Latest / The Mark Simone Show / Hour 1: Epstein's suicide note.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now this is the Mark Simon Show on seventen Wow. Well, hey,
- 0:10Speaker 1: it turned out to be a nice day. It's gonna
- 0:12Speaker 1: be a very nice a lot of sun today. It'll
- 0:14Speaker 1: be nice like that's tomorrow and then rain on Saturday
- 0:17Speaker 1: and not that.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Man.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Hey, we got a lot to get to. We'll get
- 0:20Speaker 1: to a crazy mom Donnie. Uh. These billionaires are banding together,
- 0:27Speaker 1: and let's see how this war turns out between them
- 0:30Speaker 1: and him. And we'll get to Iran. We'll get to
- 0:33Speaker 1: Colbert leaving us, thank god. And we'll get to Marco Rubio,
- 0:37Speaker 1: he's on his way to meet with the Pope as
- 0:40Speaker 1: we speak. We'll get to Jeffrey Epstein, Ted Turner and
- 0:43Speaker 1: a whole lot more. Iran will keep looking for that deal.
- 0:49Speaker 1: And let me see your here is turned Well.
- 0:53Speaker 3: I don't want to say that, but I mean, people say,
- 0:56Speaker 3: why aren't they protesting? They want to protest, but they
- 0:59Speaker 3: don't have to guns. So you could have two hundred
- 1:02Speaker 3: thousand people protesting and have five or six sick people
- 1:05Speaker 3: with guns and when they start shooting them right between
- 1:08Speaker 3: the eyes.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean expecting the people to go out
- 1:12Speaker 1: there and take down this regime. That's a lot to
- 1:15Speaker 1: expect who's actually in control.
- 1:17Speaker 4: In the case of Iran, we're not going to let
- 1:19Speaker 4: Iran have a nuclear weapon, and we're not going to
- 1:22Speaker 4: let that happen, and we won't let that happen. And
- 1:26Speaker 4: so we're dealing with people that want to make a
- 1:29Speaker 4: deal very much, and we'll see whether or not they
- 1:31Speaker 4: can make a deal of satisfactory to us. We have
- 1:34Speaker 4: it very much under control.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, as they say, Iran loses every war and
- 1:40Speaker 1: wins every negotiation. Are pretty good at that, although they've
- 1:44Speaker 1: never been up against a real negotiator. It's usually those
- 1:47Speaker 1: State Department idiots with the briefing books. Trump the master negotiator,
- 1:52Speaker 1: So this may take a little longer than expected, but
- 1:56Speaker 1: it'll get done. Also, Trump asked about the ball Now
- 2:00Speaker 1: he's talking about a billion dollars. The reason for that,
- 2:03Speaker 1: they've decided to as long as they're going to open
- 2:06Speaker 1: up the ground and do all that stuff to put
- 2:08Speaker 1: a lot of things under the ballroom, they need a
- 2:11Speaker 1: whole new underground bunker. There's one in the White House now,
- 2:14Speaker 1: but apparently it's very outdated, and there's all kinds of
- 2:20Speaker 1: new technology and new ways to make it more bomb proof. Bulletproof,
- 2:24Speaker 1: all kinds of proof, so they want to do that. Also,
- 2:27Speaker 1: there's a White House doctor who's always there too. Sometimes
- 2:31Speaker 1: there's two doctors. There's a little medical center with a
- 2:34Speaker 1: little equipment in there. As long as they're going to
- 2:36Speaker 1: do all this, they want to put in a real
- 2:38Speaker 1: serious medical center in the White House. All kinds of
- 2:42Speaker 1: stuff to do under there. Now, the ballroom, it's going
- 2:45Speaker 1: to be a little more expensive than your average ballroom
- 2:46Speaker 1: because it's got to be bomb proof, bulletproof, drone proof,
- 2:50Speaker 1: all that stuff. Here's President Trump.
- 2:52Speaker 4: I usually have a glass sets about a quarter of
- 2:55Speaker 4: an inch thick. This is about six inches thick. This
- 2:59Speaker 4: can repel a lot of different a lot of different weapons.
- 3:03Speaker 4: But it's going to be it's going to be aside
- 3:06Speaker 4: from being secure, it's going to be the most I
- 3:07Speaker 4: think it's going to be the most beautiful ball room
- 3:09Speaker 4: ever built.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Yeah, well probably will be. You know, millions of presidents
- 3:14Speaker 1: have been calling for this ballroom. They've all said they
- 3:16Speaker 1: need it. There's no question about that. If you're ever
- 3:19Speaker 1: going to build the ballroom, obviously it would make sense
- 3:23Speaker 1: to do it while in the White House. You got
- 3:25Speaker 1: the best ballroom builder in America in office. When's that
- 3:28Speaker 1: going to ever happen again? You mentioned Obama trying to
- 3:31Speaker 1: build something, or any other president a politician mentioned Joe
- 3:35Speaker 1: Biden trying to or even George w Ws. These guys
- 3:37Speaker 1: aren't builders. They don't know how to you know, you know,
- 3:41Speaker 1: they fall for the every trick of every contractor. You
- 3:44Speaker 1: got the greatest builder in the world, the world expert
- 3:47Speaker 1: on building ballrooms. He's built them all over the world.
- 3:49Speaker 1: As long as he's there in office, let's get it done. Now.
- 3:53Speaker 1: It's going to take a while, you know, it's not
- 3:55Speaker 1: it's not really building it for himself. By the time
- 3:57Speaker 1: it's finished, he'll probably only have a few months to
- 4:00Speaker 1: use it. So it's really for other presidents. A pretty
- 4:03Speaker 1: good thing. The Epstein files, well there's a suicide note
- 4:07Speaker 1: now that has not been authenticated. Supposedly it's Jeffrey Epstein's
- 4:13Speaker 1: suicide note. The question is was it suicide or was
- 4:16Speaker 1: he killed that somebody strangle him. Well, there's a guy
- 4:20Speaker 1: in that prison who people always like to suspect was
- 4:24Speaker 1: the guy that did it. He's an ex cop who's
- 4:26Speaker 1: I think it was Epstein's cell made at one point,
- 4:29Speaker 1: but there a number of people online suspecting it was
- 4:33Speaker 1: him that might have killed Epstein. So there's a suicide note.
