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292. Carving Your Own Path: Betina Gozo On Balancing Entrepreneurship & Motherhood · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: I think that so many people need to really embrace
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Speaker 1: their story and who they are, and I think that
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Speaker 1: is about being vulnerable, you know. I think whether it's
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Speaker 1: a story about being a single mom or maybe you know,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is that you have, like and you're comfortable
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Speaker 1: telling those stories, especially if you're going the brand route
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Speaker 1: of yourself, like, really embrace that.
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Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, Emily Body here. You are listening to episode
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Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety two of Hurdle, a wellness focused
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Speaker 2: podcast where I talk to inspirational people about everything from
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Speaker 2: their highest ties and toughest moments to essential tips on
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Speaker 2: how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We
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Speaker 2: all go through our fair share of hurdles, and my
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Speaker 2: goal through these discussions is to empower you to better
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Speaker 2: navigate yours and move with intention so that you can
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Speaker 2: stride towards your own big potential and of course have
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Speaker 2: some fun along the way. For today's episode, I am
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Speaker 2: bringing back one of my favorite humans. Her name is
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Speaker 2: Bettina Gozo Shimanick. She is a health and wellness expert
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Speaker 2: based out of Texas and a dear, dear friend of mine.
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Speaker 2: You've heard her story on the show before. A link
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Speaker 2: to her episode one and two in the show notes, but.
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Speaker 3: For today's conversation, we.
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Speaker 2: Are rapping about all of the pain points of entrepreneurship,
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Speaker 2: things that we wish that we knew when we started,
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Speaker 2: how she's feeling in this new chapter of being a
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Speaker 2: business owner and a mother.
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Speaker 3: She's also a podcaster.
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Speaker 2: She has an awesome podcast that she does alongside her
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Speaker 2: husband called Beyond.
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Speaker 3: The Routine and Then Beyond That.
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Speaker 2: She also launched a new app this week, Super Super Exciting.
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Speaker 2: The app is call VGTV. Betina goes a TV app
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Speaker 2: and on it, she's helping you to eliminate the overwhelm
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Speaker 2: so you can focus on building strength, having fun, and
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Speaker 2: feeling good. She's also gifting the Hurdlers with a month
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Speaker 2: free You can head on into the app store, download
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Speaker 2: the app BGTV and use the code Hurdle again. Our
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Speaker 2: convo today all about entrepreneurship. There are so many things
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Speaker 2: I both wish I knew when I got started, and
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Speaker 2: also I know there's so much value in the lessons
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Speaker 2: that I have learned myself along the way. We wrap
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Speaker 2: about goal setting, how to balance personal and professional.
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Speaker 3: We talk about money.
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Speaker 2: We talk about owning your value and your worth so
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Speaker 2: much good stuff in here, and I'm so elated to
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Speaker 2: be able to sit down with Betina once again.
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Speaker 3: Make sure you're following the show over on social it's
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Speaker 3: at Hurdle Podcast.
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Speaker 2: I myself am over at Emily a body. It has
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Speaker 2: been a whirlwind a couple of weeks over here in Asia.
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Speaker 2: By the time this episode is live, I will have
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Speaker 2: run the Tokyo Marathon, which is absolutely crazy to say
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Speaker 2: so I can't wait to bring you my recap episode
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Speaker 2: on that. It'll come out next Monday, March thirteenth. But
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Speaker 2: in the meantime, thank you so much for all of
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Speaker 2: your well wishes future Emily. I want you to know that,
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Speaker 2: no matter what happened, you did good last.
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Speaker 3: Little bit of housekeeping here.
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Speaker 3: Is in the show notes. With that, let's get to
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Speaker 3: hurdling today.
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with the ever lovely Betina Gozo Shimanek.
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Speaker 2: She is a health and fitness expert. How are you
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Speaker 2: doing today?
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Speaker 1: I'm good, so lovely to see your.
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Speaker 2: Face, Oh my goodness, it's always the loveliest your face.
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Speaker 2: Those that have been hurdling for some time now are
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Speaker 2: no stranger to this lovely human.
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Speaker 3: Betina is not only a dear friend of mine.
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Speaker 2: We go way back, but she has been on the
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Speaker 2: show before and after connecting for her podcasts, which are
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Speaker 2: going to have her talk to you a little bit
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Speaker 2: about to kick us off, I was.
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Speaker 1: Like, you know what, let's run it back now. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. I'm really excited. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: Beyond the Routine is a podcast that I have with
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Speaker 1: my husband, who is also a performance coach and he
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Speaker 1: works with high level athletes, and you know, we're both parents,
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Speaker 1: and we thought it would be fun to share our
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Speaker 1: personal life but also some of our expertise and how
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Speaker 1: it all intertwines in the podcast. And you know, we've
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Speaker 1: been really enjoying sharing some personal things but also integrating
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Speaker 1: that whole parenting and life aspect into it for sure.
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Speaker 3: Peach and the pit.
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Speaker 1: So far of podcasting, we're trying to get as many
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Speaker 1: episodes as you can on time.
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Speaker 3: It's so funny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a challenge because you know we're trying to
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Speaker 1: think of topics every week or guests, and you know,
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Speaker 1: thinking of guests, I feel like is actually the easiest
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Speaker 1: part because I have know so many wonderful people like yourself,
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Speaker 1: and you know, that's been really really fun. But it's
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Speaker 1: definitely been one of those things where we're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: we got to do this, but it's been really exciting
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Speaker 1: to share all of our stories with everybody.
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Speaker 2: And also a mother of two plus doing so many
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Speaker 2: other things within your business. Today, we're going to sit
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Speaker 2: down and talk about so many of the things that
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Speaker 2: you and I have both learned from embracing our inner
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Speaker 2: entrepreneur doing things that maybe we never anticipated. And so
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Speaker 2: before we get into it, i'd love if you could
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Speaker 2: give me a little bit of insight into what led
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Speaker 2: you down this road to being a full time entrepreneur,
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Speaker 2: online coach, and trainer.
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Speaker 1: I won't dive into deep. You can definitely check out
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Speaker 1: some of our previous episodes that are linked in the
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Speaker 1: show notes. But yeah, you know, I used to play
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Speaker 1: in a band full time, playing basics and spent really
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Speaker 1: late nights eating gas station food doing all of the things.
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Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't until I went into a
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Speaker 1: fitness class with my roommate and worked out, and then
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Speaker 1: next thing, I know, I just loved and it was
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Speaker 1: obsessed with how working out made me feel. And then
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Speaker 1: I decided to be a trainer full time. It was
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Speaker 1: a long process, but I made it happen.
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Speaker 2: Made it happen, and so you were then thrust into
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Speaker 2: a career of trying to figure out not only how
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Speaker 2: to make it happen, but then of course how to
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Speaker 2: make ends meet. Now, I know that life is very
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Speaker 2: different today than when you started out, and a big
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Speaker 2: part of that is being able to, let's say, differentiate
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Speaker 2: between your personal goals and your professional goals.
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Speaker 3: So let's talk a little bit about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I a lot of it is less
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Speaker 1: about the specific goal and like the achievement. It's more
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Speaker 1: about like, how do I want to split up my
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Speaker 1: time and in the future, what does that time look like,
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Speaker 1: especially now that I have kids, Like, is it do
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Speaker 1: I want to spend more time? Do I want to
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Speaker 1: spend a third of my day with them? Or do
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Speaker 1: I want to spend two thirds of my day with
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Speaker 1: them and only work a little bit, which is what
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Speaker 1: I try to go for. You know, back when I
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Speaker 1: was single, it was like, Okay, I want to hustle
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Speaker 1: I and do all these things, and I had all
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Speaker 1: these different goals in mind. But when it comes to
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Speaker 1: actually figuring out what I want for myself, I ask
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Speaker 1: myself what I actually want my time to look like
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Speaker 1: and what I think the perfect day would look like
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Speaker 1: if I had everything I wanted. It's less about like
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Speaker 1: specific check marks or achievements. It's like, how do I
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Speaker 1: want to spend my day?
