Latest / You Call That Radio? / 'Los Edinburgho' w/ The Folk DRAMA

Transcript

'Los Edinburgho' w/ The Folk DRAMA · You Call That Radio?

• 0:00
  Speaker A: Call that Radio.
• 0:03
  Speaker B: Afternoon and welcome to season six episode two of you Call that Radio's audio podcast now and its seventh year. The good ship YCT has been sailing for a long time now. No adverts, no sponsors, no funding, just powered purely by the generosity of the Patreons who make this Show Possible, the YouTube channel Possible Music, possible events possible. Thank you to you all and I would like to introduce you to our guest, the folk drama. This was recorded mid January right before we invited them to our so called bun supper where we celebrated the official launch of my friends cafe the Seven Sisters. So if you're ever near Salco train station it's right next to it. They did a good tag is to put on a great party and hopefully we'll do it again soon.
• 1:04
  Speaker A: But it was a great night.
• 1:06
  Speaker B: We had my book launch F by magic the words and Lord of the giant babies out now and we had mellow party and these guys one for a man from Edinburgh, a lady Latina from Los Angeles and together they are the folk drama. So ignore anything about me saying come to the Solquist gig because the Solquist gig has been. And it was really good but it's still a very interesting conversation about their whole writing process and the. The gig they just did with Baby Shambles and how they're recording an album with the beautiful South's Paul Gates and.
• 1:50
  Speaker A: Yeah, lots of interesting stories.
• 1:53
  Speaker B: I hope you enjoy this show.
• 2:08
  Speaker A: As you call that radio. We are live with the folk drama and the house.
• 2:14
  Speaker C: Hello.
• 2:16
  Speaker A: Is it still okay to say Happy New Year? Is it getting weird?
• 2:19
  Speaker C: I think so. Happy New Year.
• 2:21
  Speaker A: Happy New Year. Anyway.
• 2:22
  Speaker B: Happy New Year.
• 2:23
  Speaker A: It's. You just have started the year strongly.
• 2:28
  Speaker C: Yeah, we kind of started off trying like try to run really. What did we start with? We did the first thing.
• 2:40
  Speaker D: Well we didn't start anything off with it was more like the. The share of the music that started new single.
• 2:51
  Speaker C: Oh yeah.
• 2:52
  Speaker A: Music play.
• 2:54
  Speaker C: That's right. Yeah that was last Wednesday which was. Which was good kind of unexpected. It was like a last minute thing and he. We met him, Chris Hawkins down at the Baby Shambles gig in Manchester that we're opening for and well we're opening the kind of pre party thing for them and we met him and he kind of in passing he was like I like. I like your song referee. So we thought he was going to play that but he actually played the new one. He got a hold of the new song so it was a pleasant surprise.
• 3:30
  Speaker A: It's not easy to get that six music play.
• 3:34
  Speaker C: No, that's why it was a surprise.
• 3:36
  Speaker A: And it's pretty much all you've got as an independent artist as well because it's not a great deal of any places to. That you deserve to get played or you could get played. It's either just. It's just wildly. It's either nothing or mainstream. And yeah, you need. You need a lot of money to go on Radio 1. That's. You need to pay them off. You need to pay them off big time.
• 4:01
  Speaker C: Well, that's the thing. We have no money. Yeah, we got lucky.
• 4:06
  Speaker A: No, it's. It's great. We used to get played. Tom Robinson used to play us. He was really supportive. He didn't play Everton but you knew you were in with a good chance because he played it before. So I think he was probably listening to every single that we did and he didn't play it because maybe he didn't like it or it didn't fit the show or whatever. But at least you know you're getting listened to every time. I use uploader. We. We didn't get one single last year off on your album. Not even. Not even Radio Scotland. Not even one.
• 4:39
  Speaker C: Really surprised by that.
• 4:41
  Speaker A: Yeah, you'd expect one Radio Scotland or something.
• 4:47
  Speaker C: Your show for that. It was sold out was enough. Yeah, yeah, we were.
• 4:51
  Speaker A: You were at the album lunch. I. But yeah, didn't. Didn't. They didn't get one radio play at all. Obviously. Shout outs to the. That's not to demean the local radio shows that your Cam Glenns and your Sonny governs. They're always really supportive and stuff. And the Salford. Salford FM as well. You know about Salford?
• 5:13
  Speaker C: No, I've heard of it. Not. I don't think we've been played on that well the.
• 5:21
  Speaker A: The area. The. The. The general Manchester area.
• 5:24
  Speaker D: Yes.
• 5:25
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 5:25
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 5:25
  Speaker C: We spent quite a bit of time down there.
• 5:27
  Speaker D: That's where we've recorded.
• 5:28
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 5:29
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 5:31
  Speaker A: And what was. What was that? So the album finished?
• 5:35
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's done now. We finished it up just before Christmas. We've actually still got a couple of mixes to get back but it's done as far as we know. We did it with Johnny Alexis and Sean Kelly. They're Paul Heaton's co writer and kind of seven guy. So we did it with them and no, it's something good. Pretty proud of it.
• 6:01
  Speaker A: And you go on to the. The famous Paul Heaton's list.
• 6:05
  Speaker C: Oh yeah.
• 6:06
  Speaker D: That was the start of the year. Yeah.
• 6:08
  Speaker A: Yes, that's that. That he. He wants. I've been on that list once or Jerry McHale song. In fact, he played his own. Paul Heaton played his own six music once as well. Yeah, yeah, the Jeremy. The Jerry McHale fought my wife song, which. I don't know how that go on the radio, but he asked me for a radio ad that I didn't have one, and he just. He just sort of reversed the word and it just. All. It still sounded like. But somehow got past the. The six music censors. So Shout out is Paul Heaton. Yeah, I try. I think one of my friends sent on your album to him. I don't know if he said it yet, but I was hoping. I. Hoping he'd give it a thumbs up because he. He gave us a quote that he liked us some. You know, I can't remember. He said something really nice.
• 6:52
  Speaker C: Anyway, we bumped into. In the pub. What pub was that?
• 6:58
  Speaker D: We had a. Yeah, a gig that night. And he came.
• 7:01
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that's right.
• 7:02
  Speaker D: Came to the show and he had some words with me about the referee track. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 7:07
  Speaker C: He said.
• 7:09
  Speaker D: He said, nah, I don't like that.
• 7:11
  Speaker A: He doesn't like it like that.
• 7:15
  Speaker D: And then Johnny was like, no, I'll give it another listen. And then he said, okay. He's like, all right. Yeah, it took a while.
• 7:24
  Speaker C: It changed his mind.
• 7:26
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 7:26
  Speaker A: But I find that hard to believe as well. It's such an instantly likable song. I've actually. I was just listening to it again. There's. And I've got. So this was my Christmas present to myself because I had a. A smaller, like, you know, a wee handheld Bluetooth speaker thing that was quite good, but I've left it in my old flat and I keep on forgetting to get it back. So I got myself this. So that's. This is sort of for walks at the beach. My boom box.
• 7:51
  Speaker D: Wow.
