Latest / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff / Massive Mailbag Part 2
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? How are
- 0:17Speaker 1: we doing? This is well, it's me John Midcoff. Three
- 0:21Speaker 1: out podcast Part two of the Mailbag. So Part two
- 0:23Speaker 1: of the mail Bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram
- 0:26Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those dms questions
- 0:29Speaker 1: answered here on the show. This will be the last
- 0:32Speaker 1: show of the week, So enjoy nice long weekend, enjoy
- 0:35Speaker 1: some soccer, go USA Friday, enjoy the US Open, and
- 0:40Speaker 1: do whatever you're gonna do this weekend. Have a good time.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Hopefully things are going well in your life. And we'll
- 0:45Speaker 1: be back with a couple of shows next week and
- 0:47Speaker 1: then probably have a very lighter schedule for a couple
- 0:51Speaker 1: of weeks with the with the holiday weekend and just
- 0:54Speaker 1: things kind of slowing down early July. But this will
- 0:58Speaker 1: be Part two of the Mailbag, and and we've done.
- 1:00Speaker 1: We did a Part one of the mail Bag yesterday.
- 1:02Speaker 1: We did a golf podcast the day before, We did
- 1:04Speaker 1: a big podcast the day before, so we had a
- 1:07Speaker 1: lot of content this week. Appreciate everyone listening. Guys are
- 1:09Speaker 1: cranking even in the offseason, so I tip my hat
- 1:12Speaker 1: to you. And yeah, if you guys know the drill.
- 1:16Speaker 1: If you listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe
- 1:18Speaker 1: to three and Out. If you guys want to watch
- 1:21Speaker 1: the show, it's on Netflix. We got we put separate
- 1:23Speaker 1: content on the YouTube channel as well. Anything that doesn't
- 1:26Speaker 1: make the podcast. So let's just let's just dive into
- 1:29Speaker 1: the show. I love the pod. Two questions for you
- 1:33Speaker 1: related to the Buffalo Bills. How do you think they'll
- 1:37Speaker 1: do this season after replacing Sean? Also, what team would
- 1:42Speaker 1: you see him joining or being a good fit for.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Let's start with the latter question, like, let's look some
- 1:49Speaker 1: big picture teams that coach is going to be in
- 1:52Speaker 1: a little trouble. I would say Todd Bowles is definitely
- 1:56Speaker 1: feels like he's on the hot seat. I would say
- 1:59Speaker 1: Zach Taylor is definitely on the hot seat. Sean has
- 2:03Speaker 1: proven that he can handle a big time quarterback and
- 2:07Speaker 1: you know the defense wall has let him down. Statistically,
- 2:09Speaker 1: they were actually pretty good last year against the pass.
- 2:13Speaker 1: And you know, he would be going to some of
- 2:16Speaker 1: these teams that have established personnel people. We could argue
- 2:19Speaker 1: with the Bengals, but Tampa. Those are just two that
- 2:22Speaker 1: come to mind. You would have to go some connections
- 2:27Speaker 1: people around the league that have worked either in Buffalo,
- 2:31Speaker 1: in Kansas City or I guess he didn't work in
- 2:33Speaker 1: Kansas City, but with the Eagles when he was there
- 2:36Speaker 1: for a long long time, and then he obviously worked
- 2:38Speaker 1: with Carolina. But you know, being went with him. I think,
- 2:43Speaker 1: you know, if you just tell me Mike Tomlin is
- 2:47Speaker 1: coming back, he's the number one candidate. He's just you know,
- 2:51Speaker 1: I don't know if there's that much of a difference
- 2:52Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven with Sean McDermott and Mike Tomlin.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I mean, Sean has been beaten. Now you can be like,
- 3:00Speaker 1: well they got Josh Allen, Well yeah, but it's like
- 3:03Speaker 1: he beat him. He was Mike was beating everybody when
- 3:06Speaker 1: he had Roethlisberger. That's where you rack up all your
- 3:08Speaker 1: wins with a good quarterback. But Mike is gonna be
- 3:11Speaker 1: just his panache, is fucking just style his swag like
- 3:17Speaker 1: he's in no doubt about it. Five year, one hundred
- 3:20Speaker 1: million dollars, everyone's fired up. Like John Harball. I do
- 3:24Speaker 1: think that Sean McDermott, unless there's some star young offensive coordinators,
- 3:29Speaker 1: would one hundred get a job. I think Mike Tomlin
- 3:32Speaker 1: is gonna have multiple offers next year, and Sean will
- 3:36Speaker 1: definitely have one. I mean, Todd, Munkin and Lafloor got jobs.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Why isn't Rosen talked about as a bigger bust. The
- 3:45Speaker 1: guy had twelve career touchdowns in less than three thousand yards.
- 3:49Speaker 1: I think the number one thing he's got going for
- 3:51Speaker 1: him is it just ended. Immediately started as a rookie,
- 3:54Speaker 1: tenth overall pick next year, traded for Kyler, and is
- 3:57Speaker 1: just over. So it's like it never really happened. You know.
- 4:02Speaker 1: You look at some of these other guys, they played
- 4:04Speaker 1: a little bit, they're with their team for long. He
- 4:06Speaker 1: was off his original team in less than twelve months.
- 4:11Speaker 1: It was that fast, Right, He's drafted when in April
- 4:14Speaker 1: Whends he traded March. I mean, so it just he
- 4:20Speaker 1: didn't even make it a calendar year. So I he
- 4:23Speaker 1: didn't play enough, and he was just out of sight,
- 4:26Speaker 1: out of mind. It's quicker than all these other guys.
- 4:30Speaker 1: I'm from the Bay Area and live in la We
- 4:33Speaker 1: had a wast nest outside our vacation rental in Lakita.
- 4:38Speaker 1: This guy's living. The key to stopping them is gasoline.
