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- 0:00Speaker 1: With more on the escalation of fighting between the US
- 0:02Speaker 1: and Iran. CBS News national security analyst Aaron maclain joins us.
- 0:06Speaker 1: He's also the host of the School of War podcast. Aaron,
- 0:09Speaker 1: good morning, So we've got more strikes, President Trump saying
- 0:12Speaker 1: the MoU is over. I'm wondering, from your perspective, if
- 0:15Speaker 1: this kind of exposes how flawed this agreement was with
- 0:18Speaker 1: Iran from the start.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, earl. Yeah, the flaws were pretty evident
- 0:23Speaker 2: right from the outset, and one of the most glaring
- 0:26Speaker 2: was that the agreement was premised on this notion that
- 0:28Speaker 2: we agreed the United States in Iran agreed about what
- 0:31Speaker 2: opening the Strait of Hormuves meant. But if you read
- 0:33Speaker 2: the text carefully and you listened to both sides talk
- 0:35Speaker 2: about it, it was very clear from the start that
- 0:37Speaker 2: they did not. For the United States, opening the straight
- 0:40Speaker 2: meant you open the strait, ships can go through. But
- 0:42Speaker 2: from Iran's perspective, it meant they controlled the strait, and
- 0:45Speaker 2: the IRGC, the Iranian military body that's been operating in
- 0:49Speaker 2: the Straight true to character, interpreted that as meaning if
- 0:52Speaker 2: ships don't comply with our instructions, we get to shoot
- 0:54Speaker 2: at them, and that's exactly what's led to where we are.
- 0:57Speaker 1: So do you think we are now back at the
- 1:00Speaker 1: same levels of engagement that we saw pre MoU from
- 1:04Speaker 1: March and April.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Right, So, now here's the question. Is this going to
- 1:08Speaker 2: be an escalation back to those really intense early days
- 1:11Speaker 2: or are we in some kind of new normal where
- 1:14Speaker 2: there are going to be intermittent rounds of mid grade violence,
- 1:17Speaker 2: diplomatic initiatives that start and perhaps stop. And unfortunately, this
- 1:20Speaker 2: kind of confusing situation that we're in just persists. It's
- 1:23Speaker 2: too soon to say. I'm looking at the nature of
- 1:26Speaker 2: the target struck last night. There was some level of
- 1:28Speaker 2: escalation on the American side. We did hit a couple
- 1:31Speaker 2: of infrastructure targets, these railroad targets, which was interesting to me.
- 1:34Speaker 2: The scope of our strikes did expand out from the
- 1:37Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz area. We saw a pretty intense Iranian response.
- 1:40Speaker 2: So the possibility of real escalation, of course exists. I'm
- 1:43Speaker 2: not sure the appetite exists on both sides for that,
- 1:46Speaker 2: and it's possible that what we see right now is
- 1:48Speaker 2: what we need to get used to.
- 1:49Speaker 1: But Auron viewers who've listened to President Trump say that
- 1:52Speaker 1: the war has been one that Iran's military has been obliterated.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Would be confused as to how they're still able to
- 2:00Speaker 1: target I guess US bases in the region housed by
- 2:05Speaker 1: US allies. So what does this show about Iran's fighting capabilities?
- 2:10Speaker 2: Well, they were never reduced to zero, and then there's
- 2:12Speaker 2: been several months since April during the ceasefire period and
- 2:16Speaker 2: then the MoU period short lived that it was where
- 2:18Speaker 2: they've had time to reconstitute their forces. Something else the
- 2:21Speaker 2: President said just in the last twenty four hours is
- 2:23Speaker 2: whatever happens next, it's going to be quick. I think
- 2:26Speaker 2: that's the one thing that's least likely to be true.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I think it's very unlikely that this is going to
- 2:29Speaker 2: be quickly resolved.
- 2:31Speaker 1: All right. Aran McLain joining us with his analysis, Aaron,
- 2:34Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Iran will bury its slain Supreme
- 2:38Speaker 1: leader Ali Komanee today after a week of mass funeral processions.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Thousands of mourners attended ceremonies in Iraq's holy cities. You
- 2:47Speaker 1: can see him massive crowds lifting coffins through the streets
- 2:50Speaker 1: yesterday before it was transported to or back to Iran.
- 2:54Speaker 1: CBS News Middle East contributor Courtney Keeley is hire with
- 2:57Speaker 1: us now in studio to give us some analysis on
- 3:00Speaker 1: what this soul means. Court Niquod Morning, How significant is
- 3:03Speaker 1: that footage that we saw huge crowds not in Iran
- 3:06Speaker 1: where you might expect, but also in Iraq.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Right, the holy city of Karbola is where Hussein died.
- 3:13Speaker 3: He's the central martyr of the tenets of this interpretation
- 3:19Speaker 3: of Shia Islam. So by going to najev and Carbola,
- 3:22Speaker 3: excuse me, it was Carbalo where he was killed and
- 3:25Speaker 3: his family members were killed, So that mirrors the way
- 3:29Speaker 3: they're putting out the death of Hamoni and his family
- 3:33Speaker 3: sort of the parallel to saying the parallel to martyrdom
- 3:37Speaker 3: and resistance. But politically, it's also playing a role of
- 3:41Speaker 3: Iran still has a very powerful presence in Iraq and
- 3:46Speaker 3: a Shia presence at that which they gained that foothold
- 3:50Speaker 3: after the invasion of the US invasion, and so this
- 3:55Speaker 3: is a political and a spiritual religious kind of move
- 3:58Speaker 3: to have gone from Tehran, a holy city of Kolm,
- 4:02Speaker 3: to the holy cities of Karbala and Najaf and now
- 4:06Speaker 3: to Mushtad.
- 4:07Speaker 1: And in general, Iran had emphasized this concept of a
- 4:11Speaker 1: Shia crescent of its influence in the Middle East that
- 4:14Speaker 1: went beyond and only its own borders, but into Iraq,
- 4:17Speaker 1: into Yemen. So is Iran trying to send a message
- 4:21Speaker 1: to the US with its funeral staging for its former
- 4:25Speaker 1: supreme leader.
- 4:26Speaker 3: Well, it's a sending a message to the world because
- 4:28Speaker 3: Heswell is still active in southern Lebanon. They had fought
- 4:32Speaker 3: and the Iranians had fought on the side of the
- 4:34Speaker 3: Shahalah side in the civil war in Syria, and like
- 4:37Speaker 3: you said, Yemen and Iraq, and so it really shows
- 4:41Speaker 3: the dominance or what they're trying to show, avoiding the
- 4:44Speaker 3: domestic issues at home and showing that these massive crowds
- 4:48Speaker 3: are part of this, you know, continued revolutionary zeal this
- 4:51Speaker 3: still belief system. And you did see, you know, millions
- 4:56Speaker 3: of people comparatively to all these places. It can't be dismissed.
- 5:00Speaker 3: But moch Tabahamone has not been seen. He's not visible.
- 5:05Speaker 3: He's like the invisible Ayatola. And what does that mean.
- 5:09Speaker 3: I hear he's disfigured. I've heard that. Nobody can confirm that,
- 5:13Speaker 3: but he's in hiding. He's not taking over. He's supposed
- 5:15Speaker 3: to be the visible presence of God on earth, taking
- 5:18Speaker 3: over from his father, and we can't see him.
- 5:21Speaker 1: So around avoiding any focus on its domestic issues, which,
- 5:24Speaker 1: as you've shared with us, are quite extensive. Corney Keeley,
- 5:27Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here.