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RHONY Rails Watch Party Recap with Emily and Deanna · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Drama, Darling.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Had how's everybody doing this morning? We are here up
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: in the the Los Angeles area. What I don't know what?
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: Elli County, Thank you, Elli County?
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  Speaker 2: Talking about anyway. I'm with Emily, I'm with Dianna. Deanna's
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: with Emily. Emily is with Dianna. I'm with Deanna, Deanna's
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  Speaker 2: with me. We're all together and the darlings are here.
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  Speaker 2: We are streaming live on our private YouTube channel, our
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  Speaker 2: own private island if you will.
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  Speaker 1: WHOA One week from today is the reunion, the Love
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: is Reunion, and trust it'll be legit. It's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be on two separate wars of rails better.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want anything different from that on.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I'm worried about. Is this the first ever
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: reunion for Love Island. Yes, it's what I'm what's coming
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: up for me? What's bubbling to the service.
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: Janna's a reality medium everybody, so I.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: Know, I was just gonna say it did kind of
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  Speaker 2: sound like that.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm worried about is getting into an area like
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: a Love is Blind area for the reunion. Which here's
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: the thing. It's difficult to do these reunions, and many
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: people cannot host them correctly.
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  Speaker 2: Don't we know that?
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know we can sometimes take Andy for granted,
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: but God, can he host a reunion? You know, like
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  Speaker 3: we can be in his arms and be held and
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: we're gonna be moved through it for better or for worse, to.
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  Speaker 1: Your point, and we'll get to it. Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I fucking needed.
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  Speaker 2: And that's you know, you said it, so Jersey, you
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: forget it. You were good, you know, not only that,
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: but Emily said it, and she she forgot it, and
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  Speaker 2: she wrote it and she's not forgetting it, so read it.
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  Speaker 2: And that being said, you know, we'll see. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: hope we don't get into a love is Blind thing.
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  Speaker 2: All those the people that are into that, maybe they're
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: fine with it, but we weren't. Now Love Island they were.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody was fine. No, everyone was deeply with the love
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  Speaker 3: the love is blind. Everything was so upset.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you remember, like the Trevor how bad it was,
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas like browbeat him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Nicholas. She is I hate to use this
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  Speaker 3: word useless, useless.
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  Speaker 2: Holy I never her Diana, Wow, but my whole I mean,
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: Li's blind. I'm sorry, Emily. I've never heard words come
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  Speaker 2: out of Deanna's mouth. That's strong. She's right, whoa.
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  Speaker 3: Like like Vanessa's. You know, she's fine, She's totally workable.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: She's yeah, I should do it by herself.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: She should absolutely do it by He's dead weight and
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  Speaker 3: he brings it down.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: He matches the jewel tone and brush metal. He's just
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  Speaker 1: boring as shit, like the whole he matches the motif
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  Speaker 1: of the show. She turns it up a notch and
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  Speaker 1: I would like just her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, So is Ariana who is hosting? Do we
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  Speaker 3: even know?
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I think las.
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  Speaker 3: I would accept that. That would be amazing, That's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think we should probably stop
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: talking about the love the Love Is Blind reunion and
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  Speaker 2: the kids. No, not that I don't love it. I
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  Speaker 2: love it, you know, but we might as well just
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  Speaker 2: jump right into what we've been waiting for, which is
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  Speaker 2: this uh non reunion watch party of Jersey watch party.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: It was a watch party.
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  Speaker 3: Watch watch party really takes out, you know, like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it does. It's because.
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  Speaker 1: When they presented it I thought it was going to
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  Speaker 1: be like vander Pump, where we have some kind of
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  Speaker 1: conversation and then at the end they're going to see
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  Speaker 1: the last ten minutes. That's what I thought was. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize it was going to be just us watching
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  Speaker 1: them watch the episode, right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we're starting from beginning. I don't
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: really I'm not like really in the mood to watch
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  Speaker 2: the whole finale right now, you know. That's like where
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: my head was at. And then to have it come
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  Speaker 2: to a conclusion of you know, the picture and everyone's like,
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: all righty and that's a wrap, and Danielle is just like,
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  Speaker 2: no regrets, I regret not fucking murdering her. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is so low. It was just so garbagey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I would like, maybe you could put it
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  Speaker 1: up on the chat. I can't see the chat, but
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  Speaker 1: if you what table do people or what room do
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  Speaker 1: you guys wish she were in?
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, darlings, like, let's do it, Yeah, Emily, let's
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  Speaker 2: let's start with you. Do you want to be in
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  Speaker 2: the mosaic room with Margaret, Danielle, Rachel, and Melissa. Yes, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: or do you want to be in the downstairs room.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know where we were. Wait, Dolores went upstairs. Yeah, okay,
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: so or in the other room with Teresa, Jennifer Aiden
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  Speaker 2: and Dolores and Jackie.
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  Speaker 3: I would plant myself next to Fessler. That's just where
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  Speaker 3: I would be. I would be sidled up next to
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  Speaker 3: Fessler and dealing with her. I'm not even I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: get more specific than even the room. I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 3: you the gal who I want to sit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is specific.
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  Speaker 1: Her energy when she's late to a function is palpable,
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  Speaker 1: like she was pissed she was late.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also because she practicing her you know the
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  Speaker 2: reason why she was home practicing her song so long.
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  Speaker 2: That's why she was late. There's no reason why a
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  Speaker 2: friend of would be that late. And I'm behind a truck.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: That was funny. I mean, it was definitely relatable. You
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed that, Deanna that she was late.
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  Speaker 3: I did because we didn't have much So that was.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, somebody being late. It was It was.
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  Speaker 3: The way she walked in the attitude she had. I
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: loved the chral dress. And then you know, I can't
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: tell if this gal I don't know if she what
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  Speaker 3: she thought the show she thought she was getting on,
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: But damn if she doesn't seem so annoyed. Like Danielle
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: you know, is built for this show. But you get
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: the feeling that she wants to be included in an
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  Speaker 3: additional season if there is one. You know, she's still
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  Speaker 3: like trying.
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  Speaker 2: To work, you know, the guitar. She learned the guitar
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: so that she could sing a little ditty at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the season. That was her goal. God love her,
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I love it. Yeah, let's bring the talent show,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, give us something. God, they didn't even
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  Speaker 2: cut that song. We had to hear verse chorus, verse chorus,
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  Speaker 2: verse chorus.
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  Speaker 3: What I didn't hear a song?
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear a song?
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: You're kidding me right now? Right?
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: No?
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, you don't even know what I'm talking about.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: No, I so weird. I try to hope it worked out.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So wait it was in last night?
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  Speaker 3: Did I?
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  Speaker 2: I watched this morning on Peacock.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look at you. This is an edited scene. This
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  Speaker 1: was not a.
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  Speaker 2: Brabo, so okay. Katie on the comment says the song
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  Speaker 2: was only on peacock. Oh okay, well that makes so
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  Speaker 2: much more sense than.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I was like dropping out. I was just like
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: I miss something so essential and I don't know how
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: to come clean right now. Like I was like, maybe
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: I do go over to the other room because I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're you're heavy, like allegiance to Fessler, and
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: yet a huge chunk of what happened you don't even
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  Speaker 2: you're not even aware and you're sitting right now. I
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: lost your mic. We lost your mic, Deanna, but we
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  Speaker 2: will pause, we'll keep going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see like a clip. I didn't click
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  Speaker 1: on it. I just saw what you're talking about, just
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: like an image did I just I don't know. I
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: just didn't put it all together because I was so fast. Yeah,
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: why would you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no reason somebody to show that plays
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: songs for gods. Okay, well that totally makes sense. So
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: on the regular version they didn't include that song. Well
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: that makes me feel a little bit better because I
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: was like, she sang a song about the season and
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: on her guitar, and that's that. So my point being
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: is that what.
