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3/17/26 -- Dan Ball W/ Rep. Jim Jordan, Robert Spencer, Wynton Hall, Gabe Poirot, Brooke Goldstein. · Real America with Dan Ball

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Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America Tonight. From phony AI images
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Speaker 1: of burning US warships to autonomous drone swarms choosing their
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Speaker 1: own targets, the line between digital AI deception and battlefield
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Speaker 1: reality is disappearing, and the race to rule the world
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Speaker 1: of AI is on. Also tonight, Vice President Jadvan's taken
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Speaker 1: the helm of a massive new federal crackdown to purge
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Speaker 1: billions upon billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse
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Speaker 1: targeting the nation's social safety net. Oh yeah, the new
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Speaker 1: frauds are is in town and from Soros linked seed
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Speaker 1: money to allegations of Iranian propaganda. The White House is
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Speaker 1: firing back at anti Semitic digital news outlet Drop Site,
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Speaker 1: claiming it's using flat out lies and false reporting to
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Speaker 1: sabotage Operation Epic Fury. Also later on the show Tonight,
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Speaker 1: a Real America exclusive, a young man will share his
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Speaker 1: testimony that Heaven is real. Oh yeah, I'm damn and
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Speaker 1: Real America starts right now. Here's what the judge says.
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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls told the media that the Minnesota Department
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Speaker 2: of Education attempted in payments to fof because of possible fraud,
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Speaker 2: but that judge gush. Guthman ordered payments to continue in
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Speaker 2: April twenty twenty one. Next sentence that is false.
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Speaker 1: Fraud, fraud, fraud. Earlier this month, the House Oversight Committee
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Speaker 1: released a scathing report accusing Minnesota's Governor good old Timmy
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Speaker 1: Walls and their AG Keith Ellison, of a massive fraud
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Speaker 1: cover up. Thank you, Nick Shirley. The committee claims state
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Speaker 1: leaders knew of the rampant fraud as early as twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: maybe even before, but lied to the public. The report
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Speaker 1: details three hundred million bucks in lost federal child nutrition funds,
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Speaker 1: remember that a bunch of it went overseas. Also nine
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Speaker 1: billion in medicaid investigatory. Walls had the authority to stop
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Speaker 1: the payments for the Feeding Our Future program, but kept
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Speaker 1: the money flowing anyway, of course he did. The report
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Speaker 1: also alleges the administration ignored red flags and falsely claimed
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Speaker 1: the FBI told them to continue their payments, a claim
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Speaker 1: the committee says is false. President Trump signed an EO
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Speaker 1: just yesterday now creating the Task Force to Eliminate Fraud.
2:23
Speaker 1: This new force is going to be chaired by our
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Speaker 1: VP JEDI Vance aims to coordinate a national strategy targeting
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Speaker 1: waste and abuse. Programs ranging from food assistance, housing, homeless
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Speaker 1: medicare probably some leering centers. The administration is specifically pointing
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Speaker 1: to billions and billions in states like Minnesota, California where
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Speaker 1: I live, Colorado, Illinois, New York, citing insufficient safeguards. By
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Speaker 1: the way, what all those states have in common? Demon rats.
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Speaker 1: New measures will include stricter identity verification, increased data sharing
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Speaker 1: between state and feds. The Task Force expect deliver its
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Speaker 1: first set of minimum anti fraud requirements within sixty days.
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Speaker 1: Joining us now to discuss all this and more. It's
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Speaker 1: been a while since we've seen him. He's the chairman
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Speaker 1: of the House Judiciary Committee and mapal and a fellow
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Speaker 1: Buckeye Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan back on the program. Jim,
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Speaker 1: it's nice to see you, sir. How you've been to
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Speaker 1: be with you?
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Speaker 3: Dam thank you. I'm doing fine.
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Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk first about the fraud czar and
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Speaker 1: all this fraud. Earlier today, our friend Nick Shirley just
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Speaker 1: dropped a forty some minute expose where he was hanging
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Speaker 1: with my Fred Chad Bianco, and Amy Reiker down here
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Speaker 1: in San Diego. In La, exposing millions in fraud in California. Jim,
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Speaker 1: this is running ramp and across the dang country.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and thank goodness that President Trump has dosidate the
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Speaker 4: vice president to be the guy who's going to kind
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Speaker 4: of oversee this whole effort to dig into this fraud
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Speaker 4: and hopefully stop it. And also in conjunction with that,
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Speaker 4: the Department of Justice has established a position Assistant Attorney
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Speaker 4: General to deal with fraud. Colin McDonald met with him
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Speaker 4: a few weeks ago. He's now the guy who's in
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Speaker 4: charge of that position or taking over that key position.
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Speaker 4: So this is the kind of effort where you hopefully
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Speaker 4: will put in place, and this is some things we
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Speaker 4: can do in the legislature too. You put in place
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Speaker 4: some things on the front end, some checks and some
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Speaker 4: balances before the money goes out the door, and then
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Speaker 4: you have some audits and expections on the back end
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Speaker 4: as well, so you stop this kind of ridiculous fraud
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Speaker 4: from happening like we saw in Minneapolis and Minnesota and
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Speaker 4: now looks like is happening in other states around the
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Speaker 4: country as well.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a new study out from the Policy
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Speaker 1: Studies for Center for immigration that says over sixty percent
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Speaker 1: of all illegal alien households use taxpayer funded welfare. We
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Speaker 1: know in Minnesota alone, billions was going to welfare programs
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Speaker 1: and other things, and they sent millions of it overseas.
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Speaker 1: Like the President was talking about, there's got to be
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Speaker 1: some pretty easy safeguards that the Feds can do to
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Speaker 1: make sure these blue states and cities aren't doing this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to have the safeguards in place, because
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Speaker 4: I think the fundamental question, and this is what I've
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Speaker 4: did to try to do in the hearing, is why
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Speaker 4: why would you let this happen? And of course we
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Speaker 4: know the answer because one of the people who was
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Speaker 4: a fraud investigator in the Attorney General's office they're in Minnesota,
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Speaker 4: who was also Somali American, said the reason they allowed
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Speaker 4: it to take place was they were concerned about this
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Speaker 4: critical voting block, the Somali American voting block there in
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Speaker 4: Minneapolis and that and this again was a Somali American
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Speaker 4: who was saying this. So remember, ninety eight people been
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Speaker 4: indicted up there in Minnesota, eighty five of them are
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Speaker 4: Somali Americans, and this is what was going on, and
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Speaker 4: they were a key voting block for Democrats, so much
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Speaker 4: so that Governor Walls lied about the reason for restarting
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Speaker 4: this program, rescinding building the payments continue to flow, or
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Speaker 4: restart the payments. He lied about it and said the
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Speaker 4: court told him to do it, made him do it.
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Speaker 4: That was not the case, because the court did something
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Speaker 4: I've never seen Dan. They issued a press statement the
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Speaker 4: court itself and said what the governor is saying is false.
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Speaker 4: He's I'm not telling you the truth about why this
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Speaker 4: program was allowed to restart, and the reason was allowed
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Speaker 4: to restart, pure and simple politics.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope some butts end up in jail, but
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Speaker 1: we know how DC operates. Jim, I know you're doing
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Speaker 1: your hardest. Speaking of things that need to reopen. We're
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Speaker 1: now thirty some days into this shutdown. We might beat
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Speaker 1: the record the forty three days that we had last fall.
6:23
Speaker 1: Airports put the headline up. They're saying that airports might
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Speaker 1: even shut down. Forget the four hour lines. Now with TSA,
6:29
Speaker 1: they're talking about major airports having to shut down in
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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks if the damn Democrats don't
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Speaker 1: get this government reopened. Here's a quick SoundBite. I want
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Speaker 1: to get your reaction. This is a TUSA union leader
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Speaker 1: this week about what three hundred guys and gals walking
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Speaker 1: off the job and why they want to reopen. We
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Speaker 1: want to do our job, but they're preventing us from more.
