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Episode 9: From Myth to Chaos · The Bad Moon's Orbit

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  Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Bad
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  Moon's Orbit. I am, as always, your Warhammer
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  aficionado. Dalton Montgomery.
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  And I'm Darren Smart, and I'm pretty sure Warhammer is just
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  one of the many tools Achilles used.
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  I am so happy to welcome you all back to another episode.
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  As alluded to in a couple of our previous episodes, we have
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  covered the realms. We have talked about the gods
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  who have survived the end of the world.
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  There was and have reappeared now in the moral realms.
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  We've followed Sigmar's grand journey across the cosmos as he
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  is uniting this pantheon, as he is exploring these realms.
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  And right now everything is on the up and up and that can't
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  last. So upset.
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  OK. We have explored the Age of Myth
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  in pretty extensive terms. A note on chronology.
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  The Age of Myth lasts for an indeterminate amount of time.
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  Sigmar's yeah, Sigmar's journey through it is a small chunk of
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  it. Things kind of normalize.
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  We get a state of like normalcy, kind of post assembly of the
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  Pantheon where things are genuinely quite good.
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  We have kind of this golden era during the Age of Myth where
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  things are really like on the up and up, but the Age of Myth
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  can't last. And over the course of this
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  episode and the following couple of episodes, we are going to
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  talk about how the world of the Mortal Realms transitions from
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  what it in universe refers to as the Age of Myth to what it in
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  universe refers to as the Age of Chaos.
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  OK, it makes me sad but OK. I know we we talked about all of
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  these cool places. We've talked about all the like,
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  interesting things that are happening in them and now we are
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  there's a a foot hovering over the sandcastle.
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  It is. Oh, man.
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  OK, let's move. Let's go.
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  But the Age of Chaos doesn't all happen at once, as I'm very fond
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  of saying in this. Dalton gaming things.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Remember earlier this time?
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  Yeah, Hell yeah. This was like a cheat, but I
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  just really like minis. Yeah, minis are awesome.
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  I've been paying more and more attention to minis in this
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  instance, doing this podcast with you cuz like that's the
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  whole core element and it's neat.
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  Also, I actually owned a little set of D&D pewter minis when I
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  was in 7th grade. I didn't play D and DI made a
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  board game for my English class about Eldest, the second book in
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  the Inheritance Cycle by Christopher Paulini.
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  And I needed pieces to use for the board.
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  So my mom went to the fantasy store in the mall and got me
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  these pewter pieces and they were just the figures you used.
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  And I still have like three of them.
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  I think they've survived the the decade and a half.
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  So yeah, minis are great. They're so good.
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  I am on record as a a big fan of minis.
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  If we're talking kind of abstract about game stuff, I'll
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  mention I've been doing new. Oh, as we're recording this,
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  we're right in the lead up to the launch of the 4th edition of
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  Age of Sigmar. Hype, hype, hype.
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  I have been practicing some new painting techniques and
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  preparation. This is going to come as a shock
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  to some of you because I've been painting miniatures for four
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  years now. Lord.
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  And without a pandemic hobby, yes.
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  It was very much. Nice.
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  No, no, that's great. No, yeah, I owned my first,
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  like, Warhammer miniatures before that, but I bought them
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  for, like, D&D games. Yeah.
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  And then during the pandemic, yeah, I was like, well, I can't,
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  I could get into this. Yeah.
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  I'm spending all my time at home.
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  But this is going to come in a shock to some of you who are
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  already familiar with miniature painting.
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  But I did undercoating on a miniature for the first time,
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  and that is life changing. I'm going to be doing that a lot
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  more. What does that mean?
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  So undercoating is where so usually you want to prime a
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  miniature, one solid color that gives you a solid baseline.
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  Say it's almost like a makeup foundation where it's just like,
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  OK, this is a base to work off of.
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  Undercoating is where you prime the miniature black and then you
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  go over the top of it with a technique called dry brushing,
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  where you take a stiff brush and you get most of the paint off of
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  it. So you just have like the bare
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  minimum kind of particles on it. And then you just lightly brush
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  it over the miniature so that the bristles catch the raised
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  parts of the miniature but don't get into the crevices.
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  Yeah. So what that does is it kind of
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  artificially highlights the parts of the miniature that are
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  sticking out more. If we use black in the crevices
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  and then you take a very thin paint in hobby we usually call
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  them contrast paints because that's the like Warhammer brand
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  like ones they flow very well. They are thin and you take that
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  over the top of your base coat and dry brushing so that you get
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  the more vibrant, more saturated color on the places where the
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  dry brushing has happened. But you keep that dark tone and
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  the crevices and whatnot. So for fabrics, it gives a very
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  realistic, like a light, yeah, like light catching the edges of
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  cloth or like the raised parts of the cloth and stuff.
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  Yeah, that's. Really cool that's.
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  It right, I've been enjoying it. Normally I just like base coat
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  and then I use a type of paint called a wash, which is a
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  similar idea. It's like doing the thing in
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  reverse basically, where it the wash will pool in the like
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  receded parts of the miniature. So this is a new experience for
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  me and I've been enjoying it so far.
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  Yeah, we love discovering new things in our hobbies.
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  Yeah, it's been a joy. Age of Chaos, Age of Chaos.
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  The Age of Chaos doesn't happen all at once, as I am prone to
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  say during this series. Cast does not shout, it
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  whispers. Chaos is defining characteristic
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  is that it is corruptive. It weeds its way into the world,
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  into the minds of people, and it slowly takes hold of them.
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  So the Age of Chaos, there is an event that marks the beginning
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  of the Age of Chaos, but that is not when the Chaos gods arrive
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  in the realms. It is the culmination of that.
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  So, but before we before we talk more about the Chaos gods, let's
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  talk a little bit about that like Golden age of the Age of
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  Myth. So post Sigmar assembling the
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  Pantheon. Together.
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  Yeah, what does the world look like now?
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  That Sigmar has all the gods working together, has people
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  roughly on the same side. There's still bad blood there,
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  there's still issues there, but generally everyone knows Chaos
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  is going to re emerge eventually and they want to do stuff to
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  mitigate it. So Sigmar goes back, yes, the
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  elves listen, elves. Elves Sigmar goes back to his
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  ear and he starts doing what he does best.
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  He is building cities, he is introducing people to new
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  technologies like systems of government organization.
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  He is fully he steps back from his role as like a conquering
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  God, as a like uniting the the world through conquest God and
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  fully embodies his aspect as like a civics God got to do.
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  Some engineering. Yeah, everybody working
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  together, everyone thinking about the best ways to act and
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  support each other. And he starts building more
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  cities and like directing the building of more cities not only
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  on Azir but just kind of across the realms.
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  People come from Azir and they go to actually and they go to
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  not so much. Guy ran because Ilario was
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  pretty clear. On the parameters of like don't
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  want your civilization shit? Yeah, Guran is a wild place.
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  So we're gonna get the wilderness untouched?
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  Yeah, absolutely. But settlements pop up in Gur
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  even like well guarded defendant settlements obviously don't.
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  Let those trees in. Yep, even in Shayish where the
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  realm itself is a place of apathy, it's a place of like
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  deterioration. They managed to build enduring
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  cities in Shayish partially with Nagash's help.
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  Nagash is playing nice for right now.
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  Everyone hates Nagash but he is not currently a problem.
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  And. Not currently.
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  A problem, yeah. And everyone is aware that if
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  they make Nagash a problem, he's going to keep being a problem
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  when Chaos isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  We're. We're just going to like
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  currently. He's playing nice.
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  Yeah, if, if it comes to it, he will help us beat the Chaos gods
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  and then we will deal with whatever shit he pulls next.
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  But for right now, it's fine. So Sigmar, that is Sigmar's
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  want. He just fully embodies this like
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  I want to spread order as far as I can because that is going to
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  not just order. We talked about this a little
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  bit in the Actually episode, but he doesn't want just want to
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  spread order in like an abstract way.
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  Sigmar During the time, especially during the time when
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  Sigmar was alive as a mortal person, the influence of Chaos
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  was a thing that was overwhelmingly directed at the
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  downtrodden right socio. Economic.
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  Disparities. Humans don't live very long in a
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  world of people who live a long time.
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  Humans are most prone to chaos corruption because chaos says,
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  look, you're you're getting maybe 40 years.
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  It were like a post medicine world.
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  Yeah, or a post medicine very violent world.
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  You're maybe getting 40 years. I'll give you 100 help.
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  I'll give you 150. Just do dark things in my name
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  and you might even like some of them.
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  I will give you power or I will give you pleasure that you've
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  never known, like going to someone who has lived on the
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  street eating dirt their whole life and being like feasts every
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  day of the year. All you have to do is kill this
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  one nobleman or whatever, or do something to enact like my dark
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  will. That is how chaos gets into
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  people. Interesting.
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  Interesting. You're saying that perhaps the
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  reason people are prone to doing destructive, harmful things may
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  not be due to an innate moral or ethical failing, but because of
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  extenuating factors that have left them feeling as if they
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  have no hope and or options in life.
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  Yeah, we we enjoy a little philosophy of justice here.
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  And Warhammer. So that is the chaos that Sigmar
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  knows. And as the cast, Sigmar
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  remembers. So he is not spreading cities
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  out of just this like innate desire to or this like want,
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  because that is his domain. He's doing it because he wants
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  to avoid that as much as possible.
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  He he says if everyone has justice under the law, if
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  everyone knows where their next meal is coming from, if no one
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  is using power to abuse others, then chaos has less footholds
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  into the world. Yeah, man.
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  Right. Yeah, All right.
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  It's. A good play, yeah.
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  Yeah. Right.
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  And that's, again, that's part of why Sigmar is so strongly
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  opposed to Chaos, unlike a fundamental level, because that
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  is already Sigmar's domain, and it is a good bulwark against the
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  kind of ways that say that Chaos influences people.
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  Yeah. So that is that's what Sigmar
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  gets up to. Dwarven gods.
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  Dead. Dead and still in service of
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  Sigmar. Yeah.
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  But yeah, Grim Near is gone, but his, the dwarfs following in his
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  tradition are still out doing their thing.
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  Yeah. Fire slayers trying to collect
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  all the pieces of Grim Near. That's right.
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  Yeah. Not to put it back together,
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  yeah. Not to put it back together, but
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  to do like his work basically. OK.
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  They collect all of the, like, really easy pieces pretty quick.
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  Yeah, absolutely. If you collected the hardest
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  pieces. Yes, and they kind of settle
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  into this routine of because they collect all the easy
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  pieces, but so do like a bunch of other people, but they don't
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  want to just like wage war because that's like grim Near
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  was absolutely a God of War, but he was acting as a protector God
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  when he died. And so a lot, and this varies
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  from like, fire Slayer clan to clan, but a lot of them take up
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  this very deeply ingrained tradition of, like, mercenary
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  work for Ergold specifically. Interesting.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  So they say, listen, you have, like, collected a stockpile of
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  Ergold. It fell out of the sky near this
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  settlement. We will defend this settlement
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  for the next 50 years for all your stocks of Ergold because we
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  are putting it to its intended use.