• 7:52
  Speaker A: It's decent. It's all right. To be honest, it's complicated. Look at. It's got too many flashing lights, too many tones to tell me certain things, but it's just a job. But I tell you, today was the first day that I had a. I had shower tunes because I've realized I can just play it in the hall and enjoy music while I'm in the shower. So that's. That's a game changer.
• 8:15
  Speaker D: How long does it take to charge up?
• 8:18
  Speaker A: I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out. It tells me. It tells me when it's 70%, 60, 50. So I'm not gonna shout them out because I'm not convinced. But Shower tunes are here. And so Referee, we're gonna play your new single in a little bit as well. But let's actually just play a little bit of referees just for folk that don't. Folk that don't know the folk drama. Here's a wee clip of Referee and then we'll. We will play the. The new single later on, which is completely different. But where's.
• 9:05
  Speaker E: I'm going down that road again. Everybody's claiming it'll be all right even if you're holding on extra tight.
• 9:21
  Speaker C: Sam.
• 9:56
  Speaker A: Referee by the folk drama. Tell us a bit. Tell us about that song. I shared it last night just as the. The advert for the. This the Salty Seaburn. So Coach, that you're playing that we'll see next Friday and the Seven Sisters Cafe and so close. Yeah, it's going to be great. Mellow party. My book launch. But if I figure out how to launch a book, I don't know what that involves.
• 10:23
  Speaker C: You're gonna like read an excerpt.
• 10:25
  Speaker A: Well, I don't have any books left. All right, so I sold it. But I'm gonna get shows to Salamander Street Publishing, her sending me a new box. So I should have a book then. But yeah, I don't know. You've got to kind of stand with your book, I'd imagine. Maybe. Maybe get a spectacle. Maybe I need a pair of spectacles, a pipe. I don't know, I've never had a book before. Yeah, read it, read it. Read something at the book. But I suppose it's about music. This is basically the lyric book with some extra stories. So maybe a better music. Stripped down versions, strip back versions of the song or something. But I shared the. I made a wee video for it to promote the so called Spurn Supper and old Jock Radio got in touch to say it was a brilliant song. Loads of people just love it.
• 11:18
  Speaker D: Amazing.
• 11:19
  Speaker A: So the idea that Paul Heaton didn't like it first is. Is surprising.
• 11:25
  Speaker C: I know. I think it's pretty catchy, you know, I mean, I quite like it.
• 11:28
  Speaker D: But yeah, I don't know.
• 11:29
  Speaker C: I can see it's a wee bit too. Or something. I don't know.
• 11:32
  Speaker F: I don't know.
• 11:32
  Speaker D: But then he like. I think he likes it. You kind of had another listen. He probably. He loves that like Mexico and LA and stuff. And I think he said that it has that sound right. What did he call?
• 11:43
  Speaker A: I've got my Mexico T shirt on.
• 11:46
  Speaker D: Oh, cool.
• 11:48
  Speaker C: So I'm just trying to copy your number down here.
• 11:50
  Speaker D: I love that. Dia de los muertos kind of. Is that a school?
• 11:53
  Speaker A: Yeah, it was the.
• 11:55
  Speaker D: I think.
• 11:56
  Speaker A: I think it was in. I think I got it. Oaxaca or something.
• 12:00
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 12:00
  Speaker A: Oh, no, Mexico City. Actually, it was the. The punk rock marketa.
• 12:09
  Speaker D: Marketa?
• 12:10
  Speaker A: Marketa. See, I'm fluent.
• 12:15
  Speaker D: I don't even know if that's a real word. I just think that's like a Mexican slang.
• 12:20
  Speaker A: Okay. It's the. What's it called? Punk rock marketa. Because we. We did a.
• 12:31
  Speaker C: We.
• 12:31
  Speaker A: I did a wee short film there and I was actually going to get a band T shirt because it's just. It's just loads and loads of band T shirts everywhere for miles. But it was bands, you know, that way. Bands that I respect, bands that I like, but I'm not really into that much lies. And I don't. I would be worried that someone would come up to me and go, name. Name five songs or name 10 songs. But it was. Yeah, this is my. This is my Mexican T shirt, if you notice, as well, in the flyer. I've used the Mexican flag rather than the US flag.
• 13:07
  Speaker D: Yeah, I know.
• 13:09
  Speaker A: The reason I did that is because I've got a friend who I thought was Canadian, but she admitted that she was actually American, but she says she's from Canada now because she's disappointed. And the USA right now.
• 13:26
  Speaker C: Oh, I was born in Canada, but you actually Canadian? My mom's. My mom's from Canada.
• 13:33
  Speaker A: Oh, brilliant. So you could have played for Scotland or Canada.
• 13:36
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 13:38
  Speaker A: Are you. Are you waiting for that World cup call up?
• 13:42
  Speaker C: No, not anymore.
• 13:45
  Speaker A: But what's going to happen at the World Cup? What's going to happen? Will Scotland go to the World cup in the USA the way it is just now?
• 13:55
  Speaker C: Well, I thought so. I mean, supposed to.
• 13:57
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 13:58
  Speaker C: Well, he's, I think, meaning politically, like. Yeah, it's a good question. I think there's something going on. I think he's going to Mexico now as well. Or threatening to, anyway.
• 14:10
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 14:10
  Speaker C: So it's an odd one.
• 14:13
  Speaker A: I've never. I do think it's a good time to. I would maybe hold off buying the flight. The plane tickets.
• 14:19
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 14:19
  Speaker A: And booking the hotels right now.
• 14:22
  Speaker C: Well, he's. He's kind of threatening Canada and Mexico, isn't he?
• 14:26
  Speaker A: So, yeah.
• 14:28
  Speaker C: Leaning on him.
• 14:31
  Speaker A: I don't know, Just sort of testing the waters to see if it goes down well with the fan base, I think. I think just. Anything to change the subject from the. The Epstein Files. So. Oh, you've just sent me the song, the new single. So we're going to go that Tell it. Tell us about the new single.
• 14:52
  Speaker C: Well, it's different. Quite a bit different to like Referee or. The other one was Lonesome Feeling. It's kind of a wee bit. I don't know if grungy is the word to use, but it's kind of more 90s kind of. I'm a big fan of Pavement and Ben Queller and that kind of 90s kind of down. That kind of thing. So we were kind of going along that route with it.
• 15:18
  Speaker D: Yeah. Like Seattle.
• 15:20
  Speaker A: That's exactly what I was going to say. It sounds like Seattle. That was. That's the first thought I had for it.
• 15:28
  Speaker C: But, yeah, I like it and I think John and Sean did a really good job with it.
• 15:33
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker D: I'm really happy with it.
• 15:38
  Speaker C: It's certainly. It's different to the rest of the album, I think.
• 15:42
  Speaker D: I think each. Everyone is different, to be honest. I don't think a lot of them are.
• 15:47
  Speaker C: Yeah. Eclectically. Sorry, I'm trying to find this track decision.
• 15:56
  Speaker A: So do you feel. Is it. When you're making the songs, is there any predetermined thing that you're trying to do or is it just going with the flow?
• 16:12
  Speaker C: We kind of work like we write them and we. With the album. We kind of wrote them and went straight in the studio type thing.
