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Chuck & buck 12-22 Hour 2: 12th man news with Gregg Bell, gearing up for the Panthers and is Jedd Fisch headed to Ann Arbor for real? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: The season in the balance. Golf fires at the one.
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Speaker 1: He didn't get across, but there are.
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Speaker 2: Flags down, pulling its up with the hayward.
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Speaker 1: He goes to cross. Did they have a whistle first?
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Speaker 1: There's so many things on this level that I just
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Speaker 1: saw could be offensive pass interference. Actually, and then they
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Speaker 1: actually did score. When did the whistle get blown?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Too much for me? You go ahead, Jim. This is
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Speaker 1: like the two point play in Seattle the other night. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: exactly what's going on here?
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Speaker 2: Let's hear the call right here? What a major call?
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Speaker 1: Really on the fields? A festal, however, happen here?
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Speaker 2: Fait number fourteen on the offense.
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Speaker 3: My rule that penalty is.
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Speaker 2: Not enforced and there is no replay. The game is over.
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Speaker 3: No whoa OPI number fourteen the gates the penalty.
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Speaker 1: There is no recall. O wow, welcome back to Sports
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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. I am Buck. There
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Speaker 1: is no Chuck. We still have Ashley and we got
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Speaker 1: Hugh Breed Love in for all four hours. So Merry
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Speaker 1: Christmas to you. You all have been good. Apparently that
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Speaker 1: highlight we just heard there was the end of the game.
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Speaker 1: The Steelers Lions game last night. Crazy the Goaters, as
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Speaker 1: the breed Love likes to call it. Yeah, probably probably
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Speaker 1: could have announced it a different way and think unless
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Speaker 1: he just wanted to get them excited, I mean kind
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Speaker 1: of a crazy. The whole PI offensive PI, defensive PI,
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Speaker 1: like they don't call a bunch of defensive pis, and
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Speaker 1: then sometimes they call the tiki tak ones and then
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Speaker 1: the offensive pis don't happen a whole heck of a lot.
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Speaker 1: I had read somewhere last night. The Lions have two
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Speaker 1: times this season with an offensive pass interference in the
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Speaker 1: final like thirty seconds of a game that ended up
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Speaker 1: costing them, and that hasn't happened to any team in
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Speaker 1: the history of the NFL in a single season. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it is what it is. They ended up getting a
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Speaker 1: PI earlier in that drive that I was unforeced down
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Speaker 1: that they would have never gotten to that point hadn't
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Speaker 1: it been called. So you know, I typically don't say
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Speaker 1: one one call costs you the game. There's so many
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Speaker 1: things that happened over the course of sixty minutes, but
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Speaker 1: that one was nuts. Where the am on Saint Rob
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Speaker 1: goes out there basically runs right into Jayalen Ramsey kind
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Speaker 1: of knocks him off balance, cuts back out. Then they
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Speaker 1: stop him basically at the one, and I would have
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Speaker 1: thought that they blow the whistle and it's forward progress stopped,
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Speaker 1: and yet they don't. He gets pushed back four yards
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Speaker 1: or whatever. Then laterals it and golf picks it up
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Speaker 1: and jumps in HND zone. Looks like the game winner
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Speaker 1: or a game tying. It would have been the game winner,
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Speaker 1: game winning touchdown, but we saw the flag even before
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Speaker 1: the You saw the flag come out for the offensive
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Speaker 1: pass interference before the latteral even happened. But yeah, then
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Speaker 1: the refs come out and announce it like it was
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Speaker 1: a touchdown on the felt the crowd goes wild, but
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Speaker 1: there was offensive pass interference, so the touchdown didn't count
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Speaker 1: and obviously offensive penalty to end the game. There is
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Speaker 1: no next play like it would have been if it
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Speaker 1: was a defensive.
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Speaker 2: Well, it probably was offensive passing inference, but we've seen
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Speaker 2: we've seen more not get called uh in that regard,
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Speaker 2: and there was some flopping going on by Jayalen Ramsey
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Speaker 2: who was in the slot at the time. And then
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Speaker 2: and then on this on the game last night, there
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Speaker 2: was a pass interference that was not called defensive passing afference.
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Speaker 2: That was not called the receivers getting tackled. The ball's
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Speaker 2: halfway uh to its target and he's already getting tackled,
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Speaker 2: and they don't call that passing afference. So I just asked, you,
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Speaker 2: do you think that there there, their eyes are better
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Speaker 2: equipped to see that if they were chasing goats all week,
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Speaker 2: or if that was the twentieth game that they did
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Speaker 2: because they worked, they were full time officials, and and
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Speaker 2: they did virtual reality at a game sped up by
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Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty percent, so that when they actually
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Speaker 2: got arrived on Sunday, well, I said, wow, this game
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Speaker 2: feels slow because they've trained their eyes to be faster,
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Speaker 2: just like you have in a batter's box, just like
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Speaker 2: Edgar Martinez has described with one hundred and fifty miles
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Speaker 2: an hour tennis balls coming at him and how that
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Speaker 2: helped him. See, I mean, it's just.
