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Hour 2: Wedge Salads.. NFL Exhibition Games.. And we talk the best coaching hires in the state! · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 2: and uh, the Space Cowboys win another national championship against
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and forty teams in Texas, which is absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 2: All they do is win. Their alums win. They win
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  Speaker 2: Oh we don't have it eight fifteen. Yeah, you gave
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  Speaker 2: I want to get into. We will have Maggie de
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  Speaker 2: Lauter on Space Cowboys Project Manager at eight fifteen on
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  Speaker 2: the Farm Bureau Insurance guest line. We're looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 2: They just won a national championship for the Bagley College
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  Speaker 2: of Engineering on the campus of Mississippi State University. Not surprising,
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  Speaker 2: Space Cowboys. That's not the first time. One and forty teams. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we'll switch gears, Jay straight front Bo bounds
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  Speaker 2: with you. Somebody Texas. I thought it was pretty funny
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  Speaker 2: about NFL exhibition games. I've only watched one. I watched
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing, but I watched the one with Haines
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  Speaker 2: King in it. Because Haines King was a baller at
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. He's with the Carolina Panthers, and the only
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  Speaker 2: the reason why I'm intrigued is one I like him.
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  Speaker 2: I like his game, I like the way he plays.
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  Speaker 2: He's a her, tough as hell, all that stuff that
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  Speaker 2: we talk about, like the Jackson Darts and the Nick FitzGeralds,
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  Speaker 2: that dudes that just will it and make it happen
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  Speaker 2: in big moments, which fits and Dart did and others.
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  Speaker 2: But Haines King at Georgia Tech. First of all, that
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  Speaker 2: eight overtime game Georgia Georgia Tech was one of the
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  Speaker 2: best games I've ever watched in my life two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It was either Thanksgig Night or Friday Night or something.
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  Speaker 2: And two, he's at the Carolina Panthers and the New
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  Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. I know y'all know this. They play the
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  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers twice a year and those are big, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: your division games are beyond huge and big. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: intrigued to see what happens with their quarterback room with
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young and how this all shakes out, because I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sold that he's you know, good enough to to
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  Speaker 2: you know, be a even a pretty good starter in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I think he got what we call the brand bump
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State, Alabama quarterbacks and so on, Texas quarterbacks, they
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  Speaker 2: get the brand bump Michigan, right, Remember Ron Paulus out
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  Speaker 2: of Notre Dame ben O Cook said he would win
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  Speaker 2: two national championships. I mean, he wasn't even good in college,
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  Speaker 2: and so the the the deal here is that's what
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  Speaker 2: I was doing. As far as NFL exhibition games, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe it either that I watched one that long.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I cannot believe that I thought
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  Speaker 2: you'd mean to warn your whole life that may have
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  Speaker 2: been in I mean it's I think I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I did, because he wouldn't. He wasn't even playing playing.
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  Speaker 2: Romo got hurt, Kellen Moore got hurt, and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, Dak was the starter his rookie year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was like boom boom, but Kellen started
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  Speaker 2: the preseason games. I think you're right. So, and then
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  Speaker 2: they put Romo in in Game three I think it was,
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  Speaker 2: and he just has to run outside the pocket and
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  Speaker 2: gets drilled in the back, drilled in a in an
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  Speaker 2: exhibition game at a boy So anyway, No, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: but I have been to a Saints exhibition game, how
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  Speaker 2: about that? Yes? And those are those are ones where
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  Speaker 2: you just feature whoever invite. Thank goodness, I'm lucky that
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  Speaker 2: people with club level or sweet tickets invite me. You
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  Speaker 2: just go the game and get it. You don't watch
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  Speaker 2: any of it, No, No, you're there to get some
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  Speaker 2: good game day foods and a good cold beer. You
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  Speaker 2: watch two drives because that's when doubtful. But when you
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  Speaker 2: have like the start, I mean, then where your starters
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  Speaker 2: are actually out there, they run two drives in their
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  Speaker 2: out not really not anymore now that they shaved it
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  Speaker 2: down from four to two, you're not even finding that
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  Speaker 2: that's the case anymore. I was watching Andy Reid the
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  Speaker 2: other day. He was almost debating it with himself while
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  Speaker 2: he was in front of the media, which I get.
