Latest / The Ben Maller Show / Hour 2 – Luther Doubtfire Davis
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- 0:28Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Happy late night hours to you.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Appreciate you checking out the show. The militias checking in
- 0:35Speaker 3: over here. I love that. By the way, shout out
- 0:38Speaker 3: to late night drug tester. I was just looking at
- 0:41Speaker 3: the who am I responses, and he just put you
- 0:46Speaker 3: are Jennifer Garner, who is fifty four today, and he's
- 0:51Speaker 3: got a gift you go gift for Jeff. I've gone
- 0:54Speaker 3: back and forth many times, Giff. I think it's a
- 0:57Speaker 3: I say, Jeff, you go. I was team Jeff for
- 1:00Speaker 3: a while and now because it's graphic gif right, seems
- 1:06Speaker 3: like more seems like more gift to me, So I
- 1:09Speaker 3: switched over team gift. Now. I don't know what it is,
- 1:12Speaker 3: but anyway you put logic to it, that's what you did. Yeah,
- 1:18Speaker 3: he's got a gift or Jiff whatever of Jennifer Gardner. Man.
- 1:21Speaker 3: She looks beautiful. I can't believe this girl is fifty four.
- 1:25Speaker 3: That's insane. Now, obviously this gift Jiff, we'll just say both,
- 1:30Speaker 3: was from well before fifty four. But I'm sure she
- 1:34Speaker 3: still looks FANTASTICA she's still in those Capitol one commercials.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Looks great. You know what. I bet she moisturizes. I
- 1:40Speaker 3: bet that's what's going on right there. Yeah, she moisturized.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Moisturizes is one of the topics off the air a
- 1:48Speaker 3: second ago. Men don't moisturize. They need to. We do,
- 1:53Speaker 3: We do need to. That's a that's a flun You
- 1:56Speaker 3: know what happens to me. I don't know what's with me,
- 2:00Speaker 3: but anytime that I put lotion on my face, inevitably
- 2:05Speaker 3: my eyes will burn like the world is coming to
- 2:09Speaker 3: an end. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Aren't
- 2:11Speaker 3: you too close to your eyeballs? Like I told my
- 2:14Speaker 3: sister this, She's like, I what I use I put
- 2:17Speaker 3: it on my eyes on purpose, like I put it everywhere? No, no,
- 2:21Speaker 3: And she's like, they don't burn it all. So I
- 2:22Speaker 3: don't know maybe I just maybe I'm weak. Maybe I
- 2:26Speaker 3: don't have a tolerance. You know how people have a
- 2:27Speaker 3: like an alcohol tolerance. Maybe I just don't have a
- 2:30Speaker 3: lotion on your face tolerance. I don't know. Yeah, I'm
- 2:32Speaker 3: just confused because I always see lotion at my male
- 2:35Speaker 3: friend's house, but they all have really dry skin. So
- 2:37Speaker 3: I just don't understand. We don't bother man. We just
- 2:40Speaker 3: don't do it. We don't like. It's just not a
- 2:43Speaker 3: thing for us. Guys don't care about hardly anything. To
- 2:48Speaker 3: get a guy to care is like it might be
- 2:52Speaker 3: a Guinness World record if we just care outside of
- 2:56Speaker 3: things that you normally care about. I care about sports,
- 2:59Speaker 3: I care about music, I care about guitar, I care
- 3:03Speaker 3: about sports, betting. You know, you get outside of those
- 3:06Speaker 3: core categories. I don't care about hardly anything ever, Like
- 3:12Speaker 3: so to be for me to be like, you know,
- 3:14Speaker 3: I got a I gotta moisturize, Like just that's that
- 3:17Speaker 3: how guys are. It's not how we are. We're just
- 3:19Speaker 3: not like that, not what we do, it's not how
- 3:22Speaker 3: we think, not how we operate. We're weird. I don't
- 3:25Speaker 3: know what to say, but yeah, the care factor, we
- 3:29Speaker 3: just don't have that chromosome or something. I don't know,
- 3:31Speaker 3: but I gotta tell you about a story here that
- 3:34Speaker 3: is just fantastic, And I'll try to keep it somewhat
- 3:37Speaker 3: short so I can get to the militia here because
- 3:40Speaker 3: some people want to check in. I can't believe this
- 3:44Speaker 3: is even true, so I have to read the first
- 3:46Speaker 3: line just word for word. The story says this, a
- 3:51Speaker 3: former Alabama football player faces charges of wire fraud and
- 3:56Speaker 3: identity theft after he alleged used wigs and fake driver's
- 4:04Speaker 3: licenses plural to impersonate NFL players for the purpose of
- 4:10Speaker 3: securing nearly twenty million dollars in loans. This is a
- 4:15Speaker 3: real story, is the real thing. So there's this guy,
- 4:19Speaker 3: Luther Davis. So Luther Davis. He is a former player
- 4:25Speaker 3: at Alabama. Okay, I believe this is where uh Luther Davis.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Let me let me get all these ducks in a
- 4:32Speaker 3: row over here. He he was a top one fifty
- 4:36Speaker 3: high school prospect in the ESPN recruiting rankings. He played
- 4:41Speaker 3: defensive end at Alabama from seven to twenty ten. He
- 4:46Speaker 3: made forty seven tackles. He won a championship in the
- 4:50Speaker 3: nine season. So he played d line at Alabama, made
- 4:56Speaker 3: a handful of tackles. No like huge impact player, but
- 4:59Speaker 3: he played in Alabama, right, So, so what Luther Davis
- 5:03Speaker 3: is up to now? He he's got a partner, CJ Evans.