- 4:37Speaker 1: The problem is the guy that we're talking about, he's
- 4:39Speaker 1: the guy that found it. He's the guy that says
- 4:41Speaker 1: it's Epstein's suicide note. So do we trust this other prisoner?
- 4:45Speaker 1: I don't know? And where's it been all along? He said,
- 4:49Speaker 1: he knows he's being suspected of being the strangler. But
- 4:55Speaker 1: he said that's why he kept the note to prove
- 4:57Speaker 1: that it was suicide, to prove his innocence. Well, if
- 5:00Speaker 1: that's the case, why didn't he release it the next day?
- 5:03Speaker 1: Why was he hanging on to it?
- 5:04Speaker 2: Now?
- 5:05Speaker 1: You might see some stories where they say it's authenticated,
- 5:07Speaker 1: but if you read the sentence carefully, it said this
- 5:12Speaker 1: other guy's lawyers authenticated it. Well, that doesn't count. It
- 5:16Speaker 1: doesn't count. The police would have to actually authenticate it.
- 5:20Speaker 1: There's a couple of phrases in there, one where he says,
- 5:25Speaker 1: watch me, what do you want me to do? Burst
- 5:27Speaker 1: out crying? That phrase burst out crying. If you check
- 5:31Speaker 1: the Epstein files, he has used that phrase a few times.
- 5:36Speaker 1: So that's pretty interesting. He said. The note actually says,
- 5:40Speaker 1: so they investigated for a month found nothing, so sixteen
- 5:45Speaker 1: year old charge results. It's a treat to be able
- 5:48Speaker 1: to choose one time one's time to say goodbye, and
- 5:52Speaker 1: then he says time to say goodbye. What you want
- 5:56Speaker 1: me to do? Burst out crying, no fun, not worth it.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So this is authentic, it would indicate suicide. Epstein was
- 6:05Speaker 1: working on his legal case while he was in prison,
- 6:07Speaker 1: and the lawyers would come meet with him every day,
- 6:09Speaker 1: and they had met with him the day before and
- 6:11Speaker 1: they said he didn't seem like a guy about to
- 6:14Speaker 1: commit suicide. So if this turns out to be authentic,
- 6:17Speaker 1: then that it could be pretty much a proof that
- 6:21Speaker 1: it was suicide. But we'll see if they can authenticate it.
- 6:25Speaker 1: There's Epstein hearings going on and they brought in Howard
- 6:28Speaker 1: Lutnik to testify. Now, Howard Lutnik had no relationship at
- 6:32Speaker 1: all with Jeffrey Epstein. He bought a big townhouse in Manhattan.
- 6:36Speaker 1: It turned out the guy next door, the neighbor next door,
- 6:39Speaker 1: was Jeffrey Epstein. That's how they met once or twice.
- 6:42Speaker 1: One time since they were next door neighbors. Epstein said,
- 6:47Speaker 1: let me give you a tour of my house, and
- 6:48Speaker 1: they led him through the house, and they thought it
- 6:50Speaker 1: was kind of tacky and creepy and they didn't really
- 6:52Speaker 1: want to hang around the guy. And then luck Thick
- 6:57Speaker 1: had made a statement somewhere, but I decided never to
- 7:00Speaker 1: be in the same room with him again. Well, there's
- 7:03Speaker 1: a slight catch there. It turns out that he did.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He did go to Epstein Island once. It's not what
- 7:09Speaker 1: you think it was. Somehow Epstein found out Lutnick would
- 7:14Speaker 1: be on his boat with a whole bunch of people
- 7:17Speaker 1: sailing around right near the island in the Caribbean. In
- 7:21Speaker 1: fact that Lutnik said it was a little creepy. He
- 7:23Speaker 1: still doesn't know how Epstein found out his schedule, knew
- 7:26Speaker 1: where he'd be. But when he knew that, he kept
- 7:28Speaker 1: bombarding Lutnick. Stopped by the island, have lunch, Come by
- 7:31Speaker 1: the island. So Lutnick wrote back, and he said, I'm
- 7:34Speaker 1: with my wife, my kids, we have nannies with another couple.
- 7:38Speaker 1: They've got kids, They've got nannies. It's like twelve of us.
- 7:41Speaker 1: And Epstein said, come anyway, come in. He so they
- 7:43Speaker 1: did stop. The boat was going right by the island.
- 7:45Speaker 1: They stopped, they went and they had lunch for about
- 7:49Speaker 1: an hour. So Lutnick did go on the island, but
- 7:52Speaker 1: with like twelve people, his wife and kids and this
- 7:55Speaker 1: other family, and that was it. That was his only
- 7:58Speaker 1: real ever in so engagement ever with Epstein. And then
- 8:03Speaker 1: after that never spoke to him again. So he had
- 8:05Speaker 1: to testify yesterday. Naturally, Democrats beat him up, accused him
- 8:08Speaker 1: of lying, accused him of all kinds of stuff. Committee
- 8:11Speaker 1: Chairman Comer after the testimony, the only thing.
- 8:14Speaker 5: That I'd seen that Lutnick did wrong wasn't truthful on
- 8:19Speaker 5: the brief visit to the island with his family. He
- 8:22Speaker 5: corrected that in his opening statement, and you know, we'll see.
- 8:26Speaker 5: We'll continue our investigation and if we find that there
- 8:29Speaker 5: were any misstatements my Lutnik, it's a felon, need a
- 8:33Speaker 5: lot of Congress, and he'll be held accountable.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Yeah, well it doesn't sound like it's going to be.
- 8:37Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. And if you look through the
- 8:40Speaker 1: Epstein files, there's really nothing about Lutnik in there except
- 8:43Speaker 1: just what we've told you, So that should be it.
- 8:45Speaker 1: They're going to get Pam Bondi to come in and
- 8:48Speaker 1: testify with Lutnik. As a transcript of it. No video.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Democrats are pushing for transcript and video of Pam Bondi
- 8:57Speaker 1: when she testifies, but it's nothing's gonna happen there. So
- 9:03Speaker 1: it's just they just keep this Epstein thing going. They
- 9:06Speaker 1: just praying somehow it hurts Trump. It only helps Trump.
