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15 years ago, we celebrated the killing of bin Laden, but we’re divided on the fall of Iran · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Welcome to another edition or episode of After Dark on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
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  I am glad you could join us tonight.
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  My co-host tonight, of course, is Heather Robinson, the contributor for the New York Post.
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  Heather, how are you tonight?
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  I'm doing all right, Rob.
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  Thank you.
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  How are you?
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  Heather, I'm doing great.
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  We've got a lot to talk about tonight.
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  One of the things that's top of mind that I didn't really realize until I saw it being discussed on one of the news channels is that this is the 15th anniversary of us taking out bin Laden.
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  Osama bin Laden.
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  It's hard to believe that.
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  Barack Obama, yes, Barack Obama, the Democratic president, who, for the most part, in my opinion, has caused so much consternation or disruption, should I say, in today's society.
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  It's just unbelievable.
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  But he did something good 15 years ago.
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  Yep, yep.
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  When he took out Osama bin Laden, and you know what?
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  The United States, we all celebrated, and we thanked him.
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  There wasn't any divisiveness.
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  No one was questioning what he did.
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  Well, I say no one.
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  I've got to say that Joe Biden was against it.
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  Joe Biden said, don't do it.
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  It's too risky.
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  We cannot go in.
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  And this is the same Joe Biden who voted for us to go into Iraq, but he said, don't go get bin Laden.
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  I wonder why.
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  And Robert Gates, the former, I think it was the Secretary of War.
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  What was he was a former United States Secretary of Defense.
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  He has since said that Joe Biden has been wrong on every what was it?
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  Every decision related to foreign affairs during his entire time on the hill.
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  And that's almost like 50 years that he made this comment like almost 40 years ago, 30 years ago.
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  And then it was 30 years.
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  But even now, he says the same thing that Joe Biden has been wrong.
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  And we see that with Joe Biden with Ukraine.
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  Joe Biden with all foreign affairs.
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  He's just been completely a failure.
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  Look at what he did with Iran.
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  He gave Trump came into office, stopped the money spigot to Iran.
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  Biden comes in and gives him more money, and look at what we have today.
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  But I digress.
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  This is the 15th anniversary, 15 years ago.
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  We took out one of the world's worst terrorists on planet Earth.
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  Fast forward some years later, President Trump is on the precipite of taking out a foreign, a radical group in Iran.
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  Unfortunately, Democrats don't like it.
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  They don't want him to take them out.
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  They want they they want Iran to continue doing what they're doing.
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  Albeit for almost four decades, every president has been saying we need to stop Iran.
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  Every presidential candidate was saying we need to stop Iran.
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  But fast forward when we have a president who's actually has the balls, the kahanas, to step up and say, I'm going to take him out.
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  I know that this is doing a midterm uh an election season, but it's time to do it.
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  I've talked about it when I wasn't in politics.
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  Now I have the opportunity to do it.
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  I am going to do it.
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  And what is the response from the left?
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  Oh, don't do it.
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  Leave them alone.
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  They're not a threat.
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  They're not bothering us.
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  Now, mind you, Iran is always in the street saying, Death to America, death to America.
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  Look at all of the terrorist groups that they have funded.
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  Look at what they've done in Israel.
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  Look at what they've done around the world.
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  They've killed and maimed thousands of Americans, Rob, since 1979.
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  And, you know, not just 1979.
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  They and their proxies, our 241 Marines in 1983, all the Jews, American Jewish Americans, and uh American Christians killed by Hamas and other groups backed by Iran at Hebrew University in Jerusalem on the streets of Jerusalem, visiting Israel for decades.
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  I mean, I someone should really tabulate and you know, and and list all the Americans who have been killed by Iran directly and indirectly through its proxies since 1979.
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  Um, that should be my next journalistic endeavor, honestly, because when people say they're not a threat, that is so offensive to me.
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  I mean, it's one thing, you know, if you want to argue that we should just have you know pursue a containment strategy with them instead of trying to completely obliterate that regime.
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  But to say they're not a threat is just to completely deny the theory.
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  They've inflicted on Americans for for since you know 40 some years.
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  I mean, what about all the Americans who've been killed and dismembered and taken hostage in Iran and Israel in on the streets of Jerusalem and you know, I mean, that's just pretending all of our service members who were who were wounded and dismembered and blinded and killed by IEDs.
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  Um all of that was orchestrated by Qasim Suleimani.
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  They called him the the father of the roadside bomb.
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  And I mean, to to just pretend like they're not a threat.
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  I guess what people are trying to say, they're they're being dishonest, but I guess they're trying to say that Iran isn't directly attacking us on the mainland here of America.
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  But they've attacked and killed and maimed Americans, other parts of the world, uh, you know, for for whatever it is, you know, 40 some years.
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  So we know this.
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  So essentially to to deny deny that, I think is really to bury your head in the sand and to play pretend and to dishonor the memories of the Americans who've been killed by the Iranian regime.
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  And Democrats seem to want them to stay in power.
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  But as I said, when Barack Obama did the right thing, he had the opportunity to take out bin Laden, he took it.
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  And we've also got to remember that even when Bill Clinton was in office, he had several opportunities to take out bin Laden and chose not to, thinking that we can rehabilitate him, he'll come back to our side, and it never happened.
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  It never happened.
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  What convinced Barack Obama to do to take the final step to eradicate the world of this vicious man, I will may never know, but he did it.
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  Of this vicious man, I will may never know.
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  But he did it.
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  And the and we the world, not just Americans, but the world got behind him, and they congratulated him.
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  And the and we the world, not just Americans, but the world got behind him and they congratulated him.
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  I remember there were people at the World Trade Center that were cheering.
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  I remember there were people at the World Trade Center that were cheering.
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  They were saying, hooray, hooray, hooray.