• 16:20
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker C: So the album wasn't like pre written before we went in. We did have Referee, but that. The whole album was spawned from that one song, really. And then we just kind of did it as we went along, if that makes sense. So there was no kind of greater picture of what we wanted it to be, you know, I mean. And there's a couple of songs that didn't quite make the album, which now we're kind of half regretting.
• 16:49
  Speaker D: Well, we're still thinking about it.
• 16:51
  Speaker C: Yeah. Whether they make it on and out. But there's quite. There's one kind of motowny, poppy one that you sing. Yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker D: We wrote a. Like a Motown type song and. Yeah, they really like it. I really like it.
• 17:05
  Speaker C: Maybe it was just me that didn't.
• 17:07
  Speaker D: You didn't like it as much, but I don't think it really fits in. I don't think there's room for it now.
• 17:12
  Speaker A: I think that's album two. Motown.
• 17:17
  Speaker D: A track.
• 17:20
  Speaker A: For one. For one song.
• 17:22
  Speaker C: Yeah. It's a bit random, actually.
• 17:24
  Speaker D: No, there's another one, actually. It's kind of Mot. No, like the Lake Love.
• 17:30
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 17:30
  Speaker D: That's kind like maybe R B a little bit.
• 17:33
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker A: What. It could maybe be one of those sort of songs to a single. While you're working on the second. The difficult second album, as they say. You've just got this Motown banger to keep the fun.
• 17:51
  Speaker C: Yeah, that's pretty good idea, actually.
• 17:54
  Speaker D: We're gonna do that.
• 17:55
  Speaker C: Yeah. To close the gap.
• 17:56
  Speaker A: Yeah. Just to say here. We're still here.
• 17:59
  Speaker C: Yeah. Feed the algorithm and we're not panicking about the second one. Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker A: So have you got a date in mind for the album release?
• 18:10
  Speaker C: Well, we were just talking about that this morning with the. We're kind of in talks with a couple of labels, but nothing's been put in concrete yet. But we think we're going to go with one. One team. And they're looking at October, but we were told April last year. But, yeah, that'll change because, yeah, these things do happen. Everything gets moved forward, as you'll probably know.
• 18:38
  Speaker A: Yeah. And you've got. It's. What is it, Becky? I've got a song called Back in Them Back.
• 18:43
  Speaker B: That's.
• 18:43
  Speaker A: That's right. Was that a wav you sent me?
• 18:46
  Speaker D: Yeah, it's a lesson in letting go.
• 18:49
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker D: Is that okay?
• 18:51
  Speaker A: It's maybe a wave fail. It's maybe just not. It's fine. I'll figure it out.
• 18:56
  Speaker C: Is that okay?
• 18:57
  Speaker A: It's fine. I'm gonna just.
• 18:59
  Speaker B: I'll just convert it.
• 19:01
  Speaker A: But, yeah, I. It's.
• 19:03
  Speaker C: You're.
• 19:05
  Speaker A: You're told April, but obviously we're now in January, so you can't really release an album, and April, we can. I mean, this time last year, we were finishing the album to release in March 28, because that's the only way that an album would ever get finished for me. She actually announced the album launch party, and against me, the rest of the band and the producer, it makes us work very fast. I would like. I would like to be one of those bands that just sat on an album for a year, and then I'm.
• 19:40
  Speaker C: Finding it really difficult doing that. I'm getting really quite impatient. But, you know, you try. You try to, like, listen to everyone's. Everyone's got a good point, you know, and no one. And at the end of the day, people are spending money on it. So you've kind of got to. You've got to keep them calm and. Because then people start worrying about they might lose this and that, you know? But, yeah, I do get kind of niggly out. I kind of want it out because you can. You can sit and remix stuff forever, you know.
• 20:12
  Speaker A: Well, there's a. There's a famous. Well, a song is never Finished. It's only abandoned. It was Adam Homes that I had seen that first, but I think he was quoting something for the 50s or 60s or something. But, yeah, it's never finished. It's only abandoned. But the longer you sit with the same thing you don't want, you end up getting sick of it before it's even been released.
• 20:38
  Speaker D: Yeah, true.
• 20:39
  Speaker C: I mean, there's excited.
• 20:41
  Speaker A: So you're just listening to over and over again.
• 20:43
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. There's songs in the album I completely forgot we're on them because we spend so much time concentrating on like referee or whatever.
• 20:50
  Speaker D: Yeah, that's true.
• 20:51
  Speaker C: And then you forget that there's this wee song in the corner there that's quite nice, you know, but. Yeah, well, I'm just glad it's done, really. I won't be recording anything again on it.
• 21:06
  Speaker D: Yeah, it's true, though.
• 21:07
  Speaker C: You can go sing all you want. I'm not going to.
• 21:10
  Speaker D: I don't mind.
• 21:12
  Speaker A: It's really.
• 21:13
  Speaker C: Did you.
• 21:13
  Speaker A: When you're. So you just. You're done with the recording just now, you're just looking forward to getting out.
• 21:19
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker A: You should do a good job with your social media stuff. You said there. Every day almost feels like every day you're in there with the, like making the content, which is what I've been trying to get better at as well.
• 21:36
  Speaker C: It's kind of. Basically, I kind of sit and do it, do it and you do a bit as well. But it's. I'm just. I just put up anything really, you know, anything we've recorded. I mean, there's a lot of like sitting on trains and all that stuff. But, you know, if it's got the song on it, then I'm happy to stick it up. And I like a clip of the song. It's just. There's so much out there that. And there's loads of great stuff as well that you just want to keep people kind of thinking about it or, you know, Referee is quite catchy. So I like putting that one up because then people remember it. But yeah, it's not to. You know, I stopped caring about like Spotify streams and all that. It doesn't really bother me anymore. Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker A: It's just a straight. It's definitely a strange time that we're in that way in that regard because we made a music video march. I think a fancy man shows man Mindy Bank.
• 22:37
  Speaker C: We did a.
• 22:38
  Speaker A: We did a lot of work went into making a music video and then you're like. The amount of effort and the days of filming and editing that you put into it. Are we beyond the music video or is it just a phase? Because you seem to get like. I put one other day and it was just me at the beach watching a sunrise and then speeded it up. And I think that gets us as many views as an actual complicated music video.
• 23:08
  Speaker C: Yeah. To like anything can be effective, you know what I mean?
• 23:14
  Speaker D: So it's good. It's good music, you know, and then it attracts people.
• 23:17
  Speaker C: So, yeah, as long as the songs are. Yeah, I think. But yeah, I was saying that to you this morning. Like, I'm not even going to look at Spotify anymore. And I don't bother even looking at numbers on the videos or anything because I think what's really important is now as if it's coming across kind of genuine. Genuine. Yeah. Authentic kind of thing. Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker D: Someone was just saying that last night about that. Like just keep doing it because I really enjoy. And it comes off like authentic, you know, and it makes. It makes them happy.
• 23:54
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker D: To see these videos pop up is. I just keep. Keep doing it because I enjoy.
• 23:59
  Speaker C: So that's another thing we're terrified to do. We've not done a headline gig yet and we've been kind of pushing our kind of music for about a year now, but because we were terrified of ticket sales, you know, if that's the truth be told, that guy was. And I just don't really care anymore. Do you know, whoever wants to go, you know.
