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Keyforge Identical Twin Decks Found in the Wild · Archons Corner

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Hi, this is Michael Hurley from Ghost Galaxy and you're listening to our CON's
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corner. All right, what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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the only, the wh okay? I he joined here by Well,
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we don't have the normal. I don't know what's going on with Z.
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Anybody heard from him? Is he alive? It was alive yesterday, it
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was alive some discords earlier. We're going on up. Yeah, we're going
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on. Z watched, he's on. He's on, you know, summer
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break now. So you don't know what top it is, Well, what
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it is is you played it's coming and you only got the top half for
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the time. I only got the top half, is Z? Yeah?
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I'm oh? Is that the good half? I don't know. I'm not
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sure, but either way we got well, I want to say, buckets.
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We do have a lot to go over this week, but it's not
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it's not all good. So we're we're gonna go through the good, the
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bad, and the ugly and then the in between stuff. So we're gonna
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start off. ABR is officially closed out for season nine. Drafts Corps tell
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us about ABR. Yeah, so it is, uh, it is officially
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done now and um. Uh so I think last time we talked about hey,
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we thought we know, we knew who was gonna win, and uh,
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I think I think that was correct. So we ended up our team
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what was Me? We ended up in third place overall. Um, and
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so that was overall pretty pretty good run. The Uh I'm looking at the
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wrong sheet here. I'm trying to get to the official I just want to
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say, see, people, we do protect things correctly. Sometimes. Yeah,
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it would a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again, I
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suppose, but this is you could go ahead and find it based on numbers.
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I mean, numbers are something we don't need to go into all that.
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We were just we were correct, yea, So here we go.
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Here's here's it. Here it is okay. So first place, as we
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as we thought, was Inspector Gadgets. So that's J. T. Russell's
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team, So congratulations there and then edging us out by just one point in
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second place with a semi automatic night a Pulse, and then what was Me?
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That's my team, Doctor Sheep's team, third place, fourth place in
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the playoffs, Disruptive dinos Um, and then a whole bunch of other teams
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ewalk, what what place? We're your team? We were not in the
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top four, not in the top four. About the top six, I
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don't know. I only see this top four coming from Flaming Hobo. So
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that's where I'm gonna remember this season number nine. All right, all right,
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a right, fair enough, fair enough. But it was a lot
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of fun. We had an overall we had a really good team, and
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there was lots of good, good chatter and uh, you know, people
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test in decks and stuff, so that's what makes it fun. So definitely
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recommend folks check out ABR season ten when it comes around, or ABR what
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they're calling season nine point seven five, which is coming sooner. M hmm,
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yeah, I talk about that. I'll talk about that three. Come
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on, Harry Potter fans, we're gonna go on all right, all right,
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sorry sorry, yeah I said point seven five. Sorry, but yeah,
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so because Whoe is out on TCO now, we're gonna do a little
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woe interlude league, a short league. Um so it's gonna be a fewer
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number of of weeks, but it's all woe only woe, woe all the
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time. Yeah, whoa on, whoa action. Yeah, giggety giggity.
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Um, so right now looks like tentatively our kind alliance sealed adaptive. Oh,
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then unchained and then maybe TRYAD although there looks unchained up with I guess
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that's just I guess unchained is just a bunch of old cards. So yeah,
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so there is an unchained week in there, and then potentially TRYAD or
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if somebody comes up with a good jank idea this early in the in the
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go, we can only only has three coping generators three or has to have
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at least TAD. I don't you know, but we have right now?
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But we who oh yes, oh gosh, I don't know why I didn't
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absolutely even enough BLOURB decks on the market right now to produce a blurb week
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net deck blor week. Then I'm able to pull BLOORB decks left and right,
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So anyone needs them, just you reach out to how many do you
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have? I don't have any yet? Um I have. The first deck
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I ever opened at KFC was Blurb. The first uh savior of Keyborge deck
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is blurb blurb coming out left and right here that could be the jake just
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straight up debt deck necked up. Whoa there we go. Hmm. By
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the way, if you were all wonderings Z watches over, we found him.
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He's here. M hm. So you said you're gonna be late,
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so I watched the show with my wife. You're going to be said a
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little late. Well, okay, okay, all right. So it's time
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for the good, the bad, the ugly. The parliest event has been
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announced. Plus it's a kit. They say, what's going to be inside
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kit? Or is it just a kit? Wow? The the prerelease things
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that you buy as a player. They have released no prising outside of that.
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It's been a and it's supposed to be like forty two dollars, which
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sounds high. Maybe it was forty two Canadian. I don't know what the
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US price is, but it is three wins of exchange decks and a premium
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train track chain tracker. We don't know if that means the acrylic ones or
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just a really nice card. Well, this is not a nic because I've
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been on a business trip, so I think I missed this detail. This
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is not a like store buys stuff for invent thing. Yes, the store.
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Each store can buy up to twenty four of these three deck boxes.
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So you know, it's a lot like the pre release, a little bit
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like the pre release kits you get at Magic or you get a Magic style
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thing. It's or yeah, you Giomon does it. It's a little pre
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package box that has everything you need to build and play, and it's meant
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to be played as Sealed Alliance. Oh I see that could be Decks Sealed
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Alliance. Oh yeah, you say in the store. Costs is two no
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no, no, no no player. Okay, so if it's gonna be
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if it is, I think forty two is the Canadian costs from JM.
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Though forty two kind of makes sense. I mean that's only yeah, I
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mean you got forty bucks backs if it's actually acrylic train tracker, although it
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kind of sucks that they're making you buy one um. But maybe maybe forty
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two is those you know, those maple dollars and ours there going to be
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thirty five bucks and it's a deal. I don't really know, because you're
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limited. You're very limited, so you think they're reason you want them.
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Do we have a place that we'll be doing this when is okay? Number
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one money by us. We'll be getting them. I will be getting them
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through the Jainsville store, and I sent an email to games Universe and they
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have not replied, So we'll bug somebody on Tuesday who won't know anything and
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does not have the ability to make that decision. Yes, yeah, I
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also posted it in our ac live chat for anyone kind of following along.
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But I thought what was most interesting to me was the release date for this
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KeyForge Wins of Exchange pre release pack July twenty eighth of twenty twenty three,
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so that would be very, very very soon for the stories to be able
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to get it. You know, KeyForge players are sure to enthusiastically welcome KeyForge
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back with the release of KeyForge Wins of Exchange. The return of KeyForge is
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to be marked by a Wins of Exchange pre release event for brick and mortar
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hobby shops, so thank you for supporting those friendly local game stores. The
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event will take place the week prior to the release of the main Wins of
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Exchange sets, so that earmarks it for the beginning of August. All the
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Winds of Exchange pre release pack will be central feature of the event. Each
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pack contains three sealed Wins of Exchange decks and a high quality Chaine tracker to
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be used at the Sealed Alliance pre release cardboard. Yeah, retail retailers are
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free to sell access pre release packs after the event, so I'm I'm kind
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of surprised looking at it that they well, but they don't have Game Jenic
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anymore, so I'm almost certain they're just going to be fancy cardboard chain trackers
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because they're printing them in house. Well, they might be. They might
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have extra I mean, they got extras of a lot, so it might
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just be like throw maybe, but that's because it'd be nice if they had
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like the game deck boxes, and that pre release package that came in would
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have been a Game Genetic style deck box, well the single deck not maybe
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just like they're the plastic ones, not the deck books. Yeah. Maybe
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maybe some sleeves get thrown in there for you to sleeve up and play.
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Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean that might be you put too much
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stuff into it and it makes it way too expensive, and then all of
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a sudden you're paying fifty bucks for three decks and that's no good correct,
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And with the retail at being thirteen already times you're three that that is an
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increased cost. Yeah. So a pre release is generally cheap, relatively cheap,
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and the prizes are not amazing because it's meant to be a playing event,
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not a murder each other event. Yeah, bring out new people,
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right, but we'll want to murder each other. I'm going for blood.