- 5:08Speaker 3: So what Luther Davis, the former Alabama football player, and
- 5:11Speaker 3: CJ Evans did. They just impersonated three NFL players to
- 5:18Speaker 3: lock down these monstrous loans. So Davis. The first time
- 5:24Speaker 3: they did this, this was in January of twenty twenty four. Okay,
- 5:28Speaker 3: so Davis allegedly wore makeup and a wig to impersonate
- 5:34Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's tight end David in Joku. So he shows up,
- 5:39Speaker 3: you know, this whole thing, and he closes a loan
- 5:42Speaker 3: for four million dollars. It was in January of twenty
- 5:46Speaker 3: twenty four. So you know, Luther Davis and his partner
- 5:50Speaker 3: CJ Evans, they're like, score, let's go, let's let's try
- 5:53Speaker 3: to get another loan. So they do this a couple
- 5:55Speaker 3: of months later. This is April first. This is not
- 5:57Speaker 3: an April Fool's Day joke. They did again on April first,
- 6:02Speaker 3: and this time they impersonated another NFL player. That would
- 6:06Speaker 3: be Packers' safety Xavier McKinney. So Davis dresses up and
- 6:13Speaker 3: acts like he's Xavier McKinney. He gets a four point
- 6:16Speaker 3: four million dollar loan. Then in July of twenty twenty four,
- 6:22Speaker 3: Davis does this again. He shows up impersonating Falcons quarterback
- 6:27Speaker 3: Michael Pennix, and he secures a three point three million
- 6:31Speaker 3: dollar promisory note. And apparently he showed up to this
- 6:36Speaker 3: meeting wearing a quote unquote do rag style head covering.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Now that was a nice touch. Michael Pennix, he is
- 6:44Speaker 3: fond of rocking the do rags. He will wear that commonly.
- 6:49Speaker 3: And so to get in character Davis, He's like, all right,
- 6:53Speaker 3: the do rag it is, I gotta impersonate Michael Pennix
- 6:56Speaker 3: to secure this loan. So now they're in high water,
- 7:00Speaker 3: like Davis's his partner over here and the alleged crimes. CJ. Evans,
- 7:08Speaker 3: his attorney, told ESPN in an email on Thursday that
- 7:12Speaker 3: its client is scheduled deplete guilty. It's like, yeah, we're
- 7:17Speaker 3: just we're gonna just complete guilty on this thing, and
- 7:20Speaker 3: truly not many arguments we can make. We're just kind
- 7:22Speaker 3: of busted here. So it's not looking good for Luther
- 7:25Speaker 3: Davis and CJ Evans. But what a story. You know
- 7:28Speaker 3: what it tells me here, this is what this is
- 7:31Speaker 3: my major takeaway here. Not enough people who love sports
- 7:37Speaker 3: have jobs and fields that have nothing to do with sports. Okay,
- 7:42Speaker 3: that's what it tells me. Whoever was in charge at
- 7:45Speaker 3: these establishments that fell for this stuff. If I was
- 7:49Speaker 3: working at a bank, at some sort of loan institution
- 7:55Speaker 3: and someone rolled in there and it was like, hey,
- 7:58Speaker 3: I'm Michael Pennix, I'm like Michael Pennix, the quarterback, the guy.
- 8:03Speaker 3: If you go back to July of twenty twenty four,
- 8:07Speaker 3: so Michael Pennix junior earlier that year in January was
- 8:11Speaker 3: just in the National Championship game with the Washington Huskies.
- 8:15Speaker 3: They lost to Michigan, but he was on a big stage, right.
- 8:20Speaker 3: He had just gotten drafted. He's a top ten pick,
- 8:22Speaker 3: a huge surprise, goes to the Falcons, number eight overall.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Like his picture is everywhere, his face is everywhere in
- 8:30Speaker 3: the NFL circles. If I worked at that lone establishment
- 8:35Speaker 3: place and there's this guy who's really Luther Davis and
- 8:39Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, I'm Michael Pennix, I'd be like the
- 8:43Speaker 3: quarterback you're Michael Pennix. I would have been like, hold
- 8:47Speaker 3: on a second. I would have walked out and been like,
- 8:49Speaker 3: we got a six thirty two in progress. Six thirty
- 8:51Speaker 3: two and I would have walked in and been like,
- 8:53Speaker 3: how's the name, Mike, how's it right? Like there's no way,
- 8:56Speaker 3: like whoever fell for that? It's just not an NFL fan.
- 9:00Speaker 3: You just don't follow football. You're just not a football fan.
- 9:04Speaker 3: I could see if you didn't know exactly what Xavier
- 9:07Speaker 3: McKinney looked like, okay to pull off to David and Joku. Look,
- 9:13Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how big Luther Davis is,
- 9:17Speaker 3: how strong he is, like David and Joku is built
- 9:21Speaker 3: like a Greek god. And I don't know that Luther Davis,
- 9:25Speaker 3: who's last He last played in twenty ten for Alabama,
- 9:29Speaker 3: you know, like in twenty twenty for fourteen years, you
- 9:33Speaker 3: think Luther still looks like a David and Joku type
- 9:35Speaker 3: Greek god. I doubt it. So that's that's the takeaway.
- 9:39Speaker 3: We don't have enough NFL fans in jobs that have
- 9:44Speaker 3: nothing to do with sports. I feel like companies should
- 9:47Speaker 3: should look at this and learn a lesson from this.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Right where it's like, yeah, we got to conduct interviews
- 9:53Speaker 3: a little bit differently. You should look at the work history,
- 9:57Speaker 3: like all right, okay, graduated from this college. Good, all right,
- 10:00Speaker 3: you've worked in the field for wow, like over a decade?
- 10:03Speaker 3: Then pretty nice? Are you an NFL fan? By the way,
- 10:07Speaker 3: And if they say no, like you just gotta let
- 10:09Speaker 3: them go. You said, like, we might need an NFL
- 10:12Speaker 3: fan here or there. I don't say you do that
- 10:14Speaker 3: with every single interview, but from time to time, I
- 10:17Speaker 3: think that's got to be part of the criteria, right,
- 10:20Speaker 3: Otherwise you wouldn't be given out four million dollar loans
- 10:23Speaker 3: three point three million dollar loans for a guy that
- 10:26Speaker 3: looks nothing like Michael Pennix. What are we doing here?
- 10:30Speaker 3: That's amazing, man. They did this a ton of times.
