Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Ep. 16 Dana 60 Swap: Is It Actually Worth It?
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- 3:29Wow it's Tony, hey Tony it's Scott
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- 3:45So hey what's going
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- 3:49I've been out for about three weeks
- 3:51Well you haven't been
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- 3:53I mean you've still had an XJ right?
- 3:56Yes, yes but I've been offline
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- 4:12I think we all have, all
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- 4:18We've actually restricted the number of
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- 4:27We're getting a lot of places from China
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- 4:50more registrations now
- 4:52I guess people are taking it in the way
- 4:54it was intended not to be
- 4:56jerks but try to help the members
- 4:59Right, right, right
- 5:01So I think you were working on a Dana 60
- 5:04installation on your
- 5:05XJ, how's that coming?
- 5:07I hit a big roadblock the other day
- 5:13I opted for a year 2000 F250 front axle
- 5:17And a lot of people were saying it's not
- 5:19that great of an axle, yeah
- 5:20it's got the Dana 60 strength
- 5:23But I ran into the issue that the
- 5:24differential was a little
- 5:25too far to the driver's side
- 5:27So I pretty much had to scrap the idea of
- 5:30doing my coils and I'm
- 5:32going to an air shock setup
- 5:34Waiting on that
- 5:36Not knowing anything about it, would a
- 5:38leaf spring setup work better?
- 5:41No, because the thing is going straight
- 5:43down I don't have any
- 5:45room for a bracket down there
- 5:48I'm going to actually have to kind of
- 5:49make my own lower control arm
- 5:51brackets as well as chuck cabs
- 5:55So there's really no
- 5:56room for a whole coil bucket
- 5:57So I'm guessing that that also means that
- 6:01selling this Dana 60 and getting one that
- 6:04would better fit your Jeep
- 6:06would be cost prohibitive
- 6:08Well, I'm not sure what that means but
- 6:12It would cost more to do that than to
- 6:15continue forward with what you're doing
- 6:17Oh, well I really don't have much time
- 6:19and energy into this front axle
- 6:21All I've done is taken one bracket off of
- 6:22it really and then just clean it up
- 6:25The only issue is the correct axle
- 6:29Few to far between
- 6:3178-79, F250 and to find one of those is
- 6:36just bang near impossible and I'm not
- 6:39really down for that
- 6:41I'd like to get this up and running by
- 6:43the end of next month
- 6:46There's a trip to the
- 6:48Dempsey Rocks that I want to go to
- 6:51Well, let me ask you this
- 6:52I don't know about this from first hand
- 6:55doing it but just watching Xtreme 4x4
- 6:59I'm now an expert
- 7:01I saw what they did on one of their axles
- 7:04I don't know if it was a 60 or not
- 7:05But what they did was they took the
- 7:08I think they had to re-center the pumpkin
- 7:10so it would fit their Toyota or whatever
- 7:11it was they were putting it on
- 7:13And the way they were able
- 7:14to get away with that was
- 7:16They were able to use
- 7:18axles from a different similar
- 7:22I mean it was like another Dana 60
- 7:24But it was from a different year
- 7:26So they were actually able
- 7:27to take the stock of axles
- 7:30Because one was
- 7:32shorter than the original one
- 7:34And you know what I'm saying
- 7:35They were able to cut it down, move the
- 7:36pumpkin over, weld it back
- 7:38And then use the shorter axle
- 7:40That way it got the pumpkin in line with
- 7:42where they needed it
- 7:43So I'm wondering if the axles for a 78-79
- 7:47Dana 60 would fit that one
- 7:49Which you'd have to cut the
- 7:51tube and move the pumpkin over
- 7:53Right, and I talked to one of my buddies
- 7:57over here in Houston
- 7:58at Hobbier's Crawl Shop
- 8:00Or Gulf Coast Crawl Shop, it's also known
- 8:02as Hobbier's Auto's Unlimited
- 8:06I talked to him about it and he said
- 8:09In order to get the best deal possible
- 8:12Because I was looking to
- 8:13get that Chevy lug nut pattern
- 8:15And the correct size on the driver's side
- 8:19to where I can actually put a spring
- 8:20mount and everything
- 8:21He said the best bet is you cannot find
- 8:23that 78-79 Ford axle to get a Chevy axle
- 8:27Now granted the only issue is the Chevy
- 8:29axle is passenger side drop
- 8:32They said what they can do is cut the
- 8:34tubes, flip the sides, and
- 8:36then cut the knuckles off
- 8:37And put the knuckles
- 8:38back on the correct side
- 8:40And I said okay well that's all fun and
- 8:43dandy but how much money are we talking?
- 8:47Yeah but that's a grand at least
- 8:49Yeah and it was right back up to the same
- 8:50price as getting a kingpin out of a 78-79
- 8:53You can find them, it's just a matter of
- 8:55are you going to shell out $1200 bucks
- 8:57Right
- 8:57So that was not something I was willing
- 9:00to dive into as well
- 9:02Well I thought I might get lucky with
- 9:03some of the stuff I've seen and read that
- 9:05was nonspecific to what you were doing
- 9:08Now this one, you said you were going to
- 9:11use, instead of coils you
- 9:12were going to use air shocks
- 9:14Yeah Fox air shocks 2.0s
- 9:16How would that work?
- 9:18They're a nitrogen filled shock and they
- 9:22suspend the weight of your vehicle kind
- 9:24of like air and nitrogen pressure mix
- 9:27Right
- 9:27I'm not sure exactly
- 9:28the science behind it
- 9:29I mean it's just an air shock but it must
- 9:32be a really heavy duty one to handle the
- 9:35weight of the front end of the Jeep
- 9:36Yeah it's actually rated to hold up to
- 9:39500 psi inside the tube
- 9:41Oh
- 9:43Pretty high
- 9:44Yeah I know the old shocks used to fail
- 9:45occasionally, I guess if it fails out on
- 9:47a trail that's not
- 9:48going to be a good situation
- 9:50Well the old shocks that failed were,
- 9:52they were kind of like rubber bags
- 9:54And this is not the same kind of thing
- 9:57because I have the old school airbag, air
- 10:01shocks on my Durango
- 10:02just as a load leveler
- 10:04And those were hard to find
- 10:06Interesting
- 10:07I didn't realize that
- 10:07I kind of dissected them a little bit,
- 10:09not took them apart but I looked them
- 10:11over real good to see
- 10:12how the design worked
- 10:13And look at the design of the air shocks
- 10:15and it's actually going
- 10:17to be, it's pretty cool
- 10:19They're pretty expensive,
- 10:20they're like $215 a piece
- 10:21And just selling some stuff to fund that
- 10:25and hopefully we'll be able to get those
- 10:26in the next week or so
- 10:28And I actually got a good deal today on
- 10:30some tires from my buddy
- 10:32over there at Javier's as well
- 10:34He's got a set of 37 inch crawler TAs,
- 10:38they're used up pretty good
- 10:39but if I'm just off-roading it
- 10:42It'll last me another year or two
- 10:44And he's selling to me for $100 a piece
- 10:46Well it sounds like he got a plan, it'll
- 10:48be interesting to see how it turns out
- 10:51And certainly he's doing it different
- 10:54than what I'm familiar
- 10:56with so I like seeing that
- 10:58I hope you don't have a lot of problems
- 10:59with it because I know
- 11:00how frustrating that can be
- 11:02Well that's the thing with as many Google
- 11:04things that are out there, there's an
- 11:05answer to everything
- 11:07And sometimes the answer
- 11:08is don't do it that way
- 11:09Sometimes the answer is you can do it
- 11:11that way but it's going to cost
- 11:13And the thing is I have
- 11:15time more than money right now
- 11:17So if it's a matter of waiting to find
- 11:20something on eBay and it might come along
- 11:22once every couple of months
- 11:24I'm willing to do that
- 11:25And with the network of people telling me
- 11:27where to find parts and stuff
- 11:30I'm actually able to get 5.13 gears for
- 11:32this thing for $139 a piece
- 11:35And they're brand new with
- 11:36a warranty and everything
- 11:38That's great, and is that something
- 11:40you're going to try to set up yourself?
- 11:42Yeah I actually did a lot of research on
- 11:44setting up gears and I feel
- 11:46pretty comfortable with it
- 11:48I've got a buddy up in Dallas who he set
- 11:50his ring opinion on his 8A
- 11:53And he showed me how to do it for this
- 11:55thing and I feel
- 11:55pretty comfortable doing it
- 11:57I've got all the right
- 11:58tools to actually do it
- 11:59Well it shouldn't be so bad
- 12:00since it's not a daily driver
- 12:02I was real nervous about
- 12:03mine having the 456s put on
- 12:06And I would like to
- 12:09know how to do it myself
- 12:10I'd actually thought
- 12:10about getting another Dana 30
- 12:13Or maybe just the
- 12:15pumpkin and practicing with it
- 12:18But I didn't like how it had the crush
- 12:20bearing or crush sleeve
- 12:23And you put it in there
- 12:24and that crush sleeve is used
- 12:26If you're going to take it out, put it
- 12:29back in with the crush sleeve
- 12:31I don't think they're really expensive
- 12:33But still I just didn't like the idea of
- 12:35every time you're doing something with it
- 12:38You have to replace that part
- 12:40Right, and the crush sleeve basically
- 12:42kind of sets up the depth of how far your
- 12:46opinion goes into the pumpkin
- 12:48And I don't know exactly how many foot
- 12:51pounds it actually requires
- 12:52But I know this much what you do is you
- 12:54torque it down pretty good
- 12:57And then you put an inch pound torque
- 13:00wrench on the yoke itself
- 13:03And you try and turn the
- 13:05yoke with the inch pound
- 13:07And when your resistance hits 20 inch
- 13:10pounds, that's when your preload is set
- 13:12And then you can start
- 13:14assembling the rest of the axle
- 13:16Yeah, well then there's I think there's
- 13:19shims that go in between there
- 13:21And if you get that stuff wrong, then
- 13:26your opinion depth isn't right
- 13:28And the nice little yellow paint doesn't
- 13:30look properly on the ring gear
- 13:32Oh my god, I was just really surprised
- 13:35The shims go on for the,
- 13:38yeah there's some on the opinion
- 13:40But they're mostly to do with the right
- 13:43and left play on your ring gear
- 13:44Right, actually I'm getting the Chrysler
- 13:468.25 and the Dana 30
- 13:50I'm doing a mixture of both of them
- 13:52because it's been a
- 13:53while since it was done
- 13:55But I stood there for the 12
- 13:56hours while we were doing it
- 13:57And the Dana 30 was the
- 13:59most difficult one to set
- 14:01The Chrysler 8.25 wasn't so bad with the
- 14:04exception of the special
- 14:05tool that you have to have
- 14:06But at least that one, you adjust the,
- 14:10you don't have shims on the side
- 14:11It has like big bolts that you twist and
- 14:16adjust to get the side
- 14:17to side play properly
- 14:19It was nice that you
- 14:21don't have to use shims
- 14:22But it was kind of sucky that you have to
- 14:23have this special tool
- 14:24Which we actually made from a long rod
- 14:28and the right size nut
- 14:30Well the nut was huge
- 14:31Yeah, I don't doubt it
- 14:32But it was pretty cool
- 14:33But it was pretty cool getting it done
- 14:36I don't know that I would feel
- 14:38comfortable doing that on my daily driver
- 14:40I think I would have to practice before
- 14:43Right, right, yep
- 14:44So what else is up
- 14:45So what else is up
- 14:47Since you're loving that house, having
- 14:49actually been able to work in a driveway
- 14:50instead of out in front of the apartment
- 14:52complex with the neighbors
- 14:53Oh yeah
- 14:54You know, eyeballing you
- 14:55Yeah, don't have to
- 14:56worry about that anymore
- 14:57Matter of fact, I got a neighbor across
- 14:58the street and he kind of checks it out
- 15:00every time I'm working on the Jeep
- 15:01He's like, "Hey, what
- 15:02are you doing today?"