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  But that use involves defending people.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Some, some are a little bit more mercenary about it.
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  It it it it varies. Obviously people are people, but
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  generally things are pretty chill.
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  If you have Ergold, the Fire slayers will protect you in
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  exchange it's. Great.
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  It's like the Mandalorians. Who?
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  Want to do that? Yeah.
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  Or that? Yeah.
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  Best scar. Best scar?
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  Thank you, You could not. I'm trying to pull it for like 3
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  minutes over here. I just could not remember it.
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  Grundy is still around. He's paying off his debt to
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  Sigmar still. We don't know.
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  It's seemingly like we know into the modern day that Sigmar has
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  been like, hey, like you're good and Grim Near is just like Nope,
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  yeah, Oh yeah, Still wanted to pay off that debt.
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  We talked. I'm not going to rehash the
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  things that Grundy makes because we talked about them in the
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  shaman episode. I'm going to re bring up just
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  because the more I've thought about it since that episode, the
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  more weird it feels. We're not going to talk about it
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  yet, but one of the things we know Grim Near makes during the
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  Age of Myth is a magical artifact called the Anvil of
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  Apotheosis. OK.
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  And it's weird that he makes it this early.
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  We're we're going to get into it.
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  It becomes extremely important later.
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  But right now he just happens to make this anvil.
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  He makes it, presumably at Sigmar's request, because this
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  becomes a Sigmar thing. I was.
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  In a bit. Anvil Hammer, Yeah.
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  Yeah, the fact that Sigmar would request this artifact at this
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  point speaks to maybe some anxieties he's having about his
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  plan. Without getting too into it, the
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  Anvil of Apotheosis is going to eventually end up being kind of
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  like a it is going to be the no, I'm not going to get into it.
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  Sit on that, Juicy. Yeah, Anvil got it.
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  Grim near side of the dwarf. So before Grim near left Shaman,
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  he gave the dwarfs there, like, everything they would need.
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  Basically. It was just like, I'm going to
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  invent some stuff. I'm going to leave you a bunch
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  of ideas and blueprints and plans and materials, but then I
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  have to go film a debt. Have at it.
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  Some of that gets lost in time. As it would.
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  Yeah, to the point where in Shaman the dominant dwarven
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  faction comes to be known as the Carradron.
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  Carradron or Carrack is the OR sorry, Carradron's like a
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  dwarven word that just means like the important dwarves
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  basically, and that itself even subdivides into originally the
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  Carradron are just kind of this like leadership organization.
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  Eventually the needs of the realm become such that they form
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  this new group within the Carradron that are specifically
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  focused on trade. They need more materials.
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  They want to export the things that they are making to the
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  other realms, give them access to it, to that spirit of
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  invention. And eventually, as often happens
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  with economics, the trade and the like, market makers and the
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  merchants just are the Cara drawn.
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  There is no more like independent government part of
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  it left. It is just a like merchants
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  Guild that is in charge of the dwarfs.
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  On Shaman, yes, it is a mercantile government.
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  Right now, they're still pretty chill.
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  OK, I don't know if you remember, I just edited the GUR
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  episode Peek behind the Curtain. I don't know if you remember, in
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  the GUR episode, we made a joke about there's no capitalism on
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  GUR. Yeah, there is capitalism on
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  Shaban eventually. I would be shocked if the dwarfs
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  didn't eventually. Invent capitalism.
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  It feels like the dwarfs are going to eventually invent
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  capitalism. Yeah, the the carriage on get
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  there eventually. Yeah, right now it's more like
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  mercantilism. It's just I'm trading a good for
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  another good because we both need it, but it's going to get
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  worse. Can I talk about the thing where
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  you'll have folks in economics who are like, yeah, the earlier
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  systems were always like, I'll trade you my extra sphere for
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  that fur thing you have. And it's like, it's always been
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  like that. Except it actually probably
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  hasn't because that doesn't that assumes that there are always an
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  excess of what you someone were always having access than they
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  need for what you needed. And it's way more likely that
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  actually it was just early societies or groups function off
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  of Hey, I have this extra thing. You just have it like I don't
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  need it. You can just have it and you'll
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  get me back later when you have an extra thing that I might
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  need. And that's why giving and
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  receiving feels so good to us. We just want to give because it
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  was the earliest way that we survived in groups is just
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  having When we had more than we needed, we would just give it
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  out. Yeah.
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  Because that community, because the community would then and we
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  broke that and capitalism broke I just.
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  Communal systems, I mean, even before capitalism, like we had
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  money systems that were more equitable.
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  Yeah, it's, I don't know if this is going to remain in the
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  episode, but my degree is in economics.
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  But even that like they're like Maori tribes that had like
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  promise based monetary systems where there wasn't a physical
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  good. You just there is like an
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  extremely socially complex system of like you still owe to
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  the person something, but it was like a community focused trait
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  of it. So it's still like Mercantile,
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  but it's not like exploitative, Yeah.
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  You. Would never have someone who was
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  owed so many promises that they've run the world now.
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  Yeah, because that just that's because there's still like
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  nothing. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah. But yeah, the Carradron and
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  Carradron go crazy with tech, by the way, like as is often the
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  case when you just have this like the influx of power that
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  like being a Trade Center gets you.
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  The Carradron invent airships. They have these huge mechanical
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  airships there. Are dwarfs and.
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  Airship, they are dwarfs, are we?
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  Thinking like, is it like, are we looking at a steampunk
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  airship? Are we looking at Space Pirate?
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  Are we talking about Dalton? It is steampunk.
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  Airs airships on the dwarf and planet.
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  I I didn't put any in the visual reference, but they are I mean
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  picture like kind of a World War 2 era ironclad yes with balloons
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  yes places in shaman where Grunny was create this like
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  pseudo radioactive substance of his own divinity and they use
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  that to power their ships. Yes, they do, because part of
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  what was lost in that translation is we lose the
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  nuance of like here, I'm giving you everything that you'll need.
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  But I'm going to go work for Sigmar, tell my dad's paid off
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  and a lot of the Carradron's seek Ronnie as abandoning them.
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  Fair if we got to the modern era and he's still not that. 100%
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  And so the Carradron definitely have like a vibe of like, well,
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  we never needed you. This is our doing and we are
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  powerful in our own right. I see.
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  OK, wanted to be more powerful than the God.
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  That's always a good look. Gang, right?
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  Totally. I'm sure that'll be fine in the
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  long run, right? I'm sure that being your core
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  motivation will totally be chill.
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  And then outside of Shimon and like the fire slayers, we do
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  have another group of doors. We don't know like a super town
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  about them during the age of myth.
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  They'll be more important later. But other dwarfs who feel like
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  either their gods are gone and dead or they shared the carriage
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  on sympathy of Grumny, like abandoning them collectively,
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  those doors are known as the dispossessed.
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  They also, they also kind of take on that aspect of like,
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  well, we can't really rely on the gods.
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  So we are going to build up like ourselves.
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  We're going to ally with more readily with humans and elves
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  and kind of form these like cohesive communities in that
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  way. And that's neat.
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  Yeah, we like that. Yeah, that's what the dwarves
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  are doing during kind of the status quo of the Age of Myth.
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  Gorka Morca. Gorka Morca, employed as
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  Sigmar's Monster Hunter during the Age of Myth, takes to it
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  like a fish in water. Obviously.
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  Kirkmarker leads his grand hunt across all the realms for
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  innumerable ages with whatever orcs want to follow him just in
• 21:27
  his stead the whole time. Nice.
• 21:29
  I love. That right?
• 21:30
  I love that. For them he's so good, but if
• 21:33
  he's too good at his job before being real, eventually,
• 21:37
  especially with the spreading of Sigmar cities and kind of the
• 21:41
  claiming of the wild places of the world by civilization,
• 21:45
  eventually Gork Marcus hunting grounds.
• 21:47
  He gets to a point where Guy, Ran and Gur are like the only
• 21:50
  places he can reliably find the kind of hunts that entertain
• 21:54
  him. During this time he's picked up
• 21:57
  like A tag along one of the God beasts he was originally sent to
• 22:01
  hunt. They end up hitting it off
• 22:03
  instead but and now they're friends.
• 22:05
  That's my favorite. Right, Friendly rivalry is
• 22:07
  probably a better gorkomark. Ends up friends with the God
• 22:11
  beast Behemoth. Behemoth is a giant.
• 22:14
  He is the, ER, giant. He is the son of Yim Nog, who
• 22:19
  was the previous, ER, Jack. Oh, OK, yeah, that makes sense
• 22:22
  about why he would be the son. Yeah, he would be their giant.
• 22:24
  Totally. When Yimnog was alive, it was
• 22:26
  just him and Behemoth, and Behemoth was relatively little.
• 22:30
  He was like 30 feet tall. Yeah, comparatively.
• 22:33
  Yeah, yeah. And Yum Nog's like the size of a
• 22:35
  continent. Totally.
• 22:36
  Sigmar killed Yum Nog when he first arrived on Azir.
• 22:39
  Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:40
  Cuz Yum Nog claimed all of his ear for himself.
• 22:42
  He was a tyrant. Oh yeah, and, and Zimar was not
• 22:46
  jazz. Nope.
• 22:46
  So Sigmar killed Yum Nog and we talked a little bit of in the
• 22:51
  actually episode. Yum Nog along with Trichothian
• 22:54
  along with Vocatrix are what we know in Age of Sigmark has
• 23:02
  Zodiacal beasts. Yeah, they are God beasts who
• 23:06
  are more than just being big monsters, they're woven into the
• 23:10
  fabric of the realm. Yeah, so killing that dude was a
• 23:12
  bad idea. Yes, what happened in this case?
• 23:15
  Nature abhors a vacuum. With the death of Yim Nog,
• 23:18
  Behemoth grew to match roughly his size as you.
• 23:23
  Would. Yep, Behemoth becomes the new
• 23:25
  world Titan. And when Gorkamarka goes to kill
• 23:29
  him, they hit it off and now they're just buddies.
• 23:33
  Gorkamarka and Behemoth wandering the realms on their
• 23:35
  big hunt together Go for. Them.
• 23:38
  Right. But as hunting grounds get kind
• 23:42
  of rarer and rarer, they start looking for other ways to
• 23:45
  entertain themselves because that's ultimately what both of
• 23:48
  them are in it for, right? And what they land on is just
• 23:51
  daring each other to do stuff. Basically it's, it's a high
• 23:55
  school party, right? Right.
• 24:00
  Just where? Someone smuggled out their
• 24:02
  dad's. Beers, right?
• 24:03
  Yeah, it's just Gorkamorka being like, hey, I bet you can't drink
• 24:06
  that whole lake and Behemoth being like betchy, I can.