- 10:34Speaker 3: They let's see where it is, thirteen fake loans, thirteen
- 10:40Speaker 3: fake loans. I don't know who else they impersonated, what
- 10:43Speaker 3: else they had going on? For more than nineteen point
- 10:46Speaker 3: eight million dollars, almost twenty million dollars they secured by
- 10:51Speaker 3: they're just thrown on wigs and like, I'll be Michael Penicks,
- 10:56Speaker 3: I'm gonna need a do rag for this. Definitely gonna
- 10:59Speaker 3: need that. And we should be able to pull it off. Fine, believable, crazy,
- 11:05Speaker 3: what a story right there. But they had everything else.
- 11:09Speaker 3: I guess that's what they did. They just built up
- 11:11Speaker 3: credibility with the story. Says they created fabricated personal financial statements,
- 11:19Speaker 3: Secretary of state documents, bank statements for companies purportedly operated
- 11:25Speaker 3: by the players, fake email addresses, the whole thing. But like,
- 11:32Speaker 3: I just can't get past someone who looks nothing like
- 11:35Speaker 3: Michael Pennix posing as Michael Pennix, you know what I mean?
- 11:39Speaker 3: Like that just that's a baseline thing.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Man.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Wow, crazy, but I'm curious how this is gonna work out.
- 11:47Speaker 3: He's not looking great again, the partner C. J. Evans,
- 11:51Speaker 3: his attorney says, he's going to plead guilty. So that's
- 11:55Speaker 3: not great. So maybe plea agreement, maybe reduced time, but
- 12:00Speaker 3: not looking great. We're talking, you know, fraud. They start adding, Oh,
- 12:06Speaker 3: there's this, you're probably gonna be guilty of this and
- 12:10Speaker 3: this and that's h's not looking great. But wow, what
- 12:13Speaker 3: a wild story. Unbelievable. I think you just need more
- 12:17Speaker 3: in NFL fans, need more NFL fans and your your
- 12:23Speaker 3: your place of business right there. I'll say this if
- 12:26Speaker 3: you can look around whatever business you have, right you
- 12:31Speaker 3: you work on cars, right, you got a body shop business.
- 12:35Speaker 3: If you don't have a diehard NFL fan in the
- 12:37Speaker 3: body shop, it's time to get one time. You never know,
- 12:41Speaker 3: you never know what's gonna happen. If you're at a
- 12:42Speaker 3: loan office. That's the major. If you're at a loan office,
- 12:45Speaker 3: get you an NFL fan and you will not be
- 12:48Speaker 3: falling for this hoo hook line and sinker man, because
- 12:50Speaker 3: that's just that's flat out embarrassing right there. Goodness, what
- 12:53Speaker 3: are we doing here? Let me get out to the militia.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is your number.
- 12:59Speaker 3: Daniel is in Anaheim. Want to hear what Daniel has
- 13:02Speaker 3: to say? What's going on?
- 13:03Speaker 2: Dan?
- 13:03Speaker 3: You're on Fox Sports Radio?
- 13:05Speaker 5: Yo, thank you, thanks for the you know, yeah, entertaining
- 13:11Speaker 5: a radio right here. And I heard you guys talk
- 13:14Speaker 5: about Mike try here, and you mentioned all these other
- 13:16Speaker 5: players and stuff. And I'm not just talking about my
- 13:18Speaker 5: try here. I want to call about Kelly Janson. But
- 13:20Speaker 5: since he talked about like Trout, he's the first ever
- 13:23Speaker 5: visiting player to home. We're in four straight games days
- 13:28Speaker 5: at Yankee Stadium. Aside from hitting the five home runs.
- 13:31Speaker 5: But I really called about Kelly Jansen here and what
- 13:36Speaker 5: he did over the weekend. Everyone's getting away with his
- 13:40Speaker 5: Yankees game and Judge, Judge amazing versus Trout. But Kelly
- 13:44Speaker 5: Jenson here, he got four seventy nine saves career saves.
- 13:49Speaker 5: Out of the six active leaders Kelly Jannsen, Grank Grimble,
- 13:54Speaker 5: rold As Chapman, Edwin Diaz, Regio Glacias, and Josh Hater,
- 13:58Speaker 5: Jansen leads to four under seventy nine saves and one
- 14:01Speaker 5: hundred and nine plus career shaves over the next active leader,
- 14:05Speaker 5: and he's the third. He has the third most saves
- 14:07Speaker 5: in the history of MLB. Along with that, he also
- 14:11Speaker 5: has he's also the leader in the stack cast era
- 14:15Speaker 5: amongst active players and just amongst players in general in
- 14:20Speaker 5: the stack cast era, and he has one hundred and
- 14:22Speaker 5: twelve plus saves over the next best guy in the
- 14:25Speaker 5: stack cast era. And really, if you ever go see
- 14:28Speaker 5: this guy, and everyone talk about Tony and Trout and
- 14:32Speaker 5: blah blah and even a role of this shopman, but
- 14:35Speaker 5: he ever have a chance to see Jensen out there,
- 14:39Speaker 5: He's got He is Elvis and in my opinion. It's
- 14:45Speaker 5: a very underrated story that not a lot of people
- 14:47Speaker 5: talking about. And he like I'm saying, I don't think
- 14:52Speaker 5: in many years we will see another Kenley Jansen and
- 14:56Speaker 5: the stack cast era. Anybody beat that record in the
- 14:58Speaker 5: stack caast era. He is amazing. He's a master of masters.
- 15:02Speaker 5: And you know, thanks for the time, and yeah.
- 15:07Speaker 3: No, good stuff, man, good stuff, Daniel, appreciate you checking in. Wow,
- 15:11Speaker 3: that's wild. When he's rattling off this stuff, I'm like
- 15:16Speaker 3: searching and like, holy hell, he's closing in on five
- 15:19Speaker 3: hundred saves. Ken Lee Janssen, Really when did that happen?
