, how's he handling it?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Nerves?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Is it? You know?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of it might have been nerves
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: from both him and O'Connor are just unfamiliarity and not
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just that first game, and it's it
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: sucks that it's Monday night in front of a national
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: audience and Joe Buck and Troy Aikman and both the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Mannings and everybody else in the world. But man, at
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: that point, you're like, all right, I see it now,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I get it. I get what's going on. I get
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: how this works. And you know, after the game you
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: learned some things from O'Connell about what he said to
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Jig at halftime about how he's going to bring us
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: back to win this game.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And that was before the pick six.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And you know, the pick six was the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: low point.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It really was. I was, well, was it like back
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to the drawing board?
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Great? Yeah, and it's even coming out after that after
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the half. You know, it's just it was. It was tough, man.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: And so then we get to another point here, Chris,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: where you're up twenty seven to seventeen and Caleb Leeds
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: a drive right down the field basically a touchdown, finishes
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: it with a touchdown pass short touchdown pass to Roma
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Dunesday when you could not tackle. I think we got
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: one sack out of possibly seven sack possibilities throughout the
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: course of the game, and that became frustrating you and
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I we used to lament. If you listen to this
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: podcast back twenty nineteen, twenty twenty ish, Yeah, that was.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: The year that's our that's the year that the deep
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and started showing. You know, it started to unravel a
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Mitch Trubisky would beat us with his legs because we
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: just you know, Zimmer's defense and you couldn't you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: watch your griffin.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Couldn't put somebody on the mat or you know whoever.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You couldn't cover a guy. And also, you know, get
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: the quarterback as he's getting out of the ends of it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, Williams is a whole different animal from TBI.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, from that standpoint. Yeah, so you know, you knew.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Probably they're gonna have something in him to come back,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: but to come back with a touchdown and leave two
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: or two on the clock, you're out by three at
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: this point. You get the ball back and now it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: time to do clock management. And if you can't get
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: a first down, I would have been the optimal the
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: thing there is to get the first down. But I
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: thought they round the clock really well, left them with
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: light I don't know, nine seconds left at the end
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: of right. Uh, and that was a wrap but it
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: was Ah. It was a roller coaster ride in Soldier
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Field Christ and I'm glad we came out on top
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: of that, I thought that it showed a lot of
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: heart and you know, had let's say, you know, McCarthy
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: been steady throughout that whole game and that was still
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the outcome, I think that it would have been a
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: good thing. But it really showed a lot that you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: he had to pick himself up and pick the team
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: up because it wasn't just McCarthy. Everybody was playing like
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: crap that first Yeah, just really was a stink fast there.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: And then to pick him up and to get him
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: gone and to come back and beat Chicago on the
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: road Monday night, heck of road to start the season.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Heck an accomplishment.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know there obviously, like you said, there
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was some good and bad and and and also they
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: talked about you kind of see this a little bit,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: but they talked about how, you know, koc said, they
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: were like doing all these blitzes that they've never done.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They were doing all sorts of stuff. And sometimes it's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: almost like.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Like a.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Like a power team in college football, power four team
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: going against a smaller team that's really good. Well, they've
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: had all off season and they're just scheming, scheming for
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: this one little game. You know, and we're gonna let
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it all hang out. And so that was part of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it too. They were just bringing so much. But also
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you know, both teams were three of twelve on third down.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Obviously we got like I said, to oh to nine,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so we did start.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: To tighten that up.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Only fourteen first downs compared to twenty not a great look.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't like the seven rushing first downs a little
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: bit too much there. We only had forty nine plays
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: off in two fifty four, so we got out gained
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and WHATNOTO both had the exact same amount of drives,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: thirteen drives. And you know, whether it's jj being a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: little late with some balls, whether it was some drop balls,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: whether it was the pressure. It could have been like
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty something like that, maybe sixteen to twenty
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: instead of thirteen to twenty had he gotten the ball
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: out earlier, or there wouldn't have been a drop. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, they did have success running. But some of
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that was the first half, and I guess you could
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: say on that, you know, the second and last drive too,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: but some of that was just Williams was really in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: tone not to hold the ball too long and instead
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: of scrambling trying to make a great play. He's just
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: gonna go get a first down. And so I did
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: think they ran the ball for a while pretty well,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: but then flow put a stop to it, and then
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: we got.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Our running game going.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And when you look at you know, like the fourth