- 4:43Speaker 1: It deactivates their nervous system. Well, we actually found the
- 4:48Speaker 1: wast nest on the front of my house. Now, they
- 4:53Speaker 1: were also coming from the back, but I've just been peeking.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I haven't been swimming. It does feel like it's neutralized
- 4:59Speaker 1: their tackle little bit. We'll have to keep an eye
- 5:03Speaker 1: on it. But we did find a nest that had
- 5:05Speaker 1: twenty of them. Right, the guy that took it out
- 5:08Speaker 1: because it was like twenty feet in the air and
- 5:10Speaker 1: he's got this special spray said, you know, between eight
- 5:13Speaker 1: to ten were in the nest and died so typically.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And this was, you know, at eleven o'clock in the morning,
- 5:20Speaker 1: ten o'clock in the morning that he'd said, it's double
- 5:23Speaker 1: the size with washed out and about so we might
- 5:26Speaker 1: have just killed their operation. Why does the Shanahan Tree
- 5:33Speaker 1: absolutely suck at clock management? We all know Kyle has
- 5:37Speaker 1: his moments with all of his blown leads, but it
- 5:39Speaker 1: seems to also But it seems to also affect other
- 5:46Speaker 1: coaches that share his offensive philosophy. Lafleur, who has a
- 5:49Speaker 1: history of blown leads, Mike McDaniel has an issue with
- 5:52Speaker 1: managing the clock. What makes it really interesting, however, is
- 5:56Speaker 1: it seems to also affect the defensive coaches as well.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Ram was really bad in the big moments, like the
- 6:03Speaker 1: game versus the Commanders in twenty four and Demiko Ryans
- 6:06Speaker 1: had some questionable decisions this year in the playoff game
- 6:09Speaker 1: against the Pats. It's like a disease. None of the
- 6:12Speaker 1: coaches have found a cure. My question is, why do
- 6:16Speaker 1: you think poor clock management is a widespread as it
- 6:19Speaker 1: is in the coaching tree. I think for the offensive guys,
- 6:24Speaker 1: they are consumed with their plays, and they're so dialed
- 6:28Speaker 1: in on their plays. Think about yourself if you and
- 6:31Speaker 1: I see it, like trying to text were I was
- 6:35Speaker 1: doing a work Texas morning. I'm holding him. He's going nuts.
- 6:38Speaker 1: We've got about seven other things going on. You can't focus.
- 6:41Speaker 1: If you are dead set on one thing, it's hard
- 6:45Speaker 1: to just kind of handle the stuff going on around you.
- 6:50Speaker 1: So I think for the offensive guys, they are so
- 6:54Speaker 1: consumed with the offensive play call, just even if it's
- 6:59Speaker 1: not their I think that's all consuming for them in
- 7:02Speaker 1: a game. And like, if I'm defending any of the
- 7:05Speaker 1: clock management guys, and it's not even just the Shanahan Tree,
- 7:08Speaker 1: Lafloor's who the entire league, it's not easy. It's much
- 7:12Speaker 1: easier for us eating M and ms on our couch,
- 7:16Speaker 1: you know, with our hand on our pants, with our
- 7:18Speaker 1: feet up, going to god, fucking idiot, what a time out?
- 7:22Speaker 1: Well it's like, yeah, you're sitting on your couch. This
- 7:26Speaker 1: guy is in the freezing cold or the super hot.
- 7:29Speaker 1: You know, son trying to think about seven different things.
- 7:32Speaker 1: His star player just came out with a cramp. He
- 7:35Speaker 1: lost his middle linebacker to a broken leg er. There's
- 7:38Speaker 1: a lot going on. So I defend coaches in general
- 7:41Speaker 1: a little bit. I also just think that there are
- 7:45Speaker 1: certain things that when you work for Kyle, like they
- 7:48Speaker 1: he can say all he wants. Special teams is not
- 7:50Speaker 1: something they emphasize. So like when you look at LA floor,
- 7:53Speaker 1: they were offul of special teams. Shocker. You know, I
- 7:57Speaker 1: don't know. I can't tell you specifically about the clock management. Beside,
- 8:01Speaker 1: I think you're so caught up on the other stuff
- 8:04Speaker 1: that the clock management sometimes can it comes at you fast,
- 8:07Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you got to make a decision,
- 8:09Speaker 1: and if you hesitate, it can cost you a couple seconds.
- 8:12Speaker 1: You get caught no man's land. You almost just gotta
- 8:15Speaker 1: be willing to make a decision. I'm wondering if Nelly
- 8:19Speaker 1: Corda is on your radar, and she is on pace
- 8:21Speaker 1: for an all time great status with her latest win
- 8:24Speaker 1: and probably the best swing in golf. Men or women
- 8:28Speaker 1: shout out to the show Football Golf look forward to
- 8:31Speaker 1: it as much as the Dad Diaries. I have two girls,
- 8:34Speaker 1: ten and eight, and I can tell you it only
- 8:36Speaker 1: gets better. I can only hope. So I did watch
- 8:39Speaker 1: Nelly Corda's back nine on Sunday at RIV. I thought
- 8:44Speaker 1: you missed the putt on eighteen, but the other thing
- 8:47Speaker 1: is in no shade. I mean, these the girls don't
- 8:49Speaker 1: hit it as long as the boys. I would be,
- 8:54Speaker 1: especially if I, like could train a little bit for
- 8:57Speaker 1: a couple months, I would be the longest person on
- 8:59Speaker 1: the LPGA tour. Like I'd be hitting it past everybody,
- 9:03Speaker 1: all their part five's. You know, it was weird watching
- 9:06Speaker 1: RIV because you're used to the guys. Some of the
- 9:09Speaker 1: distances on their holes. I mean, I'd be like driver
- 9:13Speaker 1: seven iron on some of their holes. It's a completely
- 9:16Speaker 1: different game. She's good, massive fan. Question for the bag.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I live in Sydney, Australia, and I'm traveling to the
- 9:24Speaker 1: US next year. With my wife for her fortieth birthday.