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  Speaker 3: Festlo Danielle did, because remember.
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  Speaker 1: She was learning guitar this season that was her big
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  Speaker 1: arc was the guitar.
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  Speaker 3: That, Yeah, how did she sound? That is so bizarre?
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Look she it was like a great, like cute Little
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: Housewives talent show, and you know, like it was just
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  Speaker 2: lighthearted and you know, she had her moments, so good
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  Speaker 2: for her. But like, but my point being is that
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was in the actual version and I
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: was like, well, they need to fill up time, so
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  Speaker 2: they're literally gonna make us listen to this whole song,
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  Speaker 2: not even in a thirty second chunk. Like it was,
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: like I said, verse chorus, verse, chorus, verse chorus. I mean, Wendy,
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: you have time for that to do like the.
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  Speaker 1: Full you know, and you have a deal with Peacock,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: and like because they're separate, I mean, there's.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: No that makes sense. It's on Peacock, right.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: And I bet you Peacock's like, we need reunion. You
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: promise X amount of content, And so I wonder if
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: they're like, uh okay.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: So well as far as like who I would want
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  Speaker 2: to be sitting with, I want to sit next to
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  Speaker 2: Dolores A little disappointed that she wasn't in the other
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  Speaker 2: room a little more because like, so here I'm I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be in the same room with Jen
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  Speaker 2: and Jackie. I wouldn't mind being the same room with Teresa.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. So I'll
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  Speaker 2: I'll take Teresa and Dolores in that room. But then
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: over there. I'm still mad at Danielle Cabrala because of
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: how she acted with the picture and then having absolutely
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  Speaker 2: no remorse in this episode by saying she wishes that
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't have killed Jen. You know, well, that's what
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: her regret was at the very end. Her regret is
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: that she regrets she didn't actually kill her. And then
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: later she was like, okay, fine, because somebody was pushing
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: me Sea like Pleaseessa.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: Was like, but when you think about it, yeah, She's like,
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: but let me thread the needle here and let's really
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: drill down on your human being and you know, you
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: shown up like she had to hit her a lot
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: of different ways.
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  Speaker 2: And she finally was like, okay, fine, But you know, Danielle,
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I'm still upset about so. And but I love Margaret
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: and I'd want to be near Margaret, you know, so
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: it's tough.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: Wow, I'm happy Margaret has you.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I just really this is where
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: we needed the reunion because we needed to see the timeline,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: the screenshots, the receipts, and that. Then we're left here,
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  Speaker 2: going February twenty twenty one. Jackie is saying that she
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: met with the X and then she did that because
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: she wanted some you know, obviously ammunition to go against
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Teresa for the Evan thing. And then once that was dropped,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: she completely dropped the whole you know, talking to the X.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: And now she's accusing Margaret in this episode this that
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: it was that she was talking to this ex all lot,
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: all the time. That she's saying a lot all the time,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't just after twenty twenty one, it was
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: before the reunion essentially, and Margaret is saying, no, that's
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  Speaker 2: not at all what happened. And this is what's really frustrating,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: is that who's lying? Because somebody's lying.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Not Margaret. And you know how I know it's not
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  Speaker 1: Margaret because that moment in the last episode where they
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  Speaker 1: all knew Margaret, they all trusted Margaret, in that moment
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: when Jackie was full blown screaming denial right right, and
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: they're all looking at each other like.
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  Speaker 2: Even jen Aiden, which was talking yeah right, she was like,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: we need to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they all do. And then there was something else
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  Speaker 1: that I was really oh, you know. There was a
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  Speaker 1: moment also where I was like, oh, so don't say
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: that they're liars because you do believe them, which was
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: when Teresa something. They showed the clip of Melissa saying
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: that Louie's niece came up to them in a restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: and Teresa said then at rails and while watching, oh
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  Speaker 1: that's really nice. I can't wait to tell Louie Junior
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: the kid what his cousin said about him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not not. Melissa's full of shit.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, right, so, you know that's that would
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  Speaker 3: be my instinct, interesting would be that's not that's just
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: a fan who's trying to mix it up. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's not a real cousin or niece.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I would not.
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  Speaker 3: My instinct would not be, oh, that's a real part
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  Speaker 3: of his family.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: If I was Teresa, I would And I thought, I'm
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: going with the character that she's developed for Melissa, yes
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: to your yes, Dianna is exactly your full deniability. But
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: she didn't. She was like she took it and was like, Oh,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: that's real nice of this niece.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I know, and it seems like she knew exactly which
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: one it was.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, it sounds like there is a niece
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: that is a disgruntled niece that has caused issues before
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: and that they've had to deal with this head on.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: So I think that she's a next week on Lifetimes
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Original Movies, The Disgruntled Niece.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: She's a disgruntled niece.
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  Speaker 2: Starring Bethany Frankel, Cynthia Dailey, Lisa Rinna.
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  Speaker 1: Fish, graphic designer.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: We need he's here, He's here, I might love you
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  Speaker 2: my Yeah. So, yeah, it's interesting she will pick and
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: choose what she wants to believe, and she she not
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: only believed it, but she somehow already knew of it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and then going back to your original question,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think Margaret's full of shit. I don't think
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Melissa is full of shit. I mean, yeah, they might
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: blur the line sometime, but there, but at the core,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: they had a reason they were pissed and it was
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: very real and and I think everybody knows that around
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: that table.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Can I say one thing about Teresa in this episode,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: just at the top, just to just to keep us in,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: like the light light love, love love, you know, just
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: to have a little levity. It's the most beautiful she's
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: ever looked.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Oh she looked gorgeous. Gorgeous.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Was we found it? We got there. There was what
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: we've been seeing this whole season has been a level
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: of contouring.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Danielle too.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Danielle. Her hue was demented.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like there are so many layers happening on the
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: cheekbones that they're turning colors. They're going, it's going anyway,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: but go back to.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's an ombre effect.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Theresa.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I thought her hair and her makeup, I just thought
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I've not seen her love this good in forever. And
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I actually I thought I was thinking she had like
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: carved out cheek or done something surgical, and which I'm
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: sure she has, but like what I saw last night,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, that's not surgery, that's just wore
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: contour that we've been looking at all season.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, No, that's a great point.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I think she was also very stressed out. I think
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: this Louis shit is wearing around, and that's the vibe.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: She didn't look bad to me, She just looked tired
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: this season, like she just looked like and also, don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: forget like our girls were moving out, like going away,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: like all that's really hard. So I do think she
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: was going through it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: She probably had five pounds on her, which was great.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: But I am going to go have to grab a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: screen grab at some point for us at a later date,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: because what was happening with the contour guys, Like, I
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: really do.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Need to grab side by Yeah, the last rails, Yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: the last.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Rails, the last rails, thank you?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, But my favorite Teresa look and one of
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I think my number one most favorite reunion look. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: mean it might change over decades, but that last three
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: year with her in the yellow lace like pantsuit thing,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that the golden yellow with the bob haircut. I loved it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, remember shet that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's stunning. Yeah, she's a beautiful woman. She's
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: just a beautiful lady.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: You know, she's gorgeous New Jersey.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: She's gorgeous New Jersey.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hang out with her.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: But yes, okay, you guys, hold on just one second.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I know we're talking about Jersey right now, but I
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: need to talk about gorgeous California and what I am
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: obsessed with right now, Jenny Cain, thank you so much.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with your clothes. I am living for Jenny Kine.