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: quarter in general, we did give up that touchdown, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they hadn't scored in a while, especially.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: A touchdown obviously. I mean it was like six straight
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: third down stops from the Vikes that you know, we
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: had too many penalties eight but they had twelve. That
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: was a big difference maker.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: But when you look at it, first half rushing stats
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: thirty five, second half eighty four.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I mean that was big. And there was a moment
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: under three minutes left it was one sixty four to
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: minus six. When we're talking about drives, and you know.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: We had three straight touchdown drives and it was kind
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: of just all purpose, but a lot of it just
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: had to do with everybody calming down, but also just
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: getting that run game going, because then Aaron, you did
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: see that play action, there was some hesitation from the outside,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you know, players, even the linebackers, whatever. It was just
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that little glitch hold on are they gonna run in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a couple of you know, we got a lot of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: protection just off that if you get your run game going,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you're not always going to do it. I did, like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you know, that was a good test, right because we said,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: all right, now it looks like we've improved and we
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: have more of a running game, potentially, is he gonna
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: use it?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what it did. And if we wouldn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: have started running like that, I don't think we moved
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the ball like that. I really don't.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But overall, to your point, you know, the defense started
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to tighten up. Six tackles for loss, three hits on
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the qb which it is tough to get a hit
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on them.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: They did get three sacks, but one of them was
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: him stepping out of bounce when he could have just
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: thrown it away.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: So it's really just two sacks, and one of them
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: came late too, so to your point, it basically was
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: just one.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: On the flip side, they did have same amount six
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: tackles for loss. They did have five PBUs two of
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: them at the line of scrimmage, and they did they
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: were getting hits on the quarterback a little bit, five hits,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: but you know, as we know, five hits is a
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: good game for our offensive line.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Were used to double digits. So the clash fourth quarter
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: all around, and you know, Smith didn't Harrison Smith. You know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it's very hush hush what's going on with him. It
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: might be a health issue, it could be you know,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: who knows, Maybe it's gout, you know, who knows. I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just kidding, but who knows. Something's going on with him.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Didn't make the flight darrisaw. Hopefully he gets back here
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: in the next week or soon. But Cashman did have
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a hamstring, got a little banged up. But I definitely
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I highlighted Wilson. Welcome back Wilson because he made plays
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: even at you know, when Cashman went out, but also
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: special teams. Price, the rookie Price, a bunch of return yards,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: looking fast, fitting in.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: With his team. We know for years now we've had
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: a great locker room and that's not going anywhere, that's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: for sure. And then the kicker, you know, I think
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: he tied the record for the longest in Soldier field.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: So you got Wilson blocking a punt like kind of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: partially blocking it, Price going nuts, and then the kicker kicking.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So all together complimentary football. It's something that we've wanted
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to talk about for years. Our defense was such a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you know, in the tank for those from like twenty
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: twenty to like twenty twenty three. It was a little
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: rough these last two years now, well last year especially.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: We made a jump in twenty three. But now that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you know Flores has more to work with, it's a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: different ball game. I thought Redman played pretty well Hartgrove.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I liked his little kick.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: He couldn't really get his whole kickup like Hunter because
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: he's a little bit different body type. I'll say that,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: but I mean his first.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Game, five tackles, two sacks, a QB hit, It just
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: really doing his thing man. So but Wilson Price and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the kicker, Wow, that was something man, and we needed
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: all those damn yards, you know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was something that you know, added to the
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: misery too of that the beginning of the third when
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Cashman went down. So last year our defense was completely
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: different with Cashman and without Cashman, and that's where Wilson
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: came in, and I thought he played really really well
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: in that spot. I'm not going to say he was
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: better than Cashman, but I understand why they picked him up.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: His speed, he's rangy, he can cover, he can do
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the things that Cashman does, which doesn't leave us in
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: that spot anymore of like, well, you know, one defense
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: with Cashman, one defense without. I still don't know, Chris.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I don't have a great beat on the cornerback room
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: at this point. Yes, over that last week, and I
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: know I saw Kuda out there. I saw the guy
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: from Philly. He had some good plays and not some
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: good plays. Obviously uh Marie Murphy was there. But yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, if that's the three that you're starting, a
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Kuda he showed up. I didn't see him make a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: great play. I saw him get beat a couple of
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: times and a miss attackle and also make a tackle.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: So there, that's still a bit of a mystery. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: thought defensively, the defensive line was good. I believe I
