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- speaker-0: Good morning everyone and welcome to another episode of the Project Emerald Collective podcast. I'm joined by the beautiful and very knowledgeable Milka Perez from Malva, and she is going to talk to us this morning about her take on intentional living. If for those that don't know me, my name's Eve McIntyre and I'm the founder of the Project Emerald Collective. So more than a marketplace, we're a movement towards intentional living and for women to take their power back. So let's jump into ⁓ the session this morning. Good morning, Milka. speaker-1: Good morning Evie and all the audience that is behind the screen t today. Thank you for the introduction. But ⁓ today I would like to start with a word or a short poem that I wrote a few years ago and I think is perfect for this instance. So there you go. I'm gonna give it a go. I am a woman traveling from the divine to earth. I am a soul carrying the divine within. I am the divine feminine racing. Through my body, through my voice, through my wounds, through my love. I am no longer becoming I am. speaker-0: that that's so beautiful and how fitting for this movement that we're creating. Yes. speaker-1: Now that I I thought I was share with you guys because it's perfect. speaker-0: It's absolutely perfect. Thank you so much. And we'll have that poem as a resource ⁓ for our audience as well. So Milka, ⁓ I'll just get you to introduce yourself and ⁓ touch on the many hats that you wear. And literally you're wearing a hat today for those that are just listening. But Milka has a beautiful felt hat on with feathers. Australian made and it's gorgeous. speaker-1: Yeah. And this is approximately seven years old. So it used to be a beautiful green earthy color and now obviously because I wear it a lot it's losing the natural color, which is perfect because give it a character. So I do love hats by the way. And this is my favorite one. But regarding to my who I am in this moment on this planet, I have a f a few. So The first one is regarding to sustainable living and I do worships and talked and I love to empower communities to from a holistic point of view to live more sustainable in harmony with with their communities and their families instead from a academic data overwhelming perspective. So I do that through my brand Malva. Which is the name of a plant or a flower. And ⁓ I have been doing that for the last maybe five years in Tasmania, but I have a long background from mainland and overseas. And my other hat that I love also is my motherhood. I have two beautiful boys, 12 and 11, so pretty much like twins. And I do have a husband and I'm a daughter. I'm only a child, so I don't have siblings. And my parents are overseas, so I'm a long distance daughter. But I'm also ecopreneur. So ecopreneur for the people who's not ⁓ familiar with the concept is a two words from ecology and entrepreneur, so it's a mix, and it's pretty much making businesses with the environment in as a pilot. So it's the opposite of what corporations are doing. That's a very simple way to explain. And and I'm the house healer. So I prepare our own medicines. I make tinctures. Latterly I have done some soaps and lip balm because now winter one of my sons gets very dry lips. We grow we try to grow our vegetables, but it's very difficult. But we success with a few ones. And primarily herbs for me are the main focus and flowers in my garden. So I use all that knowledge that's coming from my background ⁓ back in Chile and I use it to create product that I sell in my other brand, which is called Luna Earth Magic. And I do my service to the community through that brand at Salamanca Market, where I often get a lot of customers that come in for just to have a word and to understand how they can change the energy field. And I use planned to help. with that. And yeah, that's pretty much my main roles at the moment. speaker-0: I love that. So interesting. And reflecting, like what are the three pivotal moments in your life that have shaped the woman that you are today? speaker-1: That is quite difficult question to to brief in three moments. But I'm guessing the one I remember as a child, it was around the age of seven when I realized that I was a human and I have that ⁓ like that momentum, like looking around and looking adult. And I thought, ⁓ my gosh, this is quite ⁓ very why the humans are so silly? That was my question. And And I felt like disappointed. It's like, ⁓ this is what I'm gonna have to deal with, you know, in the future as a child. It's like, ⁓ my gosh, why what's going on? But to understand my reflection as a child, I think it's that moment when you are losing your ⁓ innocent, you know, because before that it was a beautiful place to live with beautiful humans and then you start understanding and realizing that bad things happen around. And that's when this reflection came to me. But also the background that we need to understand in at that moment Chile was going through a very difficult political time. So we were transitioning from dictation to democracy. And that it was a lot of violence around. So that's when my pivotal moment of gosh, the