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Speaker 1: You're appreaciate of the choir, you're appreaching of the choir.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a giant fan, but then again, I think
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Speaker 1: anybody that plays sports typically has a like, there's a
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Speaker 1: negative feeling, even though I respect them and it's not
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Speaker 1: an easy job. I think they're just a negative feeling
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Speaker 1: because everybody that's played has gotten screwed over by an
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Speaker 1: official or a referee or an umpire or whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: And yet I would think the NFL, the biggest in
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Speaker 1: all of the land when it comes to sports, would
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Speaker 1: have full blown, full time officials that are doing all
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Speaker 1: kinds of training, like you've said before, virtual training where
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Speaker 1: they're sped up and you've got to try to do
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Speaker 1: it at a one point five that's going to make
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Speaker 1: you better. I've done the thing that you're talking about
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Speaker 1: with Eddie Martinez with one hundred and fifty million hour
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Speaker 1: tennis balls. You slow that thing back down to ninety
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Speaker 1: five and it looks like a beach ball coming in there.
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Speaker 1: You can see every single seam on the ball because
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Speaker 1: your brain is a pretty amazing thing.
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Speaker 2: Virtual reality is done in the military, is done the
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Speaker 2: race car drivers, is done with pilots. I mean there
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Speaker 2: are simulators that are multi you know worth. We're tens
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Speaker 2: and tens of millions, probably over one hundred million now
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Speaker 2: of simulators for pilots like you have a chance you
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Speaker 2: could have every official other than the head referee. Every
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Speaker 2: official should be under the age of thirty five because
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Speaker 2: your eyes go first, right, yep. And they should be
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Speaker 2: flat belly, in incredible physical shape. And they and if
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Speaker 2: they spent the entire week training their eyes to be fast,
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Speaker 2: they're not going to be perfect, but you could improve
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Speaker 2: their their efficiency probably triple the quadruple just by having
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Speaker 2: them full time officials.
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Speaker 1: I'm with I'm with you. Well, you know what we
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Speaker 1: typically do headlines here to start this segment, We're gonna
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Speaker 1: go ahead and say that that suffices as headline because
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Speaker 1: now we're gonna get to the one and only Greg
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Speaker 1: Bell with a bell tolls.
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Speaker 4: Now with twelk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 1: Ge Rag. How you doing. How was your weekend?
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Speaker 3: Good morning? It was it was quiet, it was family,
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Speaker 3: it was watching a game or two. It was unique.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
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Speaker 3: There was good.
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Speaker 1: No flights back to Southeast Alaska that you had to
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Speaker 1: worry about.
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Speaker 3: No, it was great.
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Speaker 1: You go for a bike ride or a hike, or
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Speaker 1: you did something to benefit your body. I'm sure.
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Speaker 3: Actually what did I do? I did some weightlifting and oh,
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Speaker 3: bike riding, yeah, I did a little bit of that.
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Speaker 1: But well, good for you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Are the kids back for Christmas?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? They are? And that was great and that's what
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Speaker 3: made it really. We went and saw It's a Wonderful
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Speaker 3: Life yesterday is showing up on Capitol Hill at the
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Speaker 3: Northwest Film Festival.
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Speaker 1: Color and white, all the black and white.
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Speaker 3: Of course, the original it was.
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Speaker 1: We do it.
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Speaker 3: It's a family tradition here. We do it every Christmas.
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Speaker 3: We get all the bells and the friends that want
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Speaker 3: to come and family friends. And it's such a great film.
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Speaker 3: I mean, agreed, man, the reminder of what's really important.
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Speaker 3: I highly recommend for all the Christmas movies. People ask
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Speaker 3: me what Christmas movie you watch. It's a Wonderful Life
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Speaker 3: is a reaffirming Okay, this is what's all about.
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Speaker 1: All the bells, all the whistles, everything.
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Speaker 3: That's all I could think of when you says.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I was thinking, too. Well, good, I'm glad.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad. The whole fan's back, and you're going to
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Speaker 1: get to enjoy Christmas. That's the way it's supposed to be. Well,
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Speaker 1: a early Christmas present, I suppose for the Seahawks was
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Speaker 1: the Thursday night game. And I don't know for sure
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Speaker 1: if anybody would have even asked Santa for a game
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Speaker 1: like that necessarily, but they find themselves in pole position
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Speaker 1: for the division, which seems like it's probably going to
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Speaker 1: be pole positioned for the number one seed at this point.
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Speaker 1: At this point, did they get to the rest of
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Speaker 1: the weekend off? And when do they get back to
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Speaker 1: work because there still is some work to be done.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. They're back tomorrow. Let's today. They're back today,
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Speaker 3: but they won't be on the field today. McDonald gave
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Speaker 3: them Friday, Saturday, and Sunday off. It's the great advantage
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Speaker 3: of the Thursday game is the mini buyer comes on
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Speaker 3: the backside. They are going to do it differently this week.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have their meet today, They'll have practice on
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Speaker 3: Tuesday and Wednesday. Then they're gonna take Christmas Day off,
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Speaker 3: unusual for an NFL team for a Sunday game and
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Speaker 3: has Thursday off. BT of this Christmas and Mike McDonald
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Speaker 3: is a big believer in the family and being with family. Friday,
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Speaker 3: they'll come back to practice, then leave after practice to
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Speaker 3: go to Charlotte for the game against Carolina on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: That Carolina game is one of the bigger ones the
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Speaker 3: Panthers have had in a long time. After them beating
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Speaker 3: the Buccaneers yesterday, they're playing for the NFC South titled
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Speaker 3: It looks like that'll be the four seed whoever wins
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Speaker 3: the South, which is pertinent to the Seahawks because if
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Speaker 3: Seattle loses one of the next two games, in particular,
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Speaker 3: if they lose at San Francisco, they go back down
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Speaker 3: to the five seed. It appears if San Francisco and
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Speaker 3: the Rams keep winning, so as great as that Thursday
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Speaker 3: night game was, they're not done yet. The Seahorks have
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Speaker 3: worked to do here. The San Francisco game is setting
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Speaker 3: up as the NFC West title game if the Niners
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Speaker 3: can win tonight at Indianapolis and then beat Chicago next week,
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Speaker 3: which is of course no state of complete. The players
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Speaker 3: are playing really well the Packers the other night, But
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Speaker 3: if whoever doesn't win, the NFC West is going to
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Speaker 3: slide down the five and play the winner of the
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Speaker 3: NA South, So all of this stuff, the Panthers, the
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, and they could all come back together
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Speaker 3: again in a couple of weeks. If the Sauks don't
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Speaker 3: win a division, they could be at Carolina to begin
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Speaker 3: the NFC Wildcard playoffs. So yeah, as great as that
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Speaker 3: win was, the Seahawks aren't done yet. They still got
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Speaker 3: work to do.
