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#392 - Identiverse DC - Majority Rules · Identity at the Center

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  This is identity at the center OK.
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  Thank you. So much for being here this.
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  Afternoon sleeping, afternoon well.
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  We have a special treat for you today.
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  It is a game, it is interactive. I hope you brought your energy.
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  Can you please welcome Jim McDonald, Jeff?
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  Stedman. For identity.
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  And the center. Majority roll.
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  Thank you. People hear me.
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  OK, OK, good. Thumbs up.
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  All right, All right, so now for something completely different.
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  Are you going to learn anything? Probably not.
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  Are you going to be entertained? Hopefully so this is Identity
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  Center Majority rules. This is a game show that Jim and
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  I like to do from time to time, different conferences for those
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  people who are not familiar Identity Center is the two of
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  us. It is our nightly weekend job.
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  We've been doing podcasts for about 6 years.
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  IDC podcast.com like I subscribe vendor neutral podcast every
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  Monday morning we. Usually do it from thousands of
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  miles away. Might look like we're right next
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  to each other, but we're not. We're going to fake network
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  connection. Very difficulties.
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  While we're out here on the stage.
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  So let me ask my lovely Vanna standing back there, Sean, he's
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  going to be helping me to run the game.
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  First thing I need you to do, phone, tablet, computer, go to
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  our website, CCG dot buzz and enter that code.
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  This is a game that is all about you guys and what the audience
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  thinks about different questions.
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  It is not a quiz show to test knowledge.
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  This is preferences, favorites, and hopefully we're going to
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  have some fun and have some conversation around that.
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  So as people are getting joined in, I assure you the website is
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  safe. You'll have to trust me on that.
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  We'll see some players kind of get in.
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  So go ahead and start getting joined in.
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  I'll explain the rules as we're going as we're getting set up
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  here. So you're going to see questions
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  on the screen and you're going to vote on your favorite answer.
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  Theoretically, there will be multiple viable answers, and we
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  will have 5050 splits, things like that.
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  You get points for answering quickly, but you only get points
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  if you select the majority answer.
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  Makes sense. That makes sense as we go along
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  here. But the faster you respond and
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  the faster you pick that majority answer, the more points
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  you get. There's a leaderboard, so we'll
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  show the top 20 scores at any given point as you go along.
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  And we're playing for a free pass to identifiers Las Vegas
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  next year. So thanks to our friends at
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  Cyber Risk Alliance. Chris, give her a round of
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  applause. So free ticket.
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  You'll see that and a free identity at the center sticker,
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  right? We will be podcasting as well
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  later today. We have a little spot over in
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  the next room, so we hope to see people there.
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  Try to think if I didn't miss anything.
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  I don't think so, but the cheat code is.
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  You're not picking the right answer, you're picking what you
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  think most people will answer. Right, so if you want to stare
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  at other people's computers or devices, see what they're
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  picking, you know, that's another way to play the game.
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  We will spice it up in a little bit.
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  Not quite yet. Everyone will always have a
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  chance to win at the end. So if you think you're losing,
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  you're not worried there will be a chance to come back towards
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  the end. OK, so Sean, in the upper right
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  click that update fire count and let's see how many people we've
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  got on the on the game so far. Should be at least one.
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  Hopefully it's a really boring game.
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  There's nobody connected to the game.
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  All right, 72. OK, all right, so let's hit
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  start the game and let's see what we got down here.
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  I think a little bit of animation will play.
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  We have no sound effects, unfortunately, so you just have
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  to imagine very, very, very cool sound effects playing.
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  So all right, so now we just go and let's hit.
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  See the first question. So Sean, if you don't mind me,
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  just hit that spacebar. All right?
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  Oh, nothing. Friends mentioned questions are
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  totally randomized. Some are I am, some are not.
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  So worst conference slag to pack home.
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  Let's see what the choices are. Hit the spacebar.
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  We've got a stress ball or a cheap T-shirt.
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  So this is a nice warm up question.
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  Let's go ahead and open it up for voting.
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  And you have about 10 seconds to respond once that starts.
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  So imagine whatever theme music you would like for voting.
