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Bechoros 38 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

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SPEAKER_00: Bihar is David Ches.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start by the Mishnah on the bottom of Lamchas, but I'll of credit to Penny for uh getting us there yesterday.
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SPEAKER_00: But we're continuing along to discuss the different mumin that would be qualified as a mum kavua to be to now go ahead and allow you to sell a bihar.
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SPEAKER_00: Because you're only allowed to sell it almumai once it gets a mum kavua.
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SPEAKER_00: So once it gets a real mum enough that you're allowed to sell it.
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SPEAKER_00: The following mumin, we start off the parak discussing different mumin that are gonna be considered good enough mumen, and on that note, the Mishnah continues.
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SPEAKER_00: Harish Shela'i.
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SPEAKER_00: If as a rush in the eye, we're gonna discuss what that means.
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SPEAKER_00: That got a hole.
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SPEAKER_00: Basically, it got a hole, a nick, a split, different types of holes.
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SPEAKER_00: Harainoi dak.
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SPEAKER_00: What if we got a duck in its eye?
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SPEAKER_00: So a duck, I'm pretty sure it means uh cataract.
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SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna see a discoloration type of cataract.
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SPEAKER_00: It got in the masifta says uh krum.
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SPEAKER_00: Krum is generally like a layer over it, but it's a discolored one.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna see the differences between a dark one, a black one, and a white one.
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SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be very prevalent to think about.
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SPEAKER_00: But either way, if we got a duck, if we got a cataract in its eye, or tavlul, which is a mixture, if it got a mixture of of color in its eye, or chilazin, or nachosh, if it got a snail or a snake in its eye, so this is obviously not a snail or snake, but it's something that's the shape of a snail, the shape of a snake in its eye, or athov, the correct gear so is really over here.
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SPEAKER_00: The enav referring to a grape type of structure in the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: These are all gonna be considered a movement that you're gonna be able to shaft.
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SPEAKER_00: Sorry, that you're gonna be able to shacht the bahar based off of.
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SPEAKER_00: A zoo tavl.
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SPEAKER_00: What is a tavl?
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SPEAKER_00: So the tavl is a mixture of color in the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: So lavana paisik bassira, vinichnas beshochra.
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SPEAKER_00: That's if you have the white of the eye, so every eye, even animals, they have the white of the eye, and then they have the inner pupil, the inner uh black of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: So lavana paisik biserah, so the laven that goes through the sera, the sera is the ring.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the word for it?
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SPEAKER_00: The iris.
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unknown: Iris.
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SPEAKER_00: Iris.
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SPEAKER_00: So the white that you see some of the white breaking out through the iris, Vinihnas Bishochr, going into the pupil of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: That is considered the tavlu.
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SPEAKER_00: And bishoch, vinichnas, belavon ain't a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: However, the opposite is not gonna be a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: If you have some of the pupil breaking outwards through the iris going into the white, and you see like some of the pupil uh spilling out, and you have black in the white part of the eye, that's not gonna be considered a mum we're gonna see in the Gemara, because anything in the white does not render it a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: So the black is totally fine.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have white in it, so that's no problem.
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SPEAKER_00: But the white has black in it, it doesn't matter because something on the white is not gonna render this animal a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: And with that technical Mishnah, we start the Gemara.
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SPEAKER_00: My haris.
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SPEAKER_00: So we start off the Mishnah with the wrist shela ayan.
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SPEAKER_00: So if we got a hole in the wrist of the eye, it's gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the wrist?
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SPEAKER_00: Amarapapa turabaradein.
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SPEAKER_00: It's considered the out, it's the outer layer of the eye that's referring to the eyelids.
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SPEAKER_00: If the eyelid was netka, mesta, nikke, if we got any type of hole in it, the eyelid, that would be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: Dok table.
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SPEAKER_00: So we said the dock, which was the cataract, a certain type of color to have tablo is the mixture.
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SPEAKER_00: So says on this note.
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SPEAKER_00: Dok meshuka.
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SPEAKER_00: If it had like uh uh indented cataract, if it was lowered down, that's considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: If it's more floating in a mum, it's not gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: Says I'm about to have a brys saying the exact opposite.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you, yeah, we do have a brysis saying the exact opposite, but it's not a kasha.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: Like kasha, how bishop love.
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SPEAKER_00: One's talking about black, one's talking about white.