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Speaker 2: What injury updates do we know from Thursday?
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Speaker 3: Well, Nicki o'lory hugh cleared percussion protocol at the stadium
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Speaker 3: and Mike McDonald's said that had the Rams got in
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Speaker 3: the ball back, they of course never going to because
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Speaker 3: they're going to go for two no matter what. But
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Speaker 3: even Whore he could have played the end of that
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Speaker 3: game if there was one more defensive series. But as
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Speaker 3: of the weekend, they were still tried to find out
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Speaker 3: how bad the knee injuries are for Reek Willing and
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Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant. It didn't sound well. After the game, McDonald
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Speaker 3: said it doesn't sound season ending for Kobe Bryant, but
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Speaker 3: left unsaid. So far is their availability for this weekend?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's good news. Was there anything? Well, as
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Speaker 1: far as the tackle goes, Josh Jones filled in admirably.
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Speaker 1: I would imagine it was Cross his injury one that
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Speaker 1: people should worry about him possibly not being back this weekend.
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Speaker 3: Possibly the hamstring. We talked about this last week. Hamstrings
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Speaker 3: this time of year, it's an injury that you don't
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Speaker 3: want to get bring a guy back too soon for him,
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Speaker 3: because then you miss him for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 3: So I would think he would be one who doesn't
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Speaker 3: practice this week or much practice, and probably be a
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Speaker 3: questionable by the end of the week. But yeah, that
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Speaker 3: Charles Cross the injury of hamstring injury when now that
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Speaker 3: the sex have clinched the playoffs, they've got to think
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Speaker 3: longer term here on whether they want to bring him
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Speaker 3: back right away.
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Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I'm curious how Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonald feels about the game. And in the following sense,
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Speaker 2: you could argue that if there's a matchup between Sean
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Speaker 2: McVeigh and Mike mcdonaldd, and there's been three of them,
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Speaker 2: because we're going to exclude the Week eighteen JV game
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Speaker 2: from a year ago, McDonald got the best of McVeigh
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Speaker 2: in last year's Loom and Field matchup. I mean there
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Speaker 2: were seven to three and ounced by the Rams. McDonald
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Speaker 2: got the best of McVeigh down in SOFI earlier, you know,
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty yards and the lowest total yards
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Speaker 2: output one hundred and thirty yards passing, and then the
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Speaker 2: total lowest total yard output in that game. But then
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Speaker 2: Thursday night, paradoxically, certainly McVeigh got the best of McDonald
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Speaker 2: when you consider the you know, close to six hundred
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Speaker 2: yards and what have you. Does McDonald have any comments
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Speaker 2: about any adjustments that he plans or does he take
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Speaker 2: any kind of Do you make any comments like whoa,
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Speaker 2: I got my ass handed to me? I know McVeigh
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Speaker 2: said that about Belichick and the Super Bowl that they
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Speaker 2: lost the Rams lost a few years back. Any fallout
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Speaker 2: to the defensive kind of collapse that was there for
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Speaker 2: much of the game.
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Speaker 3: Yes, well, both McDonald and Ernest Jones said that the
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Speaker 3: problem was and I asked both of them why five
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Speaker 3: under eighty one yards? They said the main problem was
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Speaker 3: miscommunication between the third and the second levels in pass
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Speaker 3: defense and the pass rush not getting home like it
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Speaker 3: had been. He McDonald went into the game thinking he
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Speaker 3: could do what he did to the Rams last month,
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Speaker 3: and most of the rest of the league is get
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Speaker 3: his front four to affect the quarterback enough where he
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Speaker 3: could cover with seven, and they didn't do it. The
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Speaker 3: Rams mostly blocked the front four to give Stafford time
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Speaker 3: for deep breaking in routes. How many times did we
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Speaker 3: see Pooka Naku in his two hundred and twenty five
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Speaker 3: yards catch the ball over the middle behind Ernest Jones,
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Speaker 3: the mid a linebacker in front of the safeties and
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Speaker 3: corner and it was that area to feel that. Jones
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Speaker 3: and McDonald said they had some miscommunications Tiler again, So
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Speaker 3: I asked, what changed when you had the three consecutive
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Speaker 3: three and outs in the fourth quarter? The defense subtly
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Speaker 3: had an uprising after giving up six hundred yards, and
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Speaker 3: they said it was messing and getting that miscommunication done
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Speaker 3: and the quarterback having to get off the snot the
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Speaker 3: other thing, get off the ball quickly. The other thing
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Speaker 3: Letter Williams pointed out was we stopped Kyrien Williams in
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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter so that the third downs were longer,
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Speaker 3: so that the pass routes were longer. And as Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald said, you can't straight rush the quarterback on third
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Speaker 3: and two. It just you can't do it. He gets
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Speaker 3: the ball out too quickly, but on third and nine,
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Speaker 3: Stafford had the hold the ball. They were a lot
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Speaker 3: more third and eight and third nines in the fourth
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Speaker 3: quarter because of their stopping Kyraen Williams, who ended up
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Speaker 3: only with seventy one yards Williams seventy one yards are
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Speaker 3: rushing Williams, it looked like he was gonna start the
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Speaker 3: game getting two hundred yards on the ground the way
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Speaker 3: he was breaking off eight to nine yard runs on
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Speaker 3: first down. So the shortest third downs caused Dafford at
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Speaker 3: the wait longer in the pass ust cut to them
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Speaker 3: more effectively, and thus the passes weren't nearly as accurate
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Speaker 3: and the over the middle gets short up. But you
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Speaker 3: can bet the Panthers this week with the Bryce Young
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Speaker 3: the Niners. Next week, Kyle Shannon is gonna have Brock
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Speaker 3: pretty probing the middle deep middle of the Seahawks secondary
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Speaker 3: behind the linebackers, and the question will be whether the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks can get to the quarterback and affect him before
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Speaker 3: they can wait on those longer breaking in routs.