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Drake Redriguez made a big play ye in some real
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: time now, which was a little bit of a surprise
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to me. Redman was there. I think that's a big
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: step up in it. But darrisaw gone and and and stuff.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I thought the lines were good. Let the offensive line
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: jet a little bit, Let everybody get healthy, get back
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: on that line defensive line. The rotation was good. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: thought that was that was important. Alan made a couple
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of plays and then you're at Hardgrave, really and I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: think throughout the year, each guy is going to have
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: a different game where they show up dependent on you know,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: the body type and and what what kind of offensive
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: line they're going up against. I thought, you know, linebacker wise,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: gink was gink almost ginked it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: He almost. I don't know why they keep doing that
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: around Did you throw that ball?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand why you would why he would
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: call that play with kink call on the field.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Did you watch any tape of this guy's career? And
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: so Dallas Turner as well.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I mean defensively, you're right, they shut down the run
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: and once they did that, things got a little bit
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit easier. Swift had kind of a fun
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: first quarter there and then uh, like you said, Flores
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: shut the door on that and make kill him throw
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the ball. You're right, he he's not being as improvisational
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: as he was last year, although with pressure he does
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: get out of the pocket. And you got to watch
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: him on those sidelines because he makes those passes that
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: just drive you on those sidelines. As long as he
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: don't step out right and you got to just hit him.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't hit him, he's going to throw
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: the ball. So he's he's going to get some penalties
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: on that. But you're right, he's just getting rid of
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the ball, quicker and more decisive. So we're gonna see
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: him a lot. I know, the handshake at the end
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: of the game, JJ and him look like, yeah, we're
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna see a lot of each other ten
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: years of our lives. So this is kind of opening
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: salvo as far as that goes. But yeah, I mean,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: special teams was huge. Miles Price was a big surprise.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Big the fact that he could hang on to the
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: ball with some of those hits he was taking. You
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: just like the ball pop out, you know. And then
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: ty Chandlers found a place I guess for the time
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: being in special teams and kick return. So that's good.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Uh that was a funny play too, where everybody's looking
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: at Koc.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Should I take it out? Yeah?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know, I think he told him to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: keep an eye on him.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a smart play you might as well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, making it really smart.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, save a timeout or made them use one one
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: of the two human at warning.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean offensively. You know, I had, like
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, had the fourth quarter been like the
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: first three, we'd have a lot of a lot of
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: question marks, and then during this show there would be
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a lot to say about what the.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Hell is going on here?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: But you know, it turned out score wise to be
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: a pretty basic you know, Soldier Field Viking Bears game.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Bears fans took it pretty hard. I can understand that
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: it's it's not it's that's not a good spot to
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: be and I think we've been there before his Vikings
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: fans exactly, so I'm not losing too much sleep over that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, good game. You talked about JJ a little bit.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: You know, it's such a roller coaster yesterday Chris that, Yeah,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I'm happy for him. Yeah, I thought, you know, he's
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: a dog. I thought he pulled out the wind there.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I thought he had a lot to do with the
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: momentum change. But I think everybody, and I have to
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: take anything away from JJ, Anda's play was very impressed,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: but I think everybody just kind of got their shit together, Chris,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: which just kind of helped you know everything as far
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: as how that game went, and we'll see coming up here.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: We got Atlanta, but we'll see how that ball keeps rolling,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: because it's momentum like that, you know, when you finally
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: turn that corner and everybody kind of gets on the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: same page and it's sort of what it seems like
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: it was real good things can start to happen.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, it was. And just like it
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: wasn't all his faults. Sure, you can point to a couple.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Of passes that he didn't get out on time, or
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: maybe he shouldn't have tried to step too far in
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: the pocket and just get rid of it and he
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: ended up stumbling or whatever. We get wet. We can
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: play some fingers at him.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Sure, but it was it was pretty much everybody even
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you know this this nasty defense we got. They looked
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a little shaky early too. So yeah, and like we said,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the run game, man, once that run game going, it
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: opened up everything. And you know in the NFL, man,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: if you got a fairly clean pocket, good things happened.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, you could really tell that he was
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: he was coming together, and like I said, there was
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: still some plays left on the field. Like they had
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: two knockdowns right at the line of scrimmage. Now luckily
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: you know the next player two plays later or whatever.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: We got.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: We got it to Jefferson on that low pass, really
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: good pass. But you know there was something something to
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: be said about just in general doing it. But you know, uh,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: just looking at the number of snaps.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Oh excuse me out there, Levi Drake Rodriguez to get