- 15:23Speaker 3: Like past my guy, Lee Smith, Craig Kimberl. He's right,
- 15:27Speaker 3: he's third on the all time saves list. We've got
- 15:29Speaker 3: two guys in the six hundred club. We got Mariano
- 15:34Speaker 3: Rivera and Trevor Hoffman's that's it. That's the only two
- 15:37Speaker 3: guys in the six hundred saves club in Major League
- 15:41Speaker 3: Baseball history. And nobody is in the five hundred. No
- 15:44Speaker 3: one's other than those guys reaching six hundred. No one's
- 15:47Speaker 3: even reached five hundred. But ken Lee Jansen closing in,
- 15:51Speaker 3: He's right, like not that far away from five hundred saves.
- 15:54Speaker 3: That's wild. I'll tell you this, It's funny. There are
- 15:58Speaker 3: guys that have the reputation. There are guys that have
- 16:01Speaker 3: the notoriety. You know, a rolled this Chapman who's well
- 16:07Speaker 3: down the list, like over one hundred saves less than
- 16:09Speaker 3: ken Lee Jansen. He doesn't have the longevity, doesn't have
- 16:13Speaker 3: the same stats over his career, but he had the
- 16:17Speaker 3: wow factor, right, the wow factor of e Roaldist Chapman
- 16:21Speaker 3: of like, oh my gosh, who can hit this freaking guy?
- 16:24Speaker 3: When he was in his prime, he had the wow factor.
- 16:27Speaker 3: And ken Lee Jansen the body of work speaks for itself.
- 16:32Speaker 3: And I'm not the only one who's like, when did
- 16:35Speaker 3: this happen? When was I not paying attention to? Right?
- 16:38Speaker 3: Like he just he didn't do it in a way
- 16:42Speaker 3: where you had the wow factor, not the same way
- 16:45Speaker 3: as Chapman. And you can play that game with a
- 16:48Speaker 3: lot of different closers. But I'm not trying to take
- 16:51Speaker 3: take anything away from him. I'm just trying to explain
- 16:54Speaker 3: why that seems like such a surprise to me, and
- 16:57Speaker 3: I'm sure to a lot of people, even hardcore baseball,
- 17:01Speaker 3: they might appreciate him. But man, I remember when Kenley Jansen,
- 17:04Speaker 3: and this really is meant as a compliment. I remember
- 17:07Speaker 3: when Kenley Jansen started struggling for a brief time, big time,
- 17:12Speaker 3: and give him props. He rebounded. He's found his stuff again.
- 17:16Speaker 3: And there are a lot of closers that man, once
- 17:19Speaker 3: it goes, it freaking goes, they can never get it
- 17:23Speaker 3: back to even close to the same level that they
- 17:27Speaker 3: were at. But Kenley Jansen has done that. Man, shout
- 17:30Speaker 3: out to Daniel Man. He's rattling off a lot of
- 17:32Speaker 3: good stuff in that call. But I am shocked. Ken
- 17:36Speaker 3: Lee Jansen is almost at five hundred saves and there
- 17:40Speaker 3: are two guys that have reached that mark in the
- 17:43Speaker 3: history of MLB. He could be the third to reach
- 17:46Speaker 3: five hundred. That's insane. But yeah, I don't know. I
- 17:51Speaker 3: think that stats and impressions are two very different things.
- 17:57Speaker 3: And even though Kenley Jansen has the stats, he just
- 18:00Speaker 3: doesn't have that wow factor, you know, Elvis, the Elvis thing.
- 18:05Speaker 3: It's like, no, he's not He's got the Elvis stats, right,
- 18:11Speaker 3: that's fine, But the Elvis like notoriety, like wow factor, No,
- 18:15Speaker 3: it's not there. And I'm sorry to say that Daniel's
- 18:19Speaker 3: probably cursing me right now, but that was a great call,
- 18:22Speaker 3: great information right there. I'm just trying to explain why
- 18:26Speaker 3: it's surprising he's gotten to that level. A lot of
- 18:29Speaker 3: people don't know that, me being one of them. All right,
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- 19:56Speaker 3: So I'll give you an NFL draft thought, and I'll
- 19:59Speaker 3: get out to the militia. Here. My guy Gunner, my
- 20:02Speaker 3: guy Gunner in Minnesota. I haven't talked to Gunner in
- 20:04Speaker 3: a little bit, so I don't want to ramble too
- 20:06Speaker 3: long because I want to. I want to catch up
- 20:08Speaker 3: with him. I want to see how uh how how
- 20:12Speaker 3: many games it's gonna take the Timberwolves to dispatch of,
- 20:17Speaker 3: not just the Nuggets, not just the Spurs, not just
- 20:20Speaker 3: the Thunder, not just whoever comes out of the East.
- 20:22Speaker 3: I need to I need to get the whole breakdown
- 20:26Speaker 3: from Gunner here with the Timberwolves love. We'll get that
- 20:31Speaker 3: in a couple of minutes here. But my thought real
- 20:34Speaker 3: fast on the NFL draft, Ty Simpson, the Alabama quarterback.
- 20:40Speaker 3: There's gonna be a decent amount of talk Draft Night
- 20:43Speaker 3: Thursday night. Should he go in the first round. I
- 20:46Speaker 3: don't think he should. I see him as a poor
- 20:51Speaker 3: man's Jared Goff from this standpoint. And let me be
- 20:56Speaker 3: clear here, because I'm not saying Jared Goff stinks. Jared
- 20:59Speaker 3: Goff puts puts up numbers. Man, He's put up huge
- 21:02Speaker 3: numbers in multiple seasons. So I'm not saying Jared Goff
- 21:06Speaker 3: sucks or anything like that. But the part of his
- 21:10Speaker 3: game that is trash is whenever he is facing a
- 21:15Speaker 3: pass rush, whenever the pass rush starts to put some
- 21:18Speaker 3: heat on him, not good. Not a good thing, A
- 21:24Speaker 3: very very bad thing. That's what I see from ty Simpson.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Ty Simpson, he started off pretty well last season. He
- 21:32Speaker 3: was playing some good football, very accurate throws, with anticipation, decisive,
- 21:36Speaker 3: all of that. And then later in the season the
- 21:38Speaker 3: pass rush started to get home a little bit more,
- 21:41Speaker 3: a little bit more, and he was a fish out
- 21:44Speaker 3: of water. So I don't see him as a first
- 21:47Speaker 3: round talent. I mean, time will tell if that's correct
- 21:51Speaker 3: or not. This is just a personal opinion. This doesn't
- 21:55Speaker 3: mean it's set in stone or anything. But I just
- 21:58Speaker 3: don't see Ty Simpson as a big difference man. But
- 22:00Speaker 3: you're gonna get a lot of talk. There are a
- 22:02Speaker 3: bunch of mock drafts like, oh, the Steelers should draft
- 22:06Speaker 3: Ty Simpson, And it's like, why to have a guy
- 22:09Speaker 3: who's a lesser version of of Jared Goff overall in
- 22:14Speaker 3: terms of production stats, numbers, and is worse under pressure
- 22:20Speaker 3: in my opinion. So if you're struggling under pressure in college,
- 22:25Speaker 3: what do you think is gonna happen in the NFL?