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Speaker 1: Do your job.
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Speaker 4: Well, people have to make a determination whether it stay
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Speaker 4: home with their children, take care of their children, or
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Speaker 4: they have no gas.
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Speaker 1: We want to do our job.
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Speaker 4: Jim your reaction, Well, you would think that the Democrats
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Speaker 4: would not be as crazy as they are. But I've
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Speaker 4: said many times just about every position the left, which
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Speaker 4: now controls the Democrat Party, just about every position they take,
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Speaker 4: is just crazy. I mean, it's crazy to defund the police.
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Speaker 4: It's crazy to abolish ice. It's crazy to say Menshi
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Speaker 4: compete against women in sport. It's crazy to do all
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Speaker 4: the you know, the open border policy they had under Biden.
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Speaker 4: And it's crazy to shut down the government forty three
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Speaker 4: days last fall and now thirty some days here this
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Speaker 4: winter and spring, likely to go into but.
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Speaker 1: That's that's today's left.
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Speaker 4: Every it's crazy to embrace this sanctuary city policy, so
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Speaker 4: on and on it goes. Hopefully what happens is enough
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Speaker 4: of their constituents will call up Democrats senators and say
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Speaker 4: you got to open up the government, you got to
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Speaker 4: fund DHS so we can get paid and.
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Speaker 3: We can do the job that we are required to do.
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Speaker 4: Over that, you know, the law requires us to have
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Speaker 4: TSAA the job that we're supposed to do for goodness sake.
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Speaker 4: But we'll see if the Democrats see the light and
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Speaker 4: do the right thing. I'm not holding my breath.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. I know you're out of time, but
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Speaker 1: I got one more question for you, real quick. President
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Speaker 1: Trump has been putting this out for weeks and weeks,
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Speaker 1: if not months, that he wants the Save America Act passed. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and the Senate has been deadlock, not wanting even to
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Speaker 1: bring it to a vote. Well, they had a test
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Speaker 1: vote earlier today and it appears what was it, fifty
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Speaker 1: one forty eight? Again, not enough to pass it, right,
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Speaker 1: because we've got to get sixty unless they do the
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Speaker 1: talking or just nuke the filibuster altogether. One of your
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Speaker 1: thoughts on the latest vote and where the Save America
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Speaker 1: Act stands. I firmly believe if we don't get it, Jim,
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Speaker 1: we're not going to have free, fair and legal federal elections.
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Speaker 4: This is another example of the left being crazy. I mean,
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Speaker 4: of course we're for voter idy. Of course we're only
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Speaker 4: for citizens voting. That's a ninety some percent issue across
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Speaker 4: the country. And it's only the radical left who are
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Speaker 4: opposed to that. But they have control the Democrat Party,
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Speaker 4: and so you can't get the seven, eight, nine, ten
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Speaker 4: senators Democrat senators to vote with the fifty sum Republicans
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Speaker 4: who actually support this. You just can't get it. So
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Speaker 4: they're they're going to look at this talking filibuster. God
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Speaker 4: bless them.
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Speaker 1: Let's hope it.
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Speaker 4: Let's hope it's successful. But it's just one more example
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Speaker 4: of the of the left being the left. I always say,
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Speaker 4: you know, I think this, this upcoming midterm election is
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Speaker 4: really going to boil down to this, this sort of
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Speaker 4: fundamental statement.
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Speaker 3: They're crazy, We're not.
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Speaker 4: There were all kinds of crazy things were for common sense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was tould prevail. Yes, come on borders, two genders,
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Speaker 1: no boys and girls sports, you know, I mean, vet
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Speaker 1: people before you let them in, no DEI and hiring
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Speaker 1: merit based Yes, common sense as always. Jim Jordan, thank
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Speaker 1: you for coming on the program. Appreciate you. You bet Dan,
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Speaker 1: thank you all right, speaking of fraud, independent journalist Nick Shirley,
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Speaker 1: who helped expose the billions in fraud in Minnesota, has
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Speaker 1: now turned his sights on California. As I told Jimmy
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Speaker 1: dropped a new video earlier today showing how fraud in
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Speaker 1: the nat SO Golden State spans over daycare and leering centers,
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Speaker 1: money for the home homeless, even hospice. So tomorrow night,
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Speaker 1: we're going to feature two folks who've been in Nick's investigations.
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Speaker 1: Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianca will be here along with
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Speaker 1: former Republican candidate for San Diego County Board of Soups
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Speaker 1: Amy Reikhardt. Those two will help me break down what
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Speaker 1: Nick uncovered in California. Again, that's tomorrow. You gotta tune in,
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Speaker 1: all right, Still to come tonight on Real America as
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Speaker 1: the strikes in a ran wage on the real threat
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Speaker 1: of more lone wolf and sleeper sell attacks by Muslims
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Speaker 5: But right now, they've been decimated from every standpoint. And again,
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Speaker 5: we've had great support from countries in the Middle East,
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Speaker 5: great support, but we've had no support from essentially no
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Speaker 5: support from NATO.
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Speaker 1: Not good speaking. Just hours ago in the Oval, President
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Speaker 1: Trump addressing what he calls the beginning of the end
13:15
Speaker 1: for the just seventeen day old conflict with Iran. The
13:19
Speaker 1: President claims they ran in military has been quote decimated,
13:22
Speaker 1: setting a ninety percent reduction in all their ballistic missile
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Speaker 1: capabilities following the obliteration of key sites on the garg Island.
13:29
Speaker 1: This comes as the US and Israel continue their relentless
13:32
Speaker 1: air campaign, striking more than seven thousand targets. Despite the
13:37
Speaker 1: President's optimism for a very near exit. The global economy
13:41
Speaker 1: remains on edge. The Strait of Hormuz is effectively pretty
13:44
Speaker 1: much paralyzed right now, sending crude oil prices up to
13:46
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks a barrel. The mission to reopen those
13:48
Speaker 1: shipping lanes has hit now a diplomatic wall. You heard
13:51
Speaker 1: Trump's frustration with NATO. Hey you use that oil, come help,
13:56
Speaker 1: The commander in chief accusing our allies of offering no support.
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Speaker 1: Followed a series of rebuffs from the European Union, especially
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Speaker 1: the UK, who have bulked at the idea at sending
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Speaker 1: some of their warships into the hot zone to help
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Speaker 1: us out. And by the way, he just wants them
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Speaker 1: to go in to sweep for minds and to help
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Speaker 1: commercial civilian vessels get the oil out, not get into
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Speaker 1: combat with Iran. Yes, is there a chance, sure, but
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Speaker 1: that's what you have. These are military folks that would
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Speaker 1: be asking you to send. And by the way, didn't
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Speaker 1: you need our help seven or eighty years ago? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you did. AnyWho, This, of course, is
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Speaker 1: in the wake of overnight is really airstrike in Tehran.
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Speaker 1: Israeli defense forces confirmed the strike killed the secretary of
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Speaker 1: Rand's Supreme National Security Council. Leader there he is Ali Larajani.
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Speaker 1: Since the death of the Ayatola earlier this month, this
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Speaker 1: clown has emerged as the regime's effective leader. I guess
14:50
Speaker 1: because I don't know what's happening with the sun. People
14:52
Speaker 1: think he's dead or whatever. But this clown supposedly was
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Speaker 1: heading up both military strategy and their political ISLAMI regime
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Speaker 1: joining me now to weigh in on all this. He's
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Speaker 1: the director of Jihad Watch, which you should be watching
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Speaker 1: out for that we just had two attacks on the
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Speaker 1: homeland last week. And he's the author of the book
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Speaker 1: Holy Hell, Islam's Abuse of Women and the Infidels who
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Speaker 1: enable it. Robert Spencer back on the program, mister Spencer,
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Speaker 1: how are you, sir? Just great?
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Speaker 6: Dan always get to talk to you.