- 15:03And I made some off-road George last week
- 15:06And he was, I was taking some
- 15:08measurements on him to do
- 15:09the back ones as well tonight
- 15:11And he came over for a little bit
- 15:12And kind of BSed around
- 15:14for about 30-40 minutes
- 15:16And I wrapped everything up and came
- 15:18inside to take a shower and sat down for
- 15:20the video or the show
- 15:21Excellent, well I'm glad you showed up
- 15:23Yeah, like I was saying when we started,
- 15:25we only had about two people here
- 15:27And I figured it was going
- 15:27to be a lot of me talking
- 15:28Which it normally is, but I would prefer
- 15:30to have other people saying things that,
- 15:33you know, that I find interesting
- 15:34Like your Dana 60
- 15:37build you've got going up
- 15:38I've just been real interested in that
- 15:40Yeah
- 15:40I'm just really ready to
- 15:43be done with this thing
- 15:45It's never going to be done
- 15:48No, the axle portion of it, I mean,
- 15:50that's a big upgrade
- 15:53Oh, yeah
- 15:53When you buy them already built, it's
- 15:55just the pain in the butt
- 15:57I don't think I would ever do it again
- 16:01the way I'm doing it
- 16:03I would probably buy the kingpin and take
- 16:07it to a shot and let them do it
- 16:09It's just, it's a pain
- 16:11So, but you're going to be doing
- 16:12something with the rear axle, right?
- 16:14As far as what?
- 16:15What do you got in there
- 16:16now? I thought you had a Dana 35
- 16:18Oh, yeah, I've got a Dana
- 16:1960's front and rear for it
- 16:20Ah, okay, because I think I'd
- 16:22only heard about the front one
- 16:23And I assumed you just had one, I didn't
- 16:25realize you had them both
- 16:27No, the rear one is done, I think
- 16:31Basically, it's drum brakes right now and
- 16:34if I decide that I want to go
- 16:35disc, which it probably will
- 16:37That's the only thing I
- 16:38have to do on it right now
- 16:40Is it installed?
- 16:41Drums are good with that
- 16:42Is it installed?
- 16:43No, I'm not going to install it until I
- 16:45get all my gears and everything set
- 16:46Okay
- 16:47Basically, I'm not going to install it
- 16:48until I can wheel it out of my garage
- 16:50Yeah, that makes sense
- 16:51And go full wheeling
- 16:52Yeah, that makes sense
- 16:54Well, I don't want to
- 16:55take up everybody else's time
- 16:56I'm sure we've got a few other guys that
- 16:59want to probably give a call
- 17:00I don't know if your
- 17:03phone is ringing or not
- 17:04I don't want to take
- 17:05up anybody else's time
- 17:07Nope, everything is nice and quiet
- 17:09I sure appreciate you calling in
- 17:10My fear is that you'll be the last caller
- 17:13So I don't want to let you go
- 17:14Come on guys
- 17:15I don't want to let you go
- 17:17But then again, I'd like to
- 17:18give somebody else a chance too
- 17:21So it's going to be one
- 17:21of those leaps of faith
- 17:24Tell you what, if nobody calls, you just
- 17:26tell me to call back
- 17:27and we'll shoot the crap
- 17:29Right, well, I know I've got two people I
- 17:31can count on, you and Rheemie
- 17:32Alright, man, thanks for calling
- 17:34And hey, keep us updated on
- 17:35that Dana 60 build for your XJ
- 17:39And I forgot to
- 17:40mention it when you called
- 17:42You know, I think in my head, everybody
- 17:44that's in the chat room and certainly me,
- 17:47they all know who you are
- 17:48The people listening may not
- 17:51This is Scott, XJ4IV from XJtalk.com
- 17:55He's been a member
- 17:55for a pretty good while
- 17:58He left us for about a
- 17:59month and recently came back
- 18:01So welcome back, Scott
- 18:03And we'll look forward to more updates on
- 18:06the site with you about your stuff
- 18:07Alright, sounds good
- 18:11And we ought to get together
- 18:13I'm going to try and get to
- 18:14the wheel on this Saturday
- 18:15So Tony, you don't
- 18:17have an excuse this time
- 18:19Yeah, I do, I don't have sliders
- 18:20Oh, well, we can build some real quick
- 18:25Yeah, Mark's going to take
- 18:26care of that for me though
- 18:27Whenever I get the money to do it
- 18:29Cool, detours?
- 18:30Yep, absolutely
- 18:31Awesome, awesome, awesome
- 18:33I was looking at his website the other
- 18:34day and I was really
- 18:35intrigued by a lot of this stuff
- 18:36I was like, "Ooh, fun!"
- 18:38We are really getting
- 18:39some very exciting vendors
- 18:41I mean, you know, Mark, detours has been
- 18:43there since the beginning
- 18:44Iron Man Andy, Mohe is the
- 18:46system, great front end parts
- 18:48The lower control arms, upper control
- 18:50arms, track power, etc
- 18:53We got a new vendor today
- 18:56Dirt bound off road
- 18:57And he's got a $100 FYE
- 19:00for an NP-242 transfer case
- 19:04Do what?
- 19:05You haven't seen that?
- 19:05You need to have a look
- 19:07No, and I'm buying it because I was about
- 19:09to get rid of that and buy a C31
- 19:11Yeah, it's a hack and tap
- 19:13But we have a new vendor on and I'm going
- 19:17to ask him some questions
- 19:18Because I've heard some things about
- 19:20doing the standard hack
- 19:21and tap for a 231 on a 242
- 19:23That isn't the best thing to do
- 19:26But this is the yoke, the drill bit, the
- 19:29tap, the nut,
- 19:31instructions, yada, yada, yada
- 19:34Oh, for yours it's more expensive
- 19:36Sorry, for the 96 and
- 19:39earlier it's like $189
- 19:41Well, could it? What happened there?
- 19:43It's because there's a different rear
- 19:45housing on it, I'm sure
- 19:46Exactly, because it comes
- 19:47with a piece that bolts on there
- 19:49It's very nice, it looks great
- 19:51But yeah, there's a
- 19:52couple of additional pieces
- 19:53A seal and that housing
- 19:55part that goes on there
- 19:57But yeah, have a
- 19:58look, it's pretty tempting
- 20:00I really wanted the Tom Wood solution,
- 20:03but it's really tempting
- 20:04So I've got to ask him some questions
- 20:07Because it's actually like
- 20:08$109 for the hack and tap
- 20:11And then I would use, the thing I really
- 20:14like about it is being able
- 20:15to use a front drive shaft
- 20:17Because that means I've got two drive
- 20:19shafts that are exactly the same
- 20:21And if I trash one, I'm carrying a spare
- 20:25Yep, and you can still get home
- 20:27That's right, that's what it's all about
- 20:29Alright man, thanks for the call
- 20:30Thanks for the call and
- 20:32we'll catch you on the site
- 20:34Alright, take it easy
- 20:35Alright
- 20:35Bye
- 20:36Okay, yeah that says URL
- 20:39removed, Raney let me turn that on
- 20:42Allow links
- 20:44So anytime you guys are posting
- 20:48URLs, internet websites in chat
- 20:51Unless the links are
- 20:52being allowed, it's going to
- 20:54To everybody else it's
- 20:55going to say URL removed
- 20:57To you, on your chat
- 20:59screen, you'll see the link
- 21:01So that's a little
- 21:06deceiving when you see that
- 21:07Because you think everybody saw it, but
- 21:09it didn't, it says URL removed
- 21:11So Raney if you want to send
- 21:13that thing back again, you can
- 21:14If you want to send that link out again,
- 21:15you can put that in
- 21:17there and it'll show up now
- 21:18Because I've turned the links on
- 21:20And Scott, XJ4IV says, "Okay sorry guys,
- 21:23didn't mean to take up time"
- 21:24You didn't take up any time at all,
- 21:25that's exactly what we're doing tonight
- 21:27Is taking live calls
- 21:30So I really appreciate it, it was a
- 21:32relief getting a call
- 21:33Because you usually have to beg
- 21:35Yep, I see it now
- 21:37Yeah, that's the link
- 21:38Is that the link to the
- 21:40Oh that's the link to the post that
- 21:43Dirtbound Offroad put up about the
- 21:48NP-242 SIE that they have
- 21:51on sale through April the 1st
- 21:54Also too, Turl
- 21:58Posted and asked
- 22:00And I thought, it kind of
- 22:02embarrassed me a little bit
- 22:03We got a brand new vendor and he's
- 22:04saying, "Hey, we got an XJTalk discount"
- 22:08And Dirtbound Offroad came
- 22:11up and like a champ posted
- 22:13Yeah, he goes, "Let me get it set up,
- 22:15it'll be XJTalk and
- 22:17it'll be a 10% discount"
- 22:18I mean, 10%, that's a great discount
- 22:22So if you're not an
- 22:24XJTalk member, join up
- 22:26And get in there and look
- 22:29at all the goodies he has
- 22:31Actually he has a 3 electric fan set up
- 22:353 10" fans that's supposed to put out
- 22:38I'm sorry, 4,600 CFM
- 22:43And he even has a couple of controllers
- 22:46That he will sell with that
- 22:48Anyway, just the fans themselves are $149
- 22:52So that might be a real
- 22:56possibility for my Jeep
- 22:58Because I've been trying to get my
- 23:02cooling problem on the highway
- 23:05The little heating issue I have, the
- 23:07little overheating issue I've been having
- 23:10And that might very well solve it
- 23:12I think 2,900 CFM is what you need if
- 23:16you're going to be
- 23:16changing to electric fans
- 23:18So I think 4,600 would
- 23:19be probably what I need
- 23:22Well, Rene Arganard from Scott says,
- 23:26"Stop driving on the highway"
- 23:28It's a daily driver, Scott
- 23:31You guys don't understand
- 23:32I don't have money to
- 23:34spend on additional vehicles
- 23:36I have to take very
- 23:37good care of what I've got
- 23:38So every time I go out
- 23:41off-road, I really enjoy it
- 23:43But every time I go off-road, I'm
- 23:45wondering what it is
- 23:46that I'm going to break
- 23:47And how much is it going to cost me
- 23:49I mean, I'd be
- 23:50hard-pressed to buy another tire
- 23:53So I have to be very cautious about it
- 23:55That's another reason
- 23:56why I talk about sliders
- 23:58Well, Rene's called in on Skype
- 24:00Let's bring him on
- 24:01Hey, Rene
- 24:03Hey, Tony, what's up?