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Speaker 1: Gee, I mean, looking at this point in the season,
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Speaker 1: I mean this is not I think you start talking
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Speaker 1: about sample sizes, you kind of know who everybody is
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Speaker 1: everybody's shown their cards to some degree, and yet across
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Speaker 1: the NFL will stick to the NFC in general. But
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Speaker 1: across the NFL, it doesn't seem like there's any clear cut,
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we've seen in recent years where
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs look like the undoubtable team to beat,
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Speaker 1: or this season, I think the Rams have been in
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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have been in that conversation no One
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Speaker 1: seed at this point in time. Are they the most
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Speaker 1: feared team in the NFC or is there someone matchup
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Speaker 1: wise that they should worry about?
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Speaker 3: Should that the seahawkcstion worry about. I think the sea
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Speaker 3: oction worry big about the forty nine ers. They've still
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Speaker 3: lost seven of the last eight, and they should also
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Speaker 3: worry about the Rams. And there's a good chance, especially
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Speaker 3: if they both keep winning, that their Rams and Seahawks
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Speaker 3: could be the NFC title game. We'll find out the
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Speaker 3: next couple weeks whether that game would be in Seattle
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Speaker 3: or LA. But the Rams just put five and one
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Speaker 3: up on them, and the seas have lost seven and
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Speaker 3: last eight games of the forty nine ers, so including
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Speaker 3: this week. This year, at the beginning of the season,
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Speaker 3: so until for the notice, they've still been conquered by
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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, and they're going to have to
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Speaker 3: beat San Francisco in Week eighteen to win the division
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Speaker 3: and get the one seed. It appears unless the Niners
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Speaker 3: and Panthers both just fall on their face, and the
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Speaker 3: Niners and Rams, the should say both just fall on
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Speaker 3: their faces the next two weeks. So that's my point
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Speaker 3: at the top. They are now of the Woods, yet
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Speaker 3: they're not even out of the division yet, And if
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Speaker 3: they don't win the next two games, they're on the road,
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Speaker 3: and we've talked about what the path would be three
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Speaker 3: straight road games and where they'd have to go through,
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Speaker 3: and so they in a sense would be giving back
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Speaker 3: what they gained by losing to the by beating the
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Speaker 3: Rams the other night if they lose one of the
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Speaker 3: next two games. Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco on the
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage in particular, have owned Seattle. Defensive and
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Speaker 3: offensive lines have just owned them for better part of
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Speaker 3: half six at least half a dozen years. Now. It
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Speaker 3: sounds like I'm just rain clouded this whole segment, But
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Speaker 3: the point that the Seahawks have got to on Friday
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Speaker 3: was man that last night. That game was unbelievable and
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Speaker 3: we celebrated it, but we're not done. The way to
17:47
Speaker 3: nature of this league is you knows is it's wow,
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Speaker 3: that was great? What's next? And I think this is
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Speaker 3: really beneficial to the Seahawks to have the weekend off.
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Speaker 3: There's a natural reset here to get over that game
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Speaker 3: and enjoy it. And now they have a natural reset
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Speaker 3: where they'll go life physically today and get going again
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Speaker 3: tomorrow and Wednesday toward the Panthers. But they would have
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Speaker 3: had a harder time both physically and mentally had this
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Speaker 3: been a normal five six days between games to go
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Speaker 3: to Carolina. They are really going to benefit from getting
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Speaker 3: it just decompressing this past weekend. And when I say
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Speaker 3: they were off, they were completely off. I mean it
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Speaker 3: was like gone fishing. Sign hung at the Seyorks headquarters.
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Speaker 3: Coaches were home with family, players were home. That is
18:34
Speaker 3: going to really help them by the end of this week.
18:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. It's going to be interesting to
18:40
Speaker 1: see how they respond. Obviously after such an emotional win
18:44
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and yet now you got the Panthers coming,
18:47
Speaker 1: and I mean you got to take them seriously. They're
18:50
Speaker 1: they're fighting for their division. And you know, this is
18:53
Speaker 1: a team that's been swept by the Saints this season,
18:55
Speaker 1: and yet just a couple of weeks ago beat the Rams,
18:58
Speaker 1: and so interesting to see the least how they're going
19:00
Speaker 1: to come out against a team that some people might
19:03
Speaker 1: think could be a trap gamer, a little bit of
19:05
Speaker 1: a letdown game after what they had. But I appreciate
19:08
Speaker 1: everything you did and we'll talk to you again tomorrow. Okay, Greg,
19:11
Speaker 1: all right, Happy week, Calculater, Thanks you all right. That's
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19:42
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Speaker 1: You pulled one out and it's made me on not
20:01
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I did get a little yawnie there. Anyways, everybody,
20:05
Speaker 1: welcome back into the program. We are, I don't know,
20:07
Speaker 1: not quite to the halfway point. Got through a lot
20:10
Speaker 1: of stuff so far, most of it centering around this Seahawks.
20:14
Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit of NFL stuff. We're gonna
20:16
Speaker 1: have more of that to come. We've got Sando coming
20:18
Speaker 1: up at eight o'clock and then coach Breedlove is stopping
20:21
Speaker 1: in for a visit. The first time we've ever had
20:24
Speaker 1: Love on. He has no idea what it even means yet,
20:27
Speaker 1: but he will. He will soon find out. We're gonna
20:29
Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into a bunch of different stuff. But
20:32
Speaker 1: right here I kind of wanted to jump off kind
20:35
Speaker 1: of where I left off with Greg talking about the Panthers.
20:38
Speaker 1: The Panthers another team led by a former first overall
20:41
Speaker 1: pick in Bryce Young. Now Bryce Young, I think probably
20:46
Speaker 1: of Kay Williams, is pretty short sample size, right, It's
20:49
Speaker 1: only in a second season. Lawrence has had moments where
20:53
Speaker 1: you can see physically why he does, why he was
20:56
Speaker 1: taken where he was taken, and yet for the most part,
21:00
Speaker 1: it has a hard time stringing games or even seasons
21:03
Speaker 1: together that make him look like he was legit. I
21:05
Speaker 1: think a lot of people already threw the bust word out.
21:08
Speaker 1: I think that's prematurely used by the way. I think
21:10
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people that say that too
21:12
Speaker 1: darn quick. Bryce Miller hasn't really done a whole heck
21:14
Speaker 1: of a lot, and yet now second year under Dave Knelisy,
21:19
Speaker 1: he's looking better. They're still eight and seven, but they're
21:24
Speaker 1: starting to get better when it matters most. They ended
21:27
Speaker 1: up having a significant win yesterday against Tampa Bay, both
21:31
Speaker 1: of them buying for that spot for the title down
21:35
Speaker 1: there in the NFC. I am curious your opinion of
21:40
Speaker 1: a team. This is a team, like I said last segment,
21:43
Speaker 1: they just beat the La Rams two weeks ago, and
21:47
Speaker 1: yet they in between that they had a game where
21:50
Speaker 1: they lost to the Saints for the second time, getting
21:53
Speaker 1: swept by the Saints, And I don't know for sure
21:55
Speaker 1: how you can feel about this team coming into it.
21:58
Speaker 1: I know that humans are here. Humans and athletes are that,
22:02
Speaker 1: and there is a tendency sometimes after a big game,
22:05
Speaker 1: an emotional win, where you you look at the opponent
22:08
Speaker 1: head and you're like, we, on paper, we should smoke
22:11
Speaker 1: these guys, and yet that's not the way that it works.
22:13
Speaker 1: It starts out zero zero. So any any fear of
22:16
Speaker 1: that in your opinion?
22:18
Speaker 2: Well, I think that the Seax have benefited this year
22:21
Speaker 2: by having a number of games where they kind of
22:23
Speaker 2: caught the the team at a favorable time. For example,
22:27
Speaker 2: you didn't have to play the Colts in October when
22:30
Speaker 2: they were just flying, you know, and ultimately, you know,
22:33
Speaker 2: spent more than half of the year up until just
22:36
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago as the highest scoring offense,
22:38
Speaker 2: and of course they had Daniel Jones healthy and they
22:40
Speaker 2: were feeling good. You didn't have to play the Vikings
22:43
Speaker 2: with a possibly resurgent JJ McCarthy. You didn't have to
22:49
Speaker 2: play the Falcons with Michael Pennix. Like they've caught some breaks.
22:53
Speaker 2: I think that this Sunday they're catching Carolina at a
23:00
Speaker 2: a relatively favorable time for Caroline. I think they're gonna
23:04
Speaker 2: feel really good about where they are. They've got the
23:09
Speaker 2: underdog juice of here comes the number one seeded Seattle Seahawks.
23:14
Speaker 2: They're trying to win a division. They think they can
23:17
Speaker 2: knock off Tampa Bay again in Week eighteen. They just did.
23:22
Speaker 2: They They're a young team that couldn't be feeling better
23:25
Speaker 2: about themselves with as you said, Canalison, year two, Tech McMillan,
23:31
Speaker 2: their number one receiver, first round draft pick, that was
23:36
Speaker 2: the number one. I believe he's the number one receiver
23:38
Speaker 2: taking in the draft. You know he's really coming on
23:41
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. You know he's getting protected better, there's a
23:45
Speaker 2: better feel for him. So I think that this is
23:49
Speaker 2: gonna be a challenge emotionally, that's gonna be a real
23:54
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of energy in that stadium
23:56
Speaker 2: trying to pull the Carolina over the finish line on this.