• 24:11
  And then he does and he's like, I bet you can't bite the top off
• 24:13
  of all that mountain range. And then Gorkamorka is like, ha,
• 24:17
  bad bet I've got 2 heads. And then and eventually, as
• 24:23
  these kind of things always do, it escalates to the point where
• 24:27
  it becomes a problem because they're causing a bunch of
• 24:30
  destruction and Gorkmark is getting a little bit because
• 24:34
  Behemoths like matched in blow for blow this whole time.
• 24:38
  So finally Gorkmark is like, I got one.
• 24:40
  The use never going to be able to do I want you to beat Sigmar
• 24:46
  in a fight. Why did you tell your buddy to
• 24:48
  do that? Because he's Gorka Morgan.
• 24:52
  Yeah, and he couldn't beat Sigmar in a fight they fought to
• 24:56
  a standstill. Yeah, that's right.
• 24:57
  And he's worked up and he's like you.
• 25:00
  Can Yeah, Yeah. Go find the guy that killed your
• 25:03
  dad. Yeah.
• 25:06
  What the fuck, man? Long story short, Behemoth does
• 25:09
  he? He goes to Azir to fight Sigmar.
• 25:12
  Does Sigmar know what's going? Does he?
• 25:14
  Know no he's. Just at work and all of a sudden
• 25:17
  this giant. The New World Titan.
• 25:20
  Shows Titan, rolls up and he's like OK.
• 25:22
  By all accounts Behemoth like strode into his ear yelling like
• 25:27
  come fight me bro like I want to challenge and Sigmar through
• 25:33
  Gamma Raz over his shoulder like didn't even look and beamed
• 25:38
  beam. Right behind.
• 25:39
  He's like he's at his computer. Yep.
• 25:43
  Catches it. Beamed Behema in the head and
• 25:46
  knocked him unconscious. OK.
• 25:48
  Yeah, didn't kill him. Didn't kill him, didn't kill him
• 25:50
  unconscious. How does that work when you
• 25:53
  knock a giant world tight and unconscious on the realm you
• 25:56
  live? Crushed a city.
• 25:57
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:58
  Became a new mountain range. He's still there.
• 26:01
  Yeah. Behemoth is unconscious for the
• 26:03
  entire Age of Chaos. All poor Gorkamarkas, right?
• 26:10
  He's not around. Right, Gorkamarka, that was, I'm
• 26:13
  sure, yeah. That's true.
• 26:14
  He's just waiting for him to wake up.
• 26:16
  Yeah, it's time. He's a God.
• 26:18
  It'll be fine. Yeah, the giants tell it.
• 26:21
  We don't know how true this is because it's giant oral
• 26:23
  tradition. A lot of giant.
• 26:24
  Oral. Tradition, right?
• 26:26
  To hear the Giants tell, this was the beginning of the the
• 26:29
  Giant race. They say that when Behemoth fell
• 26:34
  and hit the ground, he vomited up the first of the Giants, and
• 26:40
  all other giants are descendant from that.
• 26:42
  It's it's very Greek, it's very Athena emerging from Zeus's
• 26:47
  headache kind. Of yeah, it's always people were
• 26:50
  made out of the gross insides of another yeah deity.
• 26:54
  Yeah, so that's how the Giants tell.
• 26:55
  We don't know how true that is, but don't.
• 26:58
  Worry about it doesn't matter. Yeah.
• 27:00
  How does the timing work though? Yeah, I think so.
• 27:03
  Like we don't have any explicit stories about giants before that
• 27:06
  point, but so. All things considered, yeah,
• 27:10
  probably. Sure.
• 27:11
  Might as well take about their word.
• 27:13
  Giants just go on to do giant stuff.
• 27:16
  This will be important later, but some of them go.
• 27:19
  They move to guy ran, found like cities amongst the mountaintops
• 27:23
  where they'll be left alone and actually found these like kind
• 27:26
  of technologically impressive cities, which is not a thing
• 27:30
  usually associated with giants. Giants aren't like, innately
• 27:34
  dumb in the same way that like, trolls are, where they're like,
• 27:36
  brains just don't work right, but they tend not to be super
• 27:40
  into like, academic pursuits because they're 30 feet tall
• 27:45
  like a giant. It's hard to get a good
• 27:48
  education if you can't fit in the building.
• 27:50
  Yeah, Or even just like if you're born a giant, you
• 27:54
  probably live with other giants for a while.
• 27:57
  And then the food needs of giants are such that they tend
• 28:00
  to be solitary. They.
• 28:00
  Really hang out with other giants.
• 28:02
  Yeah, and then the easiest way to get food is to just steal it
• 28:06
  from people who are a 10th year height.
• 28:09
  Yeah, like so giants can learn, they can be smart.
• 28:13
  Most just don't have the incentive to, right?
• 28:15
  That's. Kind of the against.
• 28:17
  The Giants, Yeah, we're not. Just not built for you.
• 28:19
  Yeah, but we we get giants who moved to Garan.
• 28:21
  They formed the society in the mountain tops.
• 28:24
  They collectively come to be known as Sky Titans.
• 28:27
  Watch a good name on this episode.
• 28:29
  Right. They'll be kind of important
• 28:31
  later, but for the most part they're just chilling up there.
• 28:33
  OK, but that's what Gorkmark's up to.
• 28:35
  He goes back to hunting after Behemoth or Behemoth gets KO
• 28:39
  just. One shot.
• 28:42
  Yeah, and we'll be back to Gorkmarka here in a minute or in
• 28:45
  probably in the later episode because he's important to stuff
• 28:48
  that comes later. Elf time.
• 28:50
  OK, elf, Yeah, how are these fools doing?
• 28:53
  Techless Interion almost entirely focused their efforts
• 28:56
  on perfecting the process to pull souls out of Slanesh.
• 28:59
  Yeah, which fair enough. I mean, honestly, like, OK,
• 29:02
  again, I get it. I'm not sure.
• 29:04
  I'm saying I'm not saying I would do something different if
• 29:07
  I was in their exact position. I'm just saying I'm not.
• 29:09
  So I'm going to judge them for jeopardizing the whole mission.
• 29:11
  Yeah, 100% Techless uses his master of the arcane arts to
• 29:16
  just like basically build these wards and protections that make
• 29:20
  it much easier to pull souls out of Slanesh, a still super slow
• 29:23
  process. Slanesh consumed basically every
• 29:26
  elven soul in existence during the end times, and that's just
• 29:30
  going to take a while. Marathi is the one who helped
• 29:33
  design like the chains binding Slanesh and she tells them like,
• 29:37
  hey, this is a temporary solution like these.
• 29:39
  Nothing will hold forever finding a chaos God.
• 29:43
  So, like, you should think about the contingency for that.
• 29:48
  And they just kind of don't. God damn it.
• 29:50
  Yeah, it's going to be a running theme that the other gods don't
• 29:52
  listen to Marathi to their own ruin.
• 29:55
  They just dislike her so much they refuse to take her good
• 29:58
  advice. They don't trust her and like I
• 30:00
  get why they don't trust her but come on like.
• 30:04
  Yeah, yeah, but it's like, hey, you should definitely come up
• 30:09
  with a contingency plan for when the student never really breaks
• 30:11
  out, right? And you just don't because like,
• 30:13
  well, it's Marathi. I don't trust her.
• 30:15
  It's like, OK, I don't see how any of the vice I gave you could
• 30:19
  come back to right tell telling you, hey, not even let.
• 30:22
  I didn't. She didn't even give him the
• 30:24
  plan. She's not even saying you do
• 30:25
  this. She just said, yeah, you should
• 30:26
  definitely come up with a backup plan for this.
• 30:28
  And he just doesn't. A lot of it comes back to if
• 30:31
  there's anything in the whole world we know about tech Glycis
• 30:33
  that he's already sure that he's correct, right?
• 30:36
  That's true. Does he think it just won't
• 30:38
  happen? He thinks that they'll be able
• 30:40
  to get the Alvin souls out if he puts most of his effort to
• 30:44
  perfecting the process. They will be able to get all of
• 30:46
  the Alvin souls out before the chain sprink and then they can
• 30:49
  do something about it. OK.
• 30:51
  Do they? We'll find out spoilers, but
• 30:57
  even during that process, Techless is very concerned with
• 31:01
  the development of because they they had their first batch L's,
• 31:05
  they went bad. They're underwater solar Raiders
• 31:07
  now. Yeah, yeah, my favorites.
• 31:09
  Yeah, they're great. We love them.
• 31:10
  But so Techless is like really concerned with the development
• 31:14
  of the Luminous. Their second attempt, the
• 31:16
  lighthouse. He misses the world that was he
• 31:21
  misses also 1. He wants to like reintroduce
• 31:24
  that like culture to them and he also wants them to be the best
• 31:28
  they can be. And so he is going to turn into
• 31:32
  just the worst helicopter parent in the whole world.
• 31:37
  Yeah, he helps develop a thing called the Teclian ladder
• 31:43
  because of course he does. Because of course he does.
• 31:47
  Which is a like multi step process for just being a good
• 31:54
  like person that is entirely achievement based.
• 32:00
  It is literally like this is the lowest rung.
• 32:03
  Knowing all of these complex things and how to utilize them
• 32:07
  above that rung is like self actualization.
• 32:09
  And then there are 100 more rungs.
• 32:11
  It's. Like if Maslow's hierarchy of
• 32:14
  needs kind of sucks. Yeah, it's if Maslow's hierarchy
• 32:17
  of needs didn't even have like, food and shelter and stuff on
• 32:22
  it. It was just like, you're not
• 32:23
  even really a person until you can do very complex magic.
• 32:27
  And that's where it started. Where's the brother at?
• 32:31
  What's he doing? Ariel, Tyrion, we don't have
• 32:33
  like a ton of info. He's still blind so he he has to
• 32:36
  hang out with techless most of the time because he sees through
• 32:39
  techless eyes, but he's generally chill with it.
• 32:44
  I mean, I mean, I mean Tyrion, we got folks who don't have
• 32:48
  magical bonds with their kind of morally a twin brother and they
• 32:56
  have what's called Guide Dogs, get you a guide horse to your
• 33:00
  dogs. She does like horses.
• 33:03
  There are these zoological beasts.
• 33:06
  Zoological beasts? Yeah.
• 33:09
  We could get you one of those if you want so you don't have to
• 33:11
  hang out with your weird morally brother all the time.
• 33:16
  From what we get, Techless is still kind of recovering is the
• 33:19
  viable that we get. He took the end of the world a
• 33:22
  lot harder than Techless did. Told he was gonna save it all
• 33:26
  and even killed the God to bring him back because he was supposed
• 33:29
  to save it all and then he didn't.
• 33:30
  Like I get it, but like how much time do you need my man?
• 33:33
  Right, We get the sense that he's still struggling with the
• 33:37
  curse of Cain. He still has rage outbursts.