• 24:21
  Speaker A: Yeah, I think the. I think the trick to that is it's just. It's not like I was talking to a friend who's got an album coming out soon and they're looking at doing venues. I think the trick is just not trying to going. Going one volume one venue down or a couple of venues down than what you think you would like to do.
• 24:42
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker A: Just because the stress of try to sell it something that's too big is too much. But there's something really cool about just. Especially if you've not done a headline gig before, just picking a venue that you. Even if you don't sell out, it's just going to feel nice and cozy and busy.
• 24:58
  Speaker C: Yeah, totally. It's about enjoying the night.
• 25:01
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker C: Everyone that spent money on the ticket will have a great night.
• 25:04
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker C: That's the most important thing, of course.
• 25:06
  Speaker D: But we also don't want to play to an empty room.
• 25:10
  Speaker C: We've worked really hard over the last year to not have that happen.
• 25:14
  Speaker D: So. Yeah, that's true. It's definitely.
• 25:17
  Speaker A: Well, we did. I've done empty room before I've ever played. Today was Shout outs Trin. Shout outs to Trin Town Hall. That was the emptiest room, the biggest, grandest room. Probably one of the. The most beautiful rooms. But yeah, it was a thing called Live at True and shows the organizer. This isn't a go anyone by the way.
• 25:39
  Speaker C: It was.
• 25:39
  Speaker A: It's just. It's here. So sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But there was like all these good. Well, not good. Everyone's good. It was bigger names on the Friday and bigger names on the Saturday. Names you would know. Not huge names, but names you would know. And then the Sunday it was kind of like up and coming bands and yeah, they was there. They do. I think there's maybe six people in the crowd and I don't know, some of them may have even worked for the. I don't know. But that was. That was an interesting experience because it's such a big room. It felt like a sound check or something.
• 26:16
  Speaker C: Right.
• 26:17
  Speaker A: And then we get flung off stage for singing a song called the Something Rang Bears Her. But they didn't know that I was from Airshow so they thought I was being airship. But I'm allowed to be because I'm originally from there.
• 26:33
  Speaker C: We've luckily not done an empty room yet. But like it will happen. Sure. But like last night we were down in London, we were doing the marquee and it was a full house, you know.
• 26:43
  Speaker D: Yeah, it's always pretty busy there.
• 26:45
  Speaker C: Yeah. And focus singing along and stuff. So that was great. And then I suppose you can go to. You go. You come home and then play to less people. You know, it's just up and down. There's no predicting it.
• 26:59
  Speaker A: Yeah. Because you should been keeping busy by doing lots of, you know, everything from open mic nights to supporting bands and just sort of just really getting your. Perfecting your live. Your live sound.
• 27:11
  Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. And just getting comfortable with songs and what we're putting across and. Yeah, it's been. I think the last year has been really good for us. I think we're better what we're doing.
• 27:26
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker C: When we started 100.
• 27:28
  Speaker D: Loads of practice, you know, experience.
• 27:31
  Speaker C: Yeah. Was it 10,000 hours? A thousand hours or something?
• 27:35
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, 10. I think it's 10,000 hours. You need to do your 10,000 hours, which I'm sure you didn't do 10,000 hours this year, but no accumulated accumulatively. Accumulatively you have done your 10,000 hours and. Could you just tell us the story? I just. I was just reading Your bio earlier on. Do you want to tell us the story about how you met?
• 28:00
  Speaker C: It was just before lockdown a couple days before and it was in a pub.
• 28:06
  Speaker D: Yep.
• 28:07
  Speaker C: Yeah, just we had mutual friends and we didn't realize.
• 28:13
  Speaker D: And then it's the pub you drink to for. For cheap drinks before you go and play cheap doubles next door.
• 28:20
  Speaker C: When I was. When I was a drinker. But you still.
• 28:24
  Speaker A: You're still sober?
• 28:25
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker A: Congratulations, man. That's a. What was. You were off, is that two years?
• 28:31
  Speaker C: No, 11 months. I've been sober for again. It got. I took quick but poorly. I took quite ill with it. I was drinking far too much, you know, and then gotta be. Gotta be wake up call. So that's been me sober since. Since then. But. So I don't. I really think about it now. That's quite good. First few months were kind of white knuckling it, you know, but it's fine, especially with the.
• 28:59
  Speaker A: Especially performing and stuff. So how. How did it feel to do the gigs sober compared to now when you first started doing it? Because I'm assuming you're.
• 29:09
  Speaker C: You're.
• 29:10
  Speaker A: You were just sort of like just in the habit of having a wee drink before you went on stage and stuff.
• 29:14
  Speaker C: That's right. I mean, I wasn't playing junk or anything going on stage, but like I got too comfortable with.
• 29:20
  Speaker D: With having a drink and performing.
• 29:23
  Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. But I thought it was anxiety in that. And then when I stopped drinking, you know, and you have no choice because I. That wasn't an option for me to start up again.
• 29:34
  Speaker D: So you realize that the alcohol was the anxiety.
• 29:37
  Speaker C: Yeah, that didn't help.
• 29:38
  Speaker A: Yeah, but I just got causing the cure of all problems as homeless. Absence is exactly.
• 29:45
  Speaker C: I enjoyed at the time. But it was kind of. You just get on with it. It's like my dad kind of put it in a decent way to me. He was just like, well, when you walk home, what you're gonna do? Run off or you just gotta get on with it. So I just got on with it. And then you get used to it like anything else. And then you actually end up enjoying it, you know, I enjoy it more than I did when I was drunk.
• 30:09
  Speaker D: It's like a natural high. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:13
  Speaker A: You feel you can actually. You actually get an adrenaline rush. I didn't realize that. I mean, obviously I still have a wee. Maybe I drink before I go on stage most of the time, to be honest. But I remember the first few years we were going. We were going on stage actually wasted from war. Young and there was no. We weren't getting any rush. And then I think once we had to do it by default because the promoter and Leeds wouldn't give us any. Wouldn't even pay us one beer. Wouldn't give us any money. So we had to go on stage. And then I was like, wow, this isn't. You know, when I came off stage, it was like, that is some rush.
• 30:48
  Speaker D: Okay.
• 30:50
  Speaker C: Yeah, I know what you mean. Like those first gigs. But I was sober. Well, I was kind of paranoid because I wasn't looking too well because of it. So I had that to deal with. So it was kind of like a distraction, you know, I didn't want people to see my yellow eyes or whatever. So, like, I kind of. There was distractions there. So my nerves kind of took a back seat, weirdly. But, yeah, times of humor and my nerves kind of settled and I'm fine now. I don't think about the nerves before going. I still get a wee bit jittery.
• 31:26
  Speaker A: But that's good, though. That's. It's good to have a little bit. And so you. So you just made two days before lockdown, and then the world changed forever.
• 31:35
  Speaker D: Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker C: Yeah, we did. We. I was standing flat in the goggles, and you just said, why don't you just move in here?
• 31:51
  Speaker D: Because it was like a big, bigger property, obviously. A basement flat.