23:59
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's gonna be tough. I think
24:01
Speaker 2: it's tough. I think I think it is. Greg made
24:04
Speaker 2: this point. I agree with it. I think Seattle benefits
24:07
Speaker 2: because you play the Rams. You know you you you
24:11
Speaker 2: gave everything. You emptied everything that was an overtime game,
24:16
Speaker 2: emostly physically, you emptied everything, and I think you need
24:22
Speaker 2: those three or four extra days to be able to
24:25
Speaker 2: to uh gear up for what is in store for
24:28
Speaker 2: you at Carolina, because psychologically it's just hard to duplicate
24:31
Speaker 2: that in another week. Also knowing that you're playing the
24:34
Speaker 2: forty nine ers the following week. So yeah, it's gonna
24:37
Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's gonna test terminal.
24:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, test. That's where you know good coaching comes in.
24:43
Speaker 1: It's not uh, you know, we're gonna talk about it
24:45
Speaker 1: in the Coach Breedlove segment in more depth, but the
24:49
Speaker 1: idea of NFL coaches and all of the undertaking, all
24:53
Speaker 1: of that goes into it, the schematics, but really it's
24:56
Speaker 1: such a big roster and trying to get everybody rolling
24:59
Speaker 1: in the same direction, and you can't have anybody, especially
25:01
Speaker 1: not your big playmakers the nucleus of your team overlooking
25:05
Speaker 1: an opponent. And yet, yeah, you're sandwich this this Carolina
25:09
Speaker 1: game and you're playing an eight and seven Carolina team.
25:12
Speaker 1: You look at them and you start watching film. I
25:15
Speaker 1: think that the film on Carolina, they can look like
25:18
Speaker 1: a team that's led by a former number one pick,
25:21
Speaker 1: and you better watch out because they can go out
25:23
Speaker 1: there and move the ball on you. They have some
25:25
Speaker 1: defensive playmakers, but then you watch some other film on
25:29
Speaker 1: them where they, like I said, they get swept by
25:31
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. They they're very they're they're not
25:35
Speaker 1: very consistent. And yet so if you if you let
25:37
Speaker 1: that sink into your head while you're prepping for this team,
25:40
Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, you're still kind of riding
25:43
Speaker 1: the high or you're still feeling your oats a little
25:45
Speaker 1: bit about what you did against LA and you're looking
25:48
Speaker 1: forward to the game against the Niners, which is gonna
25:52
Speaker 1: have a lot riding on the table there, whether they
25:54
Speaker 1: win tonight against India or not. It's just one of
25:58
Speaker 1: those things where it's to make man, was like, there's
26:01
Speaker 1: there's a recipe where this could work out not in
26:03
Speaker 1: your favor. And then all of a sudden, to some degree,
26:05
Speaker 1: it's a letdown considering what you did, how big the
26:08
Speaker 1: game was on Thursday. You end up, you know, kicking
26:11
Speaker 1: one here to some degree against Carolina Panthers, and you're
26:15
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be feeling like, man, we really let
26:17
Speaker 1: something get away.
26:18
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, and then and then if you
26:21
Speaker 2: have a letdown of uh in against the Niners. Yeah,
26:25
Speaker 2: I mean you could really see things unraveling.
26:29
Speaker 3: Now.
26:29
Speaker 2: I'm not predicting that. I think the see the Seahawks
26:32
Speaker 2: are you know, deserving to be just called, you know,
26:36
Speaker 2: the top two or three teams, maybe even number one
26:39
Speaker 2: team in the NFL. I'm buying all of that. I'm
26:41
Speaker 2: not I'm not disparaging. That's remarkable what they've accomplished, and
26:45
Speaker 2: it was a remarkable win Thursday. But it's it's I
26:49
Speaker 2: think we all have watched sports enough. You're you're an athlete,
26:53
Speaker 2: you know the letdown from having played the Rams and
26:57
Speaker 2: now and so you can't it's almost impossible to match
27:03
Speaker 2: that that emotionally against the Panthers. And yet where are
27:07
Speaker 2: the Panthers, right you just described it. They they they're
27:11
Speaker 2: on the uptick emotionally. The Seahawks are on the down
27:14
Speaker 2: tick emotionally, and so that means they have to be,
27:17
Speaker 2: you know, all that much better. But they gotta they
27:19
Speaker 2: got to combat it, and and and the leadership has
27:22
Speaker 2: to challenge everybody to to put that aside. I mean,
27:26
Speaker 2: you know, you don't. You don't want to wait till
27:29
Speaker 2: you lose what you had to find out how much
27:33
Speaker 2: it means to you, oh and that that's that that
27:36
Speaker 2: applies in a lot of things in life obviously, but
27:38
Speaker 2: but you know, here they are the number one seed
27:40
Speaker 2: that can you imagine that that flight home is like
27:44
Speaker 2: we kicked all that opportunity because we didn't we didn't
27:49
Speaker 2: mentally prepare for Carolina and give them their their due respect.
27:53
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's gonna be a challenge.
27:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. And well, well we'll dive into
27:57
Speaker 1: a little bit more into the Panthers as the show
27:59
Speaker 1: goes on. But on the other side, I wanted to die.
28:01
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into you know, I want to
28:03
Speaker 1: talk to Hugh a little bit about a job opening
28:06
Speaker 1: that is still out there and how that might affect
28:08
Speaker 1: all of us around here. Sports stick around here at
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Speaker 1: way home. They give me goosebumps. I don't know how
28:20
Speaker 1: much you listen to our show, but that is the goosebump.
28:24
Speaker 1: I don't know. Factor is something that we talk about
28:26
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. It's big games or just moments
28:30
Speaker 1: on the show. They give me goosebumps. That is one
28:32
Speaker 1: of them right there. That's it's some serious. That was
28:34
Speaker 1: a good one right there. Third day, Okay, Spotify, I
28:37
Speaker 1: know what I'll be listening to on the way home.