- 9:09Speaker 1: If you read the Epstein files, it's clear that he
- 9:12Speaker 1: hated Trump. They had briefly known each other million years ago,
- 9:15Speaker 1: and then Trump decided he was a disgusting guy and
- 9:18Speaker 1: cut him off, and then for the rest of his life.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Epstein's bad mouthing Trump, plotting against Trump, especially with that
- 9:24Speaker 1: writer Michael Wolf trying to bring down Trump. So if
- 9:29Speaker 1: that's the connection, that really doesn't hurt Trump in anyway. Hey,
- 9:33Speaker 1: crazy Mom Donnie. Besides his war on the billionaires, there's
- 9:38Speaker 1: all kinds of I mean, this guy's going to be
- 9:40Speaker 1: a lot of trouble every second, everywhere, every day. Now,
- 9:44Speaker 1: there's this NYPD captain at an event who is caught
- 9:50Speaker 1: on viral video it went everywhere bashing Mom Donnie. But
- 9:53Speaker 1: he's in uniform and he's on the scene at an event,
- 9:59Speaker 1: supervising and he's attacking Mom Donnie like crazy. He's total nonsense.
- 10:04Speaker 1: He's an embarrassment, total nonsense. Not my mayor. He's a
- 10:09Speaker 1: waste of human a waste of the human race. Well,
- 10:13Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just I'm
- 10:17Speaker 1: just saying you can't say that on the job when
- 10:20Speaker 1: you're on duty in front of a lot of people,
- 10:24Speaker 1: and there were a lot of people. That's how it
- 10:25Speaker 1: ended up on video going viral. So he's been removed.
- 10:30Speaker 1: He was shipped away from the ninety fourth Precinct where
- 10:32Speaker 1: he was the captain, sent to the nine to one
- 10:35Speaker 1: to one call center in the Bronx, which is probably
- 10:39Speaker 1: not the dream job of anybody in the NYPD. But
- 10:44Speaker 1: a lot of people are attacking mom Donnie for it.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Although a lot of people I've talked to in the NYPD,
- 10:48Speaker 1: good solid, responsible people, they do say, I mean, the
- 10:52Speaker 1: captain was wrong. You can think that stuff, you can
- 10:55Speaker 1: say that stuff all day and night, but when you're
- 10:56Speaker 1: in the job, on uniform, out in public, you can't
- 11:00Speaker 1: say the stuff. So within the department there's not a
- 11:02Speaker 1: lot of defense for him. Now the reassignment will be
- 11:06Speaker 1: till the investigation is complete. The investigation they say can
- 11:09Speaker 1: take a year. What on earth could take a year? Well,
- 11:16Speaker 1: I could see if that was that Albuquerque Police department
- 11:18Speaker 1: who screwed up the Nancy Guthrie mother investigation. But what
- 11:23Speaker 1: could take a year, So we'll see what happens there.
- 11:26Speaker 1: The other thing with Mom Donnie is a horrible thing
- 11:28Speaker 1: Parky Synagogue, Park East Synagogue one hundred. They like to
- 11:34Speaker 1: think they're protesters, but they were violent thugs with those
- 11:37Speaker 1: things tied around their head, those things, the scarfs tied
- 11:42Speaker 1: around their faces. These are violent protesters. They battled with
- 11:46Speaker 1: the NYPD for hours. Mom Donnie should be denouncing them
- 11:50Speaker 1: like crazy. He's not. They claimed to be protesting a
- 11:54Speaker 1: meeting that was about the sale of the West Bank
- 11:58Speaker 1: land to Jews. First of all, that's not even true,
- 12:01Speaker 1: None of this is true. And then Mom Donnie kind
- 12:07Speaker 1: of let them know he's on their side. The police
- 12:09Speaker 1: did not do enough to stop them. They should have
- 12:11Speaker 1: been stopped immediately, shut down immediately. Mam Donnie did not
- 12:14Speaker 1: do that. The great NYPD did as much as they
- 12:18Speaker 1: could to contain it, but they should have been arrested,
- 12:21Speaker 1: taken away. Mom Donnie still defending him. He made some
- 12:24Speaker 1: crazy statement about that sale of the West Bank that's
- 12:29Speaker 1: not even true. But then he said it's illegal under
- 12:33Speaker 1: international law. There's no such thing as international law. Dem
- 12:38Speaker 1: becus loved to use that phrase. They used it with
- 12:39Speaker 1: their ran the violation of international law. There is no
- 12:42Speaker 1: actual international law anywhere. There's no such thing. So the
- 12:47Speaker 1: anti Semitic side of mom Donnie coming out here and
- 12:50Speaker 1: looking really, really bad, he should be warning these thugs.
- 12:55Speaker 1: You know, Bruce Blakeman had the same problem, and they
- 12:59Speaker 1: believe it was the same group. They tried the same
- 13:02Speaker 1: thing out in Nassau County. Bruce Blakeman had the cops
- 13:05Speaker 1: stopped them immediately, whole thing over in fifteen minutes, just
- 13:10Speaker 1: shut him down in fifteen minutes and that was the
- 13:12Speaker 1: end of it. Hey, Mayor Giuliani doing much better. He
- 13:16Speaker 1: was in ICU intensive care. He's out of the ICU,
- 13:21Speaker 1: no more intensive care. He's in a regular hospital room
- 13:24Speaker 1: and they expect that he'll be able to go home
- 13:27Speaker 1: in a couple of days. That's great news. And we'll
- 13:30Speaker 1: get to Ted Turner throughout the show. Ted Turner, who
- 13:34Speaker 1: gave us a CNN.
- 13:36Speaker 6: I worked till seven o'clock. When I got home, the
- 13:39Speaker 6: news was over, so I missed television news completely and
- 13:43Speaker 6: I figured there were lots of people like me.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. You know. Back then, the
- 13:51Speaker 1: only television news was at six thirty, the nightly news
- 13:55Speaker 1: six thirty to seven, and if he got home at seven,
- 13:58Speaker 1: that's it. There was no television news. You could see
- 14:01Speaker 1: the local news at eleven o'clock, but that was about it.