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Speaker 3: Interesting?
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Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you go about even concepting what
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Speaker 2: that split looks like?
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Speaker 1: I usually look at how I'm currently spending my time, okay,
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Speaker 1: and how I've spent my time over the past year,
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Speaker 1: and what were the most ideal things, and what were
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Speaker 1: things that I'd love to change, and where are the
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Speaker 1: things that I'm like, Okay, I have to do this
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Speaker 1: in order to make money or in order to feel
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Speaker 1: good on a day to day basis, whether it's like
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Speaker 1: meal prep and you know, all those things, because you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like some people could say, oh, well, I want
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Speaker 1: to get rid of meal prepping, but then you're not
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Speaker 1: going to stay healthy or whatever. It is that you
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Speaker 1: want or you know, just trying to figure out what
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Speaker 1: are the necessities and then figuring out what are the
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Speaker 1: things that I want to spend less of my time on.
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Speaker 1: And I think from there, I really go to figure
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Speaker 1: out if I'm really clear on who I want to
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Speaker 1: serve in my job or in my app or whatever
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Speaker 1: it is that I'm working on, whether it be my
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Speaker 1: clients or on social and trying to make sure that
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to serve too many people. And I
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Speaker 1: really just hone in on that.
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Speaker 3: So I'm hearing two things here.
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Speaker 2: First and foremost, you do yourself a fever and you
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Speaker 2: do an exercise that I actually also love to do,
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Speaker 2: which is dividing up what you have going.
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Speaker 3: On into three columns.
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Speaker 2: It's the stuff that you're doing right now that you love,
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Speaker 2: the stuff that you're doing right now that's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: you don't mind it, and the stuff that you're doing
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Speaker 2: right now that you want to do less of that
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Speaker 2: you're like, this doesn't excite me. And in that produce
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Speaker 2: something else I love that you mentioned specifically with relation
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Speaker 2: to food prep. That example is maybe there's something that
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Speaker 2: you know that's important to you that you want to
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Speaker 2: have being a part of your life, but you don't
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Speaker 2: have the bandwidth to do it yourself. So then outsourcing
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Speaker 2: maybe something like that. Maybe that's an area where you're like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to invest some money in this because I
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Speaker 2: know that doing that will help me in the other
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Speaker 2: areas of my life. And the last thing that you
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Speaker 2: mentioned was doing an audit in real time of how
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Speaker 2: you're executing right, So it's not just like, Okay, here's
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Speaker 2: the bucket of I want.
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Speaker 3: To create items for social media.
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Speaker 2: It's like, yes, I want to create items for social media,
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Speaker 2: and I want to make sure that I'm staying on
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Speaker 2: track with who it is that I want to serve.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of really really excellent takeaways there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I know. And it's hard because you know,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are very unclear of
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Speaker 1: what their brand is. And just because you don't your
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Speaker 1: brand your it doesn't mean you aren't a brand.
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Speaker 3: You are a brand.
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Speaker 1: You know, whether if you're going to a job and
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Speaker 1: you're interviewing for a corporate job, you are your brand.
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Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out how you can help them
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Speaker 1: and how you can serve them. So it you know,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't clear of that.
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Speaker 1: So you have to really ask yourself, what do you
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Speaker 1: want to be known for, what do you stand for?
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Speaker 1: And what are your values?
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Speaker 3: Oh? I love those three questions.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So then in the execution of setting goals upholding
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Speaker 2: boundaries between personal and professional, there is absolutely no doubt
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Speaker 2: in my mind that at some point guilt and shame
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Speaker 2: are going to creep in. Talk to me about what
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Speaker 2: your experience has been navigating difficult emotions when it comes
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Speaker 2: to highlighting things that excite you in both arenas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the guilt and shame aspect. It's it's
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Speaker 1: especially now as a mom. You know, I think my
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Speaker 1: priorities have shifted so much. Before it was like I
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Speaker 1: was so excited to do this, do show up this
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Speaker 1: and this and that, and like I realized all the end,
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Speaker 1: a lot of it was just ego. And what really
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Speaker 1: is important to me is what my kids think of me,
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Speaker 1: and what my husband thinks of me every single day,
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Speaker 1: and most importantly, how I feel about myself every single day.
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Speaker 1: And so it just making sure that I would stay
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Speaker 1: really in tune with that, and I think with mindfulness
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Speaker 1: practices and on journaling, practices. All those things help me
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Speaker 1: stay on top of those things. Instead of like looking
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Speaker 1: for those achievements or those titles from different companies to
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Speaker 1: help me feel like I mean something, it was more
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Speaker 1: about how I.
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Speaker 2: Felt about myself the whole time, and that's a really
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Speaker 2: hard place to get to. I love how you rounded
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Speaker 2: that out, not just with the opinions of your children
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Speaker 2: or your husband, but truly, how do you feel about
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Speaker 2: yourself every day? Because it's hard not to, especially when
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Speaker 2: you're someone like yourself that is active on social media.
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Speaker 2: It's hard not to wonder or have concerned over how
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Speaker 2: you're going to be perceived. But at the end of
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Speaker 2: the day, when you do that audit and you ask yourself,
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Speaker 2: how is it that I feel about my self when
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Speaker 2: I'm by myself, that is the most important question that
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Speaker 2: you can answer in pursuit of whatever excites you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, something that I've really loved as
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Speaker 1: a practice too, is just, you know, not only seeing
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Speaker 1: where I want my time in the future, but where
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Speaker 1: I want to see my career. And it's not with
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Speaker 1: those achievements. It's like, what is the future me going
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Speaker 1: to be doing? And I think when it comes when
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Speaker 1: we're going back to the goal setting and trying something new.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people are having
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Speaker 1: a hard time like adopting a new identity or new standards,
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Speaker 1: and you know, you just keep doing the same thing
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Speaker 1: over and over, and you know, I think that becomes
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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable for people because you know that contradicts what
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Speaker 1: you've already done. So imagining yourself where you want to
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Speaker 1: be in that future role, whether it's you want more
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Speaker 1: time for yourself and you see yourself as this other
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Speaker 1: amazing human that's very successful. Seeing yourself there and doing
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Speaker 1: all of the habits that get you there, get you
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Speaker 1: even closer to there, because I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people just say, oh, I'm not going to get there,
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Speaker 1: or I can't even see myself there and what happens
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Speaker 1: from there? It just like you kind of do the
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Speaker 1: same thing over and over. So you have to kind
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Speaker 1: of like just like I'm very into the whole like
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Speaker 1: manifestation and you know, just seeing yourself where you are
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Speaker 1: in the future, so that everything you do step by
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Speaker 1: step now gets you there.
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Speaker 3: How does manifestation work for you?
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Speaker 1: I do a lot of just really deep meditations. It
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Speaker 1: took me a really long time to get there. I
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Speaker 1: think for a long time I was just I was
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Speaker 1: doing headspace ten minutes. Since twenty fourteen, been ten years
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Speaker 1: now ten minutes every day. But now I will straight up,
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Speaker 1: just like lay down, really just imagine myself in the
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Speaker 1: places that I want to be, whether it be these
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Speaker 1: opportunities like Singapore or Philippines, and just I guess the
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Speaker 1: way for me is I almost pretend like I'm these
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Speaker 1: people that I see that I look up to and
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Speaker 1: doing exactly what they're doing in that space, and I
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Speaker 1: feel like my body, I almost like embody that and
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Speaker 1: then my attitude everything that like I feel, everything I
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Speaker 1: say yes to, everything says is so much easier to
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Speaker 1: say no to whenever I know I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: acting like this person, but it's not. It doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: I want to be that person. It's just like the
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Speaker 1: things that they're doing. And then I figure out quickly,
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Speaker 1: like if it's I don't know, Robin R's own amazing,
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Speaker 1: but she's super busy, she's doing all of these things,
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Speaker 1: and she's an amazing mom with two kids. But there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of things that I probably wouldn't enjoy.