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: twenty snaps.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Akuda had six and he had a head injury. Now,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: whether that means they're just they were playing it safe
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: or he's in the concussion protocol or whatever, we'll see
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: if he'll get back in time. Redmond had thirty two.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Uh snaps. Pace had forty seven. But there was a variety.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought Isaiah Rogers and Murphy played pretty well.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You're talking about corners. I thought they made some good tackles.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I thought they made some some key tackles.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: When we needed that. There was a wide receiver screen
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that was kind of Williams kind of threw a behind
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: his receiver, but it really didn't matter because what's this
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: thows Rogers was there.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: No matter what he would he would have wrapped him
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: up even if it if he did. It was a
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: good throw, So you know, they just we got to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on a kuda as far as that goes.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Rot If you look at Mason had thirty snaps, Jones
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: had twenty eight, Oliver at twenty seven, and you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Naylor played pretty good and he you know, he drew
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: some some coverage as well, so he's getting a little
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: bit more comfortable. And like I said, we do have
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: some injuries going into this that they may come back.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: We don't know. I'm assuming, you know right now, Cashman,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: they have questionable. If it's a hamstring and he didn't
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: come back in the game, I don't see how he's
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: gonna play akudo. It's his head. But it says questionable.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: We're so early in the week. It really hurts us
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: For them, Mooney is questionable with the shoulder.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Offensive tackle Nelson, so they got Agnew their wide receiver.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: They got some guys out as well. I mean, it
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: is football, after all, you know, coming to Atlanta, we're
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: back back at home. And last year the Falcons put
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: up one hundred and fifty eight rushing yards on us,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: which is too much. Obviously, you know, you can get
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: by somewhat with that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: In college football, if you're playing a rushing team and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: they average, you know, over two hundred yards and you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: keep them one to fifty eight, that's not that bad
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of a deal. But you don't want to give up
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that many yards. So you got to at least contain
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the rush attack. And the thing about Pennix, you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and they have o line issues for one, and we
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: saw that kind of slowly play out as that game
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: went on last year and as their season went on
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: last year. But Pennix, you know, if you look at
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: like the Washington Texas game, and you look at the
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Texas or the Washington Michigan game, and you know, of
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: course you want to pressure quarterbacks, but you can't pressure
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like Williams. You can't just bring a bunch of pressure
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: on him because he'll juke you out too, So you
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: can't bring the same that's more content aiming him and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: keeping him in the pocket. But the more pressure you
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: get on Pennix, he can be a very I mean,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: he's got a great arm, he can be very accurate.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: But the second you start getting some pressure on that guy,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: there are some times he's still young in his career,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: he does have weapons throw to not saying he's you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: just pressure him and it's game over. He's a gamer,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: but you know that is a key. You gotta get
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: some hits on him. You gotta have him force it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Then he can't you know, throw that pretty ball that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: he has and really step into the plays.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: They had a close game. You know, they come in
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: here zero to one.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: They had a you know, a pretty close game themselves.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Right now, we it open at three and a half,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: We are at four and a half right now minus
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: four and a half. Forty four and a half is
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the over under. And just talk betting in general, the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Falcons are zero in six against the spread as an
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: underdog over the last six games in Minnesota. As the favorite,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: it are nine and one in the last ten games.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And like I said, they had a They lost twenty
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: three to twenty as a point and a half underdog
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: against Tampa, so you know we had to grind it
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: out too.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: We were a favorite by one and a half, they
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: were an underdog by one and a half, and.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Both of them that twenty three twenty was our score
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: actually that we thought.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Now Tampa was able to really contain their run. They
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: only got sixty nine yards rushing. They gave up pretty
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: close to what you know, the stats this early. You know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you don't want to dig too deep into it, but
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: you know they have a defense. They definitely do. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: would say the biggest thing is you can't give up
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: another buck on the ground. That helps any quarterback, but
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: especially a young guy who really does have a potential
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: to be a damn good quarterback. But like I said,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: in college and even last year, a little bit, if
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you can get to him, you know, it does make
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a big difference. He's elusive, but you know it's more
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like he can scramble within the pocket.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: It's a totally different ballgame than some of these guys
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: you know that can really run and you just have
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: to hold on for dear life at times, and like
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: like I said, kind of keep them in the box
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and take your lumps as they come. But yeah, I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: just think the biggest thing is and it's tough to