- 24:04And if you haven't
- 24:05already, turn down your computer
- 24:08I shut it off
- 24:09Okay, I want to say turn down your radio
- 24:11But that's from the old days, the old
- 24:14talk shows that I used to listen to
- 24:17So what's up?
- 24:18I mean, this is for you guys that weren't
- 24:20aware, we had a show last night
- 24:22A little quickly put together a show
- 24:24And Rene and Wayne
- 24:25both called in on that one
- 24:26So this is two days in a row for Rene
- 24:29Yeah, I know, and poor Wayne
- 24:30I don't understand
- 24:31How come I can understand all the
- 24:32reporters over there?
- 24:33But I can't understand what he says
- 24:35He's a New Zealand hillbilly
- 24:38He's the redneck from New Zealand
- 24:40You know, it'd be a lot
- 24:41more funny if he was here
- 24:43Or he could hear that and react to it
- 24:45Oh, I know, well he shows to be on Skype
- 24:47But I've tried to text him a couple times
- 24:49and he hasn't answered
- 24:50Yeah, there's no telling
- 24:51what's going on over there
- 24:52Hopefully it's nothing bad
- 24:55I mean, I think they're just nervous
- 24:57about things that are going on
- 24:58Of course, I remember him
- 24:59saying this coming weekend
- 25:01They're looking at the moon man, the
- 25:04non-scientific moon man
- 25:05Is calling for another major quake this
- 25:07weekend there in
- 25:08Christchurch, New Zealand
- 25:10So we will see
- 25:11Hopefully they won't have it
- 25:15I tell you what, with all these, with the
- 25:17big quake there at Christchurch
- 25:19And the two big quakes at Christchurch
- 25:22And now the 9.0 in Japan
- 25:24You know, my goodness, it kind of makes
- 25:26you wonder what the hell is going on
- 25:29And of course there was
- 25:30the one in Sumatra in 2004
- 25:35I mean, a quarter of
- 25:36a million people died
- 25:37And I'd heard reports, early on I heard
- 25:40reports that in Japan
- 25:41They were suspecting that there might be
- 25:43close to 90,000 killed in that quake
- 25:47That's horrible
- 25:49You know what's pretty
- 25:50amazing about all that?
- 25:51The natives over in Somalia
- 25:53When that tsunami was coming in
- 25:56The natives burned like
- 25:57****
- 25:57the highest spikes they could get
- 25:59All the tourists were
- 25:59walking up from the beach going
- 26:01"Ooh, look at that new fishy!"
- 26:03Well if you think about it,
- 26:04the tourists don't have any idea
- 26:05I mean, especially if
- 26:06they're from California
- 26:07I mean, what do you have to expect from
- 26:09California earthquakes?
- 26:10I mean, generally speaking, it's a little
- 26:13rumble and that's it
- 26:17Well that's true, but you would think
- 26:19they'd have enough sense
- 26:20as a human being to know
- 26:22If the water goes rushing
- 26:24out, it's gonna come back
- 26:27My wife was showing me, I forget what she
- 26:30was watching on the U-verse
- 26:34But she stopped it and wanted me to watch
- 26:37And basically this little girl and her
- 26:38family were on vacation over in Sumatra
- 26:41And he, I guess, is
- 26:44where they were actually
- 26:45And she saw all the warning signs
- 26:47She had just learned about it in school
- 26:50And they were on the beach
- 26:52And she sees the foam in
- 26:54the water, the water going out
- 26:56And the two adult parents and her
- 26:59siblings are all there on the beach
- 27:01And she sees these warning signs and says
- 27:03"Hey, I learned about this at school"
- 27:06"There's a tidal wave coming"
- 27:09And they're like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah"
- 27:10And she says, "No, we need to leave"
- 27:13And I think they made it to safety with
- 27:15about just a few minutes to spare
- 27:19And they almost certainly would have been
- 27:21killed, the entire family
- 27:23So it's not that you don't, it's not that
- 27:26people can't recognize there's a problem
- 27:29Most of the time when people see
- 27:31something unusual, they
- 27:32go, "Ooh, look at that"
- 27:34I mean, as I was telling my girls that
- 27:38whenever you see
- 27:38something unusual, think about it
- 27:40What could this mean?
- 27:42I mean, we saw it here
- 27:44recently on the Japan tsunami
- 27:46There were people, you remember that
- 27:48scene where the boats
- 27:49were going under the roadway?
- 27:52It was cars and boats, I mean huge boats
- 27:55And there was cars driving on the bridge,
- 27:57which I understand,
- 27:58what are you going to do?
- 27:58You're driving and
- 27:59you need to keep driving
- 28:00The thing I couldn't understand were the
- 28:01people standing on the bridge
- 28:03watching everything going on
- 28:07Well, have you had a chance to watch that
- 28:09video that I posted last night?
- 28:10I didn't see it
- 28:11Oh, it's in the chapel
- 28:15section under the Japan quake
- 28:17Okay, I'll have a look
- 28:19I couldn't remember where you put that
- 28:20because we talked about
- 28:21two or three different places
- 28:26I think I must sound like
- 28:27****
- 28:27to them over there
- 28:28The guy just asked me
- 28:29if I was taking a crap
- 28:30I think I'm in the living room
- 28:31It sounds like you're typing on the
- 28:33keyboard and the typing is really loud
- 28:36It must be this real sense of
- 28:37"Mike, not bad for $17, huh?"
- 28:40Yeah, no, everything sounds fine now,
- 28:42does it sound fine to you guys?
- 28:45He's whacking it, yeah
- 28:46Dude, that all tight, I'm a
- 28:50one finger on each hand taper
- 28:52You guys have seen the gopher thing where
- 28:53you take the hammer and you try to hit
- 28:55the head of the gopher
- 28:56Well, Vinnie's got a big hammer for the
- 28:58keys and that's how he types
- 29:00Wap, wap, wap, wap
- 29:01Yeah, pretty much, I'm not a...
- 29:04Typing in English and all
- 29:05that is not my favorite subjects
- 29:08Well, we're glad that you stick with it
- 29:10because we always get
- 29:11some interesting posts
- 29:13And you get the job done and actually you
- 29:16get quite a few posts on
- 29:18there, so really appreciate that
- 29:20Yeah, I don't even know how
- 29:20many posts I'm up to anymore
- 29:22I absolutely never look at that stuff
- 29:25Even in the newsletters, can you send
- 29:26out? Unfortunately, I
- 29:27don't even look at it again
- 29:29Yeah, you know the thing that surprised
- 29:30me, down at the bottom of the forums page
- 29:33It shows the top chatters,
- 29:36the top chat box chatters
- 29:38And I was real surprised that Dalton 4x4
- 29:41is by far the leader
- 29:43Oh, by super far
- 29:46It's like the machine, I'm going to go to
- 29:49it real quick since I'm
- 29:50sitting here looking at it
- 29:52It's like he's a thousand over everybody
- 29:54Yeah, I was amazed, and I
- 29:56figured he was talking to Jamie
- 30:00But Jamie's post, well he may be, but
- 30:02Jamie's post chat box counts weren't
- 30:05nearly as high as his
- 30:07So it must be a real
- 30:08one-sided conversation
- 30:10Yeah, no joke, she's a
- 30:12different person there
- 30:14Very interesting
- 30:16Let's see, I haven't updated it, let me
- 30:18refresh the page here and I
- 30:20can see what the chat counts are
- 30:21Yeah, I'm looking at that,
- 30:22I don't see it, how come?
- 30:24I found throne, I found...
- 30:26Yeah, it's right above where the egg
- 30:30avatar statistics are
- 30:32Jeep Cherokee Form XJTox Statistics, the
- 30:35best chatters are 4x4 Dalton
- 30:3715,030
- 30:41And the next highest
- 30:44is BigGym350 with 9,106
- 30:49So that's a delta of over 5,000 chats
- 30:54So this isn't characters guys, this is...