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  Thinking time, Jim, what do you think?
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  Stressful or Cheap's T-shirt? I answer what I think is the
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  honest answer, which is the cheap T-shirt.
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  You think that's the worst sweat?
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  I think stressful. Of those stressful, takes up
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  very little space, you might use a cheap T-shirt you wear once
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  and that's it. OK, all right, well, let's see
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  what the audience thinks. Sound effects.
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  All right, 58% think that a stress ball sucks.
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  I'm with you. I don't.
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  I'm not a stress ball fan. So does this make sense?
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  Start understanding on this place.
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  All right, let's see what the scoreboard looks like.
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  Oh, see, sound effects, all that stuff going on.
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  All right, I'm not even going to try to pronounce that.
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  Karova, Sivan and Karov, 92 points.
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  Raise your hand if you're one of those two people.
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  OK, we got one in the back and one over here.
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  OK, Karov. OK, so Viva Las Vegas.
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  That's interesting. We'll see if we have any funding
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  coming up here. All right, so let's go to the
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  next question and see what we've got.
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  We got totally randomized. Let's see, 79 people are
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  playing. OK, what is the best way to
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  reply to why access was denied? Let's see the answer choices
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  here. Is it, hey, check the policy or
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  I don't know, just send me the logs and let's figure it out.
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  Let's open up for voting. Jim.
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  What do you think? Policy we're sending up?
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  Jim's playing at Jim. 'S oh, I'm playing.
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  He's trying to gain this. I want to win that three
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  tickets. I Denver, actually I would say
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  the sticker, but I've got like 8000.
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  Of them so far, yeah. Send me logs OK?
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  Sudden logs. Let's see what the audience
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  thinks. 50 All right, Kind of see what we've got going on
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  here. All right, let's see what that
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  does for our leaderboard. Deshawn taking over Olivia Roby,
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  All right. Love it.
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  OK. And I see Andy's up there as
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  well. So congratulations, Andy here in
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  the top top 20. All right, let's get to the next
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  question. 82 people are playing so far.
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  How does AI improve science or customer or consumer or citizen
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  IAM? What are the options we've got
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  here to choose from? Is it smarter fraud detection or
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  personalized journeys? Let's open that up for voting.
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  Jim, what do you think? I think smarter fraud protection
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  I. Think that's the easy answer,
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  yeah. And.
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  That's what we're going for, right?
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  I mean, what are the most people going to answer?
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  I'm still waiting for the. Options.
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  OK, let's, let's. All right, so we've got the
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  ability. Let's see what the audience
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  thinks. Oh, wow.
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  OK, you're right. Nobody cares about using AI to
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  personalize their stuff. I wonder why?
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  That's right. All right, so who picked
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  personalized journeys? Anyone brave?
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  You want to say why? OK, yell it out.
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  What? Andy, you picked it, you're up
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  front. Your easy.
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  Yeah, because there wasn't an. Option C.
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  None of the above. C None of the above.
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  OK, what about the back? There was a hand raise.
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  Why did you pick personalized journeys?
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  Yell it out. Best customer experience.
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  All right, let's get to the leaderboard.
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  Let's see what that does. We know Andy's going to stay on
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  the board here. All right, Deshawn is the one
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  first, you know. Where's Deshawn?
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  Raise your hand, Deshawn in the back.
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  All right, let's see. Eva.
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  Las Vegas is still hanging tight, so it's been good for
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  them. And Johnson 6.
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  All right, let's get to the next question.
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  All right, what is a user's favorite MFA method?
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  Let's see what the choices are. Is it a push notification or is
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  it biometric? All right, let's open up for
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  voting. I know everybody loves the push
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  notifications, especially on the spam that you get from it.
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  Fine, yes, yes. OK, you're right on the
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  Facebook, dude. What do you vote?
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  For talking about, people love it.
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  Love it, love it, love it. OK, strong opinions on it.
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  Let's see. Let's see what the results are
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  here. OK, a little bit of a split
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  there. Biometrics versus push who who
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  selected push notification? All right, so you, Sir, why
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  explain yourself the prevalence of the industry, OK, it's it's,
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  it's known. So there's less training going
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  on with it, OK. But then we said we're fighting
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  to stop people from using. OK, All right, let's see what
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  that does for our standings. All right.
