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- 0:00This is Money in Motion with Class Financial, a fun and informative show designed
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- 1:32ten. That's three two one thirteen ten. Joined this week by Malia Quavis
- 1:37and Nate Bribe. Nate, how are you doing this morning? Morning sewn
- 1:41doing good? Good to talk with you. Malia, How are you doing
- 1:42on this beautiful day? Are you keeping cool? As the kids would say?
- 1:46Yeah, it's a little sweltering outside cool? Well said, Now you
- 1:49are you are from California? Originally yeah, but this isn't This still does
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- 2:00who are maybe considering Florida. Just think a little bit, we've We've got
- 2:06a great conversation that had in a great opportunity as well to get down the
- 2:08air with your question. This week, we're going to be talking about fees
- 2:12and understanding what fees are showing up when it comes to investing, whether you're
- 2:15doing it on your own or got the four oh one k maybe at work,
- 2:19or if you're working with a financial professional. We're gonna talk about that
- 2:23this morning with Melia and Nates and mentioned the phone lines are open six to
- 2:25eight three two one thirteen ten. That's three two one thirteen ten. Before
- 2:29we start talking about fees, though. One of the other great features of
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- 2:46oftentimes, just about every time both the question and answer to the Class Quiz
- 2:51question the League come up during the show, so it pays to pay attention
- 2:54in many, many different ways. To all the great information. Before we
- 2:58get rolling on this week's topic, let's take a look back actually at last
- 3:00week's Claus Quiz question a week get the question and answer there as well.
- 3:04Meliah. Yeah, so last week we had a great conversation about retirement readiness,
- 3:09a little checklist we had prepared for people to kind of review where they're
- 3:14at. So the question of the week was what percentage of retirees report that
- 3:19they ended up spending more than they expected in retirement? Is it ten percent
- 3:23or more than thirty percent? And so simone, congratulations to her. She
- 3:29correctly answered, thirty percent of retirees report that they spent more than expecting in
- 3:35retirement. So just put that on your retirement checklist to make sure that you're
- 3:38understanding you might spend more in retirement so you can plan accordingly. And it
- 3:43was a fantastic show, and it's a great opportunity you mentioned that checklist to
- 3:46listen back to that program, and of course you can subscribe to the Money
- 3:50in Motion podcast right at Claus Financial dot com. That's Klaas Financial dot com.
- 3:54There telephone number six so eight four four two five six three seven no
- 3:58charge. The nitial get to know you intet Quast Financial, it will be
- 4:00complimentary to you. Delphone number six to eight four four two five six three
- 4:04seven to get on the air this morning six eight three two one thirteen ten.
- 4:09That's three two one thirteen ten. I know you guys help people with
- 4:11retirement planning each and every day, and I've got a guess. It's a
- 4:14pretty important part of the conversation is understanding what associated fees cannon will show up
- 4:19when you're investing, either you're doing it on your own or four oh one
- 4:23ks or working with a financial professional. Correct, Yeah, Sean, this
- 4:29is an important topic today because honestly, some people come into our office and
- 4:32say, well, I don't pay my guy or gal you know anything,
- 4:34or there's no cost in my retirement plan, and well that's not always exactly
- 4:39true, you know, So today we definitely want to understand what and how
- 4:43you know you are paying for advice within the financial industry. So some questions
- 4:47to ask, are are you paying for an investment product, are you paying
- 4:51for a financial advice or some combination of both. Are these fees competitive?
- 4:57Are there any surrender charges or restriction to get my money out? If I'd
- 5:00change my mind? So understanding all these costs before you invest is absolutely imperative.