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Speaker 1: So look, I've been raising the alarm bells here for
15:27
Speaker 1: years about and I quit using the R word. I
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Speaker 1: don't say radical Islam because even the moderate ones and
15:34
Speaker 1: the peaceful ones are just one minute away from getting
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Speaker 1: triggered to kill the infidels because their book tells them
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Speaker 1: to lie and to kill the infidels. And I'm an
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Speaker 1: infidel because I'm a Christian and I don't believe in
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Speaker 1: what they're spewing. So my question is in your jihad watch,
15:52
Speaker 1: because that's what you head up. Should we be more
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Speaker 1: worried now because of the strikes and ran for more
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Speaker 1: home grown terror or sleeper sales or lone wolves popping
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Speaker 1: up here in America?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Dan, because look, in the first place, we're at
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Speaker 6: a tremendous disadvantage because nobody has been paying attention to
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Speaker 6: this threat. As a matter of fact, even to this day,
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Speaker 6: the US government does not acknowledge that there is such
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Speaker 6: a thing as Islamic jihad. The president has talked about it,
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Speaker 6: but Barack Obama when he was president in twenty eleven,
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Speaker 6: removed all mention of Islam from counter terror training.
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Speaker 1: I remember that raised. I mean, some people on the
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Speaker 1: right raised a big fuss over that and said, whoa,
16:34
Speaker 1: who whoa is that because you're a Muslim And I
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Speaker 1: think he declared that he was a Christian allegedly, But
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Speaker 1: why would you pull down verbiage?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Well, he wanted to clearly he wanted
16:45
Speaker 6: to cozy up to the Islamic Republic of Iran and
16:48
Speaker 6: other countries. He wanted to play kate and pease little
16:52
Speaker 6: growing with some population in the United States, and so
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Speaker 6: he hamstrung. Now it's fifteen years hamstrung counter terror apparatus
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Speaker 6: because they can't study the motives of the enemy. And
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Speaker 6: that is just a recipe for failure. As we know,
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Speaker 6: the oldest statage in warfare is know your enemy. And
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Speaker 6: we are prevented from doing that. And so these guys
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Speaker 6: are coming in and establishing Sharia enclaves, and the people
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Speaker 6: who are dealing with them in law enforcement and intelligence
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Speaker 6: have no idea what they're dealing with or the implications
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Speaker 6: of it. And they have Most American politicians and public
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Speaker 6: officials have no idea that Islam is more than a
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Speaker 6: religion but is also political.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: It's not just political.
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Speaker 1: Being, it's a political ideology and cult in my opinion, Robert,
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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what last week's attack on the
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Speaker 1: synagogue in Michigan and then the old Dominion school prove it,
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Speaker 1: and let me go to Michigan and say something you
17:47
Speaker 1: heard from that sheriff, say, we just went through some
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Speaker 1: training in the last couple of weeks to warn folks
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Speaker 1: there might be some attacks. Because you got dearborn fifteen
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes away from where that attack happened. Right well,
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Speaker 1: for the last how many years since Obama, Americans were
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Speaker 1: told if you said anything about Islam or Muslims, you
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Speaker 1: were islama phobic. And so it's scared good conservative Christians
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Speaker 1: and American Christians and Jews kind of to the sideline, like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I can never say anything bad or
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Speaker 1: they'll call me islama phobic. I'm sorry. It doesn't belong.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't go in this republic. It doesn't go with
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Speaker 1: our Judeo Christian beliefs. Their Sharia laws are anti everything
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Speaker 1: we stand for, and they're inhumane as well. And I
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Speaker 1: can't believe there's Americans out there. There's Catholics out there.
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Speaker 1: I won't throw her name out there on my show,
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Speaker 1: but there's idiots out there. Robert literally trying to say,
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Speaker 1: Catholics unite with Islam and Muslims against these Zionist Christians.
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Speaker 1: Are you stupid? Muslims won us all dead? Maybe not
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Speaker 1: all of them, but the leaders of Iran sure as
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Speaker 1: hell do. That's why they've been saying death to America
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Speaker 1: for forty seven years. Yep.
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Speaker 6: And look, I couldn't agree more. It's not just Catholics,
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Speaker 6: but I see it. It's a concerted propaganda f for it.
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Speaker 6: And I see it among Catholic Christians, Protestant Christians, Orthodox
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Speaker 6: Christians that they say, the real problem is the Jews,
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Speaker 6: and we have to unite with the Muslims to deal
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Speaker 6: with the Zionist threat. In the first place, there is
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Speaker 6: no Zionist threat, and in the second place, there is
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Speaker 6: actually a religion that is, as I said a minute ago,
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Speaker 6: violent supremacist, aggressive, and expansionists, and that is not Judaism
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Speaker 6: but Islam.
19:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know, real quick, Robert, because I want people
19:30
Speaker 1: to sorry interrupt you, but I want people to see
19:32
Speaker 1: this before I eleuseis. I know you got to run,
19:34
Speaker 1: and I'm almost out of time. Put the headline up.
19:36
Speaker 1: I think David Harris Junior might have posted this, my
19:38
Speaker 1: friend or somebody about all the mosques that have popped
19:41
Speaker 1: up in America just in the last decade or two.
19:43
Speaker 1: Look at these numbers, folks. This is scary. So a
19:46
Speaker 1: lot of our Christian churches and some Jewish synagogues closed
19:50
Speaker 1: down during COVID especially, and they were out snatching up
19:53
Speaker 1: these down in Florida, New York, California, Texas, look at
19:56
Speaker 1: these numbers. Five seventy in New York City, ninety nine
20:00
Speaker 1: mosques in Texas, four hundred and eighty one in Commifornia,
20:04
Speaker 1: two fifty in Florida. And the list goes on and on.
20:07
Speaker 1: And there are clerics, they're amans, they call them. These
20:10
Speaker 1: amans are inside these mosques. Folks, right now, this week,
20:14
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, saying death to America, telling people
20:17
Speaker 1: Islam will be in every American household, whether you like
20:20
Speaker 1: it or not, and kill the infidels. They're not saying
20:22
Speaker 1: it in Iran anymore. They're saying it here on the homeland. Robert,
20:26
Speaker 1: final word to you, with a few seconds left.
20:29
Speaker 6: Well, most of those mosques who were established it in
20:32
Speaker 6: just the last few years, right, most Muslims in the
20:34
Speaker 6: United States have come here since nine to eleven. This
20:38
Speaker 6: is a colonialist project. The left is all worried about colonialism,
20:42
Speaker 6: except when it's the United States that's being colonized. This
20:46
Speaker 6: is a project designed to replace our system with another
20:49
Speaker 6: system that denies the freedom of speech, equality of rights
20:53
Speaker 6: to women, equality of rights to non Muslims, and much more.
20:56
Speaker 6: And most people are asleep and not aware of this threat.
20:59
Speaker 6: Even to this day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and the disinformation information war out there coming
21:04
Speaker 1: from folks on the radical left and right, because there's
21:07
Speaker 1: people on both sides now spewing hate towards certain Christians
21:11
Speaker 1: and certain Jews while cozing up to Islam, scares the
21:15
Speaker 1: hell out of me, because that is the total, wrong
21:18
Speaker 1: and opposite direction we should be going. Robert Spencer, thank
21:21
Speaker 1: you the books called Holy Hell. He's the director at
21:24
Speaker 1: Jihad Watch. Appreciate you, Robert.
21:27
Speaker 6: Great to talk to you, Dan, Thank you.
21:28
Speaker 1: Yep, straight ahead, AI warfare. It's being used at a
21:32
Speaker 1: rapid pace ever since the strikes on Iran began coming up.
21:35
Speaker 1: How it's now influencing people's perception of the conflict here
21:39
Speaker 1: at home and abroad. Director of Social Media Bret Bart
21:42
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24:00
Speaker 5: Their country based on disinformation and now they're using information
24:04
Speaker 5: plus AI, and that's a terrible situation.
