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#592 - DJ Snake Speaks on DJ Culture, Hip-Hop Roots, Paris, World Events + Untold Jadakiss Story & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We hear man? We got a special guest, one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite DJs, one of the Goats, DJ Snake. Welcome sir.
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  Speaker 1: Howre you doing? Bro? Hey? Man? I gotta say I
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  Speaker 1: saw you. Last time I saw you was in Thailand.
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  Speaker 1: It was your first time I believed doing a headlining
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  Speaker 1: hip hop festival. Set was that. I know, there was
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  Speaker 1: like the there was like a big deal about that
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  Speaker 1: set because you did all hip hop at Rolling Loud
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  Speaker 1: in Thailand. Yeah. Uh it was fun. That was fun. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I loved it. Yeah, it was different. Thailand's a crazy place, man,
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  Speaker 1: So much fun out there. Yeah, Bro, And good crowd,
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  Speaker 1: good crowd vibes, food is fire. Yeah, it's amazing. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, Man, I want to say I always got
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  Speaker 1: to give you props because you know, I was living
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas in like twenty ten eleven twelve when like
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: the EEDM pop started to really happen, and like during
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  Speaker 1: that time is when you would see all of these
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  Speaker 1: guys come to town and they weren't necessarily really DJ
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of guys they would have these like
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  Speaker 1: pre planned sets on and able ten and they were
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  Speaker 1: kind of just like twisting knobs. And but you still
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  Speaker 1: are like true to the ship. Like you're the only
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  Speaker 1: guy I see who's on your level that does the
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  Speaker 1: type of ship you do that's still using turntables and serato.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a nightmare for like my team on big
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  Speaker 2: stages and stuff like yo, can you imagine.
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  Speaker 1: That because the writer, because everybody else is on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: even like the like the stage is always like moving,
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  Speaker 1: we jump around. Course, do you use needles still or
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  Speaker 1: do you use the yeah needles, but like most of
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  Speaker 1: the time just to be safe, like I played the
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  Speaker 1: phase joints or use yeah, like the internal mode on
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  Speaker 1: theto but yeah, you'll mix it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just lazy everything. Everybody thinks that I do that
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  Speaker 2: for the culture. I'm just lazy to switch.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. It's funny because I've watched you, h I've
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  Speaker 1: watched you and how you have your Q points set up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And like it's brilliant because when you have the internal
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  Speaker 1: mode the way you do it, you have your Q
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  Speaker 1: points set up like, yeah, that's what I do on
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  Speaker 1: the plane yeah, every song like no, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's great man. But for you man, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back. I didn't know that you
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  Speaker 1: you started doing graffiti back in the day. Yeah. Well
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  Speaker 1: I was really young, like you were like like outside
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  Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen. Yeah, were you like, uh getting to
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  Speaker 1: the point where you were like kind of known in
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  Speaker 1: that community in your hometown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, like the I had like some
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  Speaker 2: big graffiti artists in my building, like some ogs, like
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  Speaker 2: right in Paris, and he was everywhere, you know, that
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  Speaker 2: type of artist that's like you go to Amsterdam and
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  Speaker 2: at the train station is like he's having like the
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  Speaker 2: biggest like big refity ever and you're like, damn, that
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  Speaker 2: dude's everywhere. Like he was one of the eros, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like from the city, and I wanted to do like him,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So I started doing this on the trains everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, my name was Snake.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone was getting arrested by the police. But
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  Speaker 2: I was young, and I was like I was running fast,
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  Speaker 2: you can get away, yes, all the time, and until
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  Speaker 2: I got caught and I got in trouble, and my
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  Speaker 2: mom was like, yo, you gotta relax.
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  Speaker 1: What what was the sketchiest shit you got into where
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  Speaker 1: you had to run from the cops or because for
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  Speaker 1: people who don't know, like when you do are a
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  Speaker 1: graffiti artist, it is while you're hitting your pieces, like
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  Speaker 1: it's stressful, like.
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  Speaker 2: It's super dangerous or so because you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: doing the train a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Which is probably insane.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy because sometimes you know, you do the train,
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  Speaker 2: but there was another train coming in the nights and
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't stop. So when you're like twelve thirteen, like
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  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, Like this is the butt of close calls. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like don't do that kids, Like it's really dangerous. And
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  Speaker 2: and then I got into music, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like it's obviously a natural
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  Speaker 1: progression because it's one of the elements of hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: It's graffiti, you know. Yeah, it's easy. You know, like
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  Speaker 1: I try to wrap. I was bad. I try to dance.
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  Speaker 1: I was bad. How bad were you wrapping? Now? And
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  Speaker 1: like how hard did you try? Did you record anything? No?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I did, Like I'm a homie place,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like he used to wrap, but I was
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  Speaker 1: so bad. Did you go by snake as a rapper. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I have no name yet. I was. I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: It just fucking off, just writing lyrics like yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: playing around pro tools and shit, yeah, you know, rapping
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  Speaker 1: on the shook ones, and of course it'd be shook ones,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I just I think the DJ was perfect for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was like shy you a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Do you remember, like, uh initially because this
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  Speaker 1: when you first me and you were around the same age,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm assuming when you first got into DJing it
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  Speaker 1: was at the beginning of maybe the beginning of the
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  Speaker 1: end of vinyl and the beginning of serrado. Is that fair? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: I was like fully vinyl vinyl yet, because I was
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  Speaker 1: touring with like with Crates. So the vinyl thing for
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  Speaker 1: back then, like it was a lot harder and a
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  Speaker 1: lot more expensive for you to like get into this
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  Speaker 1: thing because you had to buy doubles. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people would buy doubles of records, of course, was not cheap.
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  Speaker 1: What was like your do you remember like your first
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  Speaker 1: like pieces of vinyl that you bought that you were
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  Speaker 1: able to kind of like do doubles with cut back
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  Speaker 1: and forth with. I think that was a gangster records. Gangster, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just to get it up. Oh hell yeah, yeah that's
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  Speaker 1: fire like huge. Did you prom your fan? Of course?