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SPEAKER_00: So the havmin over here is that one's talking about a black uh a dock, a cataract by the black, by the pupil of the eye, and how ballavan, one's talking about a cataract on the white of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's what we're that's the havmin over here.
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SPEAKER_00: And that follows up with the next question.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, in movement beloved one, didn't we say a minute ago, the way we explained the Mishnah, is that there's no mum on the white of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: So what do I care if you have a cataract on the white of the eye?
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SPEAKER_00: The same way I don't care if you have the black of the eye spilling into the white of the eye, because there's no mum.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care about movement on the on the white of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: So so too over here, what do I care if there's a cataract on the white of the eye?
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SPEAKER_00: So how did you answer the question by saying this is by love and this is by shachar?
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SPEAKER_00: Answer the Gemara, you're right.
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SPEAKER_00: That's not what I meant by this is by love and on this by shachar.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't mean the different parts of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: I meant Elohabid Dyk love on Abid Daik Shachar.
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SPEAKER_00: We're referring to different types of cataracts.
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SPEAKER_00: This is by a black cataract, and this is by a white cataract.
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SPEAKER_00: But we call Makam, it's gonna be considered, it's gonna be always over the black part of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: That dak shachar mashuka a reze mum.
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SPEAKER_00: If you have a black cataract that's lower down, it's mashuka, it's impressed, then it's considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: Tsuf, if it's more floating, if it's higher on the surface, then in a mum, it's not gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: So as a gomar, duck, love and mashukah, and he continued saying, Dok, love and mashuka, if it's an impressed white one, in a mum, it's not gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: Tsuf, harezimum.
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SPEAKER_00: If it's tsuf and it's uh white, then it's considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: So what do we see?
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SPEAKER_00: If it's similar and your sim teram, that is barka.
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SPEAKER_00: Barka means shiny.
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SPEAKER_00: So basically if it's uh shine, it's the most uh revealing thing.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's floating, it's on top, and it's white, that's gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: But anything else is not gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: The opposite is not gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: A black indent and one wouldn't be a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: That's your cementer memory.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the gemara.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you have these types of formations in the eye, it's gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: If it looks like a snail or a snake or a grape, says the gemara iba.
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SPEAKER_00: They're asking the following.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it one case in the Mishnah?
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SPEAKER_00: We're saying that if you have a chilazain, a snail-looking shape in the in the eye, which really is a snake-looking shape in the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it really one thing?
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SPEAKER_00: Khizalin and Achash.
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SPEAKER_00: Or maybe Khizalin o'chosh.
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SPEAKER_00: It's two different moom in the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: Tashmah, I'll bring you right from the following.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabi Akhan Ben Alazar once told me that Zakin Echo Dayabishkunasina, there was an old uh there was a hacham, an old person in our schoon in our schuna.
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SPEAKER_00: His name was Lakuna.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and because he was so hush, I never walked in front of him.
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SPEAKER_00: My whole life, I never walked in front of him.
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SPEAKER_00: One time, no, Avati Lhanav.
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SPEAKER_00: I walked in front of him, and while I was passing him, Ammar Lee told me, Shabbin Ishaf, sit down, I'll show you something.
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SPEAKER_00: My son, Khilazan ze, Mumkavua Lishkhalov.
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SPEAKER_00: He showed me an animal that had a khilazen in its eye, and it said, and he said, Khilazan ze, this chilazan shape you're seeing in the eye, it's a mum kavu'a lishkharalov.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is the naqosh that the khham said.
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SPEAKER_00: So what do we clearly see from here?
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SPEAKER_00: That it's one case.
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SPEAKER_00: The khilazan is the naqosh.
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SPEAKER_00: And by the way, continue talking.
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SPEAKER_00: And even though the khacham said, even though we know that lacha inadamra mumana atma, a person's not a letter Paskin that something's a mum for himself.
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SPEAKER_00: Because this uh this was saying over that look at this animal, he was a kite, and he was showing him his own bihar that he owned, and he was saying, look, my bikar, this is a mum now, and I'm gonna be able to shachti because of this mum.
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SPEAKER_00: And by the way, even though we know that Allah is Inadim Raya, Inad Mra'ya Mumm'a, a person's not allowed to pask in muman for himself because he's Nagayabadaver, Avumara'a Allah Tamidim.