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  OK. Robbie.
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  Robbie. Is it Robbie or Robbie?
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  Robbie, where? OK, where you at?
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  Sorry, I didn't see it. OK, there you go.
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  All right, we met Robbie last night.
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  The identity beer plugged right down here, tied up with John
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  just hanging tuck up front here. All right, let's do one more
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  question and then we're going to get spicy.
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  So let's go ahead and see him. One more question, what is the
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  least favorite authentication factor?
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  Let's see what the choices are. Text message, SMS, or voice
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  call. All right, let's open voting.
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  I can tell you right now I don't want anybody to call me ever,
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  ever, never, never call my cell phone or or my office line.
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  That's how I know that nobody really knows me.
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  If they call my office line, I don't even know what my office
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  line is. So if you have that number, you
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  scrap your phone with somewhere. All right, let's see what the
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  audience thinks. Yeah.
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  OK. Thank you very much.
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  I'm Jeff. Have a great week.
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  No. So, yeah, nobody wants a voice
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  call. All right, let's see what that
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  does for our standings. So Brian, 1% didn't pick SMS.
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  All right, John is taking the lead.
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  Roby slightly behind neither. Las Vegas #7 OK, so I mentioned
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  that we're going to get spicy spicy, so let's get the spicy
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  button in the back. What we're going to do now is
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  we're going to ship this to Battle Royale.
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  So what's going to happen now is instead of seeing 2 answers,
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  you're going to see 4 answers. The goal now is still the same,
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  pick the majority answer. But here's where the spice comes
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  in. If you pick the least popular
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  answer, your points go back down to 0.
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  So that's why I said everybody will have a chance until the
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  very end to potentially bring out the win.
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  Now you'll still gain points if you choose the, you know, the
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  majority answer, but you're going to see 4 answers now.
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  And if we lose people, and I'm sure we will, it happens, there
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  will be explosions. So get prepared for that.
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  All right, let's see what our first question is.
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  OK, why is RBAC difficult at scale and our choices are role
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  as shadow IT, access tax role, lack of role ownership for every
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  team insisting that they are unique and special.
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  OK, so let's open up for voting and see what people think.
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  I'm sorry to tell people most of the time they're not special.
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  And so it's tough to build a role for one person that kind of
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  keeps the purpose. And also one of the reasons why
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  I really don't like our back. I'd much rather start with
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  Ashley for policy days. All right, let's see what we got
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  for answers. OK.
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  All right. So why is it difficult?
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  Yeah. Everybody thinks they're
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  special. A lack of role ownership.
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  Role explosion, shadow. IT got the least amount of
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  answers in the room. So if you pick that, I'm very
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  sorry, but you're about to see an explosion through your name.
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  Let's go ahead and see what that does to our leaderboard and see
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  where people are at. Let's see.
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  Come on. Explosions.
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  OK, but Shuck is saying here Shook is a shooter.
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  Shuck. Shoot.
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  OK, All right, so Shook is very happy you're in.
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  You're in first place. Pressure's not if you get the
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  wrong answer, you're going back on 0.
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  So let's get to the next question.
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  OK, what is the official Identity and Access Management
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  Architect uniform? Let's see what the answers are.
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  Is it the company polo? The vendor T-shirt, Blazers and
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  jeans? Jeans or an unwashed hoodie?
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  Sorry to stereotype. Let's open it up for voting.
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  Jim, what are you looking for? Unwashed hoodie.
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  Unwashed. That's the official I am
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  architecting for. It's OK.
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  I would go with. I feel like a company polo is
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  kind of where that typically would stand.
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  That's what I would be wearing. Let's see what people think, OK,
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  Unwashed footy. That is the official architect.
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  You know, I'm walking around the room.
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  I don't see a lot of unwashed footy.
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  So first of all, thank you. Let's see I'm the holo and AT
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  shirt, Blazers and jeans. You know, I would have thought
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  Blazers and jeans would have been a little higher answer.