- 5:06So keep in mind that you know any service as we use, there
- 5:11is an associated cost. So the example I always use is if you change
- 5:16your oil in your car yourself, maybe the oil in the filter is forty
- 5:20or fifty bucks, but if you take it to the dealership, it costs
- 5:24seventy or eighty dollars for the parts and the expertise of the mechanic. So
- 5:29generally speaking, when you bring the advice of a financial planner in, costs
- 5:32generally go up versus just the cost of investing your money. So I always
- 5:39laugh when we call investment companies with our clients and the recording says we don't
- 5:43give tax, legal, or investment advice. It's funny because that's literally what
- 5:46most people are calling about. Definitely think when the value of most financial planners
- 5:53comes from their advice, not just you know, investing your money, but
- 5:56the good news with the cost of investment management, it's drastically been reduced with
- 6:01advancements in technologies and many platforms going to zero dollars and trading fees for people
- 6:06who choose to self drive. Most robo advisors, which will get into later
- 6:13charge anywhere from twenty five basis points that's point two five percent to fifty basis
- 6:17points point five percent, so a half a percent to diversify and rebalance your
- 6:23investments. Now, let's get into some different types of investment fees that you
- 6:28may be seen in your accounts. The first term that we wanted to understand
- 6:31is the term load. This refers to as sales charge or commission that is
- 6:35charged to an invest in when you're buying or redeeming shares. So common types
- 6:41of sales charges that you may see are front end loads or back end loads.
- 6:46These fees truely are mainly used to compan representative you're working with. But
- 6:50let's break down three common types of loads that you may see in your accounts.
- 6:56The first one is probably the most common. It's a front end load,
- 7:00and this is mainly associated with Class A mutual funds that you may have
- 7:04in your account. So these are a percentage of the total investment or premium
- 7:12paid into a mutual fund, annuity, or life insurance contract. The percentage
- 7:16paid for this front end load is varies between investment companies, but it's typically
- 7:21around five percent, and there is a rule that it cannot be higher than
- 7:25eight eight point five percent per finer rules, which is good. And according
- 7:30to the Investment Company Institute, ninety one percent of all money invested in load
- 7:34funds in twenty twenty. Well, we're held in front end load funds,
- 7:39which which we do see in practice. Very interesting talking this morning with our
- 7:43retirement planning professionals from Class Financial, Nate Bribe and Malia Quavis. If you've
- 7:46got a question, we've got a phone line for you to get on the
- 7:48air this morning at six to eight three two one thirteen ten. That's three
- 7:51two one thirteen ten. Forget about Class financials website class financial dot com that's
- 7:57Klaas Financial dot com and they're telephone number six to eight four four two five
- 8:01six three seven no charge. Then init shi'll get to know your applotment deck
- 8:05lost financially it will be complimentary to you. And Nate, you mentioned there's
- 8:07three types of loads. You mentioned front endloads. Now I am not I
- 8:11am not the brightest ball always, but I've got a guess back end might
- 8:15be another one. Yep, there's a few more. And just to re
- 8:18iterate how important it is to really track what you're paying and fees. You
- 8:22know, if you just put some math to it, you know, you
- 8:24put one hundred thousand dollars in a front end load mutual fund that has a
- 8:26five percent you know fee, let's call it, only ninety five thousand right
- 8:31is going into the investment. So you know, if that's not disclosed to
- 8:35you or it's not always clear you get that first statement, you said,
- 8:37wait a minute, I put in one hundred thousand, there's only ninety five
- 8:39in there right, just being like we said, we need to slow down
- 8:41and be a wire and ask the right questions before we sign up for these
- 8:45accounts. But John is on the other end. You may have an account
- 8:52that has a back end load or a B share that has a c d
- 8:56SC charge, which is a contingent deferred sale charge, meaning that all your
- 9:01money would would potentially go into the fund. But if you redeem shares within
- 9:05a period of time five to seven years, there may be a fee to
- 9:11get the money out. So it could start it let's say five percent if
- 9:13you redeem shares within the first year, four percent you know, in year
- 9:18two, three and three and so forth on down until it's zero percent after
- 9:22five or seven years. So those are more common in like annuity products that
- 9:26we see, but a whereof so the last one are no load funds,
- 9:33which are more popular now with advisors who charge fees for their services instead of
- 9:39commission. So some of these fees. Just be aware do still charge at
- 9:43twelve B one fee once we'll get into in a second. That can also
- 9:46compensate the representative. Fascinating stuff, really important information this week, as always
- 9:52from our retirement planning professionals from Claus Financial chatting this week with Malia Quavis and
- 9:56Nate Bribe. If you've got a question for Malia, Nate love to get
- 10:00you on the air six O eight three two one thirteen ten. That's six
- 10:03O eight three two one thirteen ten. We'll get you right on the show.