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SPEAKER_00: But what he could do is he could teach the halacha to his Talmudim, which I'm doing right now.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm teaching you that this mum is a mum, and you're my Talmud.
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SPEAKER_00: And now the Talmud can be married for me.
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SPEAKER_00: The Talmud could be uh could paskin back for him, then now, yeah, you taught me this a mum, so this is a mum, and you're gonna be able to shachate it.
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SPEAKER_00: The Umar, Rab Aba, Omar of Huna.
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SPEAKER_00: But didn't we Rababa saying the name of Huna called Tamil Khachm Shemura Allahu ba?
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SPEAKER_00: Any Tamil Khachim that comes with a new alloha, new allohaha we never heard before.
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SPEAKER_00: So we don't automatically accept it, even if he's teaching someone else.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: If he said it before, we actually had a you know nagea case to paskin about, meaning before we had this case m'amish in front of us, then shamanlah, we're gonna accept this alloc from it.
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SPEAKER_00: Vim laaf.
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SPEAKER_00: And if not, meaning he's only saying this aloha, this brand new alloch we never heard before, because there's mamish the case right in front of us that we have to paskin about, then in shamanlah, then we're not gonna paskin this because uh he's bringing it out right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemarah.
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SPEAKER_00: So what's what's chad?
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SPEAKER_00: How is he, even though he's telling it over to his Talmud and his Talmud is passing him from the end of the day, it's Allah we never heard before.
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SPEAKER_00: We're hearing it for the first time.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, you Nami Maruba, have a meikara.
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SPEAKER_00: This case actually was where he was saying the allaha before it actually happened.
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SPEAKER_00: He taught him the allocha before it happened, and then it happened, and it didn't happen the opposite way, like the story was Mashmah, but rather he said over the allaha, and then this happened, and that's why this was okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemaro.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that lo?
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SPEAKER_00: What is the tavla we saw in the Mishnah?
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SPEAKER_00: Tavlo was a discoloration where the different parts of the eye are leaking into each other.
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SPEAKER_00: So Lovina Paisak is a sira.
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SPEAKER_00: So we saw that the white part is going through the iris into the pupil.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna be a mum, but the vihulu is what we need over here.
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SPEAKER_00: But if not, if it's going in the opposite direction in the black into the white, that's not gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna be someone, who is our missioner that says that only one direction is gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: But if it's going into the white, that's not gonna be a mum because there's no mum in the white.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's the gemara rabysi.
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SPEAKER_00: You must be rubbysi.
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SPEAKER_00: Where do we see?
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SPEAKER_00: She's the tany we have a braysa.
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SPEAKER_00: Love and minichnas beshochar if the white is going into the black, or shaken echnas lovin'.
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SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter which way.
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SPEAKER_00: Or the black is going into the white, hariz a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: That's not shita's, obviously, right?
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SPEAKER_00: They're a mare, that's a mare.
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SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter which way is leaking into which, it's gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabyisi, I'm Rabyaisi says, love and minichnas beshachar, hares a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: However, shaker minichnas biloban.
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SPEAKER_00: If the black is going into the white, however, then ain't a moment.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be considered a moment.
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SPEAKER_00: She ain't mumin beloved, because there's no movement as it relates to the white.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, if I have black in the white, it's not gonna be a moment.
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SPEAKER_00: If I have a cataract on the white, it's not gonna be considered a moment.
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SPEAKER_00: In mumin beloven.
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SPEAKER_00: So the cheetah of our Mishnah that clearly said that is obviously Sheetah Sabyasi.
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SPEAKER_00: What's Rebyasi's reason for saying that there's no movement on the white of the eye?
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SPEAKER_00: Because the posk says Yatsa mechile.
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SPEAKER_00: This is a posik in the which literally means that the fat was coming out of their eyes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yatza mechile naimui.
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SPEAKER_00: The fat was uh coming out of their eyes, okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Or it came out, sorry, or it came out from the fat of their eyes.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what it was saying.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the fat of the eyes?
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SPEAKER_00: The the white part.
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SPEAKER_00: So tarbadaina ikri.
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SPEAKER_00: So we clearly see that the white part of the eye is called tarbadain.
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SPEAKER_00: It's called the fat of the eye, but a name moistomala ikri, but it's not called the actual eye.
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SPEAKER_00: So if we see a reference in the postak to the white of the eye, and it calls it the fat of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: Chilev is uh is white generally, right?