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I don't know. We'll see you guys. Tell me where and when to
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be, and I'll see if my work schedule can accommodate. Well, when
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we find something out, you'll be the last and out. I expect.
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I expect nothing less, all right. I mentioned this to my my lgs.
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Now I'm gonna have to get on this seriously to So July twenty eighth
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is the that's the friday we got to run this, So okay, all
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right, I did. I did see some other people posting that today that
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stores we're getting information from their rep that this is actually like becoming available yesterday.
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When we first saw this, if you went to the game or the
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Pasthma Day website thing, you couldn't find it. Retailers couldn't find key for
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it. But I think it was supposed to go live today. Okay,
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cool and drabs. From what I've heard, it is not restricted to just
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that Friday, but there are basically multiple weeks, multiple days in the week.
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I think we're going to be accessible. So again, none of that
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has been confirmed, but something to be able to look at. And I
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still remember the days where we would go out for other games, whether that
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was Star Wars, Minis or Mac Warrior, and you play from store to
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store on different days. So that would be amazing if we could do well
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release at multiple stores in the area. Basically fifty bucks a night. Great,
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Oh, I mean, if if we can get things going right,
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like multiple days. All right, So the new deck ownership article came out
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leaving some people, I guess less than less than enthused. Is that fair
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to say? So transferring decks is now available on the Master Vault. It'll
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cost you number to transfer your deck that was that was known before. This
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is kind of the updated verse, but it's available now. Now you can
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do it. You couldn't do it before. Well, that is true.
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And I will say that we did have a successful counter for someone who had
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a deck issue, so I thought that was very smooth. I did not
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see this as a negative at all. I thought this was a big positive.
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Look. Uh, well, it depends on how you see it,
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though, right, because we haven't gotten into the into the bad yet quite
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quite yet. Um, maybe we should have saved this one for later and
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we'll come back to this one maybe a little bit. Hey, I got
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to choose where the order is today, so I placed it into good and
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that is why it is. It's not bad. But um, there's a
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little thing that exists now that's twin decks. Well, you're you're you're like
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way ahead, man, I know I'm way ahead, but it is relevant?
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Not really, No, how is it not. There's a couple of
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people in our discord that have said that the deck that they got has already
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been scanned and not by that you totally missed landing the joke. So we're
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throwing this whole show. No, now I want to hear the joke.
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The joke was they've improved Evil Twins identical Twins. Is that an improvement though?
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No, of course not. Oh that must be keet. So,
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since since we are talking about this and jumping all around on our beautiful show
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notes, thank thank you, man, I'm here to close chaos, that's
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the Identical Twins. So yes, we did have a couple different occurrences where
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people scanned in a wodeck it was the first time. Then it was scanned
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and it was saying that it was already taken. Now that's a problem when
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it's coming from a sealed package. Um, it is not open for someone
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else to be able to scan. It wasn't scanned later on, And it
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did happen on the old Sanctimonious discord and on our discords we had at least
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two different occurrences. I do think that there is some feedback that's been provided
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that theory of what could have happened, and that is that if you get
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into a printer again, we don't actually know what happened. All we know
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is that these decks are identical. The name matches, the deck matches,
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the cards printed for the even name. Yes they are. And so this
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is a problem when we talk about it being a unique game, and so
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Gig gets a little bit of a black eye for that, and that's something
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to kind of look at. But the hypothesis right now is that basically they
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printed as they were going through the printer batch, there was an error.
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They chose to go back and reprint from that same set of Now that's that's
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my hypothesis. We have no idea what happened, But but it would make
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it would make logical sense. Yes, we know nothing, but it is
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a hypothesis. We know all the things. They just don't want us to
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think. We know, we know, we figured out. I mean like,
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for all we know is like the night shift crew press punt print on
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a batch, packed it up. The morning shifts printed the same damn batch,
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packed it up. We don't know anything. Like what I just said
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is literally worst case, but that could beat a scenario. I mean night
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they just poked Jeremy and wake him back up, would be like you got
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to keep you can't sleep, You've been working eighteen hours. Have you seen
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Jeremy's car in our discord? I mean it is not Jeremy printing shit,
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how do you know? Uh, Jeremy, he's like one fifth of g
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he's too busy to work, and one quarter probably has like eight people and
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one eighth of strange stars regards there was printing. So if you have issues,
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I will say that my my game found order did have an issue in
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one of my name decks and my mats. I reached out, Jeremy did
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respond, had good correspondence with me right away, and I think he's been
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very responsive at trying to touch why he's not printing. He's answering all those
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correct. But with that, if he's got a full time job, yeah,
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he's got a full time job. But if you have an issue,
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please reach out, not through discord, but actually use the the proper channel,
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which I know it is through. It is through key for proper channel
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is the proper channel called woe forge. His name is at Darby twice No,
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no, but again this is where if you choose not to go ahead
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and respond in the right way there on keyforging dot com. On the more
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side, I will lead you through it. On the bottom it says contact
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us. When you go ahead and choose the contact, I should just say
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contact Jeremy. But you will put in your first name, last name,
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your email, what your message is about, and please then actually write your
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message. But he was very responsive to that and I appreciate it. Yes,
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now I have to decide you should not be pinging somebody in a public
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server for an official response to a customer service. Yes, yes, please
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please use the proper channels. We're just having fun here. This is just
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five people b us and really yeah, this says but it does for those
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of you, um obviously for the digital rights claims and claims on deck.
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Some decks did get unfortunately they released it and somebody went skans scan scan scan
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on decks of KeyForge. That you now have the process you to go through
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for reclaiming ownership of your deck. Yeah, but I've only heard of one
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person who actually reached out through the new process and they had it immediately returned
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to them. I think again, our community is so good that I'd be
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shocked if individuals are going to continue to press this. But well, I'd
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be shocked if people continue to put their QR codes online. Well, but
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that was the process during the pandemic. I mean, there was so much
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that was shared at that point, it wasn't a problem to list your QR
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code. Now we understand that it's a different time and so don't. Yes,
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don't share your QR code. The QR code for your own player ID
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is different from when we were with FG. But again, don't be going
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ahead and showing your player ID code. Don't post it online because it is
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too easy to go ahead and scan in the deck claim ownership, or to
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go ahead and have access to your code. I mean I think there's like
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worse potential issues now right, Like we're all talking about decks and stuff,
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Like what are they gonna do when someone's actual account gets sold? Like if
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someone steals my account right now, they get I'm not even gonna list all
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the decks they get. They get a lot of money worth of decks.
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Hold on one second, m well, all the QR quotes have been changed.
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That that was one thing local car had brought up in the server,
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that your quote. I'm talking about that, Like it's like not that hard
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if someone really wants to crack someone's like code, right well, having your
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player QR code that doesn't give you access to your account, does it?
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No? No, I'm talking about your master Vault log in right now.