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  They were saying, hooray, hooray, hooray.
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  And there was one journalist, I think his name was Howard Feynman.
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  And there was one journalist, I think his name was Howard Feynman.
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  He's dead now.
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  He's dead now.
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  He said that I can't believe that we're doing this.
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  He said that I can't believe that we're doing this.
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  We're Americans.
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  We're Americans.
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  How could we celebrate the death of someone?
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  How could we celebrate the death of someone?
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  It's like he was a terrorist.
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  It's like he was a terrorist.
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  The guy did not deserve to.
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  The guy did not deserve to live.
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  Yes, we value life.
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  But this guy was an evil man, one of the orchestrators of 9-11.
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  We got him and we took him out.
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  And for that, we were thankful.
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  And people got behind Barack Obama.
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  Even President Trump said that he did the right thing.
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  But fast forward, because they don't like Trump, they have TDS, they can't come out and say, you know, President Trump is doing the right thing.
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  And remember, I played on here.
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  John Kerry, the former Secretary of State, who actually congratulated Trump on what Trump was doing.
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  And even Hillary Clinton, some time ago, when we first embarked on this, she said that if Trump is successful in doing this, you know, we should give him his accolades.
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  But now they don't want to do it because they don't want Trump to win.
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  But what Trump is doing is getting rid of a nemesis, a four decade old nemesis that has been at our side.
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  And as you mentioned, people, Heather, look at the people that have killed the Americans' lives, the blood shed the cost of these radicals.
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  And Democrats can't get in line and say this is the right thing.
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  Well, the only one who's who is saying that it is the right thing is John Fetterman, who seems to have his head on the right.
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  And he's a Democrat.
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  And he says, I'm a Democrat, but I can tell the truth.
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  I know what's right and what's wrong.
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  And he said, I wish some of my other colleagues would do the same thing.
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  I don't know if this is going to cause him the election when it's time for him to be re-elected.
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  But he's doing the right thing.
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  It is policy over party.
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  It's Americans over party.
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  And when you're doing something right, we should be able to see it.
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  And everything that this president Donald Trump has been doing has been to protect America and to make America great again.
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  But he came out and called out all these radicals who were attacking our Jewish brothers and sisters.
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  And then the audacity of some of them to say that Benjamin Netanyahu, he's dragging Trump down this truth down this dangerous road and there's no good.
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  Well, look at what Trump has done right now.
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  He's told Benjamin Netanyahu, put a hold on it, no more fires, no more shots.
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  We're going to wait.
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  We're going to see, we're going to put a ceasefire.
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  We're going to see what Iran is going to do.
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  Now, at my humble opinion, Heather, there is nothing that the Iranians could say at this point that would make me believe them or trust them, would make me believe that they do not want to continue enriching uranium.
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  So although they will say it, they'll put it on paper.
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  I would not believe it.
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  Because they're known to lie.
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  Their latest thing is, well, the agreement, the 14 points, one of the 14 points is okay, uh, open up the the uh street of Hamoods, uh, withdraw your troops, let us continue doing what we're doing while we continue talking.
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  Are you serious?
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  You don't have a ground to stand on.
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  You don't have a military.
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  The only thing you have are radical leaders.
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  You have nothing.
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  You thought you were controlling the Strait of Hamoos, and now we control it, and now your oil is stockpiling up.
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  You don't have any place to put it, and it's only a matter of time that you're going to crash and burn.
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  And you know my response to that?
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  Let them crash and burn.
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  Let them.
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  That is the only way they're going to see that we mean business.
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  But you know what they're doing?
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  They're hoping that Americans will protest, will speak out so that Trump will say, okay, let's give in, or that they will drag this out long enough so that it'll get to the midterms and they'll say, let's wait and see what happens.
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  Let's wait and see what happens.
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  If the media, if we had an honest media header, and if we had Democrats who were rooting for Americans, they would say, take the deal.
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  You're not going to win.
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  We don't support you.
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  But the same way it was two years ago, when we had college students, university students on the campuses, shouting to the river to the sea, and all these other hateful things, reaching jihadist.
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  This is what they're hoping for.
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  They want this to happen.
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  They want this a reoccurrence of this.
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  And it's really unfortunate.
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  Because if the media were to call them out, and the Democrat Party, I think that they would they would cave and they would give in.
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  But they're hoping.
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  Hope beyond hope that somehow these they will be able to assemble protesters up who put enough pressure on Trump, the Trump administration, to say, okay, we'll just leave.
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  We'll leave, we'll stop what we're doing.
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  And the moment they do it, they will continue enriching uranium.
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  They will continue supporting terrorist groups, continue supporting, probably a terrorist attack here, just like over the weekend, we saw a terrorist attack, Heather, in the UK by Iranians.
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  This is going to come to our shore if we don't wake up and realize what's happening.
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  We've had a guest to come on here to talk about this, Simon Ding.
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  And he said, Europe has a problem.
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  United States now has a problem.
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  It's time to wake up.
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  That attack in the UK, if that's not going to wake them up, and then you have the British Prime Minister Starmer, who seems to be completely oblivious to what's happening to his country.
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  And he's allowing his countrymen to die because he won't speak up.
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  He won't say we need to get this immigration thing under control.
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  He refuses to say it.
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  There will be no good ending to this.
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  When you have a knife-welding man killing people, purposefully seeking out Jewish individuals, Heather, to kill them.
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  Like I said two years ago, we saw this on university campuses.
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  And it was horrible.
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  Yeah.
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  And you have these university presidents coming before Congress and saying, oh, we see nothing wrong.
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  Wrong.
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  Oh, no policies were breached.
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  Oh, no policies were breached.
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  Oh, there's these kids here, they're just out and they're just protesting.
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  Oh, this the kids are they're just out and they're just protesting.
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  That's they have a right to do it.