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SPEAKER_00: So it calls it the fat of the eye, but it's not the eye itself.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the eye that the what's the eye itself?
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SPEAKER_00: The eye itself is the black, and therefore when you're talking about a mum on the eye, you have to be talking about the actual pupil.
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SPEAKER_00: Says gum of a mare.
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SPEAKER_00: What a remair that says across the board, it doesn't matter which.
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SPEAKER_00: You could even have a mum on the outside of the eye, on the white of the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: What's he gonna say?
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SPEAKER_00: Remare my taimah, what's the reason of remare?
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SPEAKER_00: Because he's gonna tell you like this Ma lushun tavl, what's the lushan of tavlul of the mixture in the eye?
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SPEAKER_00: Dovra me valve, something that mixes up the eye.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter which way it goes, because this is one big bilbo with either way, either direction, and that's why Rameyor holds across the board.
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SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be considered a mum, it doesn't matter which direction.
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SPEAKER_00: Zucked.
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SPEAKER_00: The next Mishnah.
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SPEAKER_00: More movement as it relates to a bear.
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SPEAKER_00: So are white spots in the animal's eye.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the first mum.
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SPEAKER_00: The amayim hakvuin.
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SPEAKER_00: Or mayim that's coming out.
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SPEAKER_00: Water that's uh constantly dripping out of this animal's eye.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you have white spots, or what?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why not?
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SPEAKER_00: So if you have these two things, but they have to be kavua, meaning it's not something that's gonna go away.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not something that's gonna disappear onto it's when it gets better, because that wouldn't be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: But if these two things, the white spots or the ma'am, is kavua, it's something that doesn't go away, that's gonna be considered a mum, you're gonna be able to shak the bahar.
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SPEAKER_00: Azeu kabarva, what's considered khabarva kavua, that's kavua.
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SPEAKER_00: So shmanimyah, as long as I had the white dots for 80 days, that is gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: Rebaninimana, tak no i saimer, omar, he said, but it doesn't have to be that you assume it was there for 80 days.
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SPEAKER_00: How do you count?
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SPEAKER_00: You have to check three times during those 80 days.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you check three times during those 80 days and it was there every time, then you're right, and it's uh you did the test and it's gonna be considered a mum.
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SPEAKER_00: That's as it relates to the khavarvr.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the case of maimakavuin?
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SPEAKER_00: How long does it have to be for the water to uh have this issue that it's gonna be considered a mum kavua?
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SPEAKER_00: So you have to do a test.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what we're gonna see, that's what we're gonna focus on also in the Gemara.
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SPEAKER_00: In order for the Mayyim to be considered a mum, it has to pass a test.
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SPEAKER_00: It has to pass a test that you tried giving it a Rafua, you tried giving it a Psalm, a potion, uh uh uh we're gonna see the test you have to do, but you tried healing it and it didn't work.
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SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be the test.
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SPEAKER_00: And if it doesn't work throughout this period of feeding it, this lachviyavish, as we're gonna see, then that doesn't work, that rufuh.
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SPEAKER_00: So now you could be kaver as a mum kavua, now you're gonna be able to shach the buchar based off of it.
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SPEAKER_00: So, what is Mayim Kavuin?
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SPEAKER_00: So you have to do the you have to try to get try try to heal it by giving it the following refuah.
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SPEAKER_00: You have to feed it lachviyovish.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's say you tried.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna start by saying what's not gonna work.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start by saying if you did it in the wrong way, then it's not gonna count.
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SPEAKER_00: You're gonna have to do the test in the right way for this to work before.
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SPEAKER_00: So Achal Lachvviyavish Shall Geshamim.
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SPEAKER_00: If you fed this animal, Lachviy Yovish.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is either a straw or hay that's lach that's moist and that's dry, shall geshamim.
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SPEAKER_00: That came from a rainy field, which means the field is fed based off rainwater, not based off irrigation.
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SPEAKER_00: Meaning rainwater is gonna be good enough for the field.
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SPEAKER_00: Or lachviavish al schlachen.
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SPEAKER_00: Or uh, you know, straw that's either dry straw or or uh or wet straw, but shall schlachin.
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SPEAKER_00: But from an irrigated field, a field that couldn't rely on the rainwater that needed irrigation as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Oi, or we we need the bach over here a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: Oii uhal, ha yovish va'achka chalach.