• 31:55
  Speaker C: Yeah, okay. You know, and I was kind of. I was actually in the process of moving out my flat anyway, so it was in between. So I kind of just jumped ship and moved in with Villa and the rest is history.
• 32:06
  Speaker D: And then we started doing live streams.
• 32:09
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker D: Casting time.
• 32:11
  Speaker C: Yeah. Songwriters have kind of came up, and then that kind of grew legs a wee bit because we got, like, some random viewers on it. Like, you know, Ryan Adams, you know, the singer. Yeah. He jumped on a couple of. A couple of our lives and stuff. So that kind of attracted a few people. And then the numbers started going up. Yeah. Then they came down again, you know, naturally.
• 32:34
  Speaker A: But, yeah, there was. Yeah, that's the. There was the. The highs and then the lows of the logged. And then people started going into live music again. Well, most of them did. Some of them did. Some of them haven't. Yeah. Some of them haven't came back. Some of them. I don't know if it's maybe our. My age demographic, people I know, but some people, I think just went, I can't wait. Just sitting in the house and, you know, takeaway. And I've not seen them. I've not seen them at.
• 32:59
  Speaker C: Since.
• 33:00
  Speaker D: Oh, wow.
• 33:01
  Speaker A: But the. I've got. I think I've got the song there. Hold on, let me just check. Is that. Can you hear that?
• 33:08
  Speaker C: No. Wrong song.
• 33:11
  Speaker A: No. Can you not hear it?
• 33:13
  Speaker C: No, No, I can't hear it. Wow.
• 33:23
  Speaker D: Is it going headphone?
• 33:26
  Speaker F: Yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker A: Let us know in the comments if you can hear that. But I was. You know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna just play off YouTube and see how.
• 33:35
  Speaker B: How bad.
• 33:36
  Speaker A: Hopefully it's not tiny. Hopefully it's not today. Let's try it that way. Can you introduce us to the song what's it all about?
• 33:45
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's called the Lesson in Letting Go. Yeah, it's kind of. That kind of. We kind of grew up in the 90s. Later 90s, early 2000s is kind of more of that sound. Like I was saying before, I'm a big Pavement fan and stuff like that. So we thought we'd go and do what we listen. Listen to naturally, you know, because I always turn to those kind of bands to listen to walking around Sainsbury's or something. Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker A: Okay, let me know. Give me the thumbs up if you can hear this. Okay.
• 34:20
  Speaker C: Yeah, I can hear that one. Sure.
• 34:37
  Speaker F: What a sound on your wayward sunlight you won't believe it.
• 34:46
  Speaker E: Wishing you fun and it CR of the season.
• 34:54
  Speaker F: You believe.
• 34:59
  Speaker A: And all the.
• 35:00
  Speaker F: Kids are breaking out of school and you are remaining.
• 35:08
  Speaker A: And all the kids.
• 35:09
  Speaker F: Are breaking out of school and you Nobody feeling.
• 35:16
  Speaker C: You.
• 35:29
  Speaker F: It's a lonely land never letting go. Sunlight you were out creeping while the.
• 35:57
  Speaker E: Town were dressing down you will believe.
• 36:02
  Speaker C: It.
• 36:05
  Speaker F: You believe in all the kids are breaking out of school and you are remaining. All the kids are breaking out of school and you know that feeling. You know that feeling.
• 36:31
  Speaker C: It's a long.
• 36:35
  Speaker F: Letting go It's a long. Relax.
• 37:17
  Speaker A: The folk drama with a lesson in letting go. I love it. Love it.
• 37:24
  Speaker C: Oh, nice.
• 37:25
  Speaker A: Something. I can't quite put my finger on it, but as Seattle is, if you. I don't know, it feels like. Yeah, it's got. It's just got a classic, it seems. It's got that classic sliced it. Ali Grant's in the house. The vocals work well together. Jigsaw Tiger. Yep. Song was playing, so that's weird. They could hear the song, but you couldn't hear it the first time. Colin's here as well, so I don't know what's going on. And if you're listening to this on the audio podcast, then I'll have swapped out that version for a. A proper wav file of that. So the song's out now. It's on all the places.
• 38:04
  Speaker C: Yeah, it should be on Spotify.
• 38:08
  Speaker D: Itunes.
• 38:09
  Speaker C: Itunes or let's do distro kids.
• 38:12
  Speaker D: YouTube.
• 38:13
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, that was just played off YouTube music and I listened to it when I was listening to my shower tunes earlier on. It was in my shower playlist. So, yeah, it's on Spotify as well. And you got. Have you got a band camp as well? Can people get it on band camp or you just going for the streaming?
• 38:29
  Speaker C: Actually, we've been. So we've been really slow with band camp. We're still meaning to set one up. Shocking. But we're on that now.
• 38:38
  Speaker D: Yeah, I think we started it and then we just didn't end up.
• 38:42
  Speaker C: Something happened. Yeah, he kind of locked us out or something. But we're getting all that sorted though. So, yeah, it will be up soon.
• 38:51
  Speaker A: Yes. So I didn't. I don't want to put you in the spot here, but you were talking about you did the live streams and all that. Here we are in a live stream. Would you give us an exclusive?
• 39:00
  Speaker C: Yeah, of course.
• 39:01
  Speaker D: Okay.
• 39:02
  Speaker A: Amazing. Amazing.
• 39:03
  Speaker C: Here we go.
• 39:04
  Speaker A: It's live. And then while we are getting set up, I just want to give a shout out to the gig. The Salty Sea Buns Salty seaburn supper on 23 January, featuring the folk drama. You're with us today. Also, Mellow party and I'll be doing my book launch shift by magic. Book launch, Whatever that will be. I don't know, but I'll figure it out between now and then. But what we have figured out is haggis neaps and tatties and the vegetarian option if you're that way inclined. It's a tenner that includes your. Your meal. And just bring your own bottle as well. So it's a cheap night in the sh. And there be. There's already more tickets sold for this than there was that time we played the TR hall, which is a thousand cap venue. So it's. And it shows to Jess, who runs the Seven Sisters Coffee House. She used to be in my band, an excellent viola player. So hopefully she'll. She'll bring the fiddle of the viola as well. And maybe a piper. Hopefully a piper as well, because it's an alternative burn supper. But we want a little bit of the traditional thing. Have you. Have you been to. Have you been at a burn supper before?
• 40:17
  Speaker C: Yeah, I've been quite a few. Yeah, we used to have them. I grew up in Edinburgh, so every year we were doing something I Think.
• 40:27
  Speaker D: I did maybe once.
• 40:29
  Speaker A: And how does. How does LA compare to Scotland for the Christmas. For Christmas, New Year and stuff like that? Is it a different vibe or is there similarities?
• 40:40
  Speaker D: It doesn't. In la, to be honest. It doesn't feel like Christmas because it's like sunny, warm, like. You don't get those kind of Christmas vibes.
• 40:49
  Speaker C: It's just on the beach.
• 40:51
  Speaker D: Yeah. But we still celebrate it. You know, I. I love Christmas here more.
• 40:56
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker D: Yeah, you do.
• 40:57
  Speaker C: More like for.
• 40:58
  Speaker D: Yeah, we. We do a lot of Thanksgiving celebration. Yeah, I think we. Because we have that one before Christmas. I think by the time.