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  That's they have a right to do it.
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  I was watching, and I think I sent you a clip of the video of a member of the opposition party in the UK.
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  I was watching, and I think I sent you a clip of the video of a member of the opposition party in the UK, her name is Kimmy Beninch.
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  Her name is Kimmy Benana Benutch.
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  And she said that, you know, initially it was okay.
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  And she said that, you know, initially it was okay.
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  Having the protest, you know, people have the right to protest.
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  Having the protest, you know, people have the right to protest.
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  She said, but it's something else that's going on now.
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  She said, but it's something else that's going on now.
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  And we have to stop it because it's not.
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  And we have to stop it because it's not just protest.
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  This is hate.
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  This is inciting people to go out and do something to go out and harm people.
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  That's what it is.
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  Now imagine if we have the KKK doing that here, saying that we're gonna kill all the blacks, and we're oh no, we gotta stop them because they just said the word kill.
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  But when it comes to our Jewish brothers and sisters, we're gonna allow it.
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  What gives?
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  This is very dangerous.
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  We're setting precedent here by looking the other way.
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  As opposed to calling out the hate and calling it for what it is.
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  It is hate.
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  They're inciting violence.
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  Under the guise of this is friendly protest, this is we have a right, this is our freedom of speech.
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  Yeah, you have a freedom of speech, you have a freedom to assemble, you have freedom to go out and make your voices heard.
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  But when you're instigating riots that result in the death of individuals, there were Jewish students who were harmed during these riots two years ago or a year and a half ago.
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  Look at the church, the synagogue bombings that we've seen take place in Washington, D.C., there was a couple that was gunned down, and people don't even talk about it anymore.
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  Preparing to be married, and they were gunned down by a radical Islamist.
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  They're not gonna stop.
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  They're gonna keep going.
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  And that is a reason why you have a lot of them trying to seek public office.
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  Look at this guy, Hassan Piker, who said that Israel, they're terrorists, that they're bad.
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  And you have people who support this.
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  It won't stop until we start to call it out.
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  And when you have our elected officials who seem to agree with what's happening, who seem to buy into it?
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  That's dangerous.
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  It is extremely dangerous.
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  But yet here we are on the 15th anniversary of taking out one of the worst terrorists in the world.
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  It was 15 years ago that we all came together and said that a Democrat president did the right thing.
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  A president did the right thing.
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  We gave Barack Obama his accolades for doing the right thing and taking out this thorn in our side.
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  But fast forward, Democrats can't muster up the respect, the energy, or to do what's right and say President Trump is doing the right thing.
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  They can't stand up together and say we need to denounce the anti-Semitism that's growing in our country.
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  This has to stop.
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  This is not who we are as a nation.
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  Where are our elected officials?
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  Where are those party heads?
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  Where is Barack Obama?
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  And I said this last week during the third assassination attempt on President Trump's life.
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  Where's Barack Obama to come out and say, we are one nation?
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  We're not, we don't bleed red, we don't bleed blue.
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  Remember when he said that, guys?
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  Back in 2000, I think it was 2004.
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  Why isn't he saying that now?
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  Where is that voice of reason?
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  He's quiet.
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  I was teasing her leading to the attacks in the UK by these radical Islamists, Iranians.
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  And Heather, I wanted to get your thoughts on it because we've been talking about this for quite some time.
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  And Heather, I wanted to get your thoughts on it, because we've been talking about this for quite some time.
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  And as I've said before, when we don't talk about it, if we don't keep this out front, if we allow this to be buried in the new cycle, it'll keep happening.
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  And as I've said before, when we don't talk about it, if we don't keep this out front, if we allow this to be buried in the news cycle, it'll keep happening.
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  And it will be, it will become the norm.
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  And it will be it will become the norm.
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  We look at what happened in Nazi Germany.
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  We look at what happened in Nazi Germany.
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  You have the left saying that Trump is a Nazi, but they're the ones who are targeting our Jewish brothers and sisters.
• 21:20
  You have the left saying that Trump is a Nazi, but they're the ones who are targeting our Jewish brothers and sisters.
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  So what is your what are your thoughts over?
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  So what is your what are your thoughts, Heather?
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  Yeah, no, that's a good point, Rob.
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  I mean, we've heard for years now about the dire, dire warnings and panic about Donald Trump and MAGA and his supporters.
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  But you know, there's precious little evidence that MAGA is a threat to anyone uh in terms of basic safety or um anything like that.
• 21:54
  And if to the contrary, there's been a lot more violence from the left in this country, the biggest fingerpointers, um, uh the biggest muelers of oh, we're anti-hate, we're against hate.
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  Many of them are the biggest haters around uh of anybody who supports Donald Trump, of Jewish people who support our only one and only Jewish nation in the world, Israel.
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  A lot of the left is full of hate of Zionists, which all it means for the benefit of our listeners.
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  The only thionist means is a Jewish person who supports the right of Jewish people to have a safe, secure country of our own and our right like any people's right to self-defense.
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  That's what a Zionist is.
• 22:54
  Um, but we've seen that word smeared, and people who support Israel subject to intimidation on college campuses and and uh mischaracterization uh in media um online when we see it uh translating into physical assaults now.
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  Um it's it's horrible, and it's a dark side of human nature.
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  Uh, I you know it's become clear to me in recent years that most people who are truly full of hate for other groups don't consider themselves haters.
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  They don't they any more than probably most Germans did.
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  They were brainwashed, they believed they were cleansing the world or whatever it was that Hitler inculcated them to believe in.
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  They had this sense of self-righteousness about it, and that's what I think is most, you know, ominous about this left today in America and in Europe is they have this self-righteous sense that they are they and anyone they support have a monopoly on suffering, a monopoly on the right to uh violence.
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  I mean, that their violence, anything they initiate is is on is is justified because they they have convinced themselves that they are always the victim.