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SPEAKER_00: What does the bach say over here?
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SPEAKER_00: Shall shlachim.
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SPEAKER_00: Ochal ha yabish va'ka chalak.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, sorry, the next one we need, not this one so much.
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SPEAKER_00: But if he ate the yovish, the achka chalach, meaning first the yovish, first the dry food, and then the lacha, then the moist food, then that wouldn't be considered a good refuh.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you did that, it's not gonna be considered a good enough test to render it a mum when you say it didn't work.
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SPEAKER_00: No, you didn't do the test right, that's why it didn't work.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, in a mum, it's not gonna be considered a mum if this didn't work.
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SPEAKER_00: It's only gonna work to render this 100% a mum to say that the test didn't work, that the rafu didn't work if you did it 100% properly.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the way to do it properly?
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SPEAKER_00: Achayochal halakh ve achka chayovish.
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SPEAKER_00: You have to eat the bach, that's where the bach changes it.
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SPEAKER_00: Hayovish achka chalach.
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SPEAKER_00: That's also Rashi's gears over here.
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SPEAKER_00: Hayabish Achka Halach, which basically means the same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: The yovish and then the lach.
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SPEAKER_00: The yovish and then the lach.
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SPEAKER_00: First the dry, or sorry, hayavish acharalach.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm so sorry over there.
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SPEAKER_00: Hayov.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a lot of shibushum over here in the gearsai, so you gotta help cup and it really makes a difference.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's only gonna be a mum when the test that you did was hayabish achralach.
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SPEAKER_00: First the lach, then the yovish.
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SPEAKER_00: First the moist, and then the yovish.
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SPEAKER_00: But if you did the opposite or you didn't do it in the right way, then it's not gonna be considered a good test.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: And even if it's still as a mum after this refuh, it's not gonna be considered a mum kavuh, you're gonna be able to shakh this bahar because you didn't do it properly.
14:55
SPEAKER_00: But if you did the lach, the achar kahayovish, or in other words, the yavish acharalach, first the lach, then the yavish, then that's a good test.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: And if it didn't work, if the rafuah didn't work, that's when you could pask, and then now it's a good mum kavuah that you're gonna be able to shach the bahar.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: Says the gimmar.
15:10
SPEAKER_00: Masnisin money, who is the ton of our Mishnah?
15:12
SPEAKER_00: Rabiuda, you must be Rabyuda.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: The Tanya, we have a braise of Havarver Kavua Arboy Myoim.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh Maimakvuun Shmainimyum.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: What's the shear to know the khavarva, these white dots, how long do you need it to be considered a mum kabuah?
15:23
SPEAKER_00: 40 days.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: Maimakvuin, shmainimyom.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: The very man.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: That's sheet that's remarried.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: And that was the sheet in the Mishnah that we saw.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: So our Mishnah is obviously Rabiuda.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: Vedu henna maimakavu.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: And what is Maya Makavuin?
15:35
SPEAKER_00: This last part we were talking about.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is where we need the Bach.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Shall be sabal refers to our regular field that's uh irrigated from the rain, not from uh uh irrigation bideam.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: So if you had, if you if the animal ate Lachvi Yavish, Shell Besabao, so it ate Lachvi Yavish.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Just sorry, just trying to find the Bach over here.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh Shabesabao, the loyal lachvi yovish shall base hash lachin, then oy sha'och, yavish vachha chalach.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Or it ate.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Yavesh wach ka chalach.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: First yavish and then lach.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: In mum.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: Even if you did that and it's still at a mum afterwards, it's not gonna be considered a mum.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: Why?
16:13
SPEAKER_00: Because you didn't do it correctly.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: Ad She Yoy Khal Yovish Acharalach.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: Unless you do the lach before the yovish, you feed it the lach before the lavish, the yesh no gimakadash, and that lasts across three months, and it still doesn't go away.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: If you did it properly, then it's gonna be considered a mum.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: But any other type of combination, it's not gonna be considered a mum.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna triotanani.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: This brace that we just brought didn't mention all the cases we said are not gonna work in the Mishnah.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: We said both things in the Mishnah.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: Reading, why did we say that by Rabyudah, why did we say by the Rabyud in the Bryce that we just brought that only if it eats lachvi yovish of a basis, it's not considered not gonna be considered a mum?
