Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 259. Who is Maya Lopez, AKA Echo, in Marvel Comics?!
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- 0:10Hello, Marvel fans, comic geeks and nerds in between.
- 0:12My name is Megan, and I'm here with another character
- 0:14breakdown. And it is actually not a mutant,
- 0:15but this idea to do a character breakdown for this character
- 0:19came from a listener actually. So thank you so much for that.
- 0:22And I can't believe I haven't talked about Maya Lopez before.
- 0:26So obviously we're going to talk about Maya Lopez, AKA Echo.
- 0:30Echo first appeared in Daredevil Volume to #9 in November of 1999
- 0:35as Echo. Then she appeared in New
- 0:37Avengers #11 in September 2005 as Ronan.
- 0:41Then in Avengers Volume 8 #44 in April 2021 as The Phoenix.
- 0:46So she has worn many, many hats. Maya Lopez really got handed the
- 0:50most main character trauma package imaginable.
- 0:53She was born deaf, but her lip reading skills were so insanely
- 0:56good that no one even realized for years.
- 0:59Like she was out there decoding conversations better than people
- 1:02with perfect hearing while everyone else stayed clueless.
- 1:06Her dad, William Lincoln, was a member of the Cheyenne Nation
- 1:10and secretly worked as a mob enforcer for Wilson Fisk, AKA
- 1:13Kingpin. You might have heard of him
- 1:15because apparently having one stressful job was just not
- 1:18enough. Fisk and William were close
- 1:21until Fisk decided William had outlived his usefulness, which
- 1:26is corporate speak for it's time to get shot.
- 1:29As he was dying, William begged Fisk to look after Maya, and
- 1:33when Maya found him, he left a bloody handprint on her face
- 1:36that basically became the emotional equivalent of a
- 1:39permanent Windows error message. So Fisk raises her afterwards,
- 1:44which is already the worst adoption option ever.
- 1:47He first puts her in school for kids with special needs, but
- 1:50then Maya casually copies an entire piano performance after
- 1:53hearing it once and Fisk was like oh OK, she's terrifyingly
- 1:57talented and moves her into a gifted school.
- 2:00Instead. Maya throws herself into art and
- 2:02dance and basically becomes one of the people who are unfairly
- 2:06good at everything. You know the type, the Zendaya's
- 2:09of the world. Then Fisk decides to use her as
- 2:13a weapon against Daredevil because this man truly wakes up
- 2:16every morning asking how can I emotionally ruin Matt Murdock.
- 2:19Today he arranges for Maya and Matt to meet while Matt is
- 2:23grieving. Karen Page Ripi guess then lies
- 2:27to Maya and tells her Daredevil murdered her father.
- 2:31Naturally, Maya goes full revenge mode and has a valid
- 2:35crash out against Daredevil. She studies footage of Daredevil
- 2:39and Bullseye fighting like she's prepping for her own finals,
- 2:42then absolutely wrecks Matt in combat.
- 2:45Matt's over here confused because he recognizes her scent
- 2:48and is trying not to hurt her. Meanwhile, Maya's fighting like
- 2:52she's trying to speed run vengeance.
- 2:54She eventually pins him down, pulls a gun, and explains why
- 2:58she wants him dead. The only reason this didn't
- 3:01become a murder scene is because random kids nearby thought the
- 3:04whole thing was some weird live action superhero performance
- 3:07art. After a few more fights, Matt
- 3:10finally convinces her Fist lied to her and Maya responds in the
- 3:13calmest, most reasonable way possible.
- 3:16She shoots Kingpin in the face and blinds him, and it's fair.
- 3:21After that, Maya leaves the country to find herself, which
- 3:24mostly involves traveling the world, visiting art museums, and
- 3:28trying to emotionally recover from having the most exhausting
- 3:31childhood imaginable. She eventually returns to New
- 3:34York, hoping to reconnect with Matt, only to discover that he's
- 3:37already moved on, which is brutal.
- 3:40So she heads back to her father's reservation, reconnects
- 3:43with her roots, and goes on a vision quest in the woods.
- 3:48Inspired by stories about her father, Maya eventually starts
- 3:51performing in theater using sign language, dance and music.
- 3:55Matt attends one of her performances, and when she
- 3:58kisses him goodbye, he already knows.
- 4:00It's the kind of kiss that says we are absolutely not
- 4:03emotionally healthy enough for this relationship.
- 4:06Then things somehow get even crazier because comics refuse to
- 4:10let anyone rest. Maya joins the New Avengers
- 4:13under the Ronan identity after Daredevil recommends her to
- 4:17Captain America. She infiltrates the Hand and the
- 4:20Yakuza in Japan discovers Hydra's involved too, because
- 4:23apparently every evil organization has a group chat
- 4:26together and spends a lot of time trying not to kill ninjas,
- 4:29even though they keep making that extremely difficult.