• 41:07
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker D: I don't know.
• 41:09
  Speaker A: Sunday roast vibes. What is a Thanksgiving dinner?
• 41:12
  Speaker D: So it's just a big feast normally. The turkey decor on the cob, that's like the tradition, you know, the mash, pumpkin pie and anything else.
• 41:23
  Speaker A: Pumpkin pie. See that? I've never even seen a pumpkin pie.
• 41:27
  Speaker C: It's my favorite.
• 41:31
  Speaker A: So you actually like it? Yeah, it's a good thing.
• 41:36
  Speaker D: Yeah, we have to make it because you guys don't sell that here. No, make it.
• 41:40
  Speaker A: I think you can probably get pumpkin pie vapes.
• 41:44
  Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker A: But probably. Probably can. Anyway, guys, the folks are my life. So let's get a song live just now and I'll put a link to your. To your Spotify in the comments for anyone who's want to give you some. Follow.
• 41:59
  Speaker C: Great. What's all your fun to do? Well, we've played like referee. We played.
• 42:07
  Speaker D: We can do the lesson letting go.
• 42:09
  Speaker C: Oh, that's kind of just played.
• 42:11
  Speaker D: Oh, I see. Something from the album.
• 42:19
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker D: Okay, let's think. Which. Well, I know, but we've got so many songs that aren't even on the album.
• 42:29
  Speaker C: All right. Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker D: Like the first ones, for example. Sunset trees there.
• 42:35
  Speaker C: Oh, I could do that. Yeah. Okay.
• 42:39
  Speaker D: Yeah, do that. Okay.
• 42:41
  Speaker C: Okay. This song didn't quite make the album.
• 42:44
  Speaker D: Exactly.
• 42:45
  Speaker C: Yeah. Basically Violeta sings on all the songs in the home.
• 42:51
  Speaker D: Wasn't my choice.
• 42:54
  Speaker C: This is one I did sing until I got brutally sad. Sacked. Sacked from the hole. Just basically just used my songs and told me that song. So this is called Sunset Chaser and I'll check his singing tune. Got that.
• 43:21
  Speaker F: Love you more than Jesus can love you now Shouting me I met you when I was a child Started drinking heavy we went running while you. It's my story now I hate you more than a different can hate you now Shout TW. As long as I knew you enough it matters not for me the cut that loves Sam. Keep coming to Country House, baby Never really have to be I wonder. Choice to leave Playing that game of.
• 45:17
  Speaker C: Me.
• 45:26
  Speaker D: Think of me.
• 45:33
  Speaker F: The sons of Jesus got me I come down. Bus Think I'm f you think of me.
• 45:54
  Speaker A: Magic. Superb stuff. The folk drama live on your call out radio. What's that song called?
• 46:01
  Speaker C: Called Sunset Chaser.
• 46:03
  Speaker A: Sunset Chaser album Hopefully October so gig January 23rd. Anything else coming up?
• 46:13
  Speaker C: We've got. Well so then we've got the. Yeah, we're playing up the Market Bar in verness on the 30th.
• 46:23
  Speaker A: Still got the venue up the stairs.
• 46:25
  Speaker C: Yeah. It's a good night though actually. It's good, yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker A: It's a. It's a. They're all. They were all dead nice to us when we were up there a few years because a while back now before lockdown.
• 46:34
  Speaker C: It's good fun.
• 46:36
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 46:38
  Speaker A: Have you played the airshow before? Is this your first time in Ayrshire?
• 46:41
  Speaker C: First time.
• 46:42
  Speaker A: Oh, brilliant. Nice one. Usually good. It's not always true. In town hall Jess. Jess runs a good shop so it's looking like it's going to be good. Jigsaw Tiger says lovely song.
• 46:55
  Speaker C: Oh thank you.
• 46:57
  Speaker A: So and so it's anything else to plug.
• 47:01
  Speaker C: I think that's it for now. We're just getting the, the dates through and stuff. We have been as far as know we've been booked for Kendall Colin this year which is good.
• 47:11
  Speaker A: That's. That's great. That's a big lineup. The every. Well, I've not actually seen the line up this year but it's always a. A big, big names on that.
• 47:18
  Speaker C: Yeah, we're really looking forward to that one. And we just got back from the Merch market down in London.
• 47:24
  Speaker A: You know he brushed over the fact that he played with Baby Shambles. Tell us about that.
• 47:29
  Speaker C: Yeah, well it was kind of last minute thing and it was in Manchester and yeah, it was a good gig. Played with a guy called Max Bianco is really. He's doing good stuff right now. London and there's a lineup.
• 47:44
  Speaker D: There was a lot of artists.
• 47:45
  Speaker C: Yeah it was quite a few on the bill afternoon thing.
• 47:49
  Speaker D: I think it went on to like 6, 7pm yeah it was kind of adding the clothing, the show. Yeah, Pete performed well.
• 47:58
  Speaker A: That's good. He. That was good that he turned up. He seems to be doing all right the last couple of years.
• 48:02
  Speaker C: Yeah, he was looking really well.
• 48:07
  Speaker A: We've nearly had Adam on the show a few times. Adam Fay, Baby Shambles. He's always saying that he's up, he's up for it but we've never quite made it work, but I loved. I loved that. Well, the album Forever and stuff. That album when it came out was. Was brilliant.
• 48:21
  Speaker C: I think that's the first one.
• 48:23
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Great album. And then just obviously he's been on Libertines duties for the last couple years.
• 48:31
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 48:31
  Speaker C: Yeah. I hear that they've got a new album coming.
• 48:33
  Speaker D: So they'll be in Kindle calling.
• 48:35
  Speaker C: Are they?
• 48:36
  Speaker D: Yeah, there'll be Liberty teams will be playing that one.
• 48:39
  Speaker A: We seen them play Lindisfarm. Is it last. Last year or was it the year before? No, it wasn't Linda's fan. It was Soul Fest. So that wouldn't have been last year. That would have been 2024. And they were on the Sunday night and they came on very, very late. The crowd. The crowd when they. It was raining and they came on quite late. But it was still good fun, still get back. But the thing is I was kind of spoiled because I'd seen them play. The bar is a couple of months before that. So the bars was just epic and everybody's singing along and it was like.
• 49:11
  Speaker C: That'S a perfect venue for them.
• 49:13
  Speaker A: Yeah. All the middle aged people reliving their youth. It was. It was bonkers. So it was Soul Fest in the Rain couldn't really compare, especially the fact they were a bit weight. But it was a good tunes. Good tunes.
• 49:27
  Speaker C: Yeah. So that was fun though.
• 49:28
  Speaker D: Yeah, really cool. The.
• 49:31
  Speaker A: So I put the link tree on the. If everyone goes. Follows the link tree, you've got that. You're on Instagram. You're on.
• 49:37
  Speaker C: Where are you?
• 49:37
  Speaker A: Where, where are you? Can people get you?
• 49:40
  Speaker C: Well, Instagram's the kind of one we focus the most on for like videos now. But you can get us on all of them, really.
• 49:47
  Speaker D: Tick tock.