war Had a lot of violent violence and bad people. And at that probably at the same year, I have also my first spiritual connection. So I'm guessing that came as an answer, like, ⁓ don't worry, no, everything is too bad. You know? And that obviously shaped my spiritual path and my way of living with communities and curiosity to understand other cultures and languages. ⁓ then I will say the second one was twenty five years later when I make the decision to cross the airport doors and leave behind my family, my friends, my successful career to the nothing, which was getting to an aeroplane and came to Australia as an international. students and arrived in Brisbane without knowing absolutely anyone. So that is definitely yes. Super brave but it very hard emotionally, you know, as only child. It was really a pivotal moment of testing my boundaries and my syllabus. And the last one I would say definitely motherhood. To become a mother. because that i it was not on my list of goals in life. My my goals were to be a traveller, a successful entrepreneur and the rest, like whatever. But when I became a mother it was something that I didn't realize that actually I was having some like enlightenment without even knowing because I was writing letters to my son when I was ⁓ in my twenties without wanting to be a mother. So that's very weird. And then when I got pregnant and I knew that that the gender of the baby was a boy, everything clicked. So it was a period of like fifteen years in between when I wrote a letter to a illusionary person in the future and then came to become real. That he was this little boy. speaker-0: Do you remember what the letter said? speaker-1: You have a few letters back at home. So it would be very interesting to find them and read them, yes. But what I have done for both of them I wrote a letter to them when they when they turn one year old and they can read it when they turn twenty first. So the challenge for them is to learn Spanish because I wrote them in Spanish to to encourage them to have to make the effect to to learn my language. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. Amazing. What does living intentionally mean to you? speaker-1: ⁓ I I will say it in simple words, ⁓ sustainability can a frame everything from the point of view of values and pylors, like for instance using permaculture, you know you have values in there and pylors to follow. The spirituality part is completely integrated with sustainability because without values and without understanding that we're part of nature and that we are a microcosmos of this cosmos and many other cosmos, you know, the intention the living intentionally makes sense and join together. So principles I would say is the main ground to live to live intentionally. So what are your values? What are my values? And perhaps we could integrate them and live together a environment that makes sense. for us. And that's the way I try to transmit my message through both brands and integrate them ⁓ as a one in one person, which is my being, you know, my face. speaker-0: Yeah, absolutely. And I love that you're bringing nature and feminine wisdom together. Yeah. Can you chat to us about what you think when you think about the divine feminine, what does that mean to you? speaker-1: Allez. it's quite intense topic and a lot of influences. But if we think if we still think in as we are part of nature and nature is part of us, I will use the story of this matriarchal elephant. So her name is Emma. Emma is the goddess of the tribe and that is because her wise knowledge Of guiding the whole tribe through the desert. And she remembers where the water is, where the shade is. She remembers where the dangerous place are. And if it's some danger, everybody will come together and defend the tribe. So she makes this tribe cross all these different stages to become a successful tribe and live happy together. So this wisdom ⁓ of the matriarchal leadership is what the divine for me is now it means. The divine feminine for me is this return to understanding how matriarchal societies have success still and how we have been being violent and being put in in a very dark placed by toxic patriotism or machismo which is in Spanish. So the patriarchal societies in some through long history and many different stages has deleted or have tried to put the divine feminine aside of the way we live. And I think that's why we are going through this crisis, environmental crisis, a spiritual crisis because we lost that connection, that divine feminine connection that in that incorporate all these different values, way of living, wisdom, respect, medicine. Yeah historically the suppression and the dominance of the systems, you know, have through history, you know, before Christianity, Gaia, nature was the goddess. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: And all the cultures they are they are found I'm not very good with history because I'm divergence of all the the years and part of the history cross. My my timeline is nonlineal, so but I do know in they have found sculptures of goddesses over s sixty thousand years old. So that mean our previous humanity ⁓ communities used to have that connection with the divine feminine and along history through like the Inquisition Inquisition Inquisition in Spanish where medicine and healers were persecuted, killed, burnered like stakes. And and and that delete all that knowledge of speaker-0: Mm. speaker-1: You know, ⁓ doulas, shaman, all the people who have the connection between nature and human beings has been just put it aside. And that caused this unbalance. So the divine feminine for me now is that return, is that invitation to return to our soul sovereignty and and reclaim our power as wise women. speaker-0: Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So what can modern women learn from female leadership in nature, do you think? speaker-1: Everything. Like if we think about fashion because I had the opportunity to work in that industry for many years back in Chile, the old designers know that inspiration to design a new collection or new fabric pattern comes from nature. So what designers do you go outside and observe work, walk in the forest, get leaves, put it together. try to imitate the colors, right? To imitate the textures. So in modern there's always been like that and you any designer cannot deny that they find inspiration from nature. And when you find this inspiration and link it with your power as a wise women and and as a collective, you start weaving weaving this a new way of thinking, this shifting of designing something for a good instead for just to create a garment. Instead create a garment with meaning, with transcendence, with culture, with connection. And that is the slow fashion and that's why we're trying to shift because the consequences of fast fashion are so ⁓ horrendous that speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And it's because they're being managed by patriarchism mentality of make make make and I don't care about tomorrow because I'm not gonna live a hundred years to see it. You know, instead we wise humans have that understanding of the future and our generations and and the sevent generation of as our first nation people understand very well. speaker-0: Yeah, beautiful. What can nature teach us about community wisdom and collective care? speaker-1: I think nature have told us quite a lot. Like yesterday's have been three simultaneous earthquakes in America. Two one two for with a difference of two minutes each. Devastating seven point two earthquakes. Venezuela, Japan, US. So the Europe is having the second hottest wave at the moment in I think they said four. I can't remember how. far apart in many years, but they are desperate with this hot weather. So I think nature is definitely ⁓ talking to us and saying that that we need to act. We need to act soon than we thought. And if we think about the planetary boundaries, we have already crossed six of them. So it is a ⁓ urgent to become empowered and whatever role that you are doing, you have as a woman, we have the power to change things. And I have done it even though I'm a migrant, English is my second language. I'm women. I'm not from a rich family. So you can put all the labels that you want. And at the end, the fact and the result is that I have helped so many people and the community in a very gentle, nurturing, lovely way. That all the time I get comments and I get testimonies and I get messages saying, I didn't know, thank you, you show me this, now I'm doing that. So it any role that you are at this moment, you have the power to get your divine feminine back and use it out. our planet, which is also a female energy. speaker-0: Love that, so interesting. So looking back at your grandmothers, your mother, your father, how did they shape your understanding of strength, freedom and leadership? speaker-1: Well I'm coming from a a matriarchal family. My dad mom, my grandmother's she was a widow living in a farm. She decided to live off the grid on her own and her power was the garden, the herbs, medicines, making medicine from herbs. And I mean thinking about that, like I'm I'm I'm living in a rural area after been living so many years in big cities like the whole Tasmania in one city, pretty much. And now I'm living in a completely opposite a little town. I cannot imagine myself living on my own in this place off grade. And my grandmother did as a choice. So it's definitely a leader in resilience. And then from my mom's side, very similar story. She also was widow. So I did num I didn't have grandfathers in my childhood. I just have speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: grandmothers and aunties pretty much. And she was also living the country but more not that rural. So she had a farm and she was the what we call like sort of the captain of the farm, you know? And she led the workers and she did the work with them. She also was a butcher. So I used to go with her in the morning, take the animals to the butcher and then go have a coffee wait for that process finished and then you know pick up the animal, take it back to the shop and and do all the process of putting the the fringes and stuff like that. So absolutely a leader in the community, she wants awards, she donated piece of land on her on her farm to put a church. So we didn't have to we couldn't have skips to don't go to church on Sundays because the church was literally too many to walk. So every Sunday morning, every Sunday afternoon, church. And she offered the the produ the sylplaus, you know, to the community to share with them. So that leadership in a community environment definitely inherited from her. speaker-0: Yeah, right. I mean speaker-1: And then my mother is another entrepreneur but also a healer. She is a former ⁓ reflexology and chiropractor. So I I saw her healing so many people and so many times I had said to her, I don't wanna be like you. I don't wanna be a healer. Forget about it. You know? And now I'm taking that. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And and then I saw her doing that, but also she was a leader in a very masculine and patriarchal industry, which is the trans industry. She owned a taxis. Compl she was the only female in that environment. That how hard it was. Like she was bullied and sexual arrest and she went through everything, but she was the only woman in that industry. So and my dad, of course, my dad ⁓ hundred percent feminist. He always told me since a little girl, you know, you don't let any man tell you what to do. It's your decision. You don't yeah, that's pretty much he he raised me as a free soul while women, you know, men divine feminine, like very connected since a childhood. So yeah, definitely those all those characters in my life. I have learn and take learnings from all of them to become who I am today. Definitely. speaker-0: Yeah, absolutely. It's no wonder that you're a healer as well in the work that you do and yeah, that you're incorporating nature ⁓ and its lessons into your daily life with your family. So do you think we've become disconnected from these lessons in modern life? speaker-1: Yes, totally. And I was disconnected too. I went through my mundane or or y other people call it shadow work or you call it whatever you want, but yeah, it's part of ne part of nature become disconnected. Also, ⁓ the the important thing is to understand and realize and come back. And that's what we are doing now. This new awakening or this new thinking shift in thinking. how we are related each other as a community is coming back to nature and understanding that medicines first become from nature, yes, and then medicines were capitalized by men that they want to just get profit but then in between life got busier and we need more quick fixes that don't f don't fix the root of the illness. speaker-0: Mm. speaker-1: You know, like I love science, don't get me wrong. I think science I have done amazing discovery. And when science link with the knowledge and the wisdom that we had previously, it's amazing. Like they are hospitals that they use sound healing, they use herbal healings in their therapies. You know, so it's not like it's impossible. It's it's just the way we live. And with again back to the main topic or the first topic about values. We put all those values together. We are creating this life that we all wanted, but we are completely disconnected and don't know how to do it. So yes, definitely we are disconnected. We all have been disconnected. Their spiritual the spiritual journey, you have to have this connection to understand the connection later. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: af afterward thing is as I said realize ⁓ shit, this is the wrong pathway. You know, I make these mistakes, I learn from it, but now I'm gonna walk in the right pathway. And that is the pathway of the nurturing, the gratitude, the values, the sharing and the not keep doing the same bloody mistake e over and over again. Not like mistakes like pollution for instance. So yes, that's my speaker-0: Yeah, thank you for sharing. So touching on the rise of feminine leadership, which you know, the world needs more of right now, we're seeing more and more women stepping into leadership around the world, which is awesome. But what do you think the world is asking of women right now? Well speaker-1: One of the leadership female leadership that I really, really admire is at the moment is the Mexican president. Claudia sorry, I can't pronounce her surname. But if you search for the Mexican president, first is the first female in a very, very patriarchal culture. She is the nurturing wisdom Emma that elephant that we talked before, you know, that stereotype, she's there but with very ⁓ strong boundaries, but with love. That that balance that other president just above Mexico is not. It's the opposite. You can see there that arrogance, that ego, that central piece of everything that I know everything instead of let's do it together. What do you know? What I do know, how can we work and build this? unfair, this unbalance that's been happening for so long, how can we fix it? And then you have both archetypes of the toxic patriotism and the divine female wisdom. And on top of that, related to fashion, she is a my God, her closet, her the dresses she she wears are speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: Stunning. And they are non-brands that you know or I know because they are made, handmade, slow fashioned