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  On this just. Because.
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  Yeah, that's the, that's the business executive, right?
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  OK, All right, let's see what this does for our standings.
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  Come on, Explosions. Oh, Hubert, so long.
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  Sorry. All right, Anna, you're in
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  first. Now.
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  Where's Anna or Anna? Anna.
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  Very nice. All right, let's get to the next
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  question. I promised there would be
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  explosions and we got this right now.
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  All right. Next question.
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  What is your favorite place to hide A secret?
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  So take that for what you will and the answers will help me get
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  lower explanatory. Is it you put those in
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  environment variables? Is it the key vaults?
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  Is that a hardware security module or the ever popular
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  sticky note under the keyboard? So let's open it up for voting.
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  Let's see what 83 people think the answer is.
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  I'm assuming this is, you know, height secret so.
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  Production dimension? Well, that's one.
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  It's too embarrassing unless they're trying to blow up their
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  name. Maybe the explosions are very
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  cool. I can see why you might want to
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  do that. Let's see what the the audience
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  thinks. All right, so I know keyboard
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  place. You probably want to look under
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  people's keyboards in this room and see what's going on.
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  Not many people think about them Baron materials or an HSM.
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  So that makes sense. I think that's probably like the
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  standard answer, right? Put your put your secrets in a
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  secrets hall of some sort. All right, let's see if we've
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  got any explosions. No explosion, but Pete has taken
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  the lead. Where's Pete?
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  Sitting at the end. OK, so Pete might be looking
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  over your shoulder. You might want to be careful
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  about waiting to go for over there.
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  There's bosses not here. All right, let's get to the next
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  question. All right, what is a protocol
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  that you secretly miss? Isn't?
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  Let's see the answers. LPA has Kerberos or anything
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  that doesn't require reading. Jason, what is something you
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  secretly missed? Of those options, let's open up
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  for voting. I have a feeling there's a lot
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  of people just don't want to read it for Jason, so I think
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  I'm going to vote for Jason even though not actually fighting.
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  All right, let's see what the people think.
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  The majority do not have no interest whatsoever agreed to
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  face on. And I do not blame you.
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  OK? All right, so who picked LM
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  again in the back? Why did you pick LM?
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  It's the best one. OK, All right, say no more.
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  That's it. OK, let's see what it does for
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  our leaderboard. Any solutions?
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  One. Marco.
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  Boom. Sorry, Marco, keep playing.
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  We get back on top. All right, Pete, Nana's still at
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  the top. Let's go to the next question.
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  All right, what is your most hated specialized key?
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  So the answers will help make this a little more easy to
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  understand and see what those are.
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  Is it F5, the insert button, the Caps lock key, or any key that
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  weighs the computer up? So your specialized key in your
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  keyboard, which is your favorite or say your most, your least
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  favorite, your hated, which is easy.
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  Let's open up a. Book Oh, it's got to be caps
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  lock. Caps lock got to be caps lock.
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  How many fat finger passwords because of caps lock?
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  Or documents they get to paste them the word do translation
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  from caps on to. Send to piece.
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  We have the app for that now. All right.
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  Caps Lock. Yeah, not surprise.
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  OK, so caps lock is the majority answer.
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  Let's see what that does for our scoreboard.
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  OK, so Deshawn, that the first place here.
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  Let's see. And now we've got not John
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  Lennon. So we've got John Lennon and
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  then not John Lennon. I'm guessing it's somebody at
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  this table. Yes.
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  You've got to work on your poker face because I could immediately
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  tell us like, all right, that's it.
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  All right, All right, let's see the next question here.
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  All right, what do you want to be responsible for?
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  Let's see the answers are conference AP setup, bad
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  standing reliability, room change notifications or keeping
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  the snack tables fold. So if you're working a
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  conference, so guys in the back, Chris, Chris, you should
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  hopefully you're fighting. I see you got your phone out.
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  You shouldn't play. OK, let's open up for voting and
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  see what you would most want to be responsible for.
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  I feel like I do a lot of conferencing.
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  You set up just because of what we.
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  Do. But yes, the most important
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  thing, the most important thing you can charge the most.