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Speaker 1: I don't love new York like I the way her
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Speaker 1: lifestyle is, she's like, she's in a New York thing.
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Speaker 1: I think almost every single day. Like, there's certain things
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Speaker 1: that sometimes I'm like, Okay, I think that I want that,
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Speaker 1: But when I really truly embody it, it helps me shift
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Speaker 1: my goals a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I First of all, finding people that you admire, I
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Speaker 2: feel like is really helpful when it comes to identifying
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Speaker 2: the things that excite you, because it's not just that
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Speaker 2: you admire them, it's that they inspire you, right, So
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Speaker 2: what is it about them that really feels in line
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Speaker 2: with what it is that you want for yourself.
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Speaker 3: So that's a great question to ask.
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Speaker 2: And then the next thing that you do, which is
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Speaker 2: super helpful here, is to then align it with who
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Speaker 2: you are and what makes sense for you. So just
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Speaker 2: because in this example you admire Robin, it doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: that you're gonna literally emulate absolutely everything that she's doing. However,
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Speaker 2: as a fellow mother of two, also within the health
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Speaker 2: and fitness space, there are a lot of parallels that
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Speaker 2: can be drawn between the both of you. So it
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Speaker 2: makes complete sense that you are like, Okay, what would
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Speaker 2: make sense for me and how can I emulate that
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Speaker 2: on my side.
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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yeah, It's been such an interesting journey, especially
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Speaker 1: since I have been in such big cities like Chicago
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Speaker 1: and LA and I always thought that that's where I
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Speaker 1: want it to be. But then once you know, I
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Speaker 1: met Nick, we moved to Texas. Like, I wake up
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Speaker 1: every single morning so happy and content with everything that
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Speaker 1: we have, having our space, going outside and joying the
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Speaker 1: sun and having a slow morning, and that's what we're
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Speaker 1: for me, you know. And I think that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people do that comparison game, and they think that
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Speaker 1: they want the life that they see in somebody else's life,
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Speaker 1: but then they actually put themselves there and they're like, wait,
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Speaker 1: I think what I like what I got going on
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Speaker 1: right now, or maybe I like this aspect of it,
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Speaker 1: and then I change a little bit here and there,
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Speaker 1: and you know, hey, some people might want to just
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Speaker 1: straight up move to New York and figure out what
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Speaker 1: that's like.
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Speaker 3: They might. They might.
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Speaker 2: The thing that I appreciate is this space that you're
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Speaker 2: in where you have such a firm grasp on what
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Speaker 2: feels right for you now. Was there a time where
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Speaker 2: you did struggle with the things that you thought that
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Speaker 2: you wanted versus what actually felt right.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think especially when I went to Apple.
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Speaker 1: You know, I thought I was I was working with
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Speaker 1: Nike for about eight years at that point, moved over
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Speaker 1: to Apple, and I remember thinking, oh my gosh, this
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Speaker 1: is it, Like, oh my gosh, I have security. I
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Speaker 1: have all of the things I've ever wanted. And then
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Speaker 1: when I had it, and I was like, no, I
17:04
Speaker 1: already had it, you know, I already had the freedom
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Speaker 1: to do whatever I wanted at my own time. I
17:08
Speaker 1: already had the capabilities of building my brand. But I
17:11
Speaker 1: realized I just had to be really happy with what
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Speaker 1: I had already. Yeah, you know, And it was just
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Speaker 1: such a big learning experience for me to discover try
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Speaker 1: something new. I met a lot of amazing people there,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I just realized, like, I want to
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Speaker 1: be able to do my own thing, and I don't
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Speaker 1: need that security. I don't need all of those things
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Speaker 1: to make me feel like that's what's going to make
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Speaker 1: me successful.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This is like a general discussion that I feel like
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Speaker 2: I have all the time offline, but it's very valuable
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Speaker 2: here as to again seeing something and being like that
17:43
Speaker 2: looks like exactly what I need. And then experiencing it
17:46
Speaker 2: and being okay with the fact that it isn't.
17:48
Speaker 3: What you needed it at all.
17:50
Speaker 2: Right, you can't get to this place of understanding until
17:53
Speaker 2: you give yourself the agency to try. And so for
17:56
Speaker 2: you to step into a role for the first time
17:58
Speaker 2: in forever where you had benefits and PTO and you
18:01
Speaker 2: could support your family in a different way, of course,
18:04
Speaker 2: there was something so exciting about that. But what you
18:07
Speaker 2: learned throughout that experience is although that it had benefits
18:10
Speaker 2: and perks, for sure, without a doubt, you are the
18:14
Speaker 2: type of person who can be secure with a lack
18:19
Speaker 2: of regularity.
18:21
Speaker 3: You're a true entrepreneur.
18:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think it also took a
18:25
Speaker 1: lot of courage to leave. I think it was very
18:28
Speaker 1: scary to leave, especially at that point I had a
18:31
Speaker 1: Luna and Nick and I were like okay, well, okay,
18:35
Speaker 1: well let's just do it. And you know, having a
18:37
Speaker 1: partner that really supported me in that was a was
18:40
Speaker 1: a really big thing too, because you know, if I
18:42
Speaker 1: was by myself, I probably just would have done it,
18:44
Speaker 1: like no, like they didn't think twice about it. But
18:46
Speaker 1: having him and him at the time not having like
18:49
Speaker 1: a secure job as well, it was just more like entrepreneurship,
18:51
Speaker 1: just kind of doing the entrepreneur thing. You never know
18:55
Speaker 1: what you're going to make, and so whenever I said, hey,
18:58
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do this anymore,
18:59
Speaker 1: he was like, cool, let's figure it out. We always
19:01
Speaker 1: figure it out.
19:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a common question that we ask with in
19:06
Speaker 2: life coaching, like what's the worst thing that's going to happen?
19:09
Speaker 2: In ninety nine point nine percent of the time, the
19:11
Speaker 2: worst thing that's going to happen is that you're just
19:13
Speaker 2: exactly where you started.
19:14
Speaker 3: Right.
19:15
Speaker 2: So by saying that and thinking that through, depending on
19:19
Speaker 2: the situation, of course, you have an opportunity then to
19:22
Speaker 2: be like, oh, it really isn't that bad. And I
19:26
Speaker 2: also love having a partner that supports you and as
19:30
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur.
19:31
Speaker 3: Let's dig into that a little bit.
19:33
Speaker 2: What it's like for the two of you to kind
19:36
Speaker 2: of find stability together within the instability.
19:39
Speaker 3: How does that work in your family?
19:41
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, you know, people always like people that are
19:45
Speaker 1: very close to us that know both of us are
19:46
Speaker 1: always like you too. You guys are hilarious because we
19:50
Speaker 1: literally like if like, we'll just we just trust our gut.
19:54
Speaker 1: We've both been gut people ever since we were we
19:57
Speaker 1: were little. And I think while that can be very
19:59
Speaker 1: day at times, it hasn't screwed us yet, not kind
20:03
Speaker 1: of would, but you know, there are plenty of times
20:05
Speaker 1: where we just have to, you know, just work as
20:07
Speaker 1: a team, and we know that we're working together no
20:09
Speaker 1: matter what, and when never working against each other. Every
20:12
Speaker 1: decision that we make, we we know that it's for
20:15
Speaker 1: the benefit of our family. And if the reason is like, hey,
20:18
Speaker 1: I want more time with the kids, I don't want
20:20
Speaker 1: to work as much, or I want this or that,
20:22
Speaker 1: like we'll say, okay, cool, figure it out. Maybe I
20:24
Speaker 1: need to pick up a few more clients or this
20:25
Speaker 1: and that, or figure out what other projects that can
20:28
Speaker 1: work out to make more money. But you know, I
20:30
Speaker 1: think we just see where we want to be, and
20:34
Speaker 1: we talk about our goals every single day, not even
20:37
Speaker 1: just goals, but just talk about where we are. We
20:38
Speaker 1: have like assessments of everything, I would say almost every day,
20:43
Speaker 1: And I think just a big thing for both of
20:46
Speaker 1: us is just like really being grateful for everything we
20:51
Speaker 1: have because a lot of people, I think, you know,
20:54
Speaker 1: if they don't have a lot, they wish that they
20:56
Speaker 1: had more, and I'm truly in that a bunch and
21:00
Speaker 1: it's mindset. The more that you see what you have
21:03
Speaker 1: and you're grateful for it, the more that comes to you.