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  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I had like those records like double
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  Speaker 1: doing like it's like you gotta have both to kind
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: of like practice of course of course did you? So
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  Speaker 1: from that point until what point do you feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: where you have enough creates of records to be able
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  Speaker 1: to go to a party. Do you feel comfortable?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah too, yeah too, you know you need the big records,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of years? Was it like a year? Like
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  Speaker 1: I would say, how long is that process where you
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  Speaker 1: like are comfortable, like, okay, I know what I'm doing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years, three years at least, I want
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  Speaker 1: to go to a party. Now you had, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you needed all the his classic records. You got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to put together like a two hour set, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the song for the girls, you know, like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: needed like a lot. But you know what I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: about back then was requests weren't as possible like let
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  Speaker 1: me the fuck alone. I brought what I brought. I
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: don't have it, sorry, I don't have it. Well, nowadays
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: people be like let me drop YouTube, I can drop you. Yeah,
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: funk out of here. No, do you even deal with
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: that to this point? Like, because I'm sure you dj
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  Speaker 1: for like some of the most like elite, richest motherfuckers
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  Speaker 1: alive sometimes in the crowd or at the clubs with
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  Speaker 1: you at a certain point, Like do you remember the
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  Speaker 1: last time you took a request while DJing.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was like Connor, Mike Gregor or some
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  Speaker 2: ship you know in Vegas, like you won and he
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  Speaker 2: came to celebrate the body with us, and and he
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  Speaker 2: asked me some biggie, like you play biggie only.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great request. I mean, yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't mind. And he's a cool guy, you know, like,
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: and plus he won, you know, yeah, you know there
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  Speaker 1: was a moment, a moment, and then I'm fine with biggie.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: I can play biggie all night. That makes sense. Man,
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: talk to me. Uh this new album back in business?
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm sorry you have new you have you
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: have three songs on the New Shoreline album. Uh. Yeah.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: By the way, the New Shoreline album, it's like top
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: ten album of the year for me. I just told, oh,
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: geez this when I saw him last week that Shoreline
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: Twins record. I don't know if you did that one,
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: but that songs fucking crazy. But which records did you
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: do on that album? I forgot which one?
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: Aaron helped me on this one, remember all the because
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: we we had so many songs together.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like was was was that initially you connected
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: with g Z or was it a phoenix flexing thing
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: or like how did you get first? You know?
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: But both my boys and super Humble guys, you know,
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: like they came to Vegas to party with us.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: We connected. You know. It's like there's such an LA
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: like so important to LA culture and like, but I
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: didn't know how big they were, like to be honest
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: with you, but I knew it, but I knew like
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: who they are, but like like they are very very
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: like respected. No, they're here, and they influenced like all
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: this new LA shit that's going. It's like them and
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: Draco the Ruler kind of like influenced all this shit.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: And I love it, you know, and to me, that
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: was fun. That was a good challenge to me to
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: do like those, to make those like West Coast type beats,
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: you know, because I love this vibe and yeah, I
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: want to make some more with them.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like bpm wise too, like the worst for me,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: well lines up with all your biggest hits. Yeah, bpm
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: wise one hundred Yeah, all right, so you end up
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: start doing the party ship, uh with with your crates
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: with Vinyl. At what point in time was ed M
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: kind of introduced into your repertoires of DJ because obviously
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily the big I mean, I may be
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: in Europe it was different because I'm speaking from an
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: American perspective, but I'm assuming back then.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: No, in Europe is different, especially Paris because you know
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: we had deat Punk, you know.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: Deaft Punk is like so influential.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, national heroes, you know, and like justice like all
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: this clear you know, like this team of those guys
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: like were like killing it, David Ghetta, Bob Sinclair, Martin Selvagg,
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  Speaker 2: all those guys. So we grew up with hip hop,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because I'm from like Paris, and Paris is
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  Speaker 2: like the second market of hip hop in the world.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like huge, like the hip hop culture and general. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's massive, Yeah, it's massive. So we grew up like
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: I grew up in the hoods, so it's all wrapped.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there was no electronic dance music at all.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: But like we like around like the like ninety eight,
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: you know, like when daft punk was like on fire,
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: like all those guys, the French Church and everything like
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: that was really interesting to me. Like we used to
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: go out in the club and certain clubs didn't play
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: hip hop. They were playing like house. It was still
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: a vibe. So I was like, you know what, that's interesting,
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: But I was not ready. You know, it's late, late late.
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  Speaker 2: When I got tired of playing those same hip hop
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  Speaker 2: nights in Paris, I was like, you know what I
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: want to do this, Yeah, I want to play like
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  Speaker 2: at least like fifteen minutes house, you know, a quick
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: like a session in in in the party, and people
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  Speaker 2: were not trying to hear no house music.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go to hip hop club, like I
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: own a club in Scottsdale that's strictly hip hop, and
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine somebody. We actually book somebody once to
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: try to like do like eat like a couple of
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: E d M remixes of like some trap songs or
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah nobody was here the ship here, no,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like if it's a hip hop party. So
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: people like I was.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: I was the resident DJ in like one of the
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: most iconic club in Paris, like the very like rap
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: shit like Alchemist was playing there, like just playing everyone
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: was there, you know, like and I used to play
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: there like every week, and I was just tired to
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: play like the same records over and over, you know,
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I was just tired of this ship. I was like,
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: let me try to, you know, to play like a
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: couple of records, like somehouse ship, like just to let
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: it breathe and I could go back to hip hop.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: And people are like, no, I feel like you have
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: more free him as a DJ. And at that time
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: that was not the wave, you know, like people were
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: like going to a certain clubs to play of if
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: you're a d M, if you're gonna do an DM set,
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  Speaker 1: you have more freedom because I feel like a hip
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: hop set, people want to hear hip hop records as
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: they know them. Yeah, as on the d M side,
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: you could kind of like you could play a bootleg
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: that nobody has ever heard because it's in the culture.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: It's a part of It's.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Like the bootleg culture, like the remix culture. It's a
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  Speaker 2: different type of energy. But I remember, I remember one
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: time I was playing in this club and someone threw
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: fos ones at me.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: When I played like death punk one more time, they
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: threw forces at you. Yes, And this is the moment
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: where I was like, you know what, I gotta go
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. Fuck that such a big song. Yeah, the
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: guy was like, Yo, I'm going to spend the old
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: like the rest of the night with one shoe on
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: and and fuck like fuck that dude. Yeah, imagine that
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: guy was so mad you played that song that he
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: committed to walking around with one shoe the rest of exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to say in English, but
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: my English was not good enough. Fucking crazy, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like fuck that, you know, like I'm out, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna do something else. I want to start like you know,
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  Speaker 2: playing like whatever the fuck I wants, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: it was not easy because at that time, like the
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: open format thing was not a thing, you know that
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: there was. There was not the wave like you were
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: like hip hop or you were like electronic, no nothing between.