- 30:58Well at least my understanding is that's
- 30:59the number of lines, you know, semi-types
- 31:01in "Hello, my name is Dalton"
- 31:03Inner, that's a chat
- 31:05Right, well you know what I
- 31:08was going to say about Jamie
- 31:09Sometimes on chat she gets kind of whiny,
- 31:13trying to be nice about it
- 31:15But on Facebook, all of her posts are
- 31:17actually pretty cool
- 31:18It's like, I don't get it
- 31:20Well there's an interactive nature to...
- 31:24If you're sending something like an email
- 31:26or something, you have time to think
- 31:28about what it is that you're doing
- 31:29You're writing, you're not just reacting
- 31:31And in the chatroom
- 31:33it's almost like talking
- 31:34And you know how some people put their
- 31:36foot in their mouth a
- 31:37lot whenever they talk
- 31:38And they may be perfectly fine if they
- 31:40did an email or so on and so forth
- 31:43So it could be that
- 31:44I just think that it might be that
- 31:47whenever you're sending something that
- 31:49you're going to take time
- 31:50and type it in and hit enter
- 31:52Then you have more time to think about it
- 31:54Yeah, it's probably it
- 31:55I don't know, I mean, I generally...
- 31:57If it comes to my mind, it comes out of
- 31:59my fingertips or on Facebook or wherever
- 32:02I don't generally have a big filter
- 32:03between brain and mouth
- 32:06Well I'm sure that's gotten you into as
- 32:07much trouble as it gets me into
- 32:10Oh no, never
- 32:11Yeah, Jamie Lynn only has 2,919
- 32:15So, oh hey, you know, I just realized
- 32:18The most recent thing you've done
- 32:22Well you did a lot of
- 32:22repairs to your Jeep
- 32:24Is everything in working order now?
- 32:27I will definitely know come Friday
- 32:30Oh you can tell, you
- 32:31can tell by driving it
- 32:33If it feels right
- 32:34Yeah, you know so far it seems fine
- 32:35You know what I was telling y'all
- 32:36My lower arms off my Rough Country kit,
- 32:40the bushings are wiped out
- 32:41Really?
- 32:41And I noticed it when I started doing
- 32:43them, I put them tubular uppers on it
- 32:45And I called Jason over at Rough Country
- 32:48And you know they
- 32:49sent me an entire new arm
- 32:51I didn't get bushings
- 32:53I've got two brand new
- 32:55arms from Rough Country
- 32:56My goodness
- 32:58They do some great customer service
- 33:00I wonder if...
- 33:01I think they've always been like this
- 33:03But I'm kind of wondering if they're
- 33:04running a little scared
- 33:05Because of Rubicon Express
- 33:08Well you know, yes or no
- 33:09Jason told me a little
- 33:10bit of behind all that
- 33:12What didn't happen, Rubicon Express was
- 33:15one of the first people to do a lot of
- 33:16the lift kits like this
- 33:18And well when the economy went to crap
- 33:21A lot of people started buying Rough
- 33:22Country because
- 33:23that's all you could afford
- 33:24I mean, let's see here, you have a 4 inch
- 33:28Rubicon Express lift kit that's $1000
- 33:29And you can get this one for $500 over
- 33:32here at Rough Country
- 33:33You know, you kind of...
- 33:34when you only have $750 to spend
- 33:38You're going to buy the $500 kit
- 33:40So that's what everybody was doing
- 33:42And then when they got the
- 33:43Rough Country kit they realized
- 33:44Holy crap, you know what?
- 33:46This is a pretty good kit
- 33:49And then when the money started coming
- 33:50back in they were still going, you know
- 33:52Of course they, you know, like you and I
- 33:55And Big Jim and all of
- 33:56us that run Rough Country
- 33:58All of us bragged about it
- 33:59to everybody who will listen
- 34:01And that goes a long ways
- 34:04Well, you know, I trust yours
- 34:06and Jim's and Scott's opinion
- 34:08And when we go off road and you tell me
- 34:11my Jeep is doing well
- 34:13That it's articulating
- 34:15well and going through things
- 34:18You know, that's all I have to go by
- 34:20I mean, I just have the one Jeep
- 34:22My experience is with one Jeep
- 34:24And as far as suspension
- 34:25system goes, it's Rough Country
- 34:27I mean, the only other
- 34:28vehicle I had was an 83 pickup
- 34:31And I think that it was a Rancho kit
- 34:36But I mean, that was
- 34:36leaf springs on the front
- 34:37So it's kind of a
- 34:38totally different animal
- 34:39And it was a full-size truck too
- 34:40So articulation was, you know, was it
- 34:44pronounced properly?
- 34:44I mean, I had no idea
- 34:47So as far as I can tell, the Rough
- 34:50Country lift is great
- 34:51Now, the only thing I can
- 34:53tell from what people talk about
- 34:55Is the Rubicon Express
- 34:57stuff has a much better ride
- 35:00That maybe the stuff is a little softer
- 35:03So that whenever you're on the road
- 35:05Or I guess even if you're
- 35:07off road, if it's very bumpy
- 35:08You're not going to
- 35:08feel those bumps as much
- 35:10Now, in my
- 35:11one-dimensional head about off-roading
- 35:14Or even on-road with a lifted vehicle
- 35:17What do I care about with the ride?
- 35:19I don't have back problems
- 35:21It's a, God, I want to
- 35:23say big Jim's favorite word
- 35:25It's a four-wheel drive
- 35:27Come on
- 35:28Exactly
- 35:28If I wanted to ride like a Cadillac, I'd
- 35:31buy a big f***ing Cadillac
- 35:32And Cadillac is a great explanation for
- 35:35how I view Rubicon's Express
- 35:37Rubicon Express prices
- 35:39Because that's what
- 35:40it is, Cadillac prices
- 35:42Yeah, and you know, everybody who has
- 35:45Rubicon Express loves it
- 35:47And I have no experience with them
- 35:48whatsoever under any of my vehicles
- 35:51So I can't say I've had tough country
- 35:55I've had, this is my second
- 35:57time to deal with rough country
- 36:00I've had a full Ranchero suspension
- 36:03I've had Superlift
- 36:05I've had Skyjacker
- 36:07And I'll tell you what, out of
- 36:09everybody's lift kit I've had so far
- 36:11I've had more problems
- 36:14out of my rough country
- 36:15I will say that
- 36:16I've had two shocks go bad
- 36:18I've had the lower arms,
- 36:20you know, the bushings go bad
- 36:22And that's, you know, about a year's time
- 36:24But
- 36:25Well, you beat the f*** out of it too
- 36:27Oh yeah, I beat the f*** out of my Jeep
- 36:28I'm never going to deny that
- 36:29But, in the same
- 36:30breath, yes I've had problems
- 36:32But they've never, ever, ever given me
- 36:35one ounce of, you know, why this, that,
- 36:39you know, blah blah blah
- 36:41About repairing it or replacing something
- 36:43They just send it to
- 36:44me, no questions asked
- 36:45You know, they treated me the same way
- 36:48with my bent track bar, so
- 36:50Yeah, I'm with you on that
- 36:51It's like, you know what, you know, you
- 36:53could use the same
- 36:54thing you do as an auto zone
- 36:55Well yeah, I put my starter in there and
- 36:57it went bad and they gave me a new one
- 36:59But the catch is, I've done with auto
- 37:01zone, I put the starter in there and
- 37:02never started the friggin' car
- 37:04So, you know, I beat
- 37:06the f*** out of my Jeep
- 37:08I wouldn't expect anybody's lift kit to
- 37:10live under what I've done to my Jeep
- 37:12Well this is like the same discussion we
- 37:13were having about the
- 37:14winches the other day on the site
- 37:16And I, the only thing that makes me
- 37:19nervous about a Jeep winch is I don't
- 37:22have experience with it
- 37:24Now, indirectly I have
- 37:26experience with a Jeep winch
- 37:29So you're typing again
- 37:32Tarky
- 37:34Where's the microphone, by the way?
- 37:36On my ear, I mean,
- 37:36it's like a headphone set
- 37:38Wow, my goodness, I thought that might be
- 37:41a desk mounted thing or something
- 37:43Because that typing is probably as loud
- 37:46as you are, that's amazing
- 37:47Anyway, I have experience with the Jeep
- 37:50winch through seeing
- 37:51what you've done with yours
- 37:53And when we've been off-road together,
- 37:54and of course the stuff that I see that
- 37:57you put up on the site
- 37:58So I feel a little bitter about it
- 38:00Well let me
- 38:01I haven't gone through the same stuff,
- 38:03and I think that's what, with the Rough
- 38:04Country, that's where I am as far as
- 38:06I don't mind the potential
- 38:10problems with the Rough Country
- 38:11Because I've gone out and done some
- 38:13fairly rough things with mine
- 38:15And yeah, I bent something
- 38:17But it took me six months
- 38:18to figure out that I bent it
- 38:19And that's not because I'm dumb, it's
- 38:21because it just turned the
- 38:23steering wheel a little bit
- 38:24And I went home and just did the steering
- 38:25wheel and I've been driving it
- 38:26So
- 38:29No Scott, I'm not licking the mic
- 38:34Hey Scott, you asked me a question
- 38:36No, I do not have my proof of purchase on
- 38:38my Rough Country anymore
- 38:39But every time I give them my phone
- 38:41number, they find me in the system and
- 38:43that's all they ever asked for
- 38:44They've never asked for a picture,
- 38:46they've never asked for me
- 38:47to be turned apart, nothing
- 38:49They've always just said,
- 38:50"Hey man, we'll take care of it"
- 38:52And it's in the mail
- 38:53That was a little different from me Scott
- 38:55Actually, the guy that I spoke with, I
- 38:58think his name was Chris
- 38:59He joined XJ Talk the same day that I
- 39:02spoke with him, or
- 39:03chatted with him online
- 39:05He wanted a receipt
- 39:08and he wanted the picture
- 39:10And I was able to provide both those
- 39:12things within five minutes
- 39:13Because I had the electronic receipt
- 39:17So yeah, they wanted both those things
- 39:20Well true Tony, but I bought mine
- 39:22straight from Rough Country
- 39:23I need to buy it through a distributor
- 39:26Gotcha
- 39:26That might make the
- 39:28difference, might make the difference
- 39:29We would have to check with probably Ron
- 39:31at www.ForvillingPlus.com
- 39:34He'd be able to tell
- 39:34us how they handled that
- 39:37By the way Tony, I was
- 39:38going to just tell you all
- 39:40My winch issue was not my solenoid, I
- 39:43melted the battery cable
- 39:44I melted the battery terminal off of it
- 39:46Really?