24:08
Speaker 1: That's a terrible situation.
24:12
Speaker 5: They showed all sorts of things happening in the last
24:15
Speaker 5: two weeks that never happened.
24:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. President Trump ramping up the war of
24:20
Speaker 1: words with Tehran, this time targeting the technology, especially AI,
24:26
Speaker 1: behind doctored images and videos that keep coming out of
24:30
Speaker 1: the Middle East that are just blatantly false. Folks, They're fake.
24:36
Speaker 1: First we had to worry about fake news. Now we
24:39
Speaker 1: got to worry about fake maga people, and you got
24:42
Speaker 1: to worry about artificial intelligence and fake picks and video.
24:48
Speaker 1: The President accusing Iran of using high tech deception artificial
24:52
Speaker 1: intelligence to try and mask its own military weakness. The
24:56
Speaker 1: President specifically pointing out some dramatic visuals that have been
24:59
Speaker 1: circul online, including one image and I've seen it. It's
25:04
Speaker 1: crap of the USS Abraham Lincoln allegedly on fire, and
25:08
Speaker 1: reports of five US refueling planes being shot down by Iran,
25:13
Speaker 1: which has not happened, by the way, folks that KC
25:16
Speaker 1: one th five Refueller that went down that killed six
25:20
Speaker 1: of our brave troops happened during refueling. They didn't shoot
25:24
Speaker 1: it down. Trump says this is all phony AI generated
25:28
Speaker 1: images meant to undermine the US and our military, and
25:32
Speaker 1: of course to try and make Iran appear more powerful
25:35
Speaker 1: than they are. FCC Chair Brendan Carr back in the
25:39
Speaker 1: President's stance, threatening to review the broadcast licenses of US
25:43
Speaker 1: media outlets that air any of the Iranian artificial intelligence
25:48
Speaker 1: linked reports. And I can tell you there's some people online,
25:53
Speaker 1: some folks you might believe in that are putting some
25:55
Speaker 1: of this crap out or interviewing people that are putting
25:58
Speaker 1: this crap out that are literally making statements like, well,
26:01
Speaker 1: our bases are estimating decimated, the ports are decimated, and
26:05
Speaker 1: are rans stronger than we think. Iran's winning this thing.
26:09
Speaker 1: These are Americans, these are patriots saying this crap on
26:13
Speaker 1: homeland soil disgusting. Our next guest, Wittenhall, wrote a recent
26:19
Speaker 1: piece in The New York Post highlighting the surge of
26:21
Speaker 1: high tech quad copters and autonomous drone swarms, pointing out
26:26
Speaker 1: these aren't just remote controlled toys, they're AI powered hunters
26:31
Speaker 1: capable of selecting and neutralizing targets in seconds. Military leaders
26:35
Speaker 1: say these systems shortened missions from hours to minutes, but
26:39
Speaker 1: the speed comes at a cost, Critics raising the alarm
26:42
Speaker 1: over meaningful human oversight as these machines begin to make
26:47
Speaker 1: life and death situations, and folks, we're talking about on
26:51
Speaker 1: and off the battlefield. Russian President Vladimir Putin once warned,
26:56
Speaker 1: whoever leads in AI will rule the world. Folks. This
27:01
Speaker 1: is the modern day arms race, and for the US
27:03
Speaker 1: the mission is clear. We got to stay ahead or
27:06
Speaker 1: face a new world. I would call it a new
27:09
Speaker 1: world order of high tech. Tear here now to discuss
27:14
Speaker 1: the weaponization of AI. He's the director of Social Media
27:17
Speaker 1: over at Bright Martin News, a distinguished fellow at the
27:20
Speaker 1: Government Accountability Institute, and the author of the book on
27:23
Speaker 1: Your Screen Code, Read the Left, The Right, China and
27:27
Speaker 1: the Race to Control AI. Witton Hall on the program wenttin,
27:33
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen me speak about AI before,
27:36
Speaker 1: but you know, being in my fifties and growing up
27:40
Speaker 1: with the Terminator movies, you know what I'm gonna say. Okay,
27:44
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about the whole sky Neet thing.
27:47
Speaker 1: And now when I read your article and I hear
27:49
Speaker 1: that AI can control drones already, and then we see
27:53
Speaker 1: what AI is putting out on social media for the
27:57
Speaker 1: world to digest, ninety percent of it fake. When it
28:00
Speaker 1: comes to this conflict in Iran, I think I'm right
28:04
Speaker 1: to be a little bit, well not a little very
28:07
Speaker 1: apprehensive about artificial intelligence. But it's here, We're stuck with it,
28:12
Speaker 1: and we better control it.
28:14
Speaker 7: Right, Dan, You're exactly right, and you're right to be concerned.
28:18
Speaker 7: There are a lot of grave concerns, quite frankly, that
28:20
Speaker 7: we need to be talking about in terms of security.
28:23
Speaker 7: One of the biggest things is that the democratization of
28:26
Speaker 7: this technology, meaning its access is getting wider, its prices
28:30
Speaker 7: are getting cheaper. That means, on the one hand, yeah,
28:33
Speaker 7: more people could use it to build businesses or do
28:35
Speaker 7: something positive.
28:36
Speaker 3: But for nonstate actors and people with bad.
28:39
Speaker 7: Intentions, that means that the price of doing damage, whether
28:43
Speaker 7: it is propaganda, terrorist recruitment, or actual targeted attacks, whether
28:49
Speaker 7: you're talking about biochemical or otherwise, is going to increase because.
28:54
Speaker 3: The costs have become very very low. So now you
28:57
Speaker 3: have you know.
28:57
Speaker 7: In cases of PhD level weapons, chemical information accessible you
29:03
Speaker 7: have for people that used to never have access to
29:06
Speaker 7: that very very low cost. So you're absolutely right to
29:08
Speaker 7: be concerned. And it's only going to get worse. I'll
29:11
Speaker 7: tell you, the worst version of AI you used was
29:13
Speaker 7: the one you used today, and it's like your iPhone seventeen.
29:16
Speaker 3: We're on now, remember way back when it was number one.
29:19
Speaker 7: We've come a long way, and so the technology is
29:22
Speaker 7: going to only accelerate.
29:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have one of those. Unfortunately, my wife talked
29:26
Speaker 1: me into it. It has a new button on the
29:28
Speaker 1: side for AI, right, I can just tap let's start
29:31
Speaker 1: talking and then chat GBT or one of them tells
29:34
Speaker 1: me what the heck's up. I don't use it. I
29:36
Speaker 1: don't like it. Throw those headlines up, guys, because fake explosions,
29:41
Speaker 1: fake missiles, fake troops, fake aircraft carriers on fire, fake
29:48
Speaker 1: air force planes being shot down. AI when it comes
29:51
Speaker 1: to this conflict and these strikes in Iran is really
29:54
Speaker 1: dangerous because I feel like, not only does it embolden
29:58
Speaker 1: the Iranian milik terry, which is getting smoked by US
30:01
Speaker 1: because they think they might be winning. I guess because
30:04
Speaker 1: they control the media over there and do a blackout
30:07
Speaker 1: and then control what the AI puts out. But also
30:10
Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to affect how millions of
30:12
Speaker 1: Americans feel about this because they're seeing images that aren't real.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, after October seventh, right,
30:20
Speaker 1: I remember seeing and they're still out there a bunch
30:23
Speaker 1: of AI images of what the Hamas and folks from
30:30
Speaker 1: gods and whatever we're putting out about what did or
30:33
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And I remember seeing they were showing the
30:36
Speaker 1: rubble and going, oh, look at these dead kids and
30:39
Speaker 1: families and whatever. And then you see the kid move
30:41
Speaker 1: and look over and the dead close his eyes. Like
30:43
Speaker 1: there's fake videos, there's fake AI. There's a lot of stuff.
30:47
Speaker 1: How the heck do we even tell what's real and
30:50
Speaker 1: fake anymore?