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  Speaker 2: We're always all debating our business and and the who
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  Speaker 2: what where? You know, but you could tell reads like
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  Speaker 2: did you do do he was? He was? I think
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  Speaker 2: he was debating strategically what he wanted to do in
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  Speaker 2: front of the Kansas City Chiefs Presses. Do you like fijitas?
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  Speaker 2: I do too, man. I love when you've got a
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  Speaker 2: good quality place that's got thedas masa, mesa and Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: That's a beautiful thing. National feat to Day. Is it
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  Speaker 2: cold beer? Top shelf Margarita Espolone? I'm in Espolone Tequila
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  Speaker 2: is on the show. They're great blanco reposado. You'll love it.
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  Speaker 2: Do some top shelf margaritas tonight at the house. The
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  Speaker 2: weekend starts at four o'clock on Thursday. Anybody in any
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  Speaker 2: kind of management or leadership or ownership position, it is
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  Speaker 2: cussing me for saying that. I know, but the weekend
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  Speaker 2: starts at four o'clock on Thursday. So fahidas and es
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  Speaker 2: bolone top shelf Margarita's on a Thursday night at the
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  Speaker 2: House on the Island. Is that a win? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you win anywhere else. Okay. Also
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  Speaker 2: National Bacon Lover's Day. God, bacon is a delicacy. I
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  Speaker 2: love bacon and on anything. I can't think of anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when you get a good wedge salad at
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  Speaker 2: a great steakhouse and you're it's air conditioning and you're
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  Speaker 2: with your buddies, and everybody is good. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a good vibe you're with. You're with three or
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  Speaker 2: four dudes, and you've already got some appetizers on the table,
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  Speaker 2: the fried calamari and the crab claws and some ravioli,
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  Speaker 2: whatever's going on, and the cocktails or or red wine
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  Speaker 2: have hit the table, right, somebody's got an Elijah Craig
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  Speaker 2: this or this or this, all right, you get that
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  Speaker 2: wedge salad that drops with that crumbled, crunchy bacon. Man,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that you've already ordered your Ribi Porterhouse New York
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  Speaker 2: up or whatever it is that you want. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good that's good living. Yeah, that that hurts to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, I'm hungry with that blue cheese on the
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  Speaker 2: wedge with the crumbled bacon. I love it. And whatever
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  Speaker 2: your beverage of choice is good grief. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how people don't like wedge salads. I questioned them immediately,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I think we should ship them to Siberia
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  Speaker 2: with fauci. Yeah, if you're not down at a great
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  Speaker 2: steakhouse with good buddies, you've got multiple appetizers on the
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  Speaker 2: including a bacon appetizer on the table, never too much,
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  Speaker 2: but that the bacon crumbles on top of a wedge salad.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that you've got a sizzling rare to medium rare steak,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to hit the table in ten minutes. Is
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  Speaker 2: that a beautiful thing? Something's got to start the party.
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  Speaker 2: And you know that you've already ordered the lobster mac
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  Speaker 2: and side National Bacon Lover's Day that pig lovers as well.
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  Speaker 2: We may have to go down to Beagle Bagel Cafe,
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  Speaker 2: which is a whipping twenty feet from us, and get
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  Speaker 2: Mark to cook us some crispy bacon. They didn't actually
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  Speaker 2: do it right. They do it right last time I
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  Speaker 2: ordered it from Sally, I got us like eight to
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  Speaker 2: ten pieces of crispy bacon. I'm gonna order it because
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  Speaker 2: Jack Bourgeoise coming in us right and bacon plus Key
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  Speaker 2: City beer is a win. W talking about winning, the
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  Speaker 2: Space Cowboys won another national championship from the Bagley College
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  Speaker 2: of Engineering on the campus Mississippi State. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: one of them next. Really all right, good morning, Welcome
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  Speaker 2: into the Out of Bound Show ESPN one oh five
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  Speaker 2: nine of the Zone, brought to you by the National Champions.