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  The Palestinians are always the victims, nothing they do or have provoked or continue to provoke has any relevancy whatsoever to what's happening, they have no agency in the problems that have plagued their society for 80 years plus.
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  Um, and that there's this this this attitude that they are like the golden victims who anything they do must be justified and uh praised and completely understood and allowed.
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  And I think that I you know, I this this uh this attitude of I would call it like the victim bully mindset, uh, is the sickest thing about the left of today, and I think it's deeply ingrained.
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  Um we see it, we see it uh all over the place.
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  I mean, I I think that when you start feeling whoever you are, like you have this moral sort of obligation to get rid of the other, it's like this sense that you're this benighted, it's a kind of arrogance um that I see often in today's left.
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  Not not everybody.
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  I mean, I think there are people on the left who are great people, and but we see so much of it uh in this hatred, hatred of Donald Trump and all his supporters, and the whipping up of the fear and the linkage of Trump to Israel and Zionists, you know.
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  I think that it's kind of an irony of the situation.
• 26:25
  How can I put this?
• 26:26
  I mean, I as a Jewish American am very grateful for President Trump's support of Israel and Israelis, and that he understands this is uh a complex and ongoing situation.
• 26:38
  He gets the bottom line, which is that Israelis do not want to be hurting anybody, but they're forced by these repeated and incessant Palestinian and other Arab war attacks, terrorism for decades to take a tough posture and to defend themselves.
• 26:59
  You see what happens when they don't, you get October 7th, and if you know, if Palestinian society, much of it, and certainly the terrorists who are in charge there, if they had their way, the every day would be October 7th, and it would be an eternal Holocaust, and there would be no modern Israel.
• 27:20
  And President Trump understands this.
• 27:23
  You know, he knows that this is just this idea of moral equivalency and that Israel's committing a genocide.
• 27:30
  I mean, that's a horrible, obscene untruth.
• 27:34
  It's just a fuck total falsehood.
• 27:38
  The reason there are a couple different reasons that a lot of Palestinians, including their poor children, die in such numbers.
• 27:47
  And the biggest reason is their own leadership.
• 27:50
  They why have they never built a shelter for these children?
• 27:54
  You know, why do they provoke wars of atrocities on Israeli civilians and then stand there and you know leave their children above ground while they crawl down into tunnels?
• 28:00
  And then stand there and you know leave their children above ground while they crawl down into tunnels.
• 28:08
  You know, why why are with all their billions, Palestinian leadership not protect its citizens?
• 28:08
  You know, well, why are with all their billions, Palestinian leadership not protect its citizens?
• 28:14
  Well, because they set it up this way.
• 28:14
  Well, because they set it up this way, you know, they fight dirty and then they force Israel's hand, and you know, they they create the situation in which more of their civilians die because.
• 28:16
  You know, they fight dirty and then they force Israel's hand, and you know, they create the situation in which more of their civilians die because that's their strategy.
• 28:31
  So we know this, and I think that Donald Trump knows it, and I think that he understands that in terms of values, trying to protect civilian life, human rights, women's rights, freedom, including freedom of religion, freedom of the press, all these values we share with Israelis, Israelis are under siege.
• 28:53
  He, you know, and I think that you know, sadly, his support of Israel, the way in which he's demonized reminds me, you know, by the left of the way they demonize Israelis.
• 29:04
  It's very similar, I think.
• 29:06
  It's based on hysteria, not on facts.
• 29:10
  You know, just as the left, I I would urge our listeners to understand.
• 29:15
  I mean, Israelis are no more generally speaking, violent people for no reason than MAGA um people are.
• 29:24
  I mean, Israelis aren't going around looking to hurt Palestinians.
• 29:29
  I mean, they they're trying to just live, but they've been mischaracterized, you know, because they have to be strong in their self-defense.
• 29:38
  This has been twisted by the left into oh, they're committing genocide.
• 29:43
  It's similar to the way the left twists this idea that you know, we who support Trump are racists who are out to kill people, and I mean, it's just it's just basically a lie.
• 29:55
  I mean, it's it's a lie.
• 29:58
  I mean, if there's A, I'm not saying everybody on our side and everybody in Israel is totally perfect, you know, but anybody who's not good, I mean, that's seized upon and magnified and exaggerated, and it's propaganda.
• 30:13
  And I think that the other thing that's happened is unfortunately, because President Trump, I mean, I don't want to say unfortunately, it's fortunate that he supports Israel.
• 30:24
  Um, but I think that in a weird kind of way, this irrational hatred of Trump and his supporters has bled over into more hatred of Israelis because Trump, you know, likes and understands Israelis, it's like it's almost like the taint that the left has put on Trump and his supporters, now they're stirring up against Israel and Israelis.
• 30:52
  You know, it's almost like the good fortune Israelis have had of having a strong ally in the White House has turned into kind of a misfortune because all of this irrational hatred of Trump is is also being it's further inflaming, I think, irrational hatred of Israel, because the same people who distort and twist um, you know, the what President Trump is like, what most of his supporters are like, what most police officers are like, you know, we know that the majority of all these people in these groups are good, but the in the you know, the eyes of the left, they're evil, you know, police just exist because they want to torment minorities, and you know, Israelis wake up every day and they want to torment the Palestinians and MAGA people are going out and hurting uh Jesse Smoled in the middle of the night, which turned out to be a complete fabrication.
• 31:49
  But it's like they're they're basically this is this is these are lies.
• 31:53
  It's like blood libel.
• 31:55
  It's like you just keep repeating off and off over and over again.
• 31:59
  MAGA's bad, Israelis are bad, Netanyahu's uh genocidal murderer, Trump is a racist, bigoted pit pedophile, you know.
• 32:08
  There's no compelling evidence of any of this, and it does, you know.