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: get pressure on the quarterback. If you're giving up rushing yards,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you're gonna run blitz and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: that can cause all sorts of problems.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: So and I did notice, you know, Flores wasn't heavy
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: on the blitz at the start that game in the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: first half. Then second half he started, you know, pulling
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: him up a little bit more. But like I said,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: different quarterback, different blitzes. But yeah, that Buck fifty eight
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: just stands out. Man.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of yards to give up in the NFL.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a good running back too. I mean, b
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Jon Robinson is the kind of back that we have
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a hard time with. Get right in panis another year.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: You know, I think you're right about pressureing him. He's
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: a damn good quarterback. Another one of the drafteesh in
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: McCarthy's draft. So going down a list of those.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting looking back at that in like five years.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. This game, Chris, it's at home.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Uh so that'll be like, you know, McCarthy's first home game.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: It would probably be a lot of energy in the
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: building for that. Uh. You know. Defensively, you're right about
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: floors and the blitzing. I think he probably went into
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: that game thinking, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: gonna need to but it weren't really getting pressure with
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: the four and that was cause of problems. Uh, And
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: you're right you don't really want to run blitz, especially
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: uh if a guy knows how to get the ball out,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: and Pennis is good at that at times. Phoenix can
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: also run a little bit. He's been injured a lot,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: but uh still move a bit defensively, right, they have
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: a defense, but you know, we have a lot of pieces,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: and you know, we're two games away from Madison being
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: back to where it's just going to be the full
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: complement of of weapons.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: But we still have a.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Lot of weapons. So do they have enough to cover
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: you know, all the guys we do have, now, that'll
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: be tough for them to do. Offensive lines gotta gel
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a little bit better, and we got to run the football,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: uh better than we started off that game, that being
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: the Monday night game, another Sunday night game, so now
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: we're back at night again. Yeah, I thought that the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: the points spread a little low. I think forty four
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: is when I want to take the over on.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I just feel like the balls rolling now with the
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Vikings and once that gets going with O'Connell and at
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the run game and Jefferson and everybody gets going, you know,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: at thirty is not out of the question. Every game, No,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: matter who you play, as long as j Jacob throw
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it around, and he seems to be able to do that,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I want to say, I thought you broke down the
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: game pretty well as that. A lot more I can
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: add to it, I'll give you my I'm saying twenty
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: eight to twenty three. I think it'll be closer. It'll
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: appear closer than it actually is. I think we'll probably
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: be protecting a lead in the fourth, hopefully this time.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: And you know that's the way I would like it
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: to go, and I think it will go that way. Yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go twenty eight twenty three. There's a
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: lot of variables with this one to Chris, and I'm
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: not going to go and you know, illustrate all of them.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: But I think that you know it's a home game,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: we'll pull it out. I think that time is gonna
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: be the thing, like it's going to be a slow
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: start again for mccarthur to get going. You know, that
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: could hinder the points a little bit. But defensively, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: think that's gonna be kind of the calm card when
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: things get rough. You'll be able to lean on the
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: defenses year more or as much as you did last year,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: and you know it's gonna be a slow build. But
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: you know, we think that this first part of the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: schedule is a little bit walking, and it is with
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: all the travel and the buy and all that stuff.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: But other people think it's this is the easiest part
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: of the schedule. And you know, it's hard to tell
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: in the beginning of the season how schedule is going
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to go because teams.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: So it's really last year.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: You know, it's real early to say the strength to
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: schedule here in all reality, but yeah, I like the
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: vikings here again, go to and zero. I'll go twenty
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: eight twenty three.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I am right kind of how you described it, how
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I could see a late touchdown. I'm in that twenty
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: seven twenty three, but the one I circled was thirty
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to twenty four. And when it kind of peaked my
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: ear when you said we can hit thirty, whether it's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty three or thirty twenty four or what'd
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you say, twenty eight twenty three, I think that is
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: a late score because I do think we're gonna be
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: playing with the lead.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm right there with you when it comes to that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I think there, you know, it could it could look
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: closer on the scoreboard.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: But in the end, who really cares what happens.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, if you've been listening to the show for
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: quite some time, much appreciated. If you haven't, we do talk.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It's it's Minnesota football, Okay, it's not just the Vikings.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: The Gophers are back. They're gonna go to the West
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Coast at cal will Cox is a very good.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Coach, very underrated coach.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, last week they played a team that,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: funny enough, beat al Kern State.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: They had they had beat a team and it was
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: like thirty five to zero at the end of the