- 9:27Speaker 1: It's a big birthday. I'm a massive Raider fan and
- 9:30Speaker 1: want to go to a home game in Vegas. While
- 9:32Speaker 1: i'm there, I love to do a college football game. Also,
- 9:36Speaker 1: I love the Longhorns. What other sporting events would you
- 9:40Speaker 1: recommend as a must do experience? Well, if you're coming
- 9:43Speaker 1: in the fall, it's football season. It's not like it's
- 9:47Speaker 1: noo Kentucky Derby. If you're able to get to an
- 9:51Speaker 1: SEC football game and get to Vegas and go to
- 9:53Speaker 1: a Raider game, that's a pretty solid sporting event, you know,
- 9:58Speaker 1: checklist for you. Whatever else you got are gonna do.
- 10:01Speaker 1: So I don't like, I don't even know. I mean,
- 10:05Speaker 1: I I football season is all I do is football,
- 10:08Speaker 1: So I can't even I don't know what else is
- 10:10Speaker 1: going on. That's kind of crazy. If you ask me,
- 10:12Speaker 1: like what should I do in the fall, I'm like football,
- 10:16Speaker 1: maybe play golf on a Friday. Football my brain. It's
- 10:22Speaker 1: kind of sad. But if an entire NFL coaching staff
- 10:25Speaker 1: took over a team of eighth graders full off season
- 10:30Speaker 1: to train them, do you think they could dominate against
- 10:33Speaker 1: any high school varsity team Since NFL coaches are so
- 10:37Speaker 1: much more advanced strategically. Could their schemes in preparation help
- 10:41Speaker 1: the eighth graders overcome the obvious size disadvantages? No, there
- 10:49Speaker 1: is no way an eighth grade team they could have
- 10:52Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, Vince Lombardi and Parcels against high school kids.
- 10:58Speaker 1: There's a physical mismap of an eighth grader. I mean
- 11:02Speaker 1: I personally hit puberty like I remember looking down or
- 11:06Speaker 1: maybe I've got one in my arm first, I think,
- 11:10Speaker 1: like going into ninth grade. So typically boys hit it
- 11:13Speaker 1: later than girls. Right, Girls can hit it like twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
- 11:17Speaker 1: So some guys hit it like sixteen years old. So
- 11:19Speaker 1: the physical advantage the line of scrimmage, especially if you're
- 11:24Speaker 1: playing at high school with seniors that have some college players,
- 11:30Speaker 1: you'd get they'd be so much faster than you. Now,
- 11:32Speaker 1: if it's like the worst high school team ever, sure,
- 11:34Speaker 1: and you got Christian McCaffrey, Patrick Mahomes and you know
- 11:41Speaker 1: Patrick Chartan that are eighth graders on your team, maybe
- 11:44Speaker 1: you could make some plays, but it would be really,
- 11:47Speaker 1: really difficult. So I would say no, I was it
- 11:50Speaker 1: every morning. I'm a Ravens fan and for a long
- 11:53Speaker 1: time I've said a receiver is what we need to
- 11:56Speaker 1: move the needle, not our coach. We made some half
- 12:00Speaker 1: fast attempts to get a veteran receiver with Beckham Hopkins,
- 12:04Speaker 1: but they both were on the decline. Flowers is good,
- 12:08Speaker 1: but not good enough to carry the whole team like
- 12:11Speaker 1: a Justin Jefferson. Could am I missing something? Would love
- 12:14Speaker 1: your input. Second question, I'm going to Charleston, South Carolina
- 12:19Speaker 1: for a conference and I have a day off. I
- 12:21Speaker 1: want to play some golf. Well, I've never been, but
- 12:24Speaker 1: if I was you, I would try to play like
- 12:28Speaker 1: Harbortown or Cula. I would say it just hasn't been
- 12:33Speaker 1: your mo historically as an organization. You know, from a man
- 12:37Speaker 1: cowin Bolden to who's Lamar's best wide receiver Ben, that's
- 12:42Speaker 1: just not really the Look at the guys they invest in.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Look at this offseason. Who are their two big investments
- 12:46Speaker 1: a guard and a pass rusher? And they let a
- 12:50Speaker 1: playmaking tight end leave. So I'm with you, like I
- 12:55Speaker 1: think they would love Justin Jefferson, but they're probably less
- 12:58Speaker 1: inclined to take that guy. You almost need to get
- 13:01Speaker 1: lucky in the draft. Save Flower is a good pick.
- 13:04Speaker 1: He's a good player. But hell, maybe you trade for
- 13:08Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. Would you trade two first round picks if
- 13:11Speaker 1: you're the Ravens for Justin Jefferson? You know a guy
- 13:14Speaker 1: like that if they're available. From a Bronco fan perspective,
- 13:18Speaker 1: you were hot and cold on Nicks. Sometimes it feels
- 13:20Speaker 1: like you are pretty high on him. Other times it
- 13:22Speaker 1: feels like you view him like you don't view him
- 13:25Speaker 1: as a competent quarterback. Example, you've said something on along
- 13:29Speaker 1: the lines if Josh Allen had his chance at a
- 13:31Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year and he couldn't even get through
- 13:33Speaker 1: bow freaking Knicks. So what's your take on bo I
- 13:39Speaker 1: know you don't like rankings, but where do you think
- 13:40Speaker 1: he fits any chance that he can become a legitimate, elite,
- 13:45Speaker 1: high level starter or do you think Broncos are in
- 13:48Speaker 1: a spot where they will have to pay a mid
- 13:50Speaker 1: quarterback top money. Well, one thing is if he doesn't
- 13:53Speaker 1: get dramatically better, they're not gonna pay him, So he
- 13:56Speaker 1: has to take a big step. Josh Allen's in the
- 13:58Speaker 1: peak of his powers. He's the end. So Josh Allen
- 14:01Speaker 1: compared to bow Knicks is like the size of the
- 14:04Speaker 1: Grand Canyon right, there was a gap Jalen Brunston against
- 14:08Speaker 1: Victor wembin Yama, And obviously Victor wembin Yama is way
- 14:10Speaker 1: better than bow Knicks. So if Josh Allen in a
- 14:13Speaker 1: playoff game is going up against bow Knicks in a
- 14:16Speaker 1: playoff game in two thousand, you know, early twenty twenty six,
- 14:20Speaker 1: Josh Allen's got to win that game, and really, obviously
- 14:23Speaker 1: it was a winnable game. Bo Knicks to me's top
- 14:26Speaker 1: fifteen quarterback. He has made high level, top six to
- 14:32Speaker 1: seven quarterback level plays in big moments, which matters, right.