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  Speaker 1: get back to the interview. A lot of hip hop shows,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure come to Paris, right, Were you able to
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: like open up for any anybody, Like.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Snoop I did, Snoop I did, Lilu Wayne, I did,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: like a couple of things. I was young, Like when
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: you see like those pictures, I was like seventeen years old,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: like you know, a baby.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: You were like a prodigy out there going crazy. Yeah,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I mean learning, you know, learning so fast forward. When
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: does the EDM shit really start to like work where
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, is it? Like, do you you start
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: expanding the production side? Was there a moment because we
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: knew you? I feel like when you were already a
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: thing in that world. When was this the transition from
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you like doing hip hop clubs, fucking around with EDM clubs,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and then that turning into like, oh, maybe I want
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: to put out a record. Maybe I'm want to probably
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: mix it my own shit.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Probably like two thousand and seven thousand, yeah, two thousand
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: and six, down seven, two thousand and eight. I was
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: watching a lot of videos from DJ am Oh yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: shot to a man, Yeah by days, Yeah, And that
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: was not what I wanted to do. But I was like, Okay,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: he's doing his thing, like mixing everything together in a
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: good way. He was like the mashup guy, the guy
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: who made that ship a thing in the flyaway, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: and that was really interesting, you know. So and then
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I started producing, you know, I wanted to make my
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: own music, and it took a long time.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: What was do you remember the first song that you remixed?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe you made like a bootleg of or you made
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: like the first song where you were like, yo, maybe
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it's a like DJ's snake edite I pick. I think
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that was like.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: The ODB record, like ya like house remix fire, But
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: don't check it out on the internet.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: You don't want to hear that? Is it? Still there.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I'm gonna pay something, he said, nobody.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Now that we've advertised it, by the time you see this,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: it'll be deleted. What do you like like back then?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Is there's not Ableton back then? What do you like?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: What do you first of all? Like, what were you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: using to produce on then? Reason? Reason? Are Are you
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: still using reason? What do you use? No? No, I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: not a built it now? Yeah, Ableton, I feel like
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in terms of just like an interface for that, it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the best ship. I mean everyone's you know saying like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: everyone's got pro tools, I got the thing. Some people
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: use logic, but yeah, like I feel like I've seen
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like on Ableton, like you can like it's got the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: grid with the bpm. It's like if you're doing DJ
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: shit like any it's super easy.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: But like people on the on pree Loops are saying
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the same thing, and everyone has their own thing, you
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: know at the end of the day is just like
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the idea is like your vision one hundred percent.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Uh So you got a new album on the way, Yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it's coming out. Uh, I'm not going to say it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: We're not going to say right, We're not going to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: say it, okay, but a new album is on the way,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: yeah October, Okay, in October is this album? What is
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: kind of the direction of the album?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: It's the same is some djsnake shit, you know, like
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: just is my third album, and uh and the first one,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the second one was like a bunch of everything, was
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like a journey, like a mix of everything, like some
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: electronic shit, some rap shit, some some Afro, some house,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: some Spanish.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You know, that's what I do. It's like a no,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you have a palette, man, you have a big pat
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I mean if you just look at all your records
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: that have like really really like like.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like doing like a project, like full
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of the same shit.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Right, like a whole hip hop project.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: No, just like a party like even my set, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I can't do like a full like house set. That's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: boring to me. Like I get very like I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: know how to see this, but yeah, I get bored quick,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you know, pretty quick.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And it's have you ever like cause you and I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: talked a little bit in Thailand. We're just talking about
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: just some of your favorite hip hop albums. I know
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you're big Wu Tang guy, and you mentioned gang Star earlier.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to reach out to like tap
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: In and like maybe do something because I feel like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you working with like ghost Face Killed would be crazy
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: or you working with like.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: That's funny because I met with ghost Face in Saudi
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Arabia a couple months ago. I mean like that was
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: back in December, I think on January, like the Wu
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Tang was performing before me. Oh yeah, and backstage, you know,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I linked up with the ghost Face. We were talking
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: on ig and uh yeah, we love to do something
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Like if we do like a boombab DJ snake banger.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah that would be I mean, we got some ship
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: on the way to be honest, now we go now
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: we ghost Face Killer, but we got some ship that
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you're going to.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Be on your album or just stuff that you know, yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: After the album that's for me. But like this is
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: from something else and that's tight. That's dope.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yo. When was do you like like break me down?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Like because I feel like the DJ economy with the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: boom of the DM boom that happened just kind of
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: changed where DJ started to kind of get the same
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: respect that like rock bands and like a list pop
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: stars would get in terms of like, you know, the money,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the headlining, you know, all this shit. Do you remember
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the first time or the first gig that you had
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to be in your pockets or
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: anything where the money was so substantial that you had
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to like be like what the fuck they won't pay
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: me how much? Yeah? Yeah?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, bro, that's crazy because the first time
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: like my shit really blew up was after it turned
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: down for what you know, the record was number one
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: everywhere was massive. That was insane, and back then I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: was like, I mean right before that, I was struggling
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: paying my rent, and like a months later, I was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: number one everywhere, getting shows everywhere, and like everything went
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: pretty quick, like from one hundred. Yeah, and I couldn't
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: speak English at the time, so imagine me being from
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Paris struggling, and like a week later, I mean a
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: month later, I'm like everywhere and everyone's reach out, like
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: reaching out to me, trying to work, trying to sign me,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: trying to do deals, me, touring the world like like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: getting offers and the money is crazy, and I'm like, bro,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I was like my fridge was empty like a month ago,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and now like I'm signing those deals like multi million deals,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you know, like.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And then at that time that's like a because I
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: was like twenty thirteen, right, yeah, and at that time,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that's like the craze, like peak craze of like they're