21:06
Speaker 1: And you know, we both are in that world of service,
21:09
Speaker 1: and we know that the more we serve others and
21:11
Speaker 1: the more that we give to others, the more that
21:13
Speaker 1: we'll we'll get naturally.
21:15
Speaker 3: What do regular assessments look like for you?
21:19
Speaker 1: After we put the kids down, Like Nick will go
21:21
Speaker 1: outside and like have some relaxing time and then I'll
21:24
Speaker 1: like text them. I'll be like, hey, you got a minute,
21:26
Speaker 1: and so he'll come inside and we literally would just
21:28
Speaker 1: like sit there and talk about what what our day
21:31
Speaker 1: looks like, what the week is look like, what his
21:33
Speaker 1: clientele look like, what are the next few months look like?
21:36
Speaker 1: And you know, we never go that deep every day,
21:38
Speaker 1: but you know, typically it's like every day is more
21:42
Speaker 1: like a what's what's tomorrow look like, what's the next
21:45
Speaker 1: what's the weekend look like? And some you know, we
21:48
Speaker 1: are very busy. You know, we have the kids in
21:50
Speaker 1: the morning, we try to spend time and whenever we're
21:52
Speaker 1: with the kids, we don't try to talk about work.
21:55
Speaker 1: And it's also very hard to talk about work around
21:57
Speaker 1: the kids because they want your attention. But you know,
21:59
Speaker 1: we're we're very big on making sure we're just on
22:02
Speaker 1: the same page. So at the end of the day,
22:04
Speaker 1: what happened today, What is something that you're worried about,
22:08
Speaker 1: what's coming up for the week?
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Speaker 2: So to go back to what we started our conversation
23:41
Speaker 2: talking about, when it comes to kind of dividing your
23:44
Speaker 2: time or setting goals between personal and professional in your
23:49
Speaker 2: day to day audit of what's going on, do you
23:52
Speaker 2: feel as though you're paying attention to where you are
23:56
Speaker 2: putting most of your efforts.
23:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think everything goes in seasons. Two you know,
24:01
Speaker 1: like as of late, I've been working on launching my app.
24:05
Speaker 1: So like when our nanny is here, I'm like, I
24:07
Speaker 1: gotta get outside and do all this stuff for the app.
24:09
Speaker 1: I'm working like twelve to five. Usually when she's here,
24:13
Speaker 1: I might go inside and play with the kids for
24:15
Speaker 1: a little bit, come outside, you know, do a few things,
24:18
Speaker 1: come back in answer a few emails. So it just
24:21
Speaker 1: comes in season. So like we have the communication of like, hey,
24:24
Speaker 1: I'm at like ten percent right now, I need you
24:27
Speaker 1: to pick up the other ninety percent because I'm just
24:30
Speaker 1: I'm just not feeling it right now. And so that
24:32
Speaker 1: has been really big for us. Like, for example, Nick
24:34
Speaker 1: woke up this morning, I got my workout in, so
24:36
Speaker 1: we had to take care of the kids and oh,
24:38
Speaker 1: so it was just on another level and he and
24:41
Speaker 1: then his coffee maker thing wasn't working, so and then
24:43
Speaker 1: he was just like I'm at and like we communicate this.
24:45
Speaker 1: He's like I'm at ten percent, Like I really I
24:48
Speaker 1: need you to pick up the other night. So I
24:49
Speaker 1: was like, all right, let's let's go do so that
24:51
Speaker 1: I'm dancing around for the kids, trying to make everyone happy.
24:53
Speaker 1: And you know, we we're really good at sensing it
24:55
Speaker 1: from each other, but we're also even better at explaining
24:59
Speaker 1: it to each other. Like you know, it could it
25:01
Speaker 1: could go the way like oh, I'm like, oh man,
25:03
Speaker 1: he's so cranky, what's his deal? But instead I'm like, oh,
25:05
Speaker 1: I think he might eat something. So I ask him like, hey,
25:07
Speaker 1: where are you at right now? What's going on? And
25:09
Speaker 1: He'll be like I just need a little help, you know,
25:11
Speaker 1: I think communication more than anything.
25:14
Speaker 2: Was there a point where you established this model within
25:20
Speaker 2: your family? I think that this is applicable, of course,
25:22
Speaker 2: beyond a family unit, right in so many relationships. If
25:26
Speaker 2: you got to a place where you felt comfortable enough
25:28
Speaker 2: to communicate what's really going on. I say that knowing
25:32
Speaker 2: that there is difficulty sometimes with admitting when you feel
25:38
Speaker 2: like you can't handle everything. So was there a certain
25:42
Speaker 2: experience or something that taught you the importance of this
25:45
Speaker 2: communication and how did you get over some of that
25:49
Speaker 2: guilt that comes with not being at a hundred.
25:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that just just being thrown
25:56
Speaker 1: in with kids was definitely the biggest, you know, the
25:59
Speaker 1: biggest wake up call, well, you know, just being like okay,
26:01
Speaker 1: like we can't just be overwhelmed all the time. Someone
26:04
Speaker 1: has to pick up the slack. And I think it
26:06
Speaker 1: was I don't remember who we saw, but we saw
26:08
Speaker 1: somebody else doing this on Instagram, one of the many
26:12
Speaker 1: good things about Instagram. Someone was talking about on their
26:15
Speaker 1: podcast and how they do that. And ever since we
26:17
Speaker 1: saw that, we were just were like, you know what,
26:19
Speaker 1: this is what we need to do because there'll be
26:21
Speaker 1: so many times where we're just like aha, I get
26:23
Speaker 1: just chaos. And it was just like that moment where
26:25
Speaker 1: we're like, this is like a good thing for us
26:28
Speaker 1: to see when we're not stressed, So we knew that
26:31
Speaker 1: when we were stressed we can apply it because I
26:33
Speaker 1: think a lot of people they try to talk about
26:35
Speaker 1: things when they're stressed or what there is chaos, but
26:38
Speaker 1: you have to like really talk about those things when
26:40
Speaker 1: there's a controlled environment.
26:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like that lesson of never going to
26:45
Speaker 2: the grocery store when you're hungry.
26:47
Speaker 1: One percent.
26:50
Speaker 3: Yes, totally the same thing. I do want to double
26:54
Speaker 3: click on.
26:56
Speaker 2: We were talking about entrepreneurship life an entrepreneur, how it
27:00
Speaker 2: can be quite hectic. What advice do you offer to
27:04
Speaker 2: aspiring entrepreneurs individuals who may either be ready to take
27:09
Speaker 2: the leap from a job where someone else writes their
27:13
Speaker 2: paycheck versus, or perhaps someone who.
27:17
Speaker 3: Is just in the phase of thinking about it.
27:20
Speaker 1: I think in the beginning, it's really good to do
27:24
Speaker 1: a lot of different things and just kind of put
27:27
Speaker 1: dip your feet into different buckets. And I've been reading
27:31
Speaker 1: Daily Robert Green his Daily Laws, and I love that
27:35
Speaker 1: he shared that Rian Holiday, who I'm such a big
27:38
Speaker 1: fan of. Ryan Holiday, was like, Hey, I want to
27:42
Speaker 1: be your intern, and I want to do all these
27:45
Speaker 1: things for you for free basically, And Robert Green actually
27:49
Speaker 1: learned a bunch of stuff from Ryan. So I just
27:51
Speaker 1: thought that was so interesting. And I think whenever you
27:54
Speaker 1: want to be that person that wants to learn all
27:56
Speaker 1: these different things from a mentor, you also want to
27:59
Speaker 1: figure out a way that you can serve them as well.