• 19:41
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  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: The thing is like with Teresa and I get mad
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: about Melissa, you know, when she was like, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: they learned from the best white trash and I was like, uh,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: it's just you know, when she does stuff like that,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: it really makes me run at Teresa's arms, you know.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But whatever, but that pose off is worth it. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: let me just mention that when we realize that the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: pretty close to the beginning that Danielle and Teresa, over
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the course of wrapping the season and then showing up
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: at rails, they have a falling out and according to Danielle,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: she says that they were just fine and then all
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: of a sudden one day, Teresa posted a cast photo
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: which I remember seeing and everyone's faces on the other
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: team from the other room scratched out, including Danielle. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: she was like, I need a break from you, so,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you know, and Teresa, I think we had an answer,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: which was that she was saying in the media that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: she was starting to go against Teresa. But I thought,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: but did she do that before the scratched faces? I'm
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: so confused about that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I was too, because Teresa in the room said I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened. She just like cut me off
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and like she's like, I didn't see anything in this
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: season that would have It was weird. It was that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: as though Teresa didn't want like even acknowledge the social
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: media part, like that's also part of this Teresa, like right,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And did Andy say something too, like the real problems
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: with Jersey were happening on social media? Was he talking
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: about Jersey?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he was like, it wasn't what was happening
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: on screen. It was all the shit on social media.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: But you know that never even bubbled up, that never
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: even bubbled up into it. It was so separate that
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: it never even made its way into the season. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the fact that the season ended an episod, so fourteen
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: being the non reunion, as Mike said, had we gone further,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: maybe it would have. But Dana, what were you gonna
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: say about the Danielle and Teresa thing?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Because no, I think that probably a producer needed to
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: run that information over to Teresa, because listen, they're posting
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: a lot and Danielle didn't say, Hey, Teresa, you scratched
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: my face out. We're not going to have lunch next week?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: You know, she just said I need some time. Oh right, right,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: so Teresa, you know, who knows what Teresa knows? She
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: posts and doesn't post. And I think we needed that,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: like someone to go, hey, Teresa, Danielle's saying you scratched
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: her face out and posted it and that's why she
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: was upset, you know, and have her respond to that,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: because I don't think she connected.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: The Teresa would not be able to open her phone
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and figure out how to edit, draw, get the proper
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: width of marker and scribble out those faces. That's just
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: something that Teresa wouldn't be able to do.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: It's not available to her.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, well who did it? Who did it?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Just an assistant, yeah, one of her people, but she
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: probably did so. I think that somebody one of her
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: friends did that, sent it to Teresa as a joke.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: She was like, that's so funny, Yeah, post it, you
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: know exactly like or you know, I don't know. But
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: for her to not acknowledge her posting that and that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: not getting you know, washed out here.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Was only only Teresa could be on a series this
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: long and not realize the ramifications of posting that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Of course she's not, you know, she doesn't watch the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: show historically, right, she probably isn't posting for herself approval schmovel.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: She probably looks at it as she's driving the kid.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just that would be a job for
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: a producer to take care of because there are a
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: lot of details, and you that's what you need somebody
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: to kind of like do that and sit down in
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the reunion.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the reunions.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked our question.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: How the because it was Bravo's decision to not do
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: a reunion, you know what I mean. So all these
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: producers from the production company are probably sitting here going, yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: we would have loved to have done this, thank you
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: very much, like they took it from us, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: what a cheat for them.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we would have loved the two weeks of work
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: because it would have been all the prep going.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Cutting off that episode fourteen, okay, Emily.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Looking Out, Looking Out.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Also loved, loved Darling. I loved the beginning of the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: episode when they were all arriving to reels and all
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of the producers coming out, and we saw our friend
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Christa Rosa, oh stunning Jersey with that he was the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: one in the all black with a gold necklace, and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you know, welcoming in many Teresa, right, But and then
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: we got to see the other producers like get you know, getting,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have you in the mosaic room, I'm going
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to have you over here. What room do you want
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to be in? So it was just really neat to see.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I liked that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I love those scenes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with more of that we would have
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: we needed to. I personally, with the watch party, had
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: a really hard time with watching and knowing where we
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: were and like watching this show and then knowing, wait,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the shore, I'm looking at the reaction.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I just found which room am I in?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I found it difficult for me. I did. I was
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: really having a hard time getting settled into what was
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: happening and who I was looking at and what team
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I was observing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I kept waiting for the show to start. I'm like, Okay,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna we're this montage with them watching and
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna get into it. Yeah right, and nope, No,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna watch this in real time and then
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: this is the end of this season.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Having the producers pop in during that watch party, I
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: think would have been amazing. More of that, like more
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: of the welcome in, you know, welcome in.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: This is the ladies. I'll say that thanks.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: When Jen Fessler arrived late and she walks into that room,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to the Mosaic room, and and she's immediately attacked by Danielle,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that was fun. You know, she hasn't even sat down yet,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and Danielle is just be like, you know, uh, you
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: took someone's side, you know, it took it. And then
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Fessor's like, I just got here. I was behind a truck.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: She was tensed.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was so mad.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is the reason why I was like,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: this is not about anything except for her being pissed
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that she didn't have control over her entrance and getting
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: there on time. Like you can tell she needs to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: get there twenty minutes early just to chill. Yeah, because
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: she wanted to apologize to Danielle right right, so mad
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that she was late. Yeah, but yeah, I.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Was like forced into it immediately. She was like, I
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: will get my bearings. Yeah, I will get that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I know why you like Fessler so much, Deanna, because
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: really there are a lot of shades of her that
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: are similar to you.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think she's it's like watching one
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: of us on a reality show. That's how I feel
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: with Fessler, you know, totally yeah, because I like that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I like that regular person with their wits about them,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: who's managing their way through that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: She's the Ariana of Jersey. Like she's just like the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: one I identify with. I mean, I know she hands
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it up here and there, but like in terms of
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: like we would, I'm leaving now, you can either break
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: glass or break or break bread. I'm out, Like that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: is what I would do.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: That's Emily's that would be you, you know, come out.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: You would take your little envelope clutch and march on out.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I don't like that she left. That bothered me, so
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you know fair, I mean, I respectfully disagree. But oh
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: uh c k success, says Sfesser, look like a million bucks.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: On this on this past episode. I agree. That was
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: just the ear rings were so chic, the bracelet, the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: cuff bracelet, the the calf Tanny style, simple, very Santropez.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It was. It was awesome.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So but now okay, so, so Fessler comes and
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: then she finally like and and I'm sorry, And now
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I've watched it back and I'm sorry, I fully agree
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: with you and I was wrong, and it's like okay, okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: so now we got that out of the way.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You know, but nobody called Teresa out either in terms
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, where's your sorry about clearly not representing
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: John Fuda the way she said she did, Like remember
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that whole thing, the whole reason Rachel's pissed, Like none
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of that got cleared up.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I did, didn't think about it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I left Fuda and and I've left him with his
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: like you know, phone marrow.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's still working that out. Yeah, as long in
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the past for me.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Guess I think he's just still I have him sitting
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: in that chair rejecting medical help.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, asking for Valiant. Yeah yeah, yeah, as far as
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned the fodos in the past, you know they are.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: But that was really like it's like, at some point
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you do have to add these things up in front
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: of Teresa and watch how she rejects them. That is entertainment,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Like when you like at a reunion, when you roll
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it all. Jackie's the perfect example, roll out all the evidence.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Jackie is your villain.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: But that's fine.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I know, it's so crazy. It's so crazy.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: To Jackie, and she came out with what felt like
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: additional incriminating information episode.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh you were. She was like, well,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: we were hanging out her in the X like we
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: were kicking it. Yeah, early, Yeah, but you know, there
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: was just a sense that it was a I don't know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: it just felt like she had spent some good time
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: with Louise's X quality.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: You could see Teresa's wheels turning too, because she asked
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the follow up question or two and she did could Yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: she was like and but you know, I can't really
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: remember what she said, but she was like and that
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: was when and that and like this how long? And
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Jackie's like it's been years, It's been a year. But
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like you could tell Teresa's marked it. Sometimes you're so right,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: everything comes to focus for her.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And it's a it's a floy I mean, she just
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: needs the numbers. So she's going to welcome in Jackie
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to her side because she needs the numbers and she
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: needs ammunition against Margaret. That is the only reason why
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: she's allowing Jackie to get close to them and be
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: over there in that room. There's no other reason.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And and this whole, Like, well, I understand because I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: went after Evan. She's saying that because it's a great
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: way to justify having her on her side. But you're right, Emily,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: we saw it. We saw everything churning in her brain.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: She has clocked it, and it will last as long
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: as it lasted with like when she brought Danielle Stob back.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: You know, these are the types of things like, that's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: what she does. It makes sense. So Megan El says,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: does Jackie know she's on television? She looks terrible? Yeah?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Y did she look terrible?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I mean she's not looking great, you know, Okay, you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: mean as a person?