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: first quarter, you know, so I think he said he
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: had and you know, there was lightning delay. There was
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: gonna be some you know, there's gonna be some stuff
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: that I liked how they said the other seven minutes left,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: d it's over. Let's just call the game. Seventy six
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: players played for the Gophers.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Washington the young buck running back, true redshirt freshman. He
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: got the bulk of the carries, but a bunch of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: different people scored touchdowns. I mean right off the bat,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a pick six in a scoop and score like it
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: was just crazy. But that's exactly what that game's there for.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: That team did get five hundred thousand dollars, so it
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: does keep their program going.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I liked how you know, we got Shick in there,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: a little Chicken Zanski and a lot of people that
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: are young just hearing this name for the first time.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: But you know, shit goes back with the Minnesota basketball
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: squat is Pops, So I was it was kind of
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: good to see who was the backup because you know,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: you just never know knock on wood obviously, but so
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you know, got a bunch of players they played.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Everything's great. Now we're at Cal and and you know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: at the at the beginning of the year, I felt
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: pretty good about this game. You know, Miami almost lost
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: on the road at Cal last year.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Auburn did and and the year before they had it
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: was like a really close game, and I think that
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: was in Auburn. But you know, they lost a fair
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: amount of talent, their quarterback Mendoza. Is that Indiana now
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: that they lost talent, and then they lost talent in
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the spring and we know from a few years ago
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: we lost our Nli wasn't up and ready to go
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: at that point and.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Not as good it is now. And we lost some.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Guys that turns out to them and went to the
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Big twelve and they made all Big twelve defensive teams,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: so that hurt. And then you know, they got this
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: true freshman that.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Came in late. They didn't even come in when you
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: normally come in.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: So I felt pretty good about it until I saw
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the kid throw the ball.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: And when I seen the kid throw the boy said, oh,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: we might have a problem here. Now.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say is his pocket. The Oregon
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: State's not what they were. They their coach that had
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: them a quall the solid, respectable team. He's at Michigan
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: State now looks like they're starting to turn the corner
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna see them later in the schedule. But
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you know, the one thing I'll say, Aaron, is it
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: was super clean pockets.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Right. He does look like he can move though. He
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: looks like a prototype really, and he may not be
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: you know, no no shot at Cow, but he may
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: not be there next year.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: He may get a deal. But when I saw him
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: make a couple of these throws, Aaron, it all of
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a sudden I had to be like, hold on dude.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: And then to make matters worse, Darius Taylor pulls up
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: with a hammy now you know, on the first drive.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: And you know, they said they got some good news
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: about Taylor, but we'd have to see if he's actually
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: out there even halfway practicing to see if he he'd play.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: So good news means the MRI was pretty good.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: But you know the MRI, I was pretty good with
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: JJ And yeah, he's not making that kind of money,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: but he's an important.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Part to our team.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Tailor is, and we saw we shut him down right away,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like you're not seeing the field for a month, dude,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you know. So I'm guessing Tailor's not gonna play so
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: right away. That's probably why Washington got so many carries
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: because they say, if we get there, we got a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: transfer kid who's got some speed. We got a two
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: young bucks that are gonna play. But man, they're to
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: go along with this quarterback. I'm long winded, sorry, but
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: you've known me long enough, you know I'm long winded.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: To go along with it. They're gonna play good fundamental front,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: like the front seven is gonna be a good defense.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: That's what that Will Cox is. So I'm nervous about
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: this game, man, and I'll full disclosure, I have it's
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: gone down. We open up two and a half. Some
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: books had.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: US three, but it's gone down so one and a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: half now. And even the money line just taking Cal
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: straight up went from one twenty one to plus well
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: plus one twenty one to plus one o three now,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: full disclosure, I have a plus one twenty two or
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: one twenty one with Cal. I'm a little nervous in
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: this one all of a sudden.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Who are on the road. It's that calm like a.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Ten.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, wall I look at it, Chris Is. They
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: might put an emphasis on their defensive line and stuff,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: but do they have the talent? You know, are they
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: big ten? Can they match a big ten offensive and
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: defensive line? That'll be a big, a big uh yeah,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: that's there. Leak some of those we saw last year,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: how USC and UCLA and all kind of got a
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: taste of what big ten offensive lines and defensive lines
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: look like. They didn't fare too well. Teams did because
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: their blue bloods like Oregon and Washington and whatever, and
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: they even had a little bit of trouble, but they
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: were able to, you know, with talent kind of make