16:49
SPEAKER_00: If Rabyudh said in the Mishnah, it doesn't matter what you eat.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: Besah slochim, basabal, it's not gonna be a mum across the board unless you did specifically lach and afterwards yabesh.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: So it says the Gemara, but Ratanin, and we learned both in the Mishnah.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: And it's both not gonna be considered a good Rafua, and it's still gonna be considered a mum.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Meaning unless you do the right way, it's not gonna work to it.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, it's not gonna be considered a hundred percent amum.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: They're both not gonna be considered a good refuh, and that's why it's not gonna be telling anything because you didn't do it properly.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: You didn't do lach and then yavish.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: You did it together across the board, it doesn't it's not gonna make a difference.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: And says the Gemara, you want to know why I said that in the Braissa.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: Khesura Makhsira Bachitani.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Rashi explains that Khsura Makhsira is really referring to the Mishnah, which is a khidhish, because usually Khsiri Maksra we try to change Braisas and not Mishnah's when we have a stira.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: But over here we're changing the Mishnah, and by the way, with all the Shibushim in the Mishnah, the Khsura Makhsirah, the way the Bach reads into the Mishnah before, I think the way maybe even Rashi reads it before, is according to this Khsura Maks of Akhitani.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: I didn't look into it enough, but that's how it seems from like uh first glance.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: But either way, Khsura Maksah Ba Khitani, we're changing the Mishnah.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: You want to know how you have to understand the Mishnah?
17:54
SPEAKER_00: The following, if you if you fed it, Lach Vyavish al Gishamim from a field that's watered by the rain, hariz a mum, it's gonna be considered a mum.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: That's a good way of doing it.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Um then yavish from a base uh from a field that comes from Gishamim.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be considered a mum.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: You could be kved based off that.
18:13
SPEAKER_00: Besashlachim einamum.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: Besashlachim is not gonna be considered a mum.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: If it came from a field that is irrigated, U the Gisham Nami, and even from a field that relies on rainwater, achalak, ino imum, a chyokel, yovish va achar a lach.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: It has to tafka be the lach and then the yovish.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: It has to be the yovish coming after the lach for it to be good, and that's the mefser we're reading into the Mishnah.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: So you're right, that's really what's going on over here, that it's only gonna be considered a mum if you do it in the proper way.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: What is the proper way?
18:43
SPEAKER_00: Specifically feeding it from food that came from a shamim, from a field that's watered by rain, and specifically by Lach, the Achakah Yovish, Lach that comes before Yahweh.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: And this has to last across three months.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Is that true?
19:02
SPEAKER_00: So the gear says, Reyovish.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: He said that Adarvinisan as relates to the months when you're doing this test.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: So when you do the test in the months of Adar Venison, which are at the end of the winter, which is the Lach times, then we're gonna see that in a second.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: So if you do an Advanisan Lach, that's when you give it the Lach food, that's how it sounds at least.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Elo Vitishre Yovish, Elo Vitishre, which is the end of the summer, so Yovish.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: That's when you give it the Yovish.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: So the Gemara, what do we see over here?
19:29
SPEAKER_00: It's four months.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: We just counted four months.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: What are you telling me three months in the Mishnah?
19:32
SPEAKER_00: And it says the Gemara, Ema Adar Vachinisan Lach, Elavachatsi Tishre Yovish.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: So it's really a month and a half each, which equals three months.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara in Baylul, that's the following shaila.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Lach bizman lach yovish bizmana yovish.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: When you're feeding it, again, we said you have to give it the first the lach food, first the moist food, and then the and then the dry food.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: So do you have to give it specifically the lach food, bismanalach?
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Lach bizmana lach viovish bizman yavish.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: And the yovish food at the time of the yovish meaning you have to give it to the the moist food at the end of the winter, which is the make shaman, and you have to give it to the dry food at the end of the summer, which is the dry season.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: Or maybe lach vi yavish bismanalah.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: Everything has to be bisman a lach.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: Everything has to be at the end of the winter.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Bizmanalah.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Even the yovish food you're giving it is also bismanalah.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: Tashmah bring your ride from the following.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Adarvinisan lach, elevitishre yavish.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: So what do we see over here?