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Like if somebody logged in as my master Vault, somehow they change the password,
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like they actually steal my Masterball account, Like what happens then, Like
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I just don't have those decks even though I physically have them. They go
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make a bunch of copies. Well, then now you wind up making a
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new account and going through the process of verifying that you physically Okay, Well,
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I mean yeah, I mean what would happen, right? It would
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be real terrible. Yeah, like, I think there will potentially be bigger
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issue if that thing happens. So I don't hoping it doesn't happen. Are
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you sharing your passwords with a lot of people? Oh no, but I
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mean like some people have really bad passwords. Woke lowercase a lowercase C for
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all. Let's trive password on Wookie's account. Let's trip down. I mean,
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like this stuff happens in the real world. My password is real good,
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my passwords real good. Am I not supposed to write password as my
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password? No typical goodness guise, But if it's okay, if you use
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dollar signs instead of ses, then it's fine. Nobody ever guess that never
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Yeah at dollar dollar Listen, this is how we lost the algorithm in the
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first place before. Okay, so probably is probably is all right, onto
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some more good news. TCO is live with woe, all right, dude,
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kind of you You gotta look one. We are super excited about that,
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but you didn't even like talk about this article. I'll give the quick
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synopsis. We can kind of move on transfer. But deck transfer they actually
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have a process for going ahead and claiming. They're specific instructions listed They talk
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about the amber that you talked about for changing. Fine, but they give
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instructions for the person who is transferring to the user and then from the receiving
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users. So I think that was very clear. It was easy to lay
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out. They do have kind of what the steps are. So after deck
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has been asked to transfer, if you say okay, it's not mine or
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I've sold, you can actually the deck recipient may click on the link in
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the email to navigate to the deck transfer page. Here, the deck recipient
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will see a list of pending deck transfers, both ingoing and outgoing. For
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each deck transfer, the recipient is brought out with two options to accept transfer
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or denied transfer. So again they're leaving it really simple. The picture right
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next to it was also clear, and then it says after accepting a transfer,
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the recipient may now navigate to see the deck in their my decks list
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a few minutes or a browser refresh. That's awesome. They talk about what
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happens if you have a denied transfer. Transfer is denied by the recipient,
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then no transfer will take place in the transferring user will be credited back one
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amber. But afterwards they talk about the deck ownership dispute, which we did
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have some issues with when it was previously announced, and I think that they
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did a very nice job at trying to lay out what's happening. They are
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using a third party company here, so there's actual Yeah, that's why I
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think they're just using a third party company to collect the information, because it
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says a GG person does the actual review. Yeah, and that is the
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submission portion of our deck. Digital deck claims are handled by our technology partner,
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play Style Alejandro. What was it so that that was listed as Tier
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two digital deck claim review? But again, really the new part of this
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article is instead of the only being like, hey, that's my deck and
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I'm going, oh, yeah it is, they added the digital portion where
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take a bunch of pictures of your deck next to a unique QR code to
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prove that you actually have the deck, six different pictures and the SENSI aman
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yeah, and then with specific cards from the set. It's it's something,
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it's something. And then but it also says like then gig does it and
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whatever they say is the law it is it is uh finding or whatever their
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terminology is there, but it's the decision of the review is final. Um.
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I think I hear that. I think with the six pitchers um the
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front of the deck list, back of the deck list card, back of
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any other card in the deck, front of the first card listed for the
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first house, first card for the second house, and first card for the
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third house, like a but they have it laid out in a nice format
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that it's clear and easy to read. The only thing that I would lean
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against for anyone if you have to go through the dispute. We know it's
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the ten amber shards, a little bit of a bummer there, which is
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nonrefundable. But it talked about check each photo, ensure that it's good quality
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and clearly shows the card details. In particular, be sure that the focus
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is correct and they spend time there because claims with low quality or unreadable photos
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will result in an automatic denial. And that was probably like I get it.
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If it's not readable, fine, then it becomes a problem. There's
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six photos, so I can't imagine that one individual photos all of a sudden
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going to throw it out. But that's what they're basically looking at. So
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make sure that you have clean photos, take them, put them in their
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space. And I think that this process will help so that you don't have
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to send in a physical deck because that's Tier three is twenty five dollars plush
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shipping to send in your physical deck, which they had talked about earlier.
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I think I'm gonna use all my shards to claim pink fraud, but not
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actually claim it. It's just all gonna be fuzzy pictures of meat. Well,
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then I think it's just going to be you losing Amber shards. So
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great job on that one. I'm cool at that. That's fine. They're
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worth us to me. So the ac uh uh sim Suit edition calendar that
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pure pictures from that that in the soft light filter. Yep, ye,
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it'll just be it'll just I'll be pictures of me. So Jeremy just has
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to look at me for like the next board fastest denied ever. Maybe maybe
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we don't know or will it? Can we now go through that. TCO
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as live with woe. Yes, and this is awesome news. So thank
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you, thank you, thank you TCO. I don't know if you guys
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have seen, but TCO has been rocking. There are games left and right.
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Even at this moment we dropped a little bit. There's only twenty three
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games right now that are happening. That is, that's amazing. But I
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don't know what, what do you guys think? TCO live with woe very
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exciting. Sheep's still playing. Sheep's still playing a lot of fraud. We
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went live, all right. If Grump is over here, can say that's
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that's okay. You know, it's got to be phenomenal. Yeah, game
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to low it's what. I lost two games to the same to the same
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deck, which is one game. Oh no, I know. And then
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I went and played fraud against another deck that somebody thought was one of their
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best picks, and I had no problem there. And then those two decks
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played, and that deck that couldn't beat fraud trounced the deck that did beat
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fraud. So the uh, the paper rock Scissors is still in effect.
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M so there's still a chance Dan will brick it and lose. It is
28:56
guaranteed gut so so I have noticing. I'm just scrolling. So of all
29:03
these games, there's a bunch of casual, bunch of competitive, bunch of
29:10
sealed, bunch of ar con, bunch of open games, bunch of locked.
29:15
I don't see any Alliance games. There's one sitting there for five minutes
29:21
and nobody's joined them. Oh, I'm just gonna be bouncing over here.
29:25
Hold on one second, go join them with Froude. I'm supposed to be
29:30
paying attention to Yes, you guys, you don't pay attention when you're here.
29:36
We all know better. But you are able to play your Wodex on
29:41
TCO now, So that that's exciting. That's I mean, obviously it's got
29:45
a lot of buzz. Still a lot of people I know don't like um
29:49
tabletop simulator. It's fine, it's not on it's not on two CEO.
29:55
So any you guys sheep, any memorable moments stand out for your first playthroughs
30:03
with Woe on TCO. Buggy, Buggy, I mean, that's a lot
30:11
of bugs. Yesterday was was we So we played Sunday night several Yeah,
30:19
we played Sunday night. Now we played Wednesday night with local Car and a
30:25
few of us were playing it and there were quite a few bugs. But
30:27
they pushed a lot of patches this morning and it fixed. But there is
30:33
still some bugginess with cars that become token eyes and on token eyes like not
30:37
losing effects. And you can, at least as of yesterday, you could
30:41
tell what your opponents tokens were. That'll be changed. I mean, they'll
30:47
fix it. So go go give them. Go give a dollar to your
30:52
tco Patreon so they can or five and then you can have a colored name.
30:56
Yeah, or five, or you can take that one dollar and also
31:02
give us a dollar. Z What do they get for their dollar? Well,
31:07
right now they get access to the Z score sheet, so you can
31:11
get your Z scores in um. There's no U d ok. You can
31:18
look up your deck in d okay, but you obviously can't see a stass
31:21
yet. Um. So you'll be able to see a Z score for your
31:23
thing. You do have to manually enter it, but we have things in
31:26
the work. Um at some point that saying dollar will give you access to
31:30
a site where you can have your Z scores shown. Um. So yeah,
31:36
we've been working on that. I have a meeting with our our dev
31:40
person on Saturday to see what the Zeta testing will look like for that.
31:48
That's right? Is that like beta testing? But but yeah, that's exactly
31:53
what that is. I like it. I like it. Um So yeah,
31:59
so we'll be starting to zay to test our z score site system and
32:02
then once it's ready, it will be pushed to at first our patreons um.