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  Important thing that is for sure.
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  All right, let's see what the people think, OK?
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  The people have spoken and they want their snacks.
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  So, all right, let's see what that does for our leaderboard.
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  Deshawn. Where's Deshawn?
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  It's still in the back here, OK. Brilliant.
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  All right, Deshawn, you're, you're taking up a pretty good
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  lead here. Is he should still up there.
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  Rachel. Where's Rachel?
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  Sitting back there. OK.
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  All right. Any questions?
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  Majors in this in college. All right, let's get to the next
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  question, 84 people. What is the best way to secure
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  an API key? Let's see what the answers are.
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  Is it just hash it, rotate it, don't use it, or let's pray
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  nobody likes you as a way to store that API, the key.
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  Let's open it up for voting. What do you think, Jim?
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  I I mean I'm thinking cash it or rotate it are probably the the.
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  2. Best ways?
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  Yeah, but I voted for the worst way, which is probably because.
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  Checks so he's playing the game, but I don't see you on the beer
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  board though yet. No, I got blown up because I OK.
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  Yeah, I forgot. So people are getting
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  individually going up if you're not in the top 20.
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  So sorry. All right, let's see what the
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  answers are. Yeah, OK.
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  Pray nobody checks GitHub and rotate it off and don't use it
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  or action. That makes sense.
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  OK, let's see what the next question brings us.
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  Actually don't. Let's see what the leaderboard
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  does for us here if we got any explosions.
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  What's that Keenan? Sorry, Keenan, very public blow
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  up with that, but Viva Las Vegas takes over his side.
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  So all right, let's get to the next question here.
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  Anna's back in first place. Shawn and Anna, you get it up
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  here a little bit. All right, what is the secret to
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  surviving keynotes? No offense, Andy.
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  All right, let's see what our answers are.
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  Is it the chair selection strategy pre reading with that,
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  staying off the Wi-Fi for a shot every time someone says AI could
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  drink? All right, let's open Guster
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  voting. So I will tell you, for me, it's
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  a chair selection strategy. I don't care what do people say,
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  I am always in the back, as evidenced by open tables up
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  here. Most people sitting in the back
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  here, I think people are with me.
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  I don't stay off the Wi-Fi, otherwise you're in your e-mail,
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  your messages, etcetera. Well, so the opposite of that
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  is, you know, no offense, but if it's a bad keynote, the Wi-Fi
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  might be how you survive it. Because that's true.
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  That's. True.
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  So I'm just saying not not that our keynotes here are not good.
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  They're great. All right let's see what the
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  vote is All right so they want snacks and they want drinks
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  cause look at an excuse for shots in the crowds for AI 21%
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  of the people are with me in my chair selection strategy.
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  Where's my 21% at? Raise your hand at raise your
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  hands All right, Sean's with me at the back, all right and yes
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  and they are all sitting in the back so just.
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  All those, Sean did the same. You, Sean, did.
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  No, Sean, not to Sean. D Sean.
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  Yeah, OK, let's see what the scoreboard looks like here.
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  All right, Sean, back in first place and let's see any other
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  interesting things, people. Las Vegas climbing the ladders.
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  OK, All right, let's get to the next question.
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  We got a few minutes left still. All right, what is the biggest
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  bottleneck in ITA? So identity, governance,
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  administration, let's see what our choices are.
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  Is it the requirements gathering, the connector
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  development, user acceptance testing, or arguments over what
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  a department is? So let's open up for voting and
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  see. ITA seems like it's such a
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  simple thing to deploy until you actually have to talk to the
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  business and then you have major problems.
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  So let's see what people think, what you vote for.
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  I vote for requirements, but I think the last 1 is pretty
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  interesting. I wish.
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  To change, you want to change it to the department, to what a
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  department is, Yeah. That's like too late.
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  Too late. Sorry.
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  All right, let's see what the the audience thinks.
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  Oh, OK, yeah, so people probably had this who's ruled on IG and
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  had this discussion. Wow, OK, a lot of people.
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  John, I'm going to put you on the spot.
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  Tell me about this story real quickly.