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- 10:37to get down the air this morning six O eight three two one thirteen ten.
- 10:39That's six O eight three two one thirteen ten. We'll talk a little
- 10:43bit more about understanding fees with Nate and Malia and take your call next as
- 10:46Money in Motion with Class Financial continues here on thirteen ten. WIBA. This
- 10:56is Money in Motion with Class Financial, a fun informative show designed to help
- 11:01you get answers to all your retirement questions in one place. Phone lines are
- 11:07open to you right now at six O eight three two one thirteen ten.
- 11:09That's six O eight three two one thirteen ten. Gets you on the air
- 11:13with Melia and Nate from Class Financial, our retirement planning professionals from Claus Financial,
- 11:18Malia Quavis and Nate Berby again. The website Class Financial dot com.
- 11:22That's Klaas Financial dot com. Great website and great resource. And the telephone
- 11:26number six O eight four four two five six three seven. Don't forget no
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- 11:33complimentary to you. Again the number six O eight four four, two,
- 11:35five, six, three seven and three two one thirteen ten to get on
- 11:39the air this morning talking about fees, and I think a lot of folks
- 11:45wonders. So let's say I'm working with a financial advisor, Malia, what
- 11:48type of fees am I likely to pay there? Yeah, so this is
- 11:52a great question, and I don't want people to miss. The point of
- 11:54the show today is really if you're investing money anywhere, there are associated fees.
- 12:01So sometimes they are more you know, transparent, and you can see
- 12:05them. Other times, you know, as Nate pointed out, with commission
- 12:09only, it's like kind of like who in that money is no longer in
- 12:15your account, So you've got to understand what has happened. So when we
- 12:18look at the three basic ways that advisors get paid, the first one would
- 12:22be commission only advisors, as Nate was discussing, where you are paying through
- 12:26a load, which we just explained. So that is one of the more
- 12:30common ways people have invested money over the last several decades, to be quite
- 12:35honest. Then we have the next line item, which is fee only advisors.
- 12:39Now these situations are you're paying a fee for a service. You sit
- 12:43down, You're maybe just doing a financial plan. This could be on an
- 12:48hourly basis. It could be a project based situation. Like I said,
- 12:52a financial plan, you're basically told upfront what the fee is going to be
- 12:56for that completed project. So just understand the distinction of each of these areas.
- 13:01The next one is fee based advisors. So these advisors may use a
- 13:05combination of methods. Your fee may show up as an assets under management fee
- 13:11or AUM as we call it, which is when your account is charged each
- 13:15year or each quarter as a percentage of how much money is being managed for
- 13:18you. So an example this could be that if you have a certain amount
- 13:22of assets under management, depending on your level, depending on the company you're
- 13:26working with, you might have one percent or more of a charge on those
- 13:31assets on a yearly basis. So essentially what happens here is the advisor and
- 13:37the client will basically have skin in the game, as we say, which
- 13:41means as your account makes more, there will be an increased dollar amount,
- 13:48but the percentage doesn't change. And in the situation of twenty twenty two,
- 13:52where most people saw a decline in their account balances across the board, across
- 13:58the whole market, you would have noticed that your fees actually went down.
- 14:03So point being both the advisor and the client have the same you know,
- 14:09ultimate goal is is you want to make as much as possible within the risk
- 14:13provided you know that that makes sense for the client. So for clarity,
- 14:18how does class financial get paid when we work with clients. We fall under
- 14:22the fee based or fee only advisory model as a registered investment advisor. So
- 14:28that's important to understand. As Nate said, you want clarity. You want
- 14:31to know who you're paying, how you're paying, how often your pain and
- 14:35certainly ask about different points if you were to invest more, are their reductions
- 14:41in those fees. Other fees to be aware of include expense ratios, and
- 14:46those are the fees that cover the annual fund operating expenses. So for example,
- 14:50you may see in a prospectus if you read those or your end statements
- 14:54and expense ratio of one percent, which that what that typically means is that
- 14:58if you I, say a thousand dollars invested in your mutual fund, than
- 15:03your cost in that one fund is essentially ten dollars a year So the fees
- 15:09that make up the expense ratio that includes management fees, those would be the
- 15:13portfolio managers that oversee those funds, because as I said, everybody's getting paid.