32:08
So if you want to be in that first wave or the digitized version
32:13
of the z score that you do not have to manually enter um, go
32:15
ahead and sign up for that dollar. You'll go ahead and get the Google
32:19
sheet now that you can get those and then by that first vault window to
32:25
have a more polished but well not polished a site version of them. It
32:31
is phenomenal. It's well well worth it. Even just the standard sheet that
32:37
you're using is really helpful. Right now a lot of people are trying to
32:39
be able to figure out what decks they're liking. I am seeing quite arrange,
32:44
and I know early with the release of a set you will see a
32:46
smattering of decks, but casual decks are being played, just healed decks are
32:52
being opened and tried outs, and it's really great to see everyone enjoying KeyForge
32:57
in that experience of just cracking a deck and in it. YEP, I
33:06
was gonna ask, did you have any specific memorable plays so far with will
33:10
Yeah. I ran through some of the decks that I had been playing that
33:15
I knew were well and they did pretty pretty decently. I was more impressible
33:20
for the deck that I ran into by one of the ac regulars. Um
33:25
U it had I think um it had three of the cards in equedon that
33:35
flips the creature over to you, and a whole bunch of capture. Had
33:38
three trading utunities and then three exchange programs. I think, um that was
33:44
an aggressive amount of amber swing and UM it trounts the deck. But I've
33:49
been doing quite well and well with UM so it's fun to see that.
33:52
And then I tried out a bunch of random berserker decks I just scrubbed off
33:55
of off of Master Wall. Trade one require you to have a creature for
34:02
them to make the trade. It doesn't no, No, it will flip
34:07
either way, so they can just give you a creature and not take something
34:13
if you don't have if like they don't have one. No, if you
34:15
don't have a creature when they go to do the swap creatures, well then
34:20
you definitely can't use the swap creature thing exchange program. Right, that's sky
34:23
we're talking about. Yeah, um, I don't think both of them have
34:31
to have it, but you really wouldn't want to do that if you don't
34:36
have a creature, choose a friendly frank creature and an enemy flank creature.
34:40
If you do so, they both have I'm just I was just wondering because
34:45
so I've played at least a dozen games a fraud versus whatever woe shows up
34:52
in competitive TCL, and I have almost completely gone to out playing creatures.
35:01
I'll just get discarded because there's so much double brick nasty stuff getting played right
35:07
now, and just change program would do that too, yet punishes you for
35:15
having creatures that woe has a lot of great you don't do it. Yeah,
35:20
yeah, So what you're telling me is I should go back to all
35:23
my CODA decks because Coda don't care about creatures. Wow, Coda doesn't care
35:30
about creatures, but always having to discard them and choke through them multiple times
35:35
can be really bad too. Well, I also have a lot of decks
35:38
that don't got them, so moving forward day, I was really trying to
35:46
find the deck. So I've been playing a lot of woe. Um,
35:51
that's the benefits of being able to have off. I'm actually a little bit
35:53
of head so do a little bit of work around the house outside, and
35:58
I've been enjoying Woe I've had some great decks. I'm curious to see.
36:05
The only issue that I actually had was a couple of days ago I had
36:08
my Pyro which just like it showed the outline of the card but didn't actually
36:13
light up. And today I didn't have any issue yesterday and have any issue
36:15
with it. But I played a random game where I just opened one of
36:21
my seal woe and I ended up facing jt Rossoll so you know known from
36:28
ABR from Bottom of the Beaker if you haven't heard of that podcast. But
36:31
it's just one of those games where it was a sealed deck for me.
36:36
I actually played it completely blind, not even looking. I don't know I
36:39
would have looked. I wish I would have looked at a time. But
36:42
I think that there's just a lot of fun. No, I think there's
36:44
a lot of fun for being able to explore. But this deck that JC
36:49
Russell was throwing out was really unique. It had nine different artifacts, so
36:55
double sand Hopper and then it had double heavy subsidies and Celestial of Go.
37:05
Yeah, and so what's okay? Yes, so what was actually happening here?
37:12
Now? The game went on quite a while because um I had a
37:15
bit of c in the random deck that I opened. I actually ended up
37:19
with an anomaly of the red baron that was there. And that is the
37:22
reason why I was so disappointed that I did not look at it ahead of
37:24
time, because I would have flipped my red key. But um, double
37:29
heavy heavy subsidies. What was crazy is that you could go ahead and um
37:36
he was basically going ahead and looking he did have cleric has his tokens,
37:38
so a little bit of steel. Um, But the main component to get
37:43
rid of your amber was Martyr of the Vault. So Martyr of the Vaults.
37:50
Are you guys familiar with this card? I am not beat fraud twice
37:58
today. Yeah, and it's one of those sanctum cards that is just really
38:02
interesting. Tellos what its walk bot? All right? Walk Bot is going
38:08
ahead and rolling out. No, I was waiting for him to say destroyed.
38:17
If your potent has seven or more amer, they lose all but five.
38:21
Correct. So what ends up happening is that, um, you know,
38:28
double heavy subsidies. Great, you can reap. You get up real
38:30
high, especially meaning eighteen in order to forge for your key. Um it
38:35
does. It does go ahead and require the bigger boards. So whoe and
38:39
mm are going to definitely do much better with the heavy subsidies versus your coda,
38:45
which you know, if you're not playing any four that's a problem.
38:49
Um. But it had multiple ways to recur Martyr of the Vaults and multiple
38:52
ways to be able to kill Martyr of the Vaults UM, especially upon playing,
38:55
which was really neat to see. UM. So it was just it
39:00
was something I hadn't seen before, and to see that interaction where you know,
39:05
double heavy subsidies you're reaping for three UM. I ended up taking the
39:08
game and it just ended up being because my token, which was I want
39:14
to say it was Raider in that random deck, I just ended up being
39:16
able to spam and the sea couldn't keep up. Um. But it was
39:21
still a really neat deck. I could see it as more an adaptive deck.
39:28
UM. So if the ABR when they're talking about I know, I
39:32
know it's not therefore did her. But for an online community, it is
39:39
still very very active and I think they need to move on oh to see
39:44
there you go, But I don't know. I like to see different ways
39:47
to be able to play. It's a deck that maybe wouldn't have seen as
39:52
much light. But picture nine different artifacts there and that it was crazy because
39:57
you could go ahead and basically use your celestial gorm in order to return all
40:07
of your artifacts. So if you were above sex specifically higher preferably. But
40:14
let's say that you're at ten twelve and your opponent is they'd either just forged,
40:20
which is what happened to me. I forged it eighteen, and then
40:22
he went ahead and sent it all back, and you have a real issue
40:28
because now the key costs is at six and it's back in your hand.
40:31
So it was it was just a really neat deck to be able to see
40:35
how you can go ahead and play with heavy subsidies as being something kind of
40:40
to raise the key costs and then with the right card storm send it back.
40:45
Sand Hopper is able to go ahead and return that Martyr. The vaults
40:52
just light everlasting to be able to return it. So there's multiple ways to
40:55
return key cards, specifically if they're creature. So I had time you reminded
41:04
me about something um On a previous turn, I had a bump Sy in
41:08
play and I was playing a deck that had three Sandhoppers. I went into
41:15
the turn and I returned Bumpsy played Bumps played an Equedon car creature returned that
41:22
played bump Cy like I just kept doing it. I literally played Bumpsy three
41:27
times in a row on an Equadon turn with three Sandhoppers and that was really
41:31
really fun. Yeah, that was I had never we didn't talk about like
41:37
that utility of sandhopper, like the the idea of having play effects or potentially
41:43
pipped cards and then just spamming that card over and over it again in Equadon
41:47
house like that's like transporter platform level. Good. Hum, it was really
41:52
cool. There's something there with a sandhopper, especially in multiples. Um it
41:59
was. It was awesome, It was fun, and that was just randomly
42:01
found. I think there will be some decks generated that have some really well
42:06
pipped play effect creatures like that same bumps. He could have had like an
42:09
amber pip on it, right, Like you could start to create some really
42:13
really cool swings with cards like that. Um So, I think we're gonna
42:17
see some decks with that for sure. The kind of cool deck I think
42:21
I saw it today was Mike Funai was playing it and it had transporter platform
42:30
foreign who's the guy who says play take upgrade back from your deskcard and every
42:36
time you play and um upgrade on him, he can reddium. Yeah.