• 33:40
  And you know what would be great for that?
• 33:42
  An emotional support. Animal.
• 33:43
  Yeah, right. We could get a service animal
• 33:45
  and they're trained to do multiple things.
• 33:46
  Honestly just get him a dog. Just give this man a dog.
• 33:51
  He does, we don't. We do know that he like spend
• 33:53
  some time like training some of the luminous, like he teaches
• 33:57
  them like swordplay. That is always a thing that he
• 34:00
  prided himself on. So that's both therapeutic and
• 34:03
  again, like we know chaos is coming.
• 34:05
  Yeah, I'm glad he's. I guess we did.
• 34:07
  That yeah, the Luminous split into nine nations across Hitch.
• 34:12
  Hitch has 10 continents. The central continent is for
• 34:16
  Tyrion and Tecalus and then nine nations, each of which like
• 34:21
  specializes in their own branch of magic and general approach to
• 34:25
  things. There's one that's extremely
• 34:26
  weird that I'm going to mention briefly, even though it hasn't
• 34:28
  really hit its like pinnacle yet, called Eumetrica.
• 34:34
  I don't know why it's called that, but it gets extremely into
• 34:40
  it. Is it is that twisting of the
• 34:43
  kind of like luminous view of the world where it is kind of
• 34:46
  modeled after you've rest, which was the it's was Alarial's old
• 34:52
  Kingdom in the old world. And it had kind of a life focus
• 34:55
  because it was the seat of the ever queen.
• 34:57
  And so in the old world it was like, yeah, this is where all
• 35:00
  the bountiful crops come from and the life magic is practiced
• 35:04
  and like high birth rates and like the continuation of the
• 35:07
  elven people because elves naturally have very low birth
• 35:10
  rates. It's one of their like classic
• 35:12
  flaws. Yeah.
• 35:12
  Classic over here. I've got ELF quest, I've got all
• 35:15
  the original run of ELF quest on there.
• 35:17
  That's like a big component is that these fools just cannot
• 35:19
  reproduce right unreliably. And so you Metrica takes that
• 35:26
  like core idea and they're like, yeah, life and nurturing and the
• 35:31
  continuation of the elven people.
• 35:33
  You know, it would be great for that.
• 35:35
  Healing magic. No cloning.
• 35:39
  Oh my God, I'm just not prepared for cloning.
• 35:43
  That's what it's very much the luminous.
• 35:45
  Where are the souls coming from? The same person.
• 35:49
  Have they talked to the orcs about this?
• 35:51
  No, they there are people with like dozens of clones at some
• 35:56
  point in the metric accessory and they're just like, Yep, more
• 35:59
  elves like we did it it. If there's anything that defines
• 36:04
  the limit, it is taking a problem and finding the most
• 36:07
  like sterile sciency way to approach it, even beyond the
• 36:15
  point of reason. Yeah.
• 36:16
  I don't need to hang out with these people.
• 36:17
  Their their, their life. It's that when you all you have
• 36:20
  is a hammer. Everything looks like nails.
• 36:22
  But their hammer is like a calculus textbook.
• 36:25
  It's just can we solve this problem by being huge smart
• 36:28
  asses about it? OK, Yeah.
• 36:30
  And the answer is always yes. Yeah.
• 36:32
  Text list is their patron. I was surprised.
• 36:35
  Very techless, but that's hish. That's what the Heils are up to.
• 36:40
  Marathi basically checks out of the slanesh plan.
• 36:43
  That's fair, she got what she needed.
• 36:45
  She doesn't need to be involved with these fools anymore.
• 36:48
  No, she thinks it's going to bite him in the ass so she
• 36:50
  doesn't want to be near it. She just.
• 36:51
  She does not need to be near Slanesh.
• 36:53
  No, no, she's the only elf from the Old world who's not a God.
• 36:58
  Yeah. Just some bullshit.
• 37:00
  I'll say it again. So she kind of gets back to
• 37:04
  doing what she was doing in the Old world with a little bit less
• 37:06
  maliciousness, where she trains her elves to be spies to be to.
• 37:14
  Infiltrate all the places to have all the network of
• 37:17
  information. Absolutely.
• 37:18
  And like I said, she wants the information, she wants to have
• 37:22
  her influence spread. But it again, there's a tiny
• 37:25
  touch of altruism there. Like if a city comes under
• 37:28
  attack, she names her faction the Daughters of Cain because
• 37:32
  that's her, that's her alibi now, right?
• 37:34
  Is that? She.
• 37:34
  Is the high priestess of Cain She's.
• 37:36
  Got a heart? Heart in a bag, Yeah.
• 37:39
  Doggy bag. So she names her temple the
• 37:41
  daughters of Cain, and that is her organization is so good.
• 37:45
  And so if there are like spies from Rathi in your city and
• 37:50
  stuff, that's like, that's spooky.
• 37:52
  But if your city gets under attack from outside forces, the
• 37:55
  daughters show up like. Yeah, not a bad vibe.
• 37:59
  Yeah, to be like, that's kind of unsettling.
• 38:01
  But if things break bad, we do know they're here.
• 38:04
  And that's. Good.
• 38:05
  Yeah. And Cain's the God of murder.
• 38:07
  Yeah. Like if someone attacks your
• 38:08
  city, you might never know about it.
• 38:10
  Yeah, that's bad. The daughters are super.
• 38:12
  Cool. By the way, yeah, I'm definitely
• 38:14
  being like so I'd. Rather run with them than
• 38:16
  anything techless has gone, yes. But that's she she just kind of
• 38:20
  infiltrates, yeah, cities and stuff, gets the daughter spread
• 38:23
  out and speaking the good word of Cain.
• 38:26
  Bringing knowledge back to Marathi always has to know
• 38:28
  what's going on. Yep, Yep.
• 38:29
  We don't super know what Malaria's up to, which is going
• 38:32
  to be a trend, right? Yeah, that's what you said.
• 38:33
  Like he. Never created anything.
• 38:35
  He's got the soul. We don't know what he did with
• 38:36
  it. Right.
• 38:37
  Yeah. Yeah, Presumably he.
• 38:38
  Made like his own elves, like Umbreneth, gets thrown out
• 38:42
  occasionally, but yeah, he does a thing like during the very
• 38:46
  near the end of the Age of Chaos, that's important.
• 38:48
  But during the Age of Myth, he's just secrets hanging on to the
• 38:52
  secrets, Yeah. So yeah, sure, whatever.
• 38:54
  That's his vibe. Not.
• 38:56
  Surprised, not surprised a. L'Oreal.
• 38:59
  Fully embraces. When Sigmar found a L'Oreal, she
• 39:01
  was in her like spring aspect. She was open to growth, open to
• 39:06
  growth, open to trying new things.
• 39:08
  That's probably part of why she partnered with Sigmar so
• 39:10
  willingly, and at Sigmar's bequest, she fully embraces
• 39:15
  that. In the past, she had been, even
• 39:17
  during spring, a little bit reserved.
• 39:19
  She didn't want to push her influence out too far because
• 39:22
  even though she's deeply rooted to Guy Ran, she worried about
• 39:28
  like, stretching herself too thin.
• 39:30
  But as part of Sigmar's thing, like everyone, everyone should
• 39:34
  know where the next meal is coming from.
• 39:35
  People shouldn't have to deal with hardship and sickness.
• 39:37
  He highly encourages her. Like, yes, push your influences
• 39:40
  out as far as it can go. Help create bountiful crops and
• 39:45
  healing medicines and bring them to the other realms so that
• 39:48
  people don't have to deal with those hardships so we can
• 39:51
  bulwark against chaos. And she does.
• 39:54
  Guy Ran feeds all the other realms.
• 39:57
  Wow, yes, again, we're talking a pumpkin the size of a building.
• 40:05
  Pumpkin. Pumpkin.
• 40:07
  That can like. Imbued with life magic pick
• 40:09
  itself up and walk to where it's going right like Guy Ryan.
• 40:15
  Produces incredible. Medicines that go out to the
• 40:18
  other realms. We haven't talked about this a
• 40:20
  ton because it's going to be more important later, but each
• 40:24
  realm has a physical substance that's like the coal or
• 40:29
  coalescence of its magic. It just does to you what that
• 40:33
  realm does generally. Like Gers is amber bone.
• 40:37
  What a good name. Yeah, if.
• 40:39
  You're in possession of Amber. Bone, it makes you stronger, but
• 40:41
  also a bit more like fighting. Yeah, OK.
• 40:44
  If you eat amber bone, it turns you into a where creature.
• 40:47
  Don't do that. Yeah, there's you get to decide
• 40:49
  what kind of where. Creature no.
• 40:51
  Don't do that then. There's some orcs that like
• 40:53
  ritualistically practice like where creaturing and they turn
• 40:58
  into boars, but that's because Gorkkamark has got kind of a pig
• 41:01
  theme. The tracks.
• 41:03
  Yeah all that to say, Girans, those are called realm stones
• 41:07
  and Girans realmstone isn't a stone.
• 41:08
  Actually, most of them aren't stones, which is super funny,
• 41:11
  but Garrans realmstone is Aqua Giranis.
• 41:13
  It's liquid. Yeah, okay, that makes sense,
• 41:16
  Aqua. And it is pure, distilled life.
• 41:18
  Magic so shimmery? Yes.
• 41:22
  A. Drop of Aquaguranis can cure you
• 41:23
  of any disease. Imbibing it over long quantities
• 41:26
  of time can supernaturally extend your life.
• 41:29
  There's a famous bounty hunter in the modern day named Halivar
• 41:33
  Toll who's probably like 300 years old because he exclusively
• 41:38
  works for Aquaguranis. Yeah, that's smart.
• 41:41
  I. Would too, 100%.
• 41:44
  But Aquaguranis gets spread out across the realms as a cure all
• 41:48
  eventually to the point where the one cure all that actually
• 41:50
  works, yeah. Eventually to the point where.
• 41:52
  Local communities will have their like individual currencies
• 41:57
  and stuff, but Aqua Garandis becomes the universal currency
• 42:00
  that makes sense everyone will find.
• 42:02
  Value in that, yeah, I'll trade you a tablespoon of Aqua.
• 42:04
  Garandis for anything, right? And so that's like Alario is
• 42:08
  helping in that aspect. She's pushing your influence out
• 42:10
  further and further so more and more crops and healing medicines
• 42:13
  can be produced. She has less direct control
• 42:16
  because she's spreading herself so thin, but it's more.
• 42:20
  And that's what we need right now.
• 42:21
  We need abundance, we need post scarcity.
• 42:23
  And the Silvaneth herd tree people spread out as well.
• 42:28
  So enough leave. Guy ran for the first time.
• 42:31
  They spread to other planes and they find that being on another
• 42:34
  plane separated from the realm of life causes them to adopt the
• 42:38
  qualities of that plane in a very powerful way.