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: trying to find the next whoever. Yeah, you know, so
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: they're probably I'm sure you had everyone calling.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone, and even the artists like yo, I mean
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: this artist wants to do a session with you.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: This and this and.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: That, and I'm touring and and I don't understand, like
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I'm lost, you know, like I was like, what the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: fuck is going on?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: This is too much. What's crazy about that song too,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is that gave Little John like an entire other like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: life of.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to John, like he changed my life,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you know, like I'm not going to say that, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: he blessed me with this because he was legend. He
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: was like he was not like super hot at the moment,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: because even some people were like why Little John, like
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you know, that's he's done whatever, And I'm like, bro,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the words like he's a legend. He's a legend, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: he's always going to come up with some you know
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: like h.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And then well the thing too is I think what
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it's almost like him and Fat Man Scoop at a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: certain point in time, God bless fat Man Scoop. Rest
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: in peace. Like if you're a DJ, you're playing like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: some sort of like vocal track of like body breaks
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: or breaks. So little John, it's like it's just it's perfect.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's just over some medium.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do like a DJ too, right, Like
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that was not like I was not even trying to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: make like a hit record because to me, until this day,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how that ship get big because, like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: like you said, like folks like four words and I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: remember when you when you send me those vocals.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I was. I was telling my friend, I was like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: what does it mean? Like what is this ship like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: turned down for what? Like because at the time you
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: don't speak English, no, so you don't understand. But I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was like that sounds hard to me. I don't know
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is saying, but that's hard. So I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: was like, fuck it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You know, we drop it for free on SoundCloud and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: John was like, nah, we can. We can't drop it
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: for free. You trip it And I'm like, bro, I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: don't know nobody. I don't have no labels. I don't
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: have no lawyer, I don't have no team, Like it's hard, Like,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: let's give it to the DJs first and let's see
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: how it goes. And John was like you tripping, Like
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: we can't do that. We can get a big bag.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, bro, which bag? Like, let's drop it first,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: give it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: To the DJ So who won? Did you drop it first?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: You dropped it first?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I dropped it first, you know, on my Sundcloud and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that ship was getting like one millium like plays every day,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: boom boom boom boom boom.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: It starts popping up and people and then people were.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Calling like Universal Sony like every labels, and they were
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: trying to more money, more money, And I.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Was like, John, you see it, it worked, And do
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you remember who who the first? Like really big DJ
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was who played it in their set that you were
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like scritics play yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, critics did Dipplo two a track like got to
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a track? Yeah, like all those guys and then you
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: know like yeah, like mine, it was over. Yeah, my
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: life changed forever.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Damn. That's crazy man. Yeah, it's wild too because when
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I when I was I was chopping up a little
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: John and he was saying essentially like he's like, Yo,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that record like gave me a whole new run and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: put him in a new space. You know what I'm saying,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: because yeah, he was a little John on the East
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Side boys the crunk shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So now it stope man. So for you, I want
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to give you props because we talked a little bit
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: about this in Thailand. But you know, I've I've noticed
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: over the last year because the last time I saw
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: he was in November last year. What's been going on
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in Palestine has been like undeniable that that you've seen
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a lot more celebrities speak out that. I feel like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we're dead silent on on that, but I feel like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate you because you've been, you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: very very as outspoken as you can be for somebody
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: who's a DJ, and for what's going on over in
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Gosland in the West Bank and all that shit was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: there because I know I dealt with it myself, talking
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: about it in interviews and posting stuff and people say, no,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you should take that down, You'll fuck your money up.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that you dealt with negatively taking that stand?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And it's the right stand obviously staying with humanity, standing
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: with Yeah, you know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, like a lot of people were
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: like upset, you know, uh with me. But you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: when you feel like you're doing something right, like whatever.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Happens happens, Yes, you let the cards fallowere they fall? Man? Yeah?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You know, like if you don't want to book me,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to play my ship, you
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: don't want to do like I'm just trying to say,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you'll stop boone people that's just locked in like I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: don't know how how many kilometers, but like, yeah, let's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: just stop killing everybody. Yeah, that's just not right, you know.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And and it does like it doesn't matter like.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Where, like like the religion or like the color. If
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that ship was happening in South Beach, that would be
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the same thing. I would be like, Yo, don't fucking
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: bomb South's Beach for two years straight. You know that
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: makes no sense. And like the the collective punishments like
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: this is not right.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's like illegal.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's like, you know, if if some dudes from
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: like Hollywood like just start doing some crazy shit in
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: uh somewhere in New York, like it doesn't give the
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: rights to New Yorkers like to bomb like West Hollywood
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: all day, Like I mean, yeah, the U n the.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: United Nations yesterday officially said they did an official boarder
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: commission and they officially the United Nations. This is this
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: is they said that they are committing a genocide. So
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that's what the United Nations.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But like, go back to my tweets. I've been I've
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: been tweeting like this for like two years.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: That what I'm saying is That's why I think it's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: important to point out that, you know, a lot of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: people I've noticed it's like I'm like, what were you?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Like this has been going on for years. But that's great.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not good. I'm not blaming nobody, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: like if you just woke up, welcome, right, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: because we're not enough, like we like this, these things
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: needs to stop, like we need to go back to
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to building together, like you know, like yeah, man, humanity bro,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Like you know, it's been two years. Like everyone is
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: like against each other, like posting like we wake up,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: we we I mean.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I turn on my I checked I checked my my socials.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I see babies, you know, like dead on the floor