42:42
And his deck had four echo reflectors yeah, which happened. It's a vamber
42:47
on them right Yeah, whoa, that's cool. Yeah that like the rule
42:57
of theory, rule of six plus. So oh it was. It was
43:00
pretty cool to see. I will say two quick common cards from Mars Ironics
43:07
Rebel, which has two power Martian Ironics deploy ready each of Ironic Rebels Mars
43:13
neighbors, and the Systhanics Harvester three powers Santa Harser cannot be used while it
43:20
has a non Mars neighbor after reap gain one like that was an easy turn
43:24
one play that it got, especially when you had multiple Ironics rebels. Um,
43:32
that's a really really really fast amber generation there. Rebel is is stupid
43:37
good. I've seen a deck that had Rebel with Grunt and Felix the Disintegrator
43:44
from my hand, I crushed the amber in a game once. I was
43:49
like, this is stupid. Here we go. I have all these grunts.
43:52
I'm gonna play my disintegrator, play Rebel ready a grunt and disintegrator.
43:57
Bam, you lose eight and I'm going to reap with these other people's um
44:04
and then I think I could boomed to archive it so I could do it
44:07
again later. Nice. Yeah, I was playing against one of those today
44:10
too, so I love kaboom. One of my favorite decks has double kaboom
44:16
and my Mar's Token of Rebel. But I will say kaboom really hurts when
44:22
you face another good Mars deck because you've been dependent on it. I mean,
44:25
there are many games I can just I stopped calling other houses. I
44:30
can't. I'm sitting in Mars going you better take care of me. And
44:35
if you do, okay, there's then the kaboom to blow up the board.
44:38
Or if you don't, I will go ahead and put it all in
44:42
the archives once it gets damaged and I can replay it again if there's high
44:45
play value. UM. But Mars against Mars, it is real, real,
44:50
real, sad. All right, we are ready to go into the
45:00
into the bad. Oh no, she's still not have the decks. Oh
45:08
getting decks. They're going to send them an apology letter and say sorry,
45:13
we were in out. You don't get it. She put your piss off.
45:17
Wait, I was doing this alphabetically or by region or yeah, you're
45:23
gonna have to get a little more specific. Yeah. I uh, well,
45:29
at least we're having fun. That does remind me. Did you get
45:32
an email yet? I get an email? Are you? I'm just asking?
45:37
I don't know. I am here to say. Today's the twenty second
45:45
hire um graph has just been eliminated from the Winns play mask. I'm guessing
45:51
the day when I will get my email. It's gonna be tomorrow. Man,
45:53
I'm telling you, wait, was it just the email or was it
45:58
when you're receiving your decks of the just when I get the email? Oh,
46:01
I thought it was the decks. I'm glad I didn't jump on that
46:05
train. I know that a whole bunch of people have been complaining about,
46:10
especially international individuals where they are. They've been complaining NonStop. Um but you
46:17
know, like but they're they're they're complaining because they made it really clear that
46:22
those weren't coming particularly soon. But people are all silly. They're just silly.
46:28
In our nationals have nothing to complain though, surely they're excited about the
46:30
vaults in their nationals coming up right. Oh yeah, we're hopping right into
46:38
the ugly Huh. We're not even we're not even talking to Sheep. We're
46:42
just like, yeah, Sheep doesn't have a decks. Boo. Who that's
46:45
just I mean, it feels it feels bad here for some of the Americans
46:50
who still don't have their decks because they're closer. But yeah, coming into
46:57
context, you could be literally in any other entry. Correct, you can
47:00
go feel bad there if you really want to feel bad. So the shafty
47:04
thing about not having decks right now is major testing is going on, and
47:07
we are two weekends from flying to Philly. Yes, I mean if Philly,
47:21
because I believe I could open a good death. No, you don't.
47:28
You don't really believe that he's a gambler. Of course he believes that
47:32
right. Well, he's saying that because he doesn't have his decks, so
47:35
he doesn't want all your little woe decks running around. So out of everyone
47:37
on this show, I think Sheep opens the most sealed product. No,
47:44
I don't know, he walk Mike taught me. Now, oh no,
47:46
According to my daughter earlier this week, she went downstairs as I put all
47:52
of my six boxes of woe on the shelf, and she goes, Daddy,
47:58
you have a lot of key for it because it wasn't just woe,
48:02
it was woe and world's collide in MM and AOA and French Away. I
48:10
think I have everything. I do not have DT and I do not have
48:15
CODA anymore. I got all that stuff. Yeah, so you have more.
48:21
You're on the show either way. The reason Sheep is saying what he's
48:25
saying is due to the fact if he does not want woe decks running around
48:30
at the Philly Vault tour, what he does not want them. I would
48:37
be happy to fight all of your um woe decks so far at Philly.
48:47
Okay, well then, but I could have a good one. But I
48:53
don't get to have a good one because don't not going to get as soon
49:00
as you take off on your plane. Yeah, I that's actually the date
49:05
I picked, put my own name on, and I picked a day and
49:08
that is all I picked. Money, Well, I picked one day before
49:12
that, so that arrives the first day that he's at the Vault. Hey,
49:17
I'm going for tomorrow because it's my daughter's birthday, so that that's lucky
49:21
day right there. I know you feel bad cheap and yes, it's been
49:30
hums at this point, Like, how do you find it anything but humorous
49:32
at this point, because it's just it's gonna it's gonna go as long as
49:37
I mean, at least it's not X ray. So I think what I
49:40
think what's frustrating for the international individuals. I think what's frustrating for the state
49:45
side people who haven't gotten their decks yet, is that there doesn't seem to
49:50
be a rhyme or reason as to why, like cheap, you and I
49:52
just aren't that far apart, and we have all other individuals who have come
49:59
to our locals then you you did, and I got each of my shipments
50:05
already, and so like that's what's weird is we thought originally they were just
50:09
bat shipping based on what pledge level you were at, but that clearly wouldn't
50:15
happen if I have a higher pledge level or this equivalent pledge level. It's
50:20
it's just weird. I don't know what else to say, because I thought,
50:25
Okay, so we see for our international friends that they're basically putting it
50:29
all into container shipments and then they're going to be shipping them around the world,
50:34
which that's going to be very very it's to save the money. I
50:37
get that but it is a very very slow process, and their frustration,
50:42
which has been voiced is that there are announcements of the release events happening for
50:47
their countries, but their game fund pledge won't be there yet. And that's
50:52
right. It's three decks sealed, so you don't need anything three game from
50:57
pledge, correct, But if you did order from game found as a pledge,
51:00
as a supporter, I can see where that frustration is is, Hey,
51:05
I'm not getting my decks when others around the world have gotten their decks,
51:10
or I'm not getting my deck internationally, and then doors in my area
51:15
which should have gotten it after me are going to be able to get it
51:19
first. But I think what's being correct and that's what I think we have
51:24
to be able to. It's it's a bummer, there is no question about
51:28
it. But I think what people are missing is that they're getting pre released
51:31
decks and it's a lot easier to ship that out is a container or a
51:37
to the individual store. It could also be sent to their distribution area and
51:43
then panned out versus an actual shipping space where it has to be broke apart
51:47
and then shipped once it is overseas, Listen, they knew when they got
51:54
into it, Gig did not. Here's a point where I will defend Gig.
51:58
You can mark it on your calendar, right they they were told you
52:02
will not be that they were going to do us shipping first than everyone else.
52:09
I hear that you worked except for like sheep has a legitimate grape.