- 14:37Speaker 1: But you know, for a period, Derek Carr had more
- 14:39Speaker 1: comebacks than Aaron Rodgers. So some of that is because
- 14:43Speaker 1: your team's down a lot, and a lot of the
- 14:45Speaker 1: reason they're down is it's not like their defense always
- 14:47Speaker 1: getting tredded. He eats not playing well the three and outs.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Remember that game against the Raiders. Listen, He's a young quarterback,
- 14:54Speaker 1: tough transition in terms of like to a team with
- 14:57Speaker 1: expectations to an intense offensive coach. This is a big
- 15:02Speaker 1: year for him. One he's gotta say healthy and two
- 15:05Speaker 1: it's just gotta be more consistent. Did you spend any
- 15:09Speaker 1: time in Lompoke when you were at Cal Paul. This
- 15:11Speaker 1: is the last part of that question. Yeah, we ate
- 15:14Speaker 1: at They had a famous steakhouse. I remember going when
- 15:19Speaker 1: my friend's parents came down. God, I forget the name
- 15:22Speaker 1: of it. I'm pretty sure it's in Lompoke. It was.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Remember the steakhouse being incredible. I mean at the time,
- 15:30Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't have like much to go off of,
- 15:33Speaker 1: like what a good steak was, and what a good
- 15:35Speaker 1: steak is and when you're twenty years old, But it
- 15:38Speaker 1: was pretty good question for you. I'm from Louisiana, so
- 15:42Speaker 1: a big Saints fan. I've seen a few people saying
- 15:45Speaker 1: that the Saints are the surprise turnaround team this year.
- 15:49Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree. We got some attention at the end
- 15:52Speaker 1: of last year Shuck took over as quarterback. One are
- 15:54Speaker 1: you agreeing? They just signed their boy back, Cam Jordan.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of hype going
- 16:01Speaker 1: into the season, and rightfully so, I let's pull up
- 16:05Speaker 1: their Let's pull up the old Saints schedule here. Damn
- 16:11Speaker 1: tough little opener at the Lions at the Ravens. I mean,
- 16:15Speaker 1: if you win one of those, you're gonna be feeling great,
- 16:19Speaker 1: starts easing up a little bit. Raiders, Falcons, Vikings, Giants, Steelers, Browns, Panthers.
- 16:25Speaker 1: These have some tough road games at the Bears, at
- 16:28Speaker 1: the Bengals Green Bay, but they get them at home
- 16:33Speaker 1: at the Panthers divisional game at the Bucks, Cardinals, Falcons, Bucks.
- 16:38Speaker 1: To me, if they could win one of these four
- 16:42Speaker 1: road games Lions, Ravens, Bengals, Bears, assuming all four of
- 16:47Speaker 1: those teams are good, they could make some Hey, get
- 16:50Speaker 1: ten wins. God, those are tough non conference road games,
- 16:55Speaker 1: Jesus or non division road games like the Saints. I'm
- 17:01Speaker 1: a buyer like them even more now kind of peaking
- 17:03Speaker 1: at their schedule. I'm going to take them to win
- 17:06Speaker 1: the division. I'm going to bet on them in August.
- 17:11Speaker 1: You talk about the NFL growing outwardly internationally because they
- 17:14Speaker 1: cannot grow upward in the US, Well, do you think
- 17:18Speaker 1: they could grow downward with the soresby case, this could
- 17:21Speaker 1: become a prime opportunity for the NFL to approach the
- 17:24Speaker 1: Big ten in SEC and merge to create an amateur league.
- 17:28Speaker 1: They're already in bed with college football through the draft.
- 17:31Speaker 1: They're wanting to make the draft bigger. This could add
- 17:34Speaker 1: value to their current product within the US. Here's the problem.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Then they have to be financially involved and that obviously
- 17:44Speaker 1: you share in the profits, but you got to deal
- 17:46Speaker 1: with the expenses. You've got to deal with the labor.
- 17:49Speaker 1: You know the best part about running a company in
- 17:51Speaker 1: America is like you can hire from colleges. You have
- 17:56Speaker 1: nothing to do with the colleges. Not saying that the
- 17:59Speaker 1: college is necessarily impact some of these guys that are
- 18:01Speaker 1: going to hire in terms of like making them a
- 18:03Speaker 1: better future employee, but there is a breeding ground for
- 18:07Speaker 1: workers in America in all different lanes. Right, It's no
- 18:10Speaker 1: different in football. But it's not like Amazon has to
- 18:14Speaker 1: invest in UCLA, Texas and Ohio State. So I think
- 18:19Speaker 1: the NFL looks at like that's Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Let them deal with that because they're not going away.
- 18:26Speaker 1: They're making too much money, and I'd be stunned. The
- 18:32Speaker 1: NFL is also making too much money to risk doing
- 18:37Speaker 1: something like that. They've never had to do it for
- 18:39Speaker 1: fifty plus years or however long the draft's been going on,
- 18:42Speaker 1: but in the Super Bowl era, and the colleges do
- 18:45Speaker 1: a form and everyone benefits. The colleges benefit because you
- 18:50Speaker 1: could talk about players as draft prospect, the NFL benefits.