• 32:13
  I don't want to get hysterical.
• 32:14
  I know we're not 1932 Berlin, but I mean it is like, you know, what Heather, here's the thing.
• 32:21
  But it is a lie.
• 32:22
  It's like what the Nazis did in a way.
• 32:24
  I mean, they repeat it over and over again.
• 32:26
  And that's the key.
• 32:27
  They repeat it over and over again.
• 32:31
  And unfortunately, you have individuals who are weak, who are susceptible to believing anything, they become indoctrinated, and they start to believe it.
• 32:46
  But something that you said that I think is worth repeating.
• 32:50
  Look at where the violence is coming from.
• 32:54
  It's not coming from the Jewish individuals.
• 32:57
  They're not attacking the Palestinians here in America, Israel.
• 33:03
  The same thing with MAGA.
• 33:04
  MAGA isn't attacking the left.
• 33:09
  The left is attacking MAGA.
• 33:12
  The Palestinians are attacking the Jews.
• 33:15
  You look at Hamas, you look at Hezbollah.
• 33:19
  But they want to say that it is the other group that's doing the attacking.
• 33:23
  They're the bad guys.
• 33:24
  No, they're not.
• 33:24
  I would submit to you to look carefully and closely as to what they're presenting to you.
• 33:30
  But as you said, Heather, they say it over and over again.
• 33:36
  They repeat it.
• 33:39
  No, or hoping that there's someone that's out there that's gonna hear this and they're going to flip, which is what happened.
• 33:48
  The UK.
• 33:50
  These Jewish men were mining their own business.
• 33:53
  They weren't bothering anyone, or this maniac to attack them, and that is always the case.
• 34:01
  You look at an October, you know, they were at a music festival, mining their own business, and then this onslaught, this attack.
• 34:11
  Yeah.
• 34:11
  And then when you have someone like Hassan Piker, who is extremely dangerous, extremely he is David Duke's on steroids ten times over to come out and say the things, well, you know, it should have happened.
• 34:26
  I'm glad that it happened.
• 34:27
  And he says it openly, and then to have Democrats to go on his show and say, oh, well, we go on everyone's show.
• 34:33
  Well, look at MAGA, they go on different people's show, but they don't go on a show whereby someone is calling for the death of Israel.
• 34:41
  Someone is calling for the death of a political opponent, which is what Hassan Piker does.
• 34:48
  I'm not familiar with him.
• 34:50
  I have to say I am very familiar with him, and he has said that.
• 34:54
  When you have someone who's coming out who's making saying such hateful rhetoric and saying that what happened is okay, that's extremely dangerous.
• 35:00
  And saying that what happened is okay.
• 35:03
  That's extremely dangerous.
• 35:06
  And it has no, it has it has no place in a civil society.
• 35:06
  And it has no, it has it has no place in a civil society.
• 35:12
  But the left will not call it out.
• 35:12
  But the left will not call that out.
• 35:15
  They will pretend as if though, oh no, he's a good guy, and you guys go on other people's shows.
• 35:15
  They will pretend as if though, oh no, he's a good guy, and you guys go on other people's shows, as I said before.
• 35:20
  As I said before, you remember when Trump was running for office and he kept he constantly said they could were constantly asking him about David Duke.
• 35:21
  You remember when Trump was running for office and he kept he constantly said they were constantly asking him about David Duke.
• 35:28
  So let me play Hassan Piker.
• 35:28
  So let me play Hassan Piker, and some of the hateful rhetoric that he says.
• 35:33
  He even said that 9-11 should have happened.
• 35:36
  He was glad that it happened.
• 35:37
  I don't know if this is a clip, but Q it, here we go.
• 35:40
  Play the tape.
• 35:44
  You would kill Rick Scott.
• 35:46
  Okay.
• 35:47
  You wouldn't make Rick Scott, former governor of Florida, Rick Scott.
• 35:50
  You wouldn't make him the uh current what is his current office.
• 35:55
  What is he?
• 35:56
  He's the Richard Glenn Scott is an American attorney of his politician Navy veteran serving is the senior United States Senator from Florida.
• 36:02
  Uh CD has held since 2019.
• 36:05
  No, that's him saying that they should kill Senator Rick Scott.
• 36:10
  He was making reference to the healthcare executive who was killed.
• 36:14
  Now I want to run another tape because this is on their side.
• 36:18
  They say that it's us.
• 36:19
  No, it is them, and they seem to celebrate it, and you have them, Democrats, wanting to go on his show because he has a huge following because of some of the hateful rhetoric that he spews, some of the things that he says, and no one wants to call him out.
• 36:36
  They pretend as if though he's okay, it's okay if he says this.
• 36:41
  Let him say what he says because there's free speech.
• 36:44
  No, that is not about free speech.
• 36:45
  That is hate.
• 36:46
  And you're asking for someone to be killed.
• 36:49
  But see, these are the things that have to be called out.
• 36:52
  We can allow people like this in our society to continue to come out and say these hateful things, and then get people to act upon them because it is a threat to democracy.
• 37:06
  It is a threat to our fellow Americans, and these are the people who are seeking to run for political office.
• 37:15
  They're seeking higher office, and because he was born here, he can very well go out and get higher and seek political higher offices, and then to continue to spread his rhetoric.
• 37:27
  That is a threat.
• 37:28
  That is extremely dangerous, and we should call it out every time we see it.
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• 39:37
  But that being said, I mean you you understand what we're talking about, that we're allowing these radicals, or we're giving them the space and legitimizing them by saying what they're saying is okay, and it's not okay.
• 39:49
  It is extremely dangerous.
• 39:51
  And when you have people like that that are saying it, and like I said, these individuals are now running for public office.
• 39:59
  You look at Michigan, you look at this one guy, this El Sahid, who's running for office in Michigan, and he will continue to spread his hateful rhetoric.