52:15
I have a feeling that people in Canada are going to get their stuff before
52:19
Sheep does so. But there's other Americans too, and other peoples stateside who
52:23
have not gotten there. So it's not sure there's a there's a's just sheep
52:27
are a handful in our server that every day. Yeah, I mean,
52:31
but at the same point, like if if the international crew, like they're
52:36
a great crew, however, you were told it advanced that it would be
52:42
point A then point B. So I mean again, that's where I'm kind
52:46
of a sheep here, Like why do they get to grape like they haven't
52:50
gotten their stuff yet. I mean, you were told this is the way
52:52
that they wasn't going to go down. I hear you, no, no,
52:57
just it wasn't like hidden in the shadows like you know, CTP wasn't
53:00
over there, like ha, gotcha? And like, that's not the way
53:04
it went down. They were told like the order of events to which it
53:07
would proceed, and here's how it's going to happen, and that is what's
53:12
happening. I agree one hundred percent with you, hookie. I'm just saying
53:15
some empathy goes ahead and helps, because the end result is some of these
53:21
people are content creators. Some of these people just love the game. And
53:23
probably the hardest part for me waiting throughout the whole pandemic was actually once we
53:30
got to January and we thought that we were finally clear that we are going
53:35
to have woe. We'd gone to KFC, we had seen all the cards,
53:38
it was there, and I honestly thought that it was coming out in
53:42
January, and then that big brand came down saying we are you're not going
53:47
to get it until May June, and that five to six months wait period
53:54
really made it extremely challenging because you thought you were at the end and then
54:00
they're like, oh, no, no, no, just just wait a
54:01
little bit longer. And honestly, it wasn't that big of a deal.
54:04
It's half a year. We'd waited multiple years to get to this point,
54:07
and I'm thankful that gig bought the game so that we can continue to play,
54:13
but because we felt that, I felt that it was already at the
54:16
end and it was much closer than it In reality, the end result was
54:22
well and that it was absolutely horrible. So I feel for anyone international who's
54:28
like, hey, I'm still going through that, I'm still waiting. I
54:30
want to play. I paid for this, I paid a lot of money.
54:34
I paid some money, and frankly, I'm going to get a pre
54:37
release before my own Game Found campaign is going to get to me. I
54:40
feel for him, so I'm gonna give them empathy. Oh saying like you
54:45
should have reasonable expectations and reasonable expectations on kick Stars and game Founds is stores
54:52
often get the stuff before the people, and it makes everybody very mad,
54:57
Like that's that's just part of it. And it's because I think it oft
55:01
has is they don't actually realize how much freaking work it is to fulfill a
55:05
Game Found where every order is unique. That makes it a pain in the
55:12
butt to fulfill. It's not like it's it's not like stores where they're like,
55:15
um, i'll take six, twelve or eighteen boxes. Okay, Well
55:22
there's not a lot of guesswork in that it's just boxes where every one of
55:27
these game found is a unique package shipment, which, as we have learned,
55:31
Day are not that good at doing that either. Um, we have
55:43
seen many more shipping error emails lately, not lately. That was last week
55:55
that you displays that that's a years ago last week. I'm saying this week,
56:05
how about this week? We have not seen a lot of we've all,
56:08
we've all been anything this week at all. People get decks, learned
56:16
about identical twin Yeah, this week we got the Like, I don't think
56:21
we can name a single week since fulfilment started that there was not some kind
56:23
of issue. You know, I did see in the forum about the twin
56:29
decks that supposedly one person has a whole ton of twin decks, which I
56:35
think is further fueling that they Well I haven't seen that yet. Yeah.
56:40
I saw that somewhere in Sanctimonious Pop while I was waiting at the airport earlier
56:45
today. Um, see that gets closer to my like random theory is like
56:50
someone just hit printed twice. Yeah, I think it was one of our
56:55
buddies. I think just a guy playing was saying that he tracked down,
57:00
Um, he was tracking down who had one of the decks he had,
57:04
and like apparently whoever is is in some other server and they have a whole
57:08
bunch of like conflicts this one person. Whow so somebody got a display maybe
57:16
of all the other people's decks. That's what was my warriors, because like,
57:21
I don't know how there can be just one error like the we we've
57:25
seen now these things are printed, they're printed in sheets and sheets and sheets,
57:30
but they are multiple decks yep, So like it's like impossible to only
57:36
how. I'm actually more surprised we haven't heard more of the story of I
57:39
got a third of three different decks like that. That's a pretty big feat
57:45
because again, like you said, they're printed on sheets and sheets and they're
57:50
multiple decks, right, but but who but if there's multiple decks per sheet,
57:57
somebody's sorting them too. That should all be the machine, right,
58:04
the machine's going to do the cuts, all the automation, Yeah, you
58:09
would hope, I don't. I mean that seems I guess I don't know.
58:14
Drast course can tell you what automation can do. But all that said,
58:19
like the stuff we have seen in the past, right, like this
58:22
is the same type of printer that they use before. I think it is
58:23
the same um and we saw cards pop into somebody. We've seen like single
58:30
archons, like the the last card was actually in a different deck, which
58:36
is a problem that you would see an automation Like that's that is a thing
58:39
that could happen like one in a whatever X number we've Yeah, my KFC
58:47
deck, the first card was there, but that's an automation error. Yeah,
58:52
so like I don't think that that is the an issue that we'd be
58:57
seen in the new way of doing this either. But like printing something twice
59:00
is just a human error. Dealing with an error. It could be a
59:06
software error, right like like um off by one errors or or like a
59:10
real thing in software where like hey, you're using this one function and assumes
59:15
your race starts at one, and use this other function and assumes your race
59:21
starts at zero, and so like you pass the number into this function,
59:24
say start the process. So then later on you pass to this function,
59:28
say restart the process, and it like you get two of the one thing
59:31
or or you know, you skip one like stuff like that happens. Yeah,
59:36
when you're looking at the table. One of the tables is duplicated.
59:38
You're like, oh shit, like that happens, um, but that's also
59:44
a human error. Oh sure, yeah, like like that is we blame
59:49
it all of you though, yeah, right right, like yeah, and
59:58
it's all about how it is dealt with on the other side. So we'll
1:00:02
see what they do. Yep, they can just relabel the whole thing almost
1:00:08
unique game it is. It's like, so what actually, so what all
1:00:14
right? So imagine this has happened that that what we suspect to this in
1:00:17
the sanctimonious thread, that somebody has like a whole display of just other people's
1:00:22
decks, And so the question is what do you do? Do you No,
1:00:29
you're gonna like you're gonna reach out to ghost Galaxy. And what you
1:00:34
do is you go give us a dollar. You punch them onto these scoring
1:00:37
systems. Whatever one sucked, you say, we're doubles, and you get
1:00:40
more. There you go. We have had some pretty good success with Yeah.
1:00:49
Um, So if you're if you're GG, you got two people with
1:00:53
identical decks, do you pick a winner? Do you send them each a
1:00:58
new deck? Do you just say, well, I guess you have duplicates,
1:01:00
like, what do you what do you do you have? Though you
1:01:02
you cannot allow the duplicate that's off the table, all right, you send
1:01:08
it in or give whichever one scanned it second a new deck, Like that's
1:01:14
what you do, all right? So if the illegal name, that's that's
1:01:17
gonna be real tough though with like if there is a duplicate yet, say
1:01:22
if you have a duplicate number one, but does it? Does it matter?
1:01:29
We're gonna have duplicate decks here in a minute, We're gonna have deck
1:01:31
copies here in a little bit. Yeah, but then you send it an
1:01:35
email saying like that copy is different. They don't have QR codes. How
1:01:39
do we know the deck copies don't have QR codes? It was printed in
1:01:44
the article that we read to the audience. That would be really dumb because
1:01:46
I thought I thought the copies were going to be allowed in tournament play.