- 22:28Speaker 3: You think he's just gonna flourish all of a sudden.
- 22:30Speaker 3: I just don't think that's happening. So as much talk
- 22:34Speaker 3: as there is about oh, you gotta draft tys Simpson,
- 22:38Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you really don't. You really really don't.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Not in the first round. I wouldn't draft him in
- 22:43Speaker 3: the second round either. I'm just not high on ty Simpson.
- 22:46Speaker 3: I don't think he's that good and he's not that
- 22:49Speaker 3: experienced either. That's the other thing. He hasn't played very
- 22:52Speaker 3: much at all. So you've got a guy that has
- 22:56Speaker 3: some obvious drawbacks, not performing well at all under pressure,
- 23:01Speaker 3: and he doesn't have that many reps under his belt. Either.
- 23:05Speaker 3: So if you're thinking about trading back up into the
- 23:08Speaker 3: first round to get Ty Simpson. There some people say
- 23:11Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals should do that, trade back into the
- 23:14Speaker 3: first round draft Ty Simpson, And look, man, I get it.
- 23:18Speaker 3: I totally understand. You gotta find a quarterback in the NFL.
- 23:22Speaker 3: If you don't have a legitimate quarterback, you are screwed.
- 23:25Speaker 3: It's not happening. You're not going anywhere. So I understand
- 23:29Speaker 3: the thought process of, hey man, we're just trying to
- 23:32Speaker 3: get a hit. You're not gonna get a hit if
- 23:34Speaker 3: you don't swing the bat, all right, So you gotta
- 23:36Speaker 3: draft a quarterback. Take your chances. Hopefully it works out.
- 23:40Speaker 3: I get that. But also it can't just be a
- 23:44Speaker 3: wish and a prayer, you know, hope is not a strategy, right, Like,
- 23:50Speaker 3: only this guy is that good, but maybe we're wrong.
- 23:53Speaker 3: Let's draft them anyway. The guy has attempted in college
- 23:58Speaker 3: five hundred and twenty three passes. That is it. That
- 24:03Speaker 3: is not a lot. There's not a lot of attempts.
- 24:06Speaker 3: It's not a lot of reps, not a lot of starts,
- 24:08Speaker 3: not a lot of anything in college. So now I'm
- 24:12Speaker 3: just not I'm not a big believer in ty Simpson.
- 24:15Speaker 3: So we'll see see if he goes in the first
- 24:18Speaker 3: round and more importantly, if he pans out whenever he
- 24:21Speaker 3: gets drafted with whoever he's drafted by. But I just
- 24:27Speaker 3: I don't know, man, not a big fan. I don't.
- 24:29Speaker 2: I don't.
- 24:30Speaker 3: I don't see you know, stardom or you know, viable starter.
- 24:35Speaker 3: I just don't see that from ty Simpson. But hey,
- 24:38Speaker 3: I've been wrong before. I'll be wrong plenty of times
- 24:40Speaker 3: going forward. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but that's my
- 24:43Speaker 3: that's my best guess. I was gonna play out, okay,
- 24:46Speaker 3: as promised Gunner in Minnesota. I want to hear what
- 24:50Speaker 3: old Gunner has to say about these timber Wolves as
- 24:52Speaker 3: the NFL playoffs are right around the corner. What is
- 24:55Speaker 3: going on, Gunner? How you doing tonight?
- 24:57Speaker 6: You don't get it's been a while there, Brian, It's
- 25:00Speaker 6: been a while.
- 25:00Speaker 3: It's been a long time, Gunner. I've missed you, Yeah,
- 25:04Speaker 3: talked to you.
- 25:05Speaker 6: I don't know. It's been down before the All Star
- 25:09Speaker 6: Game when I said cat with the win three point contest.
- 25:12Speaker 3: It might be right. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
- 25:17Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm saying this right now. Nuggets are in trouble.
- 25:21Speaker 6: It's will be five games series at least there, gentleman
- 25:24Speaker 6: sweep spurred inexperience. I might give them six games under
- 25:30Speaker 6: we get a pay back for last year. Take that
- 25:34Speaker 6: six and he's will be a no problems there.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just right now.
- 25:43Speaker 3: All right, So you know we get rid of the
- 25:45Speaker 3: Nuggets in five a gentleman's sweep. Huh, Like you Timberwolves
- 25:49Speaker 3: are banked up right now, Julius Randalls banged up, McDaniel's
- 25:53Speaker 3: banged up. You got you guys aren't healthy enough to
- 25:55Speaker 3: be just running through teams in a gentleman's sweep right now, Gunner.
- 26:00Speaker 6: Uh, I'm I'm not worried about this. We have a
- 26:04Speaker 6: good bench this year, then, and we got Kyle Anderson back.
- 26:07Speaker 6: We yeah, I would assume he's he's barking this deep
- 26:12Speaker 6: in this team that I've been waiting for to have.
- 26:16Speaker 7: We got.