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Got it?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, I don't know how she meant that.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Did you mean, Megan, her looks or her her person
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: or how she's coming across. Probably how she's coming across,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: because she's looking real bad. Yeah, horrible? Does she know
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: she's on TV? Great question, Geez, Louise.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I think like she also, Jackie. If you're gonna go
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: on her physicality, I think she looks fine. But her
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: only focus once the camera rolls is Teresa's allegiance and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Teresa's acceptance. So there's no confidence in that shell happening.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So it's like whatever she walked out like walked in
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with like, which is like Jackie walks into the room breezy,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and the second Teresa comes in, it's like, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like it takes away.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Well when Jackie my dog, my dog guy is here
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: with my dog. Let me just make sure I thought
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: he knew I opened it. Hold on, just don't find
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: me for one second.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, no problem, You do what you gotta do.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say something that you can't Ordiana. I
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: won't be ignored.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: When Jackie walked into that room and she sat down
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: next to Teresa and she said, you know, I'm not gonna.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I decided, and you know, talking with her eyes closed.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I decided, I'm not going to add toxicity to this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, you know, I'm just gonna and I'm
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: with my real friends. I was like rolling over, thinking.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: You're with Sorry, Professler, you don't.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: This is this is a a paper bag that's blowing
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: in the wind, you know what I mean? Over to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: one side. It take it took so little to get
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: her to go over there, and it's it's such a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: display of weakness that I hate to see it because
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you want women to be empowered. But she's showing some
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: some weakness here, and it's hard to watch her real friends.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is hard because her Infessler have such a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: bond out of this and have such a They have
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: their show, they have the podcast, and they tour with that,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: don't they.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: So I don't even know who knows that that podcast
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: is still going. Who knows these things come and go,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But you're right, they do. They've got this podcast.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: So I feel like, at the end of the day,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: though she threw that podcast under the bus, if it
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: meant that Teresa was inviting her over on a regular.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Basis, Oh my god, Ezy told her to choose success,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: says why did Teresa and jen Aiden turn on Fessler?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't understand this recent fallout between them. Well,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: they must have turned because Fessler made a choice to
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: after seeing the show. She took Danielle's side, and so
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: by default, I think that's why she's against Teresa. I mean, right, yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I think because she's in that mosaic room with the other.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: And I get the vibe Befessler left them, like she
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: shows us over and over again, she has fun with
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the show, but she doesn't need it. And although sometimes
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it's thirsty a little, she doesn't need it. And I think, like,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I think I misread her being open to being friends
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: with them as thirsty, but I don't think overall she
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I think she gets a low thirsty scorer because I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: agree she doesn't need it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she she doesn't. And I think she is on
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: like you are on a program. You know, she's also
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: an adult. And I say that genuinely, you know, like
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: not everyone on.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: That cast is mature.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: And yeah, she's there's such a difference between her and
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I never remember her name. God damn it, Fuda wife, Rachel.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Are weight, left wings are I mean, sorry.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So sad? Sorry, but her, like you can just tell
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: it's like a mature person versus a young person. It's
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: like I can actually move about the cabin and have
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: friendships and get to know people and maintain loyalty. That's
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: that is actually possible right now.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So when Margaret when they're watching back a scene, uh, well,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and we'll get to the see you next Tuesday scene
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: when they rewatch that. But when Margaret is watching a
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: scene and she's like, oh my poor dead dog, I mean,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I did you die? Like, I mean, that was so funny.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I know, it was.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: So sad, and just the way she said it was
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: just it was a sweet, sweet acknowledgment and with humor,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: and I just appreciate that about her. But Dolores, how
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: when they watch that see You Next Tuesday scene.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, was wild to see And and Teresa was like,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: and that scene is it's angry before?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Like that was.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Wild to see that Teresa has never seen her that
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: angry before, because I know none of us have, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: it was shocking. You all have not that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Remember I said it on the Darling stread. There's a
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: montage of Jersey from past seasons of Dolores getting pissed.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, and yet welcome back to sum bag.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, but like like really, but like it
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: happens so infrequently that you do forget that she has
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: it in her and I will see, Yes, maybe this
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: was the most but she does go there.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: She goes there but with like someone we lost your mic.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Come on, it's exciting. These are the exciting things, you know.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I well, I don't I haven't seen her. I understand
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: It's like, welcome beck'scumbbag. I understand that, but this was
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: We've never heard her say kunt and let her switch
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: that fast. I've never seen her lips curl under like that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: So for me, no, yeah, I've seen anger come out
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of her.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And it seems the Montage I think what's doing is
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: making it about Margaret. I like, Margaret's the only one
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that got you here. Look how pissed.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I agree with both of you guys, because I did
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: watch the Montage. I live because you're a montage queen,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: montage queen plug. I live for when Dolores goes in,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: like when she went in on Jackie when they were
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: and she was like, what are you going to do
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: about it? I was like, oh, like that is just
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: that last season or two three seasons now maybe yeah, yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: when they were at that beer tasting or whatever it was,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: when she go when you see the Patterson come out,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: it's exciting. But what I haven't seen and her going
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: screaming at Danielle, old Danielle. That's just normal to me
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: because Danielle chaos maker, you know, right, right, yeah, right?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: The way she went from zero to one hundred with
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: a pal felt.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: New Yeah, and to find out one another piece of
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: information we hadn't found out was that she had just
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: come from the James J. Leonard briefing, you know, And
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: that was interesting because she explained, She's like, I just
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: come from that. It's far end of the season. She
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: had hit her level, you know what I'm saying. So
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: she hit a wall and that putting that contact on
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: it made a lot more sense. But that, even watching
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: it back again was so crazy to see because I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: was like, Margaret's eyes were shifting, like I told you,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and I was like, did she like this was at
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: some point I was like, she's looking kind of shifty,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: like did she tell her? But no, I think she did. Again.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: It was like a miscommunication thing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And it is Dolores in her interview afterwards saying that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: now she knows more. That was worse to me than
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: her calling her see you next two.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it stuck. I mean it was later reflected now.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: But did you hear Margaret at Rails in last night's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: episode She doesn't want them to know that she knew
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: about it, And that's what Margaret said, and I was like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that's what we said last week. It was like Delores
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: told Louis and Theresa's something, and now she's got to
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: go to fucking eleven at Margaret's house to say, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: didn't know about it. You never told me. I remember.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Our theory was that she he is afraid of Louis
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and said that she basically had no idea that there
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: was going to be an ambush of this whatever. And
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: so last night while they were watching it, Margaret says,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: she's going so hard or something because she told them
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that she didn't know anything about this thing at my
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: house or whatever.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: But what was wild is for her to be denying that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: She's like, they didn't know. Delores took our that point
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: that we were making, which I still believe, yeah, and
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: really poopooted like they didn't know anything about it that
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: had had it had to do with principle, and it
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: just she completely separated from that theory altogether, which was
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: weird to see.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I think at the I think Margaret, when she invited
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Delores gave her deniability. She maybe didn't lay out exactly
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: what they were going to talk about. We're going to
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: get ready for the reunion and just kind of have
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: some more dervs and talk about it. We're just gonna, like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you know, talk about the things that were going through.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think, and so it kind of gave and
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Margaret I think consciously probably gave her that and absolute debility.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, that's why it was such a loose invitation,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: and that's why Dolores didn't pick up on it. Why
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: it was so Yeah, so it was it was the
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: way that Margaret presented it in a non presentational way.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: That that's why, and deliberately so, which is why Dolores
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: never hurt it as such. And she has plausible deniability
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: for that invitation, whereas Margaret has plausible proof that she
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: said it, but she buried it, you know. So yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: it's like they're both right, Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: She would want Delores to be there very much so ideally, yeah, yes.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: But I think that they're both that I think or
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: a step down nos, And I think that she it
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: makes more sense to her on this from that reunion
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to say she didn't know because she doesn't want the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: fucking backlash from Louie. Hell so, I think that's still
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the motivating factor. It's not like I didn't realize. I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: think she right.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, when Melissa was interesting in the scene when
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: she was like, I'm so confused. Did I miss something?