- 18:53Speaker 1: It's like a win win for everyone involved. Do you
- 18:56Speaker 1: think when it coordinators and assistance leave for inner division jobs,
- 19:00Speaker 1: there's either bad blood before or after. I keep thinking
- 19:05Speaker 1: thinking about Dan Campbell and Ben. Dan seems like one
- 19:08Speaker 1: of the easiest guys to work with or for. Clearly
- 19:11Speaker 1: their relationship will never be the same after he left
- 19:15Speaker 1: for Chicago. Should Dan take it personal or other coaches
- 19:19Speaker 1: in similar situations. It's just kind of the nature of
- 19:23Speaker 1: the industry therein right, I think for most of us.
- 19:28Speaker 1: If if I was went to partner up with someone
- 19:33Speaker 1: who was a direct competitor with Colin and our goal
- 19:36Speaker 1: was to take Colin down and the volume down, the animosity,
- 19:42Speaker 1: like it happens in most of your businesses all the time, right,
- 19:45Speaker 1: a competitor steals you, your goal is to steal market
- 19:48Speaker 1: share from them, and it can just get contentious, right
- 19:51Speaker 1: because we're ultimately trying to end you. In football, the
- 19:57Speaker 1: nature of the movement of like, this guy can never
- 20:00Speaker 1: be the head coach there, so when he gets head
- 20:02Speaker 1: coaching opportunities, is he supposed to take a shittier job
- 20:05Speaker 1: that's not in the division. I mean, it was a
- 20:07Speaker 1: pretty unique gig. It's the Chicago Bears. I think it
- 20:11Speaker 1: happens so frequently that if your relationship is strong enough,
- 20:18Speaker 1: completely unfazed. Now the guys have big egos, some people
- 20:21Speaker 1: say some things some people. Where I think it fractures
- 20:24Speaker 1: is when you go, hey, listen, I'll do everything to
- 20:27Speaker 1: support you getting a head coaching job. You're just not
- 20:29Speaker 1: taking my coaches like you're you know, these guys are
- 20:33Speaker 1: under contract and we're keeping them. And that's where I think,
- 20:36Speaker 1: because then it turns me versue. But think how often
- 20:40Speaker 1: it happens in the NFL. I mean, it happens all
- 20:44Speaker 1: the time. Think about Steve Spagnola. He was like Andy's guy,
- 20:50Speaker 1: and then he left the Eagles to go to the
- 20:52Speaker 1: Giants to be their defensive coordinator in the two thousands,
- 20:56Speaker 1: like the position coach is leaving to be court. Look
- 20:58Speaker 1: at Flury Shanahan's guy. He just went to Seattle to
- 21:02Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator. Same with Clint Kubiak. I think
- 21:05Speaker 1: you kind of become numb to it after a while.
- 21:08Speaker 1: I can't speak to those guys' personal relationships. Ben and Dan,
- 21:13Speaker 1: but I don't think they have animosity toward the job
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- 22:37Speaker 1: of Eric b Enemy and chad O'Shea toward the offense
- 22:40Speaker 1: in the upcoming season? Will they advocate for systematic or
- 22:43Speaker 1: schematic changes? Will be Enemy's been there forever? Right? Like
- 22:47Speaker 1: when I think of Eric Bnemy, you know, he worked
- 22:49Speaker 1: for Brad Childress and then he works for Andy Like
- 22:51Speaker 1: he's kind of you know, he when he became an
- 22:54Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, UCLA want to throw the ball a lot.
- 22:57Speaker 1: So he's got a lot of Andy in him. But
- 22:59Speaker 1: I think his personality, he knows a lot of their
- 23:02Speaker 1: core guys. I think chad O'Shea is going outside the
- 23:07Speaker 1: box a little bit for Andy. There's a guy that
- 23:09Speaker 1: came up in the in the Patriots system, you know.
- 23:12Speaker 1: I know he's bounced around a little sense, But I
- 23:17Speaker 1: think that organization is when it comes to offense, is
- 23:19Speaker 1: open minded to some stuff clearly, and they're gonna have
- 23:22Speaker 1: to pivot. Do you see the video of Rashid Rice
- 23:25Speaker 1: coming out of his thirty day jail sentence and there
- 23:27Speaker 1: were like two guys sitting there with camera phones and
- 23:29Speaker 1: chased them out. I saw a tweet that said this
- 23:32Speaker 1: reminds me of like Maury when the guy gets uh,
- 23:35Speaker 1: you know, a paternity test and finds out he's the
- 23:37Speaker 1: father and sprints away like it was a little weird,
- 23:40Speaker 1: like because what are we doing here? I can't imagine
- 23:44Speaker 1: being that guy right sitting there waiting for people to
- 23:49Speaker 1: come out of a jail cell with a camera. So
- 23:53Speaker 1: one thing I will say about the Rasini Varibel situation
- 23:55Speaker 1: is like there are people's jobs to just wait for
- 23:57Speaker 1: you at an airport. I fucking hate that airport. I
- 24:00Speaker 1: want to get out of there as soon as possible.