by the Mexican independent designers. We and the tribes that we've that tribes that use natural dyes. So she represents her culture with outfit on top of that. So at the baiting with all this politicians that they had no idea of everything where we've been talking in this forty minutes. You know, and they point ⁓ the way of thinking is just profit, profit, profit. Zero connection with the environment. With even the clothes they're wearing. I'm sure if the if you ask them why you're wearing, they have no idea. So that is the ⁓ a very good example. speaker-0: You're a convention. Yeah. speaker-1: of leadership and divine feminine together, like using your power to actually make changes, positive changes. speaker-0: Yeah, absolutely. We all have the agency to be able to do that as well. So how is feminine leadership different to traditional leadership models, in your opinion? ⁓ speaker-1: And modern. Well, it's it's again back to simple patriarchism leadership, which is they are it doesn't mean just men have a patriarchal style, because women can be very patriarchal too. Yeah, it's not about gender, it's about the way you think and behave. So definitely I think Tasmanian politicians are very speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: patriarchal thinking. Again if if if thinking in that same using the Mexican president as a proto as an example is the same with many other leaderships and that and those roles. But there are positive changes. I'm not sure in Australia but in Chile They raise at the parliament fifty percent female and fifty percent males as a gender equality sustainable development goal, or using this one of the sustainable development goals, gender equality in the parliament. And I think that is a reflection of a new way of leadership. So if in roles like management, say CEO, ministers, if we have that balance, perhaps we can fix a lot of the mistakes we have already done. But if we don't have that balance and the female in power is still behaving in a patriarchal mental ⁓ mental state and spiritual state, so completely disconnected between their their wisdom, we're gonna still have the same issues over and over again. speaker-0: Yeah, that's true. So can fem f can feminine leadership exist in men too? speaker-1: Totally. Yeah. I'm I'm raising my my ch two boys with that mentality already. You know, ⁓ and it's nothing to do with the trend that the trend on on gender equality or or gender ⁓ identifications. It's nothing to do with being a feminist or not. It's just following the wisdom of connection, of understanding how important is love, nurturing, gratitude, respect. And I can see ⁓ I can see how they behave different than other children's and other and parents and and teachers back to me saying, ⁓ your kids way of behaviour is amazing because they have been raised by n not just me, but my husband also he's a very ⁓ he's very connected with his female energy too. So totally agree and I can give ⁓ my testimony that it is possible to raise boys with their female energy and balance. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, I believe that too. So how do we honour both feminine and masculine energies rather than seeing them in opposition? speaker-1: I think honoring is a very beautiful word. In my case I try to have that energy at home with altars. Okay. So in our house you can find a lot of altars. In my studio you can find altars. The boys have their own altars and rituals that they do for to go back. And I think that is a very simple way of keeping that visually and physically in matter that invisible energy of love, gratitude, nurturing. speaker-0: Yeah, it's beautiful. So talk to us about the altars. speaker-1: So I have here next well, I can't turn I don't know if I can turn there. So altars are pretty much little spaces, you know. I'm not talking a church altar, but I'm talking of small spaces where you can place your items that are meaningful for you. And that remind you that grounding. Like a a candle, you know, remind remind you of the fire, the warmth, you can speaker-0: You can describe it for us. speaker-1: Place your favorite crystals if you want if you have, you can light nince if you like ⁓ the smoke like I too and the the aromas. ⁓ you can have a picture, you know, you can have a icon that when you travel you can have stun that you found when you in your morning walking that you saw it mean something to you. So anything can be placed on an altar that have a meaning for you. And And you can use that altar to remind you how divine we are and in different different ways. So independently of religions, yeah, or independently of dogmas, you can have an altar of anything anywhere, indoor, outdoor, in your garden, for instance. And that is constantly remind you how how we are part of this environment. speaker-0: Yeah, I guess you another way to describe an altar would be an intentional and grounding space. Yes. speaker-1: if you if you have the space. So some people have like for instance when I was traveling when we travel overseas, we travel for eight for a year. Eight months overseas and four and four months in Tasmania. I had a portable altar. So a little box with a