1:01:52
Uh oh, I don't know how that works work on card to have it
1:01:57
scanned, you don't have to have the deck there, but you're gonna need
1:02:00
to get a scammed m I could have swore it so I didn't have a
1:02:05
QR code, But yeah, you do need it. I don't remember saying
1:02:08
it didn't have it a QR code, But I mean, I don't I
1:02:13
read the article, but I don't remember what I read yesterday, soul.
1:02:16
Yeah, I read so many things on so many reports on a daily basis.
1:02:21
I couldn't tell you what I read. So, UM, I just
1:02:24
remember them saying, like you, they were gonna allow they were gonna allow
1:02:30
you to play the you know, the as long as you were friends or
1:02:35
whatever, like, you didn't even have to take the original deck with you
1:02:38
out of storage. You could just bring a you could just bring a copy,
1:02:44
all right, deck copy. So going back to Important Master Vault updates,
1:02:47
this was from the article from May thirty first of this year, twenty
1:02:52
twenty three. UM it had deck copies. In the near future, go
1:02:57
SCUCI will allow deck owners to purchase customer to copies of their decks. These
1:03:00
cops these decks will feature a special border and text to indicate that they are
1:03:05
copies. Deck copies will be allowed in official tournaments, provided the player as
1:03:08
ownership of the original deck. Deck copies can be important to players that have
1:03:13
lost or damaged one or more of the cards of the original deck, which
1:03:16
would otherwise have left the deck unplayable in tournaments. Further, some players may
1:03:21
not wish to play with an original, perhaps valuable deck, and tournaments making
1:03:24
a deck copy gives such players an option to play with a copy instead.
1:03:30
Then yeah, I don't actually see it pure here or anything about the QR
1:03:37
sorry, man, Yeah, that interesting. I wonder if that q are
1:03:44
on it matches the board deck. I guess it has to, because if
1:03:47
it's a different border, if it's a different border, they're gonna know what
1:03:51
they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not about It's just
1:03:54
curious to me that it is if it is the exact thing you are or
1:03:59
like when you scan the QR, it will show that this is the copy
1:04:03
of law. Well, the border itself will tell you it's got a special
1:04:08
border, and actually will I know. But as far as like what is
1:04:11
logged digitally into the event, like, yahn't ok if it doesn't if it
1:04:17
is anything else, like if it's the exact same QR code, you wouldn't
1:04:23
actually have a digital record whether someone's playing a copy or the real one,
1:04:28
which would be interesting true, But I mean, in theory, the copy
1:04:33
would be yours since you already own it unless you're that person that's renting it
1:04:39
from me, right right, yeah, rent renting, Yeah, I gotta.
1:04:43
I think. I think that's one of the things I want to talk
1:04:45
about next week is the copies and all that, because I got a lot
1:04:47
again, we got a lot of things. We know more about it,
1:04:53
Yeah, yeah, I mean we don't really do we know more about it.
1:04:56
I actually have been asked about that, and like, I don't like
1:05:00
it was a no because like I just don't know. I don't know.
1:05:03
I don't even want to wrap my head around that really at all. I
1:05:08
don't like it. I mean I just wrapped my head around it. The
1:05:10
only person who's friends with me right now on Master Vault is Sheep, Thanks
1:05:15
Sheep, no problem, Digital Hugs, neither Ewok or Draftcar. I don't
1:05:21
even know what Z is on Master Vault. I thought it was just I
1:05:26
didn't change my name a bunch of time because like, and now I can't
1:05:30
log in. No one could find me, which sucks. Oh yeah,
1:05:34
I'm probably still not friends with you because I couldn't find you. Yeah.
1:05:38
I'm now like big Underscore Underscores because apparently there's already a big Underscores and then
1:05:44
no one could find you couldn't like, you couldn't search for four four letter
1:05:49
things for a while. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I do all
1:05:53
kinds of stupid things to get my name on there. Well and well yeah,
1:05:57
yours has two underscores right now. What's interesting is Wookie at under my
1:06:00
uh keyforging dot com so keyforgegame dot com. It has shared decks with me.
1:06:10
M yeah, because I have friended you, you did not have friend
1:06:13
me back. Yeah. I don't know you, man, You're kind of
1:06:15
questionable. I'm shady, man, I wouldn't trust me. The sketch,
1:06:21
total sketch. I count my cards after every game, unlike some people here.
1:06:26
Oh guys, I know we haven't talked a lot of playing Whoa a
1:06:31
lot, but everyone has to do that. Your ship goes everywhere playing Whoa.
1:06:36
Yeah, after every single woe game, like you know, public service
1:06:42
announcement, do the pile stacks. Make sure you have thirty six cards,
1:06:46
whether it's your battle line bleeding onto like your neighbor's neighbors mats, or like
1:06:54
upgrades going on the thing, like your your cards are all over the place.
1:07:00
I didn't even think, like because you're you're gonna be sharing play mats
1:07:02
with your neighbor one hundred percent for sure with Wall so like your your neighbor,
1:07:08
just like picking up a few of your cards. I didn't even think
1:07:10
about that. Like everyone, there's never been another set where you are more
1:07:14
likely to lose the card in real life play I garant, I will stamp
1:07:16
sign that Dela Deliver. People are going to lose card. What is going
1:07:21
to happen? Going to happen? What is going to happen with that?
1:07:25
In live play? Oh my god? What I say? Like we made
1:07:29
a random joke about like one deck that had one thing in it that occasionally
1:07:33
flipped to the other side, Like it's hard to find a woe deck where
1:07:38
something doesn't go to the other side. Now now you're like, hey man,
1:07:41
I'm gonna make thirty seven tokens, so you and I are gonna get
1:07:44
real chummy. You're using the same sleeves and they just assume it's yours.
1:07:46
And now like four or five of your cards are just gone midplay. What's
1:07:50
gonna happen? Like, that's gotta be a judging nightmare. It's a lot
1:07:55
like there's tokens everywhere, there's cards going everywhere there's face down, face up,
1:08:00
like it's stuff gets in weird places when you're playing. Well, but
1:08:03
the good under your chair, Oh goodness, the good news is you own
1:08:09
the I mean yeah, yeah, you got eliminated from because you didn't have
1:08:17
all your cares. Bring three copies of your death to every event. Yeah,
1:08:23
yeah, I got a backup copy because people keep taking my just in
1:08:27
case, just in case. Yeah, this, uh, this definitely already
1:08:30
happened to me. So I actually met up with a listener, So Metal
1:08:34
Laxa and I met up at Victory Bruining and jam some Woe games and afterwards
1:08:43
he like text me a picture. He's like, dude, I'm really sorry,
1:08:45
Like it's one of my cards. It was like, all right,
1:08:47
wow, well that's an excuse for us to jam some games again. So
1:08:51
yeah, yeah, And it happened to me on on a deck sale,
1:08:55
Like I could have swore I counted them all, but I guess I think
1:08:58
we had played another game before we packed it up and I'd sold a deck,
1:09:00
and then we were playing in at our local last Sunday, and then
1:09:04
we were like looking at these cards and I was like, where are these
1:09:06
cards from? Like what deck is that it is, like, that's the
1:09:10
deck I sold last week. Um, so I just ship them more to
1:09:14
it, Like like, hey guy, um, I'm gonna send you another
1:09:15
free deck. This is literally on my fault. So here taking another free
1:09:19
woll deck and here's the cards that you were supposed to have. Sorry,
1:09:23
I thought i'd counted it. But like every single game, count your deck.
1:09:28
If it's in between games, count your deck. See and well no,
1:09:32
no, not during the game, especially if you're playing me. I
1:09:38
learned a great lesson at the Vault Tour. This was at Cafcason that vault
1:09:42
but vault ass is celebration and that is count your cards after otherwise people get
1:09:48
angry. M I don't know who. Oh, we all know who.