- 26:17Speaker 6: McDaniels is gonna be hopefully hopefully healthy. We need him
- 26:20Speaker 6: fully healthy. Golbert is healthy, not injured. He's playing one
- 26:25Speaker 6: of the best defense right now. Edwards just as a
- 26:30Speaker 6: keep up injury and one more thing, go to football
- 26:37Speaker 6: real quick. Okay, Carolina needs a backup quarterback and Kenny
- 26:44Speaker 6: Ticket is not it you think they're a track in
- 26:46Speaker 6: the first round.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Man, I don't think they just need a backup quarterback.
- 26:50Speaker 3: I think they need a starting quarterback.
- 26:52Speaker 6: Over there, you guys get breaks down the chance. He's
- 26:56Speaker 6: he's got he's got something. And I'm seeing this right now.
- 27:02Speaker 6: I'm seeing the future of a couple of Super bowls
- 27:04Speaker 6: for him. Because we always build our own mind. We
- 27:08Speaker 6: spend the most money on the old mine. We've got
- 27:10Speaker 6: to keep our line healthy. We have weapons on each
- 27:15Speaker 6: side of him. We have one of the best defenses now,
- 27:18Speaker 6: two of the best corners in the league. We just
- 27:21Speaker 6: signed too great on two great defensive players on the
- 27:24Speaker 6: off season. I'm seeing the team going somewhere this year. Wow,
- 27:29Speaker 6: at least twelve or thirteen wins.
- 27:31Speaker 3: Are you a better at all? Gunner? Do you you
- 27:33Speaker 3: bet on sports? Ever? I do?
- 27:36Speaker 6: I do here and there?
- 27:37Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'll tell you what U If you parlayed
- 27:42Speaker 3: the Timberwolves winning a championship this season with the Carolina
- 27:46Speaker 3: Panthers winning a Super Bowl this upcoming season, that would
- 27:49Speaker 3: be quite yeah right there. Yeah, you could read.
- 27:54Speaker 6: Yes, I wouldn't be I wouldn't have to probably work
- 27:57Speaker 6: anymore that.
- 27:58Speaker 3: You could just go on the spot. Yeah, you could
- 28:01Speaker 3: do the old FU F you, F you, you're cool,
- 28:04Speaker 3: you know, f you, I'm out of here. You can
- 28:06Speaker 3: do that. You can half baked in real life.
- 28:09Speaker 6: And the problem is my mom's a Rear fan.
- 28:13Speaker 3: And really okay, it's tough for her.
- 28:17Speaker 6: Watching games, but she's also a Thunder fan.
- 28:21Speaker 3: That balances things out pretty good, right there.
- 28:24Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Yeah, it was tough last year playing pint
- 28:29Speaker 6: each other in the conference fires.
- 28:32Speaker 7: That was tough.
- 28:33Speaker 3: Yeah, And she was like in your face, Gunner. Is
- 28:36Speaker 3: that what she was saying during the games?
- 28:39Speaker 6: Oh, we'd except room, That's all I'm saying.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Man.
- 28:45Speaker 6: I was TV is clot Andre another on this ridiculous
- 28:51Speaker 6: stop boxes get out of here. He's retired.
- 28:55Speaker 3: That's great man. Well, hey, good luck to you in
- 28:57Speaker 3: the playoffs, Gunner. I can't sign off on these bold
- 29:00Speaker 3: predictions of yours Timberwolves winning it all, you know, cakewalk
- 29:04Speaker 3: against whoever comes out of the East after dispatching of
- 29:08Speaker 3: the Nuggets and five and both the Spurs and the
- 29:11Speaker 3: Thunder and six games, apiece. I can't sign off on this,
- 29:14Speaker 3: but we'll see how it shakes out. Gunner. It's good
- 29:16Speaker 3: to hear. Remember, yeah, you said the Panthers were gonna
- 29:22Speaker 3: sneak into the playoffs and win the cesspool. That was
- 29:25Speaker 3: the NFC South That that's way more mile and you know,
- 29:30Speaker 3: Timberwolves gonna win it all this.
- 29:35Speaker 6: Remember that, Well, yeah, you had that in there.
- 29:37Speaker 3: That's true. Still, it's a far cry from Timberwolves win
- 29:40Speaker 3: it all this season. It's a far cry.
- 29:44Speaker 6: All right, we'll see, all right.
- 29:46Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. Good stuff, Gunner. I appreciate
- 29:49Speaker 3: you checking in, man. I like that. I like the
- 29:51Speaker 3: you know, hey, we'll see. I love that. You know,
- 29:57Speaker 3: if there was only some like at least friendly smack
- 30:00Speaker 3: talk with the you know, Gunner's mom just being like, yeah,
- 30:05Speaker 3: you like Shay Gilt, just Alexandri you know whatever, they
- 30:08Speaker 3: just you know, and Gunner's just living and dying with
- 30:11Speaker 3: his Timberwolves. You know, like, oh gosh, we're right there.
- 30:14Speaker 3: We're giving them a good game, we're giving them a
- 30:16Speaker 3: good series. We could just get some outside shooting from
- 30:20Speaker 3: ant we'd be in this thing. And then she just
- 30:23Speaker 3: has to hear. You have to hear, you know, Mama, Gunner.
- 30:28Speaker 3: That's what we do. Jalen Williams, get busy, you know whatever,
- 30:32Speaker 3: just smack talk the whole time. Some say that's what
- 30:36Speaker 3: keeps a family together, right there, healthy smack talk. My
- 30:39Speaker 3: guy Manuel is in Gardena. I haven't heard from him
- 30:43Speaker 3: in a little while. Man, Well, what's going on, buddy?
- 30:46Speaker 3: How are things?
- 30:47Speaker 6: Ah?
- 30:47Speaker 7: There's a million stars in the sky, but the only
- 30:51Speaker 7: star that we care about is the one that's on
- 30:53Speaker 7: the Fox Sports Mike tonight. It's my man, Brian. No,
- 30:57Speaker 7: I'm doing well. How you doing?
- 30:59Speaker 5: Man?
- 30:59Speaker 3: Thanks are good? Things are even better when I get
- 31:01Speaker 3: shout outs from you. Man, I'll tell you what. No
- 31:03Speaker 3: one rolls out the red carpet like you do. Man.