• 49:47
  Speaker C: Yeah, Tick tock. We're trying that.
• 49:51
  Speaker A: Yeah, I'm trying that as well. It's not working out for me very well. But what I've decided to do is rather than just ignore it completely, I'm just taking the reels that. Because I'm posting my reels on Facebook and Instagram at the same time. Yeah, yeah, exactly though it doubles your views so you feel what you're doing well. And then I might as well just stick it on Tick Tock as well. And YouTube shorts. It just the same hang on all the different channels we're doing exactly that, you know.
• 50:16
  Speaker C: And Facebook was a shame on that as well.
• 50:19
  Speaker D: But YouTube surprisingly does really well with the shorts.
• 50:23
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean I just posted just using your song and the little advert for the.
• 50:29
  Speaker B: The gig.
• 50:30
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 50:31
  Speaker A: That's about a thousand views. So I. I think it's because people are. People are doing scrolling so in order to get someone to watch like a long term content. So somebody will look at this and they'll go oh that's an hour long interview. So they need to be ready for that commitment. Flower shorts. Just like oh there we go. There's another one and another one.
• 50:52
  Speaker C: It's a tick tock was kind of. We got a huge big. We got thousands, thousands of them. Like first video and then I got hooked on it so I kept posting them and I wasn't getting anything.
• 51:07
  Speaker A: Now I'm just beginners luck. Beginners look.
• 51:10
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 51:10
  Speaker D: It's like gambling.
• 51:11
  Speaker C: Yeah. It's like a puggy in a pug or something.
• 51:14
  Speaker D: I'll get that thousand again. Yeah I'll get that hit again.
• 51:18
  Speaker C: Well I've been. I've been near but not quite but I don't know where I'm going wrong with it because it's the same kind of exact same thing as what got loads of the views and you know.
• 51:29
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 51:30
  Speaker C: And we do all right on Instagram and it's the exact same video. So I cannot work.
• 51:35
  Speaker D: TikTok has a younger crowd. I don't know.
• 51:38
  Speaker A: I don't know but you're right as a poggy. The Internet is a poggy. I think I heard someone say it's like they turned the library into a casino. They're just stealing all the dopamine phase. As we search for the next hit.
• 51:55
  Speaker C: That's right.
• 51:56
  Speaker A: Is there any. Is any bands that you'd like to show is who is anyone that you're. That you've been playing me recently or you've enjoyed or you're looking forward to seeing who's your tips for 2026?
• 52:08
  Speaker C: I think Max Bianco, he's kind of become a pal of ours. A guy from London. I think he's kind of tipped to do quite well. Yeah his songs are certainly good enough. Who else? I like loads of people.
• 52:27
  Speaker D: You do you like the band we played with just after Christmas Sleazies.
• 52:36
  Speaker C: Oh yeah. Too great. And the Hazy Sundays.
• 52:40
  Speaker A: Yeah that's. It's mad that you mentioned the Hazy Sundays. My only other guest this year so far was Prestige and that's who his tip was as well. The Hazy Sundays.
• 52:50
  Speaker C: Yeah I like Sean the singer, a really nice guy and invited us to play now it's kind of like I kind of wish to see that kind of lady kind of Manchester thing. But the they're really good, really catchy songs. I like them. Like them a lot. And it's a great night out. Just good to see them.
• 53:08
  Speaker D: It was fun. Yeah, it was a great show.
• 53:11
  Speaker C: Yeah. It's a night out kind of thing, so, yeah, I look forward to seeing them again.
• 53:15
  Speaker A: And they supported Baby Shambles at the last minute as well.
• 53:19
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 53:21
  Speaker A: So that's crazy. And there's no connection there?
• 53:25
  Speaker C: No, I think he. Sean was saying he just turned up to the gig and someone knew someone and he ended up singing that. So I think Pete Doherty kind of works that way. He just kind of. If you ask him to play, I think he can get on quite easily.
• 53:38
  Speaker A: But he's just winging it on vibes.
• 53:41
  Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. I think if. I think if he likes you, then. But that's the two that spring to mind. Who do you think?
• 53:52
  Speaker D: That's who I thought. Easy Sundays.
• 53:54
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 53:54
  Speaker D: He's also Latino. He said his mom was.
• 53:58
  Speaker C: Did he?
• 53:59
  Speaker D: I'm American. Did I. Did you not say that?
• 54:02
  Speaker C: I didn't say that. What? I think he said that.
• 54:06
  Speaker D: He said that? Yeah.
• 54:08
  Speaker C: Why did I say that?
• 54:09
  Speaker D: You told me because I couldn't hear. It was so loud in there.
• 54:13
  Speaker C: Oh, maybe it is.
• 54:14
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker C: If he's not Sean. Sorry.
• 54:16
  Speaker D: I'm sorry. I assumed.
• 54:19
  Speaker C: She thinks everyone's Mexican.
• 54:22
  Speaker A: Look there. I think they are, obviously, because I've lived in Mexico. I've just been every. There's a lot more Mexican links than. Than you think in. In Scotland.
• 54:32
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 54:35
  Speaker D: There's a Mexican community I don't know about now. Maybe they've grown. I haven't met them. I only met, honestly, one Mexican.
• 54:47
  Speaker C: It was like inside the brutal shop.
• 54:48
  Speaker D: No, it was a club. Like, it was like, for other Latinos to meet. It was like community for Latinos trying to get in touch with other Latinos, you know, because you don't want to lose your Spanish and your culture.
• 55:03
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker A: Well, one of my best friends, he actually met his Latino Latina wife now and she's from Argentina.
• 55:13
  Speaker D: Oh, cool.
• 55:14
  Speaker A: And she's just moved to Scotland. They've got two kids all over, locked in a lot. Another lockdown love story. Another lockdown Latina love story.
• 55:25
  Speaker D: So she was already here.
• 55:27
  Speaker A: So I think they met just before lockdown. He was in Argentina and then she came to visit, but she was only allowed to stay for a couple of months. And then he just proposed her so that she could stay. And so I just thought. I just thought it was a visa thing they were doing. But then two children later. No, they're in it for the long haul. So.
• 55:49
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker A: So the reason I mentioned that is because there was an Argentina runners club or something and I think it was all the Argentinians got together.
• 55:58
  Speaker D: Oh, right. Okay.
• 55:59
  Speaker A: To go running or doing something like that.
• 56:02
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 56:02
  Speaker A: I was going to say Bowen, but it wasn't Bowen. But, you know, it was something like that. Just to get everyone I meet up.
• 56:08
  Speaker D: Yeah. I don't know many Argentinians, so. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 56:13
  Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe like a wee. Well, I was actually there for a wee barbecue at Kelvin Grove park and it was like I met the gang. They're all dead nice.
• 56:21
  Speaker C: There seems to be quite a community.
• 56:24
  Speaker D: Well, there is. Of like different parts, but not one.
• 56:27
  Speaker A: Mexican in one Mexican.
• 56:29
  Speaker C: Again.
• 56:30
  Speaker A: Is that you?
• 56:31
  Speaker D: No, it was me and his wife was Scottish.
• 56:34
  Speaker C: Right.
• 56:35
  Speaker D: So I think. Yeah, she speaks fluent Mexican.