28:39
Speaker 1: Good stuff right there. I wish we could just sit
28:41
Speaker 1: and listen to it the whole time, but we do
28:43
Speaker 1: have some stuff to get into and we don't have
28:44
Speaker 1: a whole ton of time. We only got about five minutes.
28:46
Speaker 1: And yet I think you're the perfect guy to ask
28:48
Speaker 1: your connection there. Over the weekend, Kenny Dillingham, the Arizona
28:51
Speaker 1: state head coach, signs a five year extension seven and
28:55
Speaker 1: a half million a year to stay there. Now he's
28:57
Speaker 1: begging some alum to write him a check for twenty
28:59
Speaker 1: million dollars. See how that works out. Kaylin de Boor,
29:02
Speaker 1: I think there was already conversation last week, and we
29:06
Speaker 1: discussed it in our first segment that Kaylin de Boor Alabama,
29:10
Speaker 1: that whole thing them winning. I would think kind of
29:14
Speaker 1: cools the conversation of whether or not he would be
29:16
Speaker 1: interested in going or is still in the running for it.
29:19
Speaker 1: He's kind of made it sound like he's not interested.
29:22
Speaker 1: Then again, you don't know for sure what that means,
29:24
Speaker 1: because coach speak is coach. Jedfish has done his best
29:28
Speaker 1: to say I'm focused on here, I like what I've
29:32
Speaker 1: built here, or whatever, but he hasn't came out flat
29:34
Speaker 1: out and said I'm not going anywhere, And so where
29:38
Speaker 1: is how much is your radar going off with all
29:42
Speaker 1: of the extenuated circumstances and the fact that Michigan a
29:44
Speaker 1: place where he has been connected to before, he's been
29:47
Speaker 1: there before, how much is your radar going off about
29:50
Speaker 1: possibly Jedfish being interested in that?
29:53
Speaker 2: Well, I have no doubt that he's interested. Jedfish is interested.
29:58
Speaker 2: I think there's some issues with Jaden Delore and some
30:01
Speaker 2: of the issues at Arizona that may prevent Michigan uh
30:06
Speaker 2: from having enough interest that ultimately he would get the job.
30:10
Speaker 2: But there is a report. When you consider the credibility
30:15
Speaker 2: I think it is. It creates for news here. It's
30:18
Speaker 2: newsworthy for University of Washington fans, in my opinion, And
30:21
Speaker 2: I have and and these are the sources. You have
30:24
Speaker 2: to know. A guy named uh Ben Dagra d O
30:28
Speaker 2: g r A. He was what's termed a co head
30:32
Speaker 2: of the Creative Art Agency with Tom Condon. And if
30:36
Speaker 2: you're an NFL fan, you probably heard of Tom Condon.
30:39
Speaker 2: He represents Peyton. He represented Peyton Manning, Eli Mannings, Drew Brees,
30:44
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Alex Smith, Sam Brad Like. At
30:49
Speaker 2: one point he was the highest guy guy. So they
30:52
Speaker 2: they went in in ten together. Then uh and he
30:58
Speaker 2: Dogra had our three, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Couilliams, Mario Williams,
31:02
Speaker 2: a lot of people. You've heard. They brought in a
31:05
Speaker 2: guy named Jimmy Sexton. If you're a college football net fan,
31:09
Speaker 2: you know who Jimmy Sexton is. He has seven of
31:11
Speaker 2: the top ten coaches. And so there was a point
31:15
Speaker 2: where a portion of the fee that Jimmy Sexton was
31:19
Speaker 2: getting was actually going to Ben Dagra. I mean, that's
31:24
Speaker 2: the relationship. And Jimmy Sexton has Nick Saban, Kaylyn de Borg,
31:28
Speaker 2: Steve starkejan Lanekiff, and James Franklin, Kirby Smart all right,
31:32
Speaker 2: So so that that would be some of the credentials
31:35
Speaker 2: that might lend to credibility. As something spoken from Ben Dagra.
31:40
Speaker 2: This is from Newsweek magazine. Now Newsweek obviously has been
31:45
Speaker 2: around a long time. You make your own assessments about
31:47
Speaker 2: their credibility.
31:48
Speaker 1: You know.
31:48
Speaker 2: This is the online version. This is what Ben Dagger
31:53
Speaker 2: was willing to go on record to say to Newsweek
31:57
Speaker 2: about Jed Fish. He said, he said, I think the
32:02
Speaker 2: guy that that they Michigan will hire is Jetfish. Excuse me,
32:08
Speaker 2: and I'm just guessing. I don't know is j Jetfish
32:11
Speaker 2: from Washington quote. I know for a fact that he's
32:16
Speaker 2: been looking for another job. He wanted the floor Ada
32:19
Speaker 2: job and did and did not get it. And he's
32:25
Speaker 2: very very very interested in the Michigan job. End quote.
32:30
Speaker 2: That's three varies. So I think that that is a
32:36
Speaker 2: news story. Well, I don't say a news story, but
32:37
Speaker 2: it is a story if given again the credentials of
32:44
Speaker 2: the man who said it. So I don't have any
32:48
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind that Jetfish wants the Michigan job,
32:53
Speaker 2: and if he was offered it, I think he would
32:55
Speaker 2: take it. And so you know where does that leave Washingtonton.
33:01
Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see does Michigan offer him the job.