- 31:06Speaker 7: Oh man, you know I heard you about the guests
- 31:09Speaker 7: filling stuff earlier.
- 31:12Speaker 5: You know we love you.
- 31:13Speaker 4: Know.
- 31:13Speaker 7: I believe you won the Benny this year, if I'm correct,
- 31:17Speaker 7: So yeah, man, congratulations here you won the many so he.
- 31:25Speaker 3: I think it was. I think it was a sympathy vote. Manuel.
- 31:27Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, it was sympathy vote. But you
- 31:29Speaker 3: know what, I happily accept.
- 31:31Speaker 7: Happily accept now, brother Malard Militia, don't play you. You
- 31:36Speaker 7: won that fair and square, hey, real quick. I'm glad
- 31:39Speaker 7: that you missed the Gunner ak swing shot because I
- 31:43Speaker 7: know none of the Mallard militia did. Feel free to
- 31:45Speaker 7: take a few more months off, Gunner. We're not really
- 31:48Speaker 7: missing that unhyped call that you do every other week.
- 31:54Speaker 7: And as far as Carolina, my man, David Canal is
- 31:57Speaker 7: who I personally know was the one who made that happen,
- 32:01Speaker 7: not you, Gunner, so stop patting himself on the back
- 32:04Speaker 7: for being a fan of a great team with a
- 32:07Speaker 7: great coach. But it had nothing to do with you,
- 32:10Speaker 7: my man. Sorry. So getting back to the situation, and
- 32:15Speaker 7: I know I was calling too man, because I've been
- 32:18Speaker 7: digging the college tonight. Man, I don't know if this
- 32:21Speaker 7: guy forgets about Kenny Jansen in the twenty twenty World
- 32:25Speaker 7: Series up. Well, I guess the Dodgers did, because he
- 32:28Speaker 7: wasn't the closer, you know. I mean, we love him.
- 32:31Speaker 7: He got that championship ring, but we still had nightmares
- 32:34Speaker 7: from twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen and his closing. So
- 32:39Speaker 7: that's wish is to the guy. Like you said, I
- 32:41Speaker 7: do have to give him a big shout out because
- 32:43Speaker 7: he reinvented himself and after the struggles with the Dodgers.
- 32:47Speaker 7: Not only did he go to the Braves and now
- 32:49Speaker 7: he's been with the Angels and he's been doing this thing. Man,
- 32:51Speaker 7: So congratulation to him. But I'm not exactly Eric ganiy
- 32:55Speaker 7: is always going to be my man when it comes
- 32:56Speaker 7: to the Dodgers, you know what I'm saying in the closers.
- 32:58Speaker 7: But hey, no, you just want to check in your
- 33:01Speaker 7: love you my man? Hey, you take here, all right?
- 33:04Speaker 3: All right? You too? Manuel, great stuff. Manuel is the best.
- 33:08Speaker 3: He really is. Tell you what you know. There are
- 33:11Speaker 3: trolls here and there. You know, in sports radio, you
- 33:13Speaker 3: get someone you know, they'll tweet you and be like
- 33:16Speaker 3: you suck, You're the worst. Manuel. He balances that out. Man.
- 33:20Speaker 3: He does an awesome job. I love that. By the way.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Real fastest is to throw a couple of things out here,
- 33:25Speaker 3: because I do love Gunner and he's looking for a
- 33:28Speaker 3: backup quarterback for the Panthers. You need to look for
- 33:30Speaker 3: a starter, man. I'm just looking at Bryce Young's numbers
- 33:33Speaker 3: over here. Dude. The Panthers would be out of their
- 33:38Speaker 3: freaking minds to back up the Brinks truck for this guy.
- 33:43Speaker 3: You're gonna give him a huge contract. You're out of
- 33:45Speaker 3: your skull. Remember John Gruden said that you out of
- 33:49Speaker 3: your skull on the side was one of the best
- 33:51Speaker 3: soundbites ever. You out of your mind, you out of
- 33:54Speaker 3: your skull. That's what the Panthers would be if they
- 33:56Speaker 3: extended Bryce Young. Just a couple of things to throw
- 33:58Speaker 3: out here. So in his career, so we're three years in,
- 34:03Speaker 3: he's thrown forty nine touchdown passes in thirty interceptions. That's
- 34:08Speaker 3: that's what we're working with right now. And I'll play
- 34:11Speaker 3: this game every now and then. This is not the
- 34:13Speaker 3: end all be all, but it's just a gauge. Where
- 34:16Speaker 3: are things exactly? Can we gauge this? Let's ballpark this thing.
- 34:21Speaker 3: So his passer rating through three years is eighty point nine.
- 34:27Speaker 3: That's where Bryce Young is three years in. Eighty point nine. Okay,
- 34:32Speaker 3: So I play this little game like, let's just look
- 34:35Speaker 3: at last season. What passer rating you know around that
- 34:41Speaker 3: number was turned in by you know, a certain player,
- 34:45Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So eighty point nine, that's
- 34:48Speaker 3: what Bryce Young has done through three years. Last year
- 34:52Speaker 3: at eighty point two would be Titan's rookie quarterback cam Ward.
- 34:58Speaker 3: That's what his passer rating was last season. Someone who
- 35:01Speaker 3: is nearly four points higher Geno Smith. Geno Smith was
- 35:09Speaker 3: a grease fire with the Raiders. Last season. His passer rating,
- 35:13Speaker 3: believe it or not, was eighty four point seven. That's like,
- 35:19Speaker 3: that's much better than what Bryce Young has done through
- 35:23Speaker 3: three years eighty point nine compared to Geno Smith last
- 35:26Speaker 3: season eighty four point seven. Like that, you've gotten Geno
- 35:31Speaker 3: Smith like production for three years. Geno Smith like production.
- 35:36Speaker 3: Just last year was bad enough. I couldn't watch Raider games.