few of my favorite items. And wherever I went and I had this, you know, moment for myself, I placed my items and I did my rituals. So you can do also that. like portable and to have it with you when you travel, you know. ⁓ could be something very small and very simple, but yes, intentionally place an object that actually connect you, connect to your soul, to your the meaning, the meaning of of living in this moment. speaker-0: Yeah, beautiful. So at the Project Emerald Collective we talk about taking your power back through conscious choices and that's what we're all about. What role does self trust and intuition play in leadership? Well speaker-1: So divine feminine is all about intuition. So that's what we have been told that we don't have and we and if we have it, it's silly, it's hormonal, it's ridiculous, it's crazy, all those adjectives that we have been listening for two thousand years approximately. Yeah, no, you're too crazy, you're too brave, or ⁓ no, just shut up. You know, just be pretty, sit in the corner and don't get old. Because if you get old you're you're not ⁓ important anymore. You know, that's what ⁓ all these stereotypes on T V is telling us. So it's damaging our instinct. So then then we become this sort of bodies with brain, but we're not connection to our soul. And our soul is instinct. But ⁓ voice that is telling you, you know, take that pathway, better go choose that one instead. You know, the one is telling you maybe don't choose that one. And you do anyway, and then ⁓ you go back home and say, ⁓ I shouldn't listen to me. You know? Because you realize that you made the wrong choice. Because you wasn't putting attention to your divine power, to your wisdom, to your instinct. So yeah, so definitely This is a a reminder that is is making these choices, especially in a country like Australia, which is extremely consumerist and at the moment is from the second most consumerist of fast fashion. Now we we are the first one. So it's like, yeah, we win. No, that's not a win. That is a we won, sorry. That's not a win. It's a it's a shame because the choices that we are making are coming from a linear system of thinking and making and wasting without buying with zero conscious. What make us humans is that our conscious, our instinct, our free will to decide that we are designing this we're taking the wrong choices and making the o speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: making actually I read something yesterday about a report about microplastics. And one of the things that I'm teaching I'm working at the moment is to create these educational tools to empower communities and and groups of youth and focus on youth to for them to understand the current mod model of fast fashion. Okay. And one of the topics in that is the microplastic. And two weeks ago I tested this tool and they were little little girls probably in the age, between seven and eight, nine years old. And we came across this topic of clothing and microplastic and and the question was, Is your clothes made of plastic? And they said, ⁓ no, no way, that's impossible. And I said, ⁓ can I have a look the label of your top? And yes. So obviously they didn't know. So I to like I explained to her what was to them what polyester is. And one of the girls actually knew. She was a little bit older, was like twelve. And she said, ⁓ yeah, I have seen how they do the from from the plastic bottle. Yeah, that's exactly right. So your clothes is made from plastic. That plastic it it have little little things that we can't see, like energy. You can't see the energy that is making this phone work, isn't it? Same with microplastic. We can't see it. But it's there. You know it's there because it's it's doing something. So fifty percent of microplastic is on our bodies. Yeah, so what the scientific research have found in our breasts, milk, men, testicles, you know, ⁓ brain. So the the consequences of this toxic patriarchism and way of thinking is not just damaging the environment, it's damaged ourselves and our kid. speaker-0: Mm. Mm. Mm-hmm. speaker-1: And their kids because they can have problems, they already have many problems with ⁓ fertility. So going back to the first question that you did to me and my reflection about when that seven years old child thinking, shit, look the planet that I am and look how how we're gonna have to deal with these stupid humans, you know, in some point I think we do have an option and we do have hope. And this is the time to do it and the way to do it is this cultural shift when become female feminine, divine, empower, wisdom, those concept happen constantly in our life and constantly talking about it and empowering our w other women's and other men so we can fix this. speaker-0: What happened? Yes, absolutely. And I'm I'm a firm believer that the time is now to make these changes. So what are some ways that we can improve our intuition or embody divine tension within ourselves? speaker-1: I can share a few a few retools that I have been using for a while. ⁓ the first one is journalism. Like I have so many journals and when I go back, ⁓ it it really helps to understand the process you've been through. So