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Because that's kind of how we felt. We're like, whoa,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: why is this going from zero to one thousand?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Because she once it's spelled out more too, she knows too,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And that was how we felt. We're like, why what
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: There's more to this? So when Dolores says after that
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: scene runs and everybody, I think Theresa was probably pleased
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: as punch to see her calling Margaret to see you
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: next Tuesday, saying with jen Aiden. But then she takes
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a napkin down and she's like, all right, let's listen.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I know Margaret is probably really upset about a dog,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you know, and you know Bella, so I'm going to
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: just go up and check on her. Which I was like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: this is a masterclass in yes, in being able to
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: have play, not play both sides, but being able to
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: move from one side to the other, because she was
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: on such good footing with that side after calling Margaret
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to see you next Tuesday that now she was like,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: now's my perfect opportunity. I'm just gonna say it's about
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the dog. That's the right thing to do. They'll understand it.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: There's a dog involved, so a dead dog involved. So
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go and you know, give my condolences,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: and the fact that she left it was like, damn,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: she's good, right.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: But I was expecting more of that because when you
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: were told about this rails meeting, we were told that
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Fessler and Dolores were the go betweet right.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Fesler never left that room to go down to the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: downstairs room.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I was, Yeah, that was kind of
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a bummer.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was confusing when I forget who asked, but
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: they were like, well Melissa asked Fessler, do you want
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: to go over to the other room, and just like,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I'm good right here. But then it seems like there
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: was a world in which Marge end or Melissa We're
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: gonna saunter over there and say something. And I was like, what,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: That's what would they do?
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: That doesn't that's yeah, I don't know, you know, you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I say what, I know what you mean. At any point,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I thought, once this show starts, they're going to be
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: getting up and changing and talking. But yeah, it just
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: didn't happen.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Because nobody can be with each other. They don't feel
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: compelled to sunter in.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: No, they were in.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: If there was a reunion though, that's the thing. They
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: would have done it. They all get they get it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: They would have done it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, of course, including Jen Ayden. Who's who will
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: stay in a scene? I mean, no, I know, I know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: By the way, what the fuck is that voice she's
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: been putting on? That may West fucking Harry the horse
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: from Guys and Dolls? It is, And I mean, can
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: a bad community theater audition for Guys and Dolls? Yeah?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: No, get a DJ airhorn for that. It's like, you know, yeah,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: it's very it's very it's very Yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: She's she's was just the think like no, oh god, yeah,
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: they come up to me, I'm going to pop them
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: in the nos like what are you like that?
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Yo? So I was I was walking into Bronx and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: it was a Bronx tale. Ah. I wish I could
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: do it better, but baby, you're.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Going because it's it's an abstraction, but it's correct.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: It's so odd like yeah, yes, it's very like Gangstery,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: you know, it's yeah, yeah.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: But it's nineteen forties. Yeah, it's not good Fellas, it's
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: not of this time. Yeah, it's not all right.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Baby, you know, it's like that what you're talking about?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Who are you talking to? Even Teresa's like, eh, what
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: are you saying?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: We haven't gotten a real moment from Jen in so
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: many moods, you know.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's why I don't want her on the show. Yeah,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Like I know, yeah, because it's like, not only is
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: she not real, she's also mean and I don't want
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to watch it.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and they're all mean, but for somewhat good reason.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: But she just is just, you know, saying stuff to
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: say stuff that's.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Like making fun of like people not having as much
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: money as her, Like that kind of thing is gross. Yeah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I also have to say I didn't like, go ahead,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: go ahead to you.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, Emily is getting a lot
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: of shout outs for her work here.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Positioning for part of those guys and dolls.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: My god, she's the lost jet from West Side Stories.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: That is perfect.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: That's really good. That's really good. You said that Mike
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: grabbing artists.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, j is so so good.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: It's so stupid, Like what is she doing?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, at least she's leaning into it. Yeah,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I wish we would have out I wish we would
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: have like pinpointed this or Emily pinpointed it early on
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: the season. Gosh, darn the lost time that we could
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: have had with our laughs on this. But whatever, we'll
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: we'll thread this into other episodes. So okay, when they start,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: when they bring up the Louis suffers, the Louis scene
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: about suffering, the kids suffering, yep. When Dolores brings up like, no,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: that's wrong, you know, Teresa's like, immediately defensive, don't don't
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: take Margaret's side, and I thought, wow, this is gonna
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: starting to heat up between Teresa and Dolores, And I
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: was a little bit worried for a second there, very
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: impressed that Dolores stuck to that by saying pointing out,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: this is going to be very bad for Louis. This
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: is going to be very bad. He better apologized or
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: something like that. And then Teresa taking it and being like, okay,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I'll have apologized was unbelievable.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: I mean not just I was impressed with I'll have
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: him apologized to Margaret like yeah, oh, we didn't know
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: that was available, you know, to us, it was that
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: was actually shocking, and it did speak to their long
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: term friendship that Dolores could get her to that point.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I thought incredible, a miracle, some would say America, because
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: he didn't apologize her.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah she is. Yeah, yeah he posted but uh that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: was pretty recent though, right that post.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened after the after that episode, after the Finecer,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: so he had to wait until we all saw it
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: and then yeah. So but he still justified it, you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, he still justified why he said that. And
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: while he was apologizing, which.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Was annoying Marge giving her the sign of the Cross.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I felt it. I was like, yes, sprinkle whole water,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: you know, just this was bad. We need to save
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: it down.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really Yeah, everyone was shocked to see that,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: which understandably so, Cindy says. Speaking of Louis, has anyone
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: seen the video clip of his latest foot in mouth
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: moment on Teresa's podcast about how trees, doorters doors should
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: go out on the town in their thongs and short skirts. Yes,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: good god, Yeah, yeah I didn't hear it, but I
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: saw the headlines.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: He said basically there they he was basically saying. I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: got his point in that he was saying, like, these
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: gals should live their life and not and like be
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: that age where you just don't care and you go out.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: But I'm also like to at any age, you can
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: do it at any like. I'm just kind of like
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: they can. But but uh, I just thought like, okay,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: that's all. There's other ways you express yourself.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Sexual. I mean, yeah, it's an odd take when you're
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: a stepfather. You're coming in with these girls. I see
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: them on social media. They are not you know, they're
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: not in Mormon gear. They're they're pretty or amish or
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: what you know. They're they're wearing their crops and their
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: little this and their makeup and all that. So I
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: don't think that they seem like they need permission to
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: have their ass cheeks out from their stepfather. I mean,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: I just found it to be a bizarre take. Yeah.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Well, especially because we're receiving it hearing it as the US,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: which is who it was for, because it's on the podcast.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: There's you know, we're gonna go the wrong way with
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it because it's bizarre.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: They kept it in. They could have just taken it out.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Joe Judice was like, yeah, it was weird. He's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: a nice guy, met him a few times, but that
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: was weird, Like you've commented something that yeah, I saw
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: like a screen grab of yeah, yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I mean just like Joe Judaice doesn't want you thinking
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: about his girls and how much they are are not showing.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: It's a weird fucking take.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: You know, it goes It's in the same category as
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: wearing Teresa's dad's pajamas so that the girls can feel
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: close to him.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: It is the same category.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: It's like, now I'm getting really creeped out.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fucking weird.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: This goes to show how capable of bizarre behavior. He
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: is just another example of just out of left field.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And and I'll be the first to admit I can
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: say weird things, do weird things. God knows. Emily loves
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: a prank, you know.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, day like you know, you know I'm not hidden
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: here now, we don't even like.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to give all of us, you know, just
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: regretting certain things that I do on a daily basis.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: But like those are some red flag weirdness things. You know.