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: like blood. We don't want to see that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see it. Like we pray for everyone.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: We want peace, you know, we we artists, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: we want to spread good vibes and good energy, like
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm praying for the like for for everyone for sure,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: because that she's not gonna go nowhere, because those kids,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna they're gonna grow up and they're gonna
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they're gonna ask for revenge, and that she's never gonna stop.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: It's a never ending cycle exactly.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: And when we say like free Palistine, we say free
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Palistine because everybody deserve freedom, Like you can't live like this, yeah,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: like not even animals. You know, if like you see
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: somebody doing this to animals, like.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Like in the United States, does they'd go to jail
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: for sure, exactly. So you know, I think we just
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: need to pray for like that sounds corny, but like
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: for peace. You know, we want to cease fire.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: We want to we want to go back to normal
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and shout out everyone to say we got love for everyone.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not a it's not a it's not
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a religion thing. It's not a racist humanity.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's not it's just like a political thing. And uh
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: and Nathania who is a monster, you know, and fun that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: He's a monster. He should be in prison. And you
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: know I never vote for anything, you know, I don't.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not into politics. But you know, we don't need
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: people like that, right and ever? Yeah, are you are?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Because I know in France, isn't there like a issue
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: with the with the government right now in France some
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: shit going on with the Macron. Are you like engaged
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: with that at all? Do you, like I'm not, you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: we're one of the biggest stars out of the country.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, like I had some issues, you
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: know when when I was talking about Palestine, you know
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in France.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the president like like the office called my team
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to be like, yo, take those tweets down because you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: have such a huge influence that like you creating tension.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You know, everyone's gonna you know, well, and then I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: think that people don't understand that they're there. Y'all don't
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: have free speech like we do technically. No, that's bullshit,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that's what I heard. I've heard. No, that's bullshit because
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think you have free speech. Oh no, no, no,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think we do either, but I mean in
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: terms I think I think that we think that France
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: has like we have the First Amendment in the United States.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: This is bullshit. And I don't disagree with you, by
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm aligned with you on that, Like this
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: is bullshit like anywhere in the world, like if you
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: cross the line, you cross the line, and you in
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the danger zone. I'm telling you right now, because you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I was. I was very loud. I was very loud,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and they didn't like that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And until this day, my Twitter is shadow ban wow,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: until this day because they don't want me to, you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: to express myself and to tell.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Did you end up taking the tweets down? No, it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: still on, Like.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I have like a hundred thousand with tweets and everything
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: because I was going at him, you know, and I
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: don't really like I don't do that normally, you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I don't go and talk like politics. I don't go
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: against the president because to me, bro, a president's not
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: gonna change shit. Like look at the last you know
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: ten Like I mean, I don't know how old you are,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: but like the last five president of the US or
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: like the five the last president of France, nothing's changed,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: like this is the same ship over.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And over, especially in Gaza. Yeah, nothing's changed since anywhere
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: in the world. But yeah, for sure, that doesn't change anything.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I don't trust in politics.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I trust in the poles, like trying to get better,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, I'm next to were next to
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: each Other's what we're doing, what we're doing for our community,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: what we're doing for our city, what we're doing for
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the next like those kids in my block, right, you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: when it's close to you, like those things, like one
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: guy is going to change like the lights of millions
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: of people.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in that ship. That's not possible. Ask
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: what you know. I don't like I don't wake up
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in the morning and I don't go vote like that's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: not I don't. I don't believe in that ship, right yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I mean especially here, like.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Anywhere in the world. That's that's what That's what I'm saying.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: But your problem is not like just American It's always
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: been like this, you know. So No, I'm not the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not the enemy of the of my president. I'm
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: not his friend.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And oh I know, man, I saw I saw his
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: wife hit him in the face on that airplane. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, they get down crazy in friends, don't
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: don't you fight with your girlfriend or your wife? Oh
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: for sure, Like those people are just like us, you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: they're like everyone else. And uh was crazy though, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that's it, you know, and we just prayed for like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: better times. That's it you already know. Man. Want to
• 33:06
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• 33:15
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• 33:16
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• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Follow him on Instagram at slap woods. Let's get back
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to the podcast. Can you tell me, because you've done
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: some of the most insane crowds ever, what has been
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: your most surreal performance where you just looked out over
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the sea of people and you're like, this is fucking crazy.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Like you've done everything. I mean, you've done it all,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so like what is kind of that that one show
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that sticks out to you? Though, I don't know, Bro,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but like you tell them, like,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it could be capacity, it could be vibes, it could
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: be maybe you had guests. I mean, whatever it is.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I mean we did like.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Four one hundred thousand people, like maybe more like free
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: shows in Africa.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: We Bro, I've done so much.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you one, you know, but hometown shows
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: are special for sure, Like it's you know, the thing
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that I just did in I did a stadium in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Friends for like a the thousand people sold out in
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: three minutes.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Three minutes. Yeah, that's crazy because you know that's that's
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: your city and you don't want to fuck up. You
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: don't want to suck it up, and so much pressure.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: You want to do good. You want to you know,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: your family is here, like the old city.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Do your friends like and you're back in town because
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you know, like this, they follow me, they support me,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the showing love all around the world. And when I'm
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: back home, like they're like, Okay, you gotta turn up
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: like crazy because we see you everywhere all around the world.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Like when you come back home, you gotta you gotta
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: bring the fire you did you performed on the arch too, right, Yeah, Dad,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: that was crazy too.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: That's nuts. Yeah that thing is how old is that?