• 40:10
  No, I have him uh I'm gonna play him now because I have him here on a tape.
• 40:17
  Hold on here.
• 40:18
  And he's talking about abolish ice.
• 40:21
  Abdul El Saeed, he wants to abolish ice, and of course he wants to abolish ice because he wants more of his brethren to be able to come here.
• 40:29
  Once they're here, they set up shop and then they start to spread their hate.
• 40:34
  I hope the folks in Michigan reject him and don't vote for him.
• 40:38
  But because he was born in America, he's an American citizen, he can seek higher office, and one day he can seek the office of the presidency, just like so many others of them.
• 40:49
  His parents came here, they say as immigrants, they've been living here for quite some time, but the hate that they spread, which is the same hate that we saw exhibited in the UK this weekend, run the tape.
• 41:10
  People like myself and people like yourselves, and said that we were radical, but now I can easily say because I'm no longer alone.
• 41:21
  Tell us that we can't think about the wrong name.
• 41:24
  I couldn't really hear that very well, Rob.
• 41:26
  I I well, I mean, look, I I I'm not so familiar with this guy, and I don't doubt that he's spee spewing some bad things.
• 41:34
  I mean, I will say that I much as I think that the goals of ICE and President Trump's goals are um justified.
• 41:46
  I you know, I think that we did see some unfortunate things happen.
• 41:53
  I mean, a couple of Americans were killed who shouldn't have been killed, and much as I think that a lot of this leftist stuff is complete lies, as you know, I mean, I do think that they had some basis for objecting to that.
• 42:00
  Stuff is complete lies, as you know.
• 42:02
  I mean, I do think that they had some basis for objecting to that.
• 42:06
  Um but in the bigger picture, we know that there's a lot of horrible things happening within this country that the media doesn't want to touch, such as children being trafficked, uh, gangs and gang violence and drugs that have been migrated from around the world into this country.
• 42:06
  Um, but in the bigger picture, we know that there's a lot of horrible things happening within this country that the media doesn't want to touch, such as children being trafficked, uh, gangs and gang violence and drugs that have been migrated from around the world into this country.
• 42:27
  Um, you know, in terms of the
• 42:27
  Um, that though, you know, in terms by the numbers, a lot of people suffering, Americans, first of all, but secondarily, the illegals who the left claims to want to help.
• 42:39
  Um, many children have been have gone missing.
• 42:43
  You don't hear any outcry from the left.
• 42:46
  So much as I, you know, I I think that the the left is full of of exaggeration and hypocrisy on this subject.
• 42:55
  Um, and I think that anyone who's a true humanitarian should be concerned first for children, including migrant children who are, you know, being sent alone across deserts and being being trafficked, and you know, all of this is has gotten tremendously underreported, under addressed.
• 43:15
  Where is the outrage?
• 43:16
  Where is even the concern?
• 43:18
  That's number one.
• 43:19
  I mean, it really American lives are number one, but secondarily, you have you know the children of these illegal immigrants who are um suffering as a result of these ridiculous policies.
• 43:31
  So I mean, I as you know, I support the intent behind uh what I see is doing, but I do think there have been some problems, you know.
• 43:39
  There have been some problems, but now we have Mark Wing Mullen who's over it, and I think it's gonna clean it up, but I don't think that's a reason why the Democrats didn't want to fund it with any, and I and I hate saying this.
• 43:50
  I mean, I really do.
• 43:51
  With any group, there will be some problems.
• 43:54
  Nothing, no one is perfect, and you iron them out.
• 43:56
  But to say shut them down, do away with them because there's a problem to me is the wrong thing.
• 44:01
  Now, I want to ask you this.
• 44:03
  Why do you think there is this turn on our Jewish brothers and sisters?
• 44:10
  Especially by the especially by let me say this, especially by the Democrats.
• 44:16
  Jews, just like blacks vote for Democrats in drones.
• 44:20
  Blacks are now waking up and they deliver to Trump one of the I mean the largest amount of blocks voted for him in this past election than any other Republican.
• 44:30
  So my question to you, as a Jewish woman and what you're hearing, why do you think Democrats are seemingly turning their back on the Jewish their their Jewish constituents?
• 44:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:46
  I think um a lot of it has to do right now with the fact that Trump supports Israel, and that this hysteria, this but it was even with Barack Obama.
• 45:03
  I mean, but look at how Barack Obama hit his seemingly did not care.
• 45:07
  It seems as if though the last president who really cared about the relationship that we had with Israel was Bill Clinton and George Bush Jr.
• 45:16
  Barack Obama we know that he didn't like Benjamin Netanyahu.
• 45:20
  Okay, that's fine.
• 45:20
  But the Jewish people as a whole, this it seems as if he gave people like the okay, it's okay to dislike them, even with Joe Biden.
• 45:30
  Uh Benjamin Netanyahu, you know, was okay with Joe Biden.
• 45:33
  He even called Joe Biden out the election and congratulated him.
• 45:37
  But the Biden administration, we saw a lot of Jews who were harmed, and the Biden administration, Merrick Garland did absolutely nothing.
• 45:45
  So why didn't you?
• 45:46
  I mean, I think it's just a function of this the ascendancy of the hard left in democratic policy politics.
• 45:54
  Um we know that the hard left hates Israel, hates Israelis, has twisted the the this unfortunate necessity of Israeli self-defense into something it isn't, which is I mean, it's a horrible term to use when it's not true, and it's not true, believe me, the Jews are committing genocide.
• 46:17
  I mean so so misguided, so such libel completely misguided.
• 46:23
  Sland.
• 46:24
  I mean, you know, I mean, when's the last time you heard of a genocide where people were sending in tons and you know, thousands of tons of food to and and trying to help the people that were supposedly genociding?
