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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane ahead of the NFL Draft tonight 4/25/24 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Mos your Lombardy and Kane. Dude, do you want to give me that
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  funck now? Gotta have it now? Oh yeah, Mom, give it
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  to me now. Oh come on, Leggy, you do the same thing
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  as Moth. You do the same thing. Gotta have it, Leggy.
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  Oh, give me a little free style, Jeff, little freestyle please,
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  no freestyle it fine. I had to try. Jeff legwallp ESPN that gun
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  with us. Hey, Jeff, can I actually gotcha? Hey? Uh?
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  Of course I did what I always do. I read your stories and
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  I perused through your top one hundred uh carefully. I I really tried to
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  learn as much as I could about different guys, guys that didn't know so
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  on and so forth. But look at you go, big. Jeff Legwall
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  says, oh, we got two wide outs going one and two. Not
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  I'm not saying you're you said they're going there. But you have those two
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  guys as the best players in the draft, which I thought was very interesting.
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  And then brock Bauer is the tight end at number three. Just in
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  terms of who are the best football players, you got two white outs at
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  a tight end. I just I find that to be sort of fascinating going
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  into this thing when all the quarterbacks are getting all the hype. By the
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  way, most his fourth rated player from a Donze but that's right, that's
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  right, the wide out out of Washington. Another offensive player there, well,
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  you know, that would be the story of the round tonight. I
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  predict the record for offensive players in the first round of a draft is nineteen.
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  I think it's been done like three times. But some folks think tonight
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  could see twenty one offensive players in the first round, and that would be
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  you know, again a record by two. And it kind of is an
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  indication of this board and kind of where the league is right now in terms
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  of, you know, everybody wants speed, skill position players on offense.
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  You know, the search for points, you know, always always underway.
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  So I think that is the story of the board. This is a thin
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  draft, you know, from about the late fifth on, but the top
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  part of this the first two days of this draft that the offensive firepower is
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  clearly evident and it's weird. But because of that, the Broncos may have
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  a shot if they're interested at one of the best defensive players on the board
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  tonight. Because of that, Jeffer real quick to follow that up, so
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  that means that teams who are not quarterback needy, they are going to get
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  a player, not only a great player early on, but they're going to
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  get value. According to Jeff Legwald, with a guy going seventh or eighth,
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  that should be two or three. Yeah, and I think most that's
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  always the way in drafts that are this This this draft has a real quarterback
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  friends feel about it. You know, whether you want to argue this quarterback
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  class isn't as good as a lot over the last twenty years, and I
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  would argue that frankly, but for whatever reason, the planets are in alignment
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  this year, and any quarterback heavy draft at the top of the board will
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  cause what you're talking about, really really good players to come down the board
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  and get drafted. You know, a few slots where most teams below where
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  most teams had them graded. And you know, I think brought Bowers could
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  be that kind of player. One of the receivers, one of those top
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  three receivers could be one of those players. I mean, if the quarterbacks
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  honestly go one, two, three, which is a pretty rare thing.
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  I think it's only happened three other times in history, then that pushes those
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  guys down the board. Jeah, from what you know right now, what
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  you've heard, do you think the Broncos state at twelve or do they move
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  down? I think, you know, if you're making the pie chart,
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  I think the biggest place is them staying put at twelve because because moving a
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  you got to have a partner willing to move for a price you can live
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  with. And you know that that the board has to fall where it makes
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  sense. You know they're and I will say, you know, I've been
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  a guy that said, if you're going to trade down all of the blue
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  chip players, and in old time scouting, the blue coded player was the
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  highest rated player. That's multiple pro bowler h And in every draft there's probably
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  eight or nine so called blue players at the top of the board and all
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  those players better be gone if you're trading down because the bron I think the
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  Broncos depth chart really means anybody. They take it twelve as a need player
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  and I don't care what position it is. Well, speaking of positions,
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  your colleague Paul Hembo had this. He calculated from the years two thousand to
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  twenty nineteen, so twenty years worth of the draft. In the first round
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  hem bone, hembo h embom bone. But he calculated a hit or miss.
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  He considered a hit a player that signed a second contract with the team
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  that drafted him. By position, every offensive lineman was over fifty percent center,
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  guard, tackle. The worst position out of all of them was wide
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  receiver. Out of seventy seven that were drafted in that time span the first
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  round, only twenty one of those twenty seven percent signed second contracts. Why
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  is that position so volatile when it comes to that, It's always been that
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  way, Ron Wolfe said twenty five years ago. But there are more misses
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  at wide receiver in the first round than any other position in the draft.
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  And I think so much of it is, you know, who's the quarterback,
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  what offense are they in? What conference do they play in? Like
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  an SCC receiver to me, is a safer bet because he plays far closer
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  to NFL defenses week in week out, NFL players week in week out,
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  than receivers do in the other conferences. I mean, you know, I
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  latched for a long time. PAC twelve receivers are untouched, you know,
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  over and over again, and you know, what are you grading? Then?
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  You know it's like seven on seven, you should catch the ball and
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  run like crazy when you have a room. So I think that's the I
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  think there are far more variables about wide receivers in some ways than a lot
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  of the other positions on offense and in old linemen traditionally over the years have
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  played more games than the other guys do. They don't come out as early
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  sometimes as the skill players, so that when when I go through all the
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  players, I look at the game totals are always higher anecdotally offensive lineman.