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: It's odd, Yes, because what he was trying to communicate,
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: I believe was like I am so.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Such a feminist that I want women to completely you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: be themselves and live out loud like that. I think
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: was sort of how he was trying to approach it,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: like I'm so for these girls, take your titties out
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: and just run around because this is the time, and
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: it's just.
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: Like, yeah, you could also just let them wear what
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: they're comfortable with.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think they need your permission. They you know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: they are being reared on reality show and a reality
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: TV and seem quite comfortable in their bodies. Like this
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: isn't your area to get involved with.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Let this this is why like as wild as Vanessa
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the X is, I'm like, Louie, I'm sure just had
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: better representation in this case. Yes, oh absolutely, because I'm
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: sure he did some insane shit like if we're seeing
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: when the cameras are on and we're catching this stuff
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: like can you imagine the cameras are off? Forget it?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Put a pin in that Louis thing, because I do
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: want to circle back to that. But at the end,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: when everyone was mentioning, you know, regrets and things like that,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: because we're already to the end, Rachel says, I wish
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I would have exposed Louie more. Well, I mean, I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's a very good regret because she
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: would be in a lawsuit right now had she tried,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I would imagine. And then Jackie asks Teresa if there's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: a path forward for her and Margaret, and Teresa says
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: if she gets on her knees and begs forginness, which
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I know Margaret would never do. And then later Melissa's like,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I've never been happier. And you know, when somebody says
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: that it's not true, you know, it's it's gonna be
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: awkward and hard for her to live her life with
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Teresa in her life or without her her in her life.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: It's you know, she's just just spouting these things off,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: and it was always kind of funny to me. And
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Melissa keeps mentioning like it's over, it's done. I'm like,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: why are you It's like we don't even need to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: mention that we saw that last season, you.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I don't. It's interesting because like, I really
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: feel like Melissa is in a category by herself because
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I think she operates like she doesn't need the show,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: but she needs the show, and so she always gets
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: to that line, and I think at this point she
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: almost is like calling the producer's bluff, like they're not
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: going to fire me. They can't fire me. I keep
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Teresa relevant. They're not going to do it, you know
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's a weird thing. It is. Yeah,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: but now is it confirmed? It's just going to be
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Dolores and Teresa back.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: It's nothing confirmed, no confirmation.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Delores is like I would love this job to continue,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: thanks so much.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I kind of said that that.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do appreciate that.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's honest. It's all that is. Yeah, And
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I do think that Melissa. I'm trying to think and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. Correct me. Is there any gotcha moment?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Like we have a million with Teresa where it's like,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: see Teresa, see here's all the evidence you lied or
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: are wrong. But I'm not a big Melissa fan, but
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I can't think of many moments like that with Melissa.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: There's all these accusations every season about her. There's always
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: another guy on the side or like some or you know,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: some crazy accusation and the evidence just never presents itself. No,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: and she's just kind of boring, which I don't mind.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't quite get the dynamics. And then like
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: take it or leave it. I don't need Melissa on
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the show, but I think i'd hang out with I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: think because of Louis, I would feel more comfortable hang
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: out with Melissa than I would Teresa because I.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Don't Yeah, we can't be around Louis. Yeah right, we can't.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Louie is dragging us down.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Louis thing. But does anybody
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: else have anything to say about the actual reunion? And
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: this goes to the darlings and the comments and online
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: with us like, I mean, oh yeah, what.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Are they saying?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Oh? Ccik's success as Louie has destroyed so many of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Teresa's relationships, relationship with her brother, Margaret, Dina Manzo, her
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Nama Stay podcast co host, and the list goes on.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Kelly says, if Tree is back, I won't watch. She
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: keeps getting rewarded for her terrible behavior, and Louis just
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: keeps get getting, keeps the craziness going. He killed the show.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Jen says, I like Melissa and her family because it's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: fun and doesn't feel as toxic as the Louis as
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Louis and his bs and uh, let's see what.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Else I enjoy watching Melissa receive information, any information. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: just authentic, yes, And I I don't find her terribly
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: inauthentic personally, But you know, I was thinking about that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: last night. I'm like, I think she had to say
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: a few things to Teresa at the end, just because
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: it is the end, and I feel like I would
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: feel compelled to do the same thing as well, just
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: to kind of get my last licks in, whether they
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: land or not. I think she just tried to get
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: a few little last licks in. But and I think
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: she felt like, this is the end. The audience is
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: going to want to hear that from me. I think
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: she was in the I had a friend who who
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: called it apo V audience point of view, and I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: think she was like in APOV for that. But like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: when when something's happened and someone's telling her about it.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Love that love Melissa and that I find her to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: be sort of that everyman character similar to Fessler, that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: you know is easy on the eyes.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: And and I like when she asking Dolores like why
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: am I missing something? Like what happened? That I liked
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: that moment she was genuinely confused.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I think once Teresa is just making her pay the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: price for getting on the show forever because she's always
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: so that doubt in our minds about Melissa. But if
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you really take a step back, I don't know. I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: think Melissa would not be on the show this song,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: that's for sure, No God knows.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Alsa never admitted to that, and I really
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: feel like she should have because and and that's why
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm always gonna sway towards Teresa. How things began
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: in the beginning, but then as they got out of control,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: like just move on, you know, it is what it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: is now. But I resent Melissa holding on so tightly
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: to denying the narrative which is the truth, which is
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: that she was trying to get on the show. She
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: did not tell Teresa she was going to be on
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: the show. They completely did it behind her back, which
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: I think is very odd. And so what if she
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: wanted well allegedly, but this is this is my truth.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't I believe Teresa over this rather
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: than Melissa. I'm sure there are a lot more details
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: that happened, But so are.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: We saying that. We're saying, yes, producers approached her obviously, right, Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I think it is the end of broach her at
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: the end, you know, I think they the end of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: like her trying to reach out in different ways to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: get to producers or what have you. I think she
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: was angling to get on the show.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think if she said to Teresa, I watched
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: the show, I want to be on it and I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: wanted to have a piece of that, and I should
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: have just come to you instead of even if the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: conversations were organic, they came to her and said, you
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: know that, maybe she was sitting on her ass and
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: they came to her and said, would you like to
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: do the show? We're always looking for connections. It makes
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent sense to have you on. She should
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: have said, if she ever said, I should have brought
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: it up to you. Yes, I wanted it, and I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: even if you said no, I was going to do
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: it either way. But I should have at least given
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: you the heads up. That's the truth.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. And I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: and it would be so easy to say that, especially
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: now since how much time has gone by and she's
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: made her way in the housewives world. She's here to stay.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: People love her, meaning Melissa. Most people don't have a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: problem with her and if she could be authentic and say, look,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be on the show, like I really
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: wanted it, and I may have gone about it the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: wrong way because I was young and I you know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: this is exciting, but the fact that she was hired
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: and regardless of whether producers told her not to tell
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Teresa that she was going to be on the show,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: and that they just showed up at the christening, that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: is so dirty in my opinion, Like now you're going
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: to just you know, show up and you're miked and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: you're on the show, and you're see I'm on the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: show too, and I'm showing up at your christening. And