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  Oh, there's a certain SAS vendor where I may have worked, and we
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  often got caught up in the entomology and taxonomy of
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  language because we had no cohesive organizational
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  definitions. OK.
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  So you people weren't thinking the same same language, you
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  know, the same. Definition.
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  What's a business? You know what's an apartment,
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  right? And then you have to have that
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  same conversation with a free single business unit, right?
• 24:23
  Indeed. Fun times.
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  Let's see what that does for our leaderboard.
• 24:30
  OK, Deshawn hanging tough, no explosions, but maybe where
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  there were individual explosions on the audience.
• 24:37
  All right, let's get to the next question.
• 24:38
  We got a couple minutes left. So what is the primary cause of
• 24:44
  roll explosion? Not to be confused with majority
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  rules explosion. So what's that the answers here?
• 24:51
  There's a granular permission slack of cleanup that design for
• 24:54
  a just one rule for the new guy. Let's open it up for voting.
• 24:59
  Kind of similar to the question. You had earlier, but.
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  What causes role exposure? For me, I think it's bad design.
• 25:06
  I think you like cleanup. It's just like you keep piling
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  war crap on top of the old crap. Also an option.
• 25:12
  Let's see if either let's see the categories of those.
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  Just one rolls with this new guy.
• 25:19
  All right, all right, everyone's special.
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  I take it back. All right, let's do what it does
• 25:24
  for our meter board. It's always better on green.
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  Ek. Sorry, we're intent.
• 25:32
  Sean. Rachel P Carson.
• 25:35
  All right, let's get to the next question.
• 25:38
  Again, we're playing for a free ticket to Identiverse next year.
• 25:41
  And a sticker. So high private here, first rate
• 25:45
  after a schema update. What breaks first?
• 25:47
  Is it the HRV custom scripts, third party connectors or the
• 25:53
  architects will to live? All right, let's open it up for
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  voting and see what happens. Hopefully the hopefully we have
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  stronger willed architects that can stomach a little adversity
• 26:07
  in their organization because of course that's what happened and
• 26:10
  let's see. All right, tell me you're at a
• 26:15
  conference's bunch of architects without telling me that you're
• 26:18
  at a conference a bunch of architects.
• 26:20
  All right, let's see what that is for our leaderboard.
• 26:25
  OK, Deshawn, first place. Killing it all, right?
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  So this is probably where we'll do our last question.
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  So there's no pressure whatsoever on Deshawn to make
• 26:35
  sure that he does not pick the least popular answer.
• 26:37
  If he does, again, we still have opportunities.
• 26:41
  Let's see what this last question is.
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  What is the fastest way to confuse a user answers?
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  Is it ask for their IP address, ask for their browser version,
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  mention federation, or ask them to clear their cache.
• 26:57
  All right, let's see what the answer is. 84 people are going
• 27:00
  to vote on this and we're going to see if Deshawn hangs on.
• 27:02
  No pressure Deshawn, he's thumbs up.
• 27:06
  He's confident, he's locked in. Jim, what do you vote for?
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  I. Picked IP address but I think.
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  Any of these did actually confuse.
• 27:14
  Her most or the least. Users are so very easily
• 27:17
  confused. All right, let's see what
• 27:19
  happens here. Most people ask them to clear
• 27:22
  their cache by a pretty wide margin.
• 27:24
  Nobody thinks. Everybody thinks they can get
• 27:26
  their browser version pretty easily.
• 27:27
  OK, All right, drumroll. Let's see.
• 27:31
  Did Deshawn. Hang on, let's see what our
• 27:33
  answers are. Or in our our computer board.
• 27:37
  He did, but we lost David Leo. All right, so let's hit that
• 27:42
  winner button for Deshawn. Congratulations, Deshawn, the
• 27:47
  winner of the slicker like dummy in the center majority rules.
• 27:52
  There we go. Animations, sound effects.
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  So you probably noticed some cameras, some microphones.
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  If it turned out well, you'll see this as an episode on our
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  podcast probably in a few weeks. So again, I'm Jeff, that's Jim,
• 28:06
  and thank you very much. Enjoy my next everyone.
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