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  So there's just more data. So I think more data makes better decisions interesting,
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  you know. And to follow that up, when you have these kind
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  of positions, are you somebody that calculates the the value of positions in the
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  draft, for example like tight end. I know we've been over this with
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  with Brock Bowers, but let me take an out of one. Let's say
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  linebacker. Right, if you can find a guy who you think is a
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  eight year starter at linebacker, do you care at number twelve? I don't,
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  but some people do. I mean, and I think a lot of
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  times there is a monetary component, Like I know gms who will tell you,
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  yeah, Bowers is worth a top ten pick, But if you pay
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  him that way, he's already at the top of the tight end pay scale,
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  you know, coming in as a real key because that payscale for a
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  high draft pick at that position is closer to the payscale of established tight ends
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  than it is at other positions. So some teams make that kind of value
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  judgment too. I mean, what what are you gonna have to pay down
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  the road? You know, I have the luxury of talking about these things
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  in a vacuum. I can just say, you know, I believe a
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  really good player is a really good player, and you should just get as
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  many of those as you can and then take your chances. But inside linebackers
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  certainly is one of those positions now in today's league, with everybody playing nickel,
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  you know those are and it comes and goes as offenses and defenses sort
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  of change the way they play from time to time, certain positions fall in
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  and out. I mean, the nickel corner twenty years ago was a spot
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  player and now the guy's a star. So you got you got to look
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  at that all differently. You know where you're at right now, all right,
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  So let's let's lay it out though. I mean, there's last time
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  we're going to have you. I mean, yeah, you say the biggest
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  slice of the play is the Broncos staying at number twelve, And you mentioned
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  that they could have maybe the best or one of the best defensive players in
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  the entire draft waiting for them, Yet we know they need more jam offensively.
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  What do you say they do? Yeah, give me like a give
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  me like a one through three your top picks for them that could be available.
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  Well, you know, and I'll do that. I'm making the assumption
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  with everybody else that quarterbacks are going one, two, three, and then
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  a fourth quarterback's going somewhere in the top ten. So I'll play along,
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  Okay, even though I don't think this class is worth that, I will
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  play along and believe that's going to happen too. Uh So, I think
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  that leaves them really really good offensive or defensive guys. You know, Dallas
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  Turner your adverse and Terry on Arnold, the corner from Alabama. I think
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  those three would be the best three defensive players on the board at that point.
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  And you know, I just think and Byron Murphy from Texas defensive lineman
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  from Texas is another guy to keep an eye on. I think, but
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  those would be the four best defensive players on the board in my book,
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  if the quarterbacks indeed go. But if one of those top three receivers come
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  through, you've got it. You got to take a long look at that.
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  I mean, that's that's extreme value. But again, I think anyone
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  they take at twelve they need. I think we I think too many people
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  are acting like the Broncos are like one quarterback away from that's all they need.
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  I look at this depth chart and I see a team that would be
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  a disaster for a rookie quarterback. Interesting, Now you make a very valid
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  point. Do you think the addition of one's Zach Wilson, and albeit it's
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  just a flyer, non risk. I don't mind the move whatsoever. But
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  does that maybe delay any shot at a quarterback in this draft or will it
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  affect the quarterback play at all? I don't think it affects if they truly
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  believe one of those mid round guys is a future starter, which they said
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  they said last week there are mid round guys they believe could be starters.
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  If they truly believe that, I think the Zach Wilson acquisition is them saying
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  the quarterback that's available at twelve is not worth the twelfth pick. That's what
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  I think they're saying that in all their mock drafts and scenarios that they've done,
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  they don't have a quarterback left on the board that's worth the twelfth pick.
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  Now, I may be wrong, and that's happened plenty, I know,
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  but I think that's what that acquisition says, because and then it doesn't
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  impact if they really, really truly believe that one of those second, third,
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  fourth round guys could be a future starter. That is Jeff lagwelld ESPN
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  dot com again. Find his top one hundred list and watch it along with
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  the draft, because it'll make you smarter, it will. Jeff always appreciate.
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  Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll give you. And he's kind of
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  a local guy. But I undervalued Ricky Rosengarden, the tackle from Washington.
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  I think he's got a shot of going late tonight or early tomorrow. He's
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  done a lot of good stuff. Teams have loved him before the draft,
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  So I just throw that out there. Where's he at right now on your
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  list? I had him at like one ten oh, got very close to
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  getting in for me. So I think he's a Day two guy. But
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  I've talked in the last week or so he's been the real flyer or teams.
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  I guess I should say teams weren't revealing how much they liked him until
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  by this week. So he was on yesterday with the Columbus in Company.
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  He was talking because Tyler coached him at Valor, and that kid sounded very
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  impressive. I listened to that whole interview. I was very impressed by him.
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  He's done so well, and Tayler did ask me about him on the
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  show, and that's I've said what I've said. I that's one he should
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  have I probably should have had him for me h in the seventies, but
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  he could go well before that. I'll tell you there are teams that are
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  interested in him well before that. But I had him at one ten.
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  Jeff Legwell ESPN dot Com joins us every week. As appreciate it, Leggy,
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  thank you you've got police. By the way, Roger Rosengarten's father ended
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  my high school basketball careers, Holy Family, by beating him. You know
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  what, I love this kid, then, I love him. I want
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  the Broncos to take him. I please be a Denver Bronck. Please please,
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