retools like writing, the first things you remember in the morning, or to have it or write your own affirmation, positive affirmations. Phrases or copy someone, someone that inspired you and remembers. So many little rituals that we can do to reconnect to ourselves. But for me writing it was a very important one. ⁓ and that's what I wrote that poem that I started with. It was in my transition to from 79 to 40. So that decade that's like, ⁓ my gosh, I never thought I'm gonna be forty, you know? speaker-0: Uh-huh. speaker-1: And it's now it's like it's is it's happening. So when I went to that transition, I was so depressed. So I used journalism to to sh channel that energy in a positive way as I understand that we are nature and we are going to transitions all the time. Yep. And then for me, flowers. Flowers have a super important role in my life, herbs, so These taste or perhaps there are no farm from farms. Perhaps they ⁓ you can grow them like a mint, a pepper mint plant that's super easy to grow, you know. ⁓ and then and then the altars as I mentioned before. And and put all all this i it it depends what what you want and what you like in your life, but definitely those elements can ⁓ empower us and remind us and give us that little extra push, you know, to to don't ⁓ give up easy even even though ⁓ it's a lot of stress and crisis around us. So at some point we can just get sort of protected and grounded, you know, from walking barefoot to pray and meditate. But that's more like not everybody feels confident w with that. But I'm guessing most of the people will be confident to have a bunch of flowers, you know, and the flowers remind you how beautiful you are and how amazing NYCHA is that it can create that those colors, you know, those textures. And and that's when you start reconnecting. You know, I understand that if any of this makes sense for for the people listening this, it's totally understandable. You know, it's it's the process is not gonna make sense for everyone. I don't know if it happened to you or now, but when I was pregnant I never saw pregnant women pregnant women in my life until I was pregnant. Like suddenly it was like, ⁓ my gosh, so many pregnant women, what's going on? You know, so I never noticed so this is the saying, your divine feminine and this power and this awakening, if it doesn't make sense to you now and is it's gonna happen in in a moment that it will you will back and say, ⁓ I heard about this before. speaker-0: ⁓ huh. speaker-1: And it's gonna start making sense. But why I'm sure about this? Because as you said, it this it is the mum the moment. And it's gonna make sense to you anyways. If it's not today, it's gonna be in a few years, perhaps. speaker-0: Hopefully sooner rather than later. Begins with awareness. So wherever you are now, you're exactly meant to be in that moment. So trust that. Yeah, small steps. So do you think women just touching on embodying the divine feminine and just diving into that a little bit more? ⁓ do you think sometimes we need to grieve who we thought we were before becoming who we truly are? speaker-1: Yeah, that's part of the the growing. That's part of the process. Totally. You know, especially in body. Like for me it's been super difficult to deal. You know, because I n I didn't never had body issues. Like I was super lucky to be size eight, you know, lucky because that was the the stereotype that a young woman would like to wear. And curves, you know, Latin American, you know. And and sexy and I didn't have that concern to don't be sexy. Like what that was natural. And then after after motherhood, body changed completely. You know, so you start ⁓ yeah like saying goodbye to that young, beautiful body and and welcoming this different body. And it's not easy transition. You know, that's when those elements of journalism of grounding and having your altar and your favorite prayers or books, whatever, help you to go through that process and not get lost, you know, and this fantasy of you're never gonna get old, in you're always gonna be size eight all your life. You know, all this stress putting on us, which is I think is part of the Patrick Patrick isn't a mental play in on on us, you know, putting us on under that stress because In these days they can't burn us alive anymore, you know, like they did. Yeah. But the way they burn us is they burn us out mentally and spiritually, putting all this these ⁓ marketing campaigns, you know, this archetype ⁓ on on movies, on TV or music, everywhere. And that's what our little girls are listening and seeing. speaker-0: Mm. speaker-1: So it's not just us as an adult. It's also the the victims of this unempowered little young girls. speaker-0: Uh-huh. Yeah, that's so true. And what we consume matters. So and where we spend our time, energy and money matters. So I guess that's what the movement is with the Project General Collective is to take that agency back and think about think more consciously about the power that you do have, ⁓ in changing your life and the next generation, the next generation's lives as well. speaker-1: I mean if if we think ⁓ sorry you to to close what you're just saying because it's very, very