• 42:41
  Interesting. What happens if?
• 42:42
  They go where the trees eat people.
• 42:45
  They get real. Feral they basically become
• 42:49
  those people leading trees but like sentient and still
• 42:53
  themselves to a respect. But like if they go to shaman
• 42:57
  they become iron oaks and they just have like steel like bark
• 43:02
  they can go to Axi is another good.
• 43:04
  Name. It's so good they can go to.
• 43:06
  AXI and become I can't remember what they're called but it's
• 43:09
  like cinder like ashwood the internal flame and stuff yeah
• 43:14
  cuz they're internally inherently kind of magical and
• 43:17
  so they just adopt that more adopt the magic I.
• 43:20
  Love that just as a vibe. They're very good, I.
• 43:22
  Well, excuse me, I love. Region specific things in
• 43:25
  general. So like region specific Pokémon
• 43:27
  is my jam. So of course I love region
• 43:29
  specific sentient tree people. Yeah, they're great.
• 43:32
  And then the. Gash.
• 43:33
  Yeah, I guess we gotta. Guess we gotta go check out
• 43:37
  what's going on out here. People don't trust Nagash, of
• 43:39
  course. Obviously, yeah, because he's
• 43:41
  kind of the worst. Yeah, he's a big hashtag
• 43:44
  problem. Yeah, Nagash is.
• 43:47
  Like peace offering is that if there is anything that he has
• 43:50
  access to, it is labor, Yeah. So all those cities.
• 43:56
  We were talking about that Sigmar is going out and founding
• 43:58
  and building and stuff. Someone's going to build them.
• 44:00
  Yeah, those are. Going up so fast.
• 44:01
  Because they're not being put together by living people who
• 44:03
  get tired and need meals. They're being put together by
• 44:06
  skeletons and zombies and all the other dead that Nakash can
• 44:11
  conjure to do unpaid labor. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 44:14
  Mean they're scaling as they're dead, they're not real.
• 44:18
  Yeah, there there's a time. In the mortal realms where like
• 44:21
  if you live in a city and you want a house built you can just
• 44:25
  find your local vampire and be like hey can you have the
• 44:29
  skeletons? Build me a house and contract a
• 44:31
  local skeletons. Yeah, and you have to pay for it
• 44:33
  the. Labor's free, so the vampire's
• 44:36
  just like yeah, Will gets you on this schedule.
• 44:43
  You don't have to pay the. Vampire for theirs.
• 44:46
  I feel like they should be making.
• 44:47
  The contractor should be making something.
• 44:49
  They probably have an. Agreement where they get to feed
• 44:51
  on the populace, but it's it's chill, yeah, but it's but
• 44:54
  everyone's like it's. All about board is all
• 44:55
  potential. We have the paperwork of the
• 44:57
  receipts. Yep, absolutely.
• 44:58
  But. Mcash is playing nice and we're
• 45:00
  going to take that as far as it will take us.
• 45:01
  OK, we're on this bit. Everyone's a little like I
• 45:05
  really hope Chaos shows up soon before he gets bored, but while?
• 45:09
  Mcash is playing nice. He That's not his focus.
• 45:12
  No. He can conjure a billion
• 45:14
  skeletons into existence without even breaking a sweat.
• 45:17
  He's the God of death. Yeah.
• 45:19
  What he is up to during the Age of Myth is conquering Shaish.
• 45:23
  We talked about when he got there, there were all these
• 45:27
  individuals scattered afterlife. Yeah.
• 45:29
  Everyone had their own thing. Going on yeah and he didn't care
• 45:31
  for that shit. No, OK all.
• 45:33
  All these souls are his, he wants them all to be subservient
• 45:37
  to Nagash. Of course he does.
• 45:38
  He can't have them having their own little structures and
• 45:40
  beliefs. That's stupid.
• 45:42
  They just should be part of Nagash.
• 45:45
  So he sets about conquering the afterlife with his endless
• 45:49
  hordes of skeletons and zombies. Right afterlife.
• 45:53
  And then a fucking war shows up, like that's not what I paid for,
• 45:58
  right? He enlists.
• 45:59
  His more Turks these are people that largely exist in the world
• 46:02
  that was they were the head of his armies back then and they
• 46:07
  are again we have some big names.
• 46:09
  So if you're an old world fan, he just like kept the souls of
• 46:13
  his more tarks with him so he can put them in new bodies.
• 46:16
  OK, we have Manfred von Karstein, who's a vampire.
• 46:21
  Obviously we have. Nefarita.
• 46:25
  Nefarata. I remember her.
• 46:27
  Yep. First, first of the vampires.
• 46:29
  Yeah, we have Archon the Black. He was a he was from Kemri like
• 46:36
  Nagash originally was. He was his first disciple.
• 46:39
  I learned necromancy from him and then he recruits another one
• 46:43
  during the age of myth. He does because while mostly
• 46:48
  conquering Shaisha's child's play to Nagash, he does actually
• 46:52
  face resistance. In one part.
• 46:54
  He goes up against this warrior who was originally from GER and
• 46:59
  when he died ended up in like a Valhalla.
• 47:01
  I was warriors after liking. Yes, there had to have been a
• 47:05
  Viking one, because only when I said, oh, Can you imagine how
• 47:07
  much this sucks you in the afterlife and the war shows up.
• 47:09
  And I thought, well, I mean, unless you're an NRE in
• 47:12
  Valhalla, then that would be your whole jam.
• 47:16
  So yeah, he's OK. He's actually got a lot more.
• 47:19
  Like Greek theming, which is fun a choice, but he doesn't take
• 47:24
  like Nagash's invasion lying down.
• 47:25
  He like rallies all the souls in his afterlife to fight Nagash's
• 47:29
  invasion and he. Holds him off for a.
• 47:31
  Long time. It's actually extremely
• 47:34
  frustrating to Nagash because that afterlife is pretty close
• 47:38
  to where, like, Nagash comes to, like, his seat of power.
• 47:41
  And so we get this thing where Nagash has conquered, like, all
• 47:44
  the territory around this afterlife and, like, off into
• 47:47
  the distance and there's, yeah, there's just this chunk right in
• 47:50
  the middle that's still holding out.
• 47:53
  But you can't fight unless undead and unless other
• 47:57
  afterlife, even if you are an undead.
• 47:58
  Yeah, Nagash eventually takes it.
• 48:02
  Or Nagash eventually pushes up to the point where it seems
• 48:04
  inevitable. And this general decides, OK,
• 48:09
  like, this is a fight I have lost.
• 48:10
  I'm going to go and, like, seek parlay with the God of death
• 48:16
  because I am that confident in myself.
• 48:18
  And say, cool, I will, like, completely surrender.
• 48:23
  And you've seen what I can do. I'll do.
• 48:25
  I want to lead your armies. Yeah.
• 48:27
  Yeah, man. I want to be the highest general
• 48:30
  amongst all of your generals, even the ones that served you in
• 48:33
  the world that's now dead. I want to be ranked above them.
• 48:36
  Yeah, man. Ask for what you're worth.
• 48:38
  Yeah, and. Nagash.
• 48:40
  Is. Impressed.
• 48:41
  And he says yeah, much to the chagrin of Neferata.
• 48:45
  And I know what else is pretty hard.
• 48:47
  Yeah, so it's like, what am I all doing?
• 48:50
  You are gods, that man's name is.
• 48:52
  Orphaeon Catacros, check it off your bingo cards.
• 48:56
  People who play HS sigwar cuz he's still around.
• 48:59
  He's got a miniature and he takes up command of.
• 49:04
  He starts leading Negash's crusades deeper into Shayish to
• 49:07
  take other after lives and he does a great fucking job.
• 49:10
  I'm sure he does. He is.
• 49:12
  Almost certainly. The preeminent tactical genius
• 49:15
  of the Mortal Realms. Nice.
• 49:16
  Good for him, He's great. Anyone else know this is?
• 49:19
  Happening No. Yeah, I mean, people don't like.
• 49:23
  To go to Shayish. Anyways, and part of no one
• 49:28
  wants to poke the bear. I guess you could say no for
• 49:30
  sure for sure. I'm just.
• 49:31
  Thinking like, we got all these gods running around, and what
• 49:34
  are your things when you're a God?
• 49:35
  And I get that, like, most of these races, like, live a long
• 49:38
  time. So like, probably afterlife
• 49:39
  concept isn't as much of A priority as it would be with
• 49:41
  humans. Yeah.
• 49:42
  But like part of your beliefs when you're a God is like what
• 49:45
  you're promising your followers, right for following you in life,
• 49:50
  what they will get in death, right?
• 49:52
  And it sounds like none of them are able to guarantee that
• 49:54
  promise anymore. It feels like if that word got
• 49:57
  out, everyone would start to see more challenges in getting these
• 50:02
  races to continue to play ball. You'd think, but no one cares.
• 50:06
  No one cares. We it's.
• 50:07
  Kind of complex. The dwarves are already like,
• 50:10
  because their guys are the actor like this dead.
• 50:12
  She died in the old world. Yeah, so.
• 50:14
  This dude killed her, Yeah. So they're already like.
• 50:18
  They don't have that promise to work off of anyways.
• 50:20
  Fine, they're excused. From this Yeah, the elves.
• 50:23
  But honestly, they should actually be.
• 50:25
  Three times as pissed off as anyone else, right?
• 50:27
  This is this same too, right? You want to kill her?
• 50:31
  What are you going to do against?
• 50:32
  The God of the dead. Kill him.
• 50:35
  I don't know how I meant Teklas could figure it out.
• 50:37
  Teklas probably could figure it out.
• 50:39
  Figured it out, doesn't fucking told anyone.
• 50:41
  He's saved it in his back pocket when he should be figuring out
• 50:43
  how to keep this chaos demon from getting loose.
• 50:45
  We don't really know what the. Elves think about it.
• 50:48
  I think they're just trying to play nice.
• 50:49
  The orcs don't care because they don't go to Shayish.
• 50:52
  Yeah, we they're also excused. We do know.
• 50:54
  I don't think we. Know I don't think Sigmar knows
• 50:57
  what Nagash is doing but we do know that part of his deal with
• 51:02
  Nagash was promising him that human souls would go to shayish
• 51:07
  because there. Was a point.
• 51:08
  Where Sigmar was considering making like a separate afterlife
• 51:12
  for humans potentially like on Azir.
• 51:13
  Yeah, but that's something he gives up in negotiations with
• 51:17
  Nagash. He says yes, you get the human
• 51:21
  souls. He he doesn't.
• 51:23
  Think that Nagash. Is going to like conquer Shayish
• 51:26
  and turned into this like horrifying amalgus afterlife?
• 51:30
  Would he not think that? He's got other stuff on his
• 51:32
  mind. I don't know I if I'm a human.
• 51:37
  My God, it's the God of civilization and things look
• 51:40
  like they're pretty good. And then I find out he told this
• 51:42
  monstrous death God that he gets all of the human souls.