28:02
Speaker 1: So I love that Robert was like Ryan had so
28:04
Speaker 1: much to offer me even though he was really looking
28:07
Speaker 1: to me to be his mentor. So I think it
28:10
Speaker 1: just has to be reciprocated. I think a lot of times,
28:13
Speaker 1: I think as a coach or someone that's been doing
28:15
Speaker 1: this for about ten plus years, I've had a lot
28:18
Speaker 1: of people like say, hey can I can I can
28:21
Speaker 1: I be a mentor? Can I try this out? Or
28:23
Speaker 1: can I do this? And I feel like it's a
28:25
Speaker 1: lot of taking, but I think it should be reciprocal.
28:27
Speaker 1: And so if you're thinking of taking the leap or
28:29
Speaker 1: trying to do something else, like you yues have like
28:32
Speaker 1: a mentor and have something that someone that you look
28:35
Speaker 1: up to. But I think that try to figure out
28:37
Speaker 1: how you can serve them in a way. And I
28:39
Speaker 1: think that you'll find that you'll learn so much from them,
28:42
Speaker 1: but then also you'll learn a lot from each other.
28:45
Speaker 2: That's a great for reliine that you're really reiterating here
28:49
Speaker 2: being someone who is in the service industry, knowing that
28:52
Speaker 2: it can be a lot to constantly give, but there's
28:54
Speaker 2: so much opportunity in the act of that giving, and
28:58
Speaker 2: that ninety nine point nine percent of the time it's
29:00
Speaker 2: always going to come back around to you. I also
29:05
Speaker 2: really appreciate the sentiments of this tip, which is don't
29:09
Speaker 2: go at it alone, right, so as you are on
29:12
Speaker 2: your quest trying to figure out what feels right for you,
29:15
Speaker 2: as you move forward through entrepreneurship, knowing that it's okay
29:19
Speaker 2: to ask for help, it's okay to have questions, reach
29:22
Speaker 2: out to people that inspire you, that make you excited.
29:25
Speaker 2: And the worst thing, again, we're back here. That's going
29:28
Speaker 2: to happen if you ask them something and they say no,
29:32
Speaker 2: is that you're exactly where you started.
29:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think the community aspect is such a
29:37
Speaker 1: big thing too. I love that too, because it's like,
29:40
Speaker 1: you know, even just moving here to Texas, like I
29:43
Speaker 1: was pregnant the first year, then it was postpartum the
29:46
Speaker 1: next four to six months, and I didn't realize how
29:50
Speaker 1: lonely I was until I had community again. And it's
29:54
Speaker 1: so important to have those relationships. You know, I had
29:57
Speaker 1: all my friends in LA, but they were in LA,
29:59
Speaker 1: and you know, and now that I I have people here,
30:01
Speaker 1: it's really nice to be able to connect and grow
30:04
Speaker 1: with people. And it doesn't need to be people that
30:06
Speaker 1: are here, but like, even just connecting with people on
30:08
Speaker 1: FaceTime and connecting with people and the grocery store or
30:13
Speaker 1: you know, just anything is just like I think that
30:15
Speaker 1: people really need connection and community.
30:18
Speaker 3: Oh yes, one hundred percent.
30:20
Speaker 2: Even though I work for myself, clearly, I do occasionally
30:23
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to talk awesome people like yourself, But
30:26
Speaker 2: I spend so much time alone. So I build in
30:30
Speaker 2: community time to my schedule. When I sit down and
30:34
Speaker 2: think about what's going on for the week, on Sundays,
30:36
Speaker 2: I'm going to go every single week to make a
30:39
Speaker 2: friend date at least one date with a friend, usually
30:42
Speaker 2: for some sort of a workout instead of just sitting
30:45
Speaker 2: at the restaurant or a bar right doing something that
30:49
Speaker 2: I can look forward to. Maybe it's on Thursday, And
30:52
Speaker 2: I said it on Sunday, and then it's like, Okay,
30:54
Speaker 2: this is something that's going to be the highlight of
30:56
Speaker 2: my week. I know it, and it builds in community
30:58
Speaker 2: for me, especially during my busiest times, especially in the
31:03
Speaker 2: weeks and the stretches of time where I feel like
31:05
Speaker 2: there is no way that I could make something like
31:08
Speaker 2: that happen.
31:08
Speaker 3: It's a priority that I've made for myself.
31:10
Speaker 1: It really is, because it gives you more space.
31:13
Speaker 2: It does give you more space, and it gives you
31:14
Speaker 2: the opportunity to fill up your own cup. You can't
31:18
Speaker 2: pour from an empty cop and there are going to
31:21
Speaker 2: be so many things that happened during the week that
31:23
Speaker 2: poke holds in your cup, no matter how big or small.
31:26
Speaker 2: So it's up to you to do the damage control
31:28
Speaker 2: ahead of time so that you can repair as you go.
31:32
Speaker 2: I'm really loving this conversation on entrepreneurship and it's making
31:36
Speaker 2: me feel a lot less alone in what I go through.
31:40
Speaker 2: When you started out, Betina, what would you say was
31:44
Speaker 2: one of the most difficult parts of the learning curve
31:48
Speaker 2: of being your own boss?
31:50
Speaker 1: I think at some point it was knowing your worth
31:53
Speaker 1: and knowing where my boundaries were. Because you're an entrepreneur,
31:58
Speaker 1: you want to say yes to everything, because you don't
32:01
Speaker 1: you just are like, oh, like everything is exciting. But
32:04
Speaker 1: I think as you get into it more after so
32:08
Speaker 1: many years, you are really honing in on what your
32:10
Speaker 1: brand is, who you're serving, and then that kind of
32:13
Speaker 1: helps you figure out what to say no to and
32:16
Speaker 1: where you could set your boundaries and set your rate at.
32:20
Speaker 1: You know, there are some times where you know, I'm like, yeah,
32:23
Speaker 1: I would do it for X amount because I know
32:25
Speaker 1: that there are so many other ways that this can
32:27
Speaker 1: serve me and my brand. But then if it's something
32:30
Speaker 1: that I'm like not very excited about, or I know
32:32
Speaker 1: it's not going to elevate other things that are very
32:35
Speaker 1: important to me, maybe I will charge a little bit higher.
32:37
Speaker 1: And it is scary, you know. I mean it is
32:40
Speaker 1: scary when you say, hey, this is my rate. I
32:43
Speaker 1: think that you just got to build that confidence. And
32:45
Speaker 1: I think whatever industry you're in, you just have to
32:48
Speaker 1: be patient and just continue to learn and grow and
32:50
Speaker 1: build that confidence within yourself and also talk to other
32:54
Speaker 1: people in your industry and those mentors and figure out
32:58
Speaker 1: you know, I think more people should be talking about
33:00
Speaker 1: money and you know, and being open about that because
33:03
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know how how that is
33:05
Speaker 1: and where the rates are at.
33:07
Speaker 3: It's so true regardless of what industry you're in.
33:10
Speaker 2: I also, on that note of owning your value and
33:13
Speaker 2: owning your worth, you have to get to a place
33:16
Speaker 2: where you are okay walking away from someone who doesn't
33:21
Speaker 2: see your value, and that's super challenging. Clearly, over time,
33:25
Speaker 2: that number, those numbers, they're gonna ebb and flow, right,
33:29
Speaker 2: They're going to change from when you have one to
33:33
Speaker 2: two years of experience versus when you've been working in
33:36
Speaker 2: your field for a decade.
33:38
Speaker 3: Right, and owning what it is that you bring to.