33:05
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point, I don't know how far
33:07
Speaker 2: down the list you go. USC went four down to
33:10
Speaker 2: get Pete Carroll. He was a fourth choice. So at
33:14
Speaker 2: some point they might say Jeff Fish, huh right, yeah,
33:19
Speaker 2: and so that an event. What's your reaction to that,
33:23
Speaker 2: if you if you if you heard that about Dan Lanning,
33:28
Speaker 2: that that guy who was who has had business ties
33:32
Speaker 2: with Jimmy Sexton, who is unquestionably the main power broker
33:37
Speaker 2: of college coaches, and nobody can dispute that fact that
33:43
Speaker 2: he would be willing to go on the record and
33:45
Speaker 2: say Dan Lanning is very, very very interested in the
33:49
Speaker 2: Michigan job. And then you know, look, you're not going
33:53
Speaker 2: to parse every word and hold people to every word.
33:56
Speaker 2: But he says, I know for a fact that he
34:00
Speaker 2: Fish is looking for another job.
34:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you. I mean, yeah, there's people
34:07
Speaker 1: that stir stuff up, and it's unfortunate if you're a
34:10
Speaker 1: coach that genuinely is like, I don't want to go anywhere,
34:12
Speaker 1: and yet you're just your name is added to the
34:14
Speaker 1: list because of your resume and because of where you've
34:17
Speaker 1: been and all of that stuff. It's unfortunate, and yet
34:21
Speaker 1: it's kind of part of the job. So you're going
34:23
Speaker 1: to just have to deal with it. The fact that
34:25
Speaker 1: the cost to you, I don't well, the sniff test
34:29
Speaker 1: to me, when everything I've heard Jedfish say has been
34:34
Speaker 1: without a doubt stopping short of the line of I'm
34:37
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. I mean, Dan Lanning has came out
34:41
Speaker 1: and said, I don't want to go anywhere. I flat
34:44
Speaker 1: out used to have, in my opinion, a kind of
34:48
Speaker 1: set of steps that I wanted to go to. I
34:50
Speaker 1: want to be a head coach, and then I wanted
34:51
Speaker 1: to go to the NFL, and I wanted all this
34:53
Speaker 1: different stuff. He basically just came out and said, Now,
34:55
Speaker 1: that's not to say that I don't take that as
34:57
Speaker 1: gospel written in stone, but it's more it's it's more
35:02
Speaker 1: of a stern answer. I think that a lot of
35:04
Speaker 1: people look to see if the grass is greener on
35:06
Speaker 1: the other side of the fence, and the grass.
35:08
Speaker 2: Is really dear and green here in Eugene. He said,
35:10
Speaker 2: grass is really green in Eugene.
35:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's not sane. There is nothing ever that
35:15
Speaker 1: would take me from here. Well, so i'd even think
35:18
Speaker 1: you can say that, but it's close. It's much closer
35:20
Speaker 1: than I'm happy with what we got going on here.
35:22
Speaker 1: I've put a lot of time and money into things
35:25
Speaker 1: and tried to bring this program up, and yet he's
35:28
Speaker 1: always stopped short of I'm not going anywhere, And understandably so,
35:32
Speaker 1: because I don't think. I think that's when you get
35:34
Speaker 1: in troubles when you tell your fan base I have
35:37
Speaker 1: nowhere that I want to go, and then a week later,
35:40
Speaker 1: or two weeks later or two hours later, you jump ship.
35:42
Speaker 1: Now you've you just lied right to everybody's face. You
35:45
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. I think the proper way
35:47
Speaker 1: to do it is to give kind of short ended
35:50
Speaker 1: questions that don't necessarily have a firm, definitive stopping point.
35:55
Speaker 2: My summary, Ashley would be, you know, first of all,
35:59
Speaker 2: Dan Lamb, I mean, has made a stronger commedy. He goes,
36:02
Speaker 2: he was on a national radio and he said, what's
36:04
Speaker 2: the chance you're going to take the job?
36:05
Speaker 1: He goes zero.
36:07
Speaker 2: All right, so he Landing has been willing to make
36:10
Speaker 2: those kind of pronouncements. But I guess what, None of
36:13
Speaker 2: what he has said is binding whatsoever in any arena,
36:17
Speaker 2: not an illegal arena, not contract, nothing, and so he
36:20
Speaker 2: can say whatever he wants if he wants to take
36:22
Speaker 2: another job. He said, well, you know that's what I was.
36:24
Speaker 2: That's what I thought then when I said it, and
36:26
Speaker 2: it's enough of that. And then he's on, you know
36:28
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, you know, hey, that's what I thought then
36:30
Speaker 2: and now I'm the head coach at LSU. Jetfish is basically,
36:34
Speaker 2: if he summarize, says, hey, I really like Washington. I
36:38
Speaker 2: think we've got a bright future. That's it. But but
36:42
Speaker 2: the idea that that, you know, here's a guy that
36:46
Speaker 2: ostensibly is connected and he's and he's saying that, here's
36:51
Speaker 2: a guy that Fish is very, very very interested in
36:55
Speaker 2: the Michigan job. That's a story for Washington fans.
36:58
Speaker 1: It's a story for Washington fans. I mean that quote
37:00
Speaker 1: and the one right before it. I know for a
37:02
Speaker 1: fact he's been looking for another job. I mean to
37:04
Speaker 1: come on record and say that is that's not something
37:07
Speaker 1: that people here in Seattle should can just overlook. Yeah,
37:11
Speaker 1: so all right, we got to get to a break here.
37:13
Speaker 1: We got Mike Sando on the other side of this,
37:14
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