- 14:04Speaker 1: And well he turned out to be right. They thought
- 14:07Speaker 1: he was crazy twenty four hour news, but it worked. Well.
- 14:11Speaker 1: We'll get into it in the next hour. We got
- 14:13Speaker 1: a lot to get to. We'll take some calls next.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is the number.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten give WR,
- 14:26Speaker 1: a Briest said on the iHeartRadio app to hear Mark
- 14:29Speaker 1: Simone and all the WR hosts in an instance, go back.
- 14:34Speaker 2: To the Mark Simo show on wor.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Hey, let's take some calls. Eight hundred three to two
- 14:43Speaker 1: one zero seven ten is the number. Let's go to
- 14:45Speaker 1: Dave in Chicago. Dave, how you doing.
- 14:48Speaker 7: Good morning, Mark. I'm doing very well.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Mark.
- 14:51Speaker 7: I read a report that in the recent past, Governor
- 14:54Speaker 7: Kathy Hochel vdo to bill which would have restricted Mayor
- 14:58Speaker 7: Mondamie's powers. I have two questions, if you please. The
- 15:03Speaker 7: first is didn't Mondami meet with President Trump and the
- 15:08Speaker 7: Oval Office? And secondly, our very good friend Vincent and
- 15:12Speaker 7: Brooklyn watches a lot of Italian TV. I'm wondering if
- 15:16Speaker 7: they're covering this.
- 15:18Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I don't think it goes that far,
- 15:20Speaker 1: but it has become a national story, Mom, Donnie, And
- 15:26Speaker 1: as far as Kathy Hokle, you gotta remember, Democrats have
- 15:29Speaker 1: controlled everything in New York for twelve years, almost thirteen years. Everything.
- 15:35Speaker 1: The governor is a Democrat, the Mayor's been a Democrat,
- 15:37Speaker 1: the whole city council Democrats, the state legislature, both houses Democrats.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Democrats have had full control for almost thirteen years. So
- 15:49Speaker 1: when they say this an affordability crisis, whose fault is that, Well,
- 15:53Speaker 1: they're the ones that have been running everything. So in
- 15:55Speaker 1: the campaign based on affordability crisis and this is wrong
- 15:58Speaker 1: and there's no housing well there to blame. They've been
- 16:02Speaker 1: totally in charge of every inter government for thirteen years.
- 16:06Speaker 1: And if all that stuff is wrong, well that's the
- 16:09Speaker 1: result of them. Hard to believe, but if you go
- 16:11Speaker 1: back a whole bunch of years before those thirteen years,
- 16:15Speaker 1: you know you had George Pataki, you had Rudy Giuliani,
- 16:20Speaker 1: you had Mike Bloomberg, you had Republicans in the state
- 16:23Speaker 1: legislature controlled one house, you had a lot of Republicans
- 16:27Speaker 1: in the city council. It's a whole different world, and
- 16:30Speaker 1: it was a lot better in New York back then.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Let's go to Gina in Staten Island. Gina, how you doing.
- 16:37Speaker 8: Oh Hi, I'm doing great. I love your show. I'm
- 16:41Speaker 8: calling because I was in Brooklyn the other day and
- 16:43Speaker 8: I saw a very disturbing sign hanging out of a window.
- 16:46Speaker 8: It said ready eighty six forty seven. So I said,
- 16:50Speaker 8: I can't believe this, So I pulled over, I took
- 16:53Speaker 8: a picture. I called the police and told them. I said,
- 16:56Speaker 8: it's on an emergency, but I'm very upset about the science.
- 16:59Speaker 8: And they said, well, we don't know what that means.
- 17:02Speaker 8: And I said, you're kidding. You don't know what that means.
- 17:04Speaker 8: They said, oh, call three one one.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just that has you know, there's all
- 17:09Speaker 1: kinds of things online where you can buy eighty six
- 17:11Speaker 1: forty seven T shirts that's been going on for years.
- 17:14Speaker 1: You can buy them on Amazon. There's eighty six forty
- 17:16Speaker 1: seven merchandise. Yeah, it's terrible.
- 17:21Speaker 2: It's all horrible.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know how you feel. It's just terrible.
- 17:25Speaker 1: But that's Democrats, that's the way they do things. Let's
- 17:29Speaker 1: go to Rob in Franklin Square. Rob, how you doing.
- 17:32Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning, Mark. Ye I'm gonna retire transit cop
- 17:34Speaker 9: and I've been following the Epstein things since twenty nineteen.
- 17:38Speaker 9: Now to Taglia, the role cop, he was the one
- 17:41Speaker 9: that informed to the corrections that Epstein made a you know,
- 17:46Speaker 9: verbal remarks that he was going to commit suicide and
- 17:48Speaker 9: then he was transferred to the psych ward for thirty days. Now,
- 17:52Speaker 9: when when Epstein came back, Tech Tagli was out of
- 17:55Speaker 9: the picture, he was transferred to another He wasn't in
- 17:59Speaker 9: the cell anymore.
- 18:00Speaker 1: So I was still in the prison and it was
- 18:02Speaker 1: a very corrupt prison. Guards from that prison have actually
- 18:05Speaker 1: gone to jail for corruption.
- 18:07Speaker 9: But he gave he gave the note when he found
- 18:09Speaker 9: a note, he gave it to the lawyers in twenty
- 18:11Speaker 9: nineteen and they held it to twenty twenty one. So
- 18:13Speaker 9: he wouldn't there's no way that he would have been
- 18:15Speaker 9: the guy that would you know, But.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know, but If we're to believe him
- 18:23Speaker 1: and his lawyers that they had this note, why didn't
- 18:27Speaker 1: they release it immediately? That would have gotten all the
- 18:30Speaker 1: to Taglia off the hook. He was a suspect for
- 18:33Speaker 1: so long. Let's go to uh, Joe and Gardner, New York.
- 18:37Speaker 9: Joe, how you doing good yourself?