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  Speaker 2: Space Cowboys part of the Bagley College of Engineering on
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  Speaker 2: the campus of Mississippi State University. All they do is
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  Speaker 2: win Bagley dot m s State dot edu. As you
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  Speaker 2: schedule your campus visits this fall, and we want you
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  Speaker 2: to go to Mississippi State University and check out the
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  Speaker 2: Bagley College of Engineering. We talked about this with Dean
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  Speaker 2: Dave Bod a couple of weeks ago. The fact that
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  Speaker 2: the Space Cowboys went out to the twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 2: International Rocket Engineering Competition against one hundred and forty three
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  Speaker 2: teams Jackson Meadows and they won. They won it all.
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  Speaker 2: They're national champs, world champs, and we like to hear
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  Speaker 2: that in the state of Mississippi. We thought it'd be
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  Speaker 2: cool to bring in Maggie de Lauter. She is the
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  Speaker 2: Space Cowboys project manager, and Maggie joins us on one
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  Speaker 2: oh five nine to the Zone ESPN. Maggie, Congratulations, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning. How are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Were you confident going into this competition
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  Speaker 2: that the Space Cowboys could win it all?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do believe. We worked hard all year, we
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  Speaker 3: tested our engineering limits and unfortunately at the first test
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  Speaker 3: launch we had sailed, but We came back from that
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  Speaker 3: and built brand new rocket and tested it, and we
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  Speaker 3: were definitely sure that it was going to be a winner.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like somebody that's going to work for Elon Musk
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  Speaker 2: one day. We're visiting with Maggie de Lauter, Space Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: project manager, Bagley College of Engineering, twenty twenty six International
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  Speaker 2: Rocket Engineering Competition Champs against one hundred and forty three
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  Speaker 2: teams Bagley dot MS State dot Edu. Maggie de Lauter
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  Speaker 2: joining us. Maggie, where are you from?
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  Speaker 3: I'm from Vicksburg, Mississippi?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? What uh? What is your engineering major?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in Industrial and Systems engineering and I'm a senior
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, has it been Has the curriculum been challenging?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they try to strive, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: make it as much of a real world experience as possible,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and when we tried to get internships, it
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  Speaker 3: looks almost exactly like the same thing you would see
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  Speaker 3: in class. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool. Congratulations to you all. Right with the competition?
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  Speaker 2: How long did y'all how many months did y'all prepare
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  Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty six International Rocket Engineering competition.
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  Speaker 3: Maggie, Oh, my gosh. So basically we start as soon
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  Speaker 3: as we end the previous year's competition. So when we
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  Speaker 3: won in twenty twenty six, in June, we ultimate are
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, we ultimately started preparing for this year's
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  Speaker 3: rocket So pretty much on the drive home, we just started,
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  Speaker 3: you know, talking about it, designing things, and pretty much
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  Speaker 3: from June at the end up until about May is
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  Speaker 3: when we we work on that get it completely solid
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  Speaker 3: and ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: And you mentioned that there was some you know testing
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  Speaker 2: here and some hiccups and some challenges. Was it something
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  Speaker 2: Maggie where the team was like, hey, we didn't really fail.
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  Speaker 2: We're just going to learn and see what we did
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  Speaker 2: right and wrong and keep going. Was that the approach absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: You know, engineering is more of one of those things
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  Speaker 3: of it's not really a failure, but it's something that
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  Speaker 3: you can learn from. Yeah, So that's really the approach
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  Speaker 3: that the team took was, Hey, you know, the thing
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  Speaker 3: that we tried and didn't work, so let's go back
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  Speaker 3: to the thing that we know works, or let's try
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  Speaker 3: something else. But ultimately, it you know, worked out and
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  Speaker 3: it was a really great learning opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: How many rounds or stages did you go throughout that?
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  Speaker 2: What once you got to Texas and you started going
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  Speaker 2: through the competition, how many rounds or stages was it?