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: The things have been there since? Yeah? But like next
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the next thing we gotta do or the Eiffel Tower,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the Lover or like you know, if you do a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: set in front of the Mona Lisa or some sure,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but like right now we have some smoke with the presidents,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you gotta wait, you gotta
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: wait for sure. Who's for you?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Because can you give us any any of the features
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on the new album? Can you give us one? Can
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I yeh uh, we get a yes, Future Future let's go. Now,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: did you bring Future to your world or did you
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: kind of go to his world a little? We're mixed.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: We we met, Like, can you give me the BPM
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of the song? It's very interesting vpm to be honest. Okay, yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: eighty eighty Yeah, I like that was eighty Yeah, yeah,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Future in that eight. I feel like futures in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: like eighty to eighty five. It's a very DJ like that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: There's some DJ ship right here. The bpm. I don't
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: know if anybody's gonna get it, but like yeah, like yeah,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: his last two big songs, I like that was eighty
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and then or eighty two I think, and then Too
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Fast was eighty five. Yeah, that's it. That's his bag
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: right now. But yeah, that's hard.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: That's a turn of And there was somebody else the song,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna tell you because he just signed
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the fucking PaperWorks right now. That's why we're waiting for
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: him for the for the album released. But uh, that's
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: a crazy one.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Is that? Is it? Because I feel like the uphill
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: battle when you put a DJ album together, right, because
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you have so many different artists is the hardest part
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: getting all the clearances and oh it's a fucking nightmare
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: because you're dealing with all these different camps, all these labels, and.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: First of all, like like just getting the like two
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: artists to get together, you gotta be like, it's politics
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to lie.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes like someone's gonna cut the song
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and then the next day you know that they're not
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: cool anymore, and you're like, bro, what am I doing now?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I put this out? Now? Yes, I need somebody else
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: on the verse, and then you damn near got to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: pick and choose exactly, and then that's gonna make someone
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: else feel sometime.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Both like they both love the song, like you gotta
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that's a Yes, it's politics.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, you've been through that before. Hell yeah, of course.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Do you kind of just pick who the best, the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: best verse, the best versus better that's it? Yeah? Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Has it ever gotten to like where you like someone's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: feelings were hurt that you removed them off of something, No,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, they don't follow me and ship
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: on Instagram? Oh my god, Yeah, I think yeah, I'm
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: not gonna start doing it. Don't say who, don't say who,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: but but but it's happened. Someone hasn't followed. Yeah, juicy J.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Juicy J was Matt really yeah, yeah, I love you.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Let's work again. But Juicy J even gigs from the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: UK gigs is thope, Yeah, I love just because you
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: took them off something.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like it didn't make sense, like all those
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: American rappers, and he was like in the middle, and
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted to.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a long story, but sometimes you know
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: it's about violence, you know. Yeah, I mean, look at
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, I just saw like when
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: metro Booman put out Heroes Versus Villains, And this is
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: before we knew he had any issues with Drake. There
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: was like Drake was supposed to be on one of
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the records down Tolliver was on and he was like,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I took Drake off because I just thought artistic it
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: sounded better with like it's your album, right, so it's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like you got to make sure you're not forced it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I do feel like a lot of DJ albums, but Drake, Like, no,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: for sure, but I do feel like a lot of
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: DJ albums compilations, especially in the hip hop space, it
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: feels like a lot of forced verses together and it
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't ever really feel organic. And that's what I'm not
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: trying to do, right, do it for the names, you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: like just do it because it's for this makes the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: song better, Like if the verse is not good, like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna make the cook you know. Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And and speaking about like Metro, like we're doing a
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: back to back in Saudi Arabia in December, me and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Metro Booming hip hop set.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: That'll be crazy. Yeah, there's gonna be nuts. Hey, Metro Booming. Man,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he's on a run. No, he's the men. Would you
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: work on a like, like, would y'all get in the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: studio maybe work on a beat together? No? Hell yeah easy?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Because for you, Like, I feel like people don't understand,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like if you're not in the game. It's like a
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: lot of producers sometimes will get loops or they'll get like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like the collaborative effort of being a producer,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: especially in hip hop. Sometimes you'll see people produce post Hey,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: if you got loops, send them my way, send them
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: my way. I feel like you're a Metro booming something.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I don't really do loops, but like I don't mind,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, just dope, like if something sounds hard,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: like use it, that's it. Metro and even Mustard most
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: is my guy, Like I love Mustard and we both
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: like in the same bpm, you know, since we speak
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: about BPM, Like, uh.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you still if you get inspired and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you like a song enough, will you make a will
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you still funk around and do a remix of it? Yeah?
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: For sure? Like what's like, what's the last song that
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you maybe you didn't end up doing it, but you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: wanted a remix? Good question? Fuck I think was a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Bona Boy record, I'd be crazy. I love Bna Boy.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what the Thames Thames? Okay, I fucking
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: love her. She's incredible, Like her voice is crazy and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I did a remakes but we couldn't clear like not
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: clear it, but she was not doing like any uh
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like sending out stems type shit. So you know we
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: moved on. But yeah, because for you, it's like if
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a if I'm a remixer, like send me the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a cappella. Yeah, but it has to be like at
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: least original, you know, to be out on on like Spotify,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Apple Music, you know, because now, like that's the problem
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: with like music nowadays, Like it's it's impossible to go
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: on SoundCloud to drop some like bootlegs, some remakes, like
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: they take it down the labels and everything shout out
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: into scup in the building in scope. Yeah, stop sucking
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: up the culture. Let us do the fucking bootlegs. Interscope
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: stays fucking up my YouTube channel, Lord forbid, somebody wrap
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: over an Interscope beat on my fucking show. It's flagged
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: thirty days to fucking Sunday.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: But you know, like now it's uh, I feel bad
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for like young DJs and young producers, right because you
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: can't like just think of something and just do remaxs
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: and drop it for the streets and for the DJs because.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: They get taken down. Yeah, fuck man, that's that's annoying.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: It's crazy they just counted as a as a stream.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Here's even like an attack on the on the DJ pools. Now,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it's like certain DJ pools. I'd be like, fuck if