- 18:40Speaker 1: Let me check? Not bad? Not bad?
- 18:43Speaker 9: That's good, that's good.
- 18:45Speaker 2: He So, international lawyer, what's with the Hague? Is it?
- 18:50Speaker 4: This?
- 18:51Speaker 2: Like?
- 18:51Speaker 9: Who's going to enforce it?
- 18:52Speaker 1: If there is no such thing as international law, it
- 18:56Speaker 1: doesn't exist. I mean, you could say there's court cases
- 18:58Speaker 1: and rulings around the world world, and each country has
- 19:01Speaker 1: their laws. There's no such thing as international law.
- 19:04Speaker 9: Is that where Jack Smith was working at the Hague?
- 19:07Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 19:07Speaker 1: The Hague is some sort of court where a country,
- 19:09Speaker 1: if they want, can take somebody to court. They really
- 19:11Speaker 1: don't have a lot of authority over anything now. Uh,
- 19:15Speaker 1: and again, there's no such thing as international law. You
- 19:18Speaker 1: only hear about it when democrats need to claim something.
- 19:23Speaker 1: You know, when Trump the Maduro raid, they'll tell it's
- 19:27Speaker 1: against international law. Well there is no Okay, take him
- 19:30Speaker 1: to the international law court, charge him with the international law.
- 19:34Speaker 1: You think there is actually such a thing doesn't actually exist.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Let's go to Joe and Staten Island. Joe, how you doing?
- 19:42Speaker 2: How you doing? First? Well, I got a question about
- 19:46Speaker 2: a story I heard about Sinatra. Yes, there was his mother,
- 19:52Speaker 2: Sinatra's mother's birthday party, and he the mother asked Sinatra
- 19:57Speaker 2: to Jimmy Roselle.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the not true for as far as I
- 20:01Speaker 1: know that, no truth to that story.
- 20:04Speaker 2: And the story I heard was that said yes, but
- 20:07Speaker 2: he wanted to.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Get paid for it, right or he refused or something,
- 20:10Speaker 1: and he always said that's the reason he was banned
- 20:12Speaker 1: from w W. No truth to that. No, it wasn't true. Truth.
- 20:17Speaker 1: It's a great myth and a great story. It didn't
- 20:21Speaker 1: make any sense because back in the early sixties, if
- 20:24Speaker 1: Sinatra and his mother wanted to put together an incredible gala,
- 20:27Speaker 1: they had the biggest stars in the world. What the
- 20:28Speaker 1: hell would they want Jimmy Rosselli, for nobody knew him
- 20:31Speaker 1: outside of New York City, So it didn't it didn't
- 20:33Speaker 1: make any sense. But it was a great It was
- 20:36Speaker 1: a great gimmick. You know, if you ever have a
- 20:39Speaker 1: just tell somebody your band and that's why they won't
- 20:41Speaker 1: play you on this radio station. That's why you can't
- 20:43Speaker 1: work Las Vegas. It sounds great. It's better than saying, hey,
- 20:48Speaker 1: they wouldn't have played my records anyway. I'm not big
- 20:52Speaker 1: enough to get booked in Las Vegas anyway. Hey, speaking
- 20:54Speaker 1: of Las Vegas, the Eagles, you know they're doing their
- 20:57Speaker 1: residency there. They've extended. Did this is the big thing now,
- 21:02Speaker 1: the residency of the Eagles. But they've extended. They put
- 21:05Speaker 1: in like ten more dates, and they're also implying saying
- 21:09Speaker 1: that you'd better come see us now because this is it.
- 21:11Speaker 1: That they will never tour again. Obviously they're a huge, huge,
- 21:15Speaker 1: huge concert act, and it is possible this could be
- 21:19Speaker 1: the end. But you know, people do that. That's another
- 21:22Speaker 1: great myth, like the Barber streisand retirement tour sold out immediately,
- 21:27Speaker 1: last chance to see her, but then it turned out
- 21:29Speaker 1: there were like eight more retirement tours after they got
- 21:32Speaker 1: so many hits, they sold so many albums. But the
- 21:36Speaker 1: residency will be extended. Whenever I hear Farewell tour, it
- 21:40Speaker 1: means they'll be back for years to come. So don't
- 21:42Speaker 1: worry about it. Hey, coming up, we'll talk to Steve more.
- 21:46Speaker 1: We hope the brilliant economist. Steve Moore lots to talk
- 21:50Speaker 1: to him about, and we'll get to Ted Turner and
- 21:53Speaker 1: a whole lot more just ahead on seven to ten
- 21:56Speaker 1: Worter in New York. Here's more Mark them own on
- 22:00Speaker 1: seven ten Woor. Well, Steve Morley, brilliant economist, and you should.
- 22:08Speaker 1: You should get his book, The Trump Economic Miracle. It's excellent.
- 22:11Speaker 1: You'll learn a lot from it, The Trump Economic Miracle. Also,
- 22:14Speaker 1: he runs the Committee to Unleashed Prosperity. They put out
- 22:17Speaker 1: the best daily news analysis briefing. It's free, it'll come
- 22:21Speaker 1: write to your email. Go sign up at Unleash Prosperity
- 22:25Speaker 1: dot com. Steve Moore, how you doing.
- 22:28Speaker 2: Hey, Mark, I'm doing really well. And there was something
- 22:31Speaker 2: I wanted to tell you, if I may, that my
- 22:34Speaker 2: good friend jeffy Ass was at the Manhattan It's Too
- 22:37Speaker 2: Big dinner last night. I don't know were you there
- 22:39Speaker 2: by any No?
- 22:40Speaker 3: No?
- 22:41Speaker 2: Oh, well, Jeff is you know a great philanthropist. He
- 22:45Speaker 2: cares a lot about kids and education. And I just
- 22:47Speaker 2: wanted to give you this one statistic if I may,
- 22:50Speaker 2: for your listeners, because you're in the New York area obviously,
- 22:54Speaker 2: so New York spends thirty seven billion billion dollars on
- 23:00Speaker 2: K through twelve education. Okay, yeah, thirty seven billion. There
- 23:04Speaker 2: are eight hundred and fifty thousand students, so that comes
- 23:07Speaker 2: out to almost forty four thousand dollars per students. And
- 23:11Speaker 2: yet you have the worst performing schools in the country.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Yeah, and the worst results about that. Students come out
- 23:17Speaker 1: of there, can't pass a basic test for it.