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  Speaker 3: Maggie, So do you mean like when we're launching?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, So the competition occurs over multiple days, at
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  Speaker 3: least for the actual launches. So we got out there
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  Speaker 3: on the first day and we got there I think
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  Speaker 3: at five am, six am something like that, and we
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  Speaker 3: were ready to go by about eight or nine. But unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: by the time we got in line to go launch,
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  Speaker 3: there was like a six hour wind delay because the
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  Speaker 3: winds were so high, So we didn't launch until like
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  Speaker 3: one or two o'clock. But we were still on the
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  Speaker 3: first day, and we were really fortunate because the next
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  Speaker 3: couple of days were completely rained out and definitely flooded
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  Speaker 3: out of the desert.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy, Okay, when I guess when you saw things
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  Speaker 2: play out, how do they announce the winner? Like walk
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  Speaker 2: me through when y'all knew, is there a lead judge?
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  Speaker 2: How does it work?
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  Speaker 3: So there's multiple different criteria at least for judging the competition.
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  Speaker 3: The largest factor of that is a technical report that
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  Speaker 3: we have to write that we are basically working on
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  Speaker 3: from the beginning of the spring school year until May,
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  Speaker 3: and that pretty much details every part of our design,
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  Speaker 3: what our thought process was, why we designed it the
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  Speaker 3: way we did, you know, different things like that. Also,
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  Speaker 3: the launch factors in so you have to hit as
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  Speaker 3: close to thirty k as possible thirty thousand feet that
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  Speaker 3: is the category that we competed in. And then you
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  Speaker 3: also have to run simulations. So we basically put this
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  Speaker 3: thing into a software that tells us how high the
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  Speaker 3: rocket is going to go based off of you know,
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  Speaker 3: the weight, how how tall it is, how like how
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  Speaker 3: pointy it is, the different fin shapes that we make,
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  Speaker 3: the motor we put in it, all these different factors.
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  Speaker 3: We put that into a simulation and it will tell us,
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  Speaker 3: based off of our programming, how high the rocket will go.
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  Speaker 3: So we have to tell them that and how close
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  Speaker 3: the rocket hits to that estimated apage versus the competition's
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  Speaker 3: set apage is kind of like a criteria in that,
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  Speaker 3: but there's there's multiple different, multiple different criteria and it's
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  Speaker 3: judged off of two technical judges and then also all
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  Speaker 3: of the all of the judges come together to kind
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  Speaker 3: of evaluate all of the teams and it's based off
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  Speaker 3: of a points system.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's incredible. I bet the celebration was was pretty
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  Speaker 2: amazing too. When you when you heard your name right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes. So unfortunately we couldn't be there
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  Speaker 3: in person because they had to continue launching into Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: so they had a live streamed awards ceremony, so we
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  Speaker 3: had to watch it live at at home, and we
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  Speaker 3: got a few Space Cowboys together and we were in
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  Speaker 3: our design room watching it, and first we found out
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  Speaker 3: that we won the category and we were really ecstatic
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  Speaker 3: about that because this is the first time I think
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  Speaker 3: that we've won two competitions back to back first place.
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  Speaker 3: And then at the end of it, they announced the
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  Speaker 3: overall winner and we saw up on the screen Team
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  Speaker 3: two sixteen Space Cowboys and we were like, no way,
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  Speaker 3: no way, that's not real. So it was it was
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  Speaker 3: really exciting to see that.
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  Speaker 2: That is awesome. Congratulations, Maggie de Lauder, Space Cowboys, Project Manager,
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  Speaker 2: Bagley College of Engineering on the campus of Mississippi State University.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six International Rocket Engineering Competition Champs against one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty teams internationally and domestic. Maggie, congratulations on
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  Speaker 2: your success and we wish you the best and thank
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  Speaker 2: you for your time today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Maggie de Laud soon to be Bagley College of Engineering
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  Speaker 2: alum from Mississippi State University and part of the Space
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys team that won another national championship.
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  Speaker 4: M h.
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  Speaker 5: H h h.
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  Speaker 1: H h.