powerful. If you think think in one word, think in consumerism and search and learn what that means. And I'm not gonna we shouldn't tell the meaning, but ⁓ encourage to everyone who's listened this to do your own research and find what part of that is making you making the wrong choices. That's it. speaker-0: And start from there. Yeah. That could be the place that, you know, the the females listening or the ⁓ you know, anyone listening to this podcast could start there. It's just to take that one step this week. So, Milka, what does taking your power back mean to you personally? speaker-1: to do whatever I want. Well I always been kinda like that. But ⁓ of course because now I'm not on my own anymore. It is quite difficult to make those decisions, you know, to say I want to do this, but actually well I can't because the children's because the husband, because the grandparents, because this and this and this and so taking my power back it's been challenging, especially in this location I would say. geographically geopolitical location. Even though it's a a beautiful place, apparently it does have the challenges. However, my power however this has teach me another lesson, which is power. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: Pose, think, wait, have your boundaries clear and and just pose that calm calm your mind so I can sing properly. And that's have ⁓ translate to me to design to working in this project of designing this education tool at the moment. But also keeping keep keep myself grounded through my other brand to Lunar Earth Magic because that's taking me out to the garden. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. Any type. speaker-1: didn't have that entrepreneur adventure, I probably would be sitting with my laptop all day. As I used to do back in the days, working in in the industries and living in in concrete cities where that connection, you know, with nature was broken. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: So now I'm feel completely more empowered because I own my ideas and I work on my ideas. Those ideas I know are powerful and I know they're meaningful and I know they're gonna make a positive change. They have already done it. I just need to pursue it and continue that pathway, which is I'm happy with this pathway and that everything's gonna flow, give me what I need to continue on that pathway. speaker-0: Absolutely. ⁓ what advice would you give your younger self, Milk? speaker-1: Younger self. That humans are not that horrible that I thought. But they are beautiful souls. And we are joined and founded each other, like as we did. And and they are definitely like don't be afraid. Yes. That would be my my advice. speaker-0: So if women listening today remembered only one thing from our conversation, what would you hope it would be? speaker-1: Okay. I I think it would be what I wrote last night. Divine feminine is not is an invitation to return to our soul sovereignty. It's small phrase, but I believe it's very powerful and is aligned with what we've been talking for an hour. And what I would like to you to remember that in this conversation it is an invitation to return to our soul. sovereignty and we can do it. speaker-0: Love that. So what does soul sovereignty mean for people just starting out on their journey? speaker-1: is to understand first that you are not just a brain and a body that is an energy inside of us that is connected to a more powerful energy that we may not see because we are used to to touch this, you know, see this thing, but inside of us is the soul that is connected to our instinct that is is ⁓ method methodology is being methodology, I don't know how to s I don't know if that makes sense, but they had been say from the marketing point of view, they've been planned to delete it from us and make us just a thinking body but not a feeling sentence person. And where were we going through now to this evolution to ⁓ artificial intelligence, that is exactly where it is intelligent, no soul. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: That's what's the difference between the objects and the human. So we've been gifted with this ⁓ element. And that element is part of all of us and we have forgotten and we have to recover it. And sovereignty is mean we own it. It's ours. speaker-0: Yes, that's so true. So I've loved your conversation today, Milka. Thank you so much for joining me and our audience. And there's so much wisdom that you've shared. Where can people find and connect with you? speaker-1: I have a casual stall at Salamanca Market in Howard, Tasmania. So you can follow my Luna EarthMagic and see me there. In person, you can invite me to your community and create, or if if you're working in any sustainable living project, you can invite me there and we can connect through malva.com.io. Online, my Instagram, my Linkin. speaker-0: Great. I'll put those in the show notes and ⁓ reach out to Milka if you'd like to work with her or learn more. And thank you so much. And ⁓ there will be extra resources that we will include for our audience as well. So thank you, Milka. speaker-1: Thank you, Evie. Have a lovely sunny day today. Yes.