33:41
Speaker 2: The table is intimidating at times, but it is what
33:45
Speaker 2: makes you you. There is one you, right, and if
33:49
Speaker 2: a company values you, values what you bring to the table,
33:53
Speaker 2: then telling them what it is that your time is worth,
33:55
Speaker 2: that your services are worth, won't be as scary preach preach,
34:02
Speaker 2: And I also love what you said about knowing that
34:05
Speaker 2: it's bigger than dollars, right, Like, if there is something
34:08
Speaker 2: that has a deep connection to your values, your purpose,
34:12
Speaker 2: your passion, it might be disheartening that they don't have
34:14
Speaker 2: the budget to pay you what you're after, but that
34:17
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you can't still find value in collaborating
34:20
Speaker 2: with this person or brand, knowing that it is serving
34:24
Speaker 2: a different side of your ethos. So maybe it's a
34:27
Speaker 2: charitable opportunity, or maybe it's an opportunity to come together
34:30
Speaker 2: in community, and community is something that excites you. Perhaps
34:33
Speaker 2: there's movement involved, and movement is one of your core values,
34:36
Speaker 2: whatever it might be for your individual situation. Know that
34:40
Speaker 2: money is only one way that something can be worth
34:43
Speaker 2: your time.
34:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.
34:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, So right off the get go, getting to a
34:48
Speaker 2: place where you feel as though you can really articulate
34:51
Speaker 2: what your value is. Knowing your worth definitely important for
34:55
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur. And then I do want to circle back
34:58
Speaker 2: though to the concept of setting goals, because I think
35:01
Speaker 2: that that can be very intimidating for someone who's just
35:04
Speaker 2: starting out.
35:05
Speaker 3: Can you recall how your.
35:07
Speaker 2: Goal setting has evolved as an entrepreneur, because I'm sure
35:10
Speaker 2: when you started out you had very different goals than you.
35:12
Speaker 1: Very different goals when I when I first became a trainer,
35:16
Speaker 1: I was actually still playing in the band full time.
35:18
Speaker 1: So I used to play in a top forty cover band.
35:20
Speaker 1: So I'm waking up at five am to teach classes.
35:24
Speaker 1: But then on the weekends I was staying up till
35:26
Speaker 1: three am. So, as you can imagine, I was able
35:29
Speaker 1: to do that. I was in my early twenties, but
35:30
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I knew it wasn't sustainable.
35:33
Speaker 1: So at that time I was just like, Okay, how
35:35
Speaker 1: do I become a trainer full time? So it was
35:39
Speaker 1: more less at that point, like Okay, I want to
35:42
Speaker 1: have this many clients, this and this and that. It
35:44
Speaker 1: was more like, Okay, how can I transition from this
35:47
Speaker 1: job to the next. So I think that a lot
35:50
Speaker 1: of people can relate to that when they're making the
35:52
Speaker 1: change from one job to another. Like I was hustling
35:54
Speaker 1: for like months and months and months, just like not
35:58
Speaker 1: getting any sleep. But then I knew that my all
36:00
Speaker 1: goal was to become a trainer full time, and then
36:02
Speaker 1: I finally got that goal. And then at that point
36:04
Speaker 1: I made bigger goals, whether it be to have this
36:07
Speaker 1: many clients, to make this amount of money, and then
36:09
Speaker 1: I started like dabbling and getting on camera more. And
36:13
Speaker 1: then I was like, hey, I want to be the
36:14
Speaker 1: next Jillian Michaels, but the nice version. And so it
36:17
Speaker 1: was just like this this ongoing, like I was starting
36:22
Speaker 1: to be more like visionary about it. And that's when
36:24
Speaker 1: the whole like manifestation, seeing those like expanders in my life,
36:29
Speaker 1: like Gillian Michaels, and seeing what they were doing, because
36:31
Speaker 1: at the time, there was really nobody liked Jillian Michaels
36:33
Speaker 1: like on TV, you know, I wanted to be that.
36:36
Speaker 1: And now, obviously there are so many ways to be
36:39
Speaker 1: on TV or to get in front of people that
36:41
Speaker 1: aren't just your people and your classes. So I've definitely
36:44
Speaker 1: expanded from there. But now I'm always asking myself how
36:47
Speaker 1: can I serve? Obviously there's an amount of money attached
36:50
Speaker 1: to certain things, but I'm always asking myself, who can
36:53
Speaker 1: I serve? How can I serve? And how is this
36:57
Speaker 1: going to help my every day and my schedule that
37:00
Speaker 1: I want for myself.
37:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, in those early phases, what would you say was
37:06
Speaker 2: one of the biggest mistakes that you made?
37:09
Speaker 3: Oh?
37:11
Speaker 1: You know what, I think I was trying too hard.
37:13
Speaker 1: I mean, I was trying to be I had and
37:16
Speaker 1: I think everybody has this imposter syndrome. I was trying
37:19
Speaker 1: to be like I wasn't honest with myself. I wasn't like, hey,
37:22
Speaker 1: I've only been doing this for six months. I was
37:24
Speaker 1: trying so hard to be like, I'm so smart, I
37:28
Speaker 1: know all the things about training, but you know, truthfully,
37:31
Speaker 1: I was just playing in a band and I really
37:34
Speaker 1: liked fitness and wanted to start working out and start
37:36
Speaker 1: training people. And I think that at times it hurt
37:39
Speaker 1: some of the relationships that I had with clients because
37:42
Speaker 1: then I felt like I was almost like trying too
37:44
Speaker 1: hard to impress them and like I was like pushing
37:47
Speaker 1: them too hard, and I could only remember specifically one
37:50
Speaker 1: client that way I was, and I feel like I
37:52
Speaker 1: always think about it. I'm like, man, I feel like
37:54
Speaker 1: if I if I were to train them now, I
37:56
Speaker 1: could have impacted their life differently. And I really like,
37:59
Speaker 1: I just wish that I would have had less ego
38:03
Speaker 1: than I do now. And so I think overall, it
38:05
Speaker 1: was just the ego, especially when you're trying something new,
38:08
Speaker 1: and you really just have to let go of that.
38:10
Speaker 1: And where it really changed for me was when I
38:13
Speaker 1: read Ryan Holiday's Ego is the Enemy book. I really
38:15
Speaker 1: am such a big fan of Ryan Holiday and all
38:17
Speaker 1: of his books, and that one was a big, big
38:20
Speaker 1: game changer for me.
38:21
Speaker 3: Hmm, I'm gonna have to download this. What a great recommendation.
38:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised you have never read it. It's
38:27
Speaker 1: really great.
38:28
Speaker 2: I have it, and I appreciate the reflection and also
38:32
Speaker 2: that you evolved over time as you came to understand
38:38
Speaker 2: what excited you, what you felt like could be good at.
38:41
Speaker 2: You embrace the pivot, and so often as an entrepreneur,
38:46
Speaker 2: I feel as though, this is what I'm good at,
38:50
Speaker 2: this is the lane I should stay in period, right,
38:53
Speaker 2: and then I have these moments where I have to
38:57
Speaker 2: shake myself and be like, just because you haven't tried
38:59
Speaker 2: it before doesn't mean that you can't be good at it.
39:02
Speaker 2: Or just because you did it this one way previously
39:06
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you can't get to the same goal by
39:09
Speaker 2: quote unquote breaking the matrix and going about it in
39:11
Speaker 2: a different way. And so I really appreciate that although
39:15
Speaker 2: you had this original goal of being you know, a
39:18
Speaker 2: nice Chilian Michaels, you started to understand that there were
39:23
Speaker 2: other things that interested in you and that you could
39:26
Speaker 2: kind of follow your own path to getting where ever
39:29
Speaker 2: might be right for you. And also this note that
39:33
Speaker 2: if it feels too hard, it's probably not right.
39:36
Speaker 3: Yes, how important is that Betina.
39:40
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. You should never force anything, should
39:44
Speaker 1: not feel like you're forcing anything.
39:46
Speaker 3: The only things that I will force are getting paid.
39:52
Speaker 1: Fact, that is a fact.