1:09:55
I'm on their side this time. Honestly, I throw myself over there like
1:10:01
I'm like, oh goodness, oh goodness. All right, Well guys,
1:10:06
it's been fun, but it's time to move into final thoughts. Well,
1:10:12
can I at least say that, uh TG, we do want to see
1:10:16
our international Vault tours announced. Um in the nationals. There's a whole bunch
1:10:21
of countries that should have nationals. Yeah, well okay, so Ze,
1:10:25
you had put was it two and a half months until it's four and a
1:10:30
half months, four and a half months basically when people will hear this till
1:10:32
there's a World's event. As far as we know right now, there's only
1:10:38
gonna be sixteen people at this thing because there will be three vaults and the
1:10:43
US National event, which will generate a total of sixteen players. So well
1:10:48
they had both formats, right, yeah, yeah, that's total, just
1:10:54
sixteen people at the event to play two two events. Well that that's not
1:11:00
true because I'm gonna win three of the events. So I think trickling down
1:11:08
the invite as much as they eat or No, we haven't seen anything,
1:11:12
but I will argue that they had actually talked about just changing up that format
1:11:17
structure and that it's not just straight invites. I had seen that going ahead,
1:11:23
and it's going to be open to others. Um they had mentioned there
1:11:28
maybe other ways. We have still have no clue what that means. So
1:11:31
as far as right now, based on when people hear this published, there
1:11:36
are going to be sixteen people at Worlds and we're gonna just call it like
1:11:41
the Murica style Worlds. There's gonna be sixteen people invite it, yes,
1:11:45
yes, yes, right, because you still got to travel. So yeah,
1:11:49
the rest are just crashing the party. So sign up for our patress.
1:11:56
Then you got to win multiple world slots so we can auction them off
1:11:59
on our page. So when do you guys think they'll actually announce? Uh?
1:12:03
International Vault Tour dates. International Vault Tour dates needed to be announced yesterday.
1:12:09
I understand yesterday, but yesterday has already passed. I mean we have
1:12:13
when is Sheep's Deck's gonna actually make it? Hiram Graph already lost. I
1:12:17
will probably lose tomorrow, but hey, I'm in it. But when when
1:12:21
are we placing that this is actually gonna happen? It is June right now,
1:12:28
I mean, like, god, honest truth, I'm not convinced there's
1:12:30
gonna be any I mean, the biggest problem is who's going to run it.
1:12:35
It's not Jeremy's Cross the Atlantic. He's got one of those weird one
1:12:44
of those cool cars that's also autemy. Actually owns the Magic bus, like
1:12:47
the Magic school the Magic school bus over there. He's like hanging out with
1:12:53
Miss Frizzle. Yeah nice, yeah, but the old Miss Frizzle, not
1:12:57
the new Miss Frizzle. Oh yeah, yeah, of course I like the
1:13:00
NUS for a lot, A big fan, but yeah, I mean I
1:13:02
do. I don't know, like if they're not announced now, Like I
1:13:08
mean, because a lot of the Vault attendance for you know, anywhere in
1:13:13
Europe involves like going to another country for a good chunk of the players,
1:13:16
right there's they all have great public transportation systems like that they do, but
1:13:23
they still involves some level of international community, right. Um, I don't
1:13:30
know, Like I I don't know if they announced the day, if the
1:13:33
attendance would be what it should be because of just life, right yeah.
1:13:40
Um. We were all talking about like how cramped the days that we got
1:13:44
for the three events including gin Con are and we were actually talking about when
1:13:47
they were first announced, like months of time and like all of these would
1:13:53
have to be done in time for them to chant then plan the winners to
1:13:59
plan travel here for November, which is not cheap. So like, I
1:14:06
don't know what that looks like. I have no idea if it's even feasible
1:14:10
at this point. I do hope it happens because, like we talked about
1:14:15
earlier, like you are alluded to our international people, there's a lot of
1:14:18
people that play Keyborgin uh like Norway, France, Italy is the biggest community
1:14:25
outside the States, like they have a lot of Canadian people to play,
1:14:29
Germany play like there's there's Hong Kong, there's the Philippines, like people all
1:14:32
over the hurricane worlds here they can they can just drive down right. I
1:14:40
think there are some I think there are some great players all around the world,
1:14:44
and so I would love to see an actual international experience playing in real
1:14:49
life, playing against some of these people that we've met online. It's fun,
1:14:55
um, but it's just a lot more engaging when you're sitting across the
1:14:59
table from someone. So that's my hoping Roalistically, October is too late,
1:15:02
Like you cannot plan at a vent in October, have somebody win a World's
1:15:06
Vent, and then have them have travel planned for November the next month,
1:15:11
early November, so like anything that they do internationally has got to be September
1:15:16
or earlier, and that puts it basically two months. I mean we're looking
1:15:20
at nine weeks at this point. Yeah, well that at least we couldn't
1:15:26
have already bought our plane tickets for Worlds for them to move it. Well,
1:15:30
that's that has bad. Still have travel doltus for that ship. I'm
1:15:39
not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, really, but okay,
1:15:43
final thoughts. Here we go. I'm trying to look at who's on my
1:15:47
sheet first draft car. Yeah, so go out and sign up for ABR
1:15:55
nine and three quarters. I did see it is they decided to make it
1:16:00
us only too, since it's a short season, and I think, and
1:16:05
you have to catchlow Dex and yeah, you have to have Wodex, so
1:16:11
short season, so sign up for that and then get ready for season ten,
1:16:15
where I'm sure there will be some woe, but there'll be other stuff
1:16:18
too. Mister e Walk Junior, all right, I got two things.
1:16:24
First of all, hello key for community. Please know all our international friends,
1:16:29
I feel you. Hopefully there's some empathy that's actually being shared, and
1:16:34
we know that woe is amazing, but we feel your pain. On a
1:16:40
different note, my family is extremely important to me, so tomorrow is my
1:16:45
little Emory's birthday, so I just wanted to take a moment and say happy
1:16:50
birthday, little girl. Long after I've passed. Please know that you'll be
1:16:55
able to find this on the interwebs. So happy birthday to my sweet Emory.
1:17:00
Then you have a wonderful eighth year and hopefully many more to come.
1:17:03
I love you and I'm proud of you. Dear doctor Sheep, what did
1:17:08
you just encourage her to like listen to this after you die? Yeah,
1:17:11
I wouldn't. I wouldn't encourage to listen to this at all. I don't
1:17:14
encourage the people that listen now to listen to this. You know, well,
1:17:17
you know what, what's your dead? Just put it on loop right,
1:17:19
because there is something um as my dad continues to age and is getting
1:17:27
quite high up there, there's going to come a point where I won't be
1:17:30
able to easily call and have a phone call that's going to be picked up.
1:17:34
And you take it for granted, but there's something very calming and reassuring
1:17:39
about hearing a voice. So I know, long after I'm gone, you'll
1:17:44
be able to hear this. And I love you all right. Sheep beat
1:17:47
that we'd play key Forge on Wednesdays, Sundays and Tuesdays. So play key
1:17:59
Forge US. I'm on our discord through TCO and now we can play Woe
1:18:06
Sealed and two of those rights. So yeah, stuff and Sheep, I'm
1:18:13
sorry and see yeah, and that all that other stuff. For all that
1:18:20
we've talked about that it is in the bad and ug category. Woe itself
1:18:25
as a set is really fun to play. I do feel for all of
1:18:30
those that do not have their their back back product yet. Um and I'm
1:18:34
excited for you to get it. When you get it. It is an
1:18:38
amazing set to play as far as the fun level. We'll see how it
1:18:42
does very soon in the vaults that we'll be upcoming in the United States.
1:18:46
UM. So yeah, I hope you all had the same joy I get
1:18:50
out of it when I play as soon as possible as far as tools.
1:18:59
All right, everybody, With that being sad, we'll catch y'all next week.
1:19:05
Happy forwarding everyone, May the forward you be with you next to me
1:19:24
see to see next week.