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: something comes out on Epic, I know I can't get
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: it on fucking BPM Supreme. No, but we got to
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: fix this and shout out DJ City, like DJ City, BPM,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: all them guys.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Of course you're doing a great job and this is
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: important for the culture. And if label I mean, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: mean to Day like, I mean, I'm sure the label
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: knows that it's very important for them.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: To you know, you want to cater to DJs. Do
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you want those DJs make it easy for DJs to
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: play your music.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in front of the human to create that buzz
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: you know, in the streets and the club and uh
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: so stuff fucking like stuff sucking.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Up the culture. Yeah, no, it's it is crazy. Talk
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to me. Uh if you had to put together your
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: mount rushmore of rappers all time? Who's it? Who's who's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the top four? Who's your top four? Man Dead or
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Life are Alive? Of course? I mean Biggie jay Z,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Jeddykiss and back, Jada top five, Dat are Alive? Yes,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: off one LP man. Yeah, I mean have you got
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to meet Jada Kiss? Yes? I got a crazy story
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: involving Kiss. Yes. I was really young. How young is
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: really young? Like graffiti days? Young?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Probably like seventeen, Okay, New York City, first time ever
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: in New York and I was in uh in Brooklyn,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: staying at my friend's house, and you know, I was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: like hanging out with those like Synegalese dudes that's selling
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: like bootleg mixtapes on Kenna streets.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Oh buddy, that's how I got my name bootleg HEV.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Literally my entire come up was smirting music from some
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Interscope records.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: So my boys are from Senegal, so and they're over
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: there like you know, hustling all yea, and they're selling mixtapes.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't speak the language. I don't
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: speak English.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: People from selling other speak French, right, So all day,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: every day I'm on Canna streets with them, hanging out,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: snapbles in my hands, selling mixtapes with them. You know,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: my boys were like, Yo, we gotta go, We gotta
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: go get something. Can you take care of the stand?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Like the shop, the store right got you? But I
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: don't even speak the language, so I'm crazy to say, yes, Bro,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: we're selling the new Jeddakis mixtape, like jay, I mean
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: that that that week that was Jadakiss and DJ Caseley
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and we're selling bootlegs.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Ply d Block tape. Then Bro, Jadakis arrived. Jadakiss comes,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: he comes while you're selling a pirated version of his yes,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and he goes off and you don't know what he's saying.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I heard like you knew he was right,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: right of course everyone knows the bad words.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: And he's going crazy and he has a dude with him,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: like with some dreadlocks smoking like ashesh.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, how the fuck did he found
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: like some ashish in the States? You nobody to smoke
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: weed anyway, Jennakis doesn't give a fuck. Egos crazy on
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: me and I'm like, listen, my bro, me no speak English,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Me no speak English? Sorry, he said, that's my ship.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You're selling my ship. That's fake. And bro, he takes
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the old ship and like put everything on the floor
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, and mind you your homies hadn't
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: come back yet. Nah, but I supposed to be overlooking
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the spot, like I'm by myself getting pressed by Jeddakis.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: That's and I'm seventeen and I don't speak English. I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: never told this story like this is a word premiere
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: for you, and bro, like I'm like, and you're a
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: fan of Jady, like I want to take a picture
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: of him, right.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: He wants to fight me, right, And I'm seventeen from Paris,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, bro, what what do I do? You know, like, oh,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: shit is fucked up. My friend's gonna be mad.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your friend's gonna come back has a very scary
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: motherfucker with him looking looking at me crazy and I'm
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like trying to survive in his ship. I mean New York, bro,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I was sweating. Trust me. Did your friends believe when
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: they got back then? Yeah? Kissed everything up? Yeah, because
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: all the DJs, like I think Kesley was coming with
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: like a baseball bats fucking up those stores and ship.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: So that was like something very common in New York.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Like when the artist shout out to case Lay fucking
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: legend rest in peace. Yeah, man, that is fucking what drummer,
• 46:44
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  Speaker 1: happened with the watch? Got a fly? Fuck it?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, So let me tell you. I used to go
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to Thailand a lot. Yeah, and I bought like a
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: fake Ublo watch. Okay, MBK Center, MBK Center exactly.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: So you know I bought a fake Ublo. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's too expensive. I can afford a real one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look fresh. Nobody is gonna notice this. And
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• 49:45
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• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I play and I play and I'm wearing the watch
• 49:53
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  Speaker 2: thank you for rocking Ublu at your Ultra Music festival sets.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, bro, that's crazy, that's a fake one.
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  Speaker 2: And they're just like and they shouted you out. They
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  Speaker 2: just show love. So I'm like, so we we get
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: in touch. Yeah, and I saw I signed a deal
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: with them off a fake one, off of a fake one.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: So I signed a deal with like a Ulu and
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: we did the collab for a watch and everything for
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: like five years. And everything started with a fake watch
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: with a fake like one hundred dollars watch from Thailand.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah. I went to UH when I was
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: When I was there, I was, I was like, this
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: is crazy that this place exists. But they take they
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: got the back wall and that's where they have like
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the smoke, the really nice fakes. So the dude's like
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: trying to tell him. He's like, yo, this is a
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: one to one Rolex. He's like, of course it's five hundred.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: This one's a hundred, but this one's five hundred. But
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: no one will tell you. Shit. Yeah, it's crazy. That's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: fucking wild though.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: There, So how like how crazy it is to sign
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: a deal with one of the biggest like watch off
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: of a company much.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, think about that one hundred dollars investment you made.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You know it was an investment at the time, you know, no,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: no insane. Yeah, so a lot of things, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like this happened to me. My whole life. I feel
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: like you have such a dope come up dude, and
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you're still very much like
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a DJ at heart, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I mean I've been doing this my whole life. That's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: why I am. You know, that's it. That's the only
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: thing I can do my life. Do you can you
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: tell me what? Because I feel like, as you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: because you mentioned this a little bit earlier, but there
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: is like what came out of the Amen or the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: am Era was a lot of like am shit, Like
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: you said, he did it without being corny. It was dope,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: but there was like there's this whole underbelly of like
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: really corny remixes. How do you know, like to walk
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the line when you do a remix or you do
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: some sort of edit to not make it cringey as fuck?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Because there are some really cringey party break you know
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about?