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  Speaker 2: Off the waggle, good morning, out of bounds, ESPN one
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  Speaker 2: oh five nine the zone.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I did not realize that. Uh, I didn't realize that
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  Speaker 2: Week two we get the SEC versus the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take it, though. I'm excited about that. When we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at the twenty twenty six SEC football schedule, Week two,
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  Speaker 2: you have Texas hosting Ohio State and Oklahoma going to Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if the SEC loses both of those games.
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  Speaker 2: You can tell everybody's having fun that's outside of the
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  Speaker 2: SEC because that the league has been down one and
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  Speaker 2: hasn't won a national or even competed for, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: played for a national championship in in three years? Right, Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State in Indiana have won it. And do I
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  Speaker 2: still think our league is the best sure top to bottom.
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  Speaker 2: And that's even with Arkansas and Mississippi State and Kentucky
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  Speaker 2: you know, doing what they're doing. Then the teams that
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  Speaker 2: are using you know, Auburn hadn't been good, Florida hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been good, and LSU took a step back, and Alabama's
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  Speaker 2: taking a step back, and good God, George's taking I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know the drill. But week two, if
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  Speaker 2: if Michigan and Ohio State beat Oklahoma and Texas, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Danny Canals are coming. They are and they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: love it. The Florida State guys, the Miami's, the Clemsons,
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  Speaker 2: the Southern Cows, the Big tens, even the big twelves.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that is a good lineup for week two
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Texas hosting Ohio State Oklahoma at Michigan. Terrible
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  Speaker 2: scheduling by both, but great for us. So please understand
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: when I when I reference terrible scheduling, that's only because
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you know, as an athletic director and head coach, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: want to I want the I want the softest non
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: con and everything else you can get. But this is
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: delicious for week two, a SEC Big ten matchup. Could
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we get a national championship? Possibly? Yeah, yeah, I mean
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know Ohio State. I mean, that's not going
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to shock me. If they're in a national championship game Indiana,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I guess not. After that, I don't see another team,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: even with Penn State's easy schedule, I don't see that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: With Matt Campbell, first year head coach at Penn State,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I know he's been at Iowa State for a decade
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: or so, and then in the SEC. It wouldn't shock
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: me to see Georgia in it or a couple other teams.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked on the text line, bo, what do you
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: think Alabama does? Well? All you're hearing is Bama. And
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: we've talked about this is Bama on defense, Bam on defense,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Bama on defense. And they've got one, two, three, four
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: or five games to break in their quarterback. Neither one
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: has ever played, but they're both considered super talented and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: what is it Russell and Mick But I mean they
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: play East Carolina win at Kentucky win, Florida State at
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: home win, South Carolina at home, win at Mississippi State win,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and then they get Georgia. So I absolutely think that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Bama could go ten and two and make I don't
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: think they're going even better than that. But I think
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they can go ten and too and go to the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: College Football Playoff with that schedule. However, there's some challenging
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: stuff after the first five, and those three in a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: row after the first five are brutal Georgia at home
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: at Tennessee A and M at home that is a gauntlet,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and playing at Mississippi State before Georgia. I mean, it's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: gonna be a physical game. So you're then you take
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a week off and you go to LSU, then you
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: go to Bandy. Bandy's gonna take a massive step back
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Chattanooga and then Auburn at home. Yeah, this is this
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: schedule ten and two. You have to go ten and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: two with this schedule. The Boor went to the College
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Football Playoff last year. They smoked Oklahoma after the first
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: quarter and a half, right, but then Indiana just I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: mean crushed their souls out in Los Angeles at the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: at the Rose Bowl. I can't they thumped them. It
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: looked like it hurt they were They were hurting them boys. Yeah,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: physically imposing thirty eight to three. I would have in
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: my lifetime, even during the Mike Shula years or Mike
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Debos or Bill Curry. Uh, I would have no way.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I would have. You could have said Bama's gonna play
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Indiana and they'll lose thirty eight to three. And this
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: is when they were going on some hard times, right,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I'd have said, no way, no way, I feel I mean,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: no way. And Indiana beat them by six touchdowns, not one,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: not two, not you know, sound like Lebron or something
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: when he went to the heat with pat Riley, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: six touchdowns they got beat. Yeah, I see, I could