- 15:18Someone's getting paid. Distribution and service fees, which we call twelve B
- 15:22one fees. Those handle the marketing costs, how much it takes to promote
- 15:28the fund. Let me be clear, the ones that you hear about all
- 15:31the time in the media on national at a national level, there's a lot
- 15:35of twelve B one fees coming out of those invested funds because somebody is paying
- 15:41for the marketing and finally administrative fees and operating costs. So those would be
- 15:46salary managers, record keeping in research. So some funds are more expensive to
- 15:52run than others. It depends how high or low that expense ratio is.
- 15:56Generally, mutual funds that invest in large companies will have expense ratios under one
- 16:00percent. Our funds at focus maybe on the smaller companies or international stocks.
- 16:07Sometimes we see expense ratios in the one point two five percent range. So
- 16:11you just want to understand what it is you're investing in, how much you're
- 16:15paying. Talking this morning, without retirement fund professional. C. Chase,
- 16:19CE Chase off. Why he's out of town? Why is it every warm
- 16:23day? C. Jason, we're talking off. Yes, I'm talking with
- 16:29Milliaquais in Nate Bribe this morning, I'll retirement plantic professionals from Claus Financial.
- 16:33Learn more online Claus financial dot com. That's k l as Financial dot com.
- 16:40And of course the telephone number six O eight four four two five six
- 16:42thirty seven. That's four four two fifty six thirty seven. Oh charts.
- 16:47Then I should get to know you blame me at Clause Financial. It will
- 16:48be complimentary to you, Millia. Is there more to that area as far
- 16:52as different types of fees people need to be aware of? Nope, that's
- 16:56pretty much what I'm covering here. That's enough meet. Yes, except you
- 17:02may have heard about robo advisors. We'll talk about that and just moments still
- 17:06got full lines is open for you as well. Here at thirteen ten w
- 17:08IBA delphin number six eight three two one thirteen ten. That's three two one
- 17:12thirteen ten. More of Money in Motion next year on thirteen ten w IBA.
- 17:19This is Money in Motion with Class Financial, a fun and informative show
- 17:25designed to help you get answers to all your retirement questions in one place.
- 17:29So got time for your question, your call up to get you on the
- 17:32air this morning six eight three two one thirteen ten. That's three two one
- 17:34thirteen ten. Chatting this week with Malia Quavis and Nate Briby our retirement flinning
- 17:38professionals from Claus Financial. Learn more about Class Financial on their website class financial
- 17:44dot com. That's Klaas Financial dot com. Great website there to learn more
- 17:48about the team and their telephone number six to eight four four two five,
- 17:52six three seven. Talking about fees this weekend, of course we all hear
- 17:57about technology and like Rouble advisors, what about Roebo advisors and are there fees
- 18:03to be aware of their innate What about our retirement plans at work? Yep,
- 18:08yeah, so we set it before I'm going to say it again.