• 46:36
  I mean, we know that Israel's been forced into a corner into fighting a war against a dirty fighting enemy for their led by terrorists that hides among their children, and even so, you know, Israel tries to minimize civilian casualties, but this is twisted into oh, Israel's committing a genocide.
• 46:55
  This is what the hard left has has done.
• 46:57
  They've I don't know.
• 46:58
  I mean, I wonder sometimes, do they actually believe that?
• 47:01
  It's kind of like do they believe that the police are I mean, I'm not saying there's never been police brutality or is it a power model?
• 47:10
  Well, but I mean, my point is do they really believe most police officers wake up and say, I want to go kill blacks for no reason.
• 47:17
  I mean, do they really believe that?
• 47:19
  You know, this is what they want you to believe.
• 47:21
  And for power.
• 47:23
  They want you to believe it for power.
• 47:24
  So it's what is it what they believe?
• 47:26
  I don't know.
• 47:27
  It's a distortion, it's an exaggeration.
• 47:29
  It's you know, it's a smear, but I mean, this is what they do to conservatives, and this is what they do to Israel.
• 47:36
  And so you're asking me, you know, why is it that the Democrats don't stick up for Israel?
• 47:40
  Well, the same reason the Democrats don't stick up for decent police officers.
• 47:45
  I mean, this isn't their platform anymore.
• 47:49
  They've convinced these radical kids and impressionable, you know, troubled, misguided, lost souls, that the this whole country is a fundamentally racist enterprise, and that most police are brutal and it should all be abolished, and that Israelis are committing a genocide.
• 48:11
  And this is what they the hard left believes or pretends to believe, and this is what they've mobilized a lot of people to vote on the basis of.
• 48:21
  And so it's the same thing.
• 48:23
  I mean, the Jews, any Jewish person who you know, believes it's it's important and that it's it's certainly the right of Jewish people to have a state, just as a civilian Muslim countries, right, is like now smeared, you know, now has to be cast in the role of enemy, I guess, because their whole they don't their platform and their brainwashing machine doesn't allow for even any nuance at this point.
• 48:53
  I mean, it used to be that they were, in my view, somewhat distorted and they were one-sided, but at least they were, you know, they knew they allowed for that even the liberal Democrats of yesteryear allowed for acknowledgement that well, you know, most Israelis are decent people too, and the Palestinians, you know, have their side, and that you know that there are two sides to the story, which you know, I anybody can see that that's true, whatever else you believe, but it's like now that isn't even cool with the democratic base.
• 49:00
  They were you know, they knew they allowed for that even the liberal Democrats of yesteryear allowed for acknowledgement that well, you know, most Israelis are decent people too, and the Palestinians, you know, have their side, and that you know that there are two sides to the story, which you know, I anybody can see that that's true, whatever else you believe, but it's like now that isn't even cool with the democratic base.
• 49:29
  Now it's
• 49:29
  Now it's twisted into Israel is this genocidal monstrous country, just like all the cops or you know, evil Ku Klux Klansmen, and that's their cartoonish idea of reality.
• 49:44
  And so any Jewish person who says, you know, I care about Israel has to be demonized in that um that uh scenario because that's what they're preaching, that's what they're selling.
• 49:58
  They're selling a bunch of far-fetched extremist, you know, distortions and in some cases outright fabrications, and so anybody it's like they can't, they're fanatics, basically, and they're teaching young people to be fanatically radical, and that's what sells to a lot of people, apparently.
• 50:20
  I mean, I still wonder how many people really believe that.
• 50:24
  I mean, I think it's fashionable on the left to kind of parrot these kinds of things, but I mean, I don't know the answer.
• 50:31
  I don't know how many people really believe that.
• 50:34
  I think most of these are are kids or young people who just don't have much life experience, and you know, think it's cool to go to this protest and do that, but whatever, whether they believe it or not, this is what the the Democrats are increasingly dominated by these this wing of their party, and so for them to acknowledge, well, you know, yeah, we don't agree with the war and this and that, we think too many Palestinians died, but you know, they did attack the Jews on October 7th and commit mass atrocities and rape, and they you know, the leadership brought it on the people.
• 51:11
  I mean, that you know, and there's two sides of the story, and this is what I always ask they they can't maintain their radical, you know what I mean?
• 51:20
  That's the more reasonable position, but this is what I always ask.
• 51:23
  This is what I think that's not what they've that's not what they've built their brand on.
• 51:28
  Right.
• 51:28
  Their brand.
• 51:29
  But this is what I always ask.
• 51:30
  Do you have Jews coming to America or any other country as a terrorist and causing harm?
• 51:39
  No, no, and why do you think, you know, why were people ripping down pictures of of Jewish children who'd been kidnapped and murdered?
• 51:50
  After do you see Jews doing that of to pictures of Palestinian children?
• 51:55
  Would you like to do that?
• 51:56
  I mean, to me, it's so obvious.
• 51:58
  Of course, like yes, that's what I've said all along.
• 52:00
  Look at the behavior of the respective groups, even here in America.
• 52:04
  You would think people would um infer something from that.
• 52:09
  How often do you see Jewish people bothering anybody?
• 52:12
  I'm not saying every Jew in the world is perfect, right?
• 52:15
  But do you see do you see Jews quite a group massively killing people?
• 52:19
  You don't, you don't generally know you don't know.
• 52:22
  Are they taking down when was the last time a Jewish individual just like took down a whole group of people like we hate them and launched an attack?
• 52:31
  You don't see it.
• 52:33
  But you do see generally happening.
• 52:36
  Yes, exactly.
• 52:37
  Exactly.
• 52:38
  And if you were to get people to stop and say, look, look at this, like the Candace Owens, the Tucker Carlson's and all those kids who were on the college campuses, it's like, okay, stop.