30:51
Speaker 7: Witten Dan, It is such a central question you're asking,
30:54
Speaker 7: and it's the question that we have to be focused on. Look,
30:57
Speaker 7: propaganda has been used for decades within warfare, and we
31:01
Speaker 7: know that, but you know, when you're talking about very
31:04
Speaker 7: very volatile groups of trying to recruit jihadis people that
31:08
Speaker 7: you have to get fired up emotionally and make them
31:12
Speaker 7: into a rage state. It's very very compelling because people
31:15
Speaker 7: often will see what they want to see, and so
31:18
Speaker 7: you and I may look at an image or a
31:19
Speaker 7: video and say, wow, that looks very very fake or inauthentic.
31:22
Speaker 7: But again they're trying to target a very specific demographic
31:26
Speaker 7: with highly emotional, highly provocative videos. Now, on the other hand,
31:30
Speaker 7: the other thing is that it can be used for disinformation,
31:32
Speaker 7: meaning a real video of ours, and they can then
31:35
Speaker 7: alter that to make it look fake and therefore raise
31:39
Speaker 7: suspicion in doubt, and so we're in this new information warfare.
31:42
Speaker 7: One point about what you said, how do we solve
31:45
Speaker 7: it and what's the issue. There are some efforts like
31:49
Speaker 7: synth id, which is a Google effort to try to
31:52
Speaker 7: have synthetic identification.
31:53
Speaker 3: Water marking of their products that are used.
31:56
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of easy.
31:58
Speaker 7: You know, walk arounds and work around in these spaces.
32:01
Speaker 7: Meta does tag all AI generated content.
32:05
Speaker 1: Right, and there's apps, some websites for folks that might
32:08
Speaker 1: be a bit older that don't get it. I'm still
32:10
Speaker 1: trying to catch up too. I can take an image
32:12
Speaker 1: or a video and put through certain apps and ask
32:15
Speaker 1: it is this real or AI, And a lot of
32:17
Speaker 1: times then the computer will tell you because it can
32:20
Speaker 1: tell how it's pixelated, if it's fake, or if it's real.
32:23
Speaker 1: We got to pay attention, Wintenhaul. Check out the book
32:26
Speaker 1: code read Somebody's gonna rule artificial intelligence, and it better
32:30
Speaker 1: be us before it's China. I agree with you, Witten,
32:33
Speaker 1: Thank you brother. Check out the book folks, code read
32:35
Speaker 1: take care, thank you, yep, great straight ahead. In addition
32:39
Speaker 1: to fake AI reporting, we also have to be on
32:42
Speaker 1: the lookout for fake news reports from so called right
32:47
Speaker 1: wing influencers and podcasters, even some talk show hosts who
32:51
Speaker 1: are getting paid by foreign entities or just care more
32:54
Speaker 1: about lining their own pockets than telling the truth and
32:58
Speaker 1: supporting their nation, our troops and President Trump. We come
33:01
Speaker 1: back Goldstein from the Lawfare Project. We here to discuss
33:05
Speaker 1: who to trust, who not to comes to where you
33:07
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, all right, listen up to this report, folks.
35:27
Speaker 1: A new investigation raising questions about the monetary backing where
35:31
Speaker 1: the cash comes from for growing digital news outlets on
35:35
Speaker 1: social media, specifically drop site News. Remember that one they
35:40
Speaker 1: market themselves as completely independent and a one percent viewer
35:45
Speaker 1: supported platform form. However, tax filings oh Yeah show that
35:50
Speaker 1: they get a whole bunch of cash from very controversial sources.
35:55
Speaker 1: There's radical left wingers, there's anti Americans, you know, like
35:59
Speaker 1: that billionaire George Soros. Drop site news George Soros money.
36:05
Speaker 1: According to reports from the Washington Free Beacon, Soros's Open
36:08
Speaker 1: Society Foundation provided at least two hundred and fifty thousand
36:12
Speaker 1: bucks in seed money to drop site Yeah to get
36:15
Speaker 1: them going. This funding comes at a time when drop
36:17
Speaker 1: site is faced intense scrutiny for its editorial direction, which
36:22
Speaker 1: critics describe as overly anti Israel and even anti American.
36:27
Speaker 1: I would say some of their posts and some of
36:29
Speaker 1: their reporters are even pro Hamas and pro Hesbola, and
36:33
Speaker 1: we got the receipts to prove it. While the outlet
36:36
Speaker 1: maintains its donors have no influence over their reporting, sure
36:40
Speaker 1: the discovery of the Soros connections now ignited a fresh
36:43
Speaker 1: debate over transparency in so called independent media. Critics argue
36:49
Speaker 1: that independent is a misnomer when a platform is bankrolled
36:53
Speaker 1: by one of the most world's notorious donors. Yeah, think
36:57
Speaker 1: about it. The influence of the Soros funding is now
37:00
Speaker 1: being felt at the highest level of American national security.
37:04
Speaker 1: The Nation Security Council is formally shooting down what it
37:07
Speaker 1: calls lies published by drop Site News regarding a top
37:12
Speaker 1: administration staffer. The outlet recently targeted Morav Sarm, the newly
37:17
Speaker 1: appointed director for Israel and Iran Desk, claiming she previously
37:21
Speaker 1: worked for the Israeli government. The report, which critics are
37:24
Speaker 1: calling a coordinated character assassination, suggests that Sarah's past research
37:29
Speaker 1: involved official ties to the IDF. However, the NCS is
37:34
Speaker 1: hitting back, labeling the allegations flat out false and blatant lies.
37:39
Speaker 1: A spokesperson for the NCS says that while Sarin participated
37:43
Speaker 1: in a fellowship, she was never an employee of a
37:47
Speaker 1: foreign government dismissing this report and calling it a complete fabrication. Now,
37:54
Speaker 1: the blatant anti Semitic, anti American left wing propaganda outlet
37:59
Speaker 1: also so made some other disgusting claims earlier this month
38:03
Speaker 1: about October seventh and the attacks in Israel. No independent
38:07
Speaker 1: human rights organization, not the UN, not the HRW, not
38:11
Speaker 1: Amnesty has confirmed a single rape from October seventh. Really, huh,
38:18
Speaker 1: Rob Emmanuel twenty twenty eight Hopeful like Governor Pritzker, is
38:21
Speaker 1: still using the atrocity campaign propaganda to explain Israel's mass
38:26
Speaker 1: murder of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. That's the
38:30
Speaker 1: post wow. In response for a request to comment, the
38:37
Speaker 1: White House sent drop site News the following statement. You ready,
38:41
Speaker 1: the radical left wing drop site News is clearly carrying
38:44
Speaker 1: water for the Iranian terrorist regime and reports like these
38:48
Speaker 1: based on pure fiction and citing, of course, unnamed sources,
38:53
Speaker 1: should be discarded immediately. Iran feeds this fake news media
38:57
Speaker 1: outlet propaganda and they publish it as fact, which is
39:01
Speaker 1: abhorrent America last behavior. Operation Epic Fury will continue unabated
39:06
Speaker 1: until President Trump, as Commander in chief, determines that the
39:10
Speaker 1: goals of Operation Epic Fury, including for Iran to no
39:14
Speaker 1: longer pose a military threat, have been fully realized. End
39:19
Speaker 1: of statement. Joining me now to sound off about drop
39:22
Speaker 1: site News and other fake independent news outlets out there
39:26
Speaker 1: taking money from the bad guys or just doing it
39:29
Speaker 1: for clicks and likes and subscriptions. She's the executive director
39:33
Speaker 1: over at the Lawfair Project. Brooke Goldstein back on the program, Brooke,
39:37
Speaker 1: nice to see you. I'll be honest, I don't read
39:40
Speaker 1: this crap, so I didn't even know who drop site
39:42
Speaker 1: News was. I saw some of these scumbag independent journalists
39:46
Speaker 1: some of their tweets and exposts and just kind of
39:49
Speaker 1: brushed it off, like, Okay, that's probably a paid agitator,
39:52
Speaker 1: like you know, a RAN's pay am, or they want
39:56
Speaker 1: to stir up crap because you need engagement on social
39:59
Speaker 1: media to make money. So what do you think are
40:03
Speaker 1: these reporters for drop site News besides taking the Soros money.