- 23:19Speaker 2: How do you, I guess the question mark, how do
- 23:21Speaker 2: you waste that much money?
- 23:23Speaker 1: Well, that's everything, that's every inch of government.
- 23:26Speaker 2: So yeah, and by the way, you could so in
- 23:28Speaker 2: the Catholic schools for far less than half that class.
- 23:32Speaker 2: You could educate every kid in the New York system
- 23:36Speaker 2: and they would get a much better education. There's something
- 23:39Speaker 2: wrong there.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember talking to Cardinal O'Connor once about that,
- 23:43Speaker 1: because the Catholic schools are great. I said, how would
- 23:45Speaker 1: you fix the New York City? He said, cut the
- 23:47Speaker 1: budget in half, get rid of all that lads.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, here's the thing. The Catholic school
- 23:54Speaker 2: system has almost no bureaucracy. You know, maybe a few hundred,
- 23:59Speaker 2: they have thousands and thousands, and those people there's bureaucrats
- 24:03Speaker 2: have and the teacher in union officials they were been
- 24:07Speaker 2: inside a classroom.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember you said, there's layers and layers and layers.
- 24:11Speaker 1: If you throw a dollar in, by the time it
- 24:13Speaker 1: gets to the classroom, it's about thirty cents.
- 24:15Speaker 2: So exactly. So there's where all your money goes. Folks,
- 24:19Speaker 2: if you care about kids, you know, we always tell
- 24:21Speaker 2: it's for the children. Okay, maybe it's for the children
- 24:23Speaker 2: that we don't waste forty three thousand dollars per kid,
- 24:25Speaker 2: really really a shame.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's everything in the government. You know, when
- 24:29Speaker 1: the city puts out their budget one hundred billion, it's ridiculous.
- 24:32Speaker 1: It should be one third of that. Every supermarket will
- 24:35Speaker 1: tell you it's three billion at the most to open
- 24:37Speaker 1: a grocery store. He's spending thirty million on a little
- 24:40Speaker 1: junkie grocery store.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Where's where's Yeah, they probably don't have the stuff on
- 24:47Speaker 2: themselves you want, and probably have to wait and line.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:49Speaker 2: And by the way, I guarantee you mark, I mean
- 24:51Speaker 2: mark my words, you know, three years through or four
- 24:54Speaker 2: years from now, when we're hopefully still doing the show together,
- 24:58Speaker 2: you know, and I'll oh, you know, those those government
- 25:01Speaker 2: run back grocery stores. They went back left throughout the business.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Well, actually, if I may predict, I don't think you'll
- 25:09Speaker 1: ever see a government run grocery store in New York business. No,
- 25:13Speaker 1: he'll never get it.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Yeah, well they've already spent millions of dollars something. But
- 25:21Speaker 2: it's it is, it's it's ironic. This is what the
- 25:23Speaker 2: Soviet Union did. They had the government run the grocery store.
- 25:26Speaker 2: And by the way, it was a great deal. I mean,
- 25:28Speaker 2: the scood was really cheap. Of course you had to
- 25:29Speaker 2: wait an hour to get in, and there was no
- 25:31Speaker 2: food on the shelves, but there was really cheap.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you a question. Is the great
- 25:35Speaker 1: economist there's a science to running an economy. It's an
- 25:39Speaker 1: actual science. You know what works? You know it doesn't work.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Democrats don't believe in following the science. They never follow
- 25:45Speaker 1: the science, like exactly socialism. We've tried that experiment. We've
- 25:49Speaker 1: run it one hundred thousand times. It fails every time.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Will they ever change? Will they ever learn?
- 25:56Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a heartbreaking, isn't it. You know,
- 25:58Speaker 2: I think I've told you the story or but you know,
- 26:01Speaker 2: I was friends with Milton Friedman, one of the greatest
- 26:04Speaker 2: economists in Adam Smith and towards the end of his
- 26:08Speaker 2: life and I remember Elementic a few years before he
- 26:10Speaker 2: died at the age of I think ninety two, he said,
- 26:13Speaker 2: you know that he was sad. He said, Look, if
- 26:15Speaker 2: you look back on the twentieth century, what is there
- 26:17Speaker 2: of the central lesson of the twentieth century. It's that,
- 26:20Speaker 2: you know, out of control government leads to poverty, it
- 26:25Speaker 2: leads to people being murdered. You know how many people
- 26:28Speaker 2: were murdered by the hands of guggish governments, whether it's
- 26:31Speaker 2: the Nazis or the Soviet government. And yet he said,
- 26:35Speaker 2: you know, said a lesson here is free markets work
- 26:38Speaker 2: and socialism doesn't. He said, But what they're teaching in
- 26:41Speaker 2: school is that socialism merchants three markets don't work.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Yeah, as we said before, Democrats have had control of
- 26:48Speaker 1: every inch of New York state government, city government for
- 26:50Speaker 1: thirteen years. So if there's an affordability crisis, guess who
- 26:55Speaker 1: caused it. I mean, it's them.
- 26:57Speaker 2: So you know, there's a great little story if I
- 26:59Speaker 2: may about Chicago. And as you know, I'm I'm a
- 27:03Speaker 2: Chicago native and I love Chicago, but I don't like
- 27:05Speaker 2: what's happened to the city. And so I don't know
- 27:08Speaker 2: if you've been bolling the story, but Walmart has closed,
- 27:11Speaker 2: and that Walmart wal Reads has closed about i'll six
- 27:15Speaker 2: to ten the twelve of the stores in Chicago, and
- 27:19Speaker 2: so they just announced another closing and the left is
- 27:23Speaker 2: going absolutely nuts. Oh my god, Well I think it's
- 27:27Speaker 2: what I's either Walmart runters, you're how dare you shut
- 27:30Speaker 2: down these these stores? They're going to become food deserts.