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Until this day, Until this day there bro you see
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: like this ship on TikTok that's popping and I'm not
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: doing no remix that mean, right, Like what the fuck
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: is this ship? Like I grew up with gangster with
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Wu Tang. I grew up with like daft punk. You
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: see myself doing a right. No, there's no no like
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: fuck this ship.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Even that, like you said, even the TikTok. I feel
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: like TikTok's open it up for even like lower low
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: hanging fruit motherfuckers will be doing remixes on their little
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: pads that was already pre produced, but they're just making
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: it look like they're doing it live. I mean, shout
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: out to anybody hustling.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they might even make that that thing, but but
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: it is, it is a little it's even like the
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: group I don't know who's doing like this song, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: who did that song, but shout out to them because
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: then making money.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: You know, they're making money. They're trying to, you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: take care of taking care of their family and everything.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm not like I don't knock the hustle.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Right, but yeah, they gotta do. Like here's just something
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: like the TikTok. It's terrible, bro, the TikTok DJ like
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: twenty second flips or mashups that are like the most
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: obvious low hanging like wordplay shit.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh my god, it's always gonna be
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: some good shit and bad shit out there. So you know,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be like talking shit about TikTok.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: It's just that now seeing like I mean, the people
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: that's on TikTok doing their shit, the kids and everything.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: You know, let them be in kids, that's fine.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: But when you see like some real DJs, like respected
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: DJs or like very famous DJs.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Following what's going on TikTok, man, you corny, super corny
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Like you a superstar, you a legend, and you over
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: there like doing some dance in front of your fridge
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and your kitchen, like bro, I rather stop music, quits music.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: You know, you're never gonna see me doing no like
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: no bullshit like challenge.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: God bless you for that. Do you feel like the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: eed M wave has kind of turned more into like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: kind of the the more house vibes as opposed to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: like the big drops. It's not music, is that fashion?
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: It's a cycle.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know today is gonna be afro house, and
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: then it's gonna be like melodic techno, and then trap
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: music is gonna come back, and then mom button is
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: gonna come back, and then we're not gonna play like
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, afro house gonna is gonna die and then
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: something else and big room and it's just like a
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: cycle over and over over and over. Like one day
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be wearing like skinny jeans and.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Then oh, everyone's wearing fucking Jinkos, Like did you guys
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: have Jinkos in France with the big ass pockets. Everybody's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: got fucking Jinkos on Like.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: It's so in two years gonna be like like skinny
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: jeans again, and the baggy again and this and that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: It's a cycle. It's too baggy for me. It's getting
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: too baggy. Did that ship in the nineties, I was there,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: So stick to your like Gki's or I just I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: just just regular fit. Yeah, classic ship, Yeah, give me
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: a classic fit. I don't want my pants over to
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: cover my shoes like when I was a kid. I
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: don't need that ship dragging from my all right, So
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: album's coming out in October. We know futures on the album.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: That's a good thing. And uh, are you handling any
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: production for anything outside of your stuff? Are you doing
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: like sending beats out? Yeah? Yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I can't I can't speak about it, but we got
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: some shit going on and it's gonna be fun. Dylan
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Francis on the album.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Too Shout out to Dylan one of the funniest human
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: beings of all time.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Bro the best. That's my brother. You know, like we
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: stopped talking for like almost five years. Why some bullshit,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: you know, like some ego bullshit, bad comedy. I'm really
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: bad with communications, you know. So it was tripping and
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: then he blocked me. And now you guys unblocked. Yes,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: because you wanted to come to the to the to
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: the show in Paris, my hometown show at the Stadium,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: and I was super happy to see him. We hung
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: out and then we worked on music and we ended
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: up like making a song together and he felt like
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: we never left each other, like so like nothing happened.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: What is your at all? Your big songs obviously got
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: let Me Love You, Taki, Taki, lean On, turn Out
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: for What's the Life Changer? What's your like one song
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: that if you like you're kind of tired of, Like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: is there a song that you're like enough? I get it?
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some moments I'm like, man, I don't want to
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: play turn Down for what right? I don't want to
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: play lean On. I don't want to play Taki taki,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: but you know, and sometimes so like I stopped, I
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: stopped playing them, you know during those big shows, and
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: then the next I mean right after the show, like
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: people are complaining you didn't do turnout for what?
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I came just to hear, like, lean on, what
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the fuck? You gotta play the hits? Yes, So now
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I understand when like fifty cent was saying like it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: tired of in the club, he probably hates. But imagine
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: like going to a fifty cent club a concert and
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: he's not performing in the club. You're gonna be pissed,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: But I get it now, and so I think it's
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: just like sort of moments you're tired of the song,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: you stop like playing it, like for for six months,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: and then you bring it back.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Any up and coming DJs you want to shout out
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that are doing any dope remixes or dope production that
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: are on the come up.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Remixes? I don't know, but like new Shit there is
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: like a kid, I mean he's not a kid. He's
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: like twenty twenty four, twenty five. His name is Trim
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: is French. He's doing Heart Take No Shit's Fire. I
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna He's gonna have a big year. Who
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: else give me some Yeah, just San Diego water boys
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: like those kids on Fire, I mean NOC too and
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Isogs so are already like super fire right now. But
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: oh like the old crew is like super creative and dope.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Have you been able to tap in with any of
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the ship, like any of the Mexican instead of cracking
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Like I mean I did the song with Pistol Pluma,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: but the new ones, yes, there was, and like jop
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: and those guys. Yah, yeah, we're talking to them like
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I love what's going on right now in Mexico because
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: they have their own ship.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: They're not trying to.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Sound like it sounds different than anything. Yeah, they don't
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: try to sound like Puerto Rican or like Colombia. Like
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: they have their own wave and I respect that.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And now shout out to the Mexicans from La you
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: worked with our brother Shoreline Mafia one more time. Yeah,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: my guy, jeezy man, listen man, looking forward to the album.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you pulling up an album coming in October. We're
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be at the Sphere Friday by the time this
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: comes out. We already hung out at the Sphere and
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I was high as a fucking drafts coach. DJ Snake Man,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother. Respect there it is