• 52:48
  When was the last time a Jewish person took a bomb and tried to blow up a whole group of people?
• 52:55
  Or took a machete and started trying to knock people.
• 52:58
  When was the last time it happened?
• 53:01
  They couldn't tell you.
• 53:04
  It doesn't happen too often.
• 53:05
  Well, I'm not gonna say it never happened in the history of the world.
• 53:08
  Well, if it did, if it did, we're be talking about it.
• 53:10
  We would be able to pinpoint it.
• 53:12
  But we can't.
• 53:14
  But we can look at all the others, like I said, when we opened up talking about Osama bin Laden, look at the evil that he has committed in the world.
• 53:21
  And we took him out.
• 53:22
  Look at the Iranians, look at them funding these terrorist groups, and it keeps happening over and over again.
• 53:30
  But people are in denial, they don't want to admit it.
• 53:35
  They don't want to say it.
• 53:37
  I mean, I was looking at the other day when uh King Charles came to America.
• 53:42
  You had these same people out saying no kings.
• 53:44
  They had just had a no kings rally last week, and then you had a king to come here, and they're all out celebrating.
• 53:51
  Oh, King Charles, oh, we like him.
• 53:52
  I guess they like him because he's a climate change activist.
• 53:55
  I don't know.
• 53:55
  But it's like there's your king.
• 53:57
  Why don't you go in protest?
• 53:58
  Why don't you say we don't want you here?
• 54:00
  But they didn't do it.
• 54:02
  Well, the truth is though, he's a king only in name.
• 54:05
  I mean, he doesn't have to be a good thing.
• 54:06
  But it doesn't matter.
• 54:07
  It does not matter.
• 54:08
  But yes, I get you.
• 54:09
  He was a king.
• 54:10
  Okay.
• 54:11
  And as we said once before, Democrats' hypocrisy is thy name.
• 54:16
  You're you're hypocrites.
• 54:18
  You're complete hypocrites because you say one thing and you do another.
• 54:22
  You want to attack the good and say that you're the good, but you're actually the bad.
• 54:28
  Really honestly, Rob, I think they're just spoiled babies.
• 54:32
  I don't know.
• 54:32
  So they're dangerous, they're dangerous, babies.
• 54:34
  Yeah, that's true.
• 54:35
  I guess that's true.
• 54:36
  But I the only reason I don't think they're totally dangerous, is that I think most of them look at the assassination attempts out.
• 54:43
  Look at the I think they're really dangerous.
• 54:45
  No, no, they're that's true.
• 54:47
  That's true.
• 54:47
  I'm not saying there's no danger.
• 54:49
  I'm just saying as a group as a mass, liberals, particularly white liberals.
• 54:54
  Right, they throw it to you.
• 54:55
  Yeah, but they're physical cowards.
• 54:57
  Most of them are not gonna, they're not gonna do anything, and then nor should they do anything.
• 55:01
  It's all right.
• 55:02
  But what they say, but what they say is so dangerous.
• 55:05
  Yes, it is the worst.
• 55:06
  Look at look at Maxime Warders.
• 55:07
  Go around them, surround them and say you're not welcome, and some of the other hateful things.
• 55:11
  You know, people can say, oh, well, it's innocent.
• 55:13
  But when you have people to no, no, I don't think it's innocent.
• 55:16
  I just don't think that they, you know, I have this debate sometimes with my mother, and she says, Oh, there's gonna be a civil war, and I say, No, there's not, because in order to have a civil war, you have to have people who are willing to take a punch.
• 55:28
  Now, to be quite candid with you, I think they can mobilize, you know, tougher people in minority communities.
• 55:37
  You gotta be able to.
• 55:38
  I think those people fortunately are waking up more.
• 55:41
  You know, you say you made the well, I hope a lot more.
• 55:43
  Well, you know, there's a there's a uh a state I'll say this and we've got to go.
• 55:47
  There's a statement that uh Mike Tyson made.
• 55:50
  He said everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face.
• 55:55
  So what you're saying, you know, they've got to be willing to take a punch.
• 55:58
  And yeah, I mean, you look at them, but when they mobilize, you have these wimpy men, wimpy women who are constantly, you know, bitching about something, but when it's time to really fight, like they and they've given up all their guns.
• 56:00
  They mobilize, you have these wimpy men, wimpy women who are constantly, you know, bitching about something, but when it's time to really fight, like they and they've given up all their guns.
• 56:10
  You know, so what yeah.
• 56:10
  You know, so what that said, that said the Muslims are dangerous.
• 56:12
  That said, that said the Muslims are dangerous.
• 56:15
  They're dangerous.
• 56:15
  They're dangerous.
• 56:16
  I mean, they look this is the point.
• 56:16
  I mean, they look this is the point.
• 56:17
  This is why we have to disable Iran.
• 56:17
  This is why we have to disable Iran.
• 56:20
  Those people are crazy.
• 56:20
  Those people are crazy.
• 56:21
  And not only will they take a punch, they'll blow themselves up.
• 56:21
  And not only will they take a punch, they'll blow themselves up.
• 56:24
  They'll blow themselves up and they don't care about it.
• 56:24
  They'll blow themselves up and they don't care about it.
• 56:27
  You know, the stupid left are their handmaidens.
• 56:27
  You know, the stupid left are their handmaidens.
• 56:30
  Oh, absolutely.
• 56:32
  They're dangerous to the extent that they empower people who are dangerous.
• 56:36
  And as they say, they carry the water for them.
• 56:38
  Folks, you've been listening to After Dark on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
• 56:41
  And my co host tonight is Heather Robinson, contributor of the New York Post.
• 56:44
  I hope you enjoyed our show, and we hope you will join us again uh uh ton tomorrow night uh when we come back on.
• 56:50
  Uh until then, God bless, be safe.
• 56:52
  Good night.