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: that's why they got so mad at her at the christening,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: because Joe was mad that Teresa wouldn't let Melissa be
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: on the show. And you know, it's just it all
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: started off so badly, and we watched it for so long,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: but to see these these two women and Joe Gorga
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: just be so far down the rabbit hole of hatred
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and their family after going through what they went through,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: is just so sad, Like yea, you know, the egos involved,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: and now we have Louis, which is exploding everything even
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: more so to the point where there's just no coming
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: back from that. So the Louis thing now, I don't
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: know if we'll we don't have time to talk about
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: like everything right now, but I want to say that,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned, we've been listening Emily's probably finished. Emily
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: finished the Bravo Docket episode of all of the the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Louis past x's and all that stuff. I'm like, on
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: episode two, halfway through, Deanna, where are you at with these?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: I think it was the three episodes, right.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I think so, Yes, it's three episodes, but I think
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: there's going to be another one as well.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm caught up. I may have a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: tiny bit left on episode two. I'll go check, but
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I'm fairly caught up.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: So I have a quick question for you guys. And
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I know this is gonna sound so I feel very
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: deft when I say this, But like when Margaret and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Jackie are talking about talking with the ex, is that
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Paula or is that Vanessa Vanessa Vanessa?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I believe Paula because Paula predates Vanessa. Yeah, I think
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: like Vanessa comes in and this all starts with the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: lawsuits during the pandemic. Okay, the dates that Jackie and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Margaret are giving are twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. I just I thought so, and then
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I just really got confused in my head because and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I want to mention that if you guys haven't listened
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: to this, it's it's a real eye opener. And Deanna
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: you had mentioned something about this your biggest aha moment
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: of listening, and I completely agree is that the timeline
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: to which Louis went from Gal to Gal is crazy.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: So the timeline would basically be, there was a Paula
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: that he was engaged to and with or like in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: this relationship with for about five years seven years, I'm
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: not sure, but a long span of time. Then they
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: broke up, and then he quickly got together with Vanessa.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: They were together for a few years and they ended
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: up breaking up in like during COVID in twenty twenty,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: maybe towards the end of twenty twenty or something like that.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Well, the law twenty one started that the lawsuit came
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: in because Louis starts it by apologizing that he's doing
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: this during the pandemic. That's how his motion like, that's
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: how his court document opens up. So I think they
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: actually broke up, maybe like at the very beginning or
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: some time with COVID.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they broke up in twenty twenty and they're
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: going through these lawsuits in twenty twenty one, and he
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: gets with Teresa less than a year, maybe within six
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: months of this breakup, perhaps.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Like it seems like within six months.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we kin no because I guess we could put
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: it together because does doesn't he see her at the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: isn't the story that they met at the beach?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: They met at the shore? Yeah, and so that was
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the summer. Yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And to be in something so crazy where there's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: this level of what sounds like this passionate relationship between
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: him and Vanessa, that Annick passion. We're all over the place.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: We're up, we're down, We're throwing engagement rings, Princess cutter.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: We're putting on his dead father's pajama.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: We're paying we're paying her money two hundred and fifty
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars as part of the engagement deal.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're moving a couple hundred thousand dollars back and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: forth into and out of account every week.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Essentially we're locking her out of their home were it's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: it's an insane it's.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Too much to come down from even and you're in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: the courts and you're fighting, and it's like and then
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: you I believe it from my vagina up. I believe
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: Louis planted his body in Teresa's eye line absolutely, Like
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: that was not by accident. It was completely staged. And
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: that's the part that's really hard. And I do feel
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: like his sisters were involved with it. They're like, your
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: ticket's over here, buddy, Yeah.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's because rumors to this too, Like there's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: rumors the effect that that he like called his shot,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: like he's like, I'm going to do X y Z. Yeah,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Like they're at the shore and he's like tells everybody
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: exactly what the plan is.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he like.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Great guy, great guy.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Transcend. By the way, I want to mention that the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Warrior video, he is saying that not to Vanessa but
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: to Paula. Okay, that was very that was information from
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: the Bravo docket. So when this video came up, that's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: why I asked you guys, which y, Jackie and Margaret
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: we're talking to, because the Warrior video was part of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: this and the Warrior video was not for Vanessa.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Paula. Yeah, it was said to Paula, I get the vibe.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Paula sent that to, like, I get the vibe. Everybody's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: talking and everybody's sharing that video around, like okay, I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I think that that video has made it through whatever
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: mutual friends Louis and Paula had, like who knows who
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: has that video now?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the idea that it has to go from
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: a housewife to the press. It's like anyone could have
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: gotten that video on this exactly. It's exactly held by
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: a housewife to make it public.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: But it is funny how housewives all of a sudden
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: claim they know nothing about technology or even what an
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: actual video is, you know, like they just claim so quickly,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Like Jackie's like, what would I even do with a video?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: It should hit a.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Sent Yeah, and her argument that she's like, I didn't
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: send it. I didn't even bring it up on camera.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's right, you know you didn't bring
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: it up on camera because you were maneuvering behind the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: scenes kind of scenes.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: But I think everybody whoever had that video. The second
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Louis began comes somebody on Housewives, Yes, gotta get it. It
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: uploads send. Yeah, it's not about yeah, And Teresa just
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: needs to hate Margaret because Margaret is dangerous in terms
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: of exposing Louie.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, she's It's definitely a way for Teresa
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: to not look that hard at all of these issues
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: with Louie and these other women and what's gone on,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: and to just focus on Margaret being the problem and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: being the reason. It's just so much easier.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: For her, it truly is. And also to find out,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I maybe this was last week, but didn't
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Teresa say something along the lines of this time in
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: her life with this whole ex lawsuit, Louis X's lawsuit
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff and that Margaret brought up and
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: all was has been more stressful to her than going
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: to prison.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Right, Like, that's such a slap in the face to her. Girls.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like to have said that,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gonna believe your family. I don't know.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: And maybe in her own mind, maybe obviously she meant
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: that she was at peace with going to prison. She
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: knew what she had to do in her head. She
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: put her head down and she went, whereas this was
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: just like when is this going to end? There's no
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: end in sight, and people keep dredging up stuff and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: this is ruining my love bubble, you know, I mean,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: but man, that is a crazy statement to make.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: I do think that Teresa. You can kind of see
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: it in her face, like when Louise said those crazy
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: things about Margaret's son and when she said, I'm just
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: gonna let it happen. I'm not going in with a plan,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: and he's feeding her what to say. I think that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, in her body, she's
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: someone who's been sent to prison because a man was
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: her and you know, right legal, and I think she
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: knows something's really really off here. But so that that
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: is what's happening, is she doesn't want to be made
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: a fool of. She doesn't want this to be true
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: about him. He's he is giving her everything to keep
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: her like locked in and yes, yeah, we're good and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: our families are good.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Remember the beginning of the season where she he calls
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: her and she has to be like speak her phone
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: like because he's about to go into something about one
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: of the girls, like she If you remember, like jo
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Jude said some shit, but it was not It wasn't
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: about like the other guy, Like she didn't have to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: like manage him right in that way.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: No, God, no, you're so right. It is wild to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: see her having to actually try to control someone else's mouth,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: like rein it in takes a lot, like, because all