- 24:02Speaker 1: You just sit there and wait all day, like gy, Hey,
- 24:05Speaker 1: we all do different gigs. Who is the best football
- 24:09Speaker 1: player you've seen live? In high school, college, in the
- 24:11Speaker 1: NFL level? I would say best football player in high
- 24:17Speaker 1: school was probably Maurice Jones Drew. I watched him in
- 24:23Speaker 1: high school, like like on TV, we didn't play him
- 24:26Speaker 1: or anything. Would probably be him or Cliff Harris who
- 24:32Speaker 1: played at Oregon and then played a little bit in
- 24:34Speaker 1: the NFL. He couldn't put down the joint big weed
- 24:39Speaker 1: d I mean, guy couldn't fucking smoking and function, but
- 24:42Speaker 1: he in high school he was incredible. Sometimes, Like I
- 24:46Speaker 1: remember watching guys in high school when I was a
- 24:47Speaker 1: friends to say, like Eric Kendricks who went on to
- 24:49Speaker 1: have like a be a pro bowler, unreal player in college,
- 24:53Speaker 1: Like I think it was that good in high school. College.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Best player I've ever seen live is Kellen Moore. Kellen
- 25:03Speaker 1: Moore is like my Joe Montana. He was so good
- 25:08Speaker 1: in college. Can I just read you some Kellen Moore
- 25:12Speaker 1: college stats and this you know when we were when
- 25:16Speaker 1: I was at Fresno, it was the peak of their powers.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Kellen Moore in college threw one hundred and forty two
- 25:23Speaker 1: touchdowns and twenty eight interceptions. I'm pretty sure Boise States
- 25:31Speaker 1: record during his three years as the starter, so that
- 25:37Speaker 1: would have been eight nine. They went twelve and I
- 25:41Speaker 1: think he was fifty three and I think it was
- 25:46Speaker 1: like fifty and three or fifty three and three. He
- 25:49Speaker 1: never lost. He was incredible in the NFL. I mean,
- 25:52Speaker 1: I've seen Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Paid Manning,
- 25:57Speaker 1: I've seen all those guys live. I would say the
- 25:59Speaker 1: guys I saw play the best. I mean, I saw
- 26:02Speaker 1: JJ Watt in the peak of his power, So it
- 26:03Speaker 1: was like looking at the white Lawrence Taylor. I mean,
- 26:07Speaker 1: they were different type players, but I'm just saying like
- 26:09Speaker 1: he could not be stopped. I went to a game.
- 26:13Speaker 1: He had multiple sacks, he had a strip fumble which
- 26:16Speaker 1: he got from the quarterback, which he took, and he
- 26:18Speaker 1: scored a touchdown as a tight end. It was a
- 26:20Speaker 1: bad Raider team, but I just remember thinking it was
- 26:23Speaker 1: like a second or third year Jesus. I mean, I've
- 26:27Speaker 1: seen a bunch of the great Niners. You know, Bowman
- 26:30Speaker 1: Willis were pretty incredible. All the guys on Seattle, Russell,
- 26:39Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Cam Chancellor. I would just say pure one game,
- 26:43Speaker 1: I remember leaving thinking like, that's as good as it gets.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Would be JJ Watt it would have been like fourteen
- 26:48Speaker 1: I think pretty sure he had multiple sacks, he had
- 26:51Speaker 1: like seven tackles, four TFLs, and a touchdown. And his
- 26:55Speaker 1: touchdown was not just like a wide open touchdown. He
- 26:57Speaker 1: caught like a beautiful dime in the corner of the
- 26:59Speaker 1: end zone. And I remember talking to an assistant who
- 27:04Speaker 1: said that they had talked to Washington, because I'm pretty
- 27:07Speaker 1: sure the Texans opened up against Washington and their coach
- 27:11Speaker 1: is saying that was like his opening game against the Redskins.
- 27:15Speaker 1: At the time, I think one of the coaches had told,
- 27:19Speaker 1: you know, the other team's coach like that, that's the
- 27:22Speaker 1: best game we'd ever seen. If an offensive coordinator works
- 27:25Speaker 1: under a play calling head coach like Ben Johnson, is
- 27:28Speaker 1: he viewed as a less important person within the organization.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Put it another way, is Press Taylor unlikely to be
- 27:34Speaker 1: seen as the reason for any success of the Bears? Yeah?
- 27:37Speaker 1: I mean you just when you're the guy making the decisions,
- 27:41Speaker 1: you get the credit. So if you're in an organization,
- 27:44Speaker 1: if you're the offensive coordinator and you're not the play
- 27:47Speaker 1: caller one, you're making less money. So when you make
- 27:49Speaker 1: less money, you're viewed a little differently. When you're the
- 27:52Speaker 1: offensive or defensive coordinator and you're the guy making the
- 27:54Speaker 1: play calls on you're if you're an established guy, you're
- 27:58Speaker 1: compensated highly and like you do all the press like
- 28:01Speaker 1: it's just you're the decision maker, like that guy is.
- 28:06Speaker 1: He's like a glorified position coach. Maybe that's unfair. I
- 28:09Speaker 1: don't mean Press Taylor specifically, I just mean the offensive
- 28:12Speaker 1: coordinator that's not calling the place. And it's probably different
- 28:15Speaker 1: place to place. But I've talked to people that know
- 28:18Speaker 1: people that work with Sean McVeigh. They're like, bro, every route,
- 28:23Speaker 1: every blocking concept, nothing goes through the offensive play sheet
- 28:27Speaker 1: without him all over it. Like he's not only the
- 28:30Speaker 1: play caller, he's the creator. Kyle, same thing. So it's
- 28:35Speaker 1: like you can be their offensive It's a great launching
- 28:38Speaker 1: pad for you. Same thing with Press Taylor for Ben Johnson.
- 28:42Speaker 1: But you're basically just learning on the flight of this
- 28:44Speaker 1: guy who is now to me. When a guy like
- 28:48Speaker 1: Ben Johnson becomes a head coach, they their role doesn't change,
- 28:55Speaker 1: like their offensive coordinator role stays the same in the
- 28:57Speaker 1: sense of like their control of the offense how they
- 29:00Speaker 1: see it. Their role changes because they're the head coach
- 29:02Speaker 1: now and they got to deal with the entire team
- 29:05Speaker 1: and you know, kind of run a staff, so it's
- 29:07Speaker 1: more on your plate. But in terms of play calling,
- 29:10Speaker 1: I don't think anything changes. You might have to delegate
- 29:14Speaker 1: a little bit throughout the week when you got press
- 29:16Speaker 1: conferences and stuff. My wife often says, Babe, we need
- 29:21Speaker 1: to listen to anything else but sports talk, and now
- 29:26Speaker 1: some of your dad diaries have me Dine laughing. Anything
- 29:29Speaker 1: with sports talk actually doesn't comprehend football talk. And now
- 29:32Speaker 1: we are trying to get pregnant. I'll say this, Okay, Bud,
- 29:35Speaker 1: hold up, Wait, he talks life and shit too. I
- 29:38Speaker 1: love it for shits and giggles. Let's say the Niners
- 29:42Speaker 1: stay completely healthy this coming season. How dominant are they
- 29:45Speaker 1: in comparison to other teams. I think if they stay
- 29:49Speaker 1: completely healthy, which is a big if they're a lock
- 29:52Speaker 1: playoff team. If they are which when are they completely healthy?