- 39:47Yeah, I found that the other day
- 39:49When I was fixing the winch, I had
- 39:51actually pulled the cable loose
- 39:53And as I was pulling it
- 39:54loose, I noticed what I had done
- 39:55So yeah, I, of all
- 39:57things, so as of right now
- 40:00My winch is never
- 40:01giving you one ounce of bones
- 40:03So what exactly, what
- 40:05exactly burned off where the
- 40:06Where it was connected to the battery?
- 40:08Where it was connected to the battery
- 40:09What I had done, I had aftermarket cables
- 40:12on my Optima battery like everybody else
- 40:14And you know how they have the spot where
- 40:17you can, you know, like open it up
- 40:18Two seven sixteenths nuts, you open it up
- 40:20and you put the cable in there
- 40:21And you tighten them down
- 40:22Well I don't use that, I actually use the
- 40:24bolts and put new ends on my cables
- 40:27And tighten them in the bolts
- 40:28One of them ends that
- 40:30literally melted off
- 40:32Well that's interesting, it's, you know,
- 40:34when I was watching the video
- 40:35Which by the way, the video of Rene Opt
- 40:40recovering the flipped XJ
- 40:42He actually recovered it the
- 40:44opposite way that it went in
- 40:45So he did it tail over nose
- 40:49Anyway that video is up on XJTalk.com
- 40:53And if you, you really
- 40:54can't see much with it
- 40:56But if you watch the
- 40:59lights on Rene's Jeep
- 41:01You can tell as that winch was under load
- 41:04Because his lights would dim about fifty
- 41:07percent of what they
- 41:08were prior to that load
- 41:11And it's a cycling
- 41:13Bright dim, bright dim, bright dim
- 41:16So actually you probably could have,
- 41:19actually you could have had a fire
- 41:21You were running, pulling so
- 41:22many amps through that cable
- 41:24You're actually lucky
- 41:25it burned where it burned
- 41:26I mean basically what you had was a big
- 41:28a** fuse there that started melting
- 41:30Right, but also do remember that my winch
- 41:33has done that ever
- 41:33since I put the remote in it
- 41:35And I cannot figure out why it's doing it
- 41:38It does it under load, it
- 41:39does it without being under load
- 41:41It doesn't matter, it's still like, you
- 41:43know, the winch goes
- 41:44Eh, eh, eh, it just
- 41:46has done it since day one
- 41:48Even the people at Smittybilt, the
- 41:50technical guys at Smittybilt
- 41:51Cannot explain to me why my winch does
- 41:54that with the remote on it
- 41:55Do you still have the wired remote?
- 41:58Yes, I have the wired, if I run the wired
- 42:00it works perfectly normal
- 42:02But with my little remote it does that
- 42:04and it's just something that I deal with
- 42:07And I mean it's never given me one ounce
- 42:10of problems because of it
- 42:11And I don't care if it does that
- 42:13Well I wonder if we could get Big Jeep,
- 42:14Big Jeep and his friend back there to
- 42:16flip that Jeep back over
- 42:17And we could try it with the wired remote
- 42:20and see if he had the same problem
- 42:22Well you know what's funny is, the
- 42:25following weekend, the weekend of Mudfest
- 42:27I actually had to turn a samurai over
- 42:30I had a recovery to pull a
- 42:32samurai back on its wheels
- 42:33So yeah, two in like less than a week
- 42:36Hey, speaking of turning over a samurai,
- 42:39I think there was some
- 42:39chat on the poster or two
- 42:42On the XJTalks site about the cover of
- 42:46the Quadratec catalog
- 42:48And I didn't catch it
- 42:50I was just looking at the Jeep and
- 42:51actually that bumper that's on the Jeep
- 42:53But the young lady that is the model that
- 42:56is pretending to winch out a vehicle
- 42:58That vehicle they're
- 42:59winching out I guess is an H3 Hummer
- 43:02It sure is
- 43:03I like that little
- 43:04dig, that's kind of cool
- 43:08Yeah that was pretty fun
- 43:09You know I don't guess, I'm almost
- 43:11certain they don't have any
- 43:12Hummer parts in there do they
- 43:13I mean they have a grill that looks like
- 43:16the grill that goes on a Hummer
- 43:17That they sell for a Jeep
- 43:18And personally I think anybody that does
- 43:20that should be beaten
- 43:21But you know that course that kind of
- 43:24goes against my rule of you know
- 43:25Whatever you want to
- 43:26do, it's your vehicle
- 43:27It's still making an
- 43:30XJ look like a Hummer
- 43:31It's a sacrilege to me
- 43:33Yeah it's kind of
- 43:34****
- 43:36But I bet me and Big Jim know some people
- 43:37that would be willing
- 43:38to do that don't we Jim?
- 43:39I know you're out there somewhere
- 43:40Yeah he's there, let's see that he joined
- 43:43Well Rene you want to stick on here and
- 43:45try to answer some of these questions
- 43:47I've got the questions that people
- 43:49submitted for our performance distributor
- 43:51FireWire 4.0 kit giveaway
- 43:55And I thought I'd play them on tonight's
- 43:56show at least as many as we can
- 43:59And try to answer them
- 44:00They've been waiting
- 44:00quite a while for answers
- 44:02Yeah I was, you know some of them are
- 44:04actually pretty cool
- 44:05And I've got to admit I voted for the
- 44:09ones that I thought were the best
- 44:11But with the Ordins, I don't
- 44:14know how to pronounce his name
- 44:15I think it's Orderedeen just
- 44:16because it's O-R-D-E-R-D-E-N
- 44:19Or D-E-N-E
- 44:20So I think it's Orderedeen
- 44:22Well with Orderedeen I give him one
- 44:25million percent props
- 44:27Yes
- 44:28Calling in and doing what he did
- 44:31Knowing for a fact that
- 44:33English is not his language
- 44:35That's a lot
- 44:36And also too, he is a subscriber
- 44:39A subscriber to the site
- 44:40A half a world away
- 44:42Or maybe even at least half a world away
- 44:44And a subscriber to the site
- 44:46I mean my gosh
- 44:47Like I was saying yesterday
- 44:49Very humbled, very honored
- 44:51to have all the subscribers
- 44:53But especially one that English is not
- 44:56the primary language
- 44:56And it's just really cool
- 44:59You know Tony, on something like that
- 45:01And I'd be willing to
- 45:02bet if you put it to a vote
- 45:04It would be a decil
- 45:05You know, give him a consolation prize of
- 45:09a t-shirt or something
- 45:10I mean, you know, I mean come on
- 45:13This is a guy who
- 45:15He tried his dandest on
- 45:17the promo and the question
- 45:20I mean more props to the guys
- 45:22Hey, he may not need a consolation prize,
- 45:24the voting's not over
- 45:26Well, no true, but even if
- 45:27it doesn't vote in his favor
- 45:29I'd say a consolation prize
- 45:31just for doing what he did
- 45:34I mean I was so impressed
- 45:37Well, one of the things we're going to be
- 45:38doing here pretty soon
- 45:41In fact I was supposed to call the guy
- 45:42today and I'd get a chance
- 45:43I did find a local
- 45:44vendor for XJ Talks stickers
- 45:46So you guys have been, have paid and have
- 45:48been waiting for your XJ Talks stickers
- 45:51It may be coming really soon
- 45:53He's not available this Saturday
- 45:55It's going to have to be
- 45:56Saturday for me to pick him up
- 45:57Because it's over here in West Houston
- 45:59And I can't drive him from North Houston
- 46:01And get to West Houston in time
- 46:04So probably the
- 46:05Saturday following this one
- 46:08I should be able to go pick him up
- 46:09I want to get a couple of samples
- 46:11And there also might be a
- 46:13possibility for some really large
- 46:16Logo type with the
- 46:19yellow, the red and the black
- 46:20Like you see on top of the,
- 46:23on the top page of the website
- 46:24Some really large XJ Chalk logos
- 46:27I did get a price on the
- 46:284x10s that were, for, yeah, 15.50
- 46:35So I'm hoping that something twice that
- 46:39size might be in the $30 to $40 range
- 46:43And it basically would take up most of
- 46:46your rear quarter panel window
- 46:49So I'm going to get some from my Jeep
- 46:51And if you guys are interested in that
- 46:55I mean I understand you have to have a
- 46:57great love of XJ Talk to put something
- 46:59that big on your Jeep
- 47:01But I'll certainly be willing to get some
- 47:03if you guys are willing
- 47:05to stick it on your Jeep
- 47:06But I do need to get a price
- 47:08And I don't know what his limit is as far
- 47:10as how big an image he can make
- 47:13I think they do car wraps over there so I
- 47:15don't think he's got a limit
- 47:17Yeah, I like XJ wraps question, what
- 47:20about a banner for the windshield?
- 47:21Yeah, I was just getting ready to say it
- 47:23wouldn't be, I don't
- 47:24know how that would look
- 47:27I don't know what the font would be or, I
- 47:30mean I'm certainly open to suggestions
- 47:31I thought about that, but as far as it
- 47:36wouldn't be the circle with the XJT
- 47:38I wouldn't think anyway, it would be like
- 47:42the logo on the website
- 47:44So it would have to
- 47:45be something different
- 47:46And actually, Ironman Andy had asked me
- 47:49because in this race that he was just in
- 47:52He asked my permission to print up a
- 47:55large XJ Talk sticker
- 47:57So he could put on his
- 47:59Jeep during the drive
- 48:00And I thought that was
- 48:01very nice of him to offer that
- 48:03We didn't get it worked out,
- 48:04but he was trying to do that
- 48:06So yeah, a banner for
- 48:09the window would be fine
- 48:10If you guys want to come up with some
- 48:12ideas about how that would look
- 48:15Sure, I'd be happy to talk to the guy at
- 48:17the vinyl sign place
- 48:20about getting some made
- 48:22But before we get too far down the road
- 48:24on this, let's get some questions up
- 48:26before we run out of time
- 48:29So this first question, we just spoke
- 48:32about Order Deans, so
- 48:33let's put up his question
- 48:34I may have to translate this for you
- 48:37guys, we can try
- 48:38playing it a couple of times
- 48:40So here is Order Deans
- 48:41question for the FireWire giveaway
- 48:44And of course you can listen to it on
- 48:46XJTalk and please vote on there so that
- 48:49we can select a winner for that kit
- 48:51Voting will continue
- 48:53through Wednesday of next week
- 48:54And then we'll vote on what's the best
- 48:59promo, best question of the two
- 49:01And then whoever wins
- 49:03that vote wins the prize
- 49:05So anyway, here's Order Deans question
- 49:06And if you don't know, Order
- 49:08Deans is a Mongolia resident
- 49:11So that's why I say half a world away
- 49:13I mean it may be further than half a
- 49:15world, I guess it depends on which way
- 49:16you go, east or west
- 49:18How many different colors of
- 49:20XJs we have here at XJTalk?