40:06
Speaker 1: Are they doing it because they're getting the propaganda straight
40:09
Speaker 1: from the Islamic regime and getting paid through other entities,
40:13
Speaker 1: or are they doing it just because they want the
40:14
Speaker 1: engagement so they can get paid through their subscriptions or both.
40:18
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, thank you for having me in
40:20
Speaker 8: highlighting this important issue that we have in this country
40:23
Speaker 8: and in the West in general, is the intense amount
40:27
Speaker 8: of pro Islamist radical propaganda.
40:31
Speaker 9: That is now seeping into our homes and into our
40:34
Speaker 9: social media, spreading an anti American narrative whose sole purpose
40:39
Speaker 9: is to undermine our ability to fight against and defeat
40:43
Speaker 9: radical Islam and in theologically motivated terrorism. And it's not
40:48
Speaker 9: only the funding sources with drop site News that's an issue,
40:52
Speaker 9: it's actually who they are associated and involved with. Besides,
40:57
Speaker 9: as you said, profiling Hamas terrorists didn't nine rate on
41:01
Speaker 9: October the seventh. They have actually interviewed members of designated
41:05
Speaker 9: terrorist groups like Hamas, they promote Hamas propaganda and a
41:10
Speaker 9: gentleman named Hossam Shabbat, who is an actual Hammusk terrorist
41:14
Speaker 9: who was killed by the Israelis was listed as a
41:18
Speaker 9: contributor on drop site.
41:21
Speaker 1: Whoa wait a minute, way, you can't make this up.
41:22
Speaker 1: Hold on, a contributor for drop site was a member
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Speaker 1: of one of the terror groups that recently got killed. Okay,
41:28
Speaker 1: another connection too, and so much so.
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Speaker 9: That even the Palestine authority has come out and said
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Speaker 9: that drop Site is acting as though it's a front
41:39
Speaker 9: for the Hamas terrorist group and spreading Hamas propaganda. So
41:43
Speaker 9: this is what's going on, and unfortunately, this is what
41:46
Speaker 9: is now being amplified by people like Megan Kelly, who
41:49
Speaker 9: I don't know if there's a bunch of.
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Speaker 1: Useful idiots that are American broadcasters that are either podcasters
41:54
Speaker 1: or talk show hosts or influencers. I've seen them put
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Speaker 1: reporters from drop Site News on their shows and act
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Speaker 1: like what they're saying is factual. And when they spread
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Speaker 1: their lives and hate, these so called independent journalists and
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Speaker 1: talk shows aren't even call them on it and going wholla,
42:08
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's not factual. Didn't I see hold
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Speaker 1: on real quick? Didn't I see that one of these
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Speaker 1: reporters also, And I don't know if you were in
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Speaker 1: the mix back and forth on X was sticking up
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Speaker 1: for the guy that rammed his truck into the synagogue
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Speaker 1: near Detroit last week and tried to kill a bunch
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Speaker 1: of folks because he's like, well, his family got killed
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Speaker 1: by the idf over in Lebanon. Yeah, because his brother
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Speaker 1: was a commander of Hesbelah. And these idiots on drop
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Speaker 1: site were sticking up for him.
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Speaker 9: A weapons commander, a weapons operative who is in charge
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Speaker 9: WOW launching rockets at Israeli civilians and used his own
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Speaker 9: children and his own family as human shields. And actually,
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Speaker 9: Megan Kelly had the stupid idea to repost Ryan Grimm,
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Speaker 9: who is the co founder of the SUROS funded publication
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Speaker 9: and the posts insinuated that we can understand the most
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Speaker 9: motive of this terrorist who intentionally targeted and wanted to
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Speaker 9: kill over one hundred and forty American school children preschool children,
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Speaker 9: that we should understand his motive because his family was
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Speaker 9: killed in an idea of wells.
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Speaker 1: Right, Megan Kelly retweeted a sympathizers.
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Speaker 9: A member of HESBLA. Meghan Kelly retweeted Ryan Grimm, who
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Speaker 9: is the co founder.
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Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, insinuating.
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Speaker 9: That we could understand the of this HESPELA connected terrorist
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Speaker 9: because his family was killed by the idea without even
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Speaker 9: mentioning how intellectually dishonest, what kind of narrative pro propat
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Speaker 9: Islamist propaganda manipulation that we're seeing when we're spreading this one.
43:41
Speaker 9: We need to, you know, sympathize with his motive, his
43:44
Speaker 9: family was blood. They were killed because they were hesbright.
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Speaker 1: You mean, like Dave smithis. Dave Smith is another piece
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Speaker 1: of trash that's out there on the internet doing the
43:54
Speaker 1: same thing. Show his tweet, Islam is such a violent religion.
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Speaker 1: Every time we murder a bunch of their kids, they
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Speaker 1: try to kill some of us. Disgusting. He's, of course
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Speaker 1: being a smart ass. This was in reference to the
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Speaker 1: guy that drove his truck into the synagogue last week
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Speaker 1: in Michigan. So Dave Smith's another one that sticks up
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Speaker 1: for him, along with Max Blumenthal and Kurt Mills. Now
44:14
Speaker 1: let me real quick, because this is the news of
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Speaker 1: the day. Joe Kent resigned today wrote a big scathing
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Speaker 1: letter about how he can't stand behind President Trump and
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Speaker 1: the war in Iran. Immediately it comes out that his wife, no,
44:28
Speaker 1: not the wife that was killed by isis in combat.
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Speaker 1: His new wife, Heather, is a former military intelligence officer
44:34
Speaker 1: and a researcher for grey Zone. Grey Zone is the
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Speaker 1: news outlet that Max Blumenthal works for. Well, Max Blumenthal
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Speaker 1: last year went and toured the missile program in Iran
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Speaker 1: at the behest of the Islamic regime, and anybody that
44:50
Speaker 1: knows Max Blumenthal's reporting, or Kurt Mels or Dave Smith.
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Speaker 1: These guys literally suck up to the terrorist trash Jews
44:58
Speaker 1: or any Christians that support Jews, and all of them
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Speaker 1: now are trashing President Trump over the strikes and Iran.
45:04
Speaker 1: I just want folks to know I used to have
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Speaker 1: Joe on the program all the time. I respect his service,
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Speaker 1: think he's a great guy. But the White House is
45:11
Speaker 1: accusing him now of being the leaker of information to
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Speaker 1: certain entities, and so I got a question now Joe's
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Speaker 1: intentions if they're claiming he's a leaker. But I also
45:21
Speaker 1: want to point out who's out there that's been lying
45:24
Speaker 1: and using their title as independent journalist to try and
45:27
Speaker 1: convince Americans that Islam is okay and that Jews and
45:32
Speaker 1: any Christian that support Jews are bad. Final word to you,
45:36
Speaker 1: Brook Goldstein, Yeah, I.
45:37
Speaker 9: Mean he was a known leaker, he was on his
45:40
Speaker 9: way out, his access to classified information was revoked, he
45:44
Speaker 9: was probably about to be fired. And again he's doing
45:47
Speaker 9: exactly what all of these news sites do is intentionally
45:51
Speaker 9: to deflect our attention away from what is the real
45:55
Speaker 9: problem radical Islam. The fact that Katar is spending billions
45:59
Speaker 9: of dollars of year radicalizing our college campus. Is the
46:02
Speaker 9: fact that we had four Islamist motivated terrorist attacks in
46:06
Speaker 9: the United States within a week and a half. And
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Speaker 9: it's no coincidence that this letter came out and his
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Speaker 9: resignation came out right before. We have the Senate hearings,
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Speaker 9: the Intel hearings, which supposed to talk about these issues,
46:17
Speaker 9: but instead of talking about radical Islam, they want to
46:20
Speaker 9: divert attentions. Eight it's the Jews, it's Israel. Well, anyone
46:23
Speaker 9: like you know Joe Kant who changes his position one
46:26
Speaker 9: eighty degrees, the same with Tucker Calls, and the same
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Speaker 9: with Megan Kelly as adults recently in the last two
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Speaker 9: to three years have one eighty degree changed their positions.