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: up the difference, right, I did see the quarterback. You're right,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: for a true freshman, you're thinking, oh, okay, we'll rattle
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: or whatever, right right, and you're like, this is a
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: this is a future NFL quarterback, And you're right. He
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: might not be there the year after, but he's there now.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: So we had to prepare for him running back. Taylor,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: like you said, look like he's got a hamming and
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: you probably want to sit hammings, right at least for
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: a week. This it's just a minor, real, real minor thing,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: and we don't know how that is yet.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I guess he didn't.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: He wasn't sitting on the sidelines with Ice on it
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: right away either, so did take because they had a
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: long conversation. Not to cut you off, but they had
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: a long conversation him and Fleck on the sidelines. And
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: you wonder if he was trying to get back in
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the game or what. I don't know, I don't know.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe they just we won't know till two hours before
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: they kickoff.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they pull out the stationary bike and nt
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: keep it warm, you know, you know, but like we
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: have backs, uh yeah, dynamic as Taylor or experienced. Probably not,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: but so that'll be a loss there. You know, the
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: line keeps moving, like you said, so obviously somebody knows something.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: But then again, we're very early in the college football
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: season too, and uh so things get a little wonky
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: as far as as concerned.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: But probably move because of Taylor. You know.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the big Test. I mean, it's not the
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Big Test, but it's the first test, real test this season.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: So it's not in Iowa. It's not a Wisconsin or
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: a Michigan or Ohio state where you've been seeing these
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: guys a lot. So there's a lot of questions there. Well,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: like I said, it's it's the test. Uh and you know,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: the game has from what we saw when we opened
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: the schedule to where it is now. Like we're talking
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: about the NFL, how things change so dramatically throughout the
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: course of the season, you know this one's changed too.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a little nervous going in. And I
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: don't think it was a gimme even before we saw
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: the quarterback exactly. It was one where you thought if
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: you played well, you'd win. But now you know, we're
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: gonna test Perish and we're gonna test you know, Baranowski
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: and these safeties and these corners, and they're gonna have
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: to uh to show up and play now on our
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: for our advantage. He is a true freshman. There's probably
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: some things he hasn't seen a little bit, so you
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: might be able to trick him, get some picks. Let
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: your experience give you the advantage.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, also, you know talent. We did face some
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: talented quarterbacks in the past, but not like prodigies. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: this kid looks like a prodigy. This kid looks like
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I would hate to go against him at height schools.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: It's probably just throwing all over the place. Yeah, I
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: don't or anything, but you know, the bigger looks the.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Part to our kid, our red chirt freshman looks the
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: part too. We can't forget about that, right.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's been in the system for for a
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: year now. So yeah, I gotta like the Gophers. I
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: think the lines will make the difference at least. I
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: gotta think that it will be a blowout or anything.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, because I think even if you
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: get up this kid, if you drop you know, drop
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: your guard this kid and get you back in a
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: game quick as long as they got receivers. But I'll
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: take the Gophers in this one. Keep the ball rolling
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: with them as well. I'm gonna say probably higher scoring game,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: but not too high, so i'd say high.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: It's forty two and a half. Is the over under
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: forty two and a half?
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I take the over on that one too. I have
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: to take the over on that one too, because I
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: think it'll be thirty one, twenty five, twenty four or
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: something like that. It'll be in the fifties for sure,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: it's got to be if we can score. I might
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: be underestimating their defense. You know, you may have a
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: better handle on that than I do. But I think
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: you'll be able to run the ball, and if you
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: can run the ball, you'll be able to throw the ball,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: so on and so forth. So I think the Gophers
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: just got of pure size on the lines will win
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I mean that's six six, three thirty. Most of them
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: are that. And it does look like they leaned into
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the running game, like, yeah, these guys that we brought
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: in as transfers aren't perfect as far as an all
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: around offensive lineman, but it looked like they want to
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: get back to the meat and potatoes to take the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: pressure off Lindsey and get that play action going.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: You have a legit tight end.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: It's funny, like a while ago, before you know, this
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: kid made his debut, the analytics had us like fifty
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: five forty five. I saw some sixty.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Forties, and then like after that first game, it was
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: like Cal was favored by just a little bit.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: And so it's pretty even right now. I'm looking at
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the ESPN analytics fifty two point six percent chance for
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the tip for the Timbrols for the Gophers to forty
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: seven point four. So that is actually really swung back
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: and forth in a short amount of time. Usually don't
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: see it quite like that.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I just had the thought, Chris, I just had the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: thought that this could be an old school like Fleck