- 27:33Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard this song, that they're
- 27:35Speaker 2: going to be food deserts and nobody's going to im
- 27:37Speaker 2: poor people are going to get food. And the Walmart
- 27:39Speaker 2: people said, well, wait a minute, we've told you for
- 27:41Speaker 2: the last six or seven years, we can't keep our
- 27:43Speaker 2: stores open if you don't get rid of the crime,
- 27:46Speaker 2: because people literally we're going into the toores and just
- 27:48Speaker 2: stealing things off the shelf. And then mayor said, well,
- 27:51Speaker 2: we're not even going to prosecute these crimes. So they've
- 27:53Speaker 2: been losing all this money and now they're shutting down
- 27:56Speaker 2: and what hypocrisy. Now they're saying, how dare you shut
- 27:58Speaker 2: down your stores?
- 28:01Speaker 1: And that happened in San Francisco. Again, they don't learn
- 28:03Speaker 1: from the science.
- 28:05Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. So I guess they're gonna have to have
- 28:08Speaker 2: government run at grocery stores in Chicago now too. We
- 28:10Speaker 2: have a workout.
- 28:12Speaker 1: So this has caused a massive exodus, right, what's the
- 28:15Speaker 1: difference now Red states versus Blue states?
- 28:18Speaker 2: So we have something in our hotline today and you
- 28:20Speaker 2: mentioned this, or go to hotline. Just go to UNLEASEPUS
- 28:23Speaker 2: thirty dot comment sign up for free folks, and we'll
- 28:24Speaker 2: get that for you every morning. But in the last
- 28:27Speaker 2: ten eleven years, from twenty twenty twelve to twenty twenty three,
- 28:31Speaker 2: that's the last data we have from the IRS, the
- 28:35Speaker 2: Red states have taken. Ready for that, he's sitting down
- 28:37Speaker 2: mound two trillion dollars out of blue state that is
- 28:42Speaker 2: now that income is now a red state. Mouch. I
- 28:45Speaker 2: will give you a dollar if you can get this
- 28:46Speaker 2: question right. Guess which state has lost the most money?
- 28:51Speaker 1: California.
- 28:52Speaker 2: No, you got that run. You don't get that dollar.
- 28:55Speaker 2: I'll guess again.
- 28:56Speaker 1: New York.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Yes, California was second worst. It's a context between New
- 29:01Speaker 2: York and California to see which can be the most
- 29:04Speaker 2: misrun state. In the country.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Wow, so these billionaires. First he goes after Ken Griffin,
- 29:09Speaker 1: and now Steve Roth and other billionaires are joining in
- 29:12Speaker 1: standing up to this crazy mom. Donnie and Steve Roth said,
- 29:16Speaker 1: the way he talks about the billionaires, the terms he uses,
- 29:20Speaker 1: the attitude, it's almost like racial slurs. It's the same.
- 29:23Speaker 1: It's very similar.
- 29:24Speaker 2: He's right, isn't he You know, it's it's it's it's
- 29:28Speaker 2: even more than that. It's you know, if you ever
- 29:30Speaker 2: watch the Batman movies, you know, Got Them City, the
- 29:33Speaker 2: theme is always hell that the villain, you know, the Joker,
- 29:36Speaker 2: is going to go up to those crazy rich people.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Very tell you know, if someone I watched that Mondonnie interview,
- 29:42Speaker 2: you know, the one he's pointing right in the camera.
- 29:44Speaker 2: He's got a space instrument. And if you look at
- 29:46Speaker 2: that and then you look at the Batman movie with
- 29:48Speaker 2: the Joker doing the same thing in a maniacal laugh,
- 29:52Speaker 2: it almost looked like the two are interchangeable.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Oh that's brilliant. Hey, somebody out there cut that together
- 29:57Speaker 1: and put put that online.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Yeah somebody, Well we did that that line a couple
- 30:01Speaker 2: of weeks ago. But it's amazing. No, really, seriously, folks.
- 30:04Speaker 2: I can remember that Amo scene. I think that Heath
- 30:07Speaker 2: Leasurer was playing the joker he wanted. I think he
- 30:09Speaker 2: won the asker uh, and he was great and he
- 30:12Speaker 2: was like, ah, you know, like this maniaco grin and
- 30:15Speaker 2: see I got to destroy the city. And that's exactly
- 30:17Speaker 2: what Monomi was doing. And you could just interchange the tip.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Hey Steve Moore, Uh, you know years ago you couldn't
- 30:24Speaker 1: build a nuclear plant. The community would be up in arms.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Nobody wanted a nuclear plant. It's the same thing now
- 30:29Speaker 1: with a data center. Why does no community had wanted
- 30:32Speaker 1: data center in their area?
- 30:35Speaker 2: So you're right, this is an amazing uh political it's
- 30:39Speaker 2: a left hand right, it's on the left hand the right.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Communities are rising up against these data centers. And you
- 30:45Speaker 2: know when I ask people, you know why why uh oh,
- 30:48Speaker 2: you know these are you're gonna get cancer from data
- 30:51Speaker 2: centers that are going to get you know, we're transmission
- 30:53Speaker 2: lines and so on. Well, I live outside Loudon County
- 30:56Speaker 2: in Virginia, which has the largest data center country. Maybe
- 31:00Speaker 2: that's the world. It pays about half of the taxes,
- 31:04Speaker 2: and that the county taxes have gone down, down, down
- 31:07Speaker 2: on home arts because the data centers stay so much.
- 31:09Speaker 2: It's a major source of jobs. I don't know. I
- 31:12Speaker 2: have to say I don't get this because then I
- 31:14Speaker 2: asked people, Oh, you don't want the data center. I said,
- 31:17Speaker 2: do you like your cell phone? Oh yeah, I love
- 31:19Speaker 2: my doubt you know your self, well doesn't work without
- 31:22Speaker 2: data centers, you know, So we have to educate people
- 31:25Speaker 2: about you know, why do you say you're right? They're
- 31:27Speaker 2: almost like nuclear power plats. Nobody wants them when they're
- 31:30Speaker 2: actually you've got thousands of construction jobs, You've got all
- 31:34Speaker 2: sorts of tax revenors or economic development for these counties.