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Speaker 1: And they were also never Trumpers.
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Speaker 9: Book undermining our war effort. This is not organic and
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Speaker 9: we have to ask why who are they serving with
46:43
Speaker 9: this narrative?
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Speaker 1: Right And as you heard me say, they were also
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Speaker 1: never Trumpers. Many of these people never supported President Trump
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Speaker 1: until the twenty twenty four maybe some in the twenty
46:52
Speaker 1: twenty election, but they have not been by his side
46:55
Speaker 1: or even on the America first side. Many of them
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Speaker 1: are previous Democrats, and Democrat voters on the record. Brett Goldstein,
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Speaker 1: executive director at Lawfare Project, thank you for coming on.
47:04
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Thank you. Stick around. Up next, do you believe?
47:09
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49:42
Speaker 8: I never felt alive and then dead.
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Speaker 9: I felt alive and then more aligned.
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Speaker 10: I had full brain recordings from the dying human brain.
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Speaker 1: Even though they were unconscious, they were able to give
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Speaker 1: corroborative evidence. It's a singular question that's perplexed humanity since
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Speaker 1: the dawn of time, a mystery that transcends culture, religion,
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Speaker 1: and science. Is their life after death? Yes, in my
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Speaker 1: humble opinion. In twenty twenty three, there was a documentary
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Speaker 1: entitled After Death Now streaming from Angel Studios, and it
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Speaker 1: explores the unknown through the eyes of folks who claim
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Speaker 1: they crossed over and they saw heaven. However, some in
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Speaker 1: the documentary didn't see heaven. Gabe bro is one of
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Speaker 1: the few who's crossed over and recklessly came back. Traveling
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Speaker 1: thirty miles an hour on a skateboard, Gabe was thrown
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Speaker 1: headfirst into the pavement, no helmet, no warning. Rushed to
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Speaker 1: surgery with severe brain hemorrhaging, Gabe fell into an eighteen
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Speaker 1: day coma. Doctors didn't know if he was going to
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Speaker 1: make it, and while Gabe was fighting for his life,
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Speaker 1: he says his spirit went elsewhere, describing a city of
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Speaker 1: glory and a faith to face encounter with the Creator.
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Speaker 1: Back on Earth, a community of family and strangers build
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Speaker 1: a bridge of prayer for Gabe. Gabe claims he could
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Speaker 1: actually see those prayers manifesting hm and pulled him back
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Speaker 1: to life, the life he nearly lost. Against all medical odds,
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Speaker 1: Gabe didn't just wake up. He woke up and walked
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Speaker 1: out in the hospital, even though docs were like no way. Today,
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Speaker 1: his recovery is called a total miracle and a reminder
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Speaker 1: that even in our darkest hours, we are carried by
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Speaker 1: a grace that can't always be seen.
51:38
Speaker 10: I literally saw the prayers of the saints, the sons
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Speaker 10: and daughters of God. I saw them from Heaven's perspective.
51:45
Speaker 10: They were gathered up into this ball, this golden bull,
51:49
Speaker 10: every single one of them, and literally they are presented
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Speaker 10: to the throne room of Heaven, and all of Heaven
51:56
Speaker 10: stands at attention because our prayers are the Father's priority.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now for some real good news to discuss
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Speaker 1: his first hand experience with death, but more importantly, with heaven.
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Speaker 1: He's the author of the book Eighteen Days in Heaven.
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Speaker 1: I left my body, I met Jesus. What he told
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Speaker 1: me will alter your eternity. I am so excited about
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Speaker 1: this interview Gabe Perrot on the program for the first time.
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Speaker 1: Young man. It is such a pleasure to meet you.
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Speaker 11: How you doing, Gabe, and thank you so much for
52:26
Speaker 11: having me. It's such an honor to be here.
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Speaker 1: Ah, knock it off. It's listen to talk to somebody
52:34
Speaker 1: who has seen the face of Jesus. And I believe
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Speaker 1: in this one hundred and twenty percent. So I don't
52:40
Speaker 1: know if my viewers are believers or non believers, but
52:43
Speaker 1: hopefully after they hear from you, sir, they're gonna be believers.
52:46
Speaker 1: I watched this documentary and when my wife said she
52:50
Speaker 1: was booking you, I was off the charts excited because
52:54
Speaker 1: I watched that movie a couple of years ago and
52:56
Speaker 1: it reaffirmed my faith. And then when we lost our
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Speaker 1: mutual friend Charlie Kirk last fall and I saw the
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Speaker 1: billions around the globe coming to Christ, it again reaffirmed
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Speaker 1: my faith. And I'm gonna get choked up. So, Gabe,
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Speaker 1: I kind of told your story, but back up and
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Speaker 1: tell us more about those eighteen days. Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely well. I had flipped off my skateboard. My skull
53:21
Speaker 11: was cracked in half. I flat lined right then and there.
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Speaker 11: And what's wild is I actually watched my friend hold
53:26
Speaker 11: my postured lifeless body in his arms, but as real
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Speaker 11: as he was holding my body. Actually, the prayers he
53:31
Speaker 11: was already praying over me were even more real because
53:34
Speaker 11: I saw the truthless of the spiritual world, and I
53:37
Speaker 11: saw the realities of the second Heaven, and then I
53:39
Speaker 11: was actually pulled to the third Heaven. And all this
53:41
Speaker 11: medical documents show the evidence as well. For all the
53:45
Speaker 11: skeptics out there. Now, that last photo was actually the
53:48
Speaker 11: photo after I was brought back. That was my first
53:50
Speaker 11: meal right there. Now that MRI is of my broken
53:54
Speaker 11: skull as well. But we can get into the in between,
53:57
Speaker 11: right So I say eighteen days in heaven in my book,
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Speaker 11: but you know where I was set. Actually it felt
54:01
Speaker 11: like two minutes because time doesn't operate the same when
54:04
Speaker 11: you're outside of it. Okay, So this light suctioned me,
54:08
Speaker 11: and I love to actually detail this person that I encountered.
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Speaker 1: I want you to do that, but I want to
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Speaker 1: back up one and talk about leaving the body and
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Speaker 1: seeing what was happening here on this plane while you
54:21
Speaker 1: were in heaven, because I noted something from this movie,
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Speaker 1: and folks, go watch the movie tonight after this interview.
54:28
Speaker 1: Every one of you that was a believer that went
54:31
Speaker 1: to heaven and some of these folks in the film
54:33
Speaker 1: it happened in the seventies, the eighties and nineties, you
54:36
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, right, and the story is almost identical.
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Speaker 1: And then there's two people who were non believers who
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Speaker 1: committed suicide and what they saw was hell. But all
54:46
Speaker 1: of them reported seeing what was happening outside of their
54:49
Speaker 1: body while they were clinically dead, which doctors say is impossible.
54:54
Speaker 1: So explain that for the folks that go, no, no, no,
54:56
Speaker 1: you're just reiterating what your parents taught you about heaven, Gabe,
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Speaker 1: you didn't see anything. You saw things while you were
55:03
Speaker 1: out that was happening around you. How would that happen
55:06
Speaker 1: if there isn't a heaven and a hell.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I actually doubted these all these NDEs, and
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Speaker 11: I thought people would just making this up for clicks,
55:12
Speaker 11: and I would laugh about it. Actually what I would
55:14
Speaker 11: hear people talk about their testimonies. But here I found
55:17
Speaker 11: myself in one directly personally, right, and so everything changed.