- 18:11There are fees in some way when you invest your money. Okay, you
- 18:17know this is even true with Roebo advisors. So for those who are not
- 18:19familiar with robot advisors, these really have gainstein probably the last ten years or
- 18:25so. They're online investment platforms that invest with the help of technology and algorithms
- 18:32to drive some models with very little to no human interaction. So typically if
- 18:37you punch in, you'll they'll ask you'll fill out a questionnaire to collect some
- 18:41information regarding your financial situation, degree of risk, you're willing to accept,
- 18:47your future goals, and things like that. Then they'll use the data to
- 18:51offer some limited advice and ask the allocation to invest your money. So with
- 18:57these limited services, Roilboard advisors do use the AUM fee structure that Malia talked
- 19:03about a few minutes ago, and typically we see these providers charge anywhere from
- 19:08point to five percent to point five percent, so twenty five bases points to
- 19:14fifty basis points is how we refer to that. In the industry, some
- 19:18do have the option to layer on personalized human advice. What's do add an
- 19:22additional layer of fees to get people up sometimes to one point five percent as
- 19:27well. There. So, like I said, really, you know,
- 19:30the biggest thing that we're hitting on here is you know, ask your provider,
- 19:36you know what services or advice am I getting for the you know,
- 19:38for my fee? And I love when clients come in with these questions or
- 19:41compare our feed gride around town because it's very easy for us to articulate our
- 19:47our value proposition and any any firm that you work with should should be comfortable
- 19:51doing that as well. So you know, am I getting regular scheduled meetings
- 19:53with my advisor? Am I getting advice and other areas of my financial situation
- 19:59or just having advice and investing my money? Am I getting personalized recommendations to
- 20:04my situation and as my advisor coordinating their advice with other financial professionals such as
- 20:11accountants and attorneys. So really understanding what you're paying things like that, And
- 20:15like I said, I think the key point is that the fees to just
- 20:18invest your money have come down drastically. It's really the higher fees we see
- 20:25are for the level of advice that most clients are looking for, you know,
- 20:27how much they should be saving when they can retire. Kind of all
- 20:30those tough questions. That's when you you see through that one percent range.
- 20:37Yeah, you think too of of you know, as under as we talk
- 20:40this week about understanding those fees, and as somebody once said, you you
- 20:44can't what does it say? You can't judge what you can't measure. You
- 20:48can't manage what you can't measure. And as we talk about that's the that's
- 20:52the quote there. So they talk about measuring and deciding value. Understanding what
- 20:56fees are and what those charges are are really important in making an informed decision.
- 21:02What about NATE when it comes to employer retirement accounts? What are some
- 21:06of the details in that area. Yep, I mean there are fees associated
- 21:11with these plans as well. You know, investors make educated decisions that The
- 21:17Department of Labor introduced a fiduciary rule back in twenty twelve calling for four owen
- 21:22K fees to be disclosed on statements. So this requires four owen K administrators
- 21:26to always act in the best interest of plan participants, which is good and
- 21:30it's funny when we say that to clients sometimes like, well, weren't they
- 21:33ating my best interest? And that's unfortunately not always the case depending on where
- 21:38and how you have your money investing. But the general idea with these rules
- 21:42is to keep fees low, which is a good thing. So there are
- 21:47investment related fees and four owen K plans and are generally charged as a percentage
- 21:52of assets so the AUM model. In addition to those, there are plan
- 21:56administration fees and individual service fees for taking out a loan or a hardship distribution
- 22:02or some things like that that are kind of one off fees. Now,
- 22:06some employers can choose to elect to cover some of these fees, but there's
- 22:10certain fees they can't cover. So that's why there's always this in between citing
- 22:15how much your plan charges and how much the employer covers and how much you,
- 22:18as the participant in the plan pay out of your account. So according
- 22:25to the Government Accountability Office, they found that about forty percent of four when
- 22:29K participants don't fully understand the information given in the disclosures for the plan to
- 22:33determine their fees. And I honestly think that's low. I think would guess
- 22:38would be a little bit higher, but that's not surprising. The unfortunate thing
- 22:41about our industry is we have a ton of disclosures and I really don't think
- 22:45a lot of them help the client understand, you know, they're what they're
- 22:48getting or what the costs are. But furthermore, sixty four percent are unaware
- 22:53that they pay any fees in Therefore, when K plan, and I truly
- 22:57believe that I remember years ago and obviously we've moved away from paper and now
- 23:02it's all digital, But I remember with four oh one ks, you'd always
- 23:06get like this. It was like a phone book full of like information,
- 23:08and you'd like, and I got, and I know I'm not alone in
- 23:11this. You'd you'd sit down at the at the kitchen table one night and
- 23:15just page through this thing, and you want to talk about it. You
- 23:18know, who needs who needs anything to help put you to sleep? Your
- 23:22eyes are glossing over back about halfway through the first page, like, oh
- 23:26my goodness, what is this stuff? So so Nate, Where where can
- 23:29you find fees associated with your four o one K plan? Probably deep in
- 23:33that manual, isn't it. Yeah, what Sean likes to read is called
- 23:36the summary Plan description, and that has all the that's on his bookshelf.