- 49:25So he's asking how many different color
- 49:27XJs do we have on XJTalk?
- 49:29How many different colors of
- 49:31XJs we have here at XJTalk?
- 49:36Well I know we have red
- 49:38We have red, green, black, orange
- 49:40No, I don't know about
- 49:41those, I know we have red
- 49:45There's a lot of green
- 49:46ones though, there really is
- 49:47Yeah, what are the
- 49:48colors? Red, green, black
- 49:50Blue?
- 49:52Who has a blue one?
- 49:54I don't think he's been on in a while, I
- 49:56just saw on the albums today
- 49:58Who is it?
- 50:00McRob
- 50:04Who has a white one? Puddersher? Paul?
- 50:07Well, hell f***ing man has a white one
- 50:09Glen has a white one so
- 50:11we definitely have white
- 50:12Got a beautiful 98 white one
- 50:15Well he actually
- 50:17drives his worse than you do
- 50:19Or I shouldn't say worse, I
- 50:20should say more aggressive
- 50:21I had no idea that a Cherokee could go
- 50:24that far to the side without flipping
- 50:27I mean, oh my god
- 50:29Okay
- 50:31Huh?
- 50:33Oh I know
- 50:34Has anybody seen or heard of Red Dragon
- 50:36since the last six months?
- 50:39No
- 50:40Yeah, XJ4IV says Scott Red Dragon
- 50:44Yeah, I don't know what happened to him,
- 50:45he was pretty into what was going on
- 50:48I don't know, I don't know if he's still
- 50:52working out at HP or not
- 50:53I haven't heard or seen anything from him
- 50:55Oh
- 50:55Yeah, there's tan
- 50:56because Scott painted his tan
- 50:58Of course orange from orange XJ
- 51:01What's orange XJ's first name?
- 51:03Greg Greg?
- 51:05Yep And gosh, I mean, I
- 51:09can't, there's all kinds
- 51:11There's yellow, I mean XJ Jeep thing
- 51:13hasn't been on a while
- 51:14but he's got a yellow one
- 51:16Steph has a multicolored
- 51:19one, which includes yellow
- 51:21I think the only color we don't have is
- 51:23the purple one that your friend has
- 51:26Purple, that Barney purple, yep
- 51:28Yep, the Barney purple
- 51:29But there's a lot of green ones, yep,
- 51:31there's a lot of green
- 51:32And of course, Big Jim had a
- 51:36green one there for a while
- 51:38I was just noticing he's not on anymore
- 51:40He still has a green one
- 51:41No, I just noticed he wasn't in the chat
- 51:43room, he's not in the show anymore
- 51:45Oh, yeah, but he still has a green Jeep,
- 51:48he still has the green XJ
- 51:50He painted it
- 51:51It's green, he painted it green
- 51:53Painted it back green?
- 51:54No, it's painted it
- 51:56all of the color green
- 51:57It's a different color green
- 51:59Right
- 51:59Gotcha, okay
- 52:00Okay, let's go to another question here
- 52:04So really the question about how many
- 52:07different colors, I don't, gosh
- 52:09I guess we'd actually have
- 52:10to write it down and add it up
- 52:12To be able to answer Ordereding's
- 52:14question there properly
- 52:16Here is a question from Gumby1220
- 52:20Hi, this is Gumby1220 on XJtalk.com
- 52:23I'm calling from Houston, Texas
- 52:25My question is, if you guys were thinking
- 52:27about adding a thread on
- 52:30A how to convert a two-wheel
- 52:32drive to a four-wheel drive
- 52:34I haven't found any
- 52:36straightforward answers online
- 52:38Alright, that's my question, thank you
- 52:40Now, I think Blue XJ has actually done
- 52:43this as far as doing the conversion
- 52:46But I...
- 52:47Who did it?
- 52:48Blue XJ, a moderator
- 52:50Oh, okay
- 52:51Well, I know Matt's
- 52:53going to do it, so yes
- 52:54Yeah
- 52:55The answer to that question is, there
- 52:57isn't anything in writing yet
- 52:59But it will be done
- 53:00when Matt does his Jeep
- 53:01Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I was
- 53:03asking Matthew the other day
- 53:04I can't remember if I was on the Facebook
- 53:06chat with him or on XJtalk chat
- 53:09But I said, "Hey, are you going to take
- 53:10pictures and do a write-up on that?"
- 53:13Hint, hint
- 53:13He says, "Sure!"
- 53:16And that's not a...
- 53:17I don't know if you guys have done that
- 53:20Where you actually
- 53:20perform work on your Jeep
- 53:22And you take pictures
- 53:23And you try to take the pictures in such
- 53:26an order and in such a way
- 53:27Where you know it's going to make sense
- 53:29how you're going to be
- 53:29able to explain it in a post
- 53:30It's a lot of work
- 53:32It takes a lot longer to do what you're
- 53:35trying to do to the Jeep
- 53:36So, hats off to all these guys
- 53:39Anytime they take pictures and share that
- 53:41information with us on the website
- 53:42Because it's not an easy thing
- 53:44It's much easier just
- 53:45to get through the job
- 53:46And not have to worry about the
- 53:47additional task of setting up the shot
- 53:49And make sure the lighting's right
- 53:51And keeping the grease
- 53:52off the $300 phone, you know
- 53:55Yeah, you know what?
- 53:55The one I just did with
- 53:56the taking the doors off
- 53:58As I was writing it up, I realized
- 54:01I should have took that picture
- 54:03I should have took that picture
- 54:04I should have taken that picture
- 54:04It's way, way, way hard
- 54:06Matter of fact, the
- 54:07picture I took that I said
- 54:09"If you see right here where I ground
- 54:11this down, it makes it
- 54:12easier to put the door in"
- 54:13I went out and took that
- 54:14picture after I was completely done
- 54:16That happens a lot
- 54:17And there's nothing wrong with that
- 54:19You know, because you're
- 54:21doing it and writing it up
- 54:23Or, you know, documentation is a pain
- 54:25This period, because it's much easier to
- 54:30do than it is to write about it
- 54:31At least I think that's
- 54:32the case for most of us
- 54:34You know, there are people out there that
- 54:36are probably better
- 54:36documenters than there are mechanics
- 54:39I'm just...
- 54:41But yeah, it's a difficult task
- 54:43Okay, so to answer
- 54:45your question, Gumby1220
- 54:47There is not, as you're aware of, there
- 54:49is not a write-up on that
- 54:51It will be shortly
- 54:52I mean, Matt MS Mornberg, he's planning
- 54:56on doing that pretty soon, isn't he?
- 54:57Yes
- 54:58Well, the front axle's in, the lift's on
- 55:02We're going to pull the transmission and
- 55:04transfer case out of the other Jeep and
- 55:06get ready to install it
- 55:07Oh, he already has the
- 55:08Dana 30 in the front then
- 55:09Yeah, the Dana 30's been
- 55:11in it since he bought it
- 55:12Oh, okay, gotcha
- 55:13Well, at least when I wouldn't, you know,
- 55:15look at the Jeep and shake my head about
- 55:18now, it's a two-wheel drive
- 55:19It's beneath me to even think about
- 55:21waving at, so I would be fooled
- 55:23I would see the pump coming in, "Oh,
- 55:244-wheel drive, hey, how you doing?"
- 55:26Okay, so... because I am a Jeep's knob
- 55:29Okay, so let's see, let's
- 55:31go to Dalton 4x4's question
- 55:33This is also another firewire question,
- 55:36submission for the firewire contest
- 55:39Hi, this is 4x4, Dalton from Virginia
- 55:41I was wondering, I'm getting
- 55:43ready to put the lift on my XJ
- 55:45And what are the possible signs of a
- 55:47death wobble, and what are the
- 55:51best fixes for a death wobble
- 55:53And y'all's mine, thank
- 55:55you much, I'm on your...
- 55:56Really simple, Tony
- 55:58What are the possible
- 55:59signs of a death wobble?
- 56:00When you get it, you will
- 56:02never, ever, ever forget it
- 56:06Well, you fear of death
- 56:07Do you think you're going to die?
- 56:11The steering wheel will jerk left to
- 56:13right, out of your hand
- 56:15I mean, you'll be going 55 or so, and you
- 56:17will come to a stop to make it go away
- 56:19Oh, yeah
- 56:20You will never forget it once you get it
- 56:22I've never...
- 56:23And the way to fix it, replace all the
- 56:25wore-out crap, the only way to fix it
- 56:27Yeah, it really is, bushings, track bar,
- 56:31knuckles, I mean, I guess the...
- 56:33What do you call the
- 56:34things on the knuckles?
- 56:35The ball joints
- 56:37Yeah, the ball joints on the knuckles,
- 56:38you can be a problem,
- 56:40correct me if I'm wrong on this
- 56:41But it's all that stuff on the front end
- 56:43that gets old and can get loose
- 56:47I would say... Yeah,
- 56:48I'm sorry, go ahead, Tony
- 56:49No, no, go ahead
- 56:50I would say, out of everything that I've
- 56:53read and everything I've seen and
- 56:54everything I've experienced myself
- 56:57The number one cause of death wobble is a
- 56:59bad track bar, or
- 57:01something in the track bar system
- 57:03Right, the bushing or...