- 4:32She fights alongside The Avengers, uncovers rumors that
- 4:36Elektra is actually leading the Hand, and decided to stay in
- 4:40Japan to monitor things, which goes badly because of Lectra
- 4:44eventually takes her out. Except not really, because Comic
- 4:48book desk have the same reliability as a low battery
- 4:51warning on a laptop, which is saying something 'cause my
- 4:55laptop low battery means nothing to me.
- 4:58Maya gets resurrected by the Hand using dark magic and
- 5:00brainwashed with drugs, then rescued by the New Avengers.
- 5:04For a little while she's running around under the evil influence
- 5:07fighting her own teammates before Iron Fist and Doctor
- 5:10Strange basically performed the magical equivalent of a detox
- 5:13therapy. Maya snaps out of it, kills
- 5:16Elektra, and then everyone discovers Elektra was secretly a
- 5:20scroll the whole time. Because Marvel absolutely loves
- 5:23saying surprise alien. Afterward, Maya sticks with the
- 5:27New Avengers and lives at Doctor Strange Sanctum Sanctorium
- 5:31alongside Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and their baby Clint
- 5:34Barton. And probably an unsafe amount of
- 5:37unresolved trauma. Clint becomes the new Ronan,
- 5:41Maya gives him her old armor, and the two eventually start
- 5:44dating after bonding over feeling out of place on the
- 5:47team, which I don't think it's talked about enough.
- 5:50How busy Hawkeye's libido is in Marvel's comics.
- 5:55So I just wanted someone to know.
- 5:59She later survives a squirrel invasion, goes undercover as a
- 6:02stripper in Los Angeles, teams up with Moon Knight, and
- 6:05seemingly dies again after getting blasted by Count
- 6:08Nefaria. But years later, she pops back
- 6:11up alive, because at this point, death for Maya is more of a
- 6:14temporary inconvenience than an actual obstacle.
- 6:18Then things go fully cosmic. Her life gets weirder.
- 6:21That's just how it's going to go.
- 6:23When the Phoenix Force comes back looking for a new host,
- 6:27Maya enters the Battle Tournament against a bunch of
- 6:30Marvel heavy hitters. Neymour beats her nearly to
- 6:33death at the bottom of the ocean, because fighting the King
- 6:35of Atlantis underwater is objectively unfair matchmaking.
- 6:39But the Phoenix sees something in Maya.
- 6:41Resilience, adaptability, and probably the fact that she
- 6:45refuses to stay dead. She will not stay down.
- 6:48So the Phoenix resurrects her and chooses her as its new host.
- 6:53Meaning my Lopez, former dancer, assassin, avenger, theater
- 6:57performer, professional survivor of emotional devastation,
- 7:02literally becomes the Phoenix Force.
- 7:04As the Phoenix, she helps save reality itself.
- 7:07Fights alternate universe threats, joins The Avengers
- 7:12officially, battles multiversal villains, travels through time
- 7:16to meet prehistoric Avengers, and eventually burns through the
- 7:19Phoenix power protecting the multiverse.
- 7:22After losing the Phoenix, she leaves The Avengers and goes
- 7:25searching for her missing cousin, only to discover her
- 7:27cousin joined a Wellness cult run by the Purple Man who is
- 7:32Jebediah Killgrave because apparently Maya can't even
- 7:35investigate family drama without stumbling into supervillain
- 7:38nonsense. Through everything she's been
- 7:41through, whether it be betrayal, murder, resurrection, ninjas,
- 7:46alien invasions, toxic relationships, cults, or
- 7:50becoming a literal cosmic Fire God, Maya never stopped trying
- 7:54to figure out who she really was.
- 7:56What makes Echo so powerful is that no matter how high the
- 7:59stakes are against her or how many times the world tries to
- 8:02erase her because of who she is or what she was born without,
- 8:06she always comes back fighting louder and harder than ever
- 8:09before. She is a hero in every way,
- 8:12especially with the unfair advantages life had to offer
- 8:15her. So that is Maya Lopez.
- 8:17I love her as a character. I wish we would see more of her.
- 8:21We did get just get a one shot and that's it.
- 8:27I want to see her back. I think she's great.
- 8:30And again, thank you to the listener who asked me to make
- 8:33this video. I really enjoyed making it
- 8:35because I will always look for an opportunity to read up on my
- 8:40Lopez. So with that being said, I hope
- 8:43you enjoyed this episode. I hope you like and subscribe
- 8:45and I hope you have a marvelous day.