20:18
SPEAKER_00: That clearly it seems that they're each each one you have to give at their own time period.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: Adar Vinisanlah.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: And then later on in the year you do the other half of the test.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: El Vitishre, you do Yavish.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemarah.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: No, that's not necessarily a ride because Domapir the Elo Vitishre, Machil Machilin, sorry, Machilinonle, the Adavinisan.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it just means that the pairs that come from El Vitishre that are the dry season, you feed it when?
20:42
SPEAKER_00: On the Adavinisan, when you're giving it everything at the same time, Adavinisan, and the at that same time.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: But those pears that come, which really means that both the lach and the avish have to be bizmanhalak.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: So it's not necessarily a ra says the gemara, the kam machilana, say how much do you have to feed it?
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Meaning so you're giving it all these different types of dry and moist uh straw and hay, whatever it is at these different times.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: How much of it do you have to feed it?
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara Burbi.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: You have to give it a gregeris size.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: And Amar Rava.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: And Rava said the following.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: So that gregeris size, bin marava, so amarava, sorry.
21:17
SPEAKER_00: Bai bin marava.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: They had the following shadow in there, tis roll.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Ki gregeris besudarishan.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean that every day, just in the first meal, you have to give it a gregerisworth, but it's only once a day.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: Or it means at every single sudha you need to feed it a gregeris.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna tell me only the first pseudo, it doesn't mean before you eat or before the animal eats or after the animal eats.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: The mailah that it would have before akhilah, that's for sure good if you give it before the animal eats, because that helps like a potion, like rafua, when you give medicine, you usually give it back in the day before the eating.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: But what about after akhilah would it still help?
21:53
SPEAKER_00: And would it be considered still a good test to render it a moment if it doesn't work or not?
21:57
SPEAKER_00: And what about the following?
21:58
SPEAKER_00: We're just firing away with a question.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Before it drinks, it's for sure good.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: The same way that it eats barley before it drinks.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: But it would it still help after drinking or not?
22:15
SPEAKER_00: Will it still help?
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Are you allowed to give it basically while it's tied up?
22:19
SPEAKER_00: When the animal takes the this uh greger's worth of what you're feeding it.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: So does it have to be could it be tied up or does it have to be released?
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Mutter.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: So mutter or moister, vaday malile.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: It's for sure, it's for sure good for the animal if it's free.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Why?
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Because it's uh it's free, which makes it feel better in a certain way, and therefore it's good for the medicine.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: Koshramai, but could it be tied up?
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Will it still be a good test if it's tied up?
22:44
SPEAKER_00: Le Vada Imchaverai.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Is it alone or does it have to be with friends?
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Imchavir Vada Malide, if it's with its friends, more animals, then it's for sure good for it because it's got its whole chebra and it's a good and good vibe and environment, so it's probably better for the animal.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: But le vade my what about alone?
22:59
SPEAKER_00: Will it still work if it's alone?
23:01
SPEAKER_00: Ba'ir vassade.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Can you do it in the city and in the field?
23:05
SPEAKER_00: Basada vade malile in the sade, it's for sure good for it.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Why?
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Because it's got fresh air and breathing space, vehulu.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: Ba'irmai, but will it still work if you did it in the city where you don't have that?
23:15
SPEAKER_00: But Rabash and Nirvashi asked the following Imtim Salah Basade, if you're gonna tell me that you have to do it in the field, Gina smuchal irmai.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: What if it's uh it's like a garden in a city, uh a sadh, but it's close to the city?
23:25
SPEAKER_00: Is that gonna uh now cancel it out?
23:27
SPEAKER_00: Maya, what's gonna be the Allah in all these cases?
23:29
SPEAKER_00: And then the Gemar says on all that, taku.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: So one just one thing, one part to close up to the next Mishnah.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: Rab Khananya bin Antigna samurai.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: So we saw the Mishnah.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: Rab Khanani ben antigna said the chulu that Shwa Shadash, what's gonna be the time period?
23:44
SPEAKER_00: So we said, what is Khvarva?
23:46
SPEAKER_00: What's gonna be considered the white dots?
23:47
SPEAKER_00: The khavarva kavua that's gonna be considered a mum kavua.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: Kosha Shmanimim, it's eighty days.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: Rabanam Tigna Samir, but can I say gimmoken?