- 29:56Speaker 1: But if they are healthy, they're a lock playoff team.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Now if the other teams are healthy, you know, I
- 30:02Speaker 1: think Seattle's a tough matchup for them. I mean, it's
- 30:05Speaker 1: just it just is. And the Rams on paper look excellent,
- 30:10Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're as good as those
- 30:12Speaker 1: two teams. But relative to the rest of the NFC, Like,
- 30:15Speaker 1: can they beat the Bears? Can they beat the Eagles?
- 30:18Speaker 1: Can they be the Cowboys? Can they beat the Packers?
- 30:21Speaker 1: You know, it's like their division, which in a weird way,
- 30:24Speaker 1: like those games are going to be probably a couple
- 30:27Speaker 1: of them are going to be close, but they can
- 30:29Speaker 1: handle everyone else. I don't really hear anyone talking about
- 30:32Speaker 1: how there was a year Lamar Jackson build up his weight.
- 30:35Speaker 1: He was thicker, bigger, and he said he didn't like
- 30:37Speaker 1: it because people were catching him. I'm wondering, you think
- 30:41Speaker 1: it might be something he should think about doing again. Yeah,
- 30:44Speaker 1: he won't be breaking those sixty yard runs, double juke
- 30:47Speaker 1: touchdowns anymore, but he certainly would be able to scramble
- 30:51Speaker 1: and move the chains. To my recollection, he still had
- 30:54Speaker 1: his same high marks on passing stats. I hadn't really
- 30:57Speaker 1: thought about that. I think the guy that we saw
- 31:01Speaker 1: early on in his career that was just like you said,
- 31:04Speaker 1: sixty yard touchdown, double three sixties in the open field.
- 31:08Speaker 1: It was like Michael Vick on steroids. It was incredible.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Like that guy's not coming back now. Whatever he is
- 31:15Speaker 1: now is still faster than basically everyone in the league.
- 31:18Speaker 1: So I think he's got to find a happy medium
- 31:21Speaker 1: of how to stay healthy, what the right body type
- 31:24Speaker 1: is for him to feel comfortable, what's good on his muscles,
- 31:27Speaker 1: that's really on, like the Ravens training staff, the physical therapist,
- 31:31Speaker 1: all those guys associated with the team to kind of
- 31:33Speaker 1: find that happy medium. I think the key to them
- 31:38Speaker 1: is like finding the perfect blend of offense for him,
- 31:42Speaker 1: whatever that may be. I'm fascinated to watch what their
- 31:45Speaker 1: offense looks like last year or I mean this upcoming year,
- 31:48Speaker 1: because it kind of molded over the years. Remember early
- 31:50Speaker 1: on it was like, you know, it's Greg Roman kind
- 31:54Speaker 1: of doing like the Kaepernick thing. And then he was
- 31:56Speaker 1: a much better passer than that, so it just got expanded.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Span it expanded, and he won MVPs with it. So
- 32:05Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see what they're gonna look like this year.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Question for the back ranked these quarterbacks based on their
- 32:12Speaker 1: likelihood of winning both the regular season MVP and the
- 32:14Speaker 1: Super Bowl this season. We're going Mount Rushmore dudes, Burrow, Mahomes,
- 32:19Speaker 1: Lamar Josh Well, I think it's very hard for guys
- 32:24Speaker 1: like Mahomes and Lamar Jackson when you've won multiple MVPs
- 32:27Speaker 1: to win another MVP, you have to be exceptional, right,
- 32:33Speaker 1: So Josh Allen just won the MVP, so for him
- 32:36Speaker 1: to win another MVP, he's got to be better than
- 32:39Speaker 1: last year. Now, last year they didn't win the division.
- 32:42Speaker 1: So if all of a sudden they're fifteen to two
- 32:44Speaker 1: dominating the league, and if they're fifteen to two, he's
- 32:46Speaker 1: gonna have a big season. He would have some momentum.
- 32:49Speaker 1: But again, it is kind of hard because the narratives
- 32:53Speaker 1: matter one thing. Burrow's already set the table. Best team
- 32:57Speaker 1: I've ever played on, a ton of momentum for them,
- 33:00Speaker 1: a lot of question marks in their division. McCarthy Rogers
- 33:03Speaker 1: forty two years old, new coaching staff in Baltimore. The
- 33:07Speaker 1: Browns suck well. Actually the roster is not terrible. They
- 33:10Speaker 1: just the quarterback situation. They're probably not gonna be that good,
- 33:12Speaker 1: but their team actually has some pieces, you know what
- 33:14Speaker 1: I mean. I would go Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
- 33:21Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I don't see how Patrick Mahomes will be
- 33:23Speaker 1: able to put up the stats needed, and their team's
- 33:26Speaker 1: just gonna be too young, So I would go Burrow,
- 33:30Speaker 1: Josh Lamar Mahomes. Last, good question. Once you've won a
- 33:37Speaker 1: couple MVPs and Super Bowls, like Mahomes, like, it's less
- 33:40Speaker 1: about the accolades, Like how do we just get to
- 33:42Speaker 1: double digit wins back in the playoffs? Like to me,
- 33:46Speaker 1: all the Chiefs for thinking about is how do we
- 33:47Speaker 1: get back in the playoffs? Good question though. Okay, we're
- 33:52Speaker 1: gonna end on this lifelong Chiefs fan, nothing but appreciation
- 33:56Speaker 1: for every moment we have with Mahomes. You know, there's
- 34:00Speaker 1: think about this. There's a question here, but we all
- 34:04Speaker 1: you know, if you're listening to this, typically at a
- 34:07Speaker 1: young age, it's usually where you're born, but sometimes like
- 34:10Speaker 1: you could be a Cowboy fan if you live in
- 34:12Speaker 1: la or you know, a New York Knicks fan because
- 34:14Speaker 1: your dad and you live in Seattle. But for most
- 34:16Speaker 1: of us, it's a regional thing and you're just kind
- 34:18Speaker 1: of a fan of where you're born or who who
- 34:20Speaker 1: your dad is a fan of her mom. A lot
- 34:24Speaker 1: of people go through life with just not great experiences.