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: see Bama going ten and two. They have a they
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: have a really nice as nice a path as you
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: can have in this league. With nine games, they have
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: a good one. Well, and when Bama's been really really
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: good in the Bama that we know or at least
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: remember that, we know, they've always won on defense. Like that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: they've won on defense, and all you're hearing about is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: committing to running the football, which they should. Good luck everybody.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I think Lane was on the podium two days ago
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and he was having some banter back Lane Kithen, no kidding, right, Uh,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: there was some banter going back and forth between one
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of the LSU media Sure and this guy run the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: stats that Lanes led the SEC in rushing since twenty twenty. Wow,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it was. So even after the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: year after opting out of using his best running back. Yeah,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: what was his name? Bentley Ulysses Bentley? Yeah, uh o,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: deal boy, they're still there's still upset about that. But
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: then he came back and went eleven in one. Yeah,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, what do you say, right, the greatest,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: greatest season in the history of old miss football. If
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you own a business there, you should send him a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: royalty check. Oh can you imagine? We talked about the
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Velvet ditch, Hey Finch and Kelly my Man Patrick Kelly's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He's made a lot of money off Lane Kiffino Dad
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: winning football games. That's great, Ain't no question? Is that's
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to be. Love a perfect storm
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: it Keith Carter made the greatest hire in the history
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: uh college sports in Mississippi. And we've had some good ones,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: We've had some good ones, but he made he made
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the greatest hire. Who's who's second one? Who? I mean,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: who do you have up in your head? At least
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: there are there have been a burn Hiring Mullen his
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: second and uh what.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Do you do.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It's if who ever hired Polk up here? Yeah, I mean,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know who did that in the seventies, but
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: whoever hired Ron Polk Schaefer hired Mike Bianco, Yes, that's
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a really good one. But Burne hired both Mullen and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Cohen did Mullen took Mississippi State to number one in football,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: co and took Misssippi State to the Championship Series in baseball.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. So Keith Carter, Kithen, burn Mullin. From there,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: you got you got good coaches, Cheryl the Cheryl Hire,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Tuberville Higher, Paul Kier Bianco Higher. Uh, you're talk about
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: revolutionary highers. You tell my guys that went to College
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: World Series. Richard Williams final fourah, the only men's final
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: four at the at the power four level in the state.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: You remember who hired him? Who Williams? It was Scott,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Charlie Scott. They went back to back Charlie's before Templeton
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: took over. Uh, I think that's who it was. Bob
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Boyd was let go, were allowed to step down, and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: they really couldn't find anybody to take the job. What
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: so this is mid eighties. Oh yea yeah, Simby State
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: doll Miss have no money, right, they're not winning in basketball.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Bob had come close, okay, and he had won eighteen
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: or nineteen games before the tournament got expanded. He would
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: have gone to the tournament had had it been expanded. Okay.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: This is when you only played like twenty seven games
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: or something. He went like eighteen and nine. I don't remember. Anyway,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you had Kyl Patrick Wells and I think Ken Harvey.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Chaunsey was there yet. But anyway,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the point is you had the back to back two
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Charlie's before Templeton, and they couldn't find anybody. They weren't
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you know again, neither program had any money whatever, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: so it was almost kind of a well, I mean,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Richard's down the hall. Yeah, he's an assistant, he under Bob,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: he wants the job, give him a call. Let's just
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: walk ten twenty feet down the hall and hire him.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And that's what happened. And then he went on to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: do unprecedented things by winning the SEC Championship over Shaq
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and Chris Jackson and then going to a sweet sixteen
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: and ninety five and the final four and ninety cent.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Oh you're not being facetious, you're being serious, being dead. Damn,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: it's awesome. Yeah, that is cool. Yeah, that while down
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the hall. Yes, wow, that's what happened. That is cool.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And it led you to a final four and then
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: he went to a final for that parties. Yeah, threw time. Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and look old miss you know skip Bertman passed away
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a few days ago. Yeah, Ole miss. The reason why
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: old Miss baseball is what it is. Might be Anko
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: learn from Skip Bourman. Yeah, it's a program that never
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: won for the most part. And then all might be