• 51:45
  I think I'm budding budding up with chaos pretty quick because
• 51:48
  you know what? Fuck it all I guess, cuz you, my
• 51:50
  God who's supposed to protect us all, has already condemned me to
• 51:53
  an eternity of whatever the hell this monster has planned.
• 51:56
  Fine, I want to live my life having feasts and parties and
• 51:59
  bacchanalia. I'm over it.
• 52:01
  We're starting to see some of. The cracks in Sigmares his Let's
• 52:08
  make everyone be friends, including the worst monster in
• 52:11
  history. It's like, no.
• 52:13
  You can't be friends with everyone because some people
• 52:18
  want to kill everyone that they don't like or think are human.
• 52:22
  And you, you don't negotiate with that.
• 52:24
  You don't give that person a seat at the table, you bash them
• 52:27
  over the school with one of the chairs.
• 52:30
  So Sigmar, you kill this man once you that would solve this
• 52:35
  problem real. Fucking quick he needed.
• 52:38
  He thinks he needs the gashes help against chaos, and he's
• 52:41
  probably right. Like yeah, no, you need to make.
• 52:45
  Sure that the rest of the entirety of your population
• 52:48
  don't side with chaos and give him a foothold.
• 52:50
  You're not. You're also not wrong.
• 52:51
  Yeah, but there's one more. This is kind of referred to
• 52:55
  collectively as the Pantheon of Order.
• 52:56
  It's again, we're we're building up that wall against Chaos.
• 53:00
  Yeah. One more big development near
• 53:02
  the end of the Age of Myth for the Pantheon of Order.
• 53:04
  The lizards are back. Oh.
• 53:08
  Where you going in space? I'm sorry you want to have.
• 53:12
  A video one more time Building the space lizard.
• 53:16
  Yeah, so. Excuse in the world.
• 53:19
  That was right. Lizards were the first of the
• 53:22
  old ones creation. They're basically like order
• 53:25
  reptilian robots. They are born with a plane in
• 53:28
  their head of what their whole life contains.
• 53:30
  Yeah, and then they get frustrated because the world has
• 53:32
  changed too much. The plane isn't accurate
• 53:33
  anymore. During the end times.
• 53:35
  Did they get in a spaceship? And leave they did during the
• 53:42
  end times is. Revealed that the huge like meso
• 53:45
  American style pyramids that the lizards live in were secret
• 53:49
  spaceships the whole time. And the the slon.
• 53:54
  The frog the the highest cast of lizard society, the slon, who
• 54:05
  are frog like Wizards. Yeah, the.
• 54:09
  Frog like Wizards. Of course they went OK.
• 54:11
  The Great Plan has failed everyone in the ship.
• 54:18
  It's all went bunk. Get in the car.
• 54:21
  Get in the car, loser. Relieving the all of reality,
• 54:25
  all of the like, all the. Lizards who could like retreated
• 54:28
  to the temple ships and the temple ships fucking took off
• 54:30
  into space and no one has seen this very it's so.
• 54:34
  Long and thanks for all the fish, dolphins, just.
• 54:38
  Leave. Yep, the.
• 54:40
  Salon go into hibernation, they can do that thing where real
• 54:42
  frogs do, where they just like turn off their bodies forever
• 54:46
  and then come back on when they need to.
• 54:48
  And most of the seraphon just like die, but the temple ships
• 54:55
  in space like hold on to their souls.
• 55:00
  They just go into cryo. Where cryo is your soul being
• 55:03
  stored in a temple spaceship. Yeah, OK, man, sure, sure for.
• 55:06
  Real they There's one of the few.
• 55:08
  Renamings that I like because it indicates a change in like form
• 55:12
  and function. This are the lizards come to be
• 55:15
  known as the seraphon because now the temple ships traveling
• 55:20
  through space, the salon like wake from their slumber and they
• 55:24
  mentally like psychically like it's super funny because what it
• 55:29
  literally is is the slon are like, oh lizard brain and they
• 55:33
  find Dracothian's mind in the voyage space they find.
• 55:38
  Dragon best friends OK, they find and they.
• 55:41
  Connect to Dracothian's mind and he's like, wow, you are not like
• 55:45
  anything I've encountered before, like where are you from?
• 55:49
  What happened to you? And like, the salon don't know
• 55:53
  anything about like, what's happening in the realms yet.
• 55:55
  They just answer the question. Yeah, They just answer the
• 55:59
  question in the way then the best way they know how up to
• 56:02
  this point. Like Sigmar told Drakothian what
• 56:06
  happened with the world that was.
• 56:09
  But we know how Sigmar feels about it.
• 56:12
  He's not going to go into deep details about it.
• 56:14
  He's just everything broke bad. Yeah, he's just focused on.
• 56:17
  Everything went to shit. I'm going to make sure it's not
• 56:19
  going to happen again. And Drakothian hasn't pressed
• 56:22
  because he's his friend. And yeah, he's like, OK,
• 56:24
  probably should share. More.
• 56:25
  But I'm not gonna make you. Drakothian asked.
• 56:27
  The Slam. Who are you, where did you come
• 56:29
  from? And the slam?
• 56:30
  Show him the end times. They just psychically.
• 56:36
  Project the whole thing. Drakothian sees the end of
• 56:42
  Sigmar's world for the first time in every detail, and he
• 56:48
  weeps openly. Yeah, like his like magic of the
• 56:53
  heavens infused tears, like make new stars in the sky.
• 56:57
  Damn. Yeah.
• 56:58
  There have been so sad. You make stars in the sky and
• 57:02
  he. He wails out in mourning and the
• 57:07
  salon steer the temple ships towards his voice and they
• 57:10
  arrive in the realms. We just get this fleet of
• 57:14
  Seraphon Temple ships. We get this fleet of Seraphon
• 57:18
  Temple ships that just like arrive in the mortal realms and
• 57:21
  they just hang out above his ear.
• 57:23
  They don't come down. They like make contact with
• 57:25
  Sigmar and he's like, I didn't really interact with you in the
• 57:28
  old world, but if you're on our side, great.
• 57:31
  And the slant are like, Yep, you got a dragon friend, Yep.
• 57:34
  And when the. Serif founder needed for stuff.
• 57:37
  Their souls are stored in the temple ship.
• 57:39
  They don't have physical bodies. The slam use Azir the magic of
• 57:44
  the heavens to make bodies out of like heavenly light for them.
• 57:50
  And so you just get this like there's a battle happening
• 57:53
  somewhere on the plane and temple ship like floats into the
• 57:56
  sky above. And then just like Star Trek,
• 58:01
  just beam them teleporter, just a legion of Seraphon manifest in
• 58:07
  the world. Great.
• 58:10
  That's so weird. Came up with that.
• 58:15
  I hope they got paid their words right.
• 58:17
  But just these lightning bolts. Just these giant lizards coming
• 58:21
  down in with lightning bolts. Yeah.
• 58:24
  They're like dinosaurs, yeah. Base level.
• 58:27
  Dinosaurs. Lightning bolting.
• 58:29
  Out of Stargates, Yeah, yeah. You can see there's like a slon
• 58:34
  floating there. He's he's the big frog on a
• 58:36
  chair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:38
  And then, yeah, just the, the very dinosaur like sorids are
• 58:41
  like the main seraphon. I think there's like a croc
• 58:44
  cigar maybe somewhere in there, just like a big crocodile one.
• 58:46
  I like these guys very much. They're very good, but yeah.
• 58:49
  They are just they were committed to fighting chaos in
• 58:51
  the world that was. They're here, committed to
• 58:53
  fighting chaos again now, even though they are heavenly
• 58:56
  lightning lizards. I love it the direction of the.
• 59:02
  Almighty Slam, Lord Croak is here.
• 59:05
  Lord Croak. He decided to stop.
• 59:06
  Being. Dead.
• 59:07
  Go for him. That's awesome.
• 59:08
  Not a joke. It's literally like he was dead
• 59:11
  for innumerable ages and then he just decided to stop.
• 59:14
  Yeah. Did he get to?
• 59:16
  Fucking death realm and realize this sucks.
• 59:19
  I hate it. No, he we don't know where.
• 59:21
  He was because he wasn't in the afterlife in the old world.
• 59:23
  Yeah, he was just chilling. But we love Lord take a nap for
• 59:26
  that. But yeah, the.
• 59:27
  Seraph owner here. They just kind of hang out above
• 59:29
  his ear, OK? During the rest of the Age of
• 59:30
  Myth, they commune with Sigmar occasionally, and otherwise
• 59:35
  they're waiting for chaos to show.
• 59:37
  Speaking of which, Oh no. Chaos, Yeah, Eventually, yes.
• 59:42
  Myth to Chaos. So eventually Chaos has to make
• 59:45
  an appearance. So that is the state of the.
• 59:47
  Realms and we talked about Sigmar's plan.
• 59:51
  If we make everything good and we keep people from want, we
• 59:55
  will keep Chaos out. OK.
• 59:57
  And that works for a while. Eventually the cast gods find
• 1:00:02
  the realms. We don't know exactly how, but
• 1:00:04
  they can't get in on their own. They need someone to let them
• 1:00:07
  in. And for a while, they can't find
• 1:00:10
  a foothold because no one is like.
• 1:00:14
  There's no one they could attempt to let them in.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah, things are too good. Things are chugging along, and
• 1:00:20
  so they change strategy because corruption is not just a symptom
• 1:00:29
  of the downtrodden. Yeah, there you.
• 1:00:32
  Go It's the folks who get too comfortable and fear losing
• 1:00:34
  their comforts. In the same way that Corn might
• 1:00:39
  empower someone to do violence to better their horrible
• 1:00:43
  situation, he might empower someone to do violence because
• 1:00:46
  they enjoy it. There you go.
• 1:00:49
  In the same way that Slanesh might tempt someone who has had
• 1:00:51
  nothing with having something, they might also tempt someone
• 1:00:55
  who has much with having a lot more.
• 1:01:00
  The Chaos gods latch not on to the lowest in society, but on to
• 1:01:05
  the highest. Yeah, that's going to.
• 1:01:09
  See Instant Impact unlike. The old world where chaos like
• 1:01:15
  chaos incursions from the north. In the old world were Norskin
• 1:01:18
  Raiders. There were people who lived in
• 1:01:19
  the shittiest place on earth, trying to use power given by
• 1:01:23
  dark gods to live in someplace less shitty.
• 1:01:26
  In Age of Sigmar, there is no one place that Chaos originates
• 1:01:31
  from, because it starts from the top and it flows downwards onto
• 1:01:35
  everybody, and that goes bad real fast.
• 1:01:40
  Sorry, Sigmar. You forgot that rich people also
• 1:01:44
  suck each of the gods. Does favor a realm that they
• 1:01:47
  emerge in? Corn emerges in Akshi, land of
• 1:01:52
  passions. The people there already
• 1:01:54
  practice like ritual combat and whatnot.