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Theresa wants and all she's wanted this whole time on
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: this show and in her life is loyalty. That's it.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: And Louis is just die hard loyal to Teresa, which
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: is why she's allowing all this abusive stuff because exactly,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: and the love bombing, yes, yeah, which is why she'll
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: defend him and say these insane things like he was
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: just blowing off steam, you know when he said those
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: things about how he wants Margaret's son to suffer.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Blowing off steam.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: In the room.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: But but you know, getting back to the Bravo docket
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: and they are reading the court documents, I mean everything
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: from these cases between from the lawsuits between Louise filing
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: against Vanessa and Vanessa's lawsuit back onto Louis and her response,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: her response and counter lawsuit against him. Right, she it
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: is a lawsuit against him, right, isn't it a countersuit.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Well anyway, yeah, yeah, we'll figure it outings. So she, uh,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: there's a letter that she put together that she wrote
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: and she's a therapist for Louis, allegedly wrote, allegedly wrote.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know what you're saying. She was allegedly a therapist.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we don't even have that.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: She allegedly wrote this letter in first person for Louis, saying,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: you know that this would be given to a therapist
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: to prove that he's bipolar so that he can get
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: on medication. But oh lithium. Yeah, so everything. And what's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: why wild about that letter is that it's completely from
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: her perspective about the things that he did. But what
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: I want to say is that I believe everything in
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: that letter that he did and is capable of, and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: I also believe Louis with all the things that she
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: did to him. I literally believe both of them from
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: beginning to end about their horrific relationship and the things
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: that went on. And that's my takeaway.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the docket Galop Bravo Dockett thinks that she wrote
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: that letter, and I disagree. I think Louis in a
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: manic phase in a like self sabotage, beating himself up
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: in front of her, so she is like, it's okay,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: it's okay. I think they both wrote that letter because
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: it sounds so much like.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, he could have been a part of it. Yeah,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: and now his voice it's not fully his voice.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: It isn't. I think they both had a hand and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: out like it's so much like Madia, and I think
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: that they both had a hand. And I know I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: keep saying that word, but I just haven't seen the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: the bipolar of the drop in Madia. I mean to me,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's the grandiose of like I don't.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Know because we're not there for it, you know, right right,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: I only see that yeah, yeah, but that letter to me,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: And I was surprised that the docket uh gals didn't
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: say like, because I could see Louis doing something that
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: crazy where he wrote a lot of it and.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Then she like maybe did some punch up and added
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: some shit, and then by the end of it it's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: like a thirty page email that you would never send,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: and they sent it.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: You know, guys, by the way, who writes a letter
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: to get that's the other things? Yeah, I mean it's
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: just not a thing that people didn't know.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: It was a letter to write to introduce himself ahead
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: of going to therapy.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Right, explaining all these things. So that and it's like
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: his confessions about all the things that he's done and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: where he's been and how he's hurt people and and so.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: But later on I thought it was really interesting because
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: I had the same exact take that Sessi had on
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: the podcast, which was that, yeah, when she was explaining
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: her side, because Louis presented that letter, and that was
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: in Louie's case, right all right, So when she on
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: her side, she was presenting this whole thing, and she
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: was like, and I did not write this for him,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: which was in a way by saying like if you
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: read between the lines, which is what Seci said, it's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: like she's saying, I did help write the other letter,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: but this one I did not write. I didn't have
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: a hand in that. So it was almost like an
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: admittance or confession that she did have something to do
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: But but you know how Louis does that thing. And
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I've known people that do this that just like go
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: oh when they they're like, I'm an idiot, I'm so
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: dumb whatever you think, Like, tell me, no, I Brobb,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: you're the therapy. You say it all like yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: like leaning into that so that you then like start
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: to feel bad for them and like, oh he really
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: is trying to change. Yeah, Like I feel like that
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: was a lot of that letter. M h yeah whatever.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: I just felt the whole trying to get him on
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: lithium felt so abusive.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, as you.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: Know he as a therapist, as someone in the medical field,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know if a therapist falls under
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: that category, but just it just felt like she was
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: taking her title and abusing it.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's why this is such a crazy situation because
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: you look at everything that the Bravo tacket is laying
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: out from these court documents, and it just proves the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: insanity on both sides allegedly.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: But the one thing that saves Vanessa for me and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: probably everyone is that she had a flat rotnie under
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: her bed.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Oh ye God, that killed me. So what we're talking
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: about is that on Vanessa's side, she made a very
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: complete list of all the things that she wanted back
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: from Louis, and instead of starting with like as the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Angela and SESSI said, you know, luxury handbags, like a
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: list of the handbags instead of starting with that and
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: like the heavy hitting, big price tag things or things
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: like my mother's artwork, you know, maybe sentimental things. The
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: list literally includes like a box of screws, a box
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: of screws, Lockett you know, a Lockett uh packet. And
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: then she goes on to say things like the a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: flat Ronnie and they are sentimental. Yes, fine, but that
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: is please explain, Yes, darling, if.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: You listen to Howard Stern show, you'll know that they
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: made life size portraits of one of the guys on
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: the show. It's Howard's security former security bid. He's still
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: on the show, Ronnie Mund And they made them flat,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: like you would pass around flat Stanley's he's a shorter
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: fellow and so that was the joke. But like like.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: They were sort of exclusive. It was hard to keep
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: a flat Ronnie. Wow.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: You'll see him around though, Like the chicks like Natalie
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Mains always has her flat Ronnie. Stay see them like
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: in movies and stuff like like Stern fans that are
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: like like I think, like like Bradley Cooper has put
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: like they're like little Easter eggs so that she has one,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how did she get a flat n.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: I know, my ears. I was listening to the list.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, strange, random, granular, little like what are
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: we asking for here? And then I was like flat Ronnie.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Megan l says I date Louis for a
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: flat ronie.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: That is flat. There you go.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: But the list it went on to like then emmett
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Otter's jug band, Christmas Stevd.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: That was killed me.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Like the list is giving, so.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: I mean if the list also gave like I I
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: don't think I ever have had that much stuff over
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: at any body that I was with's home, you know,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: so it did. I did think like, okay, these guys
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: were really in it together.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah they were engaged. I mean they were. And the
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: other thing is too, the amount of money that Louie
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: has was shocking to yes understand from these episodes, and
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: like I just yeah, I don't get it. But we've
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: we've obviously gone a long time, you know, we need
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: to wrap this up. So last thoughts, Emily, last thoughts.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Didn't even mention Rachel Food is pregnant. Oh yeah, oh
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: my god, that's fine. My last thoughts, just not.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: I thank you very much for that. Didn't even write
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: it in my notes. Oops, I have been.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: Down as the last thing.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: But yeah, congratulations, thank you for that, Young Deanna. Last thoughts.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: My last word of the day is church yutery.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: And on a log.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah the way these girls wrestle with that pronunciation.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: A churchery liketrar.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: It's rough, It's really rough, and it's happened several times,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: and each time I'm like, God, who's gonna win, you know,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: the housewife or the board, never gonna know?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. I'm glad you said that. All right, Well,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: listen everybody, thank you so much for joining our live
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: and join us back here tomorrow for the below deck
• 1:29:35
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• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: back slash Drama Darling. Thank you, Emily Dreesis and Deanna
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Chang bye for now. Thanks Darling.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Welcome away, Welcome away, so good