- 23:42You can go look for it, but that is the document pretty much.
- 23:48There's a few others, but that has the summary of the plan. There
- 23:51we go right that details you know, kind of the fees and service as
- 23:56you're getting from the plan and things like that, investment options costs associated with
- 24:00a different investments. So that's really the key word that you could ask from
- 24:04your employer or the plan record keeper to really item out these fees, so
- 24:10you know, you can look for labels such as total asset based fees,
- 24:12totals or expense ratios that Malia mentioned earlier regarding the investments in your plan and
- 24:21things like that. And unfortunately, you know, as Shane will tell you
- 24:23that these these are technical terms, so you're you know, the layperson may
- 24:27not fully understand them. But a fee is a fee at the end of
- 24:30the day, and I think we can all understand that. Oh, we
- 24:33sure do understand that part for sure. Talking this week with our retirement planning
- 24:37professionals from Claus Financial, Nate Bribe and Malia Quavis. Learn more about Class
- 24:41Financial on their website Class financial dot Com. Dolph for number six to eight
- 24:44four four two five six three seven, no charge for the initial gets no
- 24:47apployment at Class Financial, it will be complimentary to you again their number six
- 24:51to eight four four two five six three seven on the website Class financial dot
- 24:56com. That's Klaas Financial dot Com. Another fantastic feature you're of the website
- 25:00is the opportunity to submit a question online to be answered right here on the
- 25:03program and the Money in Motion listener question corner. And this week we did
- 25:08get an email from Sydney with the following question says, I recently switch jobs
- 25:14and now have access to an HSA health savings account. How much can I
- 25:18put into it? And if I don't use it, do I lose it?
- 25:22Yeah, that's a great question, and that's why everyone's fearful of putting
- 25:25a dollar in some of these accounts. I know, I'm helping my adult
- 25:29children do this and they're like, well, what if I don't use it,
- 25:30mom, And I'm like, no, it's a good thing. It's
- 25:33a good thing. So if you withdraw HSA funds, So let's be cleared
- 25:37that we're talking to health savings accounts, not the flex savings accounts. So
- 25:41if you withdraw HSA funds and you don't use them to pay for a qualified
- 25:45medical expense in the future, you would pay income tax on that and a
- 25:52penalty of twenty twenty percent. So point being is that what we see with
- 25:56our clientele is you're going to use anything that's in the Health Savings account health
- 26:00related at some point, so you don't need to worry about that. Unlike
- 26:04the FSA, the Flex savings account, there is no use it or lose
- 26:10it provision in the hsas. So if you have an HSA through an employer,
- 26:15the money in the account is yours. You can take the balance when
- 26:18you leave your job. You can roll it into an IRA account. That
- 26:22that's a question that comes up. If they can be rolled into an IRA
- 26:26account, they cannot be. And again, you want to be able to
- 26:30use the funds tax free for medical related costs at any time, So i'd
- 26:34encourage you to max out your HSA contributions if you have a plan. The
- 26:40twenty twenty three limits for those accounts are three thousand, eight hundred and fifty
- 26:44dollars for an individual or for a family seven thousand, seven hundred and fifty
- 26:48dollars. If you're over fifty five, there's an additional thousand dollars you can
- 26:52put in. And one thing that I always question is, well, if
- 26:56my employers helping contribute to my HSA plan, does that account or not?
- 27:00It does count. So you can't exceed that annual limit set by the i
- 27:04RS. So why would you want to put money into an HSA because you're
- 27:08going to lower your taxable wages for that year. Any dollars you put into
- 27:14that and you get to use it for yourself so it's a win win.
- 27:17I definitely would say, Sydney, you should take advantage of participating. Absolutely
- 27:22fantastic question, Sidney, don't for you can do two can be like Sidney.
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