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Anco's done for twenty six seasons is went, and might
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: be Anco walks like skip Bertman. He does, you know
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: he is. He was a catcher under skip right, you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: super cerebral position on the field, got to run a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: million different things. I mean, might be Anco. We we
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: have been able to watch what a skip Bertman, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: because he's part of the coaching tree. Yes, and Mike's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it's just nothing short of remarkable, especially at that age.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Don't you want to emulate success? Yes? Yeah, at all ages, honestly,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: but especially those I'll be honest, I'm really surprised Bianco
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: didn't get a national championship in four oh five, oh six. Right,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: those super regional teams, those teams that he and Dan
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: McDonald recruited, they just stacked talent. It just this is
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: before Corbyn got going at Vandy, Mississippi State was in
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the dumps. LS she was in no man's land Postpartman
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: because they hired Turtle before getting Minerry. I mean the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the it was a good, good time to be good
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and might be Anko. Those four, those three super regional
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: teams back to back to back, I think they pulled
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: brutal Miami, Virginia and Texas. It was not in that order,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: but I mean Garrito, O'Connor and and I don't remember
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: who was at Miami. Then Miami's falling off the cliff
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: last ten years, but back then they were good. Whyn't
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you do? I say, Virginia, Virginia, Texas and Miami, I think,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: but I'm maybe getting one of them wrong. But O'Connor
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: had just made the move over from Notre Dame, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: of course Augie was at Texas, and they like bonted
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: their way through that Super Region series or small balled
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: their way through that with with excellent pitching through that
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: super regional series to win it. I just went off
• 34:04
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  Speaker 2: This is Bar two, Hey bar two finds another trend
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  Speaker 2: or metric or something fun, something to uh to generate
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and follow all before NFL wise, is the best play
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: caller Andy Reid? Or is it someone else?
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Or yeah it's Andy Reid? Okay, it is since two thousand?
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: The number one guy?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Is it Sean Payton or any red? Is it Sean
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Payton or Andy Reid?
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, Shawn's right there. So Peyton is really good. McVay
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: is really good.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: You got read, Okay, Kellen Moore is extremely good. The
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: actual number one guy that put up the highest number
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: of points per snap is Tom Moore. But the thing
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: is with Tom Moore, he only did it at one
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: spot he did and he did it with Peyton Manning. Okay,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: So so you know I'm kind of quantifying here. Is
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: like if I showed you if I got on the
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: computer here and showed you my my cheat sheet of
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: of all the ocs, the one hundred and eleven o
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: c's in the NFL since two thousand, you'd be like, well, Dave.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Tom Moore's number number one in points per snap.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was at Andy with with Peyton, right,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Reid's done it with multiple quarterbacks in multiple franchises, so
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: so in my opinion, you go, Dave, which guy would
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: you rather have? I'm taking Andy Reid. So it's kind
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: of a matter of opinion. You know, I'm being a
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: little bit subjective in this, But if I had to
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: take one guy to call my offensive plays, it would
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: be Andy Reading.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. In in the two thousands, would Sean Payton be
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: number two? Or someone else? Bart too? Uh?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Sean Sean Payton.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I think Sean Payton was number five, still awesome.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And and if you look at his if you actually look,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I was looking at.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: His numbers a couple of weeks ago because I wanted
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: he had enough Uh, there's enough data on him at
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Denver to compare him to the Saints.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: It's literally, offensively, it's the exact same guy.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: He he he he is.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: What he did at the Saints and what he's done
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: at Denver is almost an exact mirror.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, what Denver paid for is exactly what they got.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: From a wow factor for me, uh, it's pretty impressive
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: to see a guy, I mean, what he did at
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: New Orleans.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Is pretty peak dude, as good as it gets.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: And to have him in in two three seasons, three
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: seasons flip that and replicate that at Denver so quickly.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I think he is just an amazing head coach, not
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: just on the field, but the management of the franchise
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe not a great.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Salary cap guy, but but in terms of fielding a winner, man,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: he is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: They got what they paid for.