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: game where they just run and eat the clock. Good
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: strategy to go against a quarterback fenom like that is
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: just don't give.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Him the ball, Yeah, keep him on the sidelines looking
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: at film and stuff.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I keep the score rather low, so then truly might
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: want to hit that under. It just depends on what
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: you think Flex's gonna do.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's a good point. I wouldn't doubt if they
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: try to run Blue.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: It's like Buffalo did and say, all right, we're gonna
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: see you know, we're gonna see not only Lindsey, but
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see if we contain their run, especially without Taylor.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: We're gonna see these wide receivers that are not one
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: proven Tracy the the guy we got who's got two
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: years eligibility who you know in the transfer portal.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: He was like an all mac type guy.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: He looks the part of a guy that can be productive,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: but we're gonna need him to be Jalen Smith. That
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: guy has a ton of potential. Will he not drop
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: the ball? Speaking to drop in the ball, you know
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: our tight end. Speaking of looking the part, this guy
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: is a big old dude six five, two fifty. Really
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: came on last year, but he does have those scratch
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: your head drops. Brockington can come on like we we
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: don't have that one, Daniel Jackson, but we It does
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: feel like if we can get guys in space, we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: can get guys one on one if we can, you know.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: But that kind of goes with the run and.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: The play action, and so I am gonna I am
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: gonna predict that we win it, but I'm kinda kind
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: of what you just got done saying about just banging.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Try to bang these guys up and move the chains.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: And so I think it may be something like twenty
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: three to seventeen or twenty four to twenty or something
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: like that, and it may be, you know, it may
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: be a late field goal. But I am gonna go
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: with the Gophers just because, yeah, they got this youngster,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: but we got a youngster too that looked pretty good.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And uh, actually his number one wide receiver looks pretty
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: legit too. But kind of going back to what you said,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: you know, bang them out six six, three point thirty,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you know, do that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: For sixty minutes and see what happens. But I don't
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I think i'd be a more confident if I hadn't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: seen the kid they got, right. But also Taylor man like,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: he's our he's our bell Coow, and I like these
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: other pieces we got it running back, don't get me wrong.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And the Washington kid look legit, but that the.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Fact that he got twenty carries or whatever kind of
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: tells me they're gonna be like, well, we better get
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: this in just in case.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: We need him.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: You never know, So without Taylor and having that little
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: you know, not to say some of these guys, you know,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: like a J. Turner or Davis, they can catch you know,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: balls out of the backfield too.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, Davis already has a few.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: So you know, hopefully they picked that up from Taylor
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: to to really get out of that something Lindsay said,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: you know with Max last year, to get out of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: that backfield quick and just be that little check down
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: thing and keep the you know, let him break a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: tackle and and so you know, obviously more confident with Taylor,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: but you know, I guess we'll have to find out.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: It'd be nice though, if you get this win, you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: start out three and oh, you literally get a buye
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: before you take on Ruggers. And we know last year
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: they got a buy and we know that there's a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: lot of crossover coaching here in the offense. Really there's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: a turnover late in that game that kind of set
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: them up to score and win that game. Otherwise could have,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: would have, should have, but that that game was very
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: winnable and that was on the road. So we're gonna
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: get the two weeks to prepare for them this time,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: so you know, to have that three and oh start
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: man it'd be so big. And you know, also if
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Taylor is just kind of tweaked a little bit and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: he felt a little something and figured he'd mention it.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I was hoping it was a cramp, but
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: once you grab the hammy, you don't see as many
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: cramps there, right. You see it in the lower leg,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: but sometimes you see it in the groin area and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: all that too, So you know, it's a mixture. We'll
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: see if he's out there running around or if he's
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: just shut down all the way, like like Jay Jetta was.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm with you.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I think I think the Gophers are gonna win it,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: but you know, it might be just one of those
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: like hey, welcome to uh. I mean, they are cal
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: is in the ACC now, but you know, we got
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: a power for it. But really, the SEC and the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: big ten, there is a there is a notch up
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: now and it's only going to keep growing that way. Yeah,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and spare and spar Yeah, I hope it's not one
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: of those seasons. We did have a few of those.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, figures.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Back, but we're down to like the last running back
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: on the roster, true freshman.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Funny thing is, yeah, let's just say, Bucky, what's going on?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: So, but you're right, you know, let's hope it's not that, man.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope for two wins this week, Vikings against
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Atlanta and the Gophers at cal if you can stay
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: ab late enough to watch that one finish up, we'll
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: talk about it next week.