- 57:05And really the stabilizer doesn't do that
- 57:10much as far as curing death wobble
- 57:12So I think a lot of people, they look at
- 57:14that and they say, "Oh,
- 57:14there's a shock there"
- 57:15And the way it's connected, that must be
- 57:17there to stop the death wobble
- 57:19I think it helps, but it will not cure it
- 57:23I don't think you can put a big enough
- 57:24one on there to stop it
- 57:26You have to look at the bushings, really,
- 57:29if you have like a three foot long
- 57:30screwdriver or a crowbar
- 57:32You get under your front end and you
- 57:35start pressing on the front end parts
- 57:37The track bar, the tie rod, all that
- 57:39stuff and you see what moves
- 57:42Be careful what you're doing, of course,
- 57:43because you can do a lot of damage
- 57:45But you try to move that thing and if you
- 57:48get... I mean, and I think this is true
- 57:50Just a fraction of an inch movement is
- 57:52enough to cause death wobble
- 57:54So if you do one tie rod
- 57:57end and it doesn't move
- 57:59And you do the other tie rod end and it
- 58:01moves a sixteenth of an inch
- 58:02You probably need to replace it
- 58:04Yeah, you probably need
- 58:04to replace that tie rod
- 58:05I mean, we're not talking about a lot of
- 58:08movement here for something to be bad
- 58:11Tony, would I tell everybody if you see
- 58:13any movement in any of
- 58:14the tie rods, replace them
- 58:17Yes
- 58:17Do not play games with them
- 58:18Well, it's not worth having a rollover on
- 58:20a highway because your tie rod end broke
- 58:23I do want to read something
- 58:24that Scott just put up here
- 58:25Sure
- 58:26A sign of death wobble can easily be
- 58:28found in your underwear
- 58:30That sums it up
- 58:32Well, if you're an
- 58:33improper wiper, it may not be...
- 58:36Skid marks might be normal
- 58:38You have to check with
- 58:38your wife and let her...
- 58:40Honey, is this normal?
- 58:44Well, I don't think it's the skid marks
- 58:45that you're concerned
- 58:46about with death wobble
- 58:47It's the lumps
- 58:49Yeah, it's the lumps in there
- 58:53Boy, look at all that censored stuff
- 58:57They're typing in the chat room and all I
- 58:59see is "Yeah" and
- 59:00then "Censored yourself"
- 59:02No, because you'll censored yourself
- 59:07Okay, let's go to another
- 59:08question here real quick
- 59:09This will be from Metlik53
- 59:13Hi, XJTalk
- 59:14My name is John Irwin
- 59:16Also known as Metlik53
- 59:18on the XJTalk website
- 59:20And I'm calling from Conroe, Texas
- 59:22Calling from my job
- 59:23here at the Country Club
- 59:26My question is going
- 59:27to be Cherokee related
- 59:28Involving the
- 59:29alternators on our Cherokees
- 59:32One thing I hate is that the alternator
- 59:33is put on the bottom of our jeeps
- 59:35And mine got toasted
- 59:36the last run at Creekside
- 59:38I replaced it with a ZJ136 alternator
- 59:42And it's working great now
- 59:44But I'm afraid if I go back to Creekside,
- 59:46I may toast the 136 too
- 59:48I really love how my A-Z
- 59:50blows ice cold all year long
- 59:52And losing my air
- 59:53conditioning is not an option
- 59:55But I want my alternator moved up top
- 59:58Is there any way I can put my alternator
- 59:59up top and keep my air
- 1:00:00conditioning as well?
- 1:00:02Thank you
- 1:00:02Well, you know, that's a great question
- 1:00:04And I don't like that either
- 1:00:05I don't like that the alternator is down
- 1:00:09there at the bottom like that
- 1:00:11I had very good luck
- 1:00:12with my factory alternator
- 1:00:14I got 167,000 miles and 13 years of use
- 1:00:18out of it before I changed it
- 1:00:20And even at that, it passed the
- 1:00:24O'Reilly's bench test nine times
- 1:00:27But I couldn't think of
- 1:00:29anything else it could be
- 1:00:29So I went ahead and got a new alternator
- 1:00:32Now, I wish I had gone the
- 1:00:34same route as Medlec 53 did
- 1:00:36It was to get the 136 amp thing
- 1:00:38I didn't want to mess with any possible
- 1:00:40refit of blah blah blah
- 1:00:42So I just went ahead
- 1:00:42and got the replacement
- 1:00:43Which by the way, even though my build
- 1:00:46sheet said it was 117 amp alternator
- 1:00:48It wasn't, it was a 90 amp alternator
- 1:00:51So the 90 amp
- 1:00:53alternator is running that winch
- 1:00:55400 watt KC lights
- 1:01:01Every other
- 1:01:02Of course, I'm running a few LEDs which
- 1:01:05helps that situation
- 1:01:06But I haven't seen
- 1:01:09anybody that's moved anything
- 1:01:11And I can think that comes close to that
- 1:01:13is what Steve has done with the second
- 1:01:16air conditioner compressor
- 1:01:17That he's using as a
- 1:01:19onboard air compressor
- 1:01:20Well Scott just put up
- 1:01:22something here that is correct
- 1:01:23On a Wrangler, the alternator is AC
- 1:01:26compressor or change place
- 1:01:28The compressor is on the bottom, the
- 1:01:29alternator is on the top
- 1:01:31That is one way of doing it
- 1:01:32And pretty much anything else
- 1:01:34is you're going to fabricate
- 1:01:37Right, well I guess that's what Steve did
- 1:01:40running the two AC
- 1:01:42compressors side by side
- 1:01:44But I'd have to actually go back and look
- 1:01:46at that and see how he did that
- 1:01:47But right off hand I'm
- 1:01:48thinking that that might work
- 1:01:50The same type thing might work by putting
- 1:01:53the alternator right there
- 1:01:54next to the air compressor
- 1:01:55Now I don't know what serpentine belt he
- 1:01:57used or how he made that work
- 1:02:00But that was a really
- 1:02:01cool setup, I liked that
- 1:02:03Yeah I do too, but I don't know on the
- 1:02:05alternator if that would be feasible
- 1:02:08Is it possible? Sure,
- 1:02:11anything is possible
- 1:02:12But feasible, I think the quickest,
- 1:02:15easiest way to solve it
- 1:02:16would be go to a junkyard
- 1:02:18Find your 4.0 or 2.5 or
- 1:02:20whatever mode you have in there
- 1:02:22And get the entire serpentine belt
- 1:02:24assembly, all the
- 1:02:26bracketry off of a Wrangler
- 1:02:28And put it on your X-ray, that would be
- 1:02:30the quickest, easiest way to solve it
- 1:02:32Well maybe we can get a picture of that,
- 1:02:34that would be a neat thing, a neat little
- 1:02:37virtual project to work on
- 1:02:39If we could get a picture of a Wrangler
- 1:02:40and the brackets that are on there
- 1:02:42And see how that might be able to be
- 1:02:44swapped, that would be a pretty cool deal
- 1:02:46Now another thing, there's actually two
- 1:02:48questions I would like to know
- 1:02:50He said it burnt up, I don't know if you
- 1:02:53were out there that
- 1:02:53time when he was out there
- 1:02:55But I don't know how going out to
- 1:02:56Creekside would have
- 1:02:57burnt up that alternator
- 1:03:00Running underwater in muddy water
- 1:03:04Well I mean we were out there in that
- 1:03:05pond quite a bit and mine was fine
- 1:03:08I mean my harmonic balancer came apart
- 1:03:12but I don't know that that was
- 1:03:13necessarily because of that sandy water
- 1:03:15No, his was still running when it was
- 1:03:19under submerged in the muddy water
- 1:03:21I mean it was like stuck and it was
- 1:03:24underwater and it's only
- 1:03:25going "weeee" and he killed it
- 1:03:28Well then my other question was going to
- 1:03:39be would a skid help stop that
- 1:03:42But I guess if it's
- 1:03:44submerged in water then no
- 1:03:46I guess that if you have something to
- 1:03:48keep the water out of it
- 1:03:50while you're going through water
- 1:03:51And it provides a void underneath there
- 1:03:55and minimizes the water that might help
- 1:03:57By the way I was going to try to sell my
- 1:04:01factory skid, front skid
- 1:04:03But I've actually decided to
- 1:04:04go ahead and put that back on
- 1:04:05I thought it really
- 1:04:07doesn't weigh that much
- 1:04:08And I thought it was kind of silly to try
- 1:04:10to go out and spend $30 or $40 for a
- 1:04:13sheet of metal and
- 1:04:14make one when I had one
- 1:04:16So I'm just going to go ahead and put
- 1:04:19that back on and see if that
- 1:04:20helps the airflow situation
- 1:04:22Anyway let's try to get one more question
- 1:04:25in here before we wrap this up
- 1:04:29I think we'll play Weldman
- 1:04:34Hey everyone this is Kurt aka Weldman
- 1:04:37from XJTalk.com website
- 1:04:39I've got a quick question for you
- 1:04:41How do you guys
- 1:04:42waterproof your distributors?
- 1:04:43I hit a big puddle the other day with all
- 1:04:45the melting snow up here in Wisconsin
- 1:04:47And trucks started sputtering and
- 1:04:49spitting because the
- 1:04:50distributor got doused with water
- 1:04:52Besides using a rubber condom or the boot
- 1:04:55that slips over the distributor which
- 1:04:57ends up holding in moisture anyway
- 1:04:59I was wondering what you guys used and
- 1:05:01how you went about it
- 1:05:02I look forward to your answer, thanks
- 1:05:04So I guess there's some dialectic grease
- 1:05:07and stuff that you can
- 1:05:07put in them can't you
- 1:05:08Isn't there a way to
- 1:05:09waterproof the distributor?
- 1:05:12Dialectic grease around the
- 1:05:13bottom of the distributor cap
- 1:05:15And then on all the plug wires
- 1:05:16number one get good plug wires
- 1:05:18You don't have a problem with them
- 1:05:19And if you end up do have a problem with
- 1:05:21them later on down the road
- 1:05:23You know the stuff that you spray on your
- 1:05:24tent the waterproofs in the spray on your
- 1:05:26shoes and everything
- 1:05:27Spray the f*** out of everything with
- 1:05:29that it will waterproof it
- 1:05:31And Glenn XJRat in the
- 1:05:33chat room says VO5 hair spray
- 1:05:36Huh? Yeah?