• 38:21
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• 38:36
  Speaker 2: that surprises me that Shawn's fifth? Do you remember who
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: was too?
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know him right off the top
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: of my head.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I don't have to actually kind of kind of kind
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: of figure it out.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: You know, but but you do. You do have Kellen
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Moore there too.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Kellen at at at the charge of Dallas and Philly
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: won a Super Bowl there and it may have taken
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: a little bit of a step back last year, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember a lot of the you know
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: these guys off the top of my head. But you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Peyton stood out. McVay has stood out because he's gone
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: through several quarterbacks. He's been there a long time. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: tend to lean towards guys that have been in the
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: NFL a long time and have gone through the ups
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: and downs, you know, and still maintain a really really
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: high level. We we don't like one hit wonders. Okay,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: and you know so.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: But but Peyton is you know, we're we're splitting hairs here.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: How good he is?
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: He's he's he's easily top ten in the NFL since
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: two thousand, easily, right, So you know how you and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: listeners and you know, fans want to split it up,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: that's up to them.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he's he's as good as it gets for
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: the dollar. You know.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Now that now the overrated guy, it's okay, now here
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: here's here's so so McDaniel, No, you know who's really
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: overrated Kyle Shanahan.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I was just about to ask about Shanahan with the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Hey, Shanahan comes to my mind, and here there's there's
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: there's two reasons for it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Uh, actually there's three. Number one, his career performance isn't
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: very good when you when when when you put it,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: when you put.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: It all together, his average season is pretty average.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: There's nothing special about him. He's had some peaks, but
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: his valleys are really low too.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: And here's the other thing is when it gets in
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter and he's down, he doesn't win football games. Wow,
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: he he he's you know that Tyson saying everything's great
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: till somebody.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Everybody has a great plan until somebody punches you in
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: the mouth.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, you punch Kyle Shanahan's offense in the mouth.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: He doesn't recover.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: He is one of the worst in the last fifteen
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: years at recovering when you get punched in the mouth.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: So you know, and his offense, yeah, he could generate
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: some offense, but overall, you have him for ten years,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be pretty average. It's just not as impressive
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: as the buzz says. I'm sure he's a football genius.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: All of these guys who make it at the NFL
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: no football, the worst guys no football, you know, But
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: the buzz around him relative to the production on paper,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I don't see it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: All right, So I'm trying to think of some other
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: guys in the two thousands they got super high. Matt
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Lafleur has been around a little while with Green Bay
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: and before.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, you got you got you got, you got Mike,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel right with with with with the Dolphins. Yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: and now he's now he's with the Chargers. That's gonna
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: be fascinating. I think that is.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: You know, he's put up really good numbers at Miami.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: The question is the portable you know, did he do
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: it for a few years and regressed because the offense
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: was sliding right, it was going down, it was regressing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: It wasn't on an upward upward curve. But still his
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: numbers overall as a whole. Any NFL team would take
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: that over three four year period. But again, we.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: Got a limited data, so we kind of got to me,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: got to not be too far over your skis on
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: a guy who's only done it at one spot with
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: one quarterback.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Bar two on ESPN one oh five down to the zone.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Who is the guy that was under Dan Campbell offensive
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: coordinator and then he went to the Chicago Bears.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Yeah, there's there's a there's
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: another one. He'd he did great at Denver and he
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: immediately flipped the Bears.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: So he was highly.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Portable, uh and and turned that offense around quickly.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: So you can see. You know, you go through some
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: of these.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Younger guys with a lesser profile. Their numbers are as
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: good or better than Sean Payton as a whole.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: But Sean Payton also did it for fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: You know, come back and talk to me about Mike
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: and Ben and and.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: All these guys when they have a have a decade plus.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Of NFL under their belt. You know, it's hard to maintain.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Mike Leech protege Cliff Kingsbury. Do you have enough on him?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Bar two?
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. He's really good. He's really solid NFL
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: and college head coach.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: You couldn't you couldn't get me to give him a
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: dime to be a head coach because