55:21
Speaker 11: And so yeah, I actually saw the words they were structures,
55:25
Speaker 11: They were living organisms. Our words and our prayers were
55:29
Speaker 11: literally their own living structures. And I saw how this
55:31
Speaker 11: in this spiritual world, which is way more real than
55:34
Speaker 11: like the physical, by the way, and scientists have actually
55:36
Speaker 11: documented that now they've measured eleven dimensions, and they know
55:39
Speaker 11: there's way more out there. And people are talking about
55:41
Speaker 11: dark matter and the space and how how things came
55:44
Speaker 11: out of nothing, and we could get into all those details,
55:46
Speaker 11: but like, here's what is the evidence is. I saw
55:50
Speaker 11: how there's nothing, no such thing as something random, but
55:53
Speaker 11: that there are so many influences and principalities that that
55:58
Speaker 11: authoritatively people and nations and lives, and like things just
56:03
Speaker 11: made sense all of a sudden, things that don't make
56:06
Speaker 11: sense just in the natural, like why such evil would
56:09
Speaker 11: exist in certain places, especially you know, like how the
56:12
Speaker 11: Middle East has never made sense, you know what I mean,
56:14
Speaker 11: Like how certain nations just never make sense, And all
56:17
Speaker 11: of a sudden things made sense because I saw those
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Speaker 11: same princes and principalities and I saw the havoc they
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Speaker 11: wrecked upon entire nations.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, I recall and again to your story
56:30
Speaker 1: related to these ones in the film. I remember one
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Speaker 1: of the folks who was clinically dead on the table
56:37
Speaker 1: for a long time, or the gal who flipped her
56:40
Speaker 1: canoe over and was clinically drowned and dead for thirty minutes.
56:43
Speaker 1: Or the guy on the bridge that a semi hit.
56:46
Speaker 1: They had the yellow tarp over his car, no pulse,
56:48
Speaker 1: dead forty seven minutes. All of them describe, Oh, well,
56:52
Speaker 1: this medic came up and took my pulse. They said
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Speaker 1: I was dead. I saw the yellow sheet go over
56:56
Speaker 1: the car from above. The one, well, there was a
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Speaker 1: black doctor came in and he was filming around looking
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Speaker 1: for a device before he started cutting me open. And
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Speaker 1: my dad was over here praying in the chapel at
57:06
Speaker 1: the church. How would you see that if you're dead
57:09
Speaker 1: like this is how I don't get people don't believe
57:12
Speaker 1: when you see and hear Gabe's story, folks and others
57:16
Speaker 1: in this film, how could you not become a believer? Gabe,
57:20
Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about our friend Charlie
57:22
Speaker 1: because you were on his show a couple of years
57:24
Speaker 1: ago before he was taken from us. And I'm just
57:28
Speaker 1: gonna let you talk about Charlie because you know where
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Speaker 1: he's at.
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Speaker 11: Well, I just really need to tell everyone, and Dan,
57:33
Speaker 11: you know, I'm even gonna this is such a thing
57:35
Speaker 11: to do, but I'm actually gonna correct you. You said
57:37
Speaker 11: we lost him, Dan we didn't lose him. Earlier on
57:40
Speaker 11: this interview, you said we lost him, Dan, we didn't
57:42
Speaker 11: lose him. He is so alive, he is still with us.
57:45
Speaker 11: In fact, he can watch the story of our lives.
57:48
Speaker 11: He reads the books of our lives in heaven there,
57:51
Speaker 11: you know, Hebrews twelve talks about the great witnesses. And
57:53
Speaker 11: I'm telling you, like, his body died, but Charlie is
57:57
Speaker 11: alive forever more, and his voice still reigns through the
58:00
Speaker 11: voice of the Family of Christ that is on this earth.
58:03
Speaker 11: And we're carrying what Charlie fought for, which is which
58:06
Speaker 11: is truly the Gospel. Ultimately, that's what Charlie died for. Like,
58:09
Speaker 11: let's be real with ourselves, you know. Like, and so
58:13
Speaker 11: for those of us who do have a body, an
58:15
Speaker 11: authoritative vehicle, which is what I call it, right, we
58:18
Speaker 11: are able to have authority on the earth. But again,
58:21
Speaker 11: like Charlie didn't stop existing. He's alive now more than
58:24
Speaker 11: he ever was. And that's what I experienced. Like for
58:26
Speaker 11: my eighteen days, I didn't I wasn't lost, even though
58:29
Speaker 11: my family and friends were going through immense grief, they
58:32
Speaker 11: were going through the worst tragedy ever. But truthfully, there
58:36
Speaker 11: was no tragedy for me. I didn't experience any play.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're sitting at the foot of God, why would
58:41
Speaker 1: you want to did you want to stay? By the way,
58:43
Speaker 1: I remember one of the interviews in that film, the
58:45
Speaker 1: guy said for decades he had depression because he didn't
58:49
Speaker 1: want to come back. He was upset that he actually
58:51
Speaker 1: made it. He wanted to stay and it took him
58:54
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years to deal with. His wife and kids
58:57
Speaker 1: were getting mad because they're like, we wanted you back.
58:59
Speaker 1: He's like, I didn't I want to come back? Can
59:01
Speaker 1: you imagine this is heaven? Why would I want to
59:02
Speaker 1: come back to this death, destruction and evil? But yeah,
59:05
Speaker 1: it's let me put a headline up real quick, and
59:07
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give you the final word because
59:09
Speaker 1: I want folks to know this, because I feel like nowadays,
59:12
Speaker 1: especially with the conflicts in the Middle East and all
59:14
Speaker 1: the left right political division and all the hate in
59:17
Speaker 1: the world, people might be worried, where are we going? Well,
59:19
Speaker 1: guess what last year and especially after September tenth when
59:24
Speaker 1: Charlie went home, look at this gave Bible reading spike
59:28
Speaker 1: in the second half of twenty twenty five and the
59:32
Speaker 1: good news us older folks think that millennials and gen
59:34
Speaker 1: zers aren't doing it. Uh, Nearly half of all millennials
59:38
Speaker 1: and gen zers read the Bible weekly. Now, my grandma
59:41
Speaker 1: would get mad at you, Gabe and say you better
59:43
Speaker 1: read it daily because her generation read it every day.
59:46
Speaker 1: I'll give you the final word about heaven and Hell?
59:48
Speaker 1: Do they exist? Gabe Barro says, yes, and so do Why.
59:52
Speaker 11: Heaven is more real than anyone could understand than what
59:55
Speaker 11: if this heaven is not just a location. What if
59:58
Speaker 11: this heaven is not even just a location that you
1:00:00
Speaker 11: could pray that you arrive one day? But what if
1:00:02
Speaker 11: Heaven came to us? And what if this heaven is
1:00:04
Speaker 11: described as the Man and God at the same time,
1:00:08
Speaker 11: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, Alpha and Omega eternal
1:00:11
Speaker 11: one beginning in the end. And what if he has
1:00:14
Speaker 11: outstretched his arm to you today where you can actually
1:00:18
Speaker 11: know him by faith right now, you can receive him
1:00:21
Speaker 11: and you don't have to be afraid of death because
1:00:23
Speaker 11: one day your body might die, but you can fully
1:00:26
Speaker 11: be alive in Christ forevermore. And in my book, I've
1:00:29
Speaker 11: detailed the truth about answered prayer. I detailed the truth
1:00:32
Speaker 11: about what he revealed to me, what he looked like,
1:00:35
Speaker 11: and the truth about your eternity that can be altered.
1:00:39
Speaker 1: Now, beautiful, beautiful Gabe, do me a favor. When we
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Speaker 1: sign off here, hang with my wife. I want to
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Speaker 1: get your information. I would love to get your book,
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Speaker 1: this program, on this network. People need to hear your
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Speaker 1: story and believe Gabe Pirot, the author of Eighteen Days
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