23:55
SPEAKER_00: You have to check him three times during those eighty days, and if three times during those eighty days you checked and it still has those white dots, that's gonna be considered the mum kavua that you're gonna be able to check this bakar.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: This time, I'm thinking that said you have to check during those three months three times.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: So those three times can't be three random times.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: It has to be exactly split up into three parts.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: So do the math, split three months exactly into the three Well Split it exactly into three times according to the different months, and that's on that exact day, it has to be equal parts that you're gonna be checking him on.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: And by Mine Pinchas Ahua de Mar Shmua Mishmu.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: Pinchas, the brother of Shmuel, asked Shmuel.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: Ochla itzi na Mafrey Avimuma, I mikano lahaba avimuma.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Very interesting question.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Ochlayitsi.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: If the animal ate and followed the exact khajbin and followed the very specific instructions we were learning about right now, so we consider this a guru rafu.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: And if you did it the proper way and still it didn't get healed, now we know it's a hundred percent amum.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: So Akhobilayitsi ate it, it ate it properly, the right way.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: Vilayetsi, and it didn't get healed.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: So now we know what?
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Now we know it's 100% a mum.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: So the question is when did it become a mum now?
25:05
SPEAKER_00: Lema Freya avimum?
25:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm ikana lahab.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Is it a mum now?
25:09
SPEAKER_00: Lema Freya, all the way from the first time that you noticed the mum?
25:13
SPEAKER_00: Or is it only a mum?
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Now that you were Kev the Mum based off the fact that this medicine didn't work, now Mikana Lahabah's gonna be considered a mum.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: So the Gemara asks what you would all expect.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: Lemai nafkamina.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: What nafkamina does it make if we're gonna consider it a mum, lema freya or not?
25:25
SPEAKER_00: It's the Gemara.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you the nafkamina.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: Lemima bipidion.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: The nafkamina would be if you're gonna be Iver me'ilah, if you were poida, this untamani, and you were male with that money.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Use the money for your own purposes.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: Sarashi says, we're obviously not talking about a bihar now.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: We're obviously talking about uh dash because of bihar, you can't be poid, as sifta the tarah says.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, and therefore, uh what's gonna be the alaq over here?
25:51
SPEAKER_00: Limim al-Kidyani.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna be Iverme'elah if you went ahead and took this animal that was Psulay Magdashim?
25:56
SPEAKER_00: It had a mum.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: But we're not 100% sure that it has a mum because you have to do this test and see if it's gonna get better.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: But you only know that it's a hundred percent a mum once you finish the test and it didn't get better three months later.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: So after that, and now we know it's a mum.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Limmafreya.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: What if as soon as it got these white spots in the eye, you realize that hey, I'm gonna go now and uh be poidet?
26:15
SPEAKER_00: And I'll do the test afterwards.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: I'll do the test to see if it was really a mum, but I'll be poidet right now.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: So you were poidet onto money, you transferred the kadusha onto the money, and then you went and used the money for yourself.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: So that's the question.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Lima Freya habim.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna tell me that at Lima Freya, it's gonna be considered a mum now from the time that you first noticed it.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: So Mail.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: So you were Mayel when you use that money because Lima Freya was a mum, which means that the kadusha was transferred onto the money, and you use that money, so you're 100% mail.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: But if it's only a mum, you can't al-haba, once you established now that there were a fu it didn't work, so from today on it becomes a mum.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: So laimal, you weren't mail on the money because it wasn't a mum yet.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: It's only a mum, you can't uh, and when you transfer the kadusha from the psule muhdashim onto the money, you could it didn't it wasn't bakal kah because you can't transfer kadusha from an animal that doesn't have a mum onto money.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: It's possible not gonna work.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: It needs to be a mugdash.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: What's gonna be the Allah?
27:05
SPEAKER_00: And this is what the brother Marshmu asked from Shmuel, and his name was Pinchas, says the Gemara Kari Shmuel Alayh Shmu'a read the following Pasak and answer him, but he told him this Pasuk that Pischim Buzzubaz, which basically means that Piskim referring to uh cripples, so people that are crippled, they all of a sudden went and looted something.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: So you usually have to be a big army or something to loot something.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: So the fact that a pistayach is gonna be able to loot something is very uh sounds like uh impressive feat.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: So he was basically saying, you that weren't known to uh be the biggest uh Tamil Khacham in the base medresh, kind of like a pistayach, all of a sudden you have this amazing question, kind of a compliment, insult at the same time.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: But we'll hold it over there.