• 56:38
  Speaker C: Well, your mom's Salvadorian.
• 56:39
  Speaker D: My mom's from El Salvador, actually.
• 56:41
  Speaker A: Oh, God.
• 56:42
  Speaker D: Yeah. But I've never been, so I'm more in touch with the Mexican.
• 56:46
  Speaker C: The second is Escobar.
• 56:48
  Speaker D: Escobar. She's not. There's no affiliation there.
• 56:52
  Speaker A: Well, I was. We was recorded. I recorded a. So I can't say too much about it, but I recorded a song last night that's about Mexico as well. But I can't. I'm. I can't. I maybe send you, but I can't say anything about it yet publicly.
• 57:05
  Speaker D: Yeah, please.
• 57:06
  Speaker A: But I would see if it wasn't for the fact. See if Scotland were playing Mexico, I would be trying to save up and get to the World cup. But I don't fancy the USA and I don't think the USA fancies me.
• 57:19
  Speaker C: I'm not.
• 57:19
  Speaker A: Five years of social media posts.
• 57:22
  Speaker D: Oh, okay.
• 57:23
  Speaker C: So did you. You liked it in Mexico then?
• 57:25
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was brilliant. It was, bro. I just don't have enough money to make it work.
• 57:31
  Speaker D: Where'd you go? Oaxaca, you said so.
• 57:33
  Speaker A: Started off in Oaxaca, went to Puerto Escondido, went to Mexico City and stuff.
• 57:39
  Speaker D: Cool.
• 57:39
  Speaker A: But I loved it. But the idea was to see if I could do work remotely. But what had happened is, I think overlooked in people from the usa. We with the LA money, the New York money, they all went over there and bought all the houses. So I felt like maybe really wanted another gringo working for home. It didn't. And they just put the price up of everything. Everything was. I wouldn't say it's expensive. I would just say it's the same as. Probably the same as Glasgow. But the fact is I can't do 80 of the things I do in Scotland.
• 58:14
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 58:15
  Speaker A: So just relying on that wage. So. Yeah. Maybe one day, maybe retire. I would definitely go back. I loved it. There was a really beautiful place called Tepizlan just right outside, about an hour outside of Mexico City. That was my favorite. It was just nice and peaceful and quiet. But, you know, we're only an hour from Mexico City.
• 58:36
  Speaker D: Was it. Was it like a place in Mexicali?
• 58:38
  Speaker A: Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I just know you got a bus for now and it was in the hills. It was very mystical, magical. Apparently it's where all the UFOs are. We were about 10 minutes away from a volcano erupting.
• 58:54
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker A: Maybe one of the pueblos. I don't know if it is a pueblo actually, but you know, there's the pueblo cities or something.
• 59:03
  Speaker D: Okay.
• 59:03
  Speaker C: I think we're going to LA and yeah. This year. So I was really hoping to get down there.
• 59:08
  Speaker D: I'd like to take you.
• 59:09
  Speaker C: Yeah, I'd love to go.
• 59:11
  Speaker D: I have loads of family there. They haven't in a long time.
• 59:14
  Speaker C: A couple of people scared me a.
• 59:16
  Speaker D: Wee bit with the other.
• 59:17
  Speaker C: They'll take me hostages.
• 59:19
  Speaker D: You'll be fine.
• 59:20
  Speaker A: Nice. We. We tried to stick to the. There's a traffic system where it's like green, yellow, red for places you should visit and places you shouldn't. But we, we did, we did go. We went to the Bahadora Festival and we had to go through a couple of red bits or, or yellow bits. Can't remember exactly. And the, the driver said, oh, can you pick us up at 3, 3am Once the. The music stops. And he's like, absolutely not daylight. I'll pick you up. I'll pick you up at 8 in the morning. Because otherwise. But yeah, as long as you sort of ask a bit. But I'd be more concerned about being in the USA than Mexico. Everyone was dead friendly. I think just there's bits that you don't go to. There's bits you don't go to. Like everywhere.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker A: Especially in Scotland. You don't go.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker C: Yeah, I'm looking forward to any.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker A: And even was. Was the worst case scenario as you get kidnapped or whatever. It's worth it for the tackles. Just last question actually because we're just. We're at an hour. But last question. What would you. Is there. What is the closest in Scotland to decent Mexican food that you found? For anyone listening to audio podcast, that was a face of. I'm not impressed.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker C: Probably my cooking.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker D: No no, we cook better. Yeah. But no, there was this one. I can't remember. I'm so sorry. It was like a taco truck thing. They were so expensive and they were at the SWG3. I can't remember their name, but that was the closest was that. I don't think you were. The tacos were like £10 each though, for these wee tacos. You know the. The corn ones.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker D: I can't remember, but it was the.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker A: Taste of Mexico, so it was worth it.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker D: Yeah, it was an actual Mexican.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker D: That's why he moved over for whatever reason. And yeah, he was running this business and it's pretty authentic. Yeah, very tasty. So I'll find out. I'll let you know.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker A: Yes, I would like to. I would. I would do it because obviously everything here is more kind of text mix and I think even shout outs to the other Mexican food people because there is actual genuine Mexicans trying to do it. But I think there's just a problem with getting the ingredients, the right ingredients fresh in time because we're at the other end of the world.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker D: You can go to a place called Lupus Pinto and they do American Mexican ingredients.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker C: Yeah. The food you get. That's good.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker D: Yeah. So that's actually like internationally shipped, but.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker A: Oh, cool. So where's that?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker D: They have one in Great Western Road and they have one in Edinburgh. It's in two shops. Yeah, that's it. I've never heard of anything else like that. Yeah, I've been going there for many years.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker C: You should open a shop.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker D: I know American ingredients there too, for like pumpkin pie making.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker C: All right.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker D: The tin for the. Yeah. Punk pie. Puree the pumpkin.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker A: It says pumpkin pie. I Mexican thing. No, that's a Thanksgiving. You get. You get the pumpkin pie from the morning. The mom and pop shop. The mom and Pop.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker C: Oh, it's delicious.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker A: I love the more the man Pop shop.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker D: That's good. You can get them freshly baked in the US though.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker C: It's an. Oh, it's an odd taste. It's kind of like savory but not.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker D: It's weird.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker C: It's nice.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker D: It's not.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker A: Okay, I'm. I'm starving so I'm gonna have to end this and get some food. But thank you to the folk drama. I put the link tree in the comments in the details. Just go and follow them on all the things and stream the new single and I'll see you guys on the 23rd in soot.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker C: Thanks very much for having us.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker D: Thank you.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker A: Next one, guys are the best Bye.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker C: Later.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker E: Just look around the corner. It's the CIA. Keep her eyes for P.E. we should be okay? I'm going down that road again? Uhhuh? I'm going down that road again? Silence is a picture should be heard? Not seen me the well, Adrian I could better heartbreak tea? I'm going down that road again? Uhhuh? I'm going down that road again? Everybody's claiming it'll be all right? Even if you're holding on extra tight?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker A: You called? Our radio is powered by the patrons at patreon.com forward/you call that radio?