39:54
Speaker 2: It is the only thing that I will email relentlessly
39:58
Speaker 2: about if it is beyond on the scope of when
40:01
Speaker 2: we agreed upon. At this point, I have come to
40:04
Speaker 2: realize that if it is too hard to forge a
40:08
Speaker 2: new relationship or get in the mix with a certain person,
40:12
Speaker 2: whether it's someone I want to have on the show
40:13
Speaker 2: or someone that's working at a brand, whatever it might be,
40:17
Speaker 2: if it's not feeling I don't want to say easy,
40:22
Speaker 2: because it's not always easy, but it should not be.
40:25
Speaker 3: The bane of your existence.
40:26
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Life is really too short, you know. There
40:30
Speaker 1: are so many things that there are so many other opportunities,
40:33
Speaker 1: and so many other people that would love to be
40:34
Speaker 1: on your podcast, so many brands I would love to
40:36
Speaker 1: work with you. And that's that's where it really comes
40:38
Speaker 1: down to. I think that we just try so hard
40:40
Speaker 1: to get somewhere or to get certain things when a
40:43
Speaker 1: lot of it is right in front of you and
40:45
Speaker 1: there's people knocking at your doors NonStop. So I think
40:47
Speaker 1: that you're exactly right. You don't just need to force anything.
40:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, adding to the list of like
40:55
Speaker 2: maybe mistakes that I made early on, it really is
41:00
Speaker 2: in line with what you are saying by being a
41:03
Speaker 2: yes person to everything. I don't regret being a yes person.
41:06
Speaker 2: I think that it taught me a lot. But what
41:10
Speaker 2: it also did was it took my bandwidth away from
41:15
Speaker 2: things that excited me. I was saying yes to a
41:18
Speaker 2: lot of things and didn't necessarily feel aligned with all
41:21
Speaker 2: of them, so that was a problem. And then the
41:25
Speaker 2: other thing that being a yes person did was it
41:28
Speaker 2: really continuously drained my cup. I didn't feel like I
41:33
Speaker 2: had enough time for myself, and so it's in retrospect
41:39
Speaker 2: a lesson. It wasn't a mistake, but now I know
41:42
Speaker 2: that no is my biggest, most greatest word in my vocabulary,
41:48
Speaker 2: and to be able to use the word no, especially
41:51
Speaker 2: when it comes to taking care of myself so that
41:55
Speaker 2: I can do the things that make me excited and
41:58
Speaker 2: be more of a person that can be in service.
42:01
Speaker 2: That is, that's the way that you need to go
42:05
Speaker 2: about your day to day.
42:07
Speaker 1: And you know you said it's not necessarily a mistake,
42:10
Speaker 1: it's a big lesson. I think That's why trying different
42:12
Speaker 1: things and then assessing later on instead of just keep
42:17
Speaker 1: saying yes, yes, yes, yes yes for years and years
42:19
Speaker 1: and years, which I think is what a lot of
42:20
Speaker 1: corporate people do. After a while, they're like, wait, I
42:24
Speaker 1: just I don't even know what just happened after the
42:26
Speaker 1: past ten years of my life. You haven't taken the
42:29
Speaker 1: time to reassess and figure out what have I tried,
42:32
Speaker 1: what have I been doing, What's what do I need
42:34
Speaker 1: to change? And you know, especially in the beginning of
42:37
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur life, you have to try different things. But
42:40
Speaker 1: then after a while, you know what is going to
42:43
Speaker 1: fill your cup, and then you know how you can
42:45
Speaker 1: serve at the highest level, so that you can craft
42:47
Speaker 1: your schedule and be able to serve at the highest level.
42:50
Speaker 2: I think another huge mistake that people make is they
42:53
Speaker 2: think to themselves, well, someone else is already doing something similar,
42:57
Speaker 2: so I better not even try.
42:59
Speaker 3: Yeah yes, oh yeah, yeah.
43:02
Speaker 2: Especially I mean, let's apply it again to fitness training.
43:05
Speaker 2: There are bazillions of fitness trainers, but there's only one you,
43:10
Speaker 2: and there's only one you that can interact with people
43:14
Speaker 2: in a certain way and is in your certain location
43:17
Speaker 2: and has your specific skill.
43:20
Speaker 3: Set and knowing that and owning that.
43:23
Speaker 2: Is so crucial to being able to go after the
43:27
Speaker 2: things that excite you.
43:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, and really really just embracing that and who you
43:33
Speaker 1: are and who you can serve, because I think a
43:35
Speaker 1: lot of people are trying to serve the masses and
43:39
Speaker 1: trying to adapt themselves to serve everybody around them. But like,
43:44
Speaker 1: who you are and what your story is that can
43:47
Speaker 1: make such a big impact on one person if you
43:49
Speaker 1: truly are who you are, because you know, I mean,
43:51
Speaker 1: I'm really excited because even just being Filipino and a
43:54
Speaker 1: trainer ten years ago, I didn't see many Filipino trainers,
43:58
Speaker 1: and you know, were the ten years of being on
44:01
Speaker 1: platforms like Nike and Apple, Like, I've had so many
44:05
Speaker 1: Filipinos message me and say, I've never even seen somebody
44:08
Speaker 1: that looks like me work out, and to have you
44:11
Speaker 1: make this impact on me is amazing, you know, And
44:13
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what a difference that would make because
44:15
Speaker 1: you know, growing up, I was the only Filipino in
44:19
Speaker 1: a very white neighborhood. But my mom did everything to
44:22
Speaker 1: make sure that I didn't feel different. But I did
44:25
Speaker 1: feel different, but I never really knew how important it
44:29
Speaker 1: was to embrace my culture because I didn't have anyone
44:32
Speaker 1: else around me, and I didn't know that it was
44:34
Speaker 1: going to make a big difference because I never knew
44:35
Speaker 1: what it felt like to see somebody else that was
44:37
Speaker 1: brown like me. And so the fact that I was
44:40
Speaker 1: able to hear that from so many people around the
44:44
Speaker 1: world just made such a big impact in my heart.
44:48
Speaker 1: And I think that so many people need to really
44:50
Speaker 1: embrace their story and who they are. And I think
44:54
Speaker 1: that is about being vulnerable, you know. I think whether
44:59
Speaker 1: it's a story about being a single mom or maybe
45:02
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is that you have, like and
45:04
Speaker 1: you're comfortable telling those stories, especially if you're going the
45:07
Speaker 1: brand route of yourself, like, really embrace that.
45:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:11
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast, I think it was
45:13
Speaker 2: ho to Coppies and she was talking with Mel Robbins,
45:16
Speaker 2: and Mel Robbins mentioned that every single person on earth
45:20
Speaker 2: has the same purpose, and that purpose is actually just
45:24
Speaker 2: to be entirely authentically themselves and to come to a
45:29
Speaker 2: place where you understand that you, as your authentic self,
45:32
Speaker 2: not only have value, but then can help other people
45:35
Speaker 2: regardless of what you look like, what your circumstance has been,
45:39
Speaker 2: what your jobs have been, parents, children, whatever it is
45:44
Speaker 2: you have an individual that is unique to you. To
45:47
Speaker 2: show the world who it is that you are and
45:48
Speaker 2: be authentic about it. That's just truly the most special,
45:52
Speaker 2: special thing.
45:54
Speaker 1: I love that, and I think that's just especially important
45:56
Speaker 1: in relationships, whether it be your husband, your partner, your
45:59
Speaker 1: best friend, or coworkers. Like, whatever you can do to
46:02
Speaker 1: help enhance somebody and their skills and who they are
46:06
Speaker 1: is so important because I feel like so many times,
46:07
Speaker 1: like we get so annoyed with somebody and you want
46:10
Speaker 1: to change the way they're doing a certain thing. But
46:12
Speaker 1: like help them embrace all of their strengths and who
46:15
Speaker 1: they are. I think that can go such a far away,
46:17
Speaker 1: and that can build someone's confidence, and that can help
46:19
Speaker 1: them really just tell their story and embrace who they
46:23
Speaker 1: are and make an impact in everyone around them.