- 31:37Speaker 2: And my attitude is, look, if these counties don't want them,
- 31:40Speaker 2: these these tech firms should go to other counties and say, look,
- 31:43Speaker 2: we're offering you ten thousand jobs. We're going to pay
- 31:46Speaker 2: your taxes, We're going to do all these things for
- 31:48Speaker 2: your community. We'll pay for your schools, we'll pay for
- 31:51Speaker 2: your fire department and your police services. And that's the
- 31:55Speaker 2: story of Out County. Property tasks to keep going down, down,
- 31:58Speaker 2: down down in Mount County because they're data centers pay
- 32:02Speaker 2: so much.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Yeah, but what about the argument the data center AI
- 32:05Speaker 1: all that stuff uses thousands of times more electricity. Uh
- 32:08Speaker 1: and the drains the electricity out of the community.
- 32:11Speaker 2: They do, they do use a lot of electricity. But
- 32:13Speaker 2: even the electric rate charges in these You know, there's
- 32:17Speaker 2: a good study by the Intent Energy Research showing that
- 32:20Speaker 2: there's no difference between the rates charged by home owners
- 32:23Speaker 2: in areas that they have data centers that don't. I mean,
- 32:26Speaker 2: the data centers pay a lot in electricity costs. They
- 32:30Speaker 2: pay a lot in uh in uh as I said,
- 32:32Speaker 2: in property taxes. So I don't quite get this. You know,
- 32:35Speaker 2: these poor communities say we don't have enough jobs and
- 32:37Speaker 2: then say we don't want data centers. I bet Look,
- 32:39Speaker 2: if if these communities don't want them, they shouldn't put
- 32:42Speaker 2: them there. I mean, I'm a populist. If the voters
- 32:43Speaker 2: don't want them, they should put them somewhere else. Maybe,
- 32:46Speaker 2: you know, maybe we're gonna have to put them out
- 32:47Speaker 2: in the in the in the orbit and satellite down
- 32:49Speaker 2: the information, or put them in the middle of the desert.
- 32:51Speaker 2: I don't know, but we need data centers, folks, because
- 32:54Speaker 2: you're you're gonna say it again, your cell phone will
- 32:57Speaker 2: not work if we don't have data centers.
- 32:59Speaker 1: You have again, they use so much electricity. Do we
- 33:02Speaker 1: have enough electricity? Can we produce enough to keep these
- 33:04Speaker 1: things going?
- 33:05Speaker 2: We do? We do. We have to. We have to
- 33:07Speaker 2: use our power, I mean we have to use our
- 33:09Speaker 2: nuclear power. We have to use our natural gas, we
- 33:12Speaker 2: have to use our oil, we have to use coal
- 33:14Speaker 2: everything we've got. But that will be a big you know,
- 33:17Speaker 2: Thank God. By the way, if Joe Biden will present day,
- 33:20Speaker 2: by the way, which there's no oil and gas and coal,
- 33:23Speaker 2: we'd be paying eight dollars a gallon for gas today.
- 33:26Speaker 1: Yeah, he had us at four million barrels a day.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Trump now has us doing fourteen million barrels a day.
- 33:32Speaker 2: Amazing. It's one of the great economic achievements of our country.
- 33:35Speaker 2: We'd the number one produce of oil gas today in
- 33:37Speaker 2: the world. Wow.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Well, Steve Moore, great stuff as always, And everybody gets
- 33:41Speaker 1: Steve Moore's book, The Trump Economic Miracle, and keep doing
- 33:45Speaker 1: that hotline. It's the best daily news briefing analysis right.
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- 33:53Speaker 1: Go to Unleashed Prosperity dot com. Unleash Prosperity dot com.
- 33:58Speaker 1: Steve Moore, thanks for being new.
- 33:59Speaker 2: This Oh hey, kevil grat weekend, Take care all right.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Take care Hey? At noon today Buck and Clay, they
- 34:06Speaker 1: do an excellent show every day noon to three. Then
- 34:10Speaker 1: at three o'clock you got the most listened to radio
- 34:13Speaker 1: show in America, Sean Hannity infect Sean's I think he's
- 34:16Speaker 1: going to travel with the President to China the next week.
- 34:21Speaker 1: He'll be on that trip. And then you got Jesse
- 34:23Speaker 1: Kelly at six o'clock. Every night at nine, it's the great,
- 34:27Speaker 1: very funny Jimmy Fayla every night at nine, and he'll
- 34:31Speaker 1: be with us here. He'll be our guest here in
- 34:33Speaker 1: the next hour on seven to ten. Wr There so
- 34:38Speaker 1: much data centers, they're like nuclear plants. No community will
- 34:42Speaker 1: allow a data center. You need them to run AI
- 34:44Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Even our friend Kevin O'Leary from
- 34:49Speaker 1: Shark Tank, Kevin O'Leary is trying to open a data
- 34:51Speaker 1: center in Utah. All the residents have gathered together. They
- 34:56Speaker 1: packed a big gymnasium yesterday shouting chance of shame, shame,
- 35:00Speaker 1: shame at O'Leary. County commissioners actually pushed through the approval
- 35:04Speaker 1: of the data center because Steve Moore was just saying
- 35:07Speaker 1: it creates thousands of jobs, it pays the taxes. It's
- 35:10Speaker 1: a great thing. But an AI data center uses a
- 35:13Speaker 1: massive amount of electricity, so that's the argument against him. Oleiria,
- 35:20Speaker 1: this is going to be a huge data center, but
- 35:22Speaker 1: he's furious at fighting these crowds. So it's the new
- 35:27Speaker 1: nuclear plant. Nobody wants these data centers anywhere in the community.
- 35:32Speaker 1: It will actually consume more than twice the electricity currently
- 35:36Speaker 1: used by the entire state of Utah. That's the thing
- 35:40Speaker 1: about AI. It uses a lot of electricity. Hey, we
- 35:43Speaker 1: got another hour to go. Jimmy Fayala will join us
- 35:45Speaker 1: in the next hour.