- 35:40Speaker 3: The only way I could watch is if I was
- 35:41Speaker 3: fading them, betting against them. That was beautiful. But if
- 35:45Speaker 3: you I don't know that. I bet on the Silver
- 35:47Speaker 3: and Black at all last season. But if you're just
- 35:49Speaker 3: watching their games, no bet no, nothing, You're like, oh
- 35:52Speaker 3: my lord, what is happening right now? That's where Bryce
- 35:57Speaker 3: Young is. You cannot extend and a guy like that.
- 36:01Speaker 3: I don't care how much draft capital they gave up.
- 36:04Speaker 3: That trade was ridiculous to move up and trade with
- 36:08Speaker 3: the Bears and get Bryce Young. It has not worked out.
- 36:12Speaker 3: I know they don't want to just you know, throw
- 36:15Speaker 3: it away, but you cannot extend him. You can't. He's
- 36:19Speaker 3: like a poor man's to a tongue of Iloa. Okay,
- 36:21Speaker 3: I went through this with my Dolphins. To a tongue
- 36:24Speaker 3: of Iloa. Led the league in passing yards one year.
- 36:27Speaker 3: He had productive seasons. He did some things where you're like, ah,
- 36:32Speaker 3: you can make an argument for the there's no argument
- 36:34Speaker 3: to make for Bryce Young. To extend him. You cannot
- 36:37Speaker 3: give him. And when Tua got that money, man the
- 36:41Speaker 3: rest of the team, you gotta cut corners. You can't
- 36:44Speaker 3: have the same type of supporting cast. I'll tell you
- 36:47Speaker 3: this to a tongue of Iloa Bryce Young. They are
- 36:49Speaker 3: both players who need a lot around them, and when
- 36:53Speaker 3: you pay the quarterback huge money, you can't have a
- 36:56Speaker 3: lot around them. And then it is a total grease fire.
- 36:59Speaker 3: Trust me, do not. The Panthers will be out of
- 37:02Speaker 3: their minds to extend Bryce Young. He'd have to go
- 37:05Speaker 3: ballistic this season for them to give them a big deal.
- 37:08Speaker 3: All right, eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox.
- 37:10Speaker 3: That's your number. Feel free to check in. You know,
- 37:13Speaker 3: I gotta tell you something that I've seen promoted during
- 37:17Speaker 3: the play in tournament. It's it's a nonsports thought that
- 37:22Speaker 3: is connected to sports, but I want to throw it
- 37:24Speaker 3: your way. See if you feel the same way or not.
- 37:26Speaker 3: I'm Brian though in for Big Ben Malor keep it
- 37:28Speaker 3: locked right here on Fox Sports Radio.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
- 37:32Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on
- 37:36Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
- 37:39Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no in for
- 37:42Speaker 3: Big Ben Maller. I'll tell you what I can. I
- 37:44Speaker 3: can feel it in my bones. Next hour, we're gonna
- 37:49Speaker 3: have some hot food takes. We're gonna have some hot
- 37:51Speaker 3: food takes.
- 37:52Speaker 7: Oo.
- 37:53Speaker 3: Food Radio is my favorite food radio coming at you,
- 37:57Speaker 3: not all next hour, I'll sneak in some drafts and
- 38:02Speaker 3: I've actually have a serious thought at the top of
- 38:04Speaker 3: the hour, and then we will absolutely loosen the collar
- 38:07Speaker 3: after the serious stuff. And Brie is she's halfway a
- 38:12Speaker 3: maniac with these Brioche peanut butter and jelly tales that
- 38:16Speaker 3: she's telling over it crazy wait till you hear that.
- 38:20Speaker 3: And then Yeah, I've got a wedge salad story for
- 38:24Speaker 3: you which sounds incredibly kinky for some reason, it's not.
- 38:27Speaker 3: It's a very very rated g story, but yeah, I'm
- 38:33Speaker 3: writing it down. Food Radio coming up there. You go
- 38:36Speaker 3: food Radio. I do have a basically a non sports take,
- 38:41Speaker 3: and I have noticed this during the playing tournament of
- 38:45Speaker 3: the NBA. So Amazon is promoting the holy hell out
- 38:50Speaker 3: of an upcoming movie called Balls Up. It looks freaking
- 38:56Speaker 3: terrible awful, starring Mark Mark Waller, and the gist of
- 39:02Speaker 3: it is they end up in Brazil. They're promoting this
- 39:06Speaker 3: condom that goes over the penis and the testicles covers everything.
- 39:11Speaker 3: They're promoting this thing, and then like Mark Wahlberg's business
- 39:17Speaker 3: partner or co worker or whatever, he gets upset about something.
- 39:21Speaker 3: He runs onto the field during the World Cup and
- 39:24Speaker 3: he prevents the winning goal from being scored. It screws
- 39:28Speaker 3: Brazil out of winning the World Cup, and so all
- 39:31Speaker 3: of Brazil is trying to kill this guy. And it
- 39:33Speaker 3: goes from there. It looks awful, awful, awful. And my
- 39:38Speaker 3: thought is, whenever movies are promoted this way, it'll say
- 39:42Speaker 3: from the director of Dumb and Dumber for this new
- 39:45Speaker 3: movie balls Up. And I'm like, that's typically a bad sign.
- 39:49Speaker 3: I feel like there's a very low success rate when
- 39:52Speaker 3: movies are promoted that way, especially if it's a movie
- 39:54Speaker 3: I love. I love Dumb and dumber. It's classic classic comedy.
- 39:58Speaker 3: When you're like from the director of Dumb and Dumber
- 40:01Speaker 3: and it's like balls up. I'm like, oh, it's a
- 40:04Speaker 3: terrible sign man, horrible name too.
- 40:07Speaker 4: It is.
- 40:08Speaker 3: They're supposed to hang, but it goes inside the condom.
- 40:12Speaker 3: That's why, you know. That's whatever. Oh got it, got it? Yeah,
- 40:16Speaker 3: that's why. Yeah, that's where I'm telling you, Lorena. Maybe
- 40:20Speaker 3: you could look it up. Look up the the promo,
- 40:23Speaker 3: look up the trailer. I'm on it right now. It
- 40:25Speaker 3: looks bad, all right, coming up next. Not everything is sexist.
- 40:29Speaker 3: Are you sure,