46:25
Speaker 3: For sure.
46:26
Speaker 2: Now, before I let you go today on the topic
46:29
Speaker 2: here of entrepreneurship lessons, I would be remiss if we
46:32
Speaker 2: didn't talk about money at least a little bit. So
46:35
Speaker 2: when it comes to being in this place, you're a
46:38
Speaker 2: relatively new entrepreneur, you have an idea of how much
46:41
Speaker 2: money you're trying to make every month, how much revenue
46:44
Speaker 2: you need, what your overhead costs are. What advice do
46:47
Speaker 2: you have for the person that inevitably runs into the
46:50
Speaker 2: position where they're worried about making enough to do what
46:54
Speaker 2: they need to do.
46:56
Speaker 1: I think it's important to know there's always enough and
46:59
Speaker 1: you just have to find it. You have to have
47:01
Speaker 1: that hustle to really want to find it and figure
47:04
Speaker 1: out where it's at, because there's always enough out there.
47:07
Speaker 1: There's always enough opportunity, and if you think that there's
47:10
Speaker 1: not enough, you're not looking hard enough.
47:13
Speaker 3: That's a really good piece of advice.
47:14
Speaker 2: I know that when I started out, I had a
47:17
Speaker 2: benchmark of how much money I wanted to secure at
47:21
Speaker 2: the halfway point of the month before. So, for instance,
47:26
Speaker 2: if it is February right now, and next month is March,
47:30
Speaker 2: by February fifteenth, I want to have allocated like seventy
47:34
Speaker 2: five percent of what I'm trying to make in March
47:37
Speaker 2: ahead of time. Then I trust the process and the
47:40
Speaker 2: universe and that I'll be able to figure out where
47:42
Speaker 2: the other twenty five percent comes from. Of course, certain
47:46
Speaker 2: months we're going to look a little bit different, and
47:47
Speaker 2: certain months i'd be able to secure one hundred or
47:51
Speaker 2: double like whatever it was that was bigger than that
47:53
Speaker 2: for myself, knowing that again going to this concept that
47:57
Speaker 2: what is.
47:58
Speaker 3: For you won't pass you by.
48:00
Speaker 2: That was the attitude of the approach that I had
48:02
Speaker 2: to take when it came to securing the things that
48:05
Speaker 2: felt right for me and then thus filling up that
48:08
Speaker 2: monthly budget so to speak.
48:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard though.
48:12
Speaker 2: It's so hard though, especially when you're starting out, which
48:14
Speaker 2: is why there are so many different ways that it
48:18
Speaker 2: can look at the beginning, especially when it's I have
48:22
Speaker 2: a full time job, but I have this idea, or
48:24
Speaker 2: like I've saved enough money so I'm ready to make
48:26
Speaker 2: the jump, like whatever your circumstance might be, know that
48:29
Speaker 2: there are so many different ways to dip your toe
48:32
Speaker 2: into trying something new, and you just need to be
48:35
Speaker 2: able to figure out which one feels right for you.
48:38
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll add, and it's more of
48:39
Speaker 1: a logistics thing. If you're going to be an entrepreneur,
48:42
Speaker 1: make sure you put away money for taxes.
48:45
Speaker 2: And I sid thirty five percent of every JEP that
48:49
Speaker 2: I get into a separate BIK account.
48:52
Speaker 3: YEP. I have a.
48:53
Speaker 2: Savings account, a business savings account and an Italy trip
48:58
Speaker 2: account Hey I.
48:59
Speaker 3: Love that, and a personal I'll check out.
49:05
Speaker 1: You have to you kind of have to separate. I
49:07
Speaker 1: think there is something beautiful about separating all of the
49:10
Speaker 1: accounts to just because you know. I think if you
49:12
Speaker 1: see it all in one thing, it's you know, just
49:13
Speaker 1: depending on you know, what your history is with money.
49:16
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people need to make sure
49:18
Speaker 1: that they have those separate accounts to make sure that
49:20
Speaker 1: they can have everything in check and obviously have those
49:23
Speaker 1: emergency funds as well.
49:25
Speaker 3: What excites you right now? Betina my app Betina go
49:31
Speaker 3: a TV apps.
49:32
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited because I think this is something
49:34
Speaker 1: that you know, everything that I've learned over the past
49:36
Speaker 1: ten years of coaching and being on camera and working
49:42
Speaker 1: with so many different brands, I've really embraced what people
49:46
Speaker 1: need and the combination of what my skills are and
49:49
Speaker 1: how I can serve. I've really combined into this one thing,
49:52
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see how I can impact more
49:55
Speaker 1: people's lives and hopefully more Pilipino lives.
50:00
Speaker 2: When you create an app, first of all, the whole
50:04
Speaker 2: concept sounds extremely overwhelming. I'm just so curious. How did
50:08
Speaker 2: you know where even to begin with that.
50:11
Speaker 1: I've been doing so much research for so long, and
50:14
Speaker 1: I you know, I've had so many developers reach out
50:16
Speaker 1: to me over the past five years, and I've saved
50:20
Speaker 1: every single email because you know, at the time, I
50:22
Speaker 1: knew that I wasn't allowed to have my own app,
50:24
Speaker 1: but I just was still like, you know what, I'm
50:26
Speaker 1: just gonna save it. I'm going to flag it. It's
50:27
Speaker 1: going to be in this folder and one day maybe
50:30
Speaker 1: I can revisit it. And I'm so glad that I did,
50:32
Speaker 1: because just at that time, five years ago, it wasn't
50:35
Speaker 1: a thing, but five years later it is, and I'm
50:37
Speaker 1: glad I save those relationships. You know, I talked to
50:40
Speaker 1: a lot of people, have been working on stop. My
50:42
Speaker 1: brain hurts a lot. I've been working a lot later
50:45
Speaker 1: and waking up really early just to get everything set up.
50:48
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited and I think that it's going
50:51
Speaker 1: to serve a lot of people. And I think that's
50:52
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me is I've I've just had
50:55
Speaker 1: that service on top of mine.
50:57
Speaker 3: When can we expect the app by the time Yes.
51:00
Speaker 1: Releases, I believe it out, Yeah, really.
51:04
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god? And the name of the app
51:07
Speaker 3: BGTV EGTV.
51:10
Speaker 2: Well, I will make sure that when this goes live,
51:12
Speaker 2: we link to BGTV in the show notes so the
51:16
Speaker 2: hurdlers can get some cool workouts from you.
51:21
Speaker 1: And I'm going to give you a you heardler listen
51:23
Speaker 1: listeners a special coupon code for fourteen days free, so
51:27
Speaker 1: make sure you check that.
51:28
Speaker 3: Out fourteen days free.
51:29
Speaker 2: The coupon code is going to be in the show notes,
51:31
Speaker 2: so make sure to like on over there, just so
51:33
Speaker 2: they know again what else can they expect within the BGTV.
51:36
Speaker 1: Yes, you'll get some follow along workouts, whiteboard workouts if
51:39
Speaker 1: you like to do things on your own at the gym.
51:42
Speaker 1: And then I also have some wellness mindful moment practices,
51:46
Speaker 1: some training tips, and then I love, absolutely love the
51:49
Speaker 1: community wall because it's something that I've really wanted in
51:52
Speaker 1: an app to be able to connect with all the
51:54
Speaker 1: people that want to do my workouts. I'm doing form
51:57
Speaker 1: checks on there, like i want to be able to
51:59
Speaker 1: scale my my coaching on a different levels, so now
52:02
Speaker 1: I can actually coach everyone at an affordable price.
52:05
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for you. Go.
52:07
Speaker 2: Aside from the app, how do the hurdlers keep up
52:09
Speaker 2: with you give us your information.
52:11
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can find me at ig at Bettina.
52:15
Speaker 2: Gozo Beautiful, I'm over at Emily A Body and at
52:18
Speaker 2: Hurdle Podcast.
52:19
Speaker 3: Another Hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next time