• 1:01:56
  If you all flip to the next picture is an image of corn
• 1:01:59
  demons flooding into the world. I don't.
• 1:02:04
  Like these, I mean, I do like these guys as demons.
• 1:02:06
  Oh yeah. Like I yes, like I do like them
• 1:02:09
  as demons designs, but like, not the same way I liked the
• 1:02:12
  dinosaur dudes. That's fair.
• 1:02:13
  Yep. Zinch foreheads are so.
• 1:02:17
  Long, right? Zinch emerges in Shaman, the
• 1:02:22
  ever shifting land of innovation, of hope.
• 1:02:26
  The Carodrod help usher Zinch into the world.
• 1:02:29
  Not intentionally, but you know, yeah.
• 1:02:31
  Aspiration. Oh, they're too pink.
• 1:02:34
  Yeah, they. Are in fact, too pink.
• 1:02:37
  Dear listener, the epitome of Zinchian.
• 1:02:39
  Demon are pink whores, they have too many limbs and they're
• 1:02:43
  bright pink. If you kill a pink whore, it
• 1:02:44
  splits into two blue whores. If you kill a blue whore it
• 1:02:47
  splits into two. Brimstone horrors.
• 1:02:49
  It's just never ending. Nergal emerges.
• 1:02:54
  In guy ran realm of life again, Nergal is also a God of life.
• 1:02:59
  It's just by his metric bacteria outnumbers everything else in
• 1:03:02
  existence. 1,000,000 to one I don't like it's.
• 1:03:05
  Slimy, right? Porous and.
• 1:03:08
  Plague, pestilence, pustules. I don't pustules.
• 1:03:13
  That's. Thank you.
• 1:03:14
  That was the word. Who is Jabba the Hutt's drag
• 1:03:19
  queen cousin Over here? That's Ku Gath he.
• 1:03:22
  Is a Great Unclean One, which is the highest rank of Nergl Demon.
• 1:03:27
  He's got a. Foot where you wouldn't take a
• 1:03:29
  foot would be a lot of mouth where you'd prefer there not to
• 1:03:32
  be teeth. A lot of Nergl demons are like
• 1:03:33
  that. As.
• 1:03:35
  As the God of. Stagnation.
• 1:03:37
  By the way, Nergl is one of the only cast gods who has like, a
• 1:03:40
  fixed form. Like, we know what he looks like
• 1:03:43
  and all of his demons look like him.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah, this guy. Looks like Slimer from yes if
• 1:03:49
  you look at that guy, he. Looks kind of like a tiny
• 1:03:51
  version of Kugef, and it's because they both look like
• 1:03:54
  Nergl. That's a Nergling.
• 1:03:58
  So sad. Slanesh is still trapped, even
• 1:04:06
  into the age of Chaos, even into the Age of Sigmar.
• 1:04:09
  The bindings hold into the modern day, but Slanesh's.
• 1:04:14
  Devons have. Noticed they've gone missing and
• 1:04:18
  Slanesh is the God of excess and you know it is a form of excess.
• 1:04:24
  Oh, tell me. Perfection.
• 1:04:28
  Oh, that teckling latter. We were.
• 1:04:30
  Talking. About wow, teckless, I mean.
• 1:04:32
  Fuck up so bad Teckless the lumineth.
• 1:04:36
  Not, as some people thought, like the daughters might be.
• 1:04:40
  Like the gateway. Yeah, for slanesh into the
• 1:04:43
  world, the Lumineth become so obsessed with their ideal of
• 1:04:48
  perfection and trying to like out compete each other yeah,
• 1:04:51
  that eventually it just tears open the world for Slaneshi
• 1:04:55
  demons to enter of their own accord.
• 1:04:57
  It's just walks right the fucking.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, and they are looking for. Slanesh.
• 1:05:02
  I like them. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:05:04
  Like all the tongues? Yeah, but I do.
• 1:05:07
  Like them, they're. A bit the aspect of slanesh.
• 1:05:10
  That most commonly gets like modeled and portrayed is like
• 1:05:14
  sexual excess, which is why they've got kind of a the
• 1:05:16
  deviancy vibe. Yeah, yeah, there's, there's a
• 1:05:19
  very specific. Vibe, yeah, going on here that
• 1:05:23
  I'll admit, I don't dislike it. It's like it's a good design for
• 1:05:28
  demons. Of excess, right?
• 1:05:29
  Yeah, like it's not. It doesn't feel voyeuristic.
• 1:05:33
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's how I'm like, yeah,
• 1:05:35
  they are like creatures. Of upset by it, but not.
• 1:05:38
  In the way I'm often upset by it.
• 1:05:40
  They're creatures of. Like sexual excess, but it's not
• 1:05:43
  like you, like you're not supposed to look on them and be
• 1:05:45
  like, yeah, yeah, they're, they're kind of.
• 1:05:48
  Horrifying in. That way, which is really OK,
• 1:05:50
  yeah. And.
• 1:05:52
  Then finally, finally our. Newest member.
• 1:05:57
  OK, Yeah. That guy.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah. Yeah, the great horned.
• 1:06:01
  Rat, who hung on to some of his mortal followers from the world
• 1:06:05
  that was. Oh, damn.
• 1:06:06
  Good for him, yeah. Not for altruistic.
• 1:06:08
  Reasons. No, no, no.
• 1:06:09
  But like, no. Like good for him as in a hey,
• 1:06:11
  successful, yeah, whereas. All of the other Chaos gods need
• 1:06:16
  like mortals to create an opening for their demons to pour
• 1:06:18
  into the realms. The Great Horned Rat during the
• 1:06:20
  End Times pulled the capital city of Scavendum out of the
• 1:06:26
  world into the realm of Chaos wholesale.
• 1:06:30
  And it's just been existing in the realm of Chaos all this time
• 1:06:33
  and he puts it in the sky. In the sky?
• 1:06:38
  Yep. It's just its own.
• 1:06:39
  Sub realm damn look. At these fools.
• 1:06:43
  See, if these were the rats, The Nutcracker wouldn't stand a
• 1:06:46
  fucking chance. I like this big Jew with a
• 1:06:48
  blaster arm. Yeah, yeah, that guy's great.
• 1:06:51
  He's a rat ogre A. Rat Ogre.
• 1:06:54
  Skeven. Practiced some real intense mad
• 1:06:57
  science. You make a rat ogre by starting
• 1:06:59
  with a normal scaven and then sewing the muscles of like 100
• 1:07:03
  more scaven to him. Yeah, sewing.
• 1:07:07
  It's. Not a breeding thing, you're.
• 1:07:09
  Like a species thing. It's a Frankenstein.
• 1:07:13
  Yeah, yeah. Not for it, man, but yeah, the
• 1:07:18
  great horn. Rat takes the city of
• 1:07:20
  Scavenblight and just places it in the sky amongst the stars.
• 1:07:24
  It becomes its own becomes its own sub realm.
• 1:07:30
  Because its own sub. Realm called Blight City and
• 1:07:34
  Scaven have spent so long in the realm of Chaos that they have
• 1:07:38
  just become attuned to it and able to navigate it way more
• 1:07:41
  capably than basically anyone else.
• 1:07:43
  And they start burrowing from Blight City into the other
• 1:07:48
  realms. Damn, yeah.
• 1:07:51
  Burrowing through. Reality.
• 1:07:53
  But that, dear listeners, it's not all who shows up.
• 1:07:58
  Oh shit, who else shows up? So we have.
• 1:08:02
  The four Chaos gods and they're demons.
• 1:08:04
  We have the great horned rat Miscaven.
• 1:08:06
  He also has demons. They mostly just show up in
• 1:08:09
  Blight City and then they follow this cave in into the realms via
• 1:08:11
  the Nah holes. That's how they traverse the
• 1:08:14
  rift. Nice.
• 1:08:15
  An old friend shows up as well. We have friend friend and
• 1:08:19
  quotes. Friend and quotes.
• 1:08:21
  OK, a familiar face. Oh, boy.
• 1:08:24
  You could say, OK, we don't know where he shows up.
• 1:08:29
  Oh, OK. But for.
• 1:08:32
  Weeks predating his arrival, the Realms shake in anticipation.
• 1:08:38
  Listen, you can't. I don't know if you can hear.
• 1:08:40
  It the fact that I keep moving around my leg like I'm just, I
• 1:08:43
  can't sit still now. His icon.
• 1:08:46
  Forming carved into the earth of its own accord.
• 1:08:49
  And in the clouds in the sky, statues in the Zierheim,
• 1:08:54
  Sigmar's own city, cry openly tears of blood.
• 1:09:01
  Oh my God. Seers and mages.
• 1:09:04
  All across the realms have horrifying visions of entire
• 1:09:09
  realms cleaved in twain. A city disappears.
• 1:09:16
  Which what? Entirely the city is called. 12
• 1:09:18
  Spires and this is all we know about it.
• 1:09:20
  It's just called 12 Spires and it's.
• 1:09:22
  Gone now. Yeah, this the structures.
• 1:09:24
  Remain, But over the course of a single night, every living
• 1:09:28
  person in it vanishes. Whoa.
• 1:09:31
  With a banner. Of.
• 1:09:32
  Filleted skin hung above the gate, bearing his mark and then
• 1:09:43
  stepping from the realm of Chaos, where he and his best
• 1:09:48
  Knights and their horses. This guy.
• 1:09:52
  Had been waiting. Oh God.
• 1:09:54
  This guy Archaeon. Of the.
• 1:09:56
  Ever chosen? Grand Marshall.
• 1:10:00
  And his Horse of the Apocalypse. This guy?
• 1:10:04
  Yes, Conqueror of Worlds, The Three Eyed King.
• 1:10:09
  Yeah, Grand Marshall of the Apocalypse and his horse
• 1:10:14
  Dorigard. Hot.
• 1:10:18
  Fucking damn yeah this dude is the cover of a metal album
• 1:10:23
  heavily influenced by Norse mythology.
• 1:10:28
  You can see he's wearing the skulls of greater demons around
• 1:10:30
  his neck. Let everyone know their place.
• 1:10:35
  You're right. Archaeon, ever Chosen of the
• 1:10:40
  Apocalypse, reemerges into the Realms, and he has not been
• 1:10:46
  idle. I would, I can't.
• 1:10:48
  Imagine a man like this could be idle.
• 1:10:51
  He. We this is going to be
• 1:10:53
  frustrating for a second. We don't know anything about
• 1:10:56
  what I'm about to say except that it happened in.
• 1:11:01
  The. Potentially millions of years
• 1:11:04
  between the death of the Old World and now Archaeon has led
• 1:11:08
  the conquest of countless other worlds.
• 1:11:12
  What does elaborate? Dalton, I demand elaboration.
• 1:11:15
  What do you mean other worlds? I thought there were no other
• 1:11:17
  worlds. We don't know.