- 34:27Speaker 1: You don't see that much winning maybe a year here
- 34:30Speaker 1: or there. You never get to experience just a unique
- 34:35Speaker 1: all time great player. Maybe the best player is like
- 34:40Speaker 1: some James Harden. You know. It's like, you know, every
- 34:43Speaker 1: once in a while, it's like you're just born in
- 34:45Speaker 1: the Bay Area in nineteen seventy and when you're ten
- 34:47Speaker 1: years old, Joe Montana shows up, or you've been rooting
- 34:51Speaker 1: for the Chiefs and then they get Andy Reid and
- 34:53Speaker 1: all of a sudden, five years later they got Patrick Mahomes.
- 34:56Speaker 1: It doesn't get much better than that man that run
- 34:58Speaker 1: you guys had. That's as good as it gets. I mean,
- 35:02Speaker 1: that's it. Doesn't get any better than that. We go
- 35:04Speaker 1: twenty more years and not see a team win three
- 35:06Speaker 1: and five years. We had our first child about the
- 35:10Speaker 1: same time you had Jack. Thinking about taking a fam
- 35:13Speaker 1: on a vacation. Any ideas or recommendations on vacationing with
- 35:17Speaker 1: a six or twelve month old, We're in the same spot, So, uh,
- 35:22Speaker 1: should we hit Caribbean all inclusive or check out someplace
- 35:25Speaker 1: in Phoenix? I cann't tell you know. I don't have
- 35:31Speaker 1: any recommend I don't know. We're leaving in Tahoe this
- 35:34Speaker 1: weekend with some of our friends that all have kids too,
- 35:38Speaker 1: so we'll see how it goes. We're gonna have once
- 35:41Speaker 1: we get there, a couple hour drive. We haven't really
- 35:45Speaker 1: done that much, you know, we've kind of been here.
- 35:48Speaker 1: I mean, she's we just I'll let you know. I mean,
- 35:52Speaker 1: I have no recommendations of how it works travel with
- 35:54Speaker 1: the kid. We have something else happening fourth of July,
- 35:58Speaker 1: so we're gonna We're gonna see how this goes. We
- 36:02Speaker 1: traveled once with him just to do some stuff that
- 36:05Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily like vacation related, and it was pretty seamless.
- 36:11Speaker 1: So we'll see how this one goes not looking forward
- 36:14Speaker 1: to it, Like traveling with children is pretty like stressful.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Just this, She's been getting ready for like two days,
- 36:25Speaker 1: just laying out all the clothes. So I don't know.
- 36:28Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I can't eat. We
- 36:31Speaker 1: got to go to a wedding in a couple of weeks.
- 36:34Speaker 1: It's like knowing that I'm coming home to him. He's
- 36:36Speaker 1: getting up like the old met and listen makes it
- 36:39Speaker 1: getting up the next day, it's like I have a
- 36:41Speaker 1: couple of cocktails, like that might be it, Like it
- 36:43Speaker 1: sounds miserable. I have drank dramatically less since we've had him,
- 36:51Speaker 1: because he's in the back of my head. And I'm
- 36:52Speaker 1: not even running point on these situations. But it's just
- 36:56Speaker 1: it's clearly a life changing deal. I mean, before you
- 37:00Speaker 1: had a kid, if you guys want to go on
- 37:01Speaker 1: to vacations, like where do you want to go? What
- 37:02Speaker 1: can we afford? What sounds cool? Now it's it's an ordeal.
- 37:06Speaker 1: But you're asking the wrong dude, My man, I know
- 37:11Speaker 1: nothing about what it's like vacationing with a young child,
- 37:16Speaker 1: and I'm not even technically about to find out because
- 37:18Speaker 1: we're gonna be with other kids, and it's not gonna
- 37:21Speaker 1: be as like just us somewhere, which we're doing in
- 37:25Speaker 1: like a month, which hopefully continues to chill out, which
- 37:30Speaker 1: he's had a solid week. I give Jack. If this
- 37:33Speaker 1: was like a football game, I would say the previous
- 37:36Speaker 1: couple weeks we were just getting her ask kicked. We
- 37:39Speaker 1: were like the Cleveland Browns of the New York Jets.
- 37:41Speaker 1: This week, I wouldn't exactly call him like Brady Belichick dynasty,
- 37:46Speaker 1: but he's been like a solid who would he be
- 37:50Speaker 1: equivalent of, like the Chargers, just not the prettiest, but
- 37:53Speaker 1: it's just worked. We've won some games. We're just moving
- 37:56Speaker 1: in the right direction. It feels like we're the Chargers
- 37:59Speaker 1: this week. We're looking to become like the Bills or
- 38:02Speaker 1: the Rams or something. But right now we're just pointing
- 38:05Speaker 1: in the right direction. We feel we've got a good
- 38:07Speaker 1: foundation and we just got to get it done in
- 38:09Speaker 1: the biggest moments, which is going to be on the
- 38:11Speaker 1: plane here in like forty eight hours. Audios, have good weekend, everybody,
- 38:17Speaker 1: and I will talk to everyone soon. So yep, the
- 38:23Speaker 1: volume