- 1:05:38Sure that would work just as well I'm
- 1:05:39sure it's pretty much the same stuff
- 1:05:42And you know I was mentioning earlier
- 1:05:43that how he drives off road
- 1:05:46I now know how he keeps his hair in place
- 1:05:48and those radical moves
- 1:05:50I think he's making
- 1:05:52fun of you there Glenn
- 1:05:55His hair was perfect
- 1:05:57Yeah and any of the stuff that you would
- 1:06:00be applying I would assume
- 1:06:03That after you've gone through water it
- 1:06:05would need to be reapplied
- 1:06:06If you wanted to make sure
- 1:06:07that it was continuing to be
- 1:06:09Continuing to do the job of waterproofing
- 1:06:12Because you know we can
- 1:06:15hit water pretty high speed
- 1:06:17And that's a lot of
- 1:06:18pressure being forced up in there
- 1:06:19And it's going to push
- 1:06:21that grease or hair spray
- 1:06:24Or what else was there 3M or Scotchgard
- 1:06:27all that stuff it could affect
- 1:06:30You know with the tint spray the stuff
- 1:06:32that you spray on your tint
- 1:06:34I've done that a couple times on my Fords
- 1:06:37because they were notorious
- 1:06:38With getting water in these tributors and
- 1:06:40the distributor sitting up
- 1:06:41in front right by the radiator
- 1:06:43And by the fan I would spray it one time
- 1:06:47and wouldn't have to
- 1:06:47spray it again for months
- 1:06:49What is that stuff? What is that stuff? I
- 1:06:52don't know what you're talking about
- 1:06:53If you go to Academy it's a waterproof
- 1:06:56spray that you spray on tints
- 1:06:58Oh I'm thinking of window tint like the
- 1:07:01stuff that makes the glass dark
- 1:07:03Yeah no no it's a waterproof
- 1:07:06spray that you spray on a tint
- 1:07:08Makes your tint water more
- 1:07:09watery, just more waterproof
- 1:07:12You spray that on there
- 1:07:13and it works like clay
- 1:07:15Yes, tints
- 1:07:17Not the female part, tints
- 1:07:19And not the tinting on a window
- 1:07:21But the tint's like you sleep in
- 1:07:23Ok well we're about 11 minutes over what
- 1:07:25do you think another
- 1:07:26question or wrap it up?
- 1:07:27Last year
- 1:07:30Non-committal
- 1:07:32So let's do... I don't
- 1:07:35think we did Dalton's did we?
- 1:07:36But the kit, the four wheel drive kit,
- 1:07:39let's do Dalton's real quick
- 1:07:40We did Dalton's
- 1:07:41Did we do Dalton's? Oh that's right, his
- 1:07:43was the death waddle, that's right
- 1:07:46Who else do we have here?
- 1:07:47Well we'll do Green Chevy
- 1:07:49Hi this is Green Chevy and I'm calling
- 1:07:51from Johnston, California
- 1:07:53My question is where did the Jeep
- 1:07:54Cherokee get the same?
- 1:07:56That's interesting
- 1:07:57Does any... I forgot to look that up
- 1:07:59Does anybody have a clue where Jeep came
- 1:08:01up with the name Cherokee?
- 1:08:04Got me on that one
- 1:08:05Don't know
- 1:08:05I mean that sounds
- 1:08:06like a Winopedia question
- 1:08:08Wikipedia
- 1:08:10Yeah Scott the question was
- 1:08:12Green Chevy wanted to know
- 1:08:14Does anybody know where Jeep came up with
- 1:08:18the name Cherokee for our vehicles?
- 1:08:22Yeah I'm sure it's an Indian thing but
- 1:08:25What was the story behind that?
- 1:08:27I mean there's Wrangler, there's...
- 1:08:29I mean there is a Comanche
- 1:08:31MJ Comanche
- 1:08:33So I can see there was an Indian type
- 1:08:38naming convention there
- 1:08:39But it's kind of interesting
- 1:08:41I guess the Cherokees as a people
- 1:08:45Their warriors were brave and
- 1:08:48they were able to go anywhere
- 1:08:51And I don't know
- 1:08:53I don't know I'm just guessing here
- 1:08:55Yeah I don't know the answer to that
- 1:08:56That might be something worth looking up
- 1:08:57and putting it on there
- 1:08:59I'll have to make a post about that
- 1:09:01And see if I can get an answer
- 1:09:04And we might get as many responses as
- 1:09:07there are ideas as to how it came about
- 1:09:09But it's a pretty good question
- 1:09:11Where did it come?
- 1:09:12We just accept that's what it is
- 1:09:14It's a Cherokee
- 1:09:15Some of us kind of think about the
- 1:09:16politically correct
- 1:09:18ramifications of said name
- 1:09:20And you've got to wonder if that's why
- 1:09:22they changed the name of
- 1:09:23the Cherokee replacement
- 1:09:27Calling it Liberty
- 1:09:29Of course there's the
- 1:09:30Patriot and so on and so forth
- 1:09:31So it looks like they went
- 1:09:32off on a different tangent
- 1:09:34Of course I think that's after the
- 1:09:35Germans bought the company
- 1:09:37Or the Liberty
- 1:09:39Okay guys, well...
- 1:09:41Reenie I sure appreciate you calling in
- 1:09:43I'm surprised we didn't
- 1:09:44have more time for more calls
- 1:09:46It's pretty cool that...
- 1:09:49Two calls and that took up over an hour
- 1:09:53So you guys are good talkers
- 1:09:56I'm mad to not be in stock
- 1:09:58of you good talkers, never
- 1:10:01Well I much appreciate it
- 1:10:02It's very welcome, I
- 1:10:04always enjoy talking to you guys
- 1:10:05Whether it's on the show
- 1:10:06or in person or on the site
- 1:10:09Well Reenie I'm going to let you go so
- 1:10:10that you can bang away
- 1:10:12at your keyboard at will
- 1:10:12I know you've been
- 1:10:13trying to keep it quiet
- 1:10:15Alright man, I will talk to you all later
- 1:10:17You all have a good night
- 1:10:18Thank you
- 1:10:19Alright, bye-bye
- 1:10:22Well guys, that's another show
- 1:10:24And in the can so to speak
- 1:10:26Not to be confused
- 1:10:28with any bodily functions
- 1:10:32Hopefully it's better than that
- 1:10:34And you know people are
- 1:10:35leaving and the show's not over
- 1:10:37I'm watching you, I
- 1:10:39can see you guys leaving
- 1:10:40Who was that that left, was that Glenn?
- 1:10:41I think that was Glenn that left
- 1:10:46Taking names
- 1:10:48Well guys, we've got a
- 1:10:50couple of contests going on
- 1:10:52The FireWire contest,
- 1:10:53the entry period is over
- 1:10:55But we are doing votes
- 1:10:56And it would be good if you could get on
- 1:10:58there and vote for the best question
- 1:11:02And the best promo
- 1:11:04There's seven questions
- 1:11:05that have been submitted
- 1:11:07And there's three promos
- 1:11:10Wednesday next week
- 1:11:11We will know who the
- 1:11:13winner of those two groups are
- 1:11:15And then if, as long as
- 1:11:17it's not the same person
- 1:11:18If it's two different people, then what
- 1:11:20we'll do is we'll do a vote on the promo
- 1:11:23The best promo and the best question
- 1:11:25And whoever wins that vote
- 1:11:28Wins the performance distributor
- 1:11:30FireWire kit 4.0 for the
- 1:11:34Jeep Cherokee 1991 through 98
- 1:11:37And basically it's a better coil
- 1:11:42A better, a much much better plug wires
- 1:11:45And surprisingly, they're red
- 1:11:49And a rotor
- 1:11:51And a distributor cap
- 1:11:55So it's pretty nice
- 1:11:57It even comes with an adapter
- 1:12:00So that you can adapt the plug to the
- 1:12:05To the new coil that goes in there
- 1:12:07And since I got my CPS problem lined out
- 1:12:12I haven't had a Lika problem with it
- 1:12:14I had some issues
- 1:12:16whenever I first got the kit
- 1:12:17That's how I wound up
- 1:12:17with two sets of parts
- 1:12:20And the company, that company was good
- 1:12:22enough to let me keep
- 1:12:23them to do the giveaway
- 1:12:24So the other contest we have, and that
- 1:12:27one's going to be going on through
- 1:12:29I believe the 28th
- 1:12:31Is, and I've just drawn a blank
- 1:12:34What is that contest?
- 1:12:35That contest is
- 1:12:37Ahh!
- 1:12:40I have no idea
- 1:12:41I've drawn a blank
- 1:12:42I was thinking about the FireWire kit
- 1:12:44Anyway, we have a contest
- 1:12:46section, a contest forum
- 1:12:48That you can read up on those
- 1:12:49Get in there and apply
- 1:12:53So that you can still win
- 1:12:55We're on Facebook, we're on Twitter
- 1:12:57And of course you can catch us every day
- 1:13:01www.xjtalk.com
- 1:13:04Don't forget, call in
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- 1:13:08Or questions and promos to 530-675-4102
- 1:13:14Everybody have a very good night and
- 1:13:16thank you very much for being here
- 1:13:18[Music]
- 1:13:33That's right, Pillar Lights, Detours USA
- 1:13:37Pillar Lights, A Pillar Lights
- 1:13:39And those things are
- 1:13:41sweet, those are really nice
- 1:13:43That's some of the really nice
- 1:13:45work that Market Detours does
- 1:13:47It's a set of A Pillar
- 1:13:49Light, light brackets
- 1:13:51And it is
- 1:13:53[Laughter]
- 1:13:55It's, it's
- 1:13:57I forget what you've got
- 1:13:59to do for the contest now
- 1:14:00I am drawing a blank, I guess it's
- 1:14:02because I'm trying too hard
- 1:14:03So guys, have a very good
- 1:14:04night, I'll see you later
- 1:14:06This is Big Jim 350, and I
- 1:14:09have f***ing all of XJTalk.com
- 1:14:12Aww!