• 1:11:18
  That's literally. All we have, there has to be
• 1:11:19
  other worlds because. The lizard folk traveled through
• 1:11:23
  space. Yeah, we know that.
• 1:11:25
  Sometimes this is planets, this one to.
• 1:11:27
  Planets. That's our best guess.
• 1:11:29
  None of them were as important as like, what's going on here?
• 1:11:32
  A lot of them probably didn't have magic, we get the sense.
• 1:11:35
  And so they just didn't have any.
• 1:11:36
  Yeah. Places RK on conquered in a day,
• 1:11:39
  right? Head of the writers of the
• 1:11:42
  apocalypse, just destroying worlds in the chaos.
• 1:11:46
  God's name, his epitaph, conqueror of 1000 worlds.
• 1:11:51
  Great name and But it hasn't been all roses for Archaeon.
• 1:12:00
  No, it's just been. Flayed flesh banners he, if
• 1:12:04
  you'll. Remember, he didn't really put
• 1:12:08
  his own feet on this path. Yeah, he didn't.
• 1:12:12
  Really. Ask for this necessarily.
• 1:12:14
  It was other people's choices that drove him to be like, fine,
• 1:12:17
  I guess I'm gonna do this. Yeah.
• 1:12:18
  Arcan. Was a victim of fate, and while
• 1:12:21
  he didn't put his feet on the path, he has continued to walk
• 1:12:25
  it. He is a monster by every metric
• 1:12:29
  imaginable, but even he, Chaos's greatest champion, has started
• 1:12:36
  to chafe under the yoke. He.
• 1:12:39
  Signed up to. Get back at the world that
• 1:12:42
  wronged him. Yeah, this isn't that world.
• 1:12:45
  No, none of these are that world.
• 1:12:46
  Yeah, he's conquered 1000. Worlds in the name of chaos Gods
• 1:12:49
  that he couldn't care about. Yeah, he's not here.
• 1:12:53
  For them, he wanted revenge and he got that, Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  And then he had to do a. 1000 worlds of day labor, conquering,
• 1:13:02
  conquering, conquering for the Cascots, knowing that if he ever
• 1:13:05
  stopped he would just be another soul lost to the realm of chaos.
• 1:13:09
  So even he, the most powerful chaos warrior alive, isn't
• 1:13:17
  really in the chaos. Like isn't really feeling what
• 1:13:20
  the chaos gods are handing out. Damn, sounds like someone that
• 1:13:22
  Sigmar can maybe? Talk to I don't know but but.
• 1:13:27
  As soon as he arrives in the Mortal Realms, he knows this
• 1:13:30
  one's different. Because this isn't just some
• 1:13:34
  faceless, nameless worlds the Chaos Gods have brought him to.
• 1:13:38
  Because there are a lot of people who.
• 1:13:40
  Are from that old world who've been working really hard to kind
• 1:13:42
  of make it like the old one was specifically.
• 1:13:45
  There is one person here. Before he was Archaeon the ever
• 1:13:49
  chosen, he was Daedric priest of Sigmar.
• 1:13:55
  Fuck the man who failed Archaeon most.
• 1:13:59
  Oh shit. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
• 1:14:05
  Trepidation Archaeon was feeling about his service to the Chaos
• 1:14:09
  gods. Whatever.
• 1:14:11
  Yeah, whatever. You can throw that at the bottom
• 1:14:13
  of the river. We'll.
• 1:14:13
  Revisit it later. For now, there will be eternity.
• 1:14:17
  To plot his usurpation of the Chaos gods.
• 1:14:22
  This is personal again. Fuck yeah.
• 1:14:30
  And that, I think is where we're going to leave it for Myth into
• 1:14:34
  Chaos. This is still not technically
• 1:14:36
  the start of the Age of Chaos. I would feel like everyone.
• 1:14:42
  Who lives in these worlds would beg to differ.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah, I think they all feel like it's pretty key.
• 1:14:46
  The people that live in the City of the Total Spires.
• 1:14:48
  I mean, they would beg to differ.
• 1:14:49
  We are on. We are on the path for sure over
• 1:14:53
  the next couple of episodes we are going to, I mentioned each
• 1:14:55
  of the emergencies or the next couple episodes, we're going to
• 1:14:58
  go into detail with each of them.
• 1:14:59
  We're going to talk about how specific, specifically corn came
• 1:15:02
  into actually the yeah, yeah, yeah, the.
• 1:15:04
  Mortal champion that. He tempted to open the gate for
• 1:15:07
  him, who has a wonderful name. We'll give you a little spoiler
• 1:15:10
  there. His name is Corgis Cull.
• 1:15:13
  I love him terribly. He's the worst.
• 1:15:16
  We'll talk about each of the chaos.
• 1:15:18
  We'll go a little bit more in depth about each of the
• 1:15:20
  individual chaos gods. We'll talk about their demonic
• 1:15:22
  champions. We get to talk about Kairos Fate
• 1:15:25
  Weaver, my favorite character in a just sigwar.
• 1:15:27
  Do like that very much. Good.
• 1:15:28
  Name Good name? And then will culminate in the
• 1:15:32
  actual event that sets off the Age of Chaos.
• 1:15:36
  Oh, there's a starting. Point there is A to like a very.
• 1:15:39
  Clear moment. In time, Yep, you don't get very
• 1:15:42
  many of those, but that's the assassination of Archdu
• 1:15:45
  Ferdinand, kinda. This is when everything really
• 1:15:47
  broke bad. Yep.
• 1:15:48
  So right now we are in the. In the transitory period, Yeah,
• 1:15:56
  Arcade. I'm sorry.
• 1:15:56
  I just. I love go.
• 1:15:58
  He's a nightmare and I love him. Terrible fucking.
• 1:16:02
  Go suddenly all on board again, right?
• 1:16:04
  Walking the path to glory. Also, his horse is here.
• 1:16:06
  Sorry, all his horse is here. I was.
• 1:16:07
  I remembered the. Horse.
• 1:16:09
  He just asked for his horse. Yeah, I must speak briefly of.
• 1:16:11
  Dorger his horse. Mostly just because I think I
• 1:16:15
  said something incorrect during our like old world episode.
• 1:16:17
  I'm not as well versed in the old world episode.
• 1:16:20
  Also anyone who's mad at me about the last episode, the
• 1:16:22
  things I probably got wrong about in the gash, I'm sorry I
• 1:16:25
  just don't know the old world. I'm not.
• 1:16:28
  But I think in at one point I said the Dorgar was like Arcan's
• 1:16:32
  childhood horse. That is not true.
• 1:16:34
  OK. I'm less invested in this horse.
• 1:16:36
  Relationship now to to. Confirm himself as the ever
• 1:16:40
  chosen the great like proving task that the chaos gods gave
• 1:16:43
  our account was to retrieve the six treasures of chaos.
• 1:16:47
  OK, I thought you were gonna say no.
• 1:16:49
  No, I. Think he did name.
• 1:16:51
  Dorgar after his like childhood horse, but I think that's the
• 1:16:54
  the connection. No Dorgar.
• 1:16:56
  Is 1. Of the treasures of chaos, he
• 1:17:00
  he, he's the steed of the apocalypse.
• 1:17:01
  He's a demon. He's just a demon.
• 1:17:04
  He's just a demon. Who takes the?
• 1:17:05
  Form of a horse, the other treasures of chaos.
• 1:17:09
  I'm going to remember if I can, or I'm going to try and see if I
• 1:17:11
  can remember him off the top of my head.
• 1:17:12
  The armor of Morkar, which Archaeon wears in game, it gives
• 1:17:17
  them a 50% chance to negate all damage.
• 1:17:20
  He's just crazy. The Slayer of Kings is his sword
• 1:17:23
  is a sword that can kill gods because yeah, he's the ever
• 1:17:27
  chosen. The Helm of Damnation which
• 1:17:30
  gives them supernatural presence over like other chaos warriors.
• 1:17:35
  Again in game it makes them fight to the death even if they
• 1:17:37
  don't want to. Dorgar is the 4th, the ever
• 1:17:40
  burning icon of chaos. I want to say those are the
• 1:17:43
  icons that appeared in the sky. Before you appeared, yeah.
• 1:17:46
  And what is the last one? The Ayashirian.
• 1:17:51
  The Ayashirian is blessed by Zinch.
• 1:17:53
  It used to let RK on see the future.
• 1:17:55
  He was one of the two characters in the setting who can see the
• 1:17:59
  future, but it got broken by an orc ore.
• 1:18:05
  Grim Gore Ironhide who we. Talked about in the Gur episode
• 1:18:08
  briefly. He was bound to the wind of Gur.
• 1:18:10
  He was its its Incarnate. He head butt archaeon so hard
• 1:18:14
  once it broke the Ayur Shurian. Oh, that was called the three
• 1:18:18
  eyed. Yeah, Three Eyed King.
• 1:18:20
  But like the two eyed king and. Right, that doesn't really work
• 1:18:23
  anymore. Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  The Ayur Shuri, it still holds some.
• 1:18:25
  Power, but it's not as potent as it used to be.
• 1:18:27
  I'm sorry, broke the future. Seeing Demon eye that's so good
• 1:18:34
  but when arcana merges. Into the realms.
• 1:18:36
  Sorry I'm just going off on Dorgaard because he's great.
• 1:18:38
  When Arcana emerges into the realms, the chaos gods try and
• 1:18:41
  like test his loyalty. They don't want him to like go
• 1:18:45
  Rambo nowadays in a familiar place.
• 1:18:47
  So they send four greater demons to challenge him and he kills
• 1:18:52
  all of them and he feeds their souls to Dorgaard as you would.
• 1:18:56
  Causes them to turn into like a huge 4 headed dragon. 3 headed
• 1:19:00
  dragon. Good, sorry.
• 1:19:03
  Because. Lanesh.
• 1:19:04
  Yeah, it's three because Lanesh can't send a champion because
• 1:19:07
  Lanesh is chained up and the Great Horned Rat does send a
• 1:19:11
  champion and Arcan refuses to fight it because Arcan does not
• 1:19:14
  recognize the Great Horned Rat as a Chaos God, not who he sworn
• 1:19:18
  oath to. But I didn't put it.
• 1:19:23
  In the visual reference. But yeah, Dorigar is a giant 3
• 1:19:26
  headed dragon now. I'll get to see it later.
• 1:19:28
  Oh, for sure. For sure.
• 1:19:29
  But that truly is where we will end this episode.
• 1:19:33
  Next episode we are going to be talking about Korn, the 1st to
• 1:19:36
  emerge, the first to mix the Chaos gods on actually.
• 1:19:40
  But until then, I am your Warhammer aficionado, Dalton
• 1:19:44
  Montgomery. And I'm very smart and I'm.
• 1:19:46
  Starting to think Achilles probably should have stayed
• 1:19:48
  home